Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - O'Round the World - February 8, 2026

Episode Date: February 8, 2026

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Bill O'Reilly here. Let's get started. So you know James Carville, right? He's a very dedicated Democrat. And he's been around for a long time. I think James, at this point is 110 years old. And he's very concerned that the Democratic Party is not going to prosper anytime soon. Carville despises Donald Trump. You know, you know what the drill is. So Carville goes on. You've got to give him credit. He isn't shy away from venues that disagree with him. He goes on with Raymond Oroyo.

I think that's Laura Ingraham's friend, who does a conservative podcast. And Oroyo asks Carville, well, who is going to emerge as the leader of the Democratic Party? Because there really isn't one now. Will it tape. So who's the Democrat that you see who can carry the flag into 2028? Kamala Harris? No. AOC? No. If I had to say one guy, I really don't know him very superficially,

but if I were like betting the Kentucky Derby and I saw this 12 to one horse and I said, yeah, I want to get a price. I take J.B. Prisker. Really? Why? Well, first part. She's black. She has no chance. Why not? Because no Democrat wants anything to do with anybody that had anything to do with 2024? J. B. Pritzker. I surprised me. He's the worst governor in the country. He is.

I'm not kidding. He's the worst. But Carval doesn't see it that way. But let me back up my evaluation of Governor Pritzker. So he came into office on January 14, 2019. He's been in office for eight years in Illinois. At the time he came in, the Illinois state debt was $36 billion. $36 billion.

Okay? Today, Illinois owes $223 billion. Are you blank and kidding me? 500% increase in the state debt under Governor Pritzker. I don't know how you do it. I don't know how that happens. And in addition to all of the spending, 420,000 Illinois residents out of there under his watch.

So he spends all his money and almost a half million people leave because they're taxed up to here. And even though they're taxed up to year, they still owe all the money. So the money is wasted. Now, here's the kicker. Chicago, the third largest city in the country, has seen 4,425 human beings murdered since we're Pritzker became governor. 4,425

murder. And he's Carvel's pick to lead the Democratic Party? Now, if you're a Republican, you're happy as hell. Yeah, we want more J.B. Now, to me, and this is not

personal, I've never met Governor Pritzker. I'm a guy that goes by the facts. I go by the score on the field. This is the worst record I have ever seen of any governor, of any state at any time in our history. Okay. So I just extrapolate the data and say, hey, J.B., you're the worst governor in a country. Am I wrong? Okay, even if you're a Democrat, liberal, am I wrong?

This is a catastrophe. Illinois, if you have not been there, it's a nice state. It's a land of Lincoln. Chicago, very vibrant city. Very vibrant. Okay? Totally out of control.

Drug gangs are the reason. J.B. knows it. I don't care. And I say that literally. If I'm governor of Illinois, I can guarantee you that murder rate, would be cut by 80%. I'd flood the zone with cops where these killings are taking place,

because they're not taking place all through the area of Cook County. They're in certain drug-infested places. You flood the zone. That's what Trump did in D.C. He brings in the guard, and he puts the guard in the neighborhoods where all the crime is, and then all of a sudden the crime stops, and the DC rate, crime rate in total, falls big time. This isn't hard. This is not hard. J.B. won't do it? No.

So, why won't he do it? The one reporter actually asked him. Go. You're going to hear people, especially past weekend, 54 shot, seven dead. Yeah. They're going to say the city's not safe. Would you ask your friends to ride the L after midnight or after, you know, nine o'clock at night even to come down to the city from O'Hare? Look, big cities have crime.

There's no doubt about it. But let's just pay attention to what President Trump is doing targeting Chicago. He's overlooking red states that have much higher crime rates, much higher. A bunch of nonsense. This is what about? What about? What about? What about?

Not, gee, I wish I were a better governor so I could prevent human beings are murdered. No, no, it's Trump. See, he can't explain it. He has no solution. He knows what the solutions are, but he won't do it because he's a far-left guy and that might alienate liberal people who would vote for him. That's why, because you'd have to put the cops flood into the African American precincts. That's where most of the crime happens.

And he don't want to do it. But I love this what aboutism. Oh, yeah, Trump is all no. Bluice red states of a horror. What do you crap? You got 5,000 dead under you. It's a matter with you. And there's Carvel.

I mean, I'm not a part of it. guy, I want to wrap this up by telling you that. I think both parties are foolish, and they're foolish because they pander instead of being bold problem solvers, both sides. They pander for votes. They try to buy votes. I don't want to do anything. I don't want to have anything to do with that. I'm a registered independent. Okay, I vote for the best problem solver. I don't care what party they're in. It could be the Whig party. It could be the mugwumps. Okay, if I see a person that has a solution to a problem, they get my vote. Okay?

So this is not a partisan analysis, but I will state again, based on the facts. Gabriel Pritzker is the worst governor in the United States of America. And Gavin Newsom goes, oh, thank God. So I'm on my way to the Super Bowl in California, the Bay Area, Santa Clara, Santa Clara. is a stadium, I'll be staying in San Francisco. They love me there, you know that. I'm like Joe DiMaggio in San Francisco. They just love me so much.

Robin Williams. All right, so look, I got data that you're not going to believe. Now, the Super Bowl is the apex, the highest point of capitalism in the world. So, the event is so enormous now. that people gouge my airline ticket from New York to San Francisco is five times, five times what it would be next week after the game. Okay, Super Bowl 60, Sunday kickoff 630 Eastern Time, 3.30 Central. Ready for this? The highest ticket on Vividest seat secondary market to watch the Super Bowl in person, $30,000.

No. The lowest ticket, $4,000. Okay. The University of North Carolina State College of Natural Resources says the entire week, Super Bowl week will generate $1 billion for all concerned. My God. You want to go to the game. You want to park?

$250. The park. You want a beer? $11. A hot dog? $7. Pizza, one slice. $8.

And it's not even good pizza. I'm sorry, Santa Clara. Okay. This is not Little Italy, New York. Garlic fries. Why would anybody? 850 nachos

and you drip it all over yourself you know that happens six bucks that's at the stadium so after you pay you $30,000 you got to add in snacks the average price

in downtown San Francisco for a hotel is usually about $500 a night for a nice hotel upscale hotel ready $2,300 a night.

One night? $2,300. No breakfast. No, no, I'm not giving you anything. It's so high I might bunk with the homeless. I might get into one of the tents there. Probably not, but I'm thinking about it. What else we got here?

The winning team, each player gets $180,000. The loser, $100,000. You want a T-shirt, Super Bowl T-shirt? Now, these are made in Vietnam or something. This thin, 50 bucks. You want a hat? $35. But here's the kicker.

American Gaming Association says that almost $2 billion, $2 billion, will be bet on the Super Bowl. game. That will be a 30% increase, according to ESPN, from the game last year. Now, the Seattle Seahawks are favored to win the game. I think it's four and a half. You're giving it Pats. And I'll analyze a moment, but this is not really a sports thing. I mean, you're plenty people do that. I know the game. I know what's going on. Boston is my second home. Many of you know, I went to school there, Boston, you in Harvard. And then I work local news in Boston at the CBS and ABC affiliates.

So I love the town, even though it's crazy left. I mean, it's just a great place. It's not great right now in the early February. It's a little chilly, but so is Long Island where I am I now. Okay. So I like the Super Bowl. I like the whole thing because it, brings people together. Now you got a bad bunny situation where this guy gets a music award and he

goes off on ice and okay fine the malevolent rabbit doesn't like ice okay but if he starts that in the Super Bowl show halftime show going to be problems. I know for a fact that the national Football League has told Bad Bunny's record label and management that better not happen. Now, what can they do? It's live. They can't do anything other than pull Bad Bunny's Mike and they're not going to do that. But very serious conversations have taken place. That just sing the songs, we don't want a divisive political situation develop at halftime. which makes perfect sense because the worthiness of this and i i'm a capitalist no doubt but i don't like price gaugers at all in any way so i think that's perverting capitalism

healthy profit fine gouging no but anyway the game brings people together not only in the stadium but all over the world people get parties and they go and they have a good time and all of that. So it's very positive, in my opinion, the whole thing. We have on bill o'Reilly.com a very interesting interview with Joe Namath, Super Bowl 3, biggest upset in Super Bowl history. And Namath is a friend of mine. He's just a great guy, 82 years old, and he takes us inside the tremendous pressure on the players and really what happens. Okay? It's fascinating.

That's bill o'Reilly.com. Just go there, boom. You don't have to join anything. It's there. Final thing. The Seattle Seahawks have better skilled players than the New England Patriots. Pitchers are very young team.

Okay. Now, again, I'm Boston guy, so I got to move for them. But the Patriots, can't match up with the Seahawks in skill positions. And the Seahawks are faster. They run faster. They're a faster team.

However, it's all on Sam Darnold, the quarterback for the Seahawks. If he plays as well as he did against the Rams to get to the game, it's going to be tough for New England to win. Donald was really on it. throws a nice ball. But if the Patriots who are fierce under Rayble, the coach, they smash him in the head and they're getting in there. And Donald Wavers, anything could happen.

Tough bet. You guys are going to bet. Boy, oh boy, one or two turnovers, everything blows up. We bring in the man who first truly understood the immigration debate in the culture war. Bill O'Reilly, host of the no-spin news, Bill O'Reilly.com. Bill, it is good to see you as always. Twenty years later, has anything materially changed in the immigration debate? No, it's good to see me waxing my friend Roldo Rivera 19 years ago. And just so people don't understand what that debate was about, we were talking about criminal aliens. We were

talking about people who were allowed in this country who killed Americans. And the case that was Heraldo and I were speaking about was a drunk driving case. The guy should not have been here. Etoxicated kills an American. O'Roldo goes, no, it's not fair to point that out because you're demonizing the peaceful people, which is exactly where we are today. I thought this was all going to end when Barack Obama became president. Because Mr. Obama, as we've run on News Nation and other networks was very, very against the open borders and amnesty for undocumented migrants. He made it quite clear that was not going to happen under his term. Not a peep from the Democratic Party.

No dissent. Nothing. In fact, about 39 people died in federal custody. Immigrants died on the Obama watch. 31. I don't want to correct you. I think that number is about 53, but yes. Well, what I'm saying is directly, and there's a lot of indirect stuff, but whatever the number may be, it was high.

And Barack Obama only got criticized when he separated families, and he got a little criticism for that, but not a lot. So then you flash forward to Donald Trump. And it's not about illegal immigration any longer. It's about finding an issue that will deliver the midterms to the Democrats. And the Democrats believe that the economy is a little too wobbly now. It could go Trump's way. And gas prices are coming down, all of that. But this one with the ice, you can see it on television.

There is brutality. There are mistakes being made. But step back. when you're hunting between 10 and 15 million people, there are going to be some mistakes. And people don't understand between a judicial warrant and a government warrant. They don't know that many of these so-called peaceful migrants,

non-criminal violence, have not shown up for their hearings. They don't know that. They don't know anything because the media doesn't report it. But the Democrats right now believe that they have an issue that will give them the midterms. And they're going to slam it. And that's what's going on with Epstein, too. They're fervently praying that something will arise from all of this Epstein thing so they can ram it down Trump's throat.

And that's where we are in the news cycle. Isn't it pitiful? It really is pitiful. Well, it's also sad. I don't think anything's going to come out of the Epstein files either way. We actually have some new reporting. You won't hear anywhere other than News Nation coming up in the next block on Epstein. But I think if we just stick on this immigration debate, the obvious point would be, and I think I make,

I made this at the end of the monologue is that there is a solution. Barack Obama, I guess, could have had some kind of, you know, immigration reform. I almost said comprehensive immigration reform, which was what George W. Bush started saying back in the early 2000s. I was still in college. But then you go through Obama. Trump comes in 2017. There was not really a huge push to come up with some kind of compromise. I think what you're saying is that my monologue was right. Is that for both sides. This was a great issue for Republicans in 24. It's going to be what Democrats think is a great issue in 2026.

That immigration is far more of a culture war issue that never is going to be solved than a policy issue that both sides should want to bring help to the American people on. You could certainly have Congress passed new immigration legislation, and it's way overdue in 1952 is the last one. Cuomo makes this point fairly often that both parties issue basically to their Congresspeople and to their supporters, financial supporters. They issue bullet points, guidelines. And there is no push on the part of either party to get fair legislation into the House and Senate.

None. The sticking point for the Republicans, and Bush, the younger, got waxed on this. He got blown out on this, is amnesty. They don't want it, they won't vote for it, and that if you say, well, we're going to give the migrants this, they'll go amnesty, amnesty. On the Democratic side, it's changed a little bit. So under Obama, it was okay in force immigration law.

We won't have sanctuary cities. We don't need that. But let's be humane. Okay, that's not a bad policy, but that has changed drastically. Now, the far left, that runs a Democratic Party who says, no, everybody here stays unless they commit a crime. Everybody stays. And with that kind of no amnesty to everybody stays, you're never going to get a deal. Right.

No, and there's no incentive for some kind of compromise, right? Because the fundraising and the way our primary system now is, is that if, God forbid, anybody on either side offers to compromise, then they're going to get taken out by the extremes of their parties. I just want to acknowledge you were saying that I was made the point better than Cuomo did, right? Okay, thank you. Immigration is... Who show I'm on. Okay.

Thank you, Bell. Immigration is a top issue for voters. And I think this is an important point, right? Immigration ranks second only to the economy. You figured this out in 2005, right? Why is immigration, what is it a proxy for that is so visceral for people, that is so emotional for people? And does that mean that no one's willing to compromise? Conservative traditional Americans like the country the way it was in 1965.

I'm writing about that in my new book, Confronting America. They don't want a vast change where foreign nationals dominate the elections, the economy, whatever it may be. They want fair immigration. You go through the process. Certainly immigrants, everyone who's saying will admit, have contributed tremendously to this country. But the traditional conservative American doesn't want to be flooded. They don't want the zone flooded. Right.

So that's the skepticism there. Biden destroyed any kind of compromise by his open border policy, which was so outrageous, so many people got hurt. We'll be dealing with the repercussions of that for decades. Now they're dug in. They're dug in on the conservative side. Now, the liberal side is you... They're dug in on the Republican side, too, right? You know, if you have the whole Grammys coalescing around fight ice.

Yeah? But a good, a good Democratic leader could undig them. Conservatives, you're never going to dig them out. Is that the word of the day, undig? Extracted from their transient position. Because when you look at it, if you are going to allow every human being, and this is the beef I have with the Pope. All right?

You cannot allow every persecuted poor human being in the world to come to the land of opportunity. You can't. Because here in New York City, in California. Right. I agree with you. But let me make one more point. Let me make this point.

California elected Ronald Reagan twice. Eight years of Ronald Reagan as governor. Never could have happened today. Why? Because of all the new, mostly foreign voters who want government assistance. Reagan was not that guy, but back then, in the 1970s, California was a primarily white state. It is no longer. And the Democratic Party likes that. Yeah, is that really being fair, though? I think they're the Democratic Party,

certainly if you look at who's out there protesting, and it's normally overeducated, underpaid white liberal women. But there's a larger point. I'm not sure you're being fair here, because if you think about who moved towards Trump in the last election, it was immigrants. It was Latinos, significantly,

working-class Latinos, because they were angry about illegal immigration. and the Biden policies that you rightly point out. There's not a lot of Americans who are out there trying to get jobs by standing around on Home Depot corners and desperately just trying to work. I have friends in the construction business who cannot find legal workers to do work construction and work concrete pouring down in the heat in Texas in Florida during the summer. They say it doesn't matter how much they pay.

No whites will show up. Hispanic. So is it really fair to say that it's just immigrants who want handouts? The immigrants that came in or come in, most of them need government assistance. That's the point I was trying to make. Now, the reason Hispanic Americans broke toward Trump in the less election was because of a sense of fairness. They said, look, we did it the right way. We sacrificed. We got on the line. We did what we had to do. We obeyed. We obeyed. We did what we had to do. We obeyed. obeyed the law, immigration law and every other law. So what a minute, what's this?

That was why they went over to Trump. You really, though, say, I want, you're saying the people come to America, though, that so much of even the illegal immigration, aren't people coming to trying to make a better life, they just want to come and get on the government dole? Sure, no, they're coming to make a better life, but they need help. They don't speak the language. They don't have any skills. My relatives didn't when they showed up. They need help.

My relatives didn't, and they didn't go on the goal? Well, there wasn't any dull. When my people showed up from Ireland, you made it or you died. But now, the Democratic Party and the left wing of it, which controls the party, is basically saying, look, the more we can get people hooked onto the government assistance ban, the more votes we're going to get because the mean Republicans, they're against that. And that is definitely in play. Now how much it's hard to say.

But if you had a JFK, for example, if you had a John F. Kennedy now running for president in the Democratic Party, and his mentality was the same it was back in 1960, I think you could persuade that a democratic leader like that could persuade a lot of the Democratic liberals to reject the craziness on the left. To reject the unfairness.

To reject the danger. Well, it's Romo Manuel. The danger. Rom Emanuel now sounds like George W. Bush, though, in terms of where people are. Bill, thank you. As you pointed out, 20 years ago, this was the issue. It remains that. Bill O'Reilly, as always on Monday nights, thank you.

Bill O'Reilly, how you doing? Busy morning, just like you. And, hey, let me ask you about Don Lemon. Is this a mistake going after him? I mean, I love going after him. But is this going to create a whole new career for him, put him back at CNN? Yeah. Trump knows it.

It's not going to put him back at CNN, I don't think to hire him. But he'll get money from it, and he won't have to pay the lawyer bills. That's the key. When a radical leftist gets in trouble, particularly in a legal area, there's always groups that come in and pick up the cab. so Lemon Hires a guy named Abby Loll represents the Clintons I grew up with Abby Loll out in Levitown

And he's a very good lawyer And about $1,200 bucks an hour Yeah So let me divide this I'm talking to you for about 15 minutes So if I were Labby Lowell You'd owe him You know about 400 bucks

And But Lemons is I can pay anything to that And he'll probably be acquitted if it ever comes to a trial, which he won't. And so there's no real downside for Lemon at all. But is it going to catapult them to something higher? No. Well, but it'll revive his career a little, won't it?

Nah, I don't think so. Oh, because... Lemon's a guy who runs a podcast or a 6 trillion podcasts in the world. Anybody listening to W-O-R-Now want to listen to Don Lemons? podcast, I don't think so. You know, you've got to have the product. You know, you can get notoriety and you can get attention, but if somebody's going to devote two hours of their day to listen to Mark Simone on the radio, well, Mark Simone's going

to have to deliver a product that makes that worthwhile. And with all due respect to Don Lemon, who I have no animus about, I don't dislike him. I run it then occasionally. His product is dull. It's the same, you know, attack, attack, attack. Anybody who's conservative or doesn't agree with Don Lemon. You know, life's too short for that. Hey, if you're Bill O'Reilly and you were number one, number one anchor for 20-something years,

you can launch your own podcast. But if you're Don Lemon in third place with 200 viewers, how are you going to start your own podcast? It doesn't even make sense. You can't. It's all about expectations. So when I left Fox News, nearly nine years ago, I took with me a whole bunch of my crew over there, and we started almost immediately a news service.

So I don't do a podcast. I do a news program, and the revenues on a news program are in the tens of millions. We make a ton of money, but we deliver. Yeah. And I'll just give you a very, very vivid example. So this morning I spent a good amount of time on the phone with President Trump. Uh-oh. And the president called me because he watches the NOSPN News many evenings,

and he saw our reporting on the guy in Shanghai, China, Neville Roy Singham, who's pumping money into the far-left groups in the USA, were then paying violent protesters to go to Minneapolis, Portland, L.A., and cause trouble. So the president calls me after he sees the report and asks me to send over some of the materials that we've gathered, some of the information, which I did. Now, some journalists might not have, but I'm doing it from my country because this is insidious. You've got a foreign power, an adversary, because Singham works with Beijing, who are pumping tens of millions of dollars into the protest movement in the USA. Everybody's got to know that, and is a kicker on it.

A lot of these groups that are doing it are tax-free groups. The 501Cs. Wow. So I spoke with the president about that. That's how high level that my operation is. So if you want to compare to Don Lemon, who's sitting around in a sweatshirt telling everybody how bad Trump is,

okay, he could have the choice. Yeah, you were the first to really reveal this Neville Roy Singham being behind a lot of this, but he lives in Shanghai, he's partners with the Chinese communist government. Is that making him, is it possible to touch this guy because he's over there? He sets one foot on U.S. soil or arrest him.

Yeah, but he knows that. He knows it. Yeah. But they can't get him out of there. He's a billionaire. I'm sure he's brought his way, you know, into the Chinese bureaucracy, and he is doing very bad things to this country. And I wrote the story.

Others had mentioned it, but not at the level that we had. And the story, interestingly enough, was picked up all over the world, except by the network news in America. They totally ignored it. Why would they do that? Why would you ignore a story like this, which is enormous? Because it doesn't help in their quest to damage President Trump. So if you have outside money coming in to agitate violence about ICE and you expose that, that helps Trump.

That doesn't hurt him. And that's why they ignored the story. So guys like Soros or Singham, it's more than just trying to win the next election. They look like they're really trying to overturn America. What is motivating this? Oh, yeah. But what motivates these guys? Well, Singham is a communist.

He's a hardcore communist, self-proclaimed. Soros never really defined himself. He's 95. He doesn't have much ado. It's his son that runs it now. And they see the world in a very peculiar world. way. Open society, open this, open that, do you let everything go, don't prosecute criminals, on and on and on.

I cannot give you a definition of why they see the world that way. I'm studied the man. I know who he is. I know where he, how he got his money and all of that, but I cannot tell you why he's doing what he's doing. But I can tell you that if you live in New York City, he's responsible for Alvin Bragg, the DA in Manhattan. Yeah. So he put him into office by seating his campaign with millions and millions of dollars, and nobody could compete with that.

Hey, Bill O'Reilly, you had a long talk with the president today. I don't want you to reveal what he said, but can you reveal what advice you were giving him today? That's a tough one. Well, you don't have to. I can't really specifically tell you, and you're my pal, so I would. But we'll drop the question. We'll drop the question. very, very national security oriented.

I'll tell you this. Right now, President Trump has got to deal with Iran. Yeah. Okay? My contacts abroad, as you know, because we've discussed my trip to China. I mean, I know everybody in the world. And the reason I access is because of YouTube. So what I do a broadcast, it doesn't just go in the United States,

goes all over the world. And he knows, President Trump knows, that I have unbelievable contacts abroad. And that's what the essence of the conversation, apart from the Chinese subversion, was today on Iran. Very, very difficult situation there, very dicey. Because unlike Venezuela, Iran will fight. Not the people with the Revolutionary Guard. You'll fight. So you've got to take that into account on what the collateral damage would be to go in and try to remove these mullers by military force.

So the president, first term, very good domestic stuff and surprisingly good when you agree on foreign policy in the second term. Surprisingly good at that. Here's the problem. He's been very, very successful in foreign policy. And you might have noticed yesterday they made a deal with India. and India says, and I don't trust Modi, but he says he's not going to buy Russian oil, he's going to buy U.S. and Venezuela oil. If that happens, that's a crusher for Putin.

So the president has very successful on foreign policy. Sometimes he's too bellicose, and he alienates some of our allies, but if you just look at what's happening to the world, he's really doing a great job. But Americans don't really care about it. that's the problem. They're not going to vote that in November. They're going to vote health care costs, insurance costs, food costs. They don't know what's going on in India.

They don't know the trade deal. You can't blame them. People trying to make a living, raise families are busy, and paying attention to geopolitics. But all in all, I believe that President Trump at this point has been the most successful foreign policy president in the last 30 years. Wow. Well, you can watch Bill O'Reilly, the show. It's on, they go to Bill O'Reilly.com. And tell everybody about the YouTube channel. What can they see on your YouTube channel?

Well, we're going to go up tonight, and the only thing that's going to save the Republicans in November is that the Democrats don't have any leadership. Yeah. There's no leadership. And so I'm going to analyze the Carville statement, because Carvel has got very good Democrats. out of context. And he's pushing Pritzker, the governor of Illinois, who's been an absolute disaster. You think Newsom's bad in California? I think Hogle's bad in New York. Pritzker makes them look like successful people. So we're going to go up and do that on our YouTube channel. That'll drop tonight. Yeah, even in Congress. YouTube. It's YouTube.com slash Bill O'Reilly. It's free.

It's free. It's free. It's great stuff. You know, Hakeem Jeffries, Chuck Schumer, these are really bad inarticulate dull leaders. Even in Congress nothing going on there. Well, they'd be funnels. They really don't have any vision. But the worst and what's troubled me is Man Donnie with this 16 dead.

And he won't compel the police to bring these people in when it's two degrees to a warming center. I've never seen anything like that ever in a public policy arena. Never seen it. And if you

you listen to his press conference today, it was gibberish. It was nonsense. It was like a fifth grader. That, that, and I knew this was going to happen. A 34-year-old cannot run the city of New York. I'm sorry. And where do you see how bad it's going to get? Well, thanks for cheering us up here this morning. But, uh, hey, everybody watch. You know, you know me, no spin. Yeah. Well, watch the no spin news. Watch Bill O'Reilly show tonight. Just go to Bill O'Reilly.com. You can get the column, the TV show, the book, everything there. And make sure you watch his YouTube channel, Bill O'Reilly at YouTube, and get the book Confronting Evil.

Great stuff. Bill O'Reilly, thanks for being with us. Thanks for having me, Mark, as usual. Enjoyed it. All right, take care. Mr. Bill O'Reilly. It is good to see you, sir. You are not surprised that the president teed up health care.

You know it is something that he is seeing increasingly that he needs to deal with before the midterms. do you think what do you think the calculus is about how much of it he owns and how much of it can actually become something? Well, I agree with you that he has to lead the way, and I believe that there's going to be a summit at the White House within the next couple of months on insurance CEOs. They're all going to gather and come out with some kind of statement. And then it goes over to Congress, Schumer. and the others are going to have to fashion a bill. Remember, the legislative branch makes the laws. So if you believe that the health care industry, as I do,

is punishing the American citizen, then make a law to prevent that. That's the way it works. Amen. Do you think they'll do it, or do you think there's just too much money, too much leverage, and it's too easy to distract us with something else? I think the Republicans realize we're in danger in the midterms and that this might be able to turn it around. So I would say the odds are that there will be that summit and the House will probably write up a bill under Speaker Johnson.

But that's just a guess. It would be a good strategy for the grand old party. What did you think about Holman saying, We're pulling out 700. We're going to make sure that we're focusing on who are priorities and how. And that's that. Yes, it's being played by some on the left as a surrender, as taco. I think that is so, so wrong if you want things to get to a better place.

But what did you think of that move? Well, I had a scold Pierce Morgan today because, and I like Morgan. He had me on the program, and he did the surrender business. And I went, he's readjusting what is happening in Minneapolis, as anyone would do if the original plan was going south. I mean, come on. So Holman, I think, is doing a good job. So he goes in there, and the first thing he did was kick some serious blood. I don't know whether you know that.

But he took his commanders and said, no more. You're not to confront protesters at all. You know, walk away. and then he reorganized how the ice raids are going to go. Now, he says, and this is a mystery story, I'm trying to get it. I don't have it yet, that the local Minneapolis government is now cooperating with ice to some extent. But I don't know how, and he hasn't defined that. So what I'm told is, and you can advance it anywhere you want,

what I'm told is that the governor's office coordinated with the sheriffs, I'll write jails, the sheriffs, you know, in Minneapolis and in a lot of states. So what they're going to do is, and that's why it was a little confusing, Holman said today, look, I'm not requiring the jails to hold people for me. Why? Because it would sound like, yeah, you should. That's how sanctuary cities were born, is local municipalities holding people for too long because ICE didn't have the resources that it has now or the mandate that it has now.

And they were getting sued and losing. So that's where that is in Tom's head because he's been around. But the governor's office is supposedly getting the mayors and sheriffs to say, coordinate, find out if these detainers are there, hold them, and let them get them, which is really the way it should work. Nobody's against having people who are sitting in a jail or a prison picked up. And that's a good step. I hope it's happening.

But the other step that needs to be taken is that the Minneapolis police force, need to go out and enforce public safety. And that means standing between any ice function and protesters who would physically walk up to ice agents or use their automobiles and prevent it. And that is what led to the death of the two Minnesotans. If you had had a responsible mayor, which you don't, all right, deploying the Minneapolis police

in a line to protect whatever the ice people were doing, not participate, but just to protect the public safety and say, no, you can't cross this police line. If you do, we're going to make a local arrest. Look, these ice raids are going on in New Orleans, no problem. Memphis, no problem. All of the municipalities in the United States that the local police are providing public safety protection for the feds, we don't have any problem. We only have the problem in the cities that are in insurrection. And that's a fact.

I don't agree with insurrection, and we've talked about this. But I also think that this is, especially in Minneapolis, is uniquely heavy and aggressive. And I do understand if I were the mayor, I would not put my police up to defend you running around and grabbing the wrong people in the wrong way. I'm not going to have my police protect you going into a mayor. a church and grabbing people during mass. I'm not doing that. Here's how, here's how wrongheaded your statement was. They're not protecting anybody other than the Minneapolis protesters who are going to get hurt if they physically confront federal agents. So it's not that they're on ice people. You're talking about ice like they're Bengal tigers. Aren't they trained to deescalate? They have to shoot.

everybody who comes after him? Everybody, Bacomo, I think you're getting out of control now. My thing is this. It has to be coordinated, but Fry won't cooperate. So chaos ensued, which always happens. Holman goes in. He says, no longer are you, ICE agents, to deal with the individual protesters. You walk away.

That is a policy I have called for from the beginning, as you know. Yeah, it's the right one. So it looks like the problem has de-intensified. Now, the agents that were involved in the killings, they're going to have to go through the system. And if there's evidence, they will, I think, be indicted. But I don't believe there is enough evidence to make that happen at this point. But I haven't framed by framed all of the thing that happened.

Look, I mean, you got two different layers of review. You got internal review for whether they did the right job. in that moment. And then you have the criminal review of. Yeah. Right, but you're going to have interior. Well, that's for the crime, right? But you have two layers of review.

And I'm fine with let's see what the investigation yields and then we can debate it. But my fears, I just don't want to see more of it. And speaking of more of it, Iran deserves one quick mention before I lose you. I don't understand what our strategy is here. I mean, it's really bad there. But it's really bad in a lot of places. Go ahead. So on Tuesday morning, I had an extensive conversation with President Trump about Iran.

What the problem is there is that the Iranian Revolutionary Guard will fight. Unlike Venezuela, where the army wasn't going to fight, CIA knew that. You could send American troops in, grab Maduro. The Revolutionary Guard will fight. All right. So now the president has to make a decision. He has offered a deal to the Muller's. The deal is that you abandon your new program forever, and you let out all the political prisoners.

Okay? If the Muller's do not take that deal, there's going to be a military strike. I don't know what it is. He's not going to tell me. Right. But here's something that no one has mentioned Cuomo, but I know it. The Olympics start on Friday. That's when the talk is supposed to be in Istanbul.

It would be very difficult for anybody to launch a military action during the four weeks or three and a half weeks of the Olympics. Exceedingly difficult to do that because the whole world's focus, and it's a good focus, is on the sporting event in Italy. So you're going to blow the hell out of Iran while the skiers are going down the Alps? It doesn't stack. So there's a little bit of window here to get a deal. Now, if you read Confronting Evil,

did you read the book? I read about 85 pages. I know. It's hard for you, but I'm going to send someone over to read it to you. It's a lot of big words. It's not a lot of pictures. There were some pictures there. It's exactly the same thing that happened in 1979.

But there, the Shah was overthrown. And in my discussion with President Trump, and I can't tell you back and forth, they did make the point because he has read, confronting evil unlike you, all right, listen, the Persian people are responsible for overthrowing this horrible government, not the United States, We can help. We can punish because the mullahs are murdering people. We can do that. But ultimately, it has to come from within.

And that's what the United States and every other decent country should be concentrating on. Understood and appreciated. Bill O'Reilly, thank you very much. If you can get me proof that the president read that whole book, I will take you to dinner anywhere you want, anytime. Oh, what do you want to give him a quiz? You want to give him a quiz? What do you want to do?

Yes. Yes, I do. I have a, I have a, I have a, here's how we'll do it. Caitlin Collins will interview him about the book. Fine, the lady who took my job. Very nice. Yeah, she'll have to throw in three of, she'll have to throw in three or four Epstein questions because she can't help herself.

But we'll have Caitlin asked. They work. They work. They work. They work. Just one question. all I need. Bill, take care. So listen, I know you're a big hockey guy.

You love the Islanders. You happen to be very good friends with John Ladecki. I've met him because of you. And you've got Boston history to Boston University. So Michael Ruzioni had to bring back all kinds of memories for you. Yeah, that was a time where the Soviet Union, this is why that hockey game was so important. So the Soviet Union was on the march. And they were arrogant, and they cheated. So the professionals playing in Urugioni, who you know, of course, went to Boston, you.

And are amateurs. Now, it doesn't happen anymore. They're all pros now. But back then in 1960, you had these the toughest guys on the planet professionals paid by the Soviet government to come in and kick boat, which they did. And nobody expected the college kids to embarrass them. And so it wasn't just a sporting event. It was a statement that we're not going to let you Soviet communists, you know, cheat. Because they're all on drugs and performing enhancing.

I mean, you know, all of that. And one of the proudest moments I think in sports history. I agree. And it wasn't just the Russians, as I pointed out to Mike, don't forget, Iranian Revolution, 1979. hostages. Jimmy Carter making way for Ronald Reagan. So yes, the Russian story was the biggest that we beat the Russians and the finish, and it was

Reagan telling Gorbache have to tear it down. But in that, too, right in that little sweet spot, was the hostages in Iran? I asked Mike, I said, do you guys have any idea? He goes, no. There's no Twitter. There's no Facebook. We're in this little tiny little place in a late Placid

in New York. We were just playing hockey. But you had Iran and Russia. But here's the kicker. it's duplicated right now. That's exactly what I said to him. You're exactly right. Here we are 46 years later. Same exact business. Right, because the games kick off tomorrow in Italy,

and I had an extensive conversation with President Trump earlier this week about Iran. And it would be very difficult to launch military action against the mullos at the same time that you have the Olympic Games capturing the attention of the world. And, you know, it's almost, you say, okay, well, look, we got to deal with these Iranians, and you have to. And if you're at confronting evil, it's exactly the same thing that happened in 1979, but on the other foot. So the mullahs and the fundamentalist Islamists overthrew the Shah. Now the fundamentalist Islamists are being overthrown themselves, and they'll go.

but there's a little deal window here. And I don't know whether it's on again, off again, in Istanbul tomorrow. I assume there'll be some kind of talks. But the scenario is that this government in Iran is not going to survive. But there's a kicker here. It's not like Venezuela. The Venezuelans, we're not going to fight for Maduro. The Revolutionary Guard in Iran will fight.

so that the military action is going to have to be much more intense against them. Well, let me just point out to the audience of difference. Venezuela is about the size of Queens, okay? Iran is 80 times, 80 times the size of Israel with you. You ready for this? 90 million people. This is a big, big spot on the wristboard. This is in Venezuela.

It's night and day. Yes. And my philosophy is, and I did impart this because the president has asked me, the Persians have got to do it themselves. The United States, America, we're not responsible for overthrowing their government. We can help, and we should help. But they have to do it because we can't march on in there. We can do a lot of damage to the Mollos, and we will, if they don't make the deal. But I suspect they're going to make some kind of deal.

You do. Okay. You know, I was thinking about you. I talked about this earlier this morning. I thought to myself, I think Bill O'Reilly would be proud of me because you know, I admitted, I'm about a bigger Trump sycophant as there is out there today. I mean, I just, every opportunity I say something nice about this guy. I do.

But I don't really care what Savannah Guthrie or Nancy Guthrie said about Trump in the past. So two people who I really like. I like them a lot. They're on the show quite a bit. Laurel Lumer and the Misfit Patriot, when they go on Twitter and they start talking about how Guthrie talked about Trump in the past, I was angry of my own friends. This is not the time for that, okay? No. Right?

I mean, and I said O'Reilly would say the same thing. Yes, President Trump, they did talk nationally about him. What did he do? He said more federal agents. He called Savannah yesterday. Who cares? as the greatest ever in your position, Bill O'Reilly, as a journalist. Your heart's got to be breaking for Savannah, yes?

Well, anybody who's got elderly parents knows the danger attached to that. That's number one. So this is not a story about the Guthrie family in a unique way. This is a story about every American. And when your parents get older, you have a responsibility to protect them as best you can. Okay, I know you've done that. I've done that, certainly, in Levitown with my mother. And when you have a situation that's out of control here, you've got to say to yourself,

politics is not important now. It's important now is to lend some sympathy, empathy to the Guthrie family. Now, I know Savannah a little bit. She's always been respectful to me. I don't think she's going to get her Ph.D. in political science anytime soon. And I will tell you, I don't care what they say. I really don't care. You know, the nitwit that goes on the Grammys and goes stolen land.

I'm looking at her like, lady, you just don't know anything. No. Okay? And that's your problem, not mine. If you want to think you're walking around on stolen land, okay, that's fine with me. I'll take your three million house for $250,000. All right now. And by the way, the, I'll take it off your hand.

Right, and the Native Americans who are there, they laughed at her. Everybody did. You know, it's like, I said the same thing earlier about my friend Bill Sims. When the Redskins were considering changing their name, that I love Phil. Phil's one of my best parties, quite quarterback. He was at the front of the line. The Indian people couldn't care less. It's the whites that pander to this nonsense.

Well, I mean, here's how bad it is. If you really believe that the United States of the United States of the United States of America is stolen land from indigenous people, then why don't you move to Costa Rica? Because the indigenous people run Costa Rica. It's just South, you know? I mean, I don't want to, if I believe that I'm living in a cursed nation, I'm going to move somewhere else. That's right.

But look, these people, they do this for money. they understand that the music industry is far, far left. And if you want to get a recording contract and marketing, you've got to play a political game. And then it makes them feel good, and everybody in their little bubble goes, Oh, you saw that's so great. And so okay. But why do you care?

So I'm on my way to the Super Bowl. I'm going to take off in a few hours to go to San Francisco. You're going to the game. I'm going to the game, but I'm doing a lot of work in San Francisco for News Nation. Are you taking Spencer? I know. Spicer's studying. He's working his butt off at Georgetown. What a great kid. So you'll see the president, I guess, Sunday at the game. He's going.

No, he's not going. Yeah, he is. Oh, he changes his mind? I think so, yes. Okay. I may see him. But I'm going there to do it, not a documentary, but a special report on the collapse of San Francisco. Love that. which mirrors what is going to happen in New York City. Don't love that.

But it's identical. It is absolutely identical. And the election of Mamdani is going to assure that what has happened in San Francisco will happen in New York City. This time next year, hopefully we'll be talking. You will see. And I know the city of San Francisco pretty well. in New York, obviously, no. But I'm going to go in there.

I'm going to do that, and then I'm going to go to some of the festivities. And I've sent a message to a bad bunny. If you get out of control, you're going to have to deal with me. So the malevolent rabbit is in a bad spot now. Isn't he? I did see Roger Goodell defend that choice. I mean, what's he going to say, please? Charles Barkley was a little more, I don't know, angry about people ranking on bad bunny.

I want no part of bad bunny. My issue is that I would go watch the Turning Point USA deal, although I'm not thrilled with them either. I got to be honest, Tucker Carlson. I'm not even a big J.D. Vance guy anymore. I used to be now more about Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz. But I'm sorry, Bill. You may love him. Brian Kilmead yelled to me for the last two or three days.

If Kid Rock is the best you can do, they're not stealing a lot of audience. I'm sorry. Not happening. No, look, the reason that Bad Bunny is doing the halftime show is jerseys. Really? All right? So in this demographic, 17 to 32, they're the people that buy all the NFL jersey. That is true, yes.

That's what this is all about. I can assure you that Roger Goodell has never listened to a Bad Bunny record, is in his entire life, okay? But he knows that demographic buys the jerseys and the hats and everything else. And that's why bad bunnies there. And so, all right, we all know the business end of it. And capitalism is, that's the biggest display of capitalism, the Super Bowl, in the world, right there. It really is.

And the amount of money that the networks, the National Football League, I mean, just everybody makes a ton of money. Let me tell you this. The average hotel, if you go to San Francisco, just go. It's about $500 a night for a decent place, you know, for a chain hotel. They're charging $2,500 a night. I'm sure. No, I know.

$2,500. And they don't even give you breakfast. I don't even know if the bellhop will take your... I don't even know. $2,500, okay? The plane fairs have quadrupled. Right? If you drive to Levi Stadium, they want to park, $250.

I know. It's insane. I know. It's like that in D.C., the day of the inauguration, but that's only one day. The Super Bowl, people do that for a week, for a week, and it's even bigger. They're all running around out there. And I'm going to be tweeting about it at Bill O. Riley. I mean, you know, I'm going to do it funny. I don't take any of this seriously.

No. Other than the report I'm going to do on San Francisco is going to be serious. Obviously. But the festivities, I told Stephen A. Smith last night that he and I are going to crash a party. I'm going to completely ruin it. I love it. And when you go, what happened? You should do that.

I saw Stephen A. sitting there yesterday with my friend Christopher Mard-Dog Rousseau on set. ESPN in California yesterday. So on the way out, you're on your way there. Go ahead, Bill O'Reilly. You know about as much as football as anybody else. What is O'Reilly's fearless prediction for Sunday night? I hate to do it because I'm a Boston, Boston my second home. And I admire what Vrable has done with that team.

That's one of the great coaching accomplishments of all time, what he did up there. But Seattle's got better-skilled players. They're a faster team. It all goes down to Darnold. So you remember last year, Donald folded in the playoffs. Yes, terrible.

But he was great against the ramps. And he's got three or four receivers that are better than anything the Patriots have. 100% true. Right. I mean, this nitwit, what's his name? The guy's got 18 children. And he doesn't know their names.

What's his name came from Buffalo? Oh, my God. Stepan Diggs. Yeah. Oh, this guy. Yeah. So when you look at the skill positions, and that's what the game's all about now, all right, the guys who make the big plays, Seattle's better team. However, if Donald gets hit the face a few times in the first quarter...

The pads can do. The pads can do that. They've got a pretty aggressive pass rush. They can. They're very, very good on defense. And he turns the ball over, then that will cascade down. because New England is going to play a conservative game. You're not going to see New England be winging it down the field. They're going to methodically try to get field position and play it just as they played it in Denver, even though Denver is terrible weather. They're not going to take a lot of chances, whereas Seattle will take the chances. So, you know, the best team doesn't always win.

This is an impossible game to bet. It's a very tough game to bet. I would take the underdog, because the best team doesn't always win. My favorite Super Bowl lover is 1990. The bills were loaded with Hall of Famers. My Hall of Famers, like Warren Taylor, are playing their last year. They had Kelly, Thomas, and Reed. We won.

So I think you're right. I think the parts are good enough defensively. They'll play a very conservative game. Mike Brayble, and Drake May will do just enough to keep it close. I think it's a field goal game. I think four and a half is too many points. All this is not turn it over. And one more thing before we get to Lionel.

Bill O'Reilly.com has a documentary, not documentary, but an interview that I'm dropping tonight at 6 o'clock for everybody. You don't want to be a member. It's me and Namath one-on-one. I saw some of it on Instagram already. It's great. Oh, you will believe this. Oh. Oh, boy.

Because I know Namath for a long time. And when I was a kid in Levittown, I ride my bike over to holly. To fetch footballs that were when awry. And I know all of this stuff. Where do you see what really happened inside Super Bowl 3, the biggest upset in history? Can't wait. Can't wait.

So we want everybody to go to billorale.com this evening. You'll enjoy Joe. He looks great. And he and I for about 45 minutes back and forth about that big game. Right. Yeah, he actually was good to me, I started my sports career at a place called CBS Sports Line, Cypress Creek Road in Fort Lauderdale from Mike Levy in 1997.

That's now CBSSports.com, by the way. And the two athletes that bought in, they invested and showed up everywhere with us from Mike Schmidt. He lived in Jupiter and Joe Namath, who lived in Jupiter. So I got to know Joe very, very, very well. I know you know him longer, but he's a terrific guy. I can't wait to see it. Bill O'Reilly.com tonight.

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