Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - PARDON BONANZA: Inauguration Day Brings a Large Number of Pardons From Trump and Biden, Steven Camarota Discusses Trump's Migrant Executive Orders, Some Senate Democrats Resist the Laken Riley Act & Vivek Ramaswamy Leaves DOGE

Episode Date: January 22, 2025

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Pardon me. And that is the subject of this evening. talking points memo. Two presidents using their pardon power. Now this analysis I think will be the most fair you get anywhere on earth. So here we go. First Donald Trump, 1583 people have been charged in connection with the January 6th, 2021 riot at the Capitol. 700 have been sentenced to prison. 470 cases have not been tried yet. Just two people acquitted. Why? Because there's videotape. And anybody entering that Capitol building is guilty of a crime. No extenuating circumstances. You trespass. Okay. So it's not a tough call for a jury or a prosecutor to say plead guilty.

But there are extenuating circumstances, which I'm going to get into right now, and this is very important. So Donald Trump, it seems, is pardoned everybody. That's what the White House.gov website says. But I don't think that's true. We're still trying to figure it out. 14 people have their senses commuted. There's a difference. So if you get a pardon, it doesn't overturn your conviction.

You still have it on your sheet. but whatever punishment is in play vanishes, so you get out of jail. If you get a commutation, that doesn't forgive the crime either, and it doesn't restore any civil rights. A pardon does. So if you get a pardon, then you can vote or you can own a gun. But if you get a commutation, you can't. It's technical, but that's what it is.

Now, there have been some pretty tough. people let out of prison on partons. One of them, the media is honking about is a guy named Julian Katter, K-H-A-T-E-R. So he attacked U.S. Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick, all right? And Sidnik died the next day from a stroke. And Sidneyk's family obviously says, look, the reason he's dead is because this guy, Catter and others, attack him. Now, that's not on the death certificate, but if you're a family member, I'm sure you believe that, right? Okay, so Catter, the attacker, has been jailed since March 14, 2021, and he didn't get bail. So he's been in there, and he was sentenced to 80 months, and he's getting out now because of the party.

So you make the call. If it were me and I were President Trump, I would not have pardoned Catter. Violent. Anybody who's attacks the police officers violent and does have sympathy for me if I'm president? That's me. But again, you make the call. There's another guy, Henry Enrique Terrio. He is the head of the proud boys' far-right organization.

Now, he got the book thrown at him. He wasn't even there. But the FBI had evidence, very strong evidence, that he organized, or at least helped organize, the assault on the Capitol. Okay? He got 22 years in a federal penitentiary. 22. He's out. Now, I'd have to look at the case.

22 seems very, very harsh to me, even if you are an insurrectionist, because that's insurrection. all right what tario was convicted of doing and i believe it's true um is absolutely trying to overthrow the government in the united states so he's out now extenuating circumstances this is fascinating many of the u.s attorneys that prosecuted these cases knew that the people who invaded the capital could not afford to litigate these cases. They didn't have any money. You want to go up against the federal government. You better have a million dollars to pay your lawyers and all the other court fees. One million. Minimum, these people didn't have the money. And we're talking about bill bill just milling around, going in and out of windows, that kind of thing. They couldn't

do it. So the prosecutor would come in and say, look, you plead guilty to, press pass or criminal mischief, or whatever it may be, we'll drop the other serious charges and you'll get your punishment. But if you bleed not guilty, we're taking it to the max and you're being charged with really heavy felonies. That's what happened in many, perhaps most of these cases. Media has not reported that. I have looked at it. That is what happened. That is not equal justice for all, the violation of our Constitution, because the U.S. attorneys knew these people could not afford to defend themselves against the heavy felonies that got them to plead down so they got a conviction. It's wrong. I'm President Trump.

Those cases, I'm pardoning them. Not justifying what they did. Now, I think that Donald Trump should tell the American people exactly what I just told you right now. He's not going to agree with me about the people who attacked the police officers. I don't think he would agree with that. But that's okay. I mean, I voted for Donald Trump, but I don't support everything he does, and you shouldn't

either. He's a human being, and he's a powerful man, and everything he does, should be evaluated in a fair lens. But what has not been reported is the absolute ferocity that the Biden Justice Department used to convict these people. Now the what about people go, oh, the BLM protests and after George Floyd, that was state beefs, excuse me, state beefs, different from feds. I don't think the Biden administration would have gone after anybody, but, but

But that's just my opinion. There was a case in Portland, Oregon where Antifa attacked the federal building, but it's nebulous. So there's no what about. What is true is President Biden wanted to throw the book at all of these people. And so did Merrick Garland, the Attorney General, and those were the orders. Get them. Now because they were all Trump supporters, Donald Trump has sympathy for them. That makes sense. Is all of this make sense to you? Okay. So, sum it up for Trump.

I wouldn't pardon or commute any sentence involving violence against police officers. Donald Trump did. But the vast majority of other cases did have extenuating circumstances that I just explained, and those people should get mercy. And I'm glad they did. Joe Biden. Okay. So, in addition to pardoning his son, Hunter, who the House Oversight Committee says got at least $7.5 million from foreign entities. Okay. He's now pardoned President Biden has.

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It says that all these people got what they mob calls a taste of the money into the Biden family from foreign countries and individuals. That's what it says. Why else would they be considered? Now, this happened 20 minutes before Biden left office. Why? Because everybody knows what this is. It's a continuation of the grift.

Now, last night I was on News Nation talking about this, rolling. Just before he walked out of the wall, he walked out of the White House, Biden pardoned his family, everybody but Jill. Right. Okay. If I'm President Trump, I ask the Attorney General Bondi to appoint a special counsel to investigate the Biden family, even though a full pardon is on the books.

Because the American people have a right to know. really whether there was graft and corruption at the vice presidential level and the presidential level that's what i do would you oppose that yeah all right absolutely oppose it and i think it would be really funny if pam bondy picked a special counsel that wasn't someone who was already working at the doj and see if the republicans got upset about that the way they did with jack smith all right so quomo and many other americans probably the majority on the left don't want to know They don't want to know if Joe Biden himself took money and what happened with the family distribution of funds from overseas.

They don't care. I care. I think you care. But if you don't care, I want you to write me and tell me why. Bill at Bill O'Reilly.com. Bill at bill o'Reilly. I got an email today from a far-left acquaintance of mine, and he's railing.

He just railing, oh, he doesn't want to know. Now, sorry, but graft, bribery, money-changing hands at the vice presidential or presidential level, you've got to know. Well, you don't have a country anymore, as Donald Trump would say. You've got to know. And we don't know. Now, there are people who accuse and say that Joe Biden took money. Has it been established.

We're trying to get Comer on. He's got a book. And I'm optimistic. We'll get him on this week. But he didn't have it. He couldn't get it. That Biden himself had money. Because if Biden got paid from Hunter or anybody else, Jim, like that, he didn't put it on his income tax.

And that's a felony. Now, Biden can't pardon him. themselves. Okay, so Biden's still hanging out there, the president, but his family, but it doesn't matter. We need to know, even if they can't be punished. January 6th, this is amazing. Okay, so Biden pardoned the members of the committee, which tried to crucify Donald Trump. All right, those members are Benny Thompson. These are all right. These are all right. all Congresspeople. Liz Cheney, Adam Kisinger, Adam Schiff, Zoe Lofgren, Pete Aguilar, Stephanie Murphy, Jamie Raskin, Elaine, Luriam.

Okay? So they're all pardoned. Why? Well, Trump said something that I didn't know yesterday. Go. By pardoning all of those people that he pardoned by pardoning J6, the unselect committee, they destroyed all of the documents. They deleted all of the information. There's no information. And a lot of the information pertains to Nancy Pelosi because she was given one hundred.

I mean, you know this. It's on tape with her daughter. Nancy Pelosi was responsible for not taking advantage of 10,000 soldiers or 1,000. I was talking about the National Guard that he put on alert, Trump put on alert the night before January 6th.

So Trump is basically saying the J6 committee destroyed documents, that's a felony. U.S. Code 1519. If those committee members, those congresspeople, destroyed evidence, it's a crime. I didn't know that. I didn't know that was the accusation that they destroyed evidence. I knew that Liz Cheney conferred with a woman named Cassidy Hutchinson, who lied her butt off, in my opinion. And I could be wrong, but from what I know, anyway, I know Cheney secretly met with her, and there's all kinds of stuff there.

But anyway, that's why that pardon was given to the J6 people in Congress. So summing up, two controversial pardons. I think I've covered this as fair as any human being on earth. If you don't think so, bill at bill o'Reilly.com, name and town. All right, Joe Biden goes to California on our dime. Thank you, Joe. Okay, flies to Santa Anaeis in Santa Barbara County for a little vacation. One of his pals putting him up.

Shouldn't have taken Air Force One? He did. That cost what? A couple million bucks. Thank you, Joe. You don't think he's a grifter? Come on. Donald Trump, executive order, designating the drug cartels

of Mexico terrorists. Quote, the cartels' activities threaten the safety of American people, security of the United States, stability of the international order in Western Hemisphere. Their activities, proximity to, and incursions into the physical territory of the United States pose an unacceptable national security risk to the United States. Executive order signed yesterday. Now, on October 14, 2021, I've never reported this before, but I will now. I had dinner with Donald Trump, and we discussed this executive of order. Yes, me? Would you do it? I said absolutely in a heartbeat. And now the United States can kill drug cartel members without consulting with Mexico or anything like that. If you

want to know how it works, read my book, Killing the Killers, about Soleimani and all of that. It's exactly the same thing. And I think this is a very good thing. Donald Trump also shut down the Border Patrol app where migrants were getting appointments to apply for asylum. That has gone dark. No more of that. No more catch and release. Joining us now from Washington, D.C. is our go-to guy on Immigration Matters, Stephen Camerata. He's the Director of Research for the Center for Immigration Studies.

What is the most important thing that Donald Trump did yesterday? and the executive orders vis-a-vis migration. Well, I think, first of, I'd say the tone, right? He's letting everybody know the immigration laws back in business. We're not going to be releasing people at the border. I mean, there were several things that he signed. Some obviously are just going to get stuck in the courts very quick, like an end-to-birthright citizenship.

Others can have some impact on supporting the Border Patrol like his use of the military, though it's not clear how much more that's going to matter than what the National Guards are already doing at the border. But other things like, as you mentioned, getting rid of the CBP-1 app, which is allowing people from certain countries to schedule a hearing.

These are not individuals who have a green card. Not individuals have any other legal right to come in, but they're just using it to parole these individuals into the United States with the possibility some way down the road of getting asylum. Though, as far as we can tell, most don't apply. We think we've let in 400, thousand people that way. So this program, CNHV it's called, because it applies to Cuba,

Nicaragua, Haiti, and Venezuela, this program, he shut it down and that whole system of using that app. He's also tried to side executive order dealing with a reinstating remain in Mexico, which is a way of preventing people from just coming to the border and applying for asylum, knowing the system is overwhelmed and being released in the United States. Right, which was insane. So now they have to wait in Mexico, which was the policy in last year of his first term. How important is the executive order designating the cartels, which of course are smuggling tons of narcotics and they are people smugglers as well into the USA? How important, in your opinion, Stephen, is that executive order? Well, certainly the first time anyone's ever done that.

I think time will tell if it has, if it really makes an impact. But we know the cartels are involved in smuggling and human trafficking. So if we can go after them more effectively because of this, that could have an impact. We'll have to see, I mean, they're very powerful, very rich, and we have limits on what we could do to them in Mexico without greatly angering Mexico. And in terms of cooperation on migration, greatly angering Mexico may be a problem. But I think, I mean, I'm just not sure, Bill. I have to be totally honest.

Let me mention another thing he did. He's basically put the refugee settlement program on hold to give it an up to down, top to bottom, if you will, review. So that was over 100,000 new people coming in each year. And so that's another big change. And I think that was another thing that he did was very wise. What Trump has done is added bureaucracy to people coming in here. Sometimes that's unfair as with Afghanistan.

But that's what he's done. I believe the terror order will ultimately lead to the destruction of the cartels if Donald Trump executes it, pardon the pun, the way he did with the terrorists in the Middle East, because now we don't have to consult with Mexico City. We'd be foolish to because so many of those people are on the take. They've been bribed by the cartels. They tip them off for any criminal raid or anything like that. So from the space, you isolate a cartel leader or members, and boom, the drone just wipes them off the face of the earth. That's going to send a lot of fear into those criminal precincts.

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he adopted policies that greatly facilitated. The short answer is probably maybe he wasn't that aware. I mean, I think that people who are very... And why did people behind him do it? There's got to be a reason why they did it. Right. And the reason I think they do it is, at the reason. at its core, they see restrictions on immigration into the United States as motivated by racism and ethnic animus and ipso facto, the border's kind of illegitimate. Now, they'll pay lift service. They'll send some people back, but someone like Majorcas is just fundamentally hostile, if you will, seemingly to America's sovereignty. That's the only way to explain this crazy policy. Far left, progressive nonsense. Stephen, thanks very much, as always. We really appreciate it.

Senate has approved the Lake and Riley Act that says that the Department of Homeland Security can detain foreign nationals arrested in this country for burglary, theft, larceny, shoplifting, or assault on a law enforcement officer or anybody else. Okay? That's what it says. So you don't have to be convicted. You're arrested. it. Now, if the states don't cooperate with Department of Homeland Security after the arrests are

made in the individual states, then the federal government can take sanctions against them, and individuals can too. All right? So this basically removes any protections for sanctuary cities and states. And it was approved by the Senate 6435, now goes back to the House to tweak it, we'll pass, Trump will sign it. But here are some of the senators that voted against this, who want criminal aliens not to be handed over to the federal government. Blumenthal, Connecticut, Duckworth, Illinois, Durbin, Illinois, Gillibrand, New York, Corona, Hawaii, Angus King, I can't believe it, Maine, Sanders, Vermont, of course, Schiff,

California, Schumer, New York, Elizabeth Warren, Massachusetts, Childen, White House, Rhode Island. All right. Now, how can you vote for those people? How could any American vote for them? Jeez. Lake and Riley, of course, murdered, 22 years old. It was at a University of Georgia and a guy who allegedly did it. He did it. Gang member from Venezuela. God. Tick-Tock. I don't care about TikTok, but millions of Americans do. So TikTok's run by the Chinese government. We all know that. They accumulate information about people on using TikTok. And now the Supreme Court says, hey, the United States can outlaw that. It's a security issue.

But Trump has a different take on it. Go. I think the U.S. should be entitled to get half of TikTok. And congratulations, TikTok as a good partner. and that would be worth. You know, it could be $500 billion or something. It's crazy. The numbers are crazy.

But it's worthless if I don't. If the president doesn't sign, then it's worthless. All right. So it's 75 days that Donald Trump has a decision to make, whether to outlaw TikTok because it's run by the Chinese communist, or to make a deal where the United States controls 50% of TikTok. And the Chinese government's out. That's what Trump's angling for.

He wants some money. Now, I hope the money would be used to pay down our debt. Okay, so that's what that's all about. Vick Shremaswamy out at the Department of Government Efficiency. You remember he was appointed with Elon Musk to go into D.C. and knock out the waste. And all kinds of rumors about Vivek and I don't traffic and rumors. And I don't know why he's out, but he may run for governor of the

Ohio in 19, I'm sorry, in 26, and I think he's a good chance he will, but he's not there in the federal government any longer. Media madness, I told you yesterday that the goal of the corporate media now, the anti-Trump media, which is 90% of it, except for Fox and Newsmax, is to create hysteria in this country about Donald Trump. So I think it made me CNN would do a little bit more moving into the center. No. They call him a historian. Yeah, okay. His name is Tim Naftelli.

And Tim hates Trump. Hates him, is what he said yesterday. I just want to make a point about how the world is watching this. No, there are a number of foreign leaders that came to this inauguration, which was itself unusual. He also invited that the president did, invited leaders of foreign conservative, far-right governments. In a sense, we had the far-right Internacional representative at the inauguration. So what all Tim didn't tell you is that Donald Trump invited the Chinese communists. That's pretty far away from far right, isn't it?

It was so, you know, CNN, Jake Tapper and Daniel Dale, these two, Abbott and Costello. Remember Evan Costello? One of the funniest movies ever is Abin Costello meets Frankenstein. Anyway, this is Abed and Costello. Dale is supposedly, allegedly, a CNN fact checker, and Tapper is one of the biggest propagandists ever to work in the national media. Roll it. Let's bring in Daniel Dale, and Daniel Dale,

I know there's a lot of familiar lies that we're just told, but bring us up to speed on what you think the big. biggest ones were. There were a bunch, Jake. There were a bunch of them. It's a million lives. It's just, now, when I get the ratings for everybody, every day, and I just look at CNN, and it's, you would have eyewitness news, Green Bay, Wisconsin has more viewers than CNN nationwide.

I mean, it's just crazy. I'm making an exaggeration here, but it's close. And that's why. Finally, Van Jones, right on. Go. Look, I was prepared for shock and awe. This is just shock and awful as far as I'm concerned. I mean, if David is 100% right, this could be interpreted by some people as a green light for right-wing political violence.

Yeah, by some people, what, in insane ensign asylum's there? van? I don't know anybody who says, hey, yeah, Donald Trump wants that violence. CNN. Look, I don't relish their failure. I don't. MSNBC, I do. I have to admit it. They're worse. But CNN, you're going down a drain. You got to have a meeting or a conference or something. I don't know it's worth saving at this point, but my God. Smart light. So over the weekend, 2000 at least flights are canceled because it snowed four inches in New York and other places in the northeast. No blizzard, no Armageddon, there's why in the 2000 flights. So what do you do when you get bumped off a plane or the plane doesn't take off or whatever? The federal government is

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So this is what you're entitled to in a smart life segment. You negotiate with them. They can give you cash, a voucher for another flight, two vouchers, hotel, airline lounge, dinner, breakfast. They got a whole bunch of things they can give you. But to get it out of them is not easy. The first thing you do is take down their name, polite, polite. Full name, not Donna. a full name and then you say look plane didn't take off you or you bumped me off the plane

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Donald Trump's going to go to North Carolina to visit the poor people impacted by the hurricane there on Thursday, L.A. Friday. Good. It'll be interesting to see the dynamic with Newsom. If I were Trump, I wouldn't deal with Newsom. I'd say very politely, Governor, we're just going to do with the federal level here. Okay? And then I have Secret Service. Block them if he showed up, which he won't.

Stay in history, January 21st, 1793. So everybody knows about Marie Antoinette and Louis XVIth, and I got their heads cut off, but nobody knows why. I am here to tell you. Two hundred thirty-two years ago, France, okay? January 21st, 1793, Louis the 16th got his head cut off because France was in economic trouble. Okay? So I'm not going to get into why, but Louis didn't know what he was doing.

And he marries Marie Antoinette, who was a hard woman. She was a famous quote, is, let him eat cake. We don't care if they're starving. We don't care. So the French Revolution broke out. Boom. And the revolutionaries, this is Le Mzrabb, won. And then they parade Louis on January 21st, right to the guillotine.

That's the blade. You put your, boom. And Louis' head goes off. All right, ten months later, it's Marie Antoinette's turn. The guillotine are. To our revolution, we threw the British out of here, but we didn't guillotine anybody, although it was pretty brutal if you read Killing England. Okay, final thought about how you might make some money during the Trump administration.

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