Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - President Trump's  Face Off With the Press, Attorney Joseph Tully on the Latest Epstein Files Development, & Mexico Rejects Trump's Offer to Help

Episode Date: November 20, 2025

Hey BillOReilly.com Premium and Concierge Members, welcome to the No Spin News for Wednesday, November 19, 2025. Stand Up for Your Country.  Talking Points Memo: During the Crown Prince’s White House visit, Trump allowed the press to ask questions. Bill explains why that decision was a mistake. Criminal defense attorney Joseph Tully joins the No Spin News to weigh in on the latest developments in the Epstein files and allegations that the FBI may have suppressed evidence. Bill reviews the deals made this week between the United States and Saudi Arabia. Why did Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum reject Trump’s offer of military intervention against the cartels? Final Thought: Bill looks back on his time as an ABC News correspondent. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to the No Spin News. Wednesday, November 19, 2025, stand up for your country. Really good program tonight. Stay with us till the end. Got a good kick around the show. So as everybody knows, President Trump is fed up with the press. but he still gives more access to the media than any other president in modern times by far.

Very perplexing. He knows he's going to get hammered and gives the access anyone. That is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. So this really played out yesterday. So the Prime Minister of Saudi Arabia, Muhammad bin Salman comes to the USA, big dog and pony show, sorry about the cliché, and Salman and Trump are buddies.

Salman's investing a trillion dollars into the USA, so he says, all right, so they go all over what they're going to do, and we'll get into that in a moment, but they're having a good time, big dinner last night. And today, it carried over to today. This is big because Saudi Arabia is extremely wealthy, can help the USA economically, can help the USA with Putin and Iran. So, there are our pals now. Under Biden, they were not our pals, which is a better situation, I think you know. So there is President Trump, most powerful man in the world, sitting next to bin Salman, who doesn't believe in the free press at all. And if you ever were rude to him in Saudi Arabia, your head would be rolling in the sand.

All right. Enter Chief White House correspondent for ABC News, Mary Bruce. Okay. Now, she's been on the case since 2021. She is a notorious Trump. Bader. And Mary did not let us down yesterday. Roll the tape. Is it appropriate, Mr. President, for your family to be doing business in Saudi Arabia while your president, is that a conflict of interest? And your royal highness, the U.S.

intelligence concluded that you orchestrated as a brutal murder of a journalist. 9-11 families are furious that you are here in your office. Who are you with? Who are you? Who are? And the same to you, Mr. President. Now, who are you with? I'm with ABC News, sir. You with who? ABC News, sir. Fake news. ABC fake is one of the worst in the business, but I'll answer you a question. I have nothing to do with a family business. I have left, and when I've devoted 100% of my energy, what my family does is fine. They do business all over.

They've done very little with Saudi Arabia, actually. I'm sure they could do a lot. Okay. Now, the questions were legitimate. I would have asked them, but not in the accusatory way, Ms. Bruce did. She was not looking to elicit information. This is the key.

When you are a White House correspondent or any other valid repertorial job, your task is to get information to the American public. That is not what Mary Bruce wanted to do. She wanted to gotcha. She wanted to embarrass. You could hear it in her voice, the tone. Where was it? Now, here's what she could have said, right?

This is what she could have said. Mr. President, in a calm matter, is there any validity to your critics saying that your family is making big money in Saudi Arabia? Simple question, any validity to that? It's not accusatory. And then, to the leader of Saudi Arabia, you know, Mr. Crown Prince or Mr. whatever you want to call it. Is there any validity to the United States intelligence operations believing that your government assassinated a journalist?

Is it? Yes or no? And you can follow up with a why or why not, depending on the answer. Does that make sense to you? That's how professionals do it. It's how I've done it for more than 50 years. But I've made mistakes, and I'm going to go over one of those mistakes that I think you'll find interesting.

But President Trump knows that Mary Bruce, NBC, CBS, to a lesser extent now that it's been sold, CNN, MS, now, whatever it is. he knows they're in business to embarrass him not to get information, yet he still gives them access. For me, I wouldn't. You know, I just wouldn't do it. Because the Saudis already feel that the American system is ridiculous, so are the Chinese, so does Putin. Again, if you tried that, if Mary Bruce tried that in Riyadh, Riyadh, Riyadh, The capital of Saudi Arabia, it might not be around much too long there. So why?

Why does President Trump allow this stuff to happen time after time, after time, after time? And I think he just likes the joust. I think he wants to show his supporters that he's not going to take any BS, that he'll kick back. I think that's what it is, but we've got it now. And these are important things. So summing up, not going to change. You've got three more years of this. I do respect President Trump being accessible to the press.

I mean, Biden, forget it. Never in a million years is going to answer out of him. And I was wrong. That's not what democracy is. But sometimes you might cut back a little bit. That's a memo. All right, Epstein Mania, only one person in the House and the Senate voted to not release the Justice Department data on Jeffrey Epstein, one.

And he is Congressman Clay Higgins of Louisiana. Apparently he doesn't have cable TV. That's what he said on the radio. Or he's out in Bayouetesh somewhere and he couldn't get back. I don't know. Now, if I were a congressman or senator, I would have voted to release the data because it's the American people clearly want. All right? Most of the American public, according to the policy, just a big conspiracy, government's covering up stuff.

They believe whatever they want to believe. And that's what folks do. We live in an age of conspiracy theory. And it's driven by social media. People make a lot of money doing it. And you know, we don't do that here. All right. So now the data comes out after President Trump signs this bill, which he will.

Attorney General, Pambani is 30 days, put it out, and she will. I'm not expecting anything major. I could be wrong. If there is, we will cover it fairly and clearly. What will we do? Okay. But I am expecting a lot of horror and a lot of things that are very, very wrong. Now, last night on News Nation, which is the best, if you want news coverage, that's the best network.

I'll be on tonight at 8 p.m. Cuomo. It's not because I'm on there. I'm on air a couple of times a week. But they try to be fair. All right. So you got Chris Cuomo last night interviewing a lawyer for one of the victims, alleged victims. Very legitimate. Of course you're going to do that.

The woman's name is Annie Farmer. Okay? And she's been around for a while. She made all kinds of accusations about Epstein and powerful people, but she didn't name the powerful people and all of this stuff. Okay. So if you were just watching this interview, you would say, well, that poor woman, you know, what she went through,

and we need to get all the information. to punish the people who harm that woman. If you're a decent person, that's what you're thinking, listening to this interview with Chris Cuomo. But to his credit, Cuomo then puts on the next guest, Alan Dershowitz, who was accused, falsely it looks like, of doing illegal things with Epstein, okay, and who represented Epstein.

Here's what Dershowitz said, go. But I worry that if names are released of people who are accused, without there being information released, that might cast doubt on the credibility of the accusers like this former person. Your lawyer who just presented her case never mentioned the fact that she said, I have a hard time with Jews, all the Jewish people I met are pedophiles. Do you believe a person like that? It would take you two minutes to destroy her on cross-examination. She should not be believed. And that is the point, unfettered information released to the public. The public is no blank and clue who's credible and who isn't, who's lying and who isn't.

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Yes, 20%. No 59. This is when President Trump was not. not going to put it out. Unsure 21. Do you think the government is hiding Epstein's alleged client list? Yes, 70%.

No eight, unsure 22. I mean, the public is already formed its opinion about this based on nothing. Based on nothing. Okay? So I'm sitting here and I'm going,

okay, we're in which hunt land. Joining us now from Redding, California, nice town in the northern part of the state, Joseph Tully, who is a criminal defense attorney who has appeared with me before. It's an honest man in my assessment, and that's what we're looking for. All right, counselor, number one,

and the way I'm framing this is okay. I'm a senator or a congressperson. I'm going to want to vote yes on the release, but I am very, very uneasy about what may happen. Do you see it the same way? I, sure. I do have concerns because, as Mark Twain said, something to the effect of, you know, a lie will go around the world, you know, much quicker than the truth can put his pants on in the morning. And we have a system of justice of innocent until proven guilty. And that must always be adhered to.

But I do share your concern that what the release of these files that unchecked, unfettered information can go to the public, they will draw the worst conclusions and kind of run with it. And we'll have sort of guilt by association or guilt within the press. So that's a fact. That's a fact. That's going to happen. And then the people who are in business to destroy Trump will cherry pick what they want. And the people who are in business to destroy the Democrats or Bill Clinton or wherever

may be will cherry pick what they want. We've already seen that. Now, when the House Oversight Committee released some of the documents, we had a bunch of emails by Jeffrey Epstein himself. Who cares? That's hearsay. The man is in prison, all right? The man has been convicted.

And what he says after the fact, it doesn't matter. yet the press is reporting this as gospel truth. I'm sitting there, stunned, cares what this thug, this low-life says. It doesn't matter. It's hearsay could be introduced in any court proceeding, correct? Correct, yes. I mean, there are exceptions to the hearsay rule. But in looking through that from a legal perspective, I didn't see anything that if, from

Donald Trump's perspective, that was any kind of, you know, no, an actual threat against him or actual accusation. Factually, you're correct, but that's not what the press did. Jeffrey Epstein says, I can destroy him. That's what the press did. You saw it? Sure. That's hysteria.

Yes. While ignoring the fact that you had two Americans casually talking about blackmailing or possibly blackmailing a presidential candidate. They focused on his statements, which really didn't amount to any sort of accusation against Donald Trump. No, it was a general statement. So why do you believe that what our discussion is based on now has been suppressed? There is not a skepticism being shown by the national media about this information at all. It's gleeful.

let me run and exploit this. Why do you think that's happening? So I do think that the water has built up behind the dam in terms of public disclosure and transparency. I think the American system is based on a transparency of government more so than any other country in the history of the world. With the Epstein files, I think it's pretty clear that there's been a withholding of evidence, and the public got very, very fed up, and sort of the pendulum swung to one side, release it, release it now, we're tired of it, we're frustrated, we've been waiting too long, and that, I think, is contributing to the public sentiment where they're very, very upset that the disclosure has not happened.

Okay, when you say, and now I'm in a court of law with you. Well, there's evidence that there's a cover-up. What is that evidence, in your opinion? I don't see evidence of a cover-up. I see evidence of possibly delayed disclosure. Delayed disclosure. Yeah. There's no evidence that evidence has been destroyed, which would be a cover-up.

Okay. Or suppressed. You know, sure. If the evidence is suppressed, and it looks like there might be evidence in the assassination attempt on President Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania, the FBI might have suppressed evidence. And we're going to do that story tomorrow because we're a responsible news agency here. I have to check it. I can't take it out of the New York Post.

I check it myself because it's a serious concern. The FBI suppressed evidence about the shooter, then, you know, we've got to look at it. But in this case, what I'm seeing is I wrote a book called Killing the Witches and the hysteria that all those hundreds of years ago in Massachusetts that led to the death of 20 human beings, exactly the same hysteria, is in play right now, here in America. work. I would agree with you. I think that anytime you give a group of people power that is unchecked, you will end up with injustice. It happened during the Salem witch trials. We had young girls who would show up to court and faint and would go into convulsions while pointing the finger, which we know were false. There were witches that were casting magic spells over them. So in some degree, I see the pendulum

has swung too far in that direction. We do need a balanced approach. We do need reasonable review of the evidence. But that's not going to happen in the U.S. media. There's no way that's ever going to happen. Counsel, thanks very much. We really appreciate your expertise. Thanks for coming on. All right, back to Saudi Arabia. So, as I mentioned, that $1 trillion is being pledged out of Saudis to invest in America's business. And then we're going to sell them a bunch of F-35. fighter planes. I got an email from a liberal friend of mine said, oh, the Saudis are going to give this technology on the F-15s to China. It's really little I can do here because, you know, the guy hates Trump so much. All I said was, number one, you just don't send the planes over

to Saudi Arabia. You send American maintenance and pilots over with the planes to teach the Saudis about the planes. They just don't arrive FedEx. Okay. Number two, we would know that we being the United States Intel, all right, in about 30 seconds if there was any kind of Intel transfer to China about American jet planes sold to Saudi Arabia. Why would they do that? That's self-defeating, self-destructive for them. So, I mean, this is the kind of stuff I've got to deal with every single day. All right, so we're going to send them fighter planes. They're going to buy a bunch of other planes from us. I guess that's part of the trillion. dollar deal. There's going to be some civil nuclear cooperation. I don't know why the Saudis would want, need, you know, it's 100 degrees there all year round. I guess they need air conditioning, but you know, they got more oil. They don't need nuke in there. But anyway, this is going on and on and on and on. All right, let's go to Border Patrol and customs rating Charlotte, North Carolina in an operation called Charlotte's Web, 130 undocumented admirants.

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And that means if you impede a federal investigation by assaulting an ICE officer or even bothering an ICE officer while he or she is conducting a raid on behalf of the federal government, you've got to arrest those people. You've got to charge of people with crime interfering in a federal investigation. It's a felony. I'm tired of hearing whining from the Republicans and conservatives. Yeah, we all know what's going on. This is organized. These organizers are paid. They go to wherever the raids may be, they find out, and they make signs, they give whistles to people,

and all hell breaks loose, okay? And the local Democrats, in this case, North Carolina and Governor Josh Stein, They're fine with that. Roll it. Everyone wants to be safe in their communities. But the actions of too many federal agents are doing the exact opposite in Charlotte.

We've seen masked, heavily armed agents, and paramilitary garb driving unmarked cars, targeting American citizens based on their skin color. All right, well, you know, Governor, put it up there. I want to see an American citizen who is targeted because of his or her skin color. I want you to bring that person out and stand next to that person and tell the story. Okay, I'm tired of this BS.

Now, Stein and Pritzker and Newsom and Wu, the mayor in Boston, they're all big mad, but they don't impede themselves. They don't do it. Now, I don't know whether Attorney General Bondi would have the gumption, or you want to use that word, to charge them with impeding a federal investigation. I don't know. I would. If the law of the land is that you can't be here unless you have proper credentials, well, then the federal government has a responsibility to enforce the law. This isn't complicated. And if you prevent the feds from doing that, then you're arrested and charged with a federal crime. Now, if you just talk about it, that's not a crime.

Boy, is he starting to, you know, enough rhetoric if they impede anybody who impedes arrest federal crime. The only way you're going to stop this. And now Tom Holman, the board of czar, says, ice is going to come to New York City. Now, that'll be a mess. But mandani in there, and so I'm just praying to no violence here. Because this city, eight and a half million people, claustrophobic, boom. All right, let's go to Mexico. So everybody knows that President Trump trying to destroy the drug cartels.

President Steinbaum, Shinebaum of Mexico, doesn't really want to destroy the cartels. Says she does, but did. If she did, she'd have an alliance. with President Trump, whereas Mexican and American military worked together, take these guys out, either kill them or incarcerate them. Because they've been designated terrorists here

in the USA, and Scheinbaum has got warrants, what, 50,000 against them in Mexico. Easy, it's not hard. Joint alliance, break the cartels. Shine bomb, now I don't wanna do it, roll it. Yes, it's not going to happen. In fact, there was a statement afterwards. I've mentioned many times in the conversations I've had with President Trump.

Phone calls where he has suggested on several occasions, or has said, we offer you a military intervention from the United States in Mexico, whatever you need to combat criminal groups. But I have told him on all occasions, that we can collaborate, that they can help us with the information they have, but that we operate in our own territory. Yeah, well, we have been helping you for, what, 40 years with this, and you've done bupkins, getting worse.

They're killing your mayors, they're killing you journalists, they're killing everybody, they control maybe a quarter or a third of the country, and you're not doing anything about it. So I do expect President Trump to take unilateral military action as these cartels. in a form of drones or even raids by special forces. So get ready. All right, it's an interesting story. So there's a senator, Alyssa Slotkin,

Slotkin, Michigan, hates Trump. She gets six elected officials on Capitol Hill. Mark Kelly, who I used to respect, I don't any longer. He is a senator from Arizona, Democrat. They're all Democrats. Chris Eulahan, Chris DeLusio, Maggie Goodlander, Jason Crowe. And they put together a video. And it goes on social media on November 18th.

Okay. And it tells military people, U.S. military, and U.S. intel people, to not obey orders from President Trump. Roll it. We want to speak directly to members of the military and the intelligence community who take risks each day to keep Americans safe.

We know you are under enormous stress and pressure right now. Americans trust their military. But that trust is at risk. This administration is pitting our uniform military and intelligence community professionals against American citizens.

Like us, you all swore an oath. To protect and defend this Constitution. Right now, The threats to our Constitution aren't just coming from abroad, but from right here at home. Our laws are clear. You can refuse illegal orders. What illegal orders? We already have courts that have decide that. So every military person and intel person is supposed to decide for themselves what's legal and illegal? That's anarchy.

Okay? And you're promoting that? So again, it goes right back to I'm tired of hearing all of this rhetoric. So where is Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, and majority leader, Senator John Thorne? Eric Bowling here with a question, do you know what it really takes to keep your edge? It's not comfort, it's not playing it safe. It's walking straight into the fire and coming out stronger on the other side. That's the driving principle behind my podcast, the edge where pressure, risk, and raw performance collide. on this week's episode i sat down with patrick bet david a business legend and media mogul who built his empire from nothing discover how he used pressure and personal fire to create his edge listen and subscribe to eric bolings the edge available now wherever you get your podcasts

You guys have the power to drag those people in front of the ethics committees and challenge their behavior. Why are you not doing it? This is obviously a suppression of the Constitution. These people are trying to tell the military to rebel. And you're not doing anything about it? It's the same thing. If you interfere with ICE, then you are charged with the crime. Now, you can't charge the senators and congresspeople with crimes,

but you can bring them in and embarrass the hell out of them. So I told Hannity, why don't you put a call into Johnson and Thune, get them on your program, ask them. You're going to bring these people up in front of ethics charges? publicans have one more year of power on Capitol Hill and they could well lose the next time around. Sitting there, allowing this? Boy, telling you, you got to move on it. And those people should be ashamed of themselves.

That's not dissent. Okay? That's not. Now I'm going to be petty. Ready for O'Reilly to be petty? I try not to be petty, but I'm going to be in the final thought of the day. I used to work for ABC News, so a lot of you guys know that. Peter Jennings was a guy I worked under.

And at 3 o'clock in the afternoon, there was a news brief every day after general hospital or before something. And Jennings never wanted to do it. So who are you going to call? Ghostbuster O'Reilly, roll the tape. An ABC News brief now from New York, Bill O'Reilly. Good afternoon. The Teamsters have chosen a new president. The union surprised many by choosing William McCarthy and not Jackie Presser's hand-picked air. Presser died last week. Three days after the plane went down in the South China Sea, three U.S. Navy flyers were rescued today by a Vietnamese ship. And wholesale prices rose 4 tenths of a percent last month. The drought had a moderate impact on food prices, which rose over 1% in June.

And that is News Brief. I'm Bill O'Reilly. Oh, how about that, huh? Now, the reason that I did that, and I did it a couple times a week, was because I was the only correspondent in the New York Bureau who could read that fast. And Jennings, Jennings, he liked me. Now they have David Muir. David Muir.

Now, remember Peter Jennings. Picture it. Peter Jennings, there's Muir. Okay? He wears his same jacket, tie, and shirt every night. Every night. five nights a week same outfit jennings got his clothes at savile row in london was a dapper guy a little pocket hanky that i never wear all right he goes how come you don't wear a pocket square

this is jennings to me i go because i'm from levittown we wear pocket squares to get beat up all right now i really respected and sometimes enjoyed my tenure at abc news i learned an enormous amount a totally different place now. It's not a knock on Muir. I don't know Muir. But I do know that last night, it's broadcast, he said one word 37 times. David Muir said one word 37 times in 22 minutes tonight.

That means David Muir is not writing his script. I don't even think he's reading it except on a teleprompter. I don't use a teleprompter, by the way. I'm sorry by that. I don't use a teleprompter. When I talk, I talk to you from my mind. So it's so different. It is so different.

So I asked my producer, I said, look, maybe I'm being unfair to Muir. Because earlier this week, I watched ABC evening news, and he said the word tonight 41 times. I said, maybe it was a bad night. Last night, I said, put somebody else on it 37 times. Hey, David, we know it's tonight. Okay, we got it. All you have to do is it's in the title,

World News Tonight. And maybe you say it two, three times. 41 times? No. And Jennings, Jennings had a pen. All right? And if your script, if you looked at your script

and it wasn't perfect, had a cliche in it, that's why I'm the way I am. Jennings was one of my mentor. I watched everything he did. I don't know whether you notice in the clip I used, but I kind of looked a little like a young Peter Jennings. All right. I mean, straight, good posture.

Jennings is very, very strong anger person. Rather, not so much because I work for him, too. All right, so I don't know whether you enjoy that or not, but I figured I'd give it a shot. It was a little petty, and I don't mean to take shots at David Muir, just to get there. You got to give the guy credit. That's not an easy climb. Let me tell you. Thank you for watching and listening to the No Spin News.

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