Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - President Trump's 60 Minutes Interview, Obama Enters the Election Cycle & Retired NYPD Chief John Chell on the Dangers of a Mamdani Win
Episode Date: November 4, 2025Hey BillOReilly.com Premium and Concierge Members, welcome to the No Spin News for Monday, November 3, 2025. Stand Up for Your Country. Talking Points Memo: Bill breaks down President Trump's in...terview on CBS’s 60 Minutes with Norah O’Donnell. The real reason Barack Obama has entered the political arena again. Retired Chief of Department of the NYPD, John Chell, joins the No Spin News to discuss how NYC could change if Zohran Mamdani is elected and the latest on the Bronx subway cop beaters. Is the government stealing from you with speed cameras? Final Thought: Bill looks ahead to the rest of this week. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Welcome to the No Spin News, Monday, November 3rd, 2025, stand up for your country.
So I watched the 60-minute interview with President Trump last night, and then I read about 7 in the morning the entire transcript that CBS posted.
I got to tell you, it was so convoluted and all over the place.
that I'm sitting there and I go,
maybe it's me,
but I didn't learn one thing,
nothing from that interview.
And I think the interview ran more than an hour.
Didn't run that long on TV,
but the transcript, you know,
there's a lot of stuff that they didn't air.
And I'm going, what, what's going on?
So it's my job to tell you what's going on,
and I will.
And I'm not trying to be petty
or criticize Nora O'Donnell,
the CBS correspondent.
I don't want to do that.
But I got to be honest, I mean, I'm looking, I'm watching, it's my time, and I'm trying
to learn something, and I'm not learning.
Now, if you disagree, if you did learn something, I will read your letter tomorrow.
Bill at Bill O'Reilly.com.
Name in town, as always, but Bill at Bill O'Reilly.com.
Could be me, been in a business 50 years, so maybe I'm just way out of touch with, you know,
the regular discourse.
So the interview is the subject of this evening's talking points memo.
I picked out, I'm going to five or six short sound bites, short 30 seconds or so,
because I just, the repetition was numbing.
It was numbing.
And again, I'm not trying to blame anybody here.
I'm going to explain what was happening that Donald Trump goes into an interview.
And you've got to pin them down with specifics.
You've got to hit him with stuff he's not expecting.
Not because you want to gotcha him, all right?
It's because you're not going to get anything if you ask predictable questions and he gives
predictable answers that he's given a hundred times before.
He's got all that in.
And he anticipated there wasn't going to be anything out of the usual, okay?
It was obvious from the very beginning.
So the government shut down and there's some news.
today that the feds will start to fund the food stamps shortly, specifics have not been released,
but that money is going to start to flow. And it should, and I'll tell you why in a little
while. Not to everybody, there's a lot of fraud in that, but there's a lot of need in that, too.
Okay, so we've got to be very careful here. But anyway, the shutdown was obviously in play,
it's breaking news here's what happened go here's what i can't do i can't give them a trillion and a
half dollars so that they can give welfare to people that came into our country illegally so that
prisoners and that people from mental institutions and people that are drug dealers get vast
amounts of money for health care that i can't do so my what i can do is i can continue to run a
great country we have the best economy we've ever had all right
So there is some truth to what the president is saying, and I don't care if Chuck Schumer lies all day long.
There is money rooted in Democratic states through Medicaid to illegal aliens.
All you got to do is look at the budget for the state of Oregon.
It's there, right?
Black and white.
$1.5 million earmarked for undocumented people.
through Medicaid. That's that's tax money, that's federal tax money given Oregon by the feds.
The Trump is right about that. But overall, it's a complicated situation. But the Republican Party
is never going to give the Democratic Party a carte blanche to keep rising the cost of Obamacare.
And, you know, I wrote a column.
On Bill O'Reilly.com, it's got all the stats, how when Obamacare was passed,
here was the number the congressional budget office said was going to happen.
It's way more than that, with no end in sight.
No, it's going to bankrupt the nation, continue to do this.
Publicists are never going to do it.
And the Democrats knew that, but tried to ram it through anyway, knowing the government
was going to shut down.
So Trump is holding firm.
there's going to have to be some kind of accommodation made.
I don't know what it is, but I'm still confident that will happen.
But I'm going to tell you at the end of the program,
I've got to fly this week.
I'm not confident that plane's going to get off the ground.
All right, the second one was about high prices.
Now, this is the most important thing for the Trump administration right now,
because they have to hold next year in the midterms Congress.
rule of tape.
I inherited the worst inflation in history of our country.
We don't have inflation.
We're down to 2% even less than 2%.
A couple of items like beef, I'm getting down.
But our groceries are down.
Health care premiums?
I can fix health care.
Give them better health care for less money.
Obamacare is hurting people.
Obamacare was a disaster from day one.
I can fix it and make it good.
I'd really rather start with a fresh plate, but if it's required to keep it, we can make it much better.
That's a good answer, okay, because if fiscally Obamacare's out of control, not that the Democrats care about that, they don't care because they want the government to run health care.
That's the goal. Yes, bankrupt Obamacare, bankrupt it, and then the feds will have to take over the whole system.
You know what that will lead to, and I'll get into this tomorrow.
That will lead to a two-tier health care system in America
because doctors will just get out and go into concierge treatments.
So the wealthy people, the affluent people, will have their private doctor.
They'll pay more for it.
And everybody else will be left with physician's assistants and RNs and all of this
because most of the doctors, they're gone.
They're not going to do this.
government-run stuff.
It happened in England.
If you're wealthy, you're not in a public health system in Great Britain.
You're not.
You hide your own doctor.
That's exactly what will happen here.
The poor working and the working people get much less in the medical area if the government
runs everything.
All right.
The third one was the most controversial story right now.
about undocumented migrants and how ICE is tracking them down. Go.
Is it your intent to deport people who do not have a criminal record?
We have to start off with a policy, and the policy has to be you came into the country illegally,
you're going to go out. However, you've also seen, you're going to go out, we're going to work
with you, and you're going to come back into our country legally, because we have a lot of good
people. And we've accepted all of these people because of Biden's,
open border policy where people would walk in totally unchecked and unvetted murderers and everybody
else when will you declare mission accomplished on immigration well it takes a long time because
you know probably i say 25 million people were led into our country i'd say 15 um but as the president
said later on it doesn't really matter 15 25 uh the worst public policy
ever in this country was the open border totally engineered by one man that was President
Biden. Can I be any more clear than that? What a dereliction of duty. What, oh, all right,
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Who you got
a heavy hand
is not what you want
you got to protect yourself
criminal alien
you know a warrant you know it's a person
then you go
but if it's some woman
or a child or something like that
who just happens to be in
the vicinity
lighter touch.
Okay.
Supreme Court in tariffs.
Huge story for all of us
because it will affect the American economy.
What happens to your
economic plan if the Supreme Court
invalidates your tariffs?
I think our country would be
immeasurably hurt.
I think our economy will go to hell.
Look, because of tariffs, we have the highest stock market we've ever had.
Because of tariffs, 401Ks at the highest level that,
and this is millions and millions of people that we've ever had, 401Ks.
I think it's the most important subject discussed by the Supreme Court in 100 years.
Maybe because if the Supreme Court were to rule that the President of the United States
is not of the power to impose tariffs without congressional approval, stock market get down
5,000 points in one day. That will happen. So, and the Supreme Court are deliberating
on this right now. I'll make a prediction right here on November 3rd that the Supreme Court
will uphold the president's right to unilaterally, that means by himself, slap tariffs on
foreign nations. It almost has to, because just what Donald Trump said, you will blow up
the whole system. That's how reliant we are now on this new trade situation. Okay. Finally, China,
you know, I am deeply involved with this.
Here, Nora O'Donnell, this was good.
So most of her questions were predictable, not backed up by facts.
She didn't seem to have command of both sides of the story.
She's taking a liberal line.
And Ms. O'Donnell is a liberal as I wrote in a message of the day on bill o'Reilly.com.
But it's okay.
She's not a bad person.
She's not corrupt.
I know her.
She's not.
there's some of them that are horrible
but she's liberal
and she takes that line
but here
she has a very good question about China
go
our own intelligence agencies say
the Chinese have infiltrated parts
of the American power grid and their
water systems they steal
American intellectual property
and Americans personal information
they bought American farmland
how big of a threat is China
it's like everybody
else we're a threat to them too many of the things that you say we do to them look this is a
very competitive world especially when it comes to china and the u.s and we're always watching them
and they're always watching us in the meantime i think we get along very well and i think it's
i think we can be bigger better and stronger by working with them as opposed to just
knocking them out good that's exactly the way i feel
And you've got to get along with these people.
All right, summing up, number one, was that a fair assessment of the 60-minute interview?
If I'm unfair, I want you to tell me, bill at bill o'Reilly.com.
All right?
To me, I didn't learn anything.
So I'm sitting there going, come on.
And I'm hoping that I can secure an interview with President Trump before the end of the year.
That's my goal.
He knows that we would like it.
We were supposed to do it, but then he got the Hamas stuff going on and had to go over with the hostages.
Now, if I get it, I'm going to really be under pressure, right?
So, but boy, it'll be interesting.
And that's the memo.
Once again, the snap thing broke.
mid-afternoon, and the Department of Agriculture says it's going to start to send out
food stamps again.
Average food stamp, 42 million Americans, which is unbelievable.
All right, $190 per person per month.
Now, I was reading a story of a woman.
I've got two young kids.
One of the kids is cancer.
Husband splits, just leaves.
doesn't provide a dime.
There is no law against that.
You state's out there, man, you've got to get this under control.
Our husband should be charged with child neglect.
So the woman has got one sick kid, one other child, no income, can't work with a girl
little girl has cancer, she has to get government assistance.
So anyway, just want to bring that to your attention.
Barack Obama is back.
Now, the reason he's back, and this, of course, has not been reported,
but that's why you watch and listen to me,
is because of Trump whaling on Obamacare.
So the former president shows up in Virginia,
in the gubernatorial race
to support Abigail Spanberger
and then in New Jersey,
same thing, supporting Mikey Cheryl.
Now, I think Cheryl could lose,
Jersey. Spanberger probably won in Virginia.
Anyway, so Barack Obama gets out there in Virginia
and says this about Republicans.
They put on a big show of deporting people
and targeting transgender folks,
they never miss a chance to scapegoat minorities in DEI
for every problem under the sun.
You got a flat tire?
DEI.
Huh.
Wife mad at you?
D.E.I.
What they have not devoted energy to is help
you? They have not put forward serious proposals to lower housing costs or make groceries more
affordable. They haven't improved our schools. They haven't made health care more accessible.
They haven't shortened your commute or prepared young people for the future where AI might
take their job. Well, that's because they're not babysitters. So for the past four years,
we had President Biden, a Democrat, in office, okay? Did he make gross?
grocery is more affordable? They went up more than 20%. I'm talking to Barack Obama now.
Did he improve the nation's schools? No, test scores dramatically declined in public schools.
They didn't approve them. Health care more accessible? No, Obamacare was in full effect
for four years under Biden and costs are totally out of control. Didn't do that. Now, I'm not a
what about ism guy? But if you're going to blame all of the maladies of this society on an
administration that's been in office less than a year and ignore one of the most destructive
administrations in history run by your vice president, I'm not sure that's really fair, Mr. Obama.
Okay. I hate the partisan stuff, but it's ridiculous. New York City.
I live eight miles outside the city, so I'm not affected directly by ma'am Donnie.
In fact, he did me a favor.
My property is up 20% in estimated value since Zoran announced he wanted to be mayor.
20%.
People getting out.
Latest poll, Atlas, good poll, nailed the Obama, I'm sorry, the Trump.
Kamala Harris race.
Exactly. Atlas is out of Brazil.
Here's what they say.
Zoraimandani, 41%.
Andrew Como, 34th, Sleaworth 24.
Vote, of course, is tomorrow.
And it's going to be the highest turnout in quite some time.
Everybody's jazzed.
Now, services in public safety are the two big things
that if ma'am Donnie is elected,
are going to be right forefront.
Services being going to pick up your garbage,
they're going to clean up the city, traffic, congestion, pollution.
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joining us now is uh john chelf this is a great booking we got here uh mr chell just retired a few
weeks ago as chief of department for new york city police department he was the highest
ranking uniformed officer in the department for the last couple of years he joins us from
staten island that's a pretty good lead in for you chief right thank you sir sound pretty good
Thank you.
Are you moving out of here?
If Mandami wins?
No, I'll be staying right here.
Just trying to do my part and support the city the best I can.
But like you said, if he wins, the whole paradigm of public safety is going to shift to a social
network versus a law enforcement network.
And, you know, in some places that works a little bit in policing, but it really has the potential
to hurt this whole city as it relates to public safety.
Give me some specifics on what you see.
happening? Well, first look at his rhetoric. He's no fan of the police department by
his own words. When you hear his rhetoric about he wants to maintain staffing levels. Well,
what does that mean? We're already down 1,000 cops. And about 3,800 change can leave in January.
So he doesn't want to hire more cops and we need more cops. Look at his rhetoric as it relates
to crime. He's kind of nuanced. Well, I didn't say I don't want prostitution, but I want
decriminalize it. I didn't say I don't want to enforce misdemeanors, which those are those perception
laws, right? But I don't want cops folks on low level offenses. So he's sending signals out
here that he wants more of a social network. And to pay for that, what about 1.8 billion
interest community action teams? That's going to come from the police department budget.
That's really going to hurt. Because, Bill, you know, this city's 24-7, 365. Every minute something
happens here.
Well, I do know that, and I know a lot about policing, as you know.
And what I see is that 911 calls will be delayed because there just physically aren't going to be enough cops on the shifts to answer them as quickly as they need to be answered.
The morale in a police department, setting up civilian review boards to Monday morning quarterback everything the cops do in the street.
And these review boards, they don't like the police.
They're anti-police.
So before you left, Mandami was obviously in play.
Generally speaking, how did the police see this?
Well, you just hate it.
Morale is hurting.
It's hurting because we're understaffed and we'll work too hard.
And here's something you probably don't know, Bill.
The cops want a great contract, and they don't have one.
But their biggest complaint of all, to all the unions,
and I dealt with them every day, was the civilian complaint.
me reboard. If he gets his way, which is a ballot issue for next year, to have the civilian
complaint and revoir be the final arbiter of complaints against cops, you will see a mass
exodus. No cop is going to stay to let some 20-year-old kid who's not an investigator,
pretending to be an investigator, who's going to adjudicate laws against a police department.
Sure. That will be a backbreaker. Well, it puts the cops in danger because they can be sued
civilly. I mean, you can break them by filing a lawsuit and assault or whatever. But what we have
been following is the assaults on police, physical assaults, people punching them, kicking them,
all of that. And those crimes have risen dramatically, or am I wrong? They're up about 40%,
4.0% since bear reform, and the conviction rate for a felony conviction for attacking
in a police officer is on an abysmal 6%. Wow. This is why recidivism, as much as we brought
crime down, because we have a 30% rising crimes in this bear reform. So we're fighting this new
platform of crime, about about $126,000,000 crimes a year, and we're getting it down, one, two,
three, four percent, because we suffer from recidivism. We're going to, we suffer from recidivism.
We suffer from lack of prosecution.
Now the ADAs, they inherited bare reform from our state legislative.
But another actor here was not doing their job with the judges.
They're confusing their ideology for the law.
The whole system is messed up here, Bill.
It's the DAs too, bragging, and particularly brag in Manhattan and Darcel Clark in
Bronx.
You know the case of the two NYPDs who were attacked on a subway platform in the Bronx
on videotape. Both of them had to go to the hospital with three attackers, two were arrested
in charge. That case has been adjourned 20 times, two zero. They don't want to prosecute
Darcel Clark and the Bronx doesn't want to prosecute these thugs. They're out. They've been
out. They haven't spent, I don't think they spent even an overnight in jail.
I'll tell you something else, Bill. Okay, first of all, think about what happened. You're smoking,
a cigarette, police officer asks you to distinguish the cigarette or leave. And their response
is to a full frontal attack. Yeah. You get arrested for assault to a police officer. You go in
front of a judge and the judge lets them out. Now, five months later, Mr. McCleary gets locked up
for an illegal gun. That's one of the guys charged. Yes. Yep, he's one of the two that
charged us all too. He gets locked up for a gun and he's still out. He's a two-time walking
indictment. Right. Walking around our streets. This is broken. Sure, but that's Albany and
that's the legislature. It's not Mandami, but Mandami sympathizes with that. But what annoyed me on
this case, other than the obvious travesty of a German 20 times, is that the police unions
didn't stand up. All right? They didn't. They should be out there with signs in front of Clark's
office. They should be screaming and yelling. Nobody knows about the case. And these poor officers,
if you and everybody in the cops know, they know they're not going to get a lot of support
if they even get shot. And that's the final word. You got a guy who's soft on crime and
don't question he's soft on crime. You got a budget cutter who's going to take money away
from the police. You got 911 with the innocent people in New York who are set upon by dangerous
criminals. That's their last line of defense. And that's going to collapse, I predict right now.
Last word. It's a recipe for disaster. Response times are going to go higher. Calls for service
are up 20%. And then if you're going to hamstring the cops, they are not going to be proactive.
they're going to be reactive.
They're not going to take chances
and the collective effect
is going to really hurt the city.
We already came back from bail reform
from 2022 because we were stuck in COVID.
I don't know if we can come back a second time.
I don't know.
Mandani in four years is going to do so much damage
not only to the police
but to the social fabric of the city
almost will be unrecognizable.
Hey, Chief, we really appreciate it.
Enjoy your retirement and we'll talk again soon.
hope. Thank you. Thank you, sir. All right. Chicago is worse than New York, but I think
New York will get worse than Chicago if Mandani wins tomorrow. So there is a suburb called Oak
Park. Now listen to this. Halloween night, 500 young people, teenagers gather for a,
not a riot. They call it a teen takeover. So the cops here shots. You know, it's kind of
predictable. There's no racial element here, by the way. It's a mixed crew, all races. And they're
running down, they run a while, and nobody does anything. There was not one arrest. Not one.
And you don't think the people in Oak Park were afraid as 500 people, young people.
Obviously, a couple have guns, at least. This is Chicago. Cook County.
government shut down okay so day 34 total delays over the weekend of airliners almost 17,000 delays
coast to coast almost a thousand cancellations I got to fly to L.A. on Wednesday I may be hitchhiking
if you see me pick me up I'm hitchhiking west it's bad
It's bad. Now, I'd appeal to the air traffic controls just for safety.
Show up. You'll get your money. You're going to get your money because this thing will get solved.
It's frustrating for everybody. But show up.
You know, don't call it sick. And don't do that.
Because it's, you know, you don't want to paralyze the entire nation and put people in physical jeopardy.
It's the appeal.
Government is stealing from you.
about this we really this is incredible there are five cities that have set up secret cameras
and dropped speed limits within the city limits so low you can't go that slow they are
Washington DC New York City Chicago Philadelphia and San Francisco okay the biggest
cities in the country, not Los Angeles. So here's the scam. In the city limits of New York
City, I live here, and D.C. because I saw it first stand in D.C. It dropped the speed limit to
20 or 25 miles an hour. You go faster on a bike. All right? So if you don't live in a city,
say you're coming from the suburb. You don't know that. So you're there and you're going 40
maybe because that's doing boom you get put on a camera you get a ticket in the mail could be
a hundred 150 more lose it of revenue uh Philadelphia in two years collected 23 million dollars
doing this scam New York City two years 22 million in fines New York City stealing money from you
and me. All right. Chicago, almost 100 million tickets given out in 2024 last year. A hundred
million. So this is what it is. These cities all run big deficits because their finances are out of
control. And now they go, well, how can we take money away from law-abiding people? I mean,
these are people that are speeding. People are going maybe eight miles an hour,
over the 25, you're doing 33, 34, they're going to get you.
Horrible.
Back with the final thought in the moment.
All right, final thought, as I mentioned earlier, I got to go to L.A.
On Wednesday, we'll be there, do the Bill Maher show, Howie Mandel show,
Billy Bush show, lots of shows.
And then I got a cast Confronting Evil for the movies.
Busy.
I'm hoping the plane takes off.
I'll be whining if it doesn't.
But that's what we got going on this week.
But we will be here the rest of the week,
giving you the best information possible.
Thank you very much for watching
and no spin-lose and listening on the radio.
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