Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - Revenge vs. Retribution, Eric Bolling on the Impact of President Trump's Tariffs, Gov. Shapiro Targeted by Political Violence, & Blue Origin Sends Female Celebrities to Space

Episode Date: April 15, 2025

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He's never misled me one time, and he's been mad at me. But even then, he would just kind of ignore me or send me text or something telling me how terrible I am, you know, that kind of thing. But he didn't, hasn't misled me. So if he says there's good things I had, I tend to believe it. But I can't get any more specific than that at this point. When I can, I will. I can tell you, I have the best contacts. You know, Hannity get very good contacts in the Trump administration, very good. but I'm on a par and I'm not competing with Sean

I'm just telling you that there are certain people who know what's going on and there are certain people that don't and so I'm glad you're here listening to me because I do now I want to spend a little time today on Donald Trump the president and how he is governing

and that is the subject of this evening talking points memo So everything to Trump is personal, everything. He's not like most presidents and most politicians where, you know, they forget about things after 24 hours. They're mad and then they forget. Trump does forget about things, but he incorporates his policy vision on a personal basis, right? What he wants, what he believes. And so you see a lot of personal stuff.

And right now there is a controversy, not a major one, but somewhat of a controversy, about how he's treating certain people in his past. Okay? Now, some say it's revenge. Others say it's retribution. Let's define the two terms first. Revenge is to harm someone as punishment for harm they have done to you. And I think every human being on the planet has at one time or another either committed revenge or contemplated it seriously. Retribution is deserved and severe punishment.

Okay. So that is, let's say, the Nazi party in Germany or the Tojo regime in Japan. you annihilated them. We annihilated them with the help of our allies because if we did not, they would continue murdering people all over the world. That wasn't wrong for us to annihilate them. I know. Some people say, Hiroshima Nagasaki at Tom, we've gone through all that. But for me, if I'm the commander-in-chief, I'm the president. I'm annihilating both of them. I'm not shooting prisoners of war or anything like that, but it's total victory. Okay?

And if they don't stop, they die. Retribution. Again, if you did not do that, these people would continue their evil. It's like that in real life. You all know people who are evil. Well, maybe I shouldn't say that. Most of us know people who are evil. They hurt people time and time and time again.

and some of them are stopped and some of them aren't. If you stop a person like that, you have to have the facts and the evidence, okay? That's retribution, not revenge. All right. So let's look at four human beings that Donald Trump is after. John Bolton, former national security advisor, Mark Esper, former defense secretary. Bolton wrote a book and said that Trump was stunningly uninformed and unfit to be president. Esper wrote a book and said that Trump was unprincipled and wanted to shoot protesters.

Okay. So those guys are in the revenge zone. Donald Trump is, you know, he took away their national security thing and Trump had heard him either. I don't know about the retribution there because I don't think Bolton and Esper can do any further damage. It could be wrong, though. To others, former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Mark Millie, and director of European Affairs for the U.S. National Security Council, Alexander Vindman. Millie wrote him another book. No, Millie was quoted in Bob Woodward's book as saying that Trump is a fascist and a dangerous person.

Vindman testified in front of Congress in November 2019 about Trump talking to Zelensky in a quote, improper way. All right. Now, Millie and Vindman are both finished again, just like Esper and Bolton. They can't do any further harm, but Trump has got them on a radar screen. Law firms, there are 10, maybe more, that Trump is denying any federal access, no business can be done. Paul Weiss, awful firm, terrible, I had to deal with them. Covington and Burling, Perkins Coy, Wilkie, Foreign Gallagher. Weiss folded.

He's giving Donald Trump $40 million in promo, bono legal services. free loot. So did Far and Gallagher, 100 million. Perkins Coy, they represented Hillary Clinton 2016, up to their eyebrows in the phony Russian investigation. Covington and Burling, they're representing former special counsel Jack Smith. Now here, all four of those firms, in my estimation could and will once Trump leaves the presidency do damage to people. This is retribution here to me on these four and others too. Okay, because they're in business to hurt people for money. That's what they do. They hurt people for money. Okay. Now, here's one. This is an interesting call. Sixty minutes. So Trump has ordered an investigation by the

Federal Communications Commission. Why? Well, last night, here's what he said. said on social media, quote, almost every week, 60 minutes being sued for billions of dollars for the fraud they committed in 2024 presidential election with their interview of failed presidential candidate Kamala Harris mentions the name Trump in a derogatory and defamatory way. But this weekend's broadcast tops them all. They did not one, but two major stories on Trump, one having to do with Ukraine, which I say is a war that never should have happened if the 2020 election had been rigged. In other words, if I were president and the other story, it's having to do with Greenland.

Casting our country is led by me, falsely, inaccurately, and fraudulently. I'm so honored to be suing 60 Minutes, CBS Fake News, and Paramount, unquote. Okay, so CBS News, is this revenge or retribution? There's no doubt 60 Minutes is trying to get Donald Trump. That's a fact. There's no balance there at all. New regime over there? Relatively new.

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I think by trying to destroy the president in the United States. So I'm putting this in the retribution column here. How about you? Finally, this is not unusual President Trump's revenge or retribution take. I'll give you five modern presidents who were pretty much as bad as Trump. Teddy Roosevelt, Franklin Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy, and John F. Kennedy used his brother, Bobby Kennedy, who was Attorney General to get who he wanted gotten, Lyndon Johnson the absolute worst, and Richard Nixon, who had a printed enemies list. Now, I write about all

it at in confronting the presidents. So this isn't new, these guys, and I'm not doing what aboutism, I'm just taking the historical record and showing you that once a person is elected president, a lot

of them go after people. There's no doubt that that has happened and is happening. Now, I am sympathetic somewhat to Trump's jihad, let me use that word, against his opponents. Because for 30 years, ever since I started doing national commentary, I've been attacked

by vicious, horrible people who hurt other people for money, for power, for ideology. I know who they are. Now, some of them I have taken care of, and some of them I haven't. I can't for whatever reason. But my instinct is to take them off the board, not hurt them physically or anything like that. I do it all legally, right? Because they don't just do it to me. They're just evil, in my opinion.

But I've experienced the evil directly up close here. And, you know, when I see them and they never apply. If somebody apologized, if somebody said, look, I'm sorry. I maybe overdid it. I don't really like you, but I shouldn't use those tactics. I would forgive them. I'm compelled to do that because I'm a Christian. I have to do it.

But they don't. They're arrogant, and they do it to other people, and I watch them. So I have to be honest, my emotion lies in the Trump area, and that's the memo. All right, let's update you on the tariffs, Chinese President Xi Jinping is going to Vietnam, Malaysia, and Cambodia. Hey, President Xi, let me just break it to you. Those folks have no money at all, okay? They cannot help you. You're not going to buy your stuff because they don't have any money.

All right. And so I don't know where you're going there because, man, now maybe he's trying to sneak in. Chinese goods under the Vietnamese label, but that's going to be easily exposed. So I don't even know what this is. You know, if China loses the U.S. market, and I still believe there's going to be a detente here, it's hosed. It's just screwed because we have the money. We buy the stuff.

The meleys aren't going to buy your stuff. They don't have any money. All right. So he's over there. Trump Economic Advisor Kevin Hassard says that dozens of tariff deals are going to be made shortly. And the quote is, the progress has been astonishing. Okay. Now, all of the other broadcasters after I just reported that would have said, we'll see.

But I don't say we'll see because it's a cliche and it's stupid. This is what President Trump is saying. told me directly. So Hasser is saying what the president is saying. Bill O'Reilly here, I recently sat down with President Trump in Florida, and I can tell you he is laser focused on helping Americans prosper during his second term. That's why I have joined forces with Alexander Green, chief investment strategist at the Oxford Club,

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Eric Bowling. Don't bring him in yet. I just want to give his background first. So Eric Bowling, when I was at the factor at Fox, he would sub for me and the ratings would go down. But, you know, they went down for everybody. That's up for me. But he did a decent job. I mean, you know, he ran a show, and then he was over at a couple of other places, but his background is in economics. And he was a board member of the New York Mercantile Exchange, big shot in oil and gas trading. So he knows the economic world. And he joins us now from West Palm Beach, Florida, where he airs daily on Real America's Voice, Dish, YouTube, all of that internet stuff. So, bowling, you okay down there in Florida?

you all right we miss you down here bill it's always good to have you in the studio walking around you look a lot a little like manor g crabs with the goatee but that's all right um it's okay that that that compliment was amazing especially coming from the guy who i did sit in for over 250 times over 11 year period so i must have been ratings went down but they must not have gone down that much mr bill o'reilly you know when when uh when one william sat in from me they really went down, but when you went, you weren't that bad. So look, I know you've had some discussions on your programs and you had some criticism about the tariffs. Where do you think they are now? So I stand firm, Bill. I'm a free market, true, like complete free market

tier. I just believe that government shouldn't get their hands in any form of the markets. Now I do, again, let me qualify that with. I am really, really. rooting for the Trump tariffs to work. I hope they do. I'm hearing they are. As Kevin Hasser said, it's going to be astounding when they start telling us what they've gotten and what they've received. My only issue is I just don't like government interfering in markets. And when I mean government, I mean our government also. But if it's, again, if it's going to be used, I think they lost the messaging bill. Let me let me reframe this. It came out where we're going to raise tariffs to the rest of the world to the level that they're charging us. And,

When they realize they can't do it anymore, their tariffs will come down and our tariffs will come down as well. At some point, it turned to, well, they're all begging to, you know, kind of kiss the ring and come make a deal with us, which was the wrong message for me as a free marketeer. He got back on the message recently over the weekend and said, when they lower them, we'll lower them, and that's what I hope for. I hope for a global no-tar, for a global 10% across the board in two directions. Let's just cut through this. We have no control about China and what China's import tariffs are. We don't. So they can jack up their tariffs.

And same thing with the EU. Hans and Franz can buy stuff from the United States. We ship it over to Hans and Franz in Munich. And they slap a 20% VAT, value-added tax on it, which means Hans and Franz have to charge if they resell whatever they buy from us. They've got to slap 20% more on. American goods can't compete with the German-made goods. That's the game.

We can't control it. So free marketing is really a myth. It isn't free. It's not free anywhere. So what Trump wanted to do was basically say, we're not letting you rip us off anymore. We're the biggest market in the world. We have the most money, the most consumers who can spend, and you're going to play fair. It seems logical to me that that would be a good policy for the United States.

In order to get there, we have to suffer, and Americans don't want to suffer. That's where we are. Again, agree, and that is the theory, and I hope it works, and I really do. I hope it doesn't push us into a global recession, which theoretically could happen. And I'm not suggesting we continue to have a trade imbalance and have a trade, a tariff imbalance with these countries. I'm simply saying there are ways to maybe negotiate other countries bringing down their tariffs. I'll give you an example. China charging us, whatever they want to charge us,

whatever they've been charging us, because we don't even really know. We can talk about this number that they came up with with China's charging us at 32%, which, be honest with you, they made that up, but they used a different metric, not what they told us. Regardless, what we could do is China needs oil, we have a ton of oil, we can produce more oil. We can say, China, you lower your export tariff, your import tariff, U.S. goods going to China, lower it to a reasonable number, let's call it 20%, and we'll only put a 20% tariff on the oil. We'll send you, and we'll send you a ton of liquidified natural gas. That's what will eventually happen.

But China isn't benign, okay? They don't want to give up their unbelievable trade advantage, not only with the United States, but everywhere else. They don't want to give it up. But the mistake that I think the Trump administration made was this. They try to do it too fast. instead of knocking down Canada and Mexico, then going to the EU, then going to China, or whatever order you want to put it in.

And along the way, explain every step to the American people, which they could have done, all right, instead of this tsunami all at once that panicked the worldwide markets that led to the stock market going down, they could have been a more gradual thing. And that's what I would have done. There's a third alternative. I agree with that. There's a third alternative where they could have come up with, okay, so we buy a lot of garbage, trinkets, crap, we buy a lot from China, right? And we sell them technology and important goods and whatnot.

We could have gone out to the rest of the world, Taiwan, Vietnamese, you just mentioned them, and say, you know what, you want to build a manufacturing plant there. We don't want to pay this 32%, 35% China tax anymore. We'll buy from you instead of them. Here it is. The United States is the wealthiest consumer that we're a huge buyer walking into a mall. The world is the mall. We have this massive credit card with the trillions of dollars of credit on it. And we go, you know what?

That store, China right there, is charging too much for the same thing I can buy from that store over there, Taiwan. You know, I'm going to go over there and watch what happens. China drops their tariff, drops their price to compete for us. Everyone wants our dollar. That's a more, I would call it, free market solution to drop in global terms. Okay, but that would be incredibly, incredibly complicated to do. Now, Davidia out at Taiwan just announced today, it's going to build a big chip plant in the United States. That's a huge victory for the USA, by the way.

Do you believe that? Do I believe they will do it? Yes, I do believe that because you made the deal. I hope you do too. The CEO made the deal directly with it. to deal directly with Trump. No, it's inconceivable that they wouldn't do it now. Well, so Apple says we're going to do a half a trillion dollars. We're going to build here. These CEOs are catering. They're couthing to Howard Lutnik and the group and making a lot of promises.

But we don't know if they're, I hope they do. And by the way, that's 10 years down the road, Bill. It's not a chip manufacturing plant in the next two or three years. Look, the reason I believe it will happen is Trump can hurt them. Yes, Trump is out come 2028, but he can hurt them now if we don't see progress and fast progress. And he will. You go back on a deal with Trump. He's going to find a way. Anyway, Boland, we're glad you're doing well down.

Retribution or revenge? If you lie to the president of the United States about intentions, that's retribution. You know, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, game on me. That's for retribution. Glad you're doing well down there in South Florida bowling. We love it, Bill. Right, we'll talk soon again. Thanks for helping us out.

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Okay. So now we have zeroed in on three of the most. And they're, you know, there are 50 of them, but let's do three. Chicago, Mayor Brandon Johnson basically gives a finger to the federal government. All right. Chicago receives $2.5 billion in federal funds, $2.5 billion in federal grant money. And Trump's going to cut that off. Now, some of that is summer food for poor kids, a lot of that.

and you're going to hear a scream out of there, that's going to hurt that city. Boston, Michelle Wu, okay? She's another one. It basically says, I don't care what you say. We're not going to cooperate with you. 300 million. For Boston, it's not a big town.

That's a lot of money. Housing, city services, other general things. And finally, Denver. Mike Johnston, another radical left mayor, 100 million, mostly for education. it. So President Trump's going to cut that money back. Now, there'll be lawsuits. You know that. Everybody will sue. But look at Maine. That governor of Maine going to the Oval Office and saying to Trump, hey, I'm not going to do the trans athlete thing. They're hurting, boy, because those lawsuits

take a long time. And they cost the city and state to do that. They cost them a lot of money. So it's bringing up today, he's going after the sanctuary cities. Kilmar Garcia, who was mistakenly deported to El Salvador. He is an El Salvadoran, 29 years old. He has a wife who's an American, five-year-old child is an American. He is now in El Salvador. The president of El Salvador came to Washington today. Okay?

The Supreme Court has ruled that the Trump administration's got to bring this guy back to the USA. say. But the Salvadoran president says he's not going to do it. And Trump and all of the administration people, including Secretary of State Marco Rubio, said, we're not going to do it. So Mr. Garcia, he's over there. I don't know if he's in custody or not. Now, the Trump administration alleges he's MS-13 gang member. But if there were the case, case, why is he here legally? See, a judge in Maryland gave this man asylum privileges. He's in the asylum process now. And then the Supreme Court rules, you've got to be brought back. The Trump administration will have to obey that law, that ruling from the Supreme

Court, even though they're huffing and puffin and they should. You can't have anarchy. All right, you know how I feel about that. I don't know the guy, I don't know what the guy did, but if the Supreme Court says, bring him back, you bring them back. All right, the attack on Pennsylvania governor, Josh Shapiro. It looks like, according to the mother of Cody Balma, 38 years old, who hopped the fence at the governor's mansion in Harrisburg, and threw a bomb into the house in the middle of the night,

which burned the living room. Nobody was hurt, but four kids. kids, Sophia, Jonah, Max, and Rubin, all sleeping in the house, as was the governor and his wife. And this guy hops the fence. Where's the security on the house? What are you doing out there? That's number one. And number two, there were, you know, Shapiro thought it was an anti-Semitic play. It doesn't look like it now because, again, the man's mother's says, look, he's deranged. Stop taking his medicine, and we told the authorities about him, and that's who he is.

So I think that is the case, but I'm following it. Russia kills 34, at least more human beings in Ukraine over the weekend. Putin says it was a mistake. Yeah. They're not going to stop until Trump takes a real stringent banking action against Moscow. That's what's going to have to happen. I hope Putin stops, but I don't think he's going to. You've got to punish him.

Putin's watching a China thing now. That's what he's watching. Now he says, okay, the U.S. is too much now. He's dealing with us. You're dealing with China. Oh, we're just going to ride this out. That's what Putin's doing. Iran talks, the foreign minister of Iran says they were very close to a framework for negotiations.

I have no idea what that is. Anyway, they meet again on April 19th. That's Saturday, I guess, right? Holy Saturday. And Stephen Whitkoff is the U.S. negotiated there. Iran's going to have to give in and let UN weapons inspectors inspect the nukes. They're going to have to stop. Smart life.

Okay, interesting story. So I needed socks. This is one of my favorite things going shopping for socks. And I don't know. I'd have to go. So they're Bloomingdale's. And there's the socks. So I go over.

This will be easy, right? I'll get some socks. They're all made in China. All right, Ralph Lauren, Polo Bay, China, China, China, China. I would have taken Malaysia, I would have taken Honduras, I would have taken it. I'm not buying China stuff. I'm not buying Chinese food. I don't even like Chinese food, okay?

I'm not buying Chinese socks. So I had to walk out of here. There were no American socks. And so now if you see me on the street and I don't have any socks on, you know why. on, you know why. So this is about choices. If every American consumer would just stop and say, you know, China's not our friend. And I'm not going to buy any more Chinese stuff. Wouldn't have to have tariffs or anything like that. Nobody buys anything from China. Right? Okay. Smart life. Make good choices, even when you're buying socks.

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Ladies of space, everyone. So, this morning, how many of them? Six. Six ladies, some of them famous, were launched on the blue origin. Roll the tape. Four, command engine start. Two, one, ignition. Remember Ralph Cramnan and the Honeymooners?

To the moon, Alice. Well, not quite, but they're getting there. Eleven minutes of flight time. They went 62 miles above the earth, little weightlessness. And Lauren Sanchez, Katie Perry, the singer, Gail King, the CBS person, Amanda Nguyen, civil rights activist, Ayesha Bo and Carrie Ann Flint. Aisha Bow is a former NASA person and Carrie Ann Flynn is a film producer.

So they all went into space. And I don't know really why they went, but they went. And it was for Gail King, you know, good publicity for the CBS morning show. Now I asked my staff, I said, you know, I haven't heard about these morning shows. Get me the ratings on them. Listen to this. This is incredible.

So for the week of March 31st, that was what, two weeks ago? The CBS Morning Show, Gail King and two other guys, had less than 2 million viewers. Less than 2 million. Today's show had 2,6, $2,600,000, and Good Morning America had 2,8. and all of them were down from last year. And when I used to go on these shows to publicize my books, they were doing $5 million, $6 million. They're falling apart. And the reason is they're boring, and they've alienated all the center-right people

and all the conservative and traditional people, because it's all liberal across the board, except for Jenna Bush. She's not liberal, the daughter of President Bush the Younger. But the whole presentation is, you know, woke and people go, you know, when I get up in the morning, I'm already woke. I don't want more woke on television. So these shows are in trouble. Stay in history, April 14th, 1912, the Titanic sinks.

to the bottom of the North Atlantic. Everybody knows the story. Movie was huge. You got it. Some interesting facts, though. The people who bought this boat never thought it was going to sink. So they only had lifeboats that could carry 1,200 people. But there were 2,200 people on board the Titanic going from Ireland to New York.

So a thousand people, no matter what happened, couldn't get off the boat. So they didn't have enough lightboats. Then they were supposed to have a lightboat drill, but Captain Edward Smith called it off that morning. The Titanic hit the iceberg at night. Okay? That morning was supposed to have a big lightboat drill, but they didn't have it. They called it off. So nobody knew what they were doing.

They didn't even know where the light boats were or what they do. Okay. So the thing goes down. and a bunch of people couldn't get on the lightboat. So they jumped in the water and they're dead. Hypothermia. Boom, you can't jump in that kind of water. The whole system shuts down.

And then there were the people who got on to some kind of chair or floating device. But when this mammoth ship sunk, it sucked them all down with it. So 710 people survived out of 2,200. Boy, 1,517 people died, and 90 minutes later, the British ship, the Carpathia showed up to take the lifeboat people off the water. But the worst nautical disaster ever happened 113 years ago today. Back with my voyage to the DMV. All right, final thought of the day, I had to go and get my real ID driver's license in New York State. nightmare wasn't that bad I have to say it wasn't that bad now what is a real ID so as

of May 7th we all have to have it if we want to get on an airplane or you have to bring a passport but you go in to the DMV in your state and you fill out an amazing amount of forms show them your old license you bring your passport you got to bring your Social Security number and I give you a real ID why are they doing this because the Fed say this is this idea is more secure and reliable and it's harder to fake it so there's a lot of bogus driver's licenses and uh social security cards and all that this is very hard to fake so you're not going to be able to get on a plane if you don't have this real ID unless you bring a passport so I went down and everybody's very professional I wait about a half hour it wasn't too big as I was

watching the crowd and I'll do a little commentary on that later on in the week, but I have to say I was pleasantly surprised. Okay, so you got to do it, check it out. And we really appreciate you watching and listening on the radio to the No Spin News tonight. See you more.