Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - Tariff Confusion, Trump Administration Challenges Supreme Court on Garcia's Release & Bishop Robert Barron Weighs In on Controversial Dem Bills and Woke-ism

Episode Date: April 16, 2025

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Welcome to the No Spin News for Tuesday, April 15th, 2025, stand up for your country. Well, this is a true statement. Many people in this world are frightened. They live in that kind of a scared state all the time. and some of it's justified, depending on where you are. Some of it isn't. Most human beings are cautious. They're not, they don't live in a state of fear, but they don't, they're not bold.

I mean, they calculate before they move. But President Trump is not one of them. He is a gambler. And now his gamble on the American economy, the worldwide economy, the worldwide economy, really is in question. I think that's all accurate. So let's run it down. So on April 30th, the Tuesday, I'll be co-anchoring a town hall on News Nation about Donald Trump's first 100 days. Then the following Friday, three days later, I'll be doing an analysis with Leland Verde, an hour special on the 100 days. That'll just be me and Leland. The town hall is going to be,

you know, a big dog and pony, but I am going to be the traffic cop. So that's coming up. It will surprise you what I have to tell you, because I'm researching it now. It's not going to be the same old stuff, and you'll be surprised. So that's coming up. So all this week, I'm basically zeroing in on what the president is doing, what he's accomplished, and what he has failed to do. all right and we're going to do it in a very as I said methodical way now the

tariff situation and the economy and your 401k in investments that is far in a way the headline that exists today in America and all over the world and that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo so there is mass confusion there is no doubt about that it is very complicated I have a master's degree in public administration from Harvard, which got slapped by Trump today, and we'll report that in a little while. And when I was studying in Cambridge, I hated macroeconomics. It was horrible because it was so difficult to learn all these systems. I forced myself to do it, And I know, I'm not saying I'm an economist, but I know how the world works.

And most of the people don't, including seasoned journalists. So you may remember last week, we had a guy named Dr. Nicholas Lardy. He was an expert on the Chinese economy. Very smart guy, okay? And he disagreed with me about how China is handling all the dollars it gets every year from the U.S. So I'll remind you how much that is. We do $463 billion in trade with China. Okay?

$463. And then Chinese investment, they buy savings bonds, they buy land, they buy securities. That's $127 billion going back to China every year in interest, payments, and dividends, things like that. That's $600 billion. dollars, a year. Going into Beijing, the Communist Party runs that economy. It's a colossal amount. Anyway, I believe, and I think I can prove it, but I believe strongly, much of that money, those dollars being used to build up the ferocious Chinese military. And this is what Lardie and I discussed, Roland. What about the war machine? Are you worried about the Chinese war machine?

Well, they're ramping up their military expenditures, and it's been going on for a decade. Quite frankly, not very much of it is financed by the six or seven hundred billion we send to China. They have a, you know, their domestic economy is 12, 13 trillion. So a few hundred billion coming from the United States is not a decisive factor. Now, I did not call Lardy on that because they don't have the stats because the Chinese government doesn't put them out. They don't say, hey, we spend this much on our military and this percentage coming from the USA. That doesn't happen in a communist regime. They do what they want and nobody knows about it.

But yesterday, Victor Davis Hansen, who I believe is the strongest columnist in America, wrote this, quote, NATO, the EU, Japan, South Korea, Australia, and the U.S. are also curious as to why China is using its vast foreign exchange, not to lift about a quarter of its population out of third world level poverty. Instead, it is frantically building three to four nuclear bombs a month, a 700-chip Navy, and 2,500 combat aircraft as it ratches up pressure on Taiwan, unquote. Well, there you go. Hansen agrees with me. Okay? And I don't know whether he heard my interview with Dr. Lardy might have, but I don't think there's any doubt that U.S. dollars are fueling our enemies' military. Now, do you think most people know that? Has that been widely reported in the American press?

No. People don't have a clue, not a scintilla, of what is going on here. Trump knows because I talk to them about it, right? Now, I was on Leland Vitter's program on News Nation last night, and I'm on News Nation on Monday at 9 and with Cuomo Wednesdays 8,815. And it's worth you guys checking that out. Anyway, Leland is a very smart guy with a lot of experience abroad. The foreign correspondent for Fox in the Middle East for a long time.

And here's what we were talking about vis-à-vis the tariffs. The money from tariffs doesn't come from overseas. The money for tariffs comes from all of us. And I think that's part of this inconsistency. That's not right, Leland. So the United States Treasury gets the money that, Mercedes pays on the tariffs from its cars coming into the USA. And that's what Trump wants.

He wants more money coming in than going out. Now, he's not going to achieve that goal. It's impossible to achieve it. But he'll cut it 50, 60 percent, I'm pretty sure, over the next six months or so. Now, Leland, as I've said, is one of the smartest of the pundits on television. He doesn't know how it works. So I'm sitting here every night and reporting to you and watching this insanity on television. It's the dumbest stuff I've ever heard because the media has now made this into a political thing,

not an economics thing. Trump bad. Tariff's bad because Trump's bad. You have no idea what is happening in this world and how our enemies are being strong. strengthened by this unfair trade system. You don't know. And worst of all, you don't care. And I'm talking to the network news and CNN and MSNBC and to some extent Fox. Because the mistake that Fox News makes is that just rubber stamps everything Trump does. You can't.

You got to cut through all of this special interest stuff and bring legitimate information and analysis and clarity to you, the American people. Okay, so I think we're doing a pretty good job of that. And the final thing in this whole thing is, Don Trump knows this entire legacy is on the line here with this tariff. Hi, I'm Trisha, your friend and jeweler at Shane Company, where we're all about you, your style, your budget, your dream engagement ring. Are you looking for a style that's classic, modern, vintage,

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How huge is that? And that's the memo. All right, here's another example of United States getting hosed. So I've been to pretty much every European country. I don't think I missed any of them. I haven't been to Slovenia, where Melania Trump was born and raised. I have not been to Poland. I can't believe I missed it.

But everywhere else I've been. And when you go there, you pay a VAT, value-added tax. Every country has it. But not only do you pay it if you want to buy some shoes in Italy, But American products shipped to the EU, all of them have to pay a tax, which is why they cost a lot more in Europe than here. So if you wanted to buy a Ford automobile in America, it's 30% less to buy it here than to buy it over there because of the VAT tax. Every American import into the EU is taxed, all right, and here are the rates. Italy, 22%, France, 20%, Germany, 19%, UK, 20%, Spain, 21%.

So everything that we ship gets taxed at that rate so that the people who sell have to charge 20% more, and they can't compete with the domestics of which is what the game is. So Europeans don't buy a lot of American stuff. I remember one time I was in Sweden and I had a Washington Redskins jacket before the Redskins went. Okay? Guy offered me a hundred bucks on a spot for the jacket.

Jacket cost back here about 60, 60 bucks. I sold it to him because I had another jacket. I just go back to the USA, buy another one. He goes, give me that. I'll pay $100 for that jacket. Okay? And because he knew that it was unaffordable. And it weren't even into stores.

American products are not even in the European stores because they're so expensive because of the VAT tax. Now, did you know any of that? That's how the European countries make their money. They tax everything you buy and their own people have to pay it. Okay. Let's go to immigration. So, Abrago Garcia is still in El Salvador.

He is the Maryland guy in the country illegally, who got swept up in an ice raid, deported to El Salvador. But the Trump administration says it was a mistake. He has no criminal record here or in El Salvador. They booted him out, and he's there, and he's got an American wife, an American young daughter. And he's still in El Salvador. Well, the Supreme Court on April 14th, I'm sorry, the Supreme Court ruled that Mr. Garcia has to be brought back.

The government has to facilitate Obrigo Garcia's release from Salvador in custody and effectuate his return, facilitate and effectuate. It's basically the court is saying, you've got to bring him back. Trump administration doesn't want to bring them back. And the word now is, from the Department of Social Security filed yesterday, said, well, we don't have the authority to bring them back. Okay. So you remember that yesterday the El Salvadoran president was in the White House and said, well, I'm not going to bring him back to the United States.

Now, what President Trump has to do is say to this guy. you're going to, you know, send him back. And in 10 seconds, the guy would be on a plane coming back. El Salvador's not going to defy the Trump administration. They're making billions of dollars from us down there. Okay? So if we want him back, but Trump doesn't want him back. And this is a big mistake.

Because the Supreme Court's watching this. And the Supreme Court obviously wants this guy to get due process, which he should get. He is under the asylum court. jurisdiction in Maryland now. He's applied for asylum. And you kick him out. And now the Supreme Court says, yeah, you got to bring him back. No. Donald Trump's going to need the Supreme Court. This is small ball. Bring the man back. I mean, why do you want to pick a fight at that level? Do we have anything else here on the legal front?

Maybe later. Colorado, crazy left state. When I lived there, it wasn't. It was a traditional state. Now, it's crazy left. So the houses we reported has passed a law. I don't know whether the governor is going to sign it or the Senate is going to pass it, but the law is outrageous. Here it is.

Colorado taxpayers must fund abortions. That goes against the Hyde Amendment for the United States, which says you can't force. Americans to pay for abortions. So the state law goes right against a federal law, and of course federal law trumps state law. Second one, the law prohibits cooperation without a state investigations on transgender procedures. This is saying we're not going to obey Donald Trump's law on transgendered men competing with women. That's what this is. And you saw what happened to Maine. The governor said, I don't know, I got it. Trump just cut off all money for me. All right, Maine's hurt.

Colorado did. We're not going to obey this law from Trump. Okay? Third one, gender affirming care must be provided by all insurance companies in Colorado. Gender or affirming care means hormone therapy, surgical procedures for children, for children without parental permission. This is insane, this law. All right? And finally, schools are to use students' preferred names rather than their born names. Joining us now from Winona, Minnesota is the bishop out there of the diocese. Robert Barron, you may know him because he's a very successful social media operation called Word on Fire, which is worth checking out even if you're not Catholic.

So is the church in America going to get involved with this? in Colorado? Well, it might. We've been involved in similar struggles in different states. You look at my home state here in Minnesota. We're a sanctuary state, which means that you can take a kid from his parents in a state other than Minnesota, bring him here, and despite the parents' objections, they can do all this gender-affirming business.

We've been opposing it. There have been similar things I was out in California as an auxiliary bishop, and we were fighting these battles. It's a real ideological struggle because, I mean, the church stands a thwart. stands athwart, this very modern sense of everything depends upon freedom. We just get rid of any objective normativity. We say it's all a matter of personal free choice. Even a child choosing its gender, I mean, it's beyond absurd, but it's also, it's a deeper moral problem about human nature and this weird primacy we've given to freedom of choice. And the church, I think, is the

strongest, most articulate organization standing against this business. But you've got to organize and do something formal so the American people know that there is opposition to what Colorado is doing. And I have not seen that Bishop so far. Yeah. I mean, in some of the states, the Bishop's conferences get together. We'll have our meeting in June. And sometimes these issues come up and we try to find an organized response. But usually it takes place at the state level, the state conference level, is where the bishops tend to engage these things. We just met as Minnesota bishops with the governor,

Governor Walls, and with the top leadership in Minnesota. We laid out all the concerns that we have about these various things. So I think that's really where the battle usually is joined at the state conference level. Okay, but that's all well and good, but the mobilization of the American P. I think most Americans would find this law barbaric in Colorado.

Okay, two to one, if you pulled it, two to one, they go, you can't allow children, did not tell their parents are going to have a surgery to change their gender. That's just off the chart. But there doesn't seem to be any logical or apparent opposition to this. Now, when you're in a situation where the Colorado law basically is saying we don't care about the Hyde Amendment, the Hyde Amendment was passed because you can't, the United States government, according to Constitution, can't force somebody of conscience, a Catholic, to fund something

that's a sin in a Catholic religion. That's as simple as that. All right? You can't force, it's a freedom of religion issue. Right. Can't take the money. We've been opposing that stuff for years. Right. Now, we've been very articulate and clear, I think, in our opposition to this stuff for years, trying to carve out these conscience protection clauses. And as I say, I fought this now in three different states as a priest and as a bishop, and we raised it a lot at the national level. I'm on the Bishop's Committee for Religious Liberty, and that's how we name this. It's precisely a religious liberty-free exercise issue. Well, I don't believe that right now in the USA, and I could be wrong, but I follow these kinds of stories very closely, that it's an organized

opposition. You say state by state, okay, but Trump is the guy that's knocking the DEI out, that's not going to woke out, it's telling the states you can't do transgendered men competing against women in sports. It's a secular thing. Trump is doing it. Firestone Complete AutoCare's great big tire cell is here and it's time to get in on some serious savings. Get up to $280 off when you buy four eligible bridge stone or Firestone tires. Firestone Complete AutoCare. Book now at Firestone Auto.com. Condition supplies. These store for details. Ah, smart water alkaline with antioxidant. Whoa, that's refreshing. And a 9.5 plus pH for every way you move. I did take a spin class today. Restoring like a pro. Smartwater alkaline with antioxidant.

For those with a taste for taste. Grab yours today. And he's doing it for political reasons because the MAGA people want that. But there doesn't seem to be a religious alliance with Trump there. Well, I'm chair of the Bishops Committee on Laity Youth and Family Life, and I've issued a couple of statements supporting those moves of Trump, especially in the gender area, especially in men and women's sports and all that. I came out against him in terms of in vitro fertilization. So I spoke as chair of that committee. See, the way the church is organized,

power is concentrated really in the individual bishop and maybe in the state conference. At the national level, sometimes we don't approach the questions at that level. It's more the individual bishop in his diocese or the state conference. Also, I try to do it through preaching. So I use the means I have of communication to talk about these things. I've been battling wokeism for years. I've been speaking out against it like crazy, and I have a lot of enemies because of it. But I've chosen to use this means of social communication I've got to speak out.

What's your objection to woke? What's your objection to it? It's fundamentally unjust, and it's a fundamentally racist point of view. It's grounded in a European postmodern philosophy that's really pugnant to Catholic social teaching, which is not an antagonistic social theory, but one based upon cooperation. I'm a Martin Luther Kingman, right? We're judged by the content of our character, not the color of our skin, and this returned to a very racialized understanding and a very antagonistic understanding of society. I think all of the that is repugnant to Catholic social teaching. So I've been against it for years. Okay. So we're in Holy Week now and the surveys say that church going not only for Catholics but for everybody, Protestants, Jews, Muslims, the whole across the board is on decline, vast decline. And the elevation of atheism and people who don't care agnostics is on the rise. Is there one thing that you could point to that has shifted us from a traditional

society to a sexual society? Well, of course, we've adopted largely this kind of, I call it, culture of self-invention. So instead of looking at objective normativity and objective value, we just say it's a matter of my choice to create reality. And so the great opponent of that is belief in God. If you believe in God, you believe in a supreme. objective value, and then arranged hierarchically under that or the other objective values, you get rid of God, you get rid of that whole framework, and all you're left with then is the freedom to invent reality. That's the ideology we're up against. That's another face of wokeism, by the way. But that's the struggle, you know. I would contest a bit,

there are certainly indicators over the past 30 years of this great decline. In more recent years, though, there have been some more encouraging signs of revival in religious belief, especially among young people and especially young men. Just recently I saw a study in both France and England. Numbers have gone up rather dramatically in terms of those joining the church. We still have a massive problem, and I've been tracing that for the past many years. The disaffiliation from the churches has been proceeding apace. But there are some hopeful signs, I'd say, in recent years. All right. A lot of it is the media portraying religious people as fanatics and you know i mean secular media dominates in america and in europe as well that you know

if you're going to church or something wrong with you and you know the atheists get all the attention all right bishop we really appreciate your point of view word on fire how can people get that one tell us how we can just go word on fire dot org and you can find all kinds of resources there sermons and podcasts and articles and so on all right and uh we appreciate uh your work and i hope we can talk again soon. Thank you. God bless you, Bill. Thanks. Okay, here's another one from the Trump administration. We're back. We're back to politics. So a federal judge, Trevor McFadden, who was appointed by Trump, said the Trump administration cannot ban the AP from covering the White House. And that spat was over the Gulf of Mexico versus the Gulf of America. Okay, you remember

it, right? Well, yesterday, the Trump administration told the AP, no, he can't, can't come in. All right, so it was a news conference with Trump and the El Salvadorian guy, and the AP was barred. But this goes against the order of Judge McFadden. So I'm saying to myself, this is not good. You don't, if you're any administration, don't really want to want to defy the judiciary because that leads to anarchy and due process blows up. There's a reason there's three legislative branches in here. Anyway, I expect the AP will be back, but I don't know. I don't know why they're doing it.

You know, they need the judiciary day, the Trump administration, to back them. The White House is readying legislation that's going to be given to Republican Congress people to axe the $535 million that goes every year to PBS NPR, which absolutely should happen. That is a colossal waste of money. They ought to compete on their own. And about $9 billion, it goes to the U.S. AID. And we know about Doge and Musk, and they expose all this waste and that. So it's in play.

I think he wants to get the big, beautiful spending bill done first, but that's coming up fast. CBS. So yesterday the ladies went into space. We covered it a little bit. It's a publicity stunt mainly. It doesn't have much to do with everybody's life. But after they came back, a CBS correspondent. named Vladimir Duthea was interviewing a former astronaut, May Jemison, who was on the flight.

And here's what happened. Go. Explain to our audience why even a trip like this one, all the trips that we take in the space benefit mankind. So it benefits humankind. And I'm going to keep correcting the mankind and the man-made and the man-missions, because this is exactly what this mission is about, is. expanding the perspective of who does space. So you can't say mankind.

It's humankind. Okay. Would I have apologized for saying mankind? No, I would not. Would I have chastised Miss Jameson, who's a patriot? Nah, I probably would have made a joke out of it. I said, okay, look, I'm a student of proper English. Madam, proper English is mankind, all right?

When you rewrite the rules of how the language was developed, then you can put in humankind, but for now it's mankind, because that's how English was developed. But now, it's woke now. Now Ms. Jameson has a perfect right to be a little bit of, you know, it's humankind, okay. It's fine. It doesn't bother me, but to be like... Rayband Meta Glasses are powered by Meta AI, so you can get real-time answers. Hey, Meta. How bougie is Jade Garden? It's a trendy spot.

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superior about it who better not say mankind uh bring it on lady smart life vacation time so summer's approaching expedia big vacation survey this is pretty interesting so uh 53 percent of americans did not use all their vacation time last year. That's crazy. All right. Americans take the least amount of vacation of any country, developed country, 11 days. That's it. 11 days. Okay. And they want more vacation. 65% say we're not getting enough vacation. To compare, let's go to Fromms. They get 30 days. So we get 11, France gets 30, okay, and they want more because French workers believe that it's a basic human right. Now, here's a quiz question.

What country in the world, and we're going to discount the communist countries because they don't have any freedom to do anything, what country in the world would you say is closest to America in polter? amount of vacation days off by law. Yes, go on. Japan. Japan. They get between 10 and 20 days over there. UK, it's 28. It's almost at French level. Poland, 26, Austria 25, but we get host here. Take your vacation time because it's a refresher. You'll be better on the job. take your vacation, lay in a hammock, lay on a beach, even tour around, do something you like to do. You've got to clear your mind, all right. Okay, Harvard.

So, interesting story. So Harvard University has $53 billion in a bank, $53 billion in endowments. incomprehensible. Now remember, Harvard was the first university in America. This goes all the way back to Cotton Mather, I write about, and killing the witches. Now, the Trump administration says it's freezing $2.2 billion of federal money going to Harvard. Why does that money go in there? Because of research, primarily.

Med school, business school, school of arts and sciences, research, research, research, Harvard's got great research, and the federal government pays for some of that. But the Trump administration says, nope, not getting it, $2.2 billion. Art doesn't care. Why would Harvey care? It's got $53 billion. The reason is that on campus, in Cambridge, the Palestinian movement is very strong. It's not so much that the students hate Jews, that they're anti-Semitic.

Not so much that. There are some anti-Semites, but not overwhelming amount. But they love the Palestinians there, and they don't like the state of Israel. They being the activist students at Harvard. The administration of Harvard isn't going to tamp that down. We're not going to do anything about it. Nothing. If somebody breaks a window or somebody assault somebody, they'll get expelled, but we're not going to change.

Our student body is pro-Palestinian. That's the way it's going to stay. Trump administration goes, okay, you're not getting $2.2.2 billion. Harvard goes, we don't care. We got $53 billion. There you go. Stay in history, April 15th, 1998. All right, 27 years ago, Pol Pot died.

You know, Pol Pot? One of the most horrendous individuals ever to live on this planet. Okay, so he was in charge of Cambodia, a communist. He was educated in France. He came back. He seized control of the government. And he killed, listen to the stat, when he took over in 1975, there were seven million Cambodians. Pol Pot killed four million of them, more than 50% of his own people.

That was the killing fields. They're still digging up graves now over there. okay this guy was a malady tongue disciple you don't agree with me i kill you that's it you die he got away with it he got away with it no court no arrest nothing he died 27 years ago in his house i guess 72 years old of an apparent heart attack now he was almost in confronting evil We had him on the board, but the book was too long, and I had to cut him out. I did, but he's at that level. Popat died 27 years ago today.

All right, we got some tips for your summer vacation coming up in a final thought. Okay, do you know what a procrastinator is? Yes, you know, somebody who puts off things. So a lot of people having made their vacation. plans for summer yet. It's in middle of April. This is not good. But if you are going on vacation and you start late, here is what you can expect. Sky high hotel rates. Highest in history. So you might look at the Airbnb or whatever that, because hotels are going to kill you. It's ridiculous. It really is absurd. And then if you haven't booked your airline flight,

Seats, there's a lot of people flying. And they've downgraded to smaller planes now, all right? So they're jammed. And then, rent a car. If you want to rent a car, you show up, a lot of times they go, well, we don't have it. The earlier you book, the better opportunity you have that they will have it when you show up. But if you're late, you're going to get hosed. Now, I try to drive.

You know, I have to go to Boston a lot, D.C. and I'll drive. I'll get in my car. Boom, boom, boom, boom. So much easier than the rent a car, the plane, the this, the that. So if you can drive your vacation, even if it's like 12, 13 hours, you kind of break it up, that is a better play because it's going to be very expensive and crowded to vacation this year. One other tip, not a lot of foreign tourists coming to the USA. That's way down because of the tariff stuff. But it's being made up by Americans wanting to go to the national parks and all that. So the final thought of the day is get on it this weekend. Lay it out is what I want to do, is what I want to do it, make it happen. Thank you very much for watching and listening to the No Spin News. We'll see you again tomorrow.