Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - Robert Mueller Makes First Public Statement—Brett Tolman Opines
Episode Date: May 29, 2019· Robert Mueller makes first public statement since release of the Mueller report—O’Reilly and Brett Tolman break it down. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices...
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Welcome to the No Spin News, Wednesday, May 29, 2019. Take your country back.
Okay, so Robert Mueller comes out, speaks to the world, eight minutes on notes.
He looks tense.
I thought he was desperately unfair.
And I'm not saying this in any political way.
He was unfair to a fellow American citizen.
Trump. He denied President Trump due process. So in our system, which is the best in the world
on paper, unfortunately our justice system is hotter. On paper, it's the best in the law. You are
innocent until proven guilty of a crime. Also, if a prosecutor, which Robert Mueller is,
under his title of special counsel.
If a prosecutor does not have enough evidence
to charge you with a crime, you are innocent.
So Mueller goes on TV and says,
we don't have enough evidence in 485 pages,
but we're not going to exonerate President Trump of obstruction.
That's brutally unfair, brutally unfair.
Well, it's fair.
The order appointing me special counsel authorized us to investigate actions that could obstruct the investigation.
We conducted that investigation and we kept the office of the acting attorney general apprised of the progress of our work.
And as set forth in the report after that investigation, if we had had confidence that the President clearly
did not commit a crime, we would have said so. We did not, however, make a determination as
to whether the president did commit a crime. The Constitution requires a process other than
the criminal justice system to formally accuse a sitting president of wrongdoing.
That's false. That's not true. If you read Ken Starr's report on President Clinton,
on 11 separate occasions, Judge Starr lists crimes that he believes Mr. Clinton committed.
The Constitution does not bar Robert Mueller from listing any and all crimes.
In fact, if Mueller has evidence of a crime that President Trump committed and doesn't list it,
Mueller himself can be charged with obstruction of justice.
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gold. All right, Brett Tallman is our go-to guy on all things, Mueller.
Coming to us from Salt Lake City, Utah, former U.S. Attorney from Utah, knows the players personally, knows everything.
All right, Brett, I say anything that you need to correct or put in perspective.
No, I think you were right on the money on what happened here,
but I wanted to emphasize something that you highlighted on in comparing to the Star Report.
But one thing that's not being talked about, Mueller did not find evidence sufficient for,
obstruction of justice. Now he dodges the ball and he tries to kick it down the road to Congress,
but he had the ability to find that and didn't. And I'm getting a little, I think, frustrated like
everyone on blaming the policy of the Department of Justice. Remember, there is an entity in the DOJ,
it's called the OLC, whose job it is to interpret the law and issue an opinion. They issued an opinion
that charging a president would be against the Constitution.
So it's not the DOJ policy that is preventing this.
They have interpreted that from the Constitution.
But Mueller had all authority available to him to say,
I find these facts are sufficient to make a case of obstruction of justice.
Even though I can't charge them, I find these sufficient.
Now, Congress, I give those to you.
And he did not do that.
there's no specific evidence that Robert Mueller put in his report that even if you were in Salt Lake City, a state prosecutor, you could bring in and get an indictment.
Am I correct?
That's right.
You are correct.
And what's interesting to me, you've highlighted the firing of Comey.
Many people believe that when Clinton first took office and removed all 94 U.S. attorneys, he did so to protect a couple of police.
political allies. Now, was it theory? Yes, but why was he able to remove all 94 U.S. attorneys?
Same reason Trump had every ability, even if he didn't like him personally, or he had reasons that
he didn't think he was going to get around a fair shake in the investigation to get rid of Comey.
And Mueller knew that.
And Comey himself, he got to assume that the Trump administration knew things about James Comey,
that he was leaking classified information to reporters, which he's admitted, all right,
and that he did other things that he shouldn't have done his head of the FBI.
You've got to assume that the White House knew that.
So far.
Why would you keep somebody in office who was leaking classified information a reporter?
And so far, all we've seen is a flurry of defense, defensive posturing by Comey, and why?
And I think it's because of this.
There are individuals that behave themselves similarly
that were not in such a big position as Jim Comey,
who have been prosecuted by the Department of Justice
for such leaking and such conduct as we've seen
in the former director.
All right, we appreciate it.
Please keep your eye on this and give us a call
to see anything.
We'll put you right on the air.
It's a big story and you're the best, I think, about analyzing you.
Thank you very much.
Thanks, Bill.
Great to be with you.
All right. And finally, the Pope says that there shouldn't be a border wall and there shouldn't be family separation.
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So in an interview with Mexican TV, this week, he says, no, no wall, no family separation.
What do you expect the Pope to say?
A big headline, Pope criticizes Trump, blah, blah, blah, but not about Trump.
What are you expecting to say?
I mean, the Pope is a person who is on this earth to help poor people.
He doesn't want barriers.
He doesn't want people taken into custody.
He doesn't want family separated.
I don't want it either.
But render to Caesar,
and that's what I would tell the Pope, if I could talk about it.
We have laws, and they need to be respected.
And you know what?
Pope Francis would agree with me.
I say, with all due respect, your holiness,
are you telling people that they shouldn't obey the law?
You know, if the only way to keep people out of the country,
country is a wall and our law says you have to be accredited to come into the country.
There's no moral beef.
So I can have a great discussion with Pope Francis, who I think is a good man.
He's a kind man.
When I see this stuff, I go, we expect the Pope to say.
We'll be back tomorrow with a lot more on the Moist situation, including your man.