Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - Security Breach Aftermath, Journalism in America With Roy Gutterman, Donald Trump's Executive Order on Elections & More Democrat Lunacy

Episode Date: March 27, 2025

Tonight's rundown:  Hey BillOReilly.com Premium and Concierge Members, welcome to the No Spin News for Wednesday, March 26, 2025. Stand Up for Your Country.  Talking Points Memo: The latest on National Security Advisor Mike Waltz accidentally letting liberal journalist Jeffrey Goldberg into a meeting about the Houthis. Professor Roy Gutterman, Director of the Tully Center for Free Speech, joins No Spin News to discuss whether the security breach should be considered a scandal and give his views on the current state of the media. President Trump signs an executive order to change election rules, focusing on citizenship and mail-in voting. Bill looks at the recent outrageous things said by Democratic Representatives Maxine Waters and Jasmine Crockett. Final Thought: Bill's appearance on The Stephen A. Smith Show. In Case You Missed It: Read Bill's latest column, Frankie and Donnie Stand out from the crowd with our NEW Not Woke baseball cap for just $28.95! For a limited time, get Bill O'Reilly's bestselling The United States of Trump and a No Spin Mug for only $39.95. Get Bill's latest book, CONFRONTING THE PRESIDENTS, out NOW! Now's the time to get a Premium or Concierge Membership to BillOReilly.com, the only place for honest news analysis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I'll wrap it up for you fairly succinctly. The media, of course, you know, they love this kind of thing. I recognize the importance of the story, and it is important because we can't have this again. And if it happens again, people are going to have to get fired. But let me walk through it where we are, but I believe today will be the end. For me, and responsible people, the hey Trumpers will try to drag it out as long as they can. All right, so let's review. That is the subject of this evening talking points memo.

Apparently, National Security Advisor Mike Walsh accidentally allowed a very liberal journalist, Jeffrey Goldberg from Atlantic Magazine, into the meeting, which was on an app called Signal. It was a national security meeting, as you probably know, discussing how to attack the hooty terrorists in Yashire. So there were dials made, people got on the thread, and one of them was Jeffrey Goldberg, and nobody knew it because it was a mistake made by Walls. Now, there are unanswered questions here. How did you have Jeffrey Goldberg's number? Mr. Walls, he's a top Trump hater.

That should be answered. And Goldberg himself should answer some questions. to the FBI. I don't know why Cash Patel has a dispatched FBI agents to talk to Goldberg about how this all happened that's national security. Maybe it has happened and the press doesn't know about it. I certainly don't know about it,

but it should happen. Goldberg should be interviewed by FBI agents, right? Okay. Now, Walswood on TV last night. night, Laura Ingraham, Fox News, roll the tape. Right, you've got somebody else's number on someone else's contact, so of course I didn't see this loser in the group. It looked like someone else. Now, whether he did it deliberately or it happened in some other technical mean is something we're trying to figure out. So your staffer did not put his contact information, no, but how did it end

up? Well, that's what we're trying to, that's what we're trying to figure out. Okay. But that's a pretty big problem. That is what, if there are numbers, we've got the best technical, not, minds, right? And that's where, I mean, I'm sure everybody out there has had a contact where it was said one person and then a different phone number. Not me, because I don't do that. If I have a serious conversation, it's on a hard line where if you tap a hard line, it's a felony. I don't do signal. I don't know what signal is. And none of our national security people should be using it either. okay because if geoffrey goldberg can get on it so can the chinese and the russians okay aye aye but at least waltz owned up to it it's in his purview but i want a little more information

and laura ingram did her job i mean she framed it the proper way now i don't think anybody's going to get fired here but trump's embarrassed and he's angry about it i know that's to be true. But it's not a scandal, right? It's a blunder. Okay. Scandal is far, far different, but not to the hate Trump media. Go. Wolf, this hearing is going to be hijacked by this scandal, and that's really what it is for the Trump administration. We saw two Republican senators point to the fact that they plan to ask questions about this scandal inside of a closed-door hearing, which is going to take place later this afternoon. If anything, I would say the scandal looks worse for the Trump White House on the second day,

even than it did initially. Now, over on Fox News, pundits were trying their best to downplay the scandal, though even there, a few had to admit that this is kind of a big deal. So what's the scandal that somebody made a mistake and let this weasel Goldberg in? That's a blunder. There was no collusion. That would be a scandal. If Goldberg said, hey, let me into the thread,

and then somebody said, okay, we'll sneak you in. That's a scandal. Some nitwit, dialing a wrong number or whatever happened, is a blunder. Now, if it upgrades, and that's why the FBI needs to speak, to Goldberg. All right, and that's a memo. Now, here's a media scandal, kind of.

Wall Street Journal gets delivered to my door every day. The editorial pages of the Wall Street Journal are fair and backed with facts. The news pages tilt left, but not crazy. It's primarily a financial newspaper. There is a reporter Melissa Korn, she is a deputy bureau chief of the media team. Wow, got a big title. She's trying to stick up for Jeffrey Goldberg, trying to say this man is credibility. As I reported yesterday, he was the guy who reported that President Trump, in his first term, went to Europe and said that U.S. soldiers killed in World War I were suckers.

That never happened, and I investigated it, okay? Never happened. But Melissa somehow writes, quote, in September 2020, Goldberg reported that Trump referred to soldiers killed in battle during World War I as losers and suckers, citing multiple anonymous sources. So they heard the remarks. Trump contested the reporting, though his chief of staff at the time confirmed he had used those words. not true. Not true. The chief of staff was John Kelly.

Now, Kelly excoriated Trump because Trump fired him and called Trump all kinds of names, but never said that we can find, and we did a big search that Trump said dead World War I soldiers were losers and suckers. And a guy in the room who also hates Donald Trump, you know him, former national security of John Bolton said this, go. And according to what that article said, the president made disparaging remarks about our soldiers, the people buried at the Anmarne Cemetery, in connection with the decision for him

not to go to the ceremony that was planned that afternoon. And that was simply false. I don't know who told the author that, but that was false. Okay, that was false. And Bolton was there, following Trump around. The whole day. And then I talked to myself, the other people who were there, nobody.

Heard that. Even anonymously. So we have misreporting terrible journalism on the part of the Wall Street Journal. I'm surprised, I'm disappointed. Let's get another view with this. Joining us now from Syracuse, New York is Roy Gutterman. He teaches communications at Syracuse University. But more importantly, he's a director of the Tully Center for Free Speech, which is very prestigious.

Am I making any mistakes here, Mr. Gutterman? I didn't say you're making mistakes, but this discussion, and even if there's false information or erroneous information, that's part of the role of the press, and it's part of the role of an adversarial press to root out what the truth is and what people said, regardless of who the speaker is. But what are you referring to now? Who are you referring to now? Melissa Korn? Korn, Bolton.

But Korn is using anonymous sources and saying that Jeffrey Goldberg's reportage for Atlantic was true, and it wasn't. There is no evidence whatsoever, none from John Kelly or anybody else that Trump said, Dead Americans are in World War I, we're losers and suckers. None. And if it's proving to be an untrue statement, I think we're finding that out. We're finding it out because of me. This MailChimp forific jingle is brought to you by MailChimp. MailChimp your marketing with AI and more, advanced automations to connect to your store.

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And part of the media. That's right. And corn puts this in the paper yesterday, trying to bolster Goldberg's profile, when Goldberg, in my opinion, is a far-left weasel, but that's my opinion. And as an analyst, I'm entitled to it, as you know. But let's look at the bigger picture here.

I told Clay and Buck on the radio today that if I had been Jeffrey Goldberg and I had been inadvertently admitted to this national security conference, I would have listened to it. As a reporter, I would have taken down the information. Do you think I'm wrong? No. I mean, what you do with that information is a different story, but reporters, regardless of whether the reporters get things and get access to things that they shouldn't get all the time. I would go back to the Pentagon Papers.

The New York Times and the Washington Post shouldn't have had those documents, but they did. And look what it did for the discussion around the Vietnam War. Reporters get leaked information all the time, and sometimes they don't use everything, and sometimes it becomes a big story. sometimes it even becomes a controversial story, as we're seeing this right now. And to be fair to Goldberg, this story happened on March 15th, and he didn't break it until after the Hootie attacked by the United States. So that's in his column as a positive. But what he's done in the past is simply outrageous. This man hates Donald Trump and uses anonymous sources to hurt him. And that's why I objected to Ms. Korn's reportage. But you're correct. And

sense that if you're a reporter, you have to get the information, then you decide what to do with it. And I wouldn't put it out because obviously the U.S. military is involved. Now, this kind of a situation, do you see it as a scandal? It's still unfolding right in front of us. So we don't know who made a mistake, what the mistake was. All we know is a reporter got access to a classified meeting that he shouldn't have had access to. Don't you think the FBI should be interviewing a reporter and find out what the deuce is going on? I'm never a fan of law enforcement coming after reporters. How can you project national security then?

If there was a glitch in the national security system that allowed this guy to get on a ban, don't you think the FBI should know about it? I think the FBI has the resources to find out exactly what happened without going to the reporter. I think the reporter is the last person who knows what happened. Why would you object to that? If I were a reporter, I'd answer all the questions, honestly. I wouldn't be offended. I'd expect the FBI to show up.

Well, I think once law enforcement starts tapping into reporters or subpoenaing reporters or opening investigations into reporters, I think that can jeopardize the news gathering process. And that goes across the board, whether you're Jeffrey Goldberg at the Atlantic or a reporter at the Wall Street Journal or somebody at Fox. I think invading the news gathering process through law enforcement techniques jeopardizes the process for everybody. I put national security above the process of accumulating facts and information, particularly. I agree with you on that. Yeah, particularly when terrorism is involved.

I mean, that's what I do. Okay, all right, I got it. Are there other means, sure. Nah, I don't know if there are other means. I mean, and I wouldn't put it as an investigation, I would just say, you know, we want to find out what happens. so we're going to talk to this guy. He's not under any threat of indictment at all or whatever you wanted to do. But Cash Patel should be doing something, in my opinion.

Are you happy with the state of the media in America right now? I mean, I'd like to see more media to tell you the truth. I think it's extremely discouraging to see independent media, particularly local media, across the country, get consolidated and go out of business. cut their news hole. I think we're in a real crisis now with news deserts around the country. And I think readers, citizens, and the democracy itself can be imperiled without good, independent, mainstream media. And again, this is local, it's national. It's everywhere. I don't see any independent media in the corporations that are running the shows now on television and radio. I don't see any independence at all. Do you? No. Local media, particularly

television's been brought up by and consolidated. And they do what they told. These people do what they talk. You do what the boss tells you. Yeah, because they want to make money. It's all about money, not about information flow. It concerns me greatly also. And this goes right to Syracuse University and the younger people who were interested in journalism and communications. There's no editors on the internet. People say whatever they want. And people believe it. And I think that's a threat, but there's no way to control it under the First Amendment, correct?

The First Amendment gives us a lot of protection, even protection to be wrong, even protection to be hateful. And that's part of the First Amendment. That's part of the marketplace of ideas that it gives us. But when you have no editor, no structure. Because I came up, this is 50 years for me in journalism. I got out of Boston University 50 years ago, January, and I've been working steadily ever since. I'm the last of a breed.

I am the last one standing. And I came up in a structure. And there were standards and stuff like that. Now there's no standards on the internet. So my question to you is, do the younger people that you see every day, do they have the the background, historically, information, frame of reference, to know what's true and what isn't true? Yes and no.

I mean, today's college student is well-informed with the information that they want to gather. They do ask questions, but every generation says a generation behind them doesn't know what they're talking about. So, you know, there's that sort of generational bias. But I think contemporary students nowadays are discriminating and do ask the questions from a professional journalistic standpoint. They understand the infrastructure of a news operation. Unfortunately, the infrastructure to the news operation isn't the same that it was, even when I was in the business. I got started as a newspaper reporter more than a few decades ago, and I remember every story I wrote passed through several editors, and every editor had their own question, and I field that question

at 9 or 10 at night, and hit, and I'm a little bit worried about the collapse of the public school system doesn't teach civics in history anymore, so that the J students, you know, when you say, hey, you know, Trump is appeased. Putin. Everybody goes, yeah, that's right, that right. Well, FDR did the same thing at Yalta. And they go, what? Where's Yalta? What? That is worrisome. Professor, we really appreciate your time today. Thank you very much for helping us out. My pleasure. Okay, PBS NPR, hopefully they'll be defunded. Now, why do I say that? Let me explain, because this is personal to me. So I know all these people, and all of them, 100% of the people that I know in National Public Radio and PBS,

okay, public broadcasting system, television, 100% are liberal. There's not one moderate. They're all left-wing, so is a culture. So you walk in there, if they hire you, and you're conservative, you're not going to be comfortable. Okay. So every year, my tax money and yours goes to fund these operations to the tune of $535 million a year. Now, when you're talking trillion-dollar budgets, but it's still $535,000. million a year, more than a million a day, right to New York, right to these lefties.

Okay? Well, Donald Trump certainly doesn't want that to continue. Go. Would you be interested in defunding and taking away taxpayer dollars to MPR and PBS? Well, I would love to do that. I think it's very unfair. It's been very biased with the whole group. I mean, a whole group of them.

And frankly, there's plenty. Look at all the media you have right now. There's plenty of coverage. So Republicans, of course, taking their cue from President Trump, are going after the funding. You're going to have a hard time because the Democrats want the funding because PBS and NPR bolster the Democratic Party. This is political.

So there were hearings today in the House and the Senate, And a congressman Pat Fallon from Texas asked the NPR CEO, Catherine Mayer, this question. Ms. Mayor, NPR, you believe your reporters are fair? You said you're fair and they're working at it. I believe that they work to be every day, sir. They're non-biased. And yet, you have the voter registration issue. I mean, we're all human beings.

We're all going to see through the world through a certain lens. And are you aware of any Republicans, any registered Republicans in your newsroom? I couldn't say registered, but I know we have conservatives in our newsroom, yes. Okay, so the recent registration, when it was looked at, 87 Democrats and zero Republicans registered. I found that very concerning. I'm going to my family, because we're going to Burlington for the event of liquidation candent. We're going to now right now to find the best of the best in articles of liquidation. to decoration

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So I don't believe you're concerned about it. I believe you like it. Finally, there was a report by Frontier. front line, which used to be in almost parallel 60 minutes, Frontline used to be really good. It's the documentary unit of NPR and PBS. And they did a preview of the presidential election, Trump versus Harris. I watched it because I knew what was going to happen.

Frontline used 12 favorable soundbites of people talking about vice president harris 12 in the hour guess how many favorable towards trump none that's not just bias because it's contemptible front line knew what they were doing and they knew anybody watching it would know but the only people that watch it are liberals liberal democrats I ain't conservatives watching NPR or listening to NPR or watching PBS. So why should we be funding this? Let them compete on their own. I like the four tops as much as anybody.

All right, I'll tune in and see James Taylor sell spots, advertise, just like everybody else. I really hope they knock this out. All right, executive order. number what, 100, something, Donald Trump. Every day, this one's on election. Remember, all 50 states run their own operations on election day. Okay. For example, 18 states and Puerto Rico, U.S. territory, allow votes that are cast after election day. Okay, so if you go, oh, I forgot, and then Monday after election, or Wednesday after

the Tuesday election, I say, I hear, they'll count them. It's crazy. 18. So each state runs its own show. President Trump wants a coordination between the fifth. Federal Oversight, F-C-F-E-C, Federal Election Commission, and the States. Signs the Executive Order. Executive Order says this, that all people who vote have to provide documentation of citizenship.

Voter ID, you've got to be a citizen, number one. Number two, the order directs the Attorney General, Pambandi, to share information with the states. okay um number three mail-in ballots must be received by election day not a day after finally foreign nationals are banned from any donations any political donations so the chinese can't pump big money into bernie sanders who's a communist so they have some patico um i like the i like the executive order it's going to of course immediately be challenged in court because you're going to say states have to control federal government but you should know what's going on um this is uh most important to president trump the economy if it this time next

year okay late march if prices have not come down unemployment has gone up and the economy is wobbling the stock market, the Republicans will lose the midterms. And Trump will be done. Toast. That's how important this is. So consumer confidence came out yesterday and it's low. New data released by Consumer Confidence Survey says that the index fell seven points. And it is the fourth consecutive monthly decline that began under Biden. It's the lowest level in 12 years consumer confidence. Why? Because of the tariffs and the stock market. Once the stock market comes down, starts coming down and people see their 401Ks and their retirement funds or college funds, son quantum value, they get nervous. And nobody understands the tariffs anyway.

So that's what's going on. Now, it could go turn around real quickly. I tell everybody don't panic, don't sell your equities, unless you, you know, have a bad company and you know it's bad. But this is the most important thing, Donald Trump. NBC News poll, direction of the country, 1,000 registered voters, here is the question. You think things in a nation generally headed in the right direction or wrong direction? Right 44, wrong 54, but that's the highest right direction. since 2004, according to Sienna. So Trump is, you know, people are nervous,

but he's still not in a bad spot. Lunacy on the Democratic Party, this is why President Trump has got more rope than he might ordinarily have because the Democrats are crazy. Just nuts. Bernie, we went over Bernie Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez on their communist tour yesterday. And don't tell me they're not communist because they are, and I proved it yesterday. I don't think she even knows what a common indifference

between communism, socialism, but he does. All right, now we have an anti-douge rally where our pal, Congresswoman Maxine Waters, speaks. Go. If he wants to start looking so closely to find those who were born here. and their parents were undocumented maybe out of first look at Melania we don't know whether or not her parents were documented and maybe we better just take a look yeah we know this woman there's nothing you can do I mean our district likes her and that's that. Okay.

So Melania Trump came to the U.S. from Slovenia as a model. 1996 became a citizen 10 years later, 2006. Her parents became U.S. citizens, August of 2018. That is documented. Now, Congresswoman Waters doesn't care what the truth is at all. Never has. It just gets out there and says, whatever the crowd, she thinks the crowd wants to hear even worse is this congresswoman jasmine crockett this is the

dallas area okay the south dallas area which is heavily minority so there is uh a governor greg abbott of texas who's in a wheelchair and here's what miss crockett says go y'all know we got governor high wheels down there come on now And the only thing hot about him is that he is a hot ass mess, honey. So, so yes, yes, yes. Right, okay. All right, I'm going to move on. I'm going to move on because I got other people this also hot in these streets.

Oh, that's what we want representing our country, right? Someone who makes fun of someone in a wheelchair. Oh. Now, if you're conservative Republican, you want that to happen. Because the more of that that happens, the less the Democratic Party is valued. So it's at 30 percent now. Only 30 percent of Americans approve of the Democratic Party. Keep trotting those people out. It's going to be 20 percent. It's really disturbing. Smart Life, 50% of parents support adult children, according to Savings.com. Interesting stats.

So this is up from 47% last year. About 1,500 a month parents are giving to their adult children to survive. Cell phone, food, health, auto insurance, rent, on and on and on. More than 60% of parents say they've sacrificed their own financial security. to the sake of their children. Okay. Should you do that? Put us in a box.

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hardest. Yes, it's a kindness. I know this is a philosophy is that, okay, once you're adults, they go out and they sing or swim on their own and they got to make it on their own. I don't totally buy into that. A smart life is a good life. If your kid needs help, and I don't care have the kid's 32. And again, it's not, they're not taking drugs, they're not doing stuff, they're not loading up on tattoos, they're not irresponsible. They're working, trying. And you can help them? You help. That's just Judeo-Christian tradition, right? If you disagree, bill at bill o'Reilly.com, bill at bill o'Reilly.com. But remember, a smart life is a good life. spring break so clear water Florida Miami Beach key West all in Florida they're big

attractions for the kids going down and cancun Mexico do not go there if you're a parent you have any sway over your kid at all and they're going to cancun no dangerous anyway there was a crew posted on on X, of course, that went down and interviewed Spring Breakers in Clearwater about the U.S. government. Who did the colonists fight in the Revolutionary War? Oh, sorry. In the Revolutionary War?

Oh, I don't know if this is right. I mean, it sounds so stupid. Was it the Spanish? Wait, what are your majors? Business. Biology. Elementary education. Oh.

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There's a lot. I know, I know 17. Who won the Civil War? Oh, shoot, it's Easter West, right? Well, it's the Civil War. So it's the civilians versus whoever was in power. How many justices are on the Supreme Court? Justices?

Like, when you say that, like, you mean, like, that's... that like you mean like that f i who is on the one hundred dollar bill abraham lincoln no that's the first amendment what's the second right to vote name three states that border canada we're just do one per person oh asia i didn't know canada had a border this is why much time on this, they don't know anything. They live in this world, create their own world. Now, is that important? Yeah. Those kids, they're not going to prosper in a competitive society unless there are some tech genius where they can rap. So it's, it's no surprise to me, but sad. Stay in history, March 25th, 1955. I was

five years old. And I love Davy Crockett. And 70 years ago today, the song Davy Crockett became number one in America. Go. Davy, Davy Crockett, the king of the wild frontier. Born on a mountain top in Tennessee, the green estate in the land of the free, raised in the woods so they knew ever and killed him a bar when he was only three. I remember that song. Okay, so Davy Crockett, that was five weeks at number one. It was a TV show starring Fess Parker, an actor. He was Davy.

That was huge. Disney put it out. And the thing just blew up. And then they marketed all Davy Crockett gear, lunch boxes. I had a coon skin cap. I remember I run around my house and levit down with the little. coon skin cap. Davy Crockett became a phenomenon, a phenomenon in this country for Disney. Now, the real Davy Crockett was an outdoorsman. He was a hunter. And then he became a congressman

from Tennessee. And he didn't like it in Washington. So then he went to Texas and got slaughtered at the Alamo. Real guy. Not a good guy. Left his wife and kids. Okay? Not a good guy. But Disney made him into the biggest hero in the world. And Fess Parker, the actor who played him, never really did anything after that. But he was for a few years, one of the biggest stars in America. Davy Crockett franchise $300 million to Disney. Whoa. Back in a moment with a final thought.

Here's the final thought I did Stephen A. Smith podcast yesterday because we're doing a live show, as you know. on Sunday, Westbury Long Island, 3 p.m. A few tickets, we just put a few VIPs out. We had sold them out, but we made a little bit of room if you want to meet us after the show, Three American Tour. So here's a bit of what we did on the Smith podcast. I would like to state this for the record.

I'm pretty impressed. The suit that you have on now looks pretty sharp, but you know you're going to have to do better Sunday, right? You're going to have to up your game and elevate your, you elevate your style to some degree. You do understand that, Bill O'Reilly, right? You do get that.

Because I was down in Palm Beach. I was down in Palm Beach this weekend. I bought a briani tie for the occasion. I had a trade in my car to buy it. But you're waiting to see this tie. Okay, no matter what kind of pink jacket you show up with, what kind of little pocket. hanky you have. It's not going to top this brioni tie.

I give you a little flavor. We are going to have a lot of fun at this show, but serious topics are going to be discussed as well. LeBron James just came out and attacked Stephen A. again. So for an evening or an afternoon, you will never forget. The Three Americans Tour, Westbury Sunday coming on up. Love to see you. If you want to meet us, and I don't know why anyone would. We got 15 VIP tickets just released. So anyway, we hope to see it the show. And we very much appreciate that you tune in to watch the NOSPA News and are listening on our radio stations all across the country. It's very nice of you to do that. I'm Bill O'Reilly. We'll see you again tomorrow.