Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - No Spin News - Weekend Edition - September 6, 2025

Episode Date: September 6, 2025

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Welcome to the No Spin News Weekend Edition. All right, New York City may go even further left than California or Chicago. And that's because there's a guy who may get elected mayor named Zoran Mam Donnie, 33 years old, born in Africa. Okay? And he's really never had a high-powered job or anything. And he's a communist. So he calls himself a democratic socialist, but he isn't.

And all you do is trace back what he's said, and you know he's a communist. Remember, the definition of communism is that the government, whether it's a local, state or federal, seizes private property, okay, seizes the marketplace, and runs the economy. And that's what Mam Dani wants to do. And Dynie also doesn't believe in incarceration. He has called the New York City Police Department racist. It is, he is the most radical mayoral candidate by far in New York City history. And the communist thing is obvious.

He wants to tell landlords, now this is private property. You buy a building, you're a landlord, you own it. What's to tell them exactly what they can and can't do with their private property? And if they violate what Mandami wants, they go to jail. That's communism. He wants to set up at taxpayer expense grocery stores to give free food to, I don't know who he's going to give it to. So he takes the distribution of food and he puts it under city control. That's communism.

He wants to give people of color more rights than white people. I mean, it's just, which is blatantly unconstitutional. But in New York City, the registration Democrat to Republican is five to one. There are five times many Democrats that vote in New York City as Republican. That's why I have this madness. Now, there's a new poll by American research in polling. Scott Mandami at 37%. Curtis Leeweather, Republican, 17.

Andrew Cuomo, former governor at 25. Current mayor, Eric Adams, at 11. Now, everybody asks me how this Mandami going to win. I think it's still a jump ball here because I don't think Adams is going to be able to go from now until Election Day. Run out of money. Could be wrong.

If Adams drops, then those votes have to go somewhere. So joining us now from New York City. Is the Republican contender for Mayor Curtis Leeway? You know, I might not have to introduce him. Spend his whole life in the city fighting crime and doing good things on balance, I would say. I know Curtis for a long time. So I took care of Mandami.

You don't have to worry that bottle with him. But I got five issues here. I want to know exactly what you would do. if you do get elected mayor. The first one is no bail. So Albany, the capital estate, is basically passed a law that says judges have very little discretion in assigning bail to violent criminals. And there's a whole list of this one you can't have any bail.

How does a mayor overcome that? Well, number one, that's all due to Andrew Cuomo, 2019, no cash bail. And he's doubled down on that in wanting to summon. somehow resurrect his political career and become mayor. That will haunt us. What you have to be able to do is pinpoint the judges who are not utilizing any judicial control and hiding behind the no cash bail, and you've got to name them and shame them. That's not happening whatsoever. And then, more importantly, you have to harken back to what was the one-two punch. When Rudy Giuliani beat David Dinkins, the crime rate was far more horrific, 2,100 murders a year, 10,000 unsolved shootings.

He barely beat Dinkins the second time that he challenged him. And then quickly thereafter, a man that nobody knew, unseated, a man who many thought was an iconic figure in the Democratic Party, Mario Cuomo, the father of Andrew Cuomo now. With that one-two punch, you can make all the difference in the world. So if I get elected and I intend on getting elected, I pave the way for Elise Stefanik to beat Kathy Hokel because if Elise can get 33, 34% of the vote in the city in the next election, then you'll have a Republican mayor and a Republican governor who can go to work on both the city council that is predominantly progressive and the state legislature that is predominantly progressive. All right. It's a big F, but it makes sense. Most of the crime in New York City on the street. It's also one other thing, Bill, real quickly. The mayor does get to appoint some of the judges, obviously. Yeah, obviously, and we know the judges are the problem, but just exposing them. People have no shame and, you know, that. They don't care.

Moserty Street crime in New York City is committed by drug addicts. We need money to buy whatever they're using. killing themselves with. They're allowed to run wild, set up tents, live on the street, inject narcotics in front of children, degrade public safety. It's horrendous. Same thing's happening in most progressive cities. What would you do with these drug addicts? A quality of life that everybody is exposed to. It doesn't matter. The subways brings everybody together. So you don't see it in your neighborhood, you'll eventually going to see it on the subway. remove where though we're going to remove them well number one there are state hospitals that have plenty of empty space unfortunately when Andrew Cuomo fled to Albany because he was going to

be impeached he had downsized the number of state breads available for people with mental health disorders and drug addiction disorders do you force them though okay there are enough there are enough facilities in New York States a big state to put these people in, but most of them don't want rehab. They don't want to go there. How do you get them there? Right. Well, you don't have harm reduction clinics that provide the attic not only with the needles, but with a nurse to properly inject them, which then destroys the fabric of the quality of life in that neighborhood because everybody who's a drug user comes in there. I mean, if you're going to go to that step, you might as well give them the drugs for free because all it does is

bring the drug dealers into a location as if they were vendors at Yankee Stadium. No, all that is right. But again, the question remains, you know what the problem is, I know what the problem is. But if you try to forcibly remove drug addicted people from the city, you're going to run into the ACLU, you're going to run to Albany Legislature. How do you get around that? You have a thousand lawyers on Corporation Council that we pay. and all they do is settle lawsuits. You're going to go into court. You're going to battle the civil libertarian group.

You're going to battle legal aid. You're going to battle everybody who practices the art of ICEU. You're going to win some. You're going to lose some. But you see, the taxpayers are going to know that you got their back. And if somebody is out there and they're involved in drug trafficking and drug use, you've got to lock them up because time and time again, men and women, who have had serious drug issues, have said they've been able to dry

out in prison. And then you've got to make sure that they have proper rehab. Okay, but you can't put them in prison because that doesn't fall under the bail thing. I mean, if you could isolate them for a few days, that would improve the problem because then they can't get their drugs. All right, the third one is there are thousands of migrants who come into the country illegally, get on a bus, and come to New York City. How is Mayor Slee, we're going to stop that? Well, number one, we have a number of migrants. who are an integral part of the business of New York City. You start doing ice raids in the backrooms of every restaurant in New York City.

They're out of business. You start doing ice raids in the hotel and the accommodation industry. They're out of business. You've got to give them a vehicle. And President Trump has talked about that from time to time. They need a special vehicle to be able to stay and do the work that my three sons will not do. And this generation of millennials and Gen Zs, are not going to do.

It's very easy for us. You would make it easier, but again, that's a federal duty, not a city or state duty. And I'm not sure Donald Trump, he may do it, but it would take a while. So when they flood in here and look at Queens, they've taken over blocks, set up brothels, set up drug dens, set up this and that, and the city of New York doesn't cooperate with Now, I know you would. You'd write an executive order that says, you know, all the NYPD have got to alert ICE. That would be a big step, but then the city council is going to undermine you on that.

Well, also, you invite in FBI director Patel, because a lot of it is done by the narco-terrorists who are also engaged in sex trafficking. You close those locations down. You go after the absentee landlords. They're allowing their buildings to be utilized for this trafficking. the pimps and the madams, and the people who will benefit. And to the ladies who have been procured for this business, you see if you can get them back on track.

But there is a way to stop this activity that is being fueled by these narco-terrorists and these cartels. Now, the president has announced he wants to go to war against the cartels. This is one clear way of doing it. And I would be fully cooperative with the president and his agencies in vetting them out of New York City where they are. And that's what got a direct impact on crime. That's what got your rival, Eric Adams, a pass from being prosecuted.

He promised to do that. But I don't know if he's done it or not. The city is filthy. But to be honest, you have to deal with Tom Holman and ICE. No, I know that. And I know you would. The city is filthy. You know the city as well as any human being on Earth.

I'm second. The city's filthy. How are you going to figure it up? You set it up by working with the existing agencies. You free up the police, especially with coming. The police aren't going to sweep up the... What's wrong with the Department of Sanitation in New York City? Why are streets...

Why are garbage cans overflowing? Why are rats running all over the place? Why is this happening? Why it's happened? Because we've allowed the unions too much control over the workday of their men and women. So perfect example, sanitation department, once they're finished their route of picking up the trash, they go back to what they call the barn, and they wait around until their eight

hours is finished. Used to be when I was a kid and you were a kid, Bill, the sanitation apartment had brooms on the front of the truck. They would have to clear off all the sewers and the catch basins, and they would have to do proper maintenance. Now that they no longer do it, we have these business. improvement districts which exhibit an additional tax on the local merchants driving them out of existence because now they're paying the normal tax, corporate tax rate, they're paying

property tax and now they have to pay a special business improvement. But how do you convince the unions to do a better job? They obviously don't want their people working as hard as their people could work. So you have to bring this to the attention of the people. They're paying for the service. They're entitled to the service. People know it. All right, last question.

Last question. The mayor has never actually brought it to their attention of how much is being paid and how little service is being done. Look, the previous sanitation commissioner, Jessica Tisch, took half the cans away from the corners where you would put the trash. They've taken the cans out of the subways with the idea that somehow you're going to carry the trash up to the street. These are not common sense solutions. No, they're not. All right. Last question. One of the primary reason, Mamdani is reading in the polls is the cost of living

in New York. The most expensive cities in the world, younger people, and that comprises most of his voters, they say, I can't make it in New York. If you can make it here, you can make it anywhere, but I can't make it here. Everything is too expensive. Can a mayor drive down costs? Oh, absolutely. A number one, you have to do. to move to start slashing the taxes, the personal income tax, the corporate tax, and then the property tax, and then there's a trickle-down effect. And then you have all the hidden taxes. You have speed cameras everywhere, which is just meant to pick your pocket, fees and fines

that drive you almost to the verge of bankruptcy each month. And then you have to reach out to the millennials and Gen Zers and said, we made you a promise. If you got a four-year education, two years of graduate school, you were a CPA, a financial analyst or a lawyer, making $150,000 to start. They say, well, why am I still living in an apartment with three or four other roommates? It's like I'm back in college in a dormitory. And you have to say there are 100,000 apartments at a warehouse out there, Bill, leading with 6,000 in NYCHA projects alone. We've got to free up those locations to put them out in the marketplace, meet with the landlords, and find out specifically what their needs are. And generally, it comes to tenant landlord,

court. The landlords have no rights in tenant landlord court. You have men and women who have been squatting in their apartment since the lockdown and pandemic. Six, seven years and nothing happens. I don't know if the landlords, though, are going to help you out on that one. But anyway, Curtis, if you get elected, you're going to be busy. I think you know that. The city is really, really on the cliff. And thanks for appearing today, good luck. We'll check in with you before the election. Let's face it, the U.S. economy is under stress. National debt rising, trade war, shaking the markets. And meanwhile, China is dumping the dollar and stockpiling gold.

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they have trillions of dollars to spend the progressive left. All right? They are now attacking white men. Now, I hesitate to even do this segment, but there's an interesting component to it that you should know about. So I don't do much about the two joys, Joy Behar on the View, and Joy Reid, who was fired from MSNBC. Why would I enable them in any way? I don't do a lot about them. But what they put forth, and Reed is worse than Behar, is a racist view of the world. White men are bad.

Now, if you had an American on the media to say black men are bad, that person be fired instantly, couldn't go out of his house or her house. But you can say white man are evil. And Joy Reid has. Roll the tape. They can't fix the history they did. Their ancestors made this country into a slave hell. But they can clean it up now because they got the Smithsonian.

and they can get rid of all the slavery stuff. When you tell them, you don't have to be excellent. You just have to be white. You will get mediocrity. You will get mediocrity because they're not asking white people to be great. They're not asking them to be great. They're telling them you can be the opposite of great

and be defense secretary. Okay, I guess I'm in that category. I'm a white guy. I don't know anything about the defense secretary and how that applies to me. and if you think there aren't incompetent African Americans in situations, then you're out of your blank in mind. There are incompetent people everywhere of every color.

They're good people of every color. So why am I running that soundbite? Because there was a response to it that I found very interesting. It was written by Dr. Owen Anderson, who teaches philosophy and religion at Arizona State University. And he said this, quote. Let me quote him. As one of many, as one of the few, and I mean very few, conservative professors at Arizona State University, I can testify firsthand that faculty meetings and mandatory trainings often turn into open mic nights for contemptuous remarks about white men. And if you raise the issue, cue the gaslighting chorus. We can't be racist. Only white men can be racist.

So yes, laugh at the absurdity if you like, but parents should know that Joy reads public bile is not an isolated eccentricity. It is the distilled essence of a worldview taught in classrooms across the country. Dr. O. Anderson joins us now from Phoenix. Now, how can you know that's taught across the country if you just teach in Arizona State? and I believe you, by the way, that it is endemic all over the place in common. How do you know for sure what's going on in the other schools? Yeah, you'll see this, and thanks for talking with me today, you'll see this kind of content often featured in things like DEI or social justice training.

And so when you go onto a website of your local state university, it's not hard to look up what exactly are they saying about race? Okay, that's true. The nuts and the loons have the loudest megaphone. I'm not sure it's accepted policy at the majority of American colleges. Do you believe it is? Well, in my case, I know Arizona State University

had a required employee training about, it was called inclusive communities. So you think to yourself, okay, that sounds good. We all want to be inclusive and encourage everybody. But when you got into the training, you found out quickly that the content was about anti-whiteness, the problems with heteronormitivity, and the decolonizing movement, which is a philosophy that comes out of Marxist, a Marxist philosophy that comes out of South America. Who do you think is behind this whole thing? See, it has erupted now

into a public spat, but for years it was fairly silent, you know, on campuses. But now with lawsuits from the Trump administration against Columbia and Harvard and other schools. It's really in the public arena. Who's driving that anti-white stuff? I think it actually ties in perfectly with the question you were asking about places like California, Chicago, New York, because I often ask the same question, why would someone want to ruin the place they live for themselves or their kids and grandkids? But it comes back to a philosophy that's been taught for some time, especially in the

humanities departments of our universities that has to do with the oppressed and the oppressor. All of history is divided up into those two categories. And the oppressed can't really do anything wrong. Things are done to them. So when you hear the mayor of Chicago speak about guns, it sounds like guns just drive up there by themselves and walk around Chicago shooting people. There's no personal responsibility taken. And so I think this philosophy really traces itself to the Communist Manifesto, right? The world is divided up into those who are oppressed and marginalized and those who have the capital and do the oppression.

Okay, and because white men hold a lot of power in the United States and always have, then it just goes over there. What percentage of students at Arizona State buy this kind of stuff, do you think? Yeah, there was a recent poll out that was really interesting because what it showed us was students in classes, will tell their professor, almost all the students will tell the professor they agree with DEI or LGBTQ philosophy, but then they'll tell the pollster, they don't really believe that. It was something like 60% don't really believe that material. And I thought that was important

as an educator because it told me that what we're doing is we're teaching our students that they need to lie in order to get along and get good grades. And that, especially as a philosopher, that's the opposite of what I want to do with my students. I want to teach them to be able to ask whatever questions are on their mind and be involved in rigorous debates. And so I think that's really what's at stake here is that our universities have crumbled into these ideological factories. And that's not put forward on Meet the Professor Knight or the Parente Tour or the donor meal.

You're not going to hear about this stuff there. No, no. And the philosophy is dominant because the progressives who have power at the university hire other progressives. That's what happened at Harvard. So if you were a conservative- That's what's amazing is the college fits did two polls last winter, one in Arizona State University, one at U of A,

and they had basically the same outcome, which is it's something like 2% of the faculty are Republicans. Now, if you look at any other profession, and you were told 98% of the people in that profession are white men, well, then the professors would say, well, that's proof of system. bias, and we need to even that out. But it doesn't apply to faculty. Faculty can have these huge differences from the populations they serve. Another one is atheism. Atheism is much higher

among college professors than it is among the American population. And so what that tells you is there's been decades of hiring going on to get those skewed numbers. Yeah, there's no doubt about it. Now, I want you to do me a favor, professor, and you can say no. You're teaching in philosophy course this semester? Actually, yeah, I am. I got a philosophy and a religion course. Okay, but this is a philosophy course. So I would like you to give the urchins an assignment. Very simple assignment. The assignment would be this. Why do you think American voters elect or re-elect people who have failed in the past. So, and then you can cite an example of Chicago. There's a most violent city. We got 7,000 dead in 10 years, yet the voters of Chicago continue

to elect far left progressive mayors. Why do you think that is? And then when you get the essays, then you come back here and pick out five or six and tell us what the kids say. I think that would just be a great exercise. Yeah, and I think it actually overlaps with the question I asked already, so that's good. And the question I ask is, why do people keep doing the same failed thing in life? Right? That's the definition of insanity. Yeah, I'll answer the question and don't tell your students. Number one is in ignorance. So we have millions of Americans who live in bubbles, they just don't know what's happening, and they don't care to know. And number two is dependence. You have more millions who have given up. They don't compete. They don't want to

compete. They can't have a nice house. They believe. They won't apply themselves. They won't develop a skill. They won't work hard. Therefore, they need the progressive entitlements to survive. And it doesn't matter. Go ahead. I'm sorry, but that's the essence of, right, the Marxist approach. And I want to be clear, when I use the word Marxist, I'm not using that as an insult. It's a descriptive term. It's a philosophy.

Yeah, about this view. Because the left will say fascists, and they mean an insult, and they're calling people fascists who aren't fascists. But here, these are professors who most of the time will say, yes, I am a Marxist. And a few times with a object to that, when you ask them, tell me about history, they'll say, well, history is a conflict between the oppressed and the oppressors.

Oh, okay, that's Marxism. So the Marxist view is about how most of us, or not us, because I'm not in the group. Most people don't have responsibility. Right. Life is done to them. And these professors aren't moving to Vietnam or Cuba or China or any communist country anytime soon. All right, Professor, let us know if you can drop that essay on the class.

I think that would be just fascinating to see. And thank you very much for helping us out today. This is the No Spin News Weekend Edition. From what I understand, I could check. From what I understand, thousands of pages of documents have been given, but it's really a Democrat hoax because they're trying to get people to talk about something that's totally irrelevant to the success that we've had as a nation since I've been president. I don't know that that is going to sell, but let's have some better minds, okay? I got the three Americans assembled for you tonight. Bill O'Reilly and the one and only Stephen A. Smith, they're with me for the whole hour.

gentlemen thank you very much for that it's good to have you both steven a took the time to come in and be next to me so i'm going to go to him first because that's my prerogative um stephen a it's good to have you it's good to have you both see um epstein's not going away what do you think of the president's play today and what needs to happen i think the president spewed a lot of drivel when he said that uh you know it's a democratic host you can't say that when marjorie tally green is up there saying that you can't say that when guys like steve bannon is up they're saying that, along with others that have been staunched supporters of him. This is an important issue, obviously, to a lot of people, a lot of folks that supported him,

want the quote-unquote culprits uncovered and revealed and exposed. It's something that Pam Bondi promised. It's something that Patel Cash Patel promised. It's something that a bevy of Trump supporters have promised for quite a long time. And Trump certainly never did anything to dispel. or to diminish the noise that they were making in any way. And so now that he's in office

and he's called upon the show whatever it is that the administration, that the DOJ or anybody else may have in their possession to reveal what is indeed in those Epstein files, assuming there are Epstein files, he's got to address it because there are people

that are a part of his administration. Dan Bongina, let me not forget that name as well. All of these people were talking about the FSD files, the FST files, the FST files. The one thing that Trump doesn't get to do at this particular moment of time is blame the Democrats for it. They may be doing their share in terms of pouncing on it and trying to instigate matters to some degree, but trust me, they're not the big culprits in all of this.

These people that support Trump have spoken vehemently about their desire to have these files revealed and people within his own administration said, we got something to show you and they didn't show the American people and everybody's remembering and they're not going to let it go. And Bill, in political philosophy, there's something called a Hobson's Choice, which is something where there's actually

really no choice at all. And I feel like this is shaken up to be one of these, not because of the president, you know, of all the things that the president sold that I believe have no basis, he was not selling this one,

but it was sold for him and now people believe that there is something to know. How do you get satisfaction in this if you are this administration? Pretty tough because this is a very tedious story for me. I didn't even cover it tonight on the no-spin news. And before I get into why, I'm going to tell you, your monologue on the Holocaust assertion was excellent

because that's not what's happening in Israel. It's not even close. But it ties in a little bit to the Epstein story. people believe what they want to believe. This whole Epstein thing was resurrected for one reason to try to pin some criminality on Donald Trump, some connection with Epstein. That's why you didn't hear about it during the Biden administration,

even though Bill Clinton's prominently involved with this. You know, your word. No Democrats were outraged. Nobody was demanding anything. Number two, I don't even know what the files are. are. Nobody knows what they're holding back. Are they holding back anything? Is there a big analysis? I don't know. And Congress is right to get involved and say, well, look, we want to know to make sure that there isn't any miscarriage of justice. So we're going to ask for

every piece of paper to be given to an independent counsel. I'm sorry, I hate that word, Yeah, me too. And that person would then analyze it and come up with a report. That's the only fair way to do it. But remember something. The hatred against Donald Trump skews everything. Trump used the wrong word by saying hoax, not a hoax. It's petty fogging.

And Stephen A, that's the word of the day, and he knows what it means. You take any accomplishment from Donald Trump, anything. You're not going to acknowledge it if you are a good a tramp hater or a Democrat, a dying wool. So in order for every other thing to go away, you slap the most sensational thing up top. Finally, the victims. They're not doing this properly, all right?

The people who were abused by Jeffrey Epstein. They should have an attorney representing them. And if they have a list of so-called abusers, those people should be sued. Reading, playing, learning. Stellist lenses do more than just correct your child's vision. They slow down the progression of myopia.

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Are those from winners? Ooh, are those beautiful gold earrings? Did she pay full price? Or that leather tote? Or that cashmere sweater? Or those knee-high boots? That dress, that jacket, those shoes. Is anyone paying full price for anything?

Stop wondering. Start winning. Winners, find fabulous for less. All right, that's how you do this. You don't say we're going to go out for dinner and make up a list or have a list, not make it up, but have a list and then we might put it out. That's not how you do this. Yeah, but I don't know that there's a rulebook. So there's way too much emotion.

I get it, but this is an emotional thing because you've got sexual assault of underage people and young people and vulnerable people. The only pushback, as a matter of fact, is the reason that Bongino and those guys were selling this wasn't to corner Trump. it was to corner Democrats and it was to corner the elites and that this was going to be the way to take down the people who escaped the system. Neither of you are wrong or what you're saying. I'm certainly in no position of a racity of it all. What I'm saying is this.

When you hear Pam Bondy, when you had heard her speak in the past, she indicated she has possession of the files. You're about to see it. It's on the desk. We can't escape that bill. See, that's where Trump gets inside. I won't say in trouble. But that's where he gets.

himself in the eye of storm, even though they're targeting him to some degree, and you could always make that argument when it comes to the Democrat. It doesn't negate the fact that people in his own administration said they were in possession of it. We know what we have, and we're going to make sure that you know sooner than later, and that they don't do it. Now, come on now. You can't do that. That's what happened, Bill. And they keep doing it. They did it with Kennedy. They did it with Dr. King. They did it with U.S. UFOs. Go ahead, Bill. Right after Ms. Bondi said that, I said she should clarify the statement, and she should do it tomorrow.

Yep, you were right. And then why she doesn't, is a mystery of the universe. I don't know why. Trump doesn't, hold on, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, whoa, Trump doesn't want this. She didn't listen to Bill O'Reilly? Is that what you're saying on national television? She did not. Has she not read the books? What? Number one, bestselling nonfiction author of all time.

second only to the Bible? That's right. How about that? I mean, there were a lot of guys, right? And there was a lot of guys. There were a lot of guys writing the Bible. I'm just a lone, a loner. All by yourself.

By the way, I open up confronting evil, which will be out next Tuesday, with the October 7th raid on the Israeli settlement. That is the forward of the book to define. what pure evil is in a very contemporary way. This isn't just about Jenghis Khan. But getting back to President Trump, there are things that the president does that I don't understand,

and I think I have probably one of the closest relationships of any immediate person with him. Hannity has the closest, okay? But he's never lied to me. I did ask him, are you going to release it? He said, yeah, He didn't seem to be perturbed by any of it. So he could clean it up.

The best way to clean it up is to hand over every piece of paper the Justice Department has to his special counsel and then have a time limit on the council's report, not three years from now. That is the best most methodical way to clear this up. Right? And let's add this to it. And for once, don't blame the Democrats for everything. That goes to that. No, the Democrats want to hang Trump.

Let me say what I mean. Yeah, but they didn't start this. I said, I know they do, but I'm saying, what I'm saying is to do what you suggested, but in the same breath, not go that route in terms of pointing the finger at them because people in his own administration opened their mouths and said something that was inconsistent with what he's saying. That's all I'm saying. Let's be honest, Stephen A. Of course we're being honest.

Let's be honest. You're a straight shooter. the motivation of the Democratic Party and to hate Trump cadre is to tie criminality around Trump's not to know what the victims went through not to sympathize with the victims they don't give a hoot about the victims

they want to bring Trump down collectively as a body I totally agree with you individually there are some sprinkled in that have a core decency about them and I wouldn't castigate on them all that way the Democrats and everyone calling for transparency have high ground. Anyone who reduces the relevance of what the victims have to say or the existence of what was

promised has low ground. Now, I want to take a break. When we come back, I don't know. Maybe Bill will know. Maybe you'll know. I did not see coming what seems to be the most important non-tariff-related issue. And I'm not letting go with the tariffs. And we're going to talk about them tonight because we just got a big piece of information that needs to be digested by all. But the president going after crime may be the best connection to the majority we have in our politics right now. Where does it lead? What is the risk? The word from two of the best in the business. And me. Next.

We're going to be going to maybe Louisiana and you have New Orleans, which has a crime problem. We'll straighten that out in about two weeks. It'll take us two weeks. Easier than D.C. But we could straighten out Chicago. All they have to do is ask us. I have a gift for you, and you're looking at it right now. Bill O'Reilly and Stephen A. Smith weighing in on the most important issues that we all face together. And I did not see the federal government getting involved in fighting crime as a thing. But it is, and it's working and people like it.

Okay? Now, the question becomes, where does it go? what is the right way for this to go? What is the wrong way? An example of the wrong way. Governor Pritzker of Illinois, I think has a lot of political cachet, a lot of talent. When you say to the president of the United States, don't come here when you have Chicago on your watch, it looks like you're defending the status quo. My question to you is, Bill, is there a pitfall in this for the president? I think it's working well. But is the military the weakness? And should he change strategy and say, what do you need in Norlands? What do you need in St. Louis? How can I help

instead of just always going to the military because of the message that sends to his critics? Well, you're lucky to have me tonight, Cuomo. Actually, you're lucky to have me any night. And kudos to Dusty, by the way, for putting this on for the hour. I'm going to miss the obscure congressman from Michigan you usually have following me. But you can book them for tomorrow or her. wherever you want. I got the stats. I got the stats in front of me for Chicago. Pritzker is the worst governor in the country. He's worse than Newsom, and it's hard to believe that you could be worse than Newsom. And the reason is that Pritzker doesn't tell the truth, all right? He, I don't want to, I hate the word lies, but he misleads his own people in Illinois and the nation.

So from 2014 to last year, 10 years, there have been more than 7,000 human beings murdered in the city of Chicago. That is correct. And Pritzker will tell, oh, it's going down. It doesn't help the people in a cemetery, and it isn't going down significantly, based on the Labor Day weekend stats, that were horrific. So Pritzker doesn't want to solve the problem. It's too messy because the murders are taking place in the black. neighborhoods. 80% of the 7,000 fatalities are African American. And they're being gunned down by drug operations, young people in the streets running wild. Not only are there people

being murdered on the south side, they can't come out of their homes. They can't testify against anybody. It's like the cartels in Mexico. You testify or inform on one of these gang members, you're dead and so is your family. Okay. This is This is a terror situation, and that is the way that Trump is going to get in. Because the posse comitatis law, which is a well-needed law in this country, forbids federal troops from local policing. Yeah, and I think that's my concern. Local police.

Yeah, but that's my concern here. Right. It's not the what. Fighting crime is good. It's the how. No. Okay. But listen to me and take notes.

Right now, as we speak, the five White House councils are drawing up for the Supreme Court, because that's what it'll wind up, okay, reasons why these drug gangs are terrorists. And that elevates it from street crime into an area where the president has authority. Now, I don't know if that's going to work, but I do know this. is the worst. He doesn't care about these people. He never has. And these murders in Chicago have to stop. And the only one who can stop it is Trump. The only person on earth you can stop it is Trump. I don't agree. I think this was a good play for the president that I did not see coming, but I think the how is everything. Saying stay out, Mr. President, we don't need your help.

Bad look, okay? Bill's right about that. Look, either the numbers are going up or the numbers are going down or the numbers are staying the same. They're going down, but not to anybody's satisfaction. I don't think Pritzker's a liar, but he looks bad until you get to the how. I don't believe the National Guard, whether they find it legally saleable or not is the answer to bringing anything down. They're not trained for it. But it's the right issue, but I think there's an opportunity in going after how you fight crime. Let me talk to America right now in saying this. okay the lone black man on this segment is me i don't need any of bill o'Reilly statistics that he just viewed to know that he's right in terms of what has been transpiring throughout in the streets of chicago it has been going on for years it was going on before obama was in office it was going on when he was in office it's been going on since he's been in office i recall seeing a black couple on national television asking for military assistance. That's how bad it has been

in Chicago. And one administration after another has either been incapable or unwilling to do anything about it. It is shameful and black folks in that city have been getting killed for years and I'm disgusted at the level of ineffectiveness or unwillingness that they've executed and getting better things done and making it better for the law-abiding citizens in Chicago.

Having said that, we got to pay attention to what Trump, we have to pay attention, hold on, Bill, we got to pay attention to this. When he went into L.A., that was a bit excessive. You got a bunch of people in L.A. They were talking about stuff was going on in a two-block radius. It could have been handled by the local PD.

In Washington, D.C., that is not a state. You understand? He has the right. It's run by the federal government. He has a right. if he wants to send a national guard, even though the National Guard isn't trained for that. And when you're sending the Marines and Army, they're trained to kill. They're not trained to police. So you've got to send in the right people.

I get that part. But I understand his intent when you're talking about what's transpired in Washington, D.C. Chicago may very well be unlawful, but with Pritzker, you're absolutely right. Yo, what are you going to do about it? There's one thing to say, Trump, don't send in the National Guard. It's another thing for the president to come out of his mouth. I'm here to help if they ask for it and then for you to say no

and then try to implement laws in place that would prohibit him from sending help. Wait a minute. When that happens, you can't point the finger at Bill O'Reilly. You can't point the finger at Chris Cuomo. You can't point the finger at people and just say, oh, it's really not politics. Who the hell are they? It's all about politics

if you're a governor and you're going to take that position. So I have no problem with you at all, Bill, calling out the governor of Illinois the way that you have. Let me throw... I have a problem with you. Let me throw... I know, you always do, because you're jealous. Anyway, let me throw three things in.

Your last statement was very powerful. Thank you. These people, Pritzker and Brandon Johnson, the mayor, cannot admit it. They can't admit it that it's their fault. Nothing is done to stop the murder in the poor neighborhoods.

They won't admit it. can't admit it. So Prisker actually said to the press, the motivation for Donald Trump to bring in more protection in the form of the Guard and federal agents is that Trump wants to establish a Nazi hierarchy in this country. Pritzker said that. Now, if you don't think that's a lie, then you don't know what the Eighth Commandment means. Okay? That is so insane. It's like nothing I've ever heard. And Stephen A, just for your frame of reference, which I'm trying to help you with, as you know, the police chief of Los Angeles said to the press, we can't handle this.

I remember that. He said it. We need help. I remember that. But I also remember him being conspicuously quiet thereafter. and the mayor and the governor stepped in and said, we can handle it ourselves. That's entirely different than saying we don't want any.

We don't want any of it. When you look at Pritzker, right now, what you should be doing is this. Excuse me, we don't get this together. I'm going to let the president do what he suggested. I'm going to get the help of the federal government to put a stop to this. He could say something that simple, but it would be given the president credit.

That's right. It would be given the other side credit. And obviously, that's where politicization kicks into play because people are of that mindset thinking along those lines that it's all about politics because you don't want to receive the obvious help that you need. Yes.

It's just inexcusable. There's no doubt about it. But I'm aware of what the sheriff said in Los Angeles, California. I'm also aware of the backtracking, and I know that was politicized as well. There's an opportunity in the how. Someone who got it kind of wrong,

then pivoted and is now getting it right, is the governor of Maryland. Governor Westmore first said, keep our name out of your mouth. You shouldn't talk about it. about the President of the United States like that, in my opinion. But I get the power play he was making. Then when people said to him, so you're saying you don't want any of the resources,

and the President pivoted and said, I'm here to help, not just National Guard, more pivoted, and said, well, we'll work with the President. Forget about coming here to work with me. Let's sit down. Yes. On my show. And it was a very good pivot that took place in there. And you did a very good job of talking to him about his level of personal accountability as well, I thought.

Let's take a break. Can we come back? Now we have the flip. Everything that's working on the dynamic for Trump with crime is working against him with tariffs. They are bragging about how much money is coming into this country. We need to be honest about who is paying the money that's coming from the tariffs. It is not China. It is our company, small businesses specifically, and they are paying a big price.

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biscuit or English muffin sandwiches, small hot coffee, and more. Limited time only at participating Wendy's taxes extra. The economy always matters. No question about it, no matter how we distract ourselves. I believe the economy is going to be divined by pricing as a function of whether tariffs helped or hurt, okay? Let's discuss. Bill O'Reilly, Stephen A. Smith. The latest is that a record amount of revenue is said to be coming in. Now, let's put to the side all of the legalities. I believe the president clearly exceeded the emergency powers to tariffs.

Because remember, the president, the executive can't tax, okay? Congress can. Congress has given the president's powers in very different laws over the years. I believe he clearly exceeded them. That's what the court has said so far. but they'll peel it and we'll figure it out here's my question to you stephen a smith i start is it a win for the president if the money is coming in but it's being paid for by our small businesses i just had the gym in a box uh owner uh half of the owner uh nika her husband nino owns the other half um saying i'm paying these my prices are exploding because i'm paying the import tax is there a win or is this potentially a lose if the money is coming out of the pockets of the people were supposed to help the most.

I think the answer is both. It could potentially be a loss. But when you listen to the Trump administration talk and his support is bloviated about what he has been doing courtesy of these tariffs, they say there's been about $15 trillion in pledges that have been made to manufacturers and my, you know, conductors and all of this other stuff.

My position is that those are pledges. They ain't guaranteed. And those pledges can be reneged upon in the event that those companies are losing. so much money that they don't want to honor the commitment and the pledges that they've made. So it's a bunch of pomp and circumstances as far as I'm concerned until it's finalized in writing and we see it have a positive effect on our economy. But if you listen to people talk, they say things were expected to be much worse.

It is not. They talk about things along those lines. And look at the S&P 500, just a couple of weeks ago. It was up about 10%. They bring up stuff like that. And they point to that as being a positive. I say it remains to be seen. If you can imagine that if companies are paying too much, that it's going to ultimately trickle down to the consumer,

it's certainly not going to provoke, you know, employment on a part of these companies, bringing in more employees so people can have money to spend and fuel the economy, that would be a huge negative. But, again, it remains to be seen, so we don't know. The people who say hello to you every time we're together, Bill, are not the investor economy. They're not what's driving Wall Street and the magnificent seven tech companies that are largely, leading the way in the stock returns that Stephen A. is talking about. People are sweating labor. This is a lagging indicator, these tariffs. It's just starting to bear the bite. If the deals don't come and come soon so that the tariffs can be adjusted, do you believe

this haunts in the midterms? I have no blank an idea. Okay. I harken back to my accounting class at Shamanad High School on Long Island, which was torture. No, it was before that, just for the middle of World War II. It was torture. But I do remember accounts receivable and accounts payable. So I cannot analyze the tariffs, unlike you, Karnak the Magnificent, without data. And I don't have data.

When the quarter ends, every business then is required to put out a form, this is how much we paid, this is how much we made, this is how much we lost, whatever. I had to pay one of my corporate taxes next week, and I tell the government this is what we do is we didn't. So this, it's impossible to analyze this. No, no, no. If you're right, you're right about income tax. You're right about income tax. you are not right about these kinds of excise taxes and importing taxes. Because this is...

No, it'll be listed on their sheets. But you can know before. You can know before. You do not need to see this as a function of their tax returns. No, no. You're hearing it in real time, and they're putting out data in real time. No, I'm hearing it. But hearing it doesn't matter.

I'm a journalist. I have to see it. Anybody can say anything. Or are you just delaying and hoping time helps you? I don't hope anything. I got no rooting interest in the tariffs. I know Trump has the authority to regulate how the nation trade system goes down. There's no question about that.

He has the authority to do it. Okay? And he's lost a bunch of crap. But you're right that if come February that small businesses stop hiring, that profits go down for both corporations, and small business, that people are paying more for essentials, then the Republicans will get wiped out in the midterms. Because that is issue number one.

I agree with you. It's issue number one. I believe that there is no time. I believe that you've got to get on this right now. Small businesses especially are feeling it. Get on what? They are feeling a bottom line pressure because, their cost structure has gotten exploded by these tariffs.

And their costs are up 35, 50, 75%, and they're being asked to pay it now. That's not what the consumer is it. That's not what the consumer is experiencing. I pay three bucks a gallon for gas today. But gas is separate. It's all consumer-driven. Right. Listen, gas, fine.

But you're going to see this story develop. I'm just saying that there's a lot of risk from the way this was done. And again, I'm always about the how, okay? What the president did showed that he was active and muscular in this. But how it pans out, I think there's a lot of risk in this one. And let's remember fear. And I agree with that. Let's remember the way of fear.

I agree there's a lot of risk. Last word to Steve. If you've got to, if you've got the consumer out there, that's scared because they don't trust what they see is going on, regardless of any factual, the absence of any factual data to support their position, it may affect the way that they spend, which affects our economy. It seems simple to me. Sentimentality. All right, let's take a break. When we come back, I want to get a quick take on whether or not what's happening with vaccines is making us healthier or sicker. Next. The Florida Department of Health, in partnership with the governor, is going to be working to end all vaccine mandates in Florida law.

Every last one of them. Every last one of them is wrong and drips with disdain and enslaved. Bill, explain this to me. The guy's alone. That's the explanation. He's crazy. Who was that guy? He's the head of health for Florida, the state of Florida. Oh, man. Look, measles are yet to have mandatory vaccination polio,

but it should be done on a school-by-school basis. local issue. I don't think the federal or state government should be telling local school districts what they can and can't do because that's always been a local issue. That's why we pay property taxes. That's where we have local school boards. But for a guy to stay, hey, we're not going to require you to be vaccinated against measles when that is a killer for children. I mean, this guy, I don't know, what he's doing? I'm just flummoxed, Cuomo. It's amazing to me. First of all, he sounded ignorant as hell, number one. Number two, I agree with what Bill said. But the biggest thing for me is that you're talking about a guy working under the administration,

obviously Governor Ron DeSantis in Florida, and what do the Republicans pride themselves on, you know, states' rights and, you know, less government intervention, et cetera, et cetera. And now he's up there, flailing his arms and bragging and, you know, currying cheers and stuff like that. All vaccines, no matter what.

He said COVID vaccine. He said all vaccines. Like, no vaccines have been helpful. No vaccines work. Really, where's the evidence for that? Why would you say something like that? Why would you have that kind of mandate? How irresponsible could you possibly be

by coming to that conclusion and deducing that it's okay to say something like that? I don't get it. I just don't understand. Well, the play is power to the people, but it seems to me like gross overreach. It is overreach. It leads me to the,

the thing that I've heard President Trump say that I hope happens, but I don't think it will. He put out a post that was ignored by everybody, I think, except us here at News Nation, where he said, I want the data on the COVID vaccines to be brought out, which it largely has, but introduced and debated because I think people should know what its real impact was. I think that is a discussion. I don't think it's going to happen, but I hope the president gets what it. he wants on that because this country needs it, Bill. And this guy is proof of how we're drowning and misperception. Well, here's an interesting situation. So Donald Trump was responsible

for the COVID vaccine. I was at an event with Carl Bernstein, a water gay reporter, who said that Trump was pretty much responsible for COVID, not Wuhan, not the Chinese Trump. And I didn't question, he was on stage and I was just watching. And I said to myself, Operation Warp Speed delivered this vaccine to a number of pharmaceutical companies at great cost to the taxpayer, but Trump got it done in less than a year. Then I was on the road with Donald Trump on the Trump-Orily history tour, perhaps the most successful roadshow in the last 10 years. And I asked the president, did you, take the vaccine and he said yeah as soon as it was developed i took it he got booed by some people

in the arena that shocked him and so the far right i always hammer the far left because they are a terrible threat to this country but the far right is so against medical science at this point in history it's frightening all right fellas let me take a quick break and then we'll jump back We'll be right back. All right. I want to thank the two big fellows for joining me. I want to ask you one quick thing. Give me a quick answer so we don't run into the bus's time. Bill O'Reilly, what do you think the biggest issue is in the near term for this country? Spending the economy and consumers believing in the American dream.

They've got to understand it's still possible. but Donald Trump has got to lower prices and be very aggressive in helping the working people of this country. I completely agree with Bill O'Reilly on all accounts and I want to applaud him because I didn't know he was capable of giving such a quick answer.

Ooh, thank you very much both. So, way to go. Thank you for listening to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. To watch the full episodes of the No Spin News, visit bill o'reilly.com and sign up to become a premium or concierge member that's bill o'reilly.com sign up and start watching today