Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - Tax Dollars For Trans Prisoners, Elon Musk Against the Big Beautiful Bill, John McLaughlin Analyzes the Latest Trump Polling & Trump's Unreported Court Victory 

Episode Date: June 5, 2025

Tonight's rundown: Hey BillOReilly.com Premium and Concierge Members, welcome to the No Spin News for Wednesday, June 4, 2025. Stand Up for Your Country.  Talking Points Memo: Bill looks into U.S. Judge Royce Lamberth’s ruling requiring prisons to provide gender-affirming care for transgender individuals. What Elon Musk said about President Trump’s Big Beautiful Bill. John McLaughlin, CEO and Partner at McLaughlin & Associates, enters the No Spin Zone to break down the latest polling data on Donald Trump's approval ratings. A U.S. District Court judge has dismissed California’s lawsuit over Trump's tariffs.  The latest on the two Chinese nationals charged with smuggling a fungus linked to agroterrorism into the U.S. Final Thought: The Dumb Zone. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome to the No Spin News for Wednesday, June 4th, 2025, stand up for your country. Just before we went to taping, it was announced that President Trump and President Xi of China will have a phone call tomorrow. That's very good news. And I hope that my trip one week ago to Beijing, I know it didn't lead to that, but it might have helped a bit. We have a problem with Putin now growing, and I'm going to get into that tonight. The mullahs in Iran, they are caught in a very difficult position. I think they'll have to fold, but I could be wrong.

So there's a lot going on. But I want to start with something that's very important that a lot of people don't understand. and the media doesn't cover it, okay? And that is these judges that are trying to stop President Trump from implementing his agenda. And that is the subject of this evening's Talking Points memo. So yesterday, Judge Royce Charles Lamberth, 81 years old, Washington, D.C. District Court Judge, nominated by Ronald Reagan way back in 1987.

He said, hey, President Trump, you can't stop the federal prism system from providing gender-affirming care to convicts. I'm going to override your executive order, Judge Royce Charles Lambert. The guy's in nothing. He's in nothing. But yet he's going to stop. The President of the United States' executive order. Now, he'll be overturned because he's a nitwit. If you read the reason is, he says it's cruel and unusual punishment

that the American taxpayer not pay for convicts, all right, to transition their biology. That's cruel and unusual punishment? So we know what this is, all right? But I want to walk through it so you know what it is. So this lawsuit was brought by the ACLU, which is now a radical left organization, nothing to do with free speech whatsoever. It was brought to behalf of three convicts who are men but want to be women. Fine, okay, you pay for it, pal. I'm not paying for it. I'm not paying for your hair care. I'm not paying for anything. All right? Because my tax money is supposed to go to the country's benefit, not your benefit.

all right you punk you pay for your own stuff now the judge goes oh no no no all the taxpayers have the way to do it now he didn't say that we have to pay for surgery we got to be fair and reported accurately but all the grooming and addresses or whatever the hell else these people are doing again this will be overturned now in 2022 last available bureau of prisons info about $153,000 a taxpayer money went to these people. It's probably quadruple at now that the con is known and these prisoners go, yeah, I'm going to add whatever they're doing. Okay. And it is worth going back to President Trump's original executive order. So I'm going to read it to you. The Attorney General sure ensure the Bureau of Prisons revises its policies, turning medical care to be

consistent with this order and shall ensure that no federal funds are expended for any medical procedure, treatment, or drug for the purpose of conforming an inmate's appearance to that of the opposite sex. That is the executive order. There's nothing cruel and unusual about it. It's cruel and unusual to take my hard-earned money and give it to these people for what they want to do. That's cruel and unusual. And believe me, the two liberal, most liberal judges on the Supreme Court, they won't see it that way, but the others will. All right, now these judges are that the ACLU, they shop to get the crazy left judges all over from Seattle to Key West. They know the ACLU knows who's going to be nutty enough to hold up a, uh,

presidential order, and so that the ACLU files in those districts. When we get the con here, this has got to stop, because it's just chaos. You can't have the president of the United States at the whim of corrupt ideological judges. Ten. Now, the Founding Fathers knew two things. They did not want a king. So in the Constitution, they designed it so that, that every president has oversight by the judicial system, as it should be, because you could

get a loon in the presidency that says, hey, you all have to wear purple socks or something like that. And the judiciary goes, no. All right, so that is in the Constitution, that the judges can constrain presidential activity if they say it violates the Constitution. This clearly does not violate the Constitution, and I'll go up to the Supreme Court. The second thing was that the founding fathers understood that Congress can't move fast enough to protect us. He can't. They bicker. Look at this spending tax bill. It takes forever for these people to do anything. And back then, it were only 13 states that were 50. So the founding fathers said, we're going to give the president the power to issue executive orders to protect the people and the people's treasury, not to abuse the people.

That's what executive orders are supposed to be. Now, they are subject to review from the judiciary. but now that's being abused to the highest level in our history. And the Supreme Court has to rule on it. And I assume they will this month because after the end of June, they take three months off. So I assume that they're going to rule and knock this crazy stuff out to some extent. And that's the memo. All right.

The tax and spend bill that President Trump wants, I'm not going to cover it because it changes every hour on the hour, and I'm not going to get involved with this. But Elon Musk, who apparently now he and President Trump are feuding a little bit, he doesn't like the bill and he puts this out on X. Quote, I'm sorry, I can't stand it anymore. This is Elon Musk. This massive outrageous pork-filled congressional spending bill is disgusting abomination. Shame on those who voted for it. You know you did wrong, you know it. It will massively increase the already gigantic budget deficit to $2.5 trillion

and burned American citizens with a crushing unsustainable debt on, quote, Elon Musk, June 30. Okay, and that's his opinion, and he's entitled to it. And there are a lot of people who agree with Mr. Musk. Okay, I have to see the final bill. Now, what is not being reported, and the stats that he use are correct from the Congressional Buzzard Office, over a 10-year period, if this bill passes, the big, beautiful bill, $2.5 trillion will be added to the debt. I just mailchimp my marketing.

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10 years, if the situation continues. Isn't that an important thing that you should know? Okay, you're never going to know it. Watching the corrupt people on television or reading the newspapers. So anyway, it's in the Senate. You know it's in the Senate. I'm watching it. I don't, I can't predict it. I just can't. We're going to have Senator Johnson on next week. He's against the bill, so we'll have that. Three new polls about President Trump v. Zogby, favorable to the president. A thousand likely voters. Do you approve or disapprove?

48% approve of the job President Trump is doing. 49% disapprove. Split right down the middle. Trafalgar poll, pro-Trump poll. Okay? 1,098, likely general election voters. How do you feel about President Trump handling his general? job, approve 54, disapproved 46. That's a very strong number for the president. And the last

one is Atlas, this is out of Brazil, but they were the most accurate pollsters in the election of 2004. 3,469 adults, a big sample. Okay. Do you approve or disapprove job Donald Trump is doing? Approve 45, disapprove 54. You know, there's a big, it's almost exactly the opposite of Trafalgar. So joining us now is our go-to guy on the polling. John McLaugh was an honest man. He works for President Trump. I mean, we've got to let you know that.

He likes Trump. He likes his policies. He polls for Trump. But he's an honest man. All right. So can you explain to us the difference between Trafalgar and Atlas? Yes. Well, first of all, it's the difference between likely votes.

and adults. And we just posted a poll that we did last week at the same time as the Atlas poll was in the field. And we polled a thousand likely voters modeled after the 2024 election in demographics. And we had Trump's job approval of 51 and his disproved was 44. And it's a big difference because in the election last year, you only had 155 million voters go to the polls. there was over 90 million more eligible adults who didn't show up at the polls that there's polling when you're doing a poll in a sample of adults. What difference does that make? Shouldn't they have a right to put an opinion on Trump's performance?

Oh, they can have an opinion, but it's a poll of adults. It's not a poll of likely voters, so you get the disparity. And also when you go through the Atlas sample, they have a cross-tap for voted Trump, voted Harris, but in their demographics, they don't tell you how many people that they polled voted for Harris and voted for Trump. And that's been the flaw. We know in our likely voter polls, we used our polling as a strategy to raise his popular vote so we could sweep the battle around states so we'd get 50% of the national vote and to Harris is 48%. And that was our strategy. So it's not apples to apples. And when you look at Atlas, yeah, they were most

accurate last year because they were they were doing something that are replicated actual likely voters. These polls that are coming out now where you've got, I mean, the New York Times put out a poll, they had only had 37% Trump voters. The Washington Post, ABC, had only 34%. Yeah, I know. We don't even bother with them anymore because we know how corrupt it is. They had their thumb on the scale to use a cliche. How do you think Donald Trump is doing, though? I mean, you're seeing numbers every day. It's obvious he was successful or is successful, closing a border. Most people do support the ice raids and getting that whole thing under control. But the tariff situation is royal the American people, and I think divided it. Would I be wrong in saying that? Well, we have,

well, they don't grasp it as well as the tax cuts. In the national poll that we put up, 58% want them to get the tax cuts passed. 20% secure the border, 7% lower the price of oil and gas, 7% strength and national defense. But at the same time, we asked in the same poll, do you think the tariffs are hurt or have they helped? And 47% think they've helped right now, as of last week, only 38% said hurt. So the jury's still out on it. It's a much more complex issue. And hopefully...

Sure. But it really isn't. You know why, John? Because what it's going to come down to, and this will clarify itself by November, I think, is whether people are paying more money for the essentials of life. That's what it's going to be. I mean, people don't have to understand who's paying it and where it's coming from and this one's there and that's steel here and the cards are there and a agricultural...

they're going to walk into the grocery store and they're going, I'm getting a break under Trump or I'm paying more under Trump. And that's what's going to decide it. Am I wrong? They're exactly right. And that's why the tariffs issue is secondary and much, much less important than passing the tax cuts. Because if we don't pass the tax cuts, only half the voters know this. We know this for our following.

The Trump tax cuts lapse this year. Yeah. And everybody pays more. There's no doubt about it. So it is a vital thing, and that's why Trump is behind it so hard. I think he's going to get it passed, but there's going to be some Senate modifications. And Trump will live with that. He knows he has to negotiate it.

But the Democrats have downside too here, because if they vote and block not to pass it, then easily that anger, when people's taxes. go up can be transferred to the Democratic Party, right? Right, but hopefully the taxes never go up, but the Democrats, every Democrat in the Senate and the House, is on record as voting against extending the tax cuts. So they're all voted for the largest tax increase in the history of the amount. And we've got to hold them accountable. We've got to get a president.

And they hide behind this ridiculous, oh, we just want to tax the rich. But it isn't that. It's everybody. and you know it's the same thing about Medicaid oh they want to throw people up Medicaid no they want to regulate it they want to refine it but anyway political lies are you know they're never ending last question for you I think President Trump would have been better if he had not done so much so fast it would have been easier for him to convince the American people of why he's doing what he's doing

But because the change has been so massive, because the Biden administration was so horrible, that it all came at once. And it's almost too much for the average person who doesn't do what you and I do for a living to grasp it. So they're more subjected to propaganda. So if he had just not done and just incrementally done it, I think he'd be in a stronger position. Do you agree? You may be right, but it's hard to get him to do that. You know him personality-wise. Yeah, I know.

Biden left the country in such a mess. He has a 40 favorable, 56 unfavorable in our last ball. The guy left such a mess that Trump, you know, he's got to solve wars in Ukraine, the Middle East, secure the border, and try to get the economy to grow all at the same time. And you're dealing with the president now who has survived two assassination attempts after they tried to put. them in jail. So if we don't get the Trump tax cut past, have a growing economy, and we lose control of the House and the midterms, then we've got a big problem because they'll impeach him again. Yeah, for sure. I'm writing about that in my message today tomorrow about the midterms and now how it's starting to shape up. So, John, look, if you see any trends, just

do me a favor. Let us know about the president, both pro and con, because I think our audience It's very, we're numbers people here. Well, we don't want the propaganda. We want the hard numbers. And we really appreciate it, as always. Thanks for helping us out. Okay, tonight at the White House, a big soiree. She's, thousands of people are going to show up.

They're all individuals hired by the Trump administration. 3,200 political appointees have been put into offices in D.C. Since Donald Trump was sworn in. And they're not going to all be there at the White House, but this is going to be a big sullet. and they're gonna dine on our nickel. So I have a good time. That's going on tonight.

Today, Trump talked with Putin. Okay, so I was on Hannity and it's worth listening to. We almost did an hour on the Hannity radio program because of my trip to China, you had a lot of questions. But Ryan Reynolds here from IntMobil. With the price of just about everything, going up, we thought we'd bring our prices down. So to help us, we brought in a reverse auctioneer, which is apparently a thing. Mint Mobile unlimited, premium wireless. How did it to get

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Trump on the phone today that he's going to have revenge for the Ukrainian attack on the jets. Well, what do you think? This is a war. Ukraine's supposed to just let you bomb them and not come back. And Ukraine blew up the bridge that goes to Crimea. That bridge cost $32 billion dollars the Russians a bill. They blew it up. So the Ukrainians aren't laying down. And Trump can't do anything about it. Trump thought he could control Putin. But he can't. can't. So what's next? Next is Europe taking the lead in the, I mean, the worst economic sanctions in history have to be imposed on Russia. Now, China would violate those unless Trump can convince she tomorrow to back away from Putin. And I, one week ago in Beijing, told the Chinese

politicians, don't ally yourself with a psychotic individual. That is not going to turn out well. When you're willing to accept one million casualties to invade a small country and your army can't even defeat their army, you don't want to be on their side. That's what I told the Chinese. Okay? I don't know how it's going to play out. I am very very, very, very, optimistic that Donald Trump understands the total dynamic in play here. Okay? And it all links together. China, Russia, Iran. Now, the positive thing, according to the president, an hour and 15 minutes, he talked to Putin today, was that Putin said, I'll help you with Iran. Get no nukes there. Because Putin doesn't care about

Iran and nukes don't do anybody any good. And the chain, again, this came up in Beijing with me and I said, why would you want Iran to have nukes? Because if any nuclear weapon goes off, the whole world is negatively impacted and you have a billion and a half people to feed. You don't need Iran handing off nukes to terrorists. So let's help. so I'm optimistic that Iran will fold

but I was wrong about Putin in the sense that I thought that Trump would have a little juice with the man now that's still talking good thing but boy this Putin where do you see what I have come up with in confronting the presidents which you can pre-order now and you get it first comes out September 9th I mean we explain everything every step on this guy

Okay. Back here in the USA. So the Trump administration won a victory, a legal victory today. You never know it. I didn't see it anywhere. Not even a Fox. So the state of California sued the Trump administration for opposing tariffs, which is insane. State doesn't have any standing, okay? But a judge, a very liberal judge, Jacqueline, Scott Corley, Northern District of California, threw it out. And she was appointed by Biden, of course, threw the lawsuit out. It said it belongs in the Court of International Trade. That was a big victory for Trump. Didn't hear it reported anywhere. All right, two Chinese nationals working at the University of Michigan.

Young Queen Jean and her boyfriend, Zanyang Lu, are charged with bringing agro-terrorist agents into the United States, according to FBI Director Cash Patel. Okay? This is not a surprise. Okay? Everybody who knows what the situation is between the United States and China knows they're spying and there's stuff going on, sabotage. Look at the balloons. What we're trying to do is tamp it down.

Okay, so these two, and they're in trouble. And the University of Michigan, you gotta look at who you're letting in here. Okay, so they're charged with conspiracy to defraud the USA, smuggling goods in the country, false statements, on and on and on and on. Not gonna be any bail. Maybe they'll be in a prisoner swap someday, I don't know.

But that happened. Now, Governor Newsom's, people, these people all have people. They met with Chinese business officials. Can't get any information about this. I don't even think Newsom was in the meeting, but it took place in Los Angeles about trade because both California and China need trade.

Now Newsom can't do a damn thing. That comes out of the federal level, but they had that meeting and you should be aware of it. Smart life, political opinions. So, this is Pew and a pretty good. Pugh research, 3,589 respondents. And they're asking about Democrats and Republicans whether you feel comfortable giving your opinion in public. Remember, it's a smart life, so I have a thing at the end here. Republicans, very comfortable giving opinion, 74%. Not comfortable 25.

Democrats, very comfortable giving opinion, 70, less than Republicans, not comfortable 30. Okay, and it's obvious that the left is on the run in this country. The woke people, they have no constituency. Now the smart life component to this, don't do it. It's not worth it, okay? I know people spot off all the time. I know it drives you nuts.

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in Tiananmen Square with my 21-year-old son, right across the street from the Forbidden City, okay, in the middle of Beijing. And I thought about 36 years ago, on June 4th, 1989, maybe 10,000 Chinese civilians killed. They were protesting. That happened 36 years ago today. So there was a dissenter in China named Hugh Yobai. bang, and he wanted some democratic reform. And he rallied a bunch of students who on May 13th entered Tiananmen Square, which is a huge area, space in the middle of Beijing. Okay.

The Chinese government responded by declaring martial law one week later. And after the martial law declaration, quarter of a million Chinese troops went into Tiananmen Square where the protesters were. and they shot them. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Not over their heads, not rubber bullets. Boom. Got it.

Same thing happened to me in Buenos Aires. When the Argentine surrendered in the Falklands War, I saw it. Okay, I obviously wasn't in Tiananmen Square. Anyway, that was the last protest in China. That meant anything. And that Chinese government sent a signal, you're going to protest against us, we're going to shoot you down. No more protests.

And that happened 36 years ago today. Back with a final thought on the dumb zone in a moment. Okay, so I'm going to institute some new things here. We've been on the air more than eight years, most successful independent news agency in the world. and with this China stuff and YouTube exploding, and boy, oh boy, I never in a million years could have predicted this ever. But anyway, you got to freshen it up. So there are so many dumb things being said on television and radio that I'm going to kind of spotlight.

Not every day, but when I'm feeling a little grouchy. All right. So I'm going to give you an example. There's a guy named Ellie Mistell. Okay, I think he works for MSNBC, see him on there all the time. He writes for the Nation magazine, you know, come on. Anyway, Mistel goes on the view on April Fool's Day, which is appropriate, and he says this, go. One of my premises for the book is that every law passed before the 1965 Voting Rights Act should be presumptively unconstitutional, right?

But because before the 1965 Voting Rights Act, we were functionally an apartheid country. No, that's just dumb. Okay, I mean, it's just, what are you going to do? But even dumber was all the five ladies on the view, none of them challenged them. None of them. Okay, so we were a apartheid country. That means that blacks couldn't own land, couldn't have a job. You know, that's what apartheid is.

if you look at South Africa, okay? That's what, according to this loon, and the ABC News people, and remember, ABC News runs the view, nobody go, wait a minute, I don't think that's true. I don't think that Franklin Delano Roosevelt ran an apartheid system.

I don't think John F. Kennedy did. I don't think that really is true. no nothing so the dumb zone and it's going to keep us busy there's lots of dumb stuff but i'm going to keep it very simple um and the reason i'm doing this i got a letter um from uh somebody i didn't use the letter but it said hey you you don't like people calling people names like moron and this and it's true i don't and i wrote back i try not to do that i try to do that i try to label the behavior of the person moronic or stupid or whatever not the person themselves i know i'm slicing it here but i don't like the invective the personal attacks and they're all over

social media because that's how you make a name for yourself as i say you make a name for yourself by partisan ideological attacks like biden or or schumer or you know uh nancy pelosi or whatever it may be And then on the other side, I'd Trump or mosque and what these people do all day long. It's lazy, it's insignificant. But you have to put things in the perspective. Joe Biden was so bad as a president. And Hannity brought up this point today on the radio program, which again, I hope you check out on bill o'Reilly.com. He's like that Trump was handed all of the thing, all of these things that he had to fix fast.

It was exactly like Abraham. when he walked in Civil War is a fate of complete because of that boob, and I am calling him that, President James Buchanan, the worst president ever, okay? Because that, his cowardice, Buchanan's led to more than a million American deaths. They don't top that. But Biden's second, second, if you can imagine that. And if you don't believe me, or he confronting the president. I mean, there you go. So thank you very much for watching and listening to the NoSpin News. We'll see you again tomorrow.