Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - O'Round the World - April 5, 2026

Episode Date: April 5, 2026

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Here's to WestJetting since 96. Travel back in time with us and actually travel with us at westjet.com slash 30 years. I'm Bill O'Reilly. You're listening to Around the World. Let's begin. So you may have heard that we did a special on News Nation about the collapse of San Francisco, which was once, I think, the nicest city in the country is now a hellhole. Sorry, there are nice neighborhoods. Nancy Pelosi lives in one of them, okay?

But there are 40,000 drug addicts running around, according to Harvard, okay, a study, doing whatever they want to do. Stealing, injecting narcotics into their necks in front of children, debasing themselves and others, and it's horrible. So I was there, and I did the study. And it ran last Thursday at 9 p.m. Eastern Time. At 408 Eastern Time, the Bay, Area Council of San Francisco issued a statement, quote, what a tired, lazy narrative. Crime is down dramatically, AI investment pouring in, challenges remain, but San Francisco is on the upswing, and its beauty and cultural vibrancy are unmatched. Well, the beauty is gone if you are in the central part of the city or fishermen's war.

unless you'd like rats running all over the place. Okay. But that statement was issued five hours before the actual program. So how would they know? They didn't know. They just knee-jerked it as usual. And then they say, crime is down. Hey, San Francisco people, homicide.

So far this year, up 250%. That's murder. That's murder. 250%. Okay? Rape down 13%, but still a problem, big problem. And human trafficking, no change. That's where they grab kids, force them into prostitution. So you people are just lying to yourselves. And I know, I understand. You want business to come in, I got it. But don't have to be deceitful about it. Now, if you missed the special on News Nation, it's now on YouTube, it's going crazy. I understand. People are just watching it by the hundreds of thousands. Here's a taste of it. Go. So this is the Tenderloin District of San Francisco.

One of the worst places in the United States of America. The reason it's so bad is because there's no law enforcement at all here. There's violence. Drugs everywhere. They call this stretch. of the tenderloin cartel alley. Now I'm reporting with a mixture of anger and sadness should not be happening in the United States. All right and it's happening because of one major reason. People don't care about these people. They don't

care. All right. So every indignation you could possibly imagine happens right out here in full view. Now, the stats again, 40,000 drug addicts at least. And you know who sells them the drugs? Illegal Honduran gangs tied to the Sinaloa Mexican cartels. And they're protected. The gangs are protected because the city of San Francisco and the state of California are sanctuary cities.

They're not even arrested. even arrested these drug dealers. They're everywhere, and they're armed. You don't pay your drug debt? They'll cut off your hand with a machete. Okay? So the reason that this has gotten so far out of control is that the people who run San Francisco, as I just said, don't care. Because you could clean it up, and it's not that difficult to do. You have to force the 40,000 drug addicts, into what I call therapeutic centers, got to take them off the street and get them some help. Help means medical exams.

If there are drugs that block opiates from taking effect, do you know that? So you don't have to go into withdrawal. Most of these people on the streets want to be there. They don't want help. They like living like this. Every study shows that. And then there's the money.

So San Francisco spends $106,000 a person a year on these people. $106,000. Second is New York City, $88,000. Where does it get, San Francisco? Where does it get the tax rate? Nothing. They give them houses, the housing's too dangerous, and we get into that in the special. The addicts don't want to go into housing because they can get shot.

Because the housing are all full of drugs. It's where the dealers are. So they're not going there. And as far as numbers, the homeless rate in San Francisco is 100 per 10,000 people. in Houston, bigger city, six per 10,000. Miami, little gritty in Miami, 13. Homeless rate 100 per 10,000 in San Francisco. Why?

So you give them free money. They give you a debit card, and you can get between $600 and $1,000 cash. If you're in various programs in San Francisco, you put the card in every first of the month, and then cash comes out, and you buy heroin, or your fentanyl, or your methamphetamine. That's why. So the overarching of this special was, and I hope you watch it, okay, it's on YouTube now, it's easy to find. Go to bill o'Reilly.com and just pop this thing. is that there is a solution to the problem, but the city fathers in San Francisco,

because they want a virtue signal. Oh, no, no, no, we're so noble. But we don't care about the taxpayers or the people getting killed or the Honduran drug gangs. We don't care about them. But we're going to be humane. Meantime, the whole thing spiraled out of control

to an extent that's horrifying. Where do you see the pictures? It's horrifying. And as I said, it should never happen in the United States of America, ever. Every American should be outraged. They're not outraged. They attack me for doing a special. Oh, no, no, no, no, everything's getting better.

No, it's not. You're lying. It's not getting better. And the video proves it. Here's my News Nation appearance with Leland Vitter. Bill, where does Trump have to get to to declare a victim? that leaves him more powerful politically going into the midterms? It's got to get some kind of written deal that weapons inspectors would be admitted to Iran

to make sure that they don't enrich uranium anymore. That's pretty much it. I'm so tired of the cliche boots on the ground. I can't tell you. I was surprised by that. He was a senator from Tennessee. He's got to know what he's saying is just. just gibberish. So if the United States sends in infantry, it's not for an occupation. It's not

like Vietnam or Iraq or even Afghanistan. It's for a mission. So it's not inconceivable that U.S. soldiers would go in, for example, and knock out some of the batteries in the Straits of Hormuz and then be evacuated out. That's what this is all about. But these people with boots on the ground, there's going to be a draft. This is hysteria. And it's stoked by the media, of course. They want hysteria surrounding President Trump.

So that's what they do. But I was surprised by that guy in Tennessee. He should know better. Tim Berchett, well, he was wearing Tennessee orange and his volunteers lost in the basketball tournament, so maybe he was a little upset about that. You say, though, it's being stoked by the media. It's being stoked also, though, by a lot

of President Trump's supporters. Here is a number of the podcasters who got him elected and supported him now turning on him. And you'll know it's bad when they start talking about a draft.

Now, what is a draft? Well, of course, it's the definition of tyranny. And nobody caught the No, fuck you were. You gotta tell us why are we there first? How many soldiers do you think you need to occupy that country? Yeah, at least half a million,

and probably you can't do it with that? So what are you talking about here? And so you're saying, are we gonna start a draft for the least popular war going in in American history? That means Trump's under a lot of pressure to wrap it up? And not unless Rob Schneider becomes the Secretary of War. I haven't heard any serious person

say there's going to be a draft. I haven't either. No, but I think that's the point. One serious person. No, I haven't. What's the point? There isn't one serious person that thinks there

will be a draft. Not one. These are hucksters. These are scaremongers. It's not going to happen. It's ridiculous. It's not necessary. We fight high-tech wars now. Yeah. And so when I hear

all this stuff, it just helps Iran. And Iran is playing a game now where it wants to outlast the United States and Israel. And they know that the Europeans have already surrendered to them. You know, NATO has surrendered to Iran. They know that. They know that the corporate media in America will oppose anything and everything that Donald Trump does. So that's two powerful entities that are helping Iran, correct? Yeah, it is. They're going to hold on. Right. We said this from the very beginning.

The only thing that Iran has to do to win is to survive, to outlast Trump, a test of political wills and timing. But President Trump's up against a deadline. That deadline is the midterms. You made the point more than a year ago that basically he had until April or May of this year for prices to start coming down for people to feel relief. So he's trapped, right, between his legacy that can be defined by remaking the Middle East to this safer, better place in defanging Iran, or his political capital and political future by having to win the midterms that gas prices are going to kill his chances of. Which one's more important?

I think the president, I don't want to use the word desperately, but needs a deal with Iran within, within, I'd say six weeks. And then oil prices will come down very, very quickly because there's a glutto oil worldwide, a lot of oil. And China is a part of this equation that the president's going to go to meet the Chinese communists in Beijing. She, and I'm sure they have some kind of deal already worked out because they just don't go over there and say, hey, what do you want to do? That doesn't happen. But the president knows that if things continue to be a stalemate like Ukraine, very similar, that he could lose the midterms. And if that happens, his legacy is damaged. But consider this.

Democrats have nothing. It really wasn't a no-king's demonstration. It wasn't a no-solution's demonstration. So all these people that ran out there to demonstrate that they think that, President Trump is the worst human being in the world. What's their solution to Iran? What's your solution to having nukes? That's our D-block bill.

Okay. Well, later in the show. I'm setting you up for it. Thank you. And then people will be anxious to hear what you have to say. But it's true. So if you go down the list of problems that we have, how are the no-kings people going to drop food prices?

How? They don't have a clue. They don't know anything. And when you look at 75 million... I don't argue with that. And we'll make that point in the D-Block. So that's a big advantage to Trump. Right. It is a big advantage to Trump.

But the biggest advantage Democrats have right now is that they're not Donald Trump. They're not the ones in power. Because people are angry and they're going to be angry about high prices. They're going to be scared if this war continues. I mean, you're saying that the president, and you said,

I don't want to use the word desperate, but basically you said he's desperate for a deal. The Iranians know that. How then does he get a win? I didn't say desperate. You don't negotiate a deal out of desperation. He knows that. He's a very good deal maker. I'd never use that word. So let's correct the record there. He needs a deal. Okay. That would work to his advantage in every way. And he may get one. It just depends on how much damage the Iranians can absorb. Right.

And they've absorbed a lot of damage right now. And it also depends on the Persian people. If they rise up. When is enough enough for them? Yeah, when is enough enough for them? I mean, your whole country is being dismantled, and you're still sitting at home eating pita bread? Well, there's not what pita bread going on.

My sources tell me there's more happening on the ground in Iran, Iranians are still able to stop the flow of information out, but there's a lot happening. Bill, thank you very much. We'll talk to you soon. Here's my weekly appearance with W-O-R's, Mark Simone. I love the podcast. Steve Sharipa, that's my favorite episode. They're all good, but he's great. Thank you. We got Steve Croft coming up on Thursday. The 60 Minutes, Steve Croft? Yeah.

Oh. That should be an interesting conversation. he's an old-time reporter like I am, came up the traditional way. He was Obama's go-to guy, you may remember, on 60 Minutes. I knew all the legends, Mike Wallace and Hewitt and all those guys. And, you know, CBS in the news now, a lot of changes going on. So I'm looking forward to that, chat. You used to work there at CBS News.

And back then it was a kind of a rational, sane, place, wasn't it? Yeah, I mean, it was always intense. I worked for Channel 2 for two years with Jim Jensen and Ron Smith and Warner Wolf all those guys. And then I got promoted to the national news, Dan Rather, who I'm not particularly fond of, and covered in wars in Central America and the Falklands, things like that. So I was busy there.

But it was, I would say, it was a traditional place with problems. Well, but compared to today's CBS News, a little more normal. Do you think they'll ever get these networks back to normal? No. It's too expensive. You know, back when I was there, we used to whip around the world at first class, airfare and best hotels. and you were like James Bond.

Now it's Motel 6, and, hey, is that jet blue on time? And the answer is no. Well, but that's every business. That's most businesses. Yeah, I mean, but when you are attached to really do an honest job covering the news and you don't, then is a problem. And CBS has really gone down. Now, they're trying to bring it back, and I give them credit for that.

I don't know whether it will work or not. Now, Bill O'Reilly, the great historian, the listeners calling in questions for you. Ronald Reagan, re-election wins 49 states, unbelievable. But what was the most successful election ever? Nobody ever won 50, did they? Washington. Nobody dissented. Yeah.

And he could have been king of America. Talk about no kings. Washington could have been the king, boy, they loved them. And rightly so. There are their landslides, but Reagan that wiped out Jimmy Carter because Carter was so inefficient. On a par with Joe Biden, you know, Biden was worse because of the border. But boy, oh boy, they both terrible. And there have been a lot of terrible presidents, but these two were really, really, really,

the forefront of modern times. Now, Bill O'Reilly, would you give some advice to the Democrats? They want to go after Trump. They can't seem to put their finger on what it is that's bothering them. He's not a king. There's no king's made no sense. Well, that's the problem because no king's demonstration was really a no solutions demonstration. That's what it was.

So we don't like Trump. Okay. I understand. And dissent is fine. and it's a strength of our country. We should be able to protest and responsibly. But if you're going to hate the guy and think he's the worst, then what do you have that's better?

So the best example is that according to just about every nuclear expert in the world, Iran was very close to enriching uranium to the level, where it could have manufactured a nuke very quickly. Well, what's the Democratic Party's solution to that? Nothing. Nothing. And what's your solution to controlling immigration, give an amnesty? And that's Trump's strongest card going into the midterms.

So you may not like them and you may not support the Iran war. Although if you don't support it, you really should have a reason. reason. Not just I hate Trump, Trump's war. But what are you replacing Trump with? What is a Democratic Congress going to deliver? It's going to deliver higher taxes. It's going to try to get amnesty for all the millions of undocumented people that are here with some exceptions. But you really have to be a miscreant for the Democrats that turn on you if you're an illegal alien. You really got to be bad. Trump is on.

Is this what you want? And that's why the Democratic Party really, they think that they're going to sweep, but I'm not so sure about that. Yeah. It's months and months and months away. Anything could happen. So, hey, you're a Nassau County resident.

Bruce Blakeman, great county executive. He's coming up in the polls. He's closing the gap with Kathy Hockel. I think he's got a good chance. What do you think? Yeah, I do. I just got to get this funding thing, and that'll go to federal court if they deny them in Albany the funding, because they did make a clerical error. The Blakman campaign did.

But I don't think you can alter an election, financing of election for a clerical error that has been corrected. And if the Democrats, you know, said, no, you're not getting any matching funds. I think I have to go to federal court and Blakeman will win. The problem that Blakeman has is that people in New York don't know him. And still to this day, I mean, you go north of Duchess County, then people don't know, Bruce Blakeman. And he's got to buy that. He's got to get on television and establish himself.

The advantage he has is Hokal, because Hokal is now tied to Mandami. and she wants to get away from him, but she's not going to be able to do that. And the worst it gets in the city, the worse is going to get for Hoke. Yeah. So, Blakeman could be, this could be a very Pataki-like race. We didn't know him either, but he just looked more genuine, more authentic, and people loved him as they got to know him. So I could see that happening here.

What do you think? Well, it just depends on New Yorker's tolerance for pain. You know, how much pain do we have to? to experience here with this democratic one-party leadership. And it's, you know, people are fleeing. Everybody knows that. The big money's going south. The budget deficit is insane.

Mandami is confused. He's 34 years old. He can't run the city. It's going to get worse and worse and worse. He's making every mistake you could possibly make. He's outlying himself with the most radical elements. He himself is a communist. And he is.

You know, all you have to do is look at the estate tax and what he wants to take away from hardworking Americans who save their money and want to pass it along to their family, to their heirs. He wants to take it all. That's another thing. The pandemic wants to take it all. Yeah. That's communism.

And so it did the people of New York State, a lot of them are distracted. A lot of them are poor. and they want the handouts above all else. And I don't mean to diminish poor people, but come on. We all know what's going on there. And how much pain do you want to absorb? And, you know, I hate going into that city now. I used to love it.

I got to go tomorrow into the city. You know, it's dirty. I don't feel threatened. I mean, you know, when I'm walking around, but I'm not walking around late at night. but is marijuana smoke on every block, you know, kids got to look at these indignities of people on a street doing all this crazy stuff. It's going to get worse.

So that's the key question in November. How much pain do you want to absorb to keep the democratic structure in place? Well, hey, the Trump presidential library has been announced it'll be Miami. If this were 10 years ago, wouldn't you think? I think he'd want that library in New York, but now he can't do it because of the crazy left-wing controlling. No, if he does it, it'll be indicted for whatever it may be. He's got five exits and you need eight, so it's like it into federal court. Look, Donald Trump epitomizes New York.

He epitomizes the swagger of the city. I wrote a book called The United States of Trump that demonstrated how he did what he did as far as building himself off. to this unbelievable real estate colossus when his father didn't want any part of it. The guy is a quintessential New Yorker, and now he can't come here. There's something wrong about that. Hey, even in California, there's an exodus from there. Biggest drop in population have experienced in many, many years. So I assume we can blame Gavin Newsom for that, correct?

Well, I did a special this week on San Francisco and the collapse of it. It's on Bill O'Reilly.com. It's harrowing. Absolutely harrowing. And it's mirrored on L.A. County. San Francisco is a smaller situation and a 40,000 drug addict substance abusers running around causing all kinds of problems there in a certain area. So you're overwhelmed, whereas L.A. County's biggest county in the country, it's spread out, but it's the same problem. No law enforcement. When you have that kind of anarchy, people feel afraid. And if you get in trouble in L.A. County, prosecutors won't bring the cases. Hug addicts running around San Francisco, it's ruined the city. You got to watch that, Simone. It's really something. You go to billow-orreilly.com,

just punch it right up. And there I am in the middle of the tenderloin district, you know, spelling it out for you. It should never happen in America. Stuff like that should never happen in this country. Thanks for being with us. Listen to me as I join News Nation. Phil, good to see you. Thanks for being here. Thanks for having me, Katie. Great to see you. So your special is called The Decline and Fall of San Francisco.

For those who haven't seen it yet, what's the biggest takeaway about the city's failures and your experience covering this? And does it also include, you know, can need this be applied to other cities we're seeing around the country? Well, it's 40,000 drug addicts running wild in that town doing exactly what they want to do. the city of San Francisco is paying them to do it. So the rate of homelessness in San Francisco, which, according to a Harvard study, is about 85 percent drug addicted, they get money. They get debit cards in the name of humanity and compassion. And so they migrate to the city and have destroyed the inner core. And it should never, ever be happening in the United States of America.

This is horrible. And it's not compassion to allow people to kill themselves out on the street. That's not compassionate. Yeah, we've seen policies in other cities that end that. Of course, domestic priorities for President Trump continue to be a focus, bringing down the cost of living as something that he's been talking about, he's something promised to do on the campaign trail, making America's streets safer. But of course, the attention on the war in Iran is taking up a lot of significant time and briefings,

other public events. He's asked about this, of course, every time he, does a gaggle with reporters. Today, the president suggested, and you talked about the European allies. Last time you're on the show, had some choice words that I agreed with. He suggested the European allies go get their own oil rather than relying on the U.S. to continue fighting battles in which they have an interest. What do you make of that statement? And is it time that the people who benefit the most from the Strait of Hormuz being open go in and get the oil? Well, let's take a look at what's going to happen tomorrow night because it'll be very interesting. I'm just saying. President Trump, I've known him 35 years. He doesn't deliver bad news like this.

So you can expect a positive speech tomorrow at 9 Eastern. He's not going to go in and say, hey, we screwed up. It isn't working out. We're not getting what we want. That's not happening. So the president will put a positive face on the situation. He'll run down his greatest hits, like he always does. You've heard it before, but he'll reiterate.

And then he'll pivot. I'm not sure what the Iranians have agreed to, but they've agreed to something. So he's not going to go on and say, hey, I don't have anything. Thanks for watching. And now back to different strokes. He's not going to do that. So the Iranians agreed to something. but it'll probably leak out tomorrow

and say around mid-afternoon what that something is. Now, as far as NATO is concerned, that alliance is shattered. It's like Humpty Dumpty. Nobody's going to put it back together again. It's over. The president expected some support, and NATO let him down,

particularly Spain. If it were me, I'd try to get Spain out of NATO. because they denied landing rights to U.S. air power. And they have no reason to do that, Spain. But they did it out of spite because it's a socialist country. And they don't pay their dues like everybody else does for NATO. Why do we need Spain? Yeah.

Why? Bill, actually on that question, on that issue, I want to follow up on that on a different topic but related, because we're seeing this play out in real time where our NATO allies are not allowing us to use our bases or their bases when we need them in a crisis. The president has made the case

that this is why the United States should be in charge of Greenland, and then the NATO partners have come in and said, no, we reassure you that you'll be allowed to use spaces in Greenland whenever you need to should there be a defensive cause against Russia and China and the Arctic. Does that fall apart now

as a result of what we're seeing in the Middle East? I don't expect to hear any of that. Not tomorrow, but I mean generally, more broadly, not just tomorrow night. I think the Greenland thing is receded because it just didn't make any sense. We can use Denmark's territory. Denmark's not going to object to it. We'll see. Yeah.

They're not going to object to it. they're dependent on us for their defense. And NATO is a very interesting animal because none of these countries coordinate with one another. They don't like each other. The Germans don't like the French. The French don't like the bell.

It's on and on and on and on. I mean, it's not like this is one block. And they all don't like President Trump. The last time you said the Germans were the worst. The prime minister. They are the worst. because we are dependent upon them because they're so close to Putin. And they don't care.

Look, when you have a threat that could blow up Europe, and I know people don't want to believe it, I wrote a message of the day. It'll be on bill o'Reilly.com tomorrow morning. People believe what they want to believe, Katie. And they don't want to believe that Iran is capable of launching a nuke. They don't want to believe it. And they do want to believe that Trump's the devil.

So that's what they do. There's no rationality here. But just in a cautious realm, why wouldn't you back the USA in this? We're doing all the heavy lifting along with Israel. You're not doing anything. Emer winning. Yeah, why wouldn't you back us? Right.

Because the more you back us, the quicker it's over. And the quicker the gas prices come down, which I think the president will emphasize tomorrow. because his problem is the U.S. voter. And the U.S. voter, you know, look, it's a 50-50 split, I think, among people who hate Trump and among people who like him. And the midterms loom. So I think that he's going to wrap that bow up. But he has to do it before he goes to China.

Remember, he's supposed to visit Beijing in the middle of April. And the Chinese are big in this. You don't hear from them. But they're big in this whole thing because they need that oil coming through Hormuz. China gets 80 percent of its oil from the Gulf, and they can't have it closed down. And that's a big factor. Yeah, on the issue of China, there's been a lot of talk, of course, about getting the Strait of Hormuz open. There's been a lot of hand-wringing in the media about this being a major crisis.

The president thinks it is, obviously. However, when you look at it, it seems the people who benefit the least from it being closed are the Iranians and China on top of China's oil getting cut off and the discounts taken away from the Venezuela raid with Maduro. So is this actually more beneficial to the U.S. strategy in squeezing the regime into a deal than we would think given the media coverage? I think in the end it'll come down to the mullahs can stay there and the CIA will continue to undermine them, hoping that the Persian people, throw them out as they did with the shah in nineteen seventy nine and in return for them staying there wherever they are and how many of them left

they'll open the straits i think that's probably going to be the essence of the deal and then off that uh... comes lower gas prices for the world we won we took uh... the mouth they're evil and no nukes the no nukes have got to be in the forefront of any deal.

Have to be. Yeah. Well, we've heard the president, you mentioned the midterms, say that, look, politics, of course, important. Polling is important, but sometimes you have to do the right thing, regardless of what the popularity it is. So maybe he'll address that tomorrow night. I want to switch gears before you let you go, Bill. And your special, you highlight the issue of drug abuse.

Prescription medications, of course, were a factor, rather, in Tiger Woods accident in DUI arrest last week. What do you make of this latest situation and the broader problem in America? we have with this issue. Well, Tiger Woods is a drug addict. He admitted it tonight. He's going to rehab. And I hope, and I would encourage every American to hope that he gets well because he's

a danger to himself and others. So we live in a culture that celebrates the destruction of the famous, which is one of the bad things about the United States. We'd love to see famous people get taken down. I don't know what that mentality is, but I'm hoping that Mr. Woods. cleans it up. As far as the other addiction problem that we have, it is, there's only one solution, and that is therapeutic areas where drug addicts who are on the street, not under supervision, are forced mandatory to go there for their own good. You know, there are narcotics now that

block opiate addiction. They block it. So you don't have to do withdrawal. You don't do it. You don't People in San Francisco wanted to be there. They want to kill themselves. Talk to them. They don't care whether they live or die. Did you know that the city of San Francisco spends more than $100,000 on each of these homeless people a year? So what do you do with them, though?

If they don't care if they live or die, I mean, what is the state supposed to do, given the homelessness industrial complex and all the tax money that's gotten towards this issue, and it's gotten worse, not and better? Yeah, because they knew it in a wrong way. You take that money, you build therapeutic centers, okay, and you force these people to go there. They have no right to do this.

They break every law in the world. That's for sure. They don't have the right to do it in public. Bill, we got around, but I want to ask you one more question. One more question quickly about the media's duty to report the news accurately. There was a story yesterday in the Daily Mail that completely botched developments in the murder trial of the man accused of killing Charlie. Kirk. Of course, this doesn't only violate public trust, journalistic ethics, but it also creates unhinged conspiracies and can actually interfere in a trial. I just wanted to get your

response to that false headline. Justice Department has looked at all of those conspiracies. They say there's nothing to any of them. There have always been penny dreadfuls. You know what a penny dreadful is, Katie? I don't think I do. Educate me, Bill. Okay. It's a tabloid sheet. It originated in England, and they called them Penny Dreadfuls. Where they'll print anything? Yes. And I think the publication you just named falls into that category, along with a lot of other publications. Yes. Indeed. People believe what they want to believe.

Well, I think the facts in a murder trial are pretty important. Accuracy is crucial when it comes to a trial that has not happened yet. Bill O'Reilly, thank you for sharing your thoughts and spending some time with us on a variety of topics. We appreciate it. See you soon. Please join me and Sid Rosenberg on WabC. Radio. We're in really big trouble, folks. And Bill O'Reilly's been talking about it for a long time

between a lack of religion and the media and other things. And Bill, I got to tell you, we are really at a point, at least in my lifetime, if God is good to me, I'll be 59 April the 19th that I've never seen. A lot of people have lost their way. There's no doubt about it. And there's a combination of reasons why. Poor parenting is number one. Number two is public schools that provide no perspective on life. I mean, I'm going to have to rewrite my book, Not Confronting Evil, after, you know, the Iranian thing, which is so clearly the right thing to do. and you never get that debate. So you never get the people who object to Trump or the military action saying, oh, no, let them have a nuke.

But they hide behind, and they, the dissenters. They hide behind, oh, well, we don't trust them, or we don't do this, or we don't do that. And you look at them and you say, okay, so then shut up. up. You don't know, and you don't. Why are you protesting? Why are you out there? Now, in a Providence, Rhode Island thing, what you have in New England is a very hardcore woke culture, even worse in California. And a lot of the woke has disappeared or it's on the downslide. not there.

And they don't want to be reminded of violent crime. Not here either, by the way, sorry. Not what? Not here either. Yeah, but I think New Yorkers, let me disagree with you a little bit on that. I think that most people reading the verdict of this family, because that's who basically is affected by this. was sympathetic to the family in New York.

I just can't imagine people running around celebrating that this guy who was a known violent gangster didn't get the full boot. Well, I'll tell you this. The mayor is on record visiting a man who plunged at a cop with a knife in the hospital. The mayor is on record visiting inmates at Rikers Island who committed violent crimes. And I know the mayor doesn't speak for everybody.

He didn't get 80% of the vote, but he got about half. And he is very, very happy protecting and hanging out with criminals. So I'm not sure why you disagree with me, because it seems to me I live in a city and a state where much like Wu and Boston and much like Johnson and Chicago and Newsom and Batson, Los Angeles, that seems to be the trend. But do you really believe if you went out today, and discuss with people on the streets of New York, most people would agree with that first?

Depends where you are. If you're in my neighborhood in Rockaway, no. If you're in Nashville County, no. But if I walked in Williamsburg or the Upper East Side or the Upper West Side, 100%. You don't know about it. Maybe they don't. But 100%, they'd be, yeah, he didn't deserve that. Yeah, I don't know about that, shit.

I mean, I know you. Well, we'll tell me, how is there any other explanation that this creep won. I know that Curtis Slee were not exactly... It was a technical verdict. And the defense lawyer, who's a real boy, oh boy, this guy. No, I'm not talking about the verdict. How did this mayor win?

I mean, I know that Cuomo and Slee won Adams, not exactly... No, that's all about money. That was about a welfare state, a growing welfare state, where people say, look, I don't care about anything else but entitlements. Just give me stuff. and this guy is going to give me stuff and the other guys are,

so I want to vote for this guy. That's why he won't. It wasn't about his philosophy of life. They don't even know what his philosophy of life is. He's a communist. But they don't even know what communism is. They don't know what that is. So you're talking about an enormous ignorance

on the part of a lot of Americans. They don't take the time to understand the system who's running, what the ultimate goal is. But when I saw that verdict come in, and we stood outside that church in Mass. We remember that. Well, we actually not only stood outside that church,

but me, you, Danielle, Peter King, and Rosemary sat together inside that church. Inside the church. And we saw the pain. And we saw the congregation in Mass. speak well. And we saw all of it. We were there. And then this

is a technicality. And the jury is basically saying, well, don't worry about it. We convicted of all of this, so he's not going to get out of prison anyway. Maybe that's true, and maybe it isn't. Okay, but the symbolic verdict is yeah, the lawyer

did this and it wasn't maybe he didn't wake up and wanting to shoot a cop and all. all that. But it really doesn't matters because of you and me, we're in the jury room, I think you we would have persuaded the others

that, look, you had a guy who basically got up in the morning and maybe he didn't say, I'm going to kill a cop, but he put a gun in his belt. That's the bottom line. If you're leaving your house, and by the way, you've got 21 priors, you're a bad guy, you're a criminal.

With a loaded gun, there's a chance of going to use that gun. And as Greg Jared said, not that long ago, in terms of premeditation, premeditation, there's no time on that. It could even come down to sometimes minutes or seconds. You're a criminal. You leave your house with a loaded gun. To me, that's intent. And me too.

So now we're back agreeing that we're 12 angry men in the jury room, which was a phenomenal movie. Yes, it was. we persuade the others that, okay, why are you willing to let a technicality override justice? That's a pretty simple question. It really is. And I got like people, Bo Dito's been texting me all morning long, that there are people out there that say because of whole goal. And really, Andrew Cuomo, if you want to go to the real culprit here, that this cop, even if he gets, whatever he gets, I know the judge. I know his daughter.

His daughter actually ran against Anne Donnelly for D.A. on Long Island, Nicole. The father, Michael, is a pretty well-respected big-time judge in New York or the big-time lawyers know him. And even if he lowers the boom on this guy, there's a healthy percentage of New Yorkers that are beautiful because of Cuomo, that cop killers, they get out big time, 44, but out 44, that this guy will do 20 years and he'll be back on the streets. That is a healthy fear in New York this morning. Well, I don't know about that as all speculation, but I do know justice was not served. Agreed. And not only even, and not for you and I, but like you said, Bill, and you nailed it. But, but Stephanie, right, but Stephanie and Ryan, that's right. Right, the family.

Yeah. So, you know, there's no two, there's no two chances here. You murdered, and I believe that's true, a human being who had a baby. baby and a wife and a family, and he went to my local high school, St. Mary's. Wow. And you murdered him. And now we're discussing whether it should be 40 or 30 or no. Never again should the guy step out of president, ever.

Do you believe, I don't even know this. I should know this because you're the greatest stubborn. We're very close. You went high, bud. I don't know. Do you believe in a death penalty? No. No.

No. Because if I'm in charge, you wish you were dead. You see what I'm talking about? I do, I do. But it's just a part of me, and I always go back to the same argument. I don't like the fact that my hard-earned money, I get up at 3 o'clock in the morning. I'm very tired. That my hard-earned money goes to feeding this guy and clothing this guy.

Yeah, I mean, there's a practicality, but my philosophy is the state, and I don't believe in abortion either. the state should not have the right to terminate somebody's life. However, you can impose justice. And so if, for me, I set up a system where the heinous or most heinous criminals do a life of hard labor. And believe me, you'd want to die. I would take that. So is this coming from, you mentioned the state, but for you, Bill O'Reilly, this comes from a more religious place.

You don't believe. It's absolutely the doctrine that only the creator has the moral authority to create a life or end a life. Well, that's interesting because I guess Guy Rivera didn't get that note, I guess. You know, everybody has their own belief system.

I don't disparage people who, you know, as Holy Thursday, as you pointed out and pass over. I never disparaged people who disagree with me on any of these issues. In fact, I admire, I admire even Muslims or, you know, Shintos or whoever may be as long as you're a good person. The problem that we have now in this country, and you saw it last night with Trump's speech, is that you have an equivocation of what is right and what is wrong. As I said, nobody in their right mind supports Iran having a weapon that could wipe out hundreds of thousands of people.

Who in their right mind would support that? I mean, I don't know anybody who does, but they're not willing to take the action to prevent it. Yeah, but the detractors aren't talking about that. The detractors aren't, they would agree with it. Because they can't talk about it, sit. Well, no, they claim that we've been hearing about this nuclear stuff for years and years and years. This is about Israel. It's about oil.

It's about money. It's about everything else but nuclear. Well, then, I mean, I destroy those people on television and radio. And I look at them, I go, are you telling me that the Iranian government did not have the capacity of rich uranium? Is that what you're saying? They're going to say, I've been hearing this for a long time. I haven't seen the bomb drop yet, but I know the BB's pissed off. I know that.

Well, look, that's just a... a fifth-grade answer. Okay? I mean, you look at them and you go, look, when the United Nations weapons inspectors say that they're very close to having this device, it kill hundreds of thousands of people

and you, because you don't want to pay a buck more at the gas pump, or you hate Trump's hair or whatever it is that you're neurosis? Or you're anti-Semite, and you really do believe that we do all this because of Israel. Yeah, I know.

That's paranoid. delusion and then and you know you the the American people right now are in in a bad way because of the decline of religion not and and here's what religion does and it doesn't matter what religion it really is all right it sets a boundary this is right and this is wrong I mean Moses is running around he got a big long beard he looks like Charlton Heston. He's standing up there with the big tablets. Well, why do you think he had the big tablets? Because somebody

had to say, hey, this is what you can do, and this is what you can't do. That's simple. And then when you have a rising 30% of Americans now, don't believe in anything. Okay, but nothing. All right, there's no right and no wrong. If I want to lie, cheat, and steal,

I can do that because there's no God, so I'm not going to pay any price for it, so I'm going to go out and do whatever I want to do. When you have that rise in there's nothing wrong, because it's me, if I do it, it's okay, then anarchy creeps in. That's what I did in San Francisco a couple of weeks ago. That's special. In San Francisco, they won't enforce the law. so a guy can come up and beat the hell out of you, take all your stuff, spit in your kids' face,

and the criminal justice apparatus goes, Matt, we don't care. We're not going to do anything to the guy. And religion forbids that, okay? Religion says, no, this is what you can't do. And Americans don't want to hear it. And Europeans are worse. They're worse. I mean, they just flouts around going, where, where's my check?

Give me my, I want my check today. That's all, I don't, am I going to church? Am I going to synagogue? I want a check. Send me money. Listen, you're right. And that's why I started this conversation with exactly what you just talked about. I served it up to you.

And you just said out of the ballpark, the bigger question, Bill O'Reilly is, how do we fix it? Well, it's a real tough fix because you go to Providence for Rhode Island, okay? And if you know the history of Providence, it was founded by a preacher, Roger Williams, who he was tired of being flogged in Massachusetts. Yeah, this flogging thing is a lot of fun. I'm going to get on my little horse and go somewhere else, okay, because he didn't buy into the period of lifestyle. So you win, and that's why it's named Providence.

And so you go there, and it's normal people that live in Providence. They're working class people, a heavy ethnic Italian, all right? And now you've got, you know, somebody who wants to honor a crime victim and remind everybody, the crime's kind of out of control, and the mayor and the idiot representative go, we can't have that here? So you would think that the people in Providence would rise up and go, no, we're going to have 18 of them, not one. We're all going to paint them now. But it doesn't happen.

No. Because people are diverted. They're on their phone. They want this. Also, I got news for you. Providence, Rhode Island has become one of the more dangerous crime-middle, not cute little of Rhode Island. It's not Newport. Okay.

No, no, I know. And it's the same thing. and it's going to happen in New York, no doubt about it in my mind, if you don't enforce the law, the criminals are going to commit more crimes. That's right. Okay, now this is third, fourth grade. Little Lenny goes,

that's right, if you don't enforce the law, you know, the third grader knows that. Right. But these people who gain power like Mamondani are so out there. They're so far gone. and now we have to pay the price for him being in charge. Yes, we do, and it's a very, very hefty price, and it's just getting started. I do want to commend because I beat her up a lot, but I'm also a very fair guy.

I think you know that, Bill, Julie Menon, who's going after him pretty good today about the latest budget. They're not going to allow him to raise property taxes 9.5%. Julie came out was very strong on that. So there were days I beat her up and taken pictures with Don Lemon, but on a day like today, I congratulate Julie Mennon for fighting back against the mayor. So in the final two minutes, I do this with you all the time because you're a fascinating guy. During Thanksgiving, you'll sit there with Spencer and the kids, and you'll read about why that day even exists. And what happened with the pilgrims and the Indians and all that good stuff?

What is the next three days, Holy Thursday, Good Friday, and Easter Sunday look like at the O'Reilly compound? It's a little chaotic here with people coming in and out. a lot of food. We stole that from our Jewish neighbors. Hey, by the way, by the way, you've got more food than the Irish people. I know. You also stole about half your religion from us, too,

but we're okay with that. We're fine. We love you. More than half. More than half. Yeah. Right. So today, I got to go to lunch with a friend that I'm going to pop into church.

And the atoning really starts tomorrow. So I got my little whip, and I'm going to be hitting myself with the whip. Not really, that's a joke. Okay? But I'll go to – I'll stop in – the Last Supper, by the way, is fascinating. Absolutely, because he had Judas at the table. Yes. And I know most people don't even bother with the Bible, but if you're interested, Judas Ascariad, who was a traitor and handed Jesus over, and this is all true.

to the temple authorities, he's a star of Holy Thursday, because Jesus looked him in the eye and goes, it would be better if you had not been born. Yes, fantastic. The ultimate backstabber, Judas. Right, right. And, you know, a lot of people, they don't even believe Jesus was a man,

which is why I wrote killing Jesus, which is a history book. It's not a religious book. And then tomorrow, on Good Friday, we can't eat anything, so I'll have a little special K in the morning. Even though I'm so old that I've outrun that. They give old guys like me a dispensation so I can have some raisinette or something.

And I'll go around midday to church. And then on Holy Saturday, we're going out, Charlie, and everybody's going. Big tap for me. I'm already trying to break this. down because when I take my family out for dinner, everybody has appetizers and dessert. Sounds like us.

End dessert. Yeah, it sounds like us. Okay? That's probably the same with you. It is the same. It's sitting in O'Reilly. I mean, yes, I would like four appetizers please. Yeah. I did that with you. We go to Pito Lugo together once you

take me into the Peeleuco on Long Island once in a while and I load up on appetizers and dessert and you know, you give me the look like, really? I go, Yes, Bill. Really? Yeah. And then on Easter, I'll go to early Mass on Easter because there are so many Catholics who don't go to Mass except on Christmas and Easter. That's the only time they go.

Yeah. And they're coughing and they're falling down. And, you know, they're so. What? It's not really good. They're jammed in there. and if there's a four in the morning mass, I'll go, and I'll offer it up to sit. I go, sits up every day.

I can, I can deal. And I got tickets for Yankees, Mets, and May for you, me, and the urchins. Oh, wow. Really? Yeah. I'm excited about that. That's awesome. Last time you and I, you took me to a Met game, we was a great time.

We lost. I think every time I go with you, we lose. But we ended up having dinner that night. with the great actor Matthew Modin and the other great actor Eric Stultz. They love you. Yeah. Yeah, that was fun.

And I made Modine dress in the full metal jacket helmet. Yes, you did. And Stevie Cohen always finds a way. He always finds you. Whenever you're in that dining room with me, Steve Cohen always finds you. It's amazing.

Amazing. It should be a fun night. So just put that down. I think it's a 15th of May. I know you're very busy. And no napping this time. Usually, Sid, he naps about from the fourth to the sixth inning

because he's off to, you know, you know, is it asleep? Is that possibly? It's cost $18,000. That's why. That's because Tong is out there giving up eight runs to the Rangers in the first inning. Anyway, I want you to enjoy

Passover with your family and all of WABC listeners, no matter what you celebrate. Try to relax. Things will turn better. I'm very confident that in America things are going to turn better. We're setting ourselves up, I think, for economic prosperity here. I think Iran is two or three weeks more of this madness. And that don't mean a lot.

That'll mean a lot. So I'm taking an optimistic viewpoint here. And I will dress up like Charlton Heston if you see me. It's not Charleston. He passed. it's me. Okay. I'm going to take you up on that, by the way, Bill.

So enjoy your Easter with your beautiful family, and they all that. Thank you for the kind words today, and we'll talk again very, very soon. You're the best. You really are the best. I love you. Thank you. Thank you for joining us. Become a Bill O'Reilly.com premium member today.

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