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So at this point, the Trump administration has lost some momentum. However, next week,
interest rates will probably be cut. That could provide a storm surge for Trump. I don't know
if it will. Nobody can predict these things. The tariffs, a little bit further out.
could go either way. And that's a memo.
Joining us now is an economist who's, you know, he's on it.
It's a pro-Trump guy, Steve Moore.
He's a co-founder of Unleashed Prosperity.
I get his stuff every day, and it's worth reading, that's for sure.
In my analysis, am I making any mistakes, Mr. Moore?
Hi, Bill. Great to be with you. Thanks so much for having me on.
Great admirer of yours.
I think he got most of the story right as a Trump guy.
If I were a Trump political guy, I advise him a little bit on economics.
I would be worried about those numbers.
Now, remember, one thing that skews these numbers is that the country, as you've reported
and everyone knows, is so polarized today that, you know, Trump could start world peace.
He could find a cure for cancer.
He could, you know, create 10 million jobs.
And still, about half the country would still say they oppose him.
Just as under Biden, you know, half of the country.
was opposed to everything he was doing. So that's why I take a little bit of these polls
with the grain of salt. But it is worrisome. You're right. And I think you've diagnosed
the problem well that the biggest thing that people are concerned about, and I have a one-person
sample, and that's my wife, who says, every time I come home, you've got to do something
about grocery prices. And people are angry about it. And they went way up under Biden,
and they've stayed high under Trump. So that is, uh, is something.
something people are very worried about because they go to the store, you know, two or three or
four times a week. Now, I would say that one thing is going to provide some big relief is what
you mentioned at the end, which is energy, energy prices. Gas prices are coming down. And many
areas of the country were below $3 a gallon when they were as high as $5 a gallon a few years ago.
So that's something that people pay attention to as well. And that is a result of Trump's drill,
baby drill policies. You increase the supply of something, the price goes down.
Okay. Is there anything that any president can do about lowering food prices? Or is it just
the marketplace that has to do that? Yeah, that's a good question. I think it's the marketplace.
One of the things that's really curious, Bill, and I don't have an answer to this, but I'll just
raise it as an issue. If you talk to farmers lately, they don't feel like they're doing
very well the farmers they're complaining they always complain what's that they always complain
yeah i've never i've never ever and i love the farmers you know but they always complain now
and so you have prices at the grocery store are going up and yet farmers are saying they're not
doing any better so where's the money going the transportation companies and the food companies
Food companies margin of profit, the big food companies, it's up.
They're not hurting.
That's where the money's going.
But I don't see, you know, Nixon, as you know, being an economic scholar, tried wage price controls.
Disaster.
Didn't work.
Can't do it.
So when Donald Trump says, I'm going to bring down food prices, he's raising expectations to a level that he can't meet.
Am I wrong?
I don't think he should have said that.
What he should have said is I'm going to stabilize food prices, and to a large extent,
he has done that.
I mean, look, the overall inflation rate in the economy, which had reached as high as 9% under Joe Biden,
is now running at, you know, 2.6, 2.7%.
I'd like to see that down below 2.5%.
I'd like to see it closer to 2%.
But it's, you know, though, it's in a range that you can live with.
Now, one thing to think about if people are concerned about,
high prices, then is this the right time to be cutting interest rates? Because putting interest rates
puts more money in the economy. I'm a little nervous about that. When Trump says, let's cut interest
rates by 200 basis points, be careful of what you wish for, Mr. President. You flood the economy
with that much money. You know, what is inflation? We learned this from Milton Friedman.
Well, he's hoping. Too many dollars chasing too few goods. So he's hoping that may not be a great
idea. But here's what he's hoping for. He's hoping that the interest rate cut will stimulate
job creation and get the job market moving again so that people would be earning more money.
That's what the tariff thing's all about. He wants the American people to earn more money
because that's what happened in his first term. So that's why he's doing it. I don't oppose that.
But here's the last question for you. This issue is everything for Donald Trump. Far more
than Ukraine and Gaza, and even China. China is unbelievably serious.
But this issue is coming to a head in the midterm elections.
It's 14 months.
And if the White House is not able to present a vastly improving economic situation,
they risk losing Congress, one or both houses.
That's the urgency.
Well, I agree with what you just said.
It is the economy, stupid.
And look, I'm very bullish.
You're talking to one of the most bullish guys out there.
I like a lot what Trump is doing.
Now, I'm not a big fan of the terrorists, but I like these trade deals.
I think he was going to get a better deal with some of these countries.
He's already gotten commitments of hundreds of billions of dollars.
He says trillions, but I'm going to say hundreds of billions of dollars of new investment
in the United States.
That will create a lot of jobs.
We have completely secured the border.
We've got, you know, down 94% in terms of illegal immigration.
As I mentioned, low gas prices or records to high stock market.
And people are feeling, you know, just better about stuff.
So I think good times are here to come.
All right, Steve.
You know, for everybody, I hope you're right.
It's not a political play.
I want all Americans to have better lives.
And you need money to do that.
There's no doubt about it.
You're listening to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition.
Now, there's a reporter in Chicago, an independent guy, his name William Kelly.
He's a freelance journalist, and he knows the city as well as anybody.
You know, he used to be a reporter named Mike Royko in Chicago, and he knew everything,
and Royco's deceased now.
Kelly pretty much knows as much as Royko.
And Kelly is, he's like me, he's confrontational.
I just want to play you a little tape of him.
him going up against a previous mayor, Lori Lightfoot, who was as incompetent as it gets.
Roll it.
Paring last night's 30-plus shootings to last year when we had an out-of-control race riot
in which almost every member of the city of Chicago was, in fact, a victim, seems to be
playing with those numbers just a little bit.
Last night, I think you were on Chicago tonight.
you said that 99.9% of the criticism of you is because you're a black woman. Do you honestly
believe that? All right, just for asking that question, Mr. Kelly lost his press credentials,
took him years to get them back. He joins us now from the Winnie City. You can find him on X
at William J. Kelly. All right, so what I want to do here with you is most people don't live
in Chicago. They've never even visited Chicago. It's just a
astounding the resistance that is in play against adding a protective measure that would help poor
African Americans under siege by drug gangs.
How did that happen?
God bless you, brother.
First of all, according to the British, two Irishmen talking to each other's grounds for,
it's a hangable offense.
So just so you know, but, you know, it is really hypocrisy at the highest degree.
The elected officials in Illinois from Pritzker, who has presidential ambition, as I'm sure you know, and Mayor Johnson,
they welcomed the National Guard to protect the mega donors at the DNC in Chicago, the Democrat National Convention, as you know.
But they, they, for whatever reason, think that it would be a threat to democracy for the National Guard to defend defenseless women and children who are being attacked on a regular basis.
President Pritzker, excuse me, I'm getting ahead of myself.
But, you know, Governor Pritzker's signature legislation is something called the Safety Act that allows violent repeat offenders.
back out on the street with no bail, cashless bail.
What is his rationale for pushing that?
Why does he want that?
What is his explanation?
I want violent criminals back on the street.
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Well, he's not a dumb man, so there must be, he must think that he's a billionaire businessman. He believes that he won't be the next president of the United States of America.
Women are walking, this is happening on almost a daily basis now. Women are walking down the street and getting punched in the face by violent repeat offenders, many of whom are illegal aliens. They're not in this country legally.
Arena Zarutka is, you know, this has happened in Chicago already.
Okay, but we all know that, William, we all know the atrocities.
But again, what is Pritzker put forth as a rationale, a justification for his soft-on-crime
policy?
Does he explain it ever?
Well, I seem to be the only reporter.
I thank God I got my media credential back after Lightfoot.
revoked it. And I go to the press conferences and I ask the questions. I just recently asked him a
question about an illegal alien named Jose Luis Mendoza Gonzalez, if you can believe it. I don't
know if that's, you know, that's the name he goes by, who was arrested for concealing and
I hate to say it, abusing the body of an Illinois mother of two. But he was released. Okay? He was
released, if you can believe it, under Pritzker's Safety Act. So what is the rationale?
I don't...
Pritzker doesn't answer that question? He dodges the question? He won't answer my questions.
I'll keep asking, though, as you...
All right. I mean, look, I know what it is. Pritzker panders to a very liberal audience
that believes that the United States is a bad country, a racist country, and forces people
to commit crimes. That's pretty much what it is. Now, I believe if Pritzker was running for
re-election tomorrow in Illinois and Johnson in Chicago, they would both win. Again, despite all this
violence and terror, despite the opposition to the National Guard, they would win. What does that
tell the nation about the voters of Illinois and Chicago? Well, it might tell them something
about the ineffective Illinois Republican Party. But there, thank God, we do have a president
who wants to send the National Guard who has sent Homeland Security. And I can just say it
right now on this platform that if President Trump really wanted to completely upend the
incompetent and corrupt system in Illinois, all he would have to do is direct his DOJ
to do essentially an Operation Grey Lord 2.0.
Grey Lord was Ronald Reagan's, I think it was the FBI, DOJ,
investigation into the corrupt practices
in the Cook County Circuit Court.
But it's always been that way in Chicago,
you know, back to Mayor Daly.
All right, William, I got to let you go
because we got a million breaking news, things going on.
But I want you to, and we'd like to get this on tape,
the next time you talk to Pritzker or Johnson, say,
and you can say, look, I'm asking this for Bill O'Reilly,
which will, you know, of course, still start to shape.
What is the rationale?
Why don't you want more protection
for the poor African-Americans that are being murdered?
That's all.
Keep you really short and pithy.
And if you get that sound about, I'll play it.
We appreciate your time tonight.
Thank you.
This is the NoSpin News.
Weekend Edition.
Joining us now from Columbia, South Carolina, capital of the state, is Patrick Brown.
He is a fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center.
That's a conservative group, think tank based in D.C.
Why do you think younger Americans in particular are souring on capitalism, which has been
proven over and over and over again to be the way to lift yourself from poverty, from working,
class status into affluence. What has changed? Well, capitalism definitely has a PR problem.
There's no doubt about it. When you look at the polling, the young people today, they do have that
hesitancy. They hear capitalism and they think not the Bill O'Reilly of the 1970s scrapping his way
to become, you know, who he became, but of a big healthcare CEO denying coverage of somebody who
they saw on social media or trying to get on the ladder themselves and feeling like it's just impossible
to start a family and buy a house.
I think those are some of the concerns that people have.
And so when you ask them, you like capitalism,
they're comparing it in their head to some sort of ideal other system.
They're not thinking of the Soviet Union or even the high tax rates that,
you know, some like, you know, presumptive mayor of New York, perhaps,
Domani would propose.
They're thinking about, well, I would love to have capitalism that works a little bit better
for me in my circumstance in life.
But isn't that stupidity?
So it takes a while to amass assets.
It takes years to do it.
You know, when I first sorted out, I ran in an apartment.
I didn't have enough money to buy a house.
Couldn't put a down payment on a house.
I had to buy a used car.
Okay, I mean, but I accepted it.
That's how you start.
And then I put off a family because I knew I couldn't afford a family
and then try to, you know, stare at a career.
So isn't it stupidity or nighet?
or something now?
Are these people that dumb?
They don't understand
that it takes time
to build affluence?
I think Niveitae might be a good word for it.
I think you look at the rising age
of first time people get married
is now in their 30s.
First time having a kid,
it's rosen tremendously
since the early 70s, late 70s.
People are delaying these milestones
in life much later than they used to.
Part of that's because that sense
that it's just harder to get on
the treadmill maybe than it used to be.
Part of it is because we're a richer country now, right?
And people are on their phones or watching Netflix and they see,
wow, that's a beautiful house.
That's my ideal of what a house needs to look like for me to be able to buy it.
Well, that's not affordable for, you know, somebody in their 20s,
but the hedonic treadmill keeps pushing us up.
No, whoa, wait, wait, wait, wait, Patrick, wait a minute.
Remember that show Lifestyles that are rich and famous with dopey Robin Leach?
Remember that?
Remember that show?
Okay.
She's the same day, I saw that show.
Oh, hello, I'm out here.
I mean, yeah, I'm not an idiot.
I mean, I'm 27.
I know I can't afford it, but maybe when I'm 40, I can.
The unrealistic expectations, not only younger Americans, but a lot across the board,
that they think that everything's going to work out.
Yeah, bad health companies, bad insurance companies, all day long.
But you fight it.
That's why I opened up the concierge membership to Bill O'Reilly.com.
So when you get hosed, I'll help you fight it.
But you can win most of those fights.
But if you go to Canada, socialize medicine, socialize this, socialize that,
you want a knee transplant, you can't get one.
And, well, we'll give you one six years from now.
You go over to Britain and try to get your teeth fixed.
In Great Britain, good luck to you.
They might offer you assisted suicide instead, but there's definitely a sense where people are
not thinking about the real life alternatives, right?
Okay.
But why aren't they?
They have to pay for it, for sure.
It's a lot higher tax rates.
The government gets way more involved in people's lives than I think even the most diehard
supporters of Bernie Sanders would ever want.
And so there is some resetting of expectations that I would agree with you that would be helpful.
But also, look, we spend $7 on.
seniors for every one that we do on kids and families from the federal level. It's fair to say,
hey, look, let's think about the ways that we've stacked the deck in favor of long-term homeowners
instead of people getting out, getting just started in life. Let's build more housing,
make the cost of living more affordable. I think those are some of the political things we can do
to kind of tamp down some of this result. All right, but that's local and state. Okay, capitalism
is a global economic system. I don't object to anybody in any state or any
county, putting up housing that's affordable. I think it's a good thing, okay? But capitalism itself
requires an understanding. And I think the public school system, this is the key to it,
doesn't teach that. They don't know these kids. They come out with all of this unrealistic
expectation that I'm going to have this, I'm going to have that. Why does somebody have it?
I don't have it. That kind of a thing. You got to work hard for it. That's why I'm
America is a great country. It's built on the backs of the working class that wanted to move up
and was willing to make the sacrifice. These kids just wanted handed to them. They're spoiled.
And this is what they're taught in school. You deserve this. You don't have it because society's evil. The corrupt billionaires. That kind of garbage. They're being lied to. But these Americans who want socialism,
and reject capitalism.
They want to believe this stuff.
It's not based on any reality.
There's definitely an element to that.
And there was a law passed in Ohio,
I think last year or the year before,
that actually required high school students
to learn the fundamentals of just basic economics,
supply, demand, why these things work the way they do.
I think it's a great idea.
It would also help businesses kind of step back
from trying to be social justice warriors
like we saw during the COVID era
where everybody had the flags and the rainbows
and the, you know, Black Lives Matter,
stuff. I think that also kind of poisons the well. What are companies actually for? Are they for delivering
services and making life more affordable? Or are they trying to play cultural influencer? That's probably
also some part of the aspect as well. Yeah, and there are good and bad corporations. All right,
I've worked for both. Corporations are rotten, awful, terrible, greedy, and I've also operated
in a benign atmosphere. Hey, Patrick, we really appreciate time. Thanks for helping us out.
You're listening to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition.
Charlie Kirk headed an organization that targeted younger people for robust debate.
Mr. Kirk was a traditional conservative, said some controversial things.
So what?
I say controversial things every hour on the hour.
That's his constitutional right.
I do believe he was murdered because he did say things that some loon mentally ill.
person didn't like. That's my belief. If I'm wrong, I will tell you. But I think that's
what's going to be borne out. Interestingly enough, one of our guests recently is a man named
Dr. Owen Anderson. He teaches at Arizona State University. He was the advisor.
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To Charlie Kirk's organization on ASU campus.
And he knew Mr. Kirk and he joins us now from the college.
from Phoenix.
All right, so your role for Turning Point USA was Watt at Arizona State.
Yeah, so every student club needs a student, a faculty advisor.
So I serve that role for TPSA, and I'm one of very few professors who would do it.
The students had a hard time finding a faculty advisor, which is rare, but it shows you the climate at ASU.
I think really is a window into the spiritual condition of our universities.
All right.
Now, you knew Mr. Kirk.
You had dialogue with him?
Yeah, we'd met at several of the events that he holds and just a great guy.
I mean, my heart's been breaking, so sorrowful for his wife and children.
And just as you said, classical conservative, he loved to debate.
And what I've been thinking of him as is he's the American Socrates.
He would go to our universities, and he would debate anybody.
He would answer and ask questions, and the students loved it.
I mean, even if they thought they disagreed with him, they still flock to his events, and his events were packed.
And that's probably because the students that loved to debate weren't getting that in a classroom.
They're not allowed to question the ideologies that reign in our state universities, but Charlie Kirk gave them the opportunity to have those kinds of debates.
Now, as a faculty advisor for Turning Point and the fact that you know, Mr. Kirk, or you knew him, the reaction from your peers, the other teachers at ASU was what?
Well, ASU and faculty have been pretty quiet as of yesterday, but the students made a call with TPSA and with me to cancel the event last night.
They have a regular meeting every week out of safety concerns.
And for me, this really raises a much larger problem because the hate that's been aimed by faculty
members at ASU toward Kirk specifically is monstrous.
Can you give me an example of that?
Can you give me some specifics on that?
Yeah.
So in 2023, Charlie Kirk was going to host an event with Dennis Prager at ASU's Honors College.
And the Honors College professors, I think it was 37 out of 41.
So not every single one, but the vast majority wrote a letter to their dean protesting Charlie Kirk speaking at the college.
And they called him a bigoted white nationalist who spreads hate and attacks people.
From the letter, you get the impression that he goes to campuses to wrestle with people because if he goes there and has a rational discussion, they consider that attacking.
And so the event was no longer allowed to be held at that college.
Who made that decision?
Who made the decision to cancel the event at the college?
I believe it was the dean of the honors college.
All right.
So he folded to this faculty letter.
Did the people who wrote sign the letter, did they give you an example of Charlie Kirk's quote-unquote hate?
Yeah, they had a number of, and this is on the internet.
So it's available as public information.
but they gave another number of examples of his hate,
and all of them came from far-left-wing media sources like media matters.
Right.
So they just listed.
And these are research professors who say they treat students,
you've got to do good research.
And their example of research is media matters.
The prevailing wisdom today at ASU is on a scale of 1 to 10,
how progressive is the faculty at Arizona?
State University, 10 being off-the-chart progressive?
Off-the-chart progressive.
We had a required employee training to teach us about the problems of whiteness, and we have classes
on anti-whiteness.
And they'll say, well, that's just a technical term in the scholarly literature, but that's
not what it communicates.
Well, you shouldn't have it anyway.
Skin colors should not be an academic subject.
That's ridiculous.
Yeah. All right. So then the final question is, you got a guy like Charlie Kirk. He's very successful. He's mobilizing traditional and conservative students, younger people. He's obviously a Trump supporter. He helps Donald Trump get elected for the second term. He then becomes a target. Do you believe that he was targeted for that activism? Or was it just some rhetoric? That's something he said.
said. Well, the examples I have from faculty are targeting him for that rhetoric. They say,
if you give an argument to suggest that John Money's sexual philosophy is false, then you're
attacking students. They use that language. And if you're a student and you're hearing your professors
tell you that a person's coming to campus to attack you, that's very vitriolic language. That puts a lot
of fear into the students. But it's not what he did. We all know what he did because his videos are all over
social media.
Look, you don't have to agree with Charlie Kirk to know that whoever killed them is an
evil SOB that's undermining our Constitution.
And I mean, that's it.
There's no two sides to the story.
But I don't think, and you correct me if I'm wrong, that even after this terrible occurrence,
that any of the radical progressives who are teaching at Arizona State University will change
their opinion at all?
I don't think they will.
No, we've seen that with the executive orders in the spring against teaching DEI.
They simply rename those same ideas and keep doing it.
So no one's minds are changed.
If anything, they'll just pivot to saying this is because of guns
and try to keep ideology and then hateful language out of it.
All right, doctor, we appreciate it very much. Thank you.
This is the NoSpin News Weekend Edition.
Now, after Charlie Kirk was shot,
One hour, just one hour, MSNBC loaded up a show anchored by Katie Turr, T-U-R, another radical leftist,
okay, with all kinds of anti-conservative and traditional people.
One of them is named Matthew Dowd, one hour after Kurt was shot.
Here's what he said.
He's been one of the most devices.
especially divisive younger figures in this who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech
or sort of aimed at certain groups. And I always go back to hateful thoughts lead to hateful words,
which then lead to hateful actions. See, blaming Kirk for his own assassination. So Dow was fired.
Comcast had to fire him. Had to.
But is anybody surprised?
You, anybody?
Answers no.
There are far-right cranks, too.
I have to mention that.
Oklahoma City bombing.
Okay?
But they're heavily outnumbered in the year 2025
by progressive hate, in my humble opinion.
Joining us now is Heather McDonald.
You know she is. She's at the Manhattan Institute. She joins us from Irvine, California.
You've written a lot extensively about this, and that's why I want to get you on.
You're a conservative, and you're up front with everybody. You don't like the progressive movement.
I never really thought the view was a threat.
MSNBC, a little bit more heightened there, but it didn't make me that queasy.
But maybe I was wrong in the wake of what happened to Charlie Kirk.
How do you see it?
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Well, we've learned that even Utah Valley University is not immune from the cancer of anti-Westernism,
the cancer of student ignorance of student narcissism, before Kirk was going to speak.
speak, there were nearly 7,000 signatories to a petition articulating just the philosophy
of Matthew Dowd, that somehow speech equals violence.
Where was that petition launched?
Who did that?
Well, I assume it was a Utah Valley University, you know, the usual online petitions.
All right.
So at the school, 7,000 people, nobody knows.
who they are, signed a petition that Mr. Kirk shouldn't speak there because he's a
hater. Is that that's what happened?
Right. And so this ideology that Dowd is talking about is coming out of campuses. It's the
completely specious connection between speech that disagrees with the elite consensus
about race, about white supremacy, about the optional.
nature of gender, about the unqualified rights of foreigners to enter the United States without any
objection from citizens living here, that that equals hate speech and that somehow preposterously
students are put at risk from words that they don't like. And that view that this is hate and
hate equals violence then switches to its opposite, which is that violence is that violence is just
justified against violence. So the universities, you know, I'm grateful that Trump is going after
them, but it can't happen soon enough because they are the source of a complete rejection
of what has been the founding ideals, ones that we didn't always live up to. There's been a lot
of violations of free speech in American history and British history, but we got pretty
close to the ideal before the student narcissism took over?
Well, this is a Marxist play, as you know, Heather, in Russia when they deposed a czar.
And I had that in confronting evil, what Stalin did.
It was like, if you oppose communism, you oppose the people.
You're hating the people.
Okay?
And so we can execute you.
We can kill you because you're hating the people.
And that's been in play since 1917.
All right, I mean, so all this is is just gussied up for the American university system right now.
Yesterday they released a list of the worst colleges for freedom of speech.
Harvard isn't on it.
It won the last two years.
But, you know, because Trump has really taken them to the woodshed to use a cliche,
Harvard stopped.
But Boston College, a Jesuit-run school, I think it's number five.
You know, you can't say anything that they don't like.
And it's a progressive school.
And so if you say anything against progressives, then you're committing a hate crime.
And that's the bowl that Charlie Kirk was put into.
Absolutely.
Right.
He disagreed with the progressive.
approach to politics in life. He spread that word. I thought he did it in a responsible way,
although some of the stuff that he said was pretty volatile, but some of the stuff I say is
pretty volatile. Okay? So he was killed because of he's a martyr. And I don't know if there's
any true remorse. I'm watching a view today. I go, I don't know about this. So I don't know
if this ever going to get any better? Do you think it will improve now that this atrocity has been
exposed? No, I don't think so. And every side is going to be saying if their guy, you know,
if somebody from allegedly their side commits some atrocious act, they will always say,
and the right will do this too, this is an individual act, it's not a product of ideology. We
should be allowed to make our arguments. We're never literally advocating violence. And I'm sure
the left feels the same way. We're not responsible for this guy. And, you know, it's easy to
mound the bromides about we got to tone things down and remember the things that unite Americans.
I'm thinking, well, what are those at this point? Like, we don't even agree that there's such
things as males and females or that, you know, children that have no risk of dying from COVID
should not be put in masks and prevented from interacting with their peers.
If we can't agree on that, I don't know what the heck we do.
Well, I agree with you.
We're at a divisive state that rivals a civil war.
There's no doubt about it.
All right, Heather, we really appreciate your point of view, as always.
I do believe that things are going to improve a little now because people are starting to lock in.
And, you know, hopefully you'll pick up confronting evil and understand how this route,
it grows because it's really growing fast in America.
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