Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - No Spin News - Weekend Edition - September 07, 2024

Episode Date: September 7, 2024

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Welcome to the No Spin News Weekend Edition. Okay, new poll. Media Research Center conservative group. They commissioned the McLaughlin and Associates polling outfit to ask Democrats and Biden voters, independents, about certain things in his campaign. First question. Are you aware Kamala Harris supported the elimination of private health insurance? These are Biden voters. Aware 19%, unaware 81. Second question, are you aware?

Kamala Harris promoted a fund to bail out violent protesters during 2020 riots. Aware 22, unaware 78. Third question. Aware that Harris supported abolishing ICE. Aware 23, unaware 77. Harris named the most liberal U.S. Senator in 2019, are you aware? Aware 25, unaware, 75. And final two, Harris says she will not support criminal status for migrants who enter the U.S.

illegally. Are you aware of that? 26, aware, unaware 74. Harris supported reparations for slavery. Are you aware, 29, unaware, 71. So that's proof that Biden and Harris supporters don't know anything. They have no idea, no blank an idea, if you want to get stronger. Why? Because the media doesn't report it. And they watch left-wing media and read the New York Times and a Washington Post. So how would they know? They don't listen to Fox News or talk radio. These again are Biden voters.

Democrats and Independence side. They don't know. That's the power of the media. Join us now from Blabout, New York, north of Manhattan. John McLaughlin, who did that poll, and he is currently polling for President Trump. Were you surprised those numbers are so huge that people voting for Biden had no idea what Kamala Harris' record is? No. And it wasn't a surprise. Brempo's out. It was his idea, and he did it at the Media Research Center, and he published it. Because last year we'd done a study, and we found that 35% of the voters pay attention to Fox News, Newsmax, conservative talk radio, listen to your show, et cetera. And there's another 30% that are MSNBC, CNN, NPR, et cetera, and another 35% who don't care, who don't focus, and they have polar opposite views of the world of what.

what's going on with the issues. So when Brent did this, it was like he had a hunch that they just weren't aware of these positions because if you watched that Democrat infomercial called the National Convention, they would repeatedly attack Trump and mention Trump, but they never really said where they stood on the issues and mentioned, they'd hardly mention immigration. They hardly mentioned what was going on with Hamas and the hostages. et cetera. They mentioned it one night. But in economics, they don't talk about taxes or raising

people. No, and as you said, millions and millions of voters who don't care. They vote a motion. Now, Trafalgar, which I fear that's a pro-Trump polling. Would I be wrong in saying that, Trafalgar pro-Trump? What I found is when I look at their surveys this year, them and insider advantage, they've gotten more even. Last year, they might have been two years ago with some of the Senate races, they could have been more pro-Trump, pro-Republican. But I think when some of those Senate races didn't materialize, they... All right, so you don't think that they're leaning in any direction. So Trafalgar has Michigan, basically Trump winning by 4 percentage, 0.4 percentage.

That's a tie. They got Pennsylvania, Trump winning by two, one, one point. And Wisconsin, Trump winning by one point. So it's essentially the three are tied, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. Do you concur? I think we're a little better. But, you know, for me, the longer term view, having worked for Trump in 2016, worked for in 2020, this is a lot better position to be in.

cautious optimism, I listen to your introduction about what President Trump needs to do with the debate, totally concur. If he adheres to that advice and we can expose her on the issues and let her talk. Tell him that because it's not hard. I mean, you can picture, John, you know me for a long time. You put me up against Kamala Harris. What do you think is going to happen? Has she agreed to an interview yet? No, no, but I mean, in a debate, I don't even want to interview her because she's just going to spout things and I'd have to be disrespectful and I don't want to do that. But in a debate, I just ask her questions, question after question after question, you can't answer

any of them. Right. And that's why she's not doing press conferences. That's why she's not doing. But they're not going to ask her anyway, just like Dana Bash didn't follow up on anything. Okay. Now, you mentioned insider advantage and in the polling center. They have, this I find hard to believe, North Carolina,

Trump is only up by less than a point. Is that true in North Carolina? That's, no. That's why I said we're a little better. Okay. But it's all the margin of error. And in Georgia, they have Harris beating Trump in Georgia. Yeah, that's not true.

I don't know how that can be true. But it's a point of to, by the way, what's great about Georgia is what's really frustrating the Democrats, they changed the election law compared to 2020 when you had drop boxes. Yeah, they tightened it up. But Lincoln Riley, Lake and Riley, just that alone. Yeah. I mean, you know, this poor girl murdered by the undocumented immigrant and the evidence is overwhelming.

I'm not depriving them the due process. But I thought that was the end. But this is insider advantage. It's not your outfit. Nevada, they have Trump up by a point and a half. In Arizona, they have a dead heat. What do you say to that? I think we're a little better in all those states,

but again, it's like two, three points better. So we're in a close race, and it's better to be in our position than Camel Harris. What's interesting is we're speaking today. She's making plans to go to New Hampshire, Virginia, and Minnesota. I think they're worried about those states. beyond the seven battleground states that are getting the most

attention. When are you when are you guys going to do a state by state in the swings? Are you going to do a poll soon? The Trump campaign doesn't release their polls except on rare occasions so I hope we do a lot more polling a lot more often.

Yeah, it's better for your company. But you give them the polling they ask for it just not made public, correct? Right. And we're And we shoot straight with the president. If the election were held tomorrow, in your opinion, I mean, obviously you think your company has great credibility.

Who would win? Trump would win. But it's, again, it's 64 days. I tell you, the thing you got to watch is the early voting. Four of those seven states start mailing voting. North Carolina starts on September 6th, three days for now. And then you have Pennsylvania, where 40% of the voters will vote mail in. That starts on September 6th.

16th, and you're all, Wisconsin, September 19th, Michigan, September 26th, the Democrats are trying to rush the clock. And you've got David Plough, who was Obama's campaign manager, who worked for Zuckerberg in the 2020 election, spending his 400 million to register both elect counties in those states, and then basically, you know, ballot harvest. And they would bring them in, whether it was Georgia or Wisconsin, et cetera. Well, you got a new Republican hierarchy at the R&C, Lara Trump, who says that she is countering that by having Republicans try to gin up their base to vote by mail as well. Do you see that?

Yes, you see that plus also the filing legal cases, like in North Carolina. They just filed a case where it looks like over 200,000 voters weren't required to show driver's license or Social Security. as proof of citizenship. So we've got it now, they've let in, what, 15, 20 million illegal immigrants, and now they're trying to register them to vote in Texas. The Attorney General has groups, nonprofits under investigation for actively trying to recruit illegal immigrants to vote. So the RNC is definitely stepped up the game and they're fighting, but you can't take anything for granted because they push back. Yeah, historically, the mail-in votes have always always

always gone Democrat. It's because a lot of the voters who go for the liberal candidates are people who are disenfranchised and they don't participate. And so the ward captains, the Democratic ward captains, canvas apartment complexes and senior citizen home and they tell people how to fill out the votes and put it in the envelope for them. That's what's happening, right? Yep, exactly. And they'll go to nursing homes. And they'll have, They'll go everywhere. But I wonder if Republicans are doing that, too. I don't know.

Yes. And what's different is I think Republicans are more inclined to vote early in person rather than trust the mail. Yeah. Well, each state has its own as its own thing. All right, John, keep dispositive anything that comes across your desk you feel is interesting. I mean, my audience is just absolutely, you know, an information-based audience, and we want to get all the info we can get. Thanks again for helping us out. We appreciate it.

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Make sure you tune in. You can find us at Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast. You're listening to the No Spin News Weekend Edition. So what about Vice President Harris's tax plan? She wants to raise taxes in America by $5 trillion over 10 years. But she says that the country will make a lot of that back. I don't know. Nobody knows. She also says that if you earn less than $400,000, you're not going to be affected by these massive tax heights.

Okay, number one, she wants to raise a corporate tax to 28% from 21%. All right, it's a pretty big hike. Then she wants to raise taxes on wealthy wage earners to 44. 5% from 39%. Now, that's not including state and local. So here in New York, where I am, I would be paying about 60%, 60, 60, 60, to various governments in taxation. Well, I'm not going to do that. Okay. It's not worth it. Not worth it. And you'll see in a massive flight. I think it's bad now. people leaving New York, California, Illinois, Massachusetts, it'll be triple if that happens. Now, she can't raise those taxes unless the Democrats control the House and the Senate.

Keep that in mind. Okay. She wants to impose a minimum 25% tax on people who have net worse of more than 100 million. So say you're retired and you don't work, but you have money in the bank and investments that are worth more than $100 million. You have a house, you have a stock portfolio, you have whatever. So then you're going to pay a quarter in a wealth tax to the feds. That's unconstitutional. They can't seize your private property according to the Constitution. But this is what the woman wants to do.

So what are the unintended consequences? Well, I ask to get the best guy on the tax. And we don't want ideology here. We want facts. His name is Scott Hodge. He's the President Emeritus of the Tax Foundation. He's got a new book out. It's called Taxocracy.

What you don't know about taxes and how they rule your daily life. All right. He joins us now from Washington, D.C. We're pleased to have you, Mr. Hodge. So I've always believed and seen, because I run three corporations, small. But nonetheless, I have to pay all kinds of health costs and all that. When my taxation goes up, as Kamala Harris would impose, then I have to pass that cost along. So that's what happens, right?

Companies have to pay more in taxes. They pass it along to consumers. Is that what generally happens in a capitalistic society? a lot of effects come from raising taxes bill and when you raise taxes on corporations economists have actually found in addition to the costs that are passed along to consumers we see a lot of those costs passed along to workers in the form of lower wages and in fact some studies have found quite interestingly that the most harmed workers are what we call marginal workers like women low skilled workers and no skills younger workers, they see their wages reduced the most from those higher corporate taxes. I mean, we've all heard the adage when you tax something, you get less of it. And, you know, that's why politicians tax things like sin taxes or, you know, taxes on cigarettes or wine or beer because they want to control the consumption of those goods.

The same thing happens with income and investment and business. All right, but let's get specific. So you're saying that if companies have to pay more tax, they're going to lay off workers to bring their costs of doing business down, correct? Correct. Okay. So that's number one. Fewer jobs. Number two, and I believe that this rise of 21% in food prices, is a tax on the American home.

It's a tax. because it didn't have to happen. It was driven by misguided spending policies coming out of the Biden administration. Am I wrong? No, that's exactly right. I mean, when you put that much government money into the economy, you're going to get inflation.

And back to your original point about the ultimate costs of those tax increases, my colleagues here at the Tax Foundation have modeled the Biden-Harris tax increase plan that was put out earlier this year. We found that it would reduce the number of jobs, in the economy by over 800,000. So 800,000 Americans would lose their jobs

as a result of tax increases, and you'd see wages being reduced across the board. Sure, you take less or you don't... Yeah, or we'll find somebody who will. Right. Yeah. You take, and it's interesting because the converse is true. In California, they raised the minimum wage for fast food workers to $20,

and now the prices of the food went up went up for the consumers and the hours for the workers and McDonald's and others went down in case that they don't work in many hours. Now this may be an unfair question and if you don't want to answer it, I understand. Do you believe that Vice President Harris understands the economic implications of a vastly higher tax base in America? Not at all. I think she's driven by ideology and progressives understand or at least want to make the tax code much more progressive, meaning tilted more to the rich, but they also want to use the tax code to redistribute that income from the top to the bottom. And what a lot of people don't understand is that the United

States already has a very progressive tax system. In fact, we tax the rich much more than most European countries and we use the tax code to pass along to the poor much more than many European countries as well. She wants to make the tax code more redistributive, meaning take more of that income, pass it along to the low-income people through things like the child tax credit and other sort of welfare through the tax code, if you will. But shouldn't the government have a responsibility to try to get less affluence Americans to try to have policies that improve their circumstance. Any of these policies should be tied to work effort.

They shouldn't just be a handout through the tax code. And right now, we've turned the IRS into almost an extension of the welfare state. Because look at all the programs that it's managing, everything from child care to environmental issues, transportation, it's subsidizing cars, solar panels on your roof, all of these different things we're asking the IRS to do, and it's simply not capable of doing it. that. And she wants to use that IRS to do more of those kinds of things in delivering benefits to various constituencies and favored groups here in the United States. I think it's worse than that. I think she's a socialist. But I don't know whether she understands what a socialist is.

And I'm not being mean because the woman has never, ever given an interview on economics, ever. So she ties in with Bernie Sanders a few years ago with the Medicare for All Act, which would wipe out private medical insurance in America. Now, you couldn't wipe it out entirely. That's unconstitutional. But you could make it very hard for doctors to have a concierge service and charge more than the government tells them they can charge. You really terrorize those doctors. She co-signs that bill. That's a socialistic bill. Bernie Sanders admits it.

That's socialism. And I think Kamalares would have no problem with Washington, D.C., running the entire marketplace, the entire economy, dictating what prices you can have, how much money you can make, what material goods you can have before they come in and start taking stuff away from you. I think that she'd be fine with that. Am I wrong? She's already hinted that she's in favor of doing something about price gouging. So they would have government bureaucrats stepping in to determine what are legitimate profits and what are simply price gouging. Now, I mean, that's kind of like, you know, deciding, you know, what's pornography?

It's in the eyes of the beholder. These bureaucrats would decide for themselves what they consider to be price gouging and what are legitimate profits and they would try to control them. I got a minute we put a percentage. You can make this much money if you're Heinz, ketchup. That's what that's, but that's socialism. Hey, I'm Caitlin Becker, the host of the New York Postcast, and I've got exactly what you need to start your weekdays. Every morning, I'll bring you the stories that matter, plus the news people actually talk about, the juicy details in the worlds of politics, business, pop culture, and everything in between. It's what you want from the New York Post wrapped up in one snappy show.

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every week on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast. You don't want to miss an episode. Right, exactly. Right. And I think she's a socialist. I think that's what the progressive movement wants. They want to run the entire American economy out of Washington because they think that capitalism is evil, that it exploits minorities and women,

and they're going to wipe out the private marketplace. Now, then you go into the Constitution. A wealth tax to me, because private property is sacrosanct. Founding fathers said, Americans have a right to private property. You, the government, can't seize it by taxing unrealized gains on your house or on your stock portfolio, bond portfolio. That's basically taxing your stuff, all right?

Now, you can say, oh, they do a property tax, I do all that stuff. Well, that's a local situation. And the local people have the right to fund the schools and the roads and all that. But Washington telling me, I want 25% of whatever you have every year. year. I mean, that's just insane. And I think it'll get thrown out in federal court. Well, and not only that, we have examples from around the world to prove how unworkable this is. Norway increased their wealth tax two years ago, and they saw a flight and exodus of millionaires and billionaires who moved out of Norway to low tax places like Switzerland

in order to avoid those high taxes. Wealth goes to where it's wanted. And if you raise taxes on it, it's very, very mobile, and people will flee. Capital is very sensitive to high tax rates, and it will flee to find better low tax. And corporations, if it's 28%, they'll go back overseas as well, correct? Exactly. We've seen this show before. We know how these taxes work and how the incentives that they produce to drive companies abroad to find friendlier places to do business. All right. So, you know, you can make an extension that if Kamala Harris is elected and the House and Senate go Democrat, we're going to be in for a real tough recession or even a depression. Mr. Hodge, thanks for helping us out. The book again is taxocracy, which you don't know

about taxes and how they rule your daily life. This is the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. And joining us now for New York City is a guy. I think you will remember. member, or you know well from his internet operation, Mark Halpern. He's been around, and he knows politics as well as anybody in the country. He is the founder of wide world of news concierge coverage and a host of two-way. So what exactly is the wide world of news concierge coverage, Halpern? Bill, thanks for having me. I have two businesses, and they both involve political coverage. Concierge coverage is really for people who have enough money to afford a premium product. You can go on walking.com slash mark and read about it. It's a daily newsletter and it's a series

of conversations over Zoom featuring some of the top strategists and journalists and thinkers and politicians in America. And it gives you a pretty in-depth, sophisticated set of information. If you're in business and you need actionable information to make business judgments, it's there. And if you just want to know what's going on in a very sophisticated, nuanced way, that's there. Okay. Two-way is more. Go ahead. Two-way is what?

Two-way is more for everybody. You can go on my Twitter account. You can read about how to be part of two-way. Two-way is a series of conversations that involve people from all over the country, very similar. But it's more open. It's not just the most elite political. political figures and it's a much more affordable and often free product that anybody can be part of. And it brings together sophisticated political players in conversation with citizens

from around the country and live two-way video. All right. So based on both of those descriptions, I could not be possibly involved in your operation at all. Because I just don't, I can't read. You'd be a welcome. You'd be a welcome addition. Now, do you, you've been around for a while. I'm in work at ABC. Do you give your opinion in these things? Do you tell people what you believe and why you believe it, like I do? I give people my analysis. I'm a nonpartisan journalist. Okay. So it's not an ideological site. You just tell them what may happen. So then let's segue into. Well, it is, here, let me just say what's different about it, I think, is it's not for

moderate, centrists and independence only, although we have plenty of those. It's for people on the far left and the far right and the center left and center right who want to. to hear from the other side. So we bring all voices together on our own roof, and we don't we don't have shouting, we don't have attacks, we have peace, love, and understanding an attempt to give people an insight into what's going on in a part of America. They may not spend much time in their normal lives. All right, so based upon what you are hearing in your quote-unquote conversations, I hate that word, where does the election stand now? Is it as the polling demonstrates that it could

go either way or is it tilting one way or another and based upon what you have accumulated it could go either way and while there are a lot of variables including you know very uh mechanical things like early vote and get out the vote and who makes the best tv ads i think there's basically one variable if the country thinks about tamila harris when they start to vote the way Donald trump wants people think about her she'll lose if they think about her the way they think about her now she'll win all right So she's trying to run out the clock by saying anything that might be controversial, like I support reparations for slavery or anything like that. And the mainstream media is allowing that to happen.

You get a little bit of criticism on it, but not really a crescendo. Me personally? No, I mean, I'm just, in a general sense, I believe that the Harris strategy is to run out the clock and not say anything controversial at all, just to be whole. and values and all that. I think that that's what she's going to try to do. Yeah. And I think her biggest advantage there, well, two really. One is she's got very sophisticated people working for her now.

She hasn't always, she won the game of musical chairs because when she was thrust on to the top of the ticket, she just happened to have very sophisticated people. They know what the traffic will bear. They know just how often they have to put her out to kind of get the public and the press off her back. But the other thing is the very same people who spent years covering up Joe Biden's loss of mental acuity are the exact same organizations,

editors, anchors, reporters who are now in charge of trying to make Kamala Harris explain herself the American people. It's unlikely that they're going to be very aggressive about that. No, they won't. They're rooting for her to win because they despise Donald Trump. Now, the American voter, though, faced the same thing in 1980, whereas the machine, the propaganda machine in Democratic Party was trying to convince everybody Jimmy Carter was the greatest president. And all these problems with inflation and gas lines and no respect overseas, they were going to work out. And Reagan was just dunce from Hollywood who didn't know anything. But the folks overrode the media tilt toward Carter. But that was then, and now we're in cyber world,

correct? Well, yeah, we are in cyber world. And that gives Donald Trump. outlets. I mean, he's going on all these broish podcasts. Those didn't exist for Reagan, but also Donald Trump is no Ronald Reagan. He's got a lot of strengths. He, like Reagan, has a movement behind him. But I think Reagan had greater political skills than Trump does. And I think Trump's the third best presidential candidate of the modern era, but he's still third, not first, or second. And so it makes it unpredictable. If this were, even George W. Bush running against Kamala Harris. I think they'd have the discipline to define her on such negative terms regarding her recent policy positions that she would lose. It's just not clear to me and to

and to my sources, including people who work for Donald Trump, that he will have the discipline to do this. Well, I just laid out a very simple way for him to do it on next Tuesday. It's an infallible way. You couldn't stop him for doing that. And he could just load it up with just a few facts. You don't want to overwhelm anybody. You want to say, look, I mean, how does it go from one four to nine? And how do you accept and promote an open border when the catastrophe is right before everybody's eyes? I mean, it doesn't get any simpler than that. But Donald Trump, to me, is kind of isolated.

You know, he's not, he doesn't take a lot of advice from outsiders. I don't see it. I think there's a couple of people that have his attention within his campaign. Do you know anything about that? Well, I think it's more than a couple. I think there's probably about 12 people who listens to, three of whom he talks to on the patio at Maralago when he's in South Florida, some of whom work for his campaign, some of whom are outside advisors. But he tends to listen to all of them. And when they disagree, he tends to kind of mull it over and not necessarily go with the best advice. He also has huge confidence, as you know, in his own judgment. He is getting the exact advice you just laid it out. And there's some chance he'll do it. But I think there's a greater chance he won't do it the way you would do it or the way some of his advisors would ask him to do. Why not? Because that's almost an infallible way to put her on the defensive where she can't get out because she can't answer those questions. She simply

can't. Yeah, I understand exactly what you're saying. You know, Hillary Clinton has long said that when her husband dies, Bill Clinton dies, they should study his brain. Scientists should study his brain. I'd say the same about Donald Trump. He's not a stupid man at all. His liberty is at stake here because if he doesn't win, there's a much better chance he goes to prison. He's been given the exact advice that you've laid out and deemed infallible. And yet just something about his brain does not necessarily allow him to execute this. Well, it's emotion. He gets emotional up there. He's got to go in and no matter what they throw out him or say to him, whether it's unfair, whether it's defamatory, he's going to knock that out and concentrate on Kamala Harris, my opponent,

cannot explain her positions and will not explain them. That's it. Because the American people, it's small-ball stuff. That's not what it's how much money we're spending, what her vision is of a huge central government that controls every part of Americans' lives. That's what she wants. and Trump is a libertarian capitalist. But anyway, final question for you, do you believe that the American electorate, as it stands now, with record-breaking amounts of people going to the polls, is not smart enough

to elect somebody who's not going to hurt them? I'm starting to lose confidence in the folks a little bit. Well, this takes me back to my platform two-way, where you hear the point of view you just expressed from Trump supporters, but you also hear folks say, I can't vote for someone who denies he lost the election. I can't vote for someone who set down and stood by on January 6th. I can't vote for someone who lies the way they say Trump lies or who's mean the way they say Trump's mean. This is why this is a tough election. If you looked at the charts, like if they were patients of Harris and of Trump separately, you would say neither of them could possibly win the election. But the reason why they're tied is they both have the possibility of beaten the other guy,

or in this case, the other gal, because they have deep vulnerabilities. All right, Mark. Appreciate it very much. The wide world of news, contrary coverage and two-way. Thanks for helping us out today. Thank you for listening to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. To watch the full episodes of the NoSpin News, visit Bill O'Reilly.com and sign up to become a premium or concierge member. That's Bill O'Reilly.com. Sign up and start watching today.