Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - The Trump-Biden Debate Rules, Biden's Hollywood Fundraiser Controversy, Victor Davis Hanson on America's Decline, Terrorist Arrest Coverage, & More

Episode Date: June 18, 2024

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Hey Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to the No Spin News, Monday, June 17th, 2024, stand up for your country. Well, the news cycle really heating up, I'm blaming it on climate change. You know, did you ever notice now whenever there's a storm or a fire or anything? the AP, the Associated Press, which usually reports on these things, it's always global warming,

always, no matter what it is, could be an avalanche, a snow, it could be anything. And I don't want to be cynical, I do believe that, you know, the planet is changing. I think that that's happening. We just don't know exactly why, although I want a much cleaner situation, as I'm sure you do as well. But everybody's overheated, and that is extending into the news cycle. Today, the Talking Points memo is about the CNN debate upcoming on Thursday, June 27th. You know all about it, I'm sure. Okay, so you got Trump and Biden.

They're going to be on the stage. It's going to be in Atlanta. You've got to have Dana Bash and Jake Tapper to CNN people moderating it. Here are the rules just announcing both Trump and Biden agreed to these rules. minute debate, two commercial breaks, candidates will appear at their respective podiums, okay, I would assume that, and the campaign staff will not be allowed to interact with the candidates. All right? So then the microphones will be muted until the candidate is designated to speak, so therefore

no one can interrupt, which is not really a great thing, but But, you know, I think it'll help Trump because Trump is a tendency to interrupt every second. All right. The candidates will not be permitted to have pre-written notes or props. They can't have a pen and a pad of paper and some water. Well, that's nice. No live audience. Now, I wrote a column yesterday called It's Debatable, predicting exactly what's going to happen in this debate.

So I want you to read the column or, you know, download it. And then when a debate happens and I'm 100% correct, you can send me a nice email. saying, hey, Bill, how'd you do it? But here's the situation. OK, so I'm getting all kinds of mail that Biden's going to have an earpiece. I have an earpiece right now. He's not going to have an earpiece.

Then I'm getting that he's going to know the questions ahead of time. He's not going to know the questions ahead of time. Because if CNN does anything, all right, it's through. Remember, CNN is the lowest ratings of history now. They're right on the cliff. They can't do, they have to play it straight. Now, play it straight.

They got two moderators who hate Trump. They hate her. And you do his research, tap her and bash, and you'll see it. There's no doubt about it. So I have a suggestion for Donald Trump. Now, to be fair, I should have a suggestion for Joe Biden, but I don't because all he's going to do is memorize stuff and spit the memorization back if he can't. The drama is, will Joe remember what he's memorized?

Okay? So, but Trump has an opportunity that he doesn't even know about. But I want to tell you, because I'm not in a business to be helping political candidates. So if I'm Trump on the stage and the thing evolves the way I believe it will with Bash and Tapper, basically be asking questions about 9-11, about, not 9-11, about January 6th, about the election fraud, this is where they're going to go. They're going to try to embarrass Trump, gotcha Trump. Going to go, oh, you said this, you said that, you said this, you're going to kill people,

blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, like that. If I'm Trump, all I say is, look, I'm not even going to bother with that tonight. I want to give you my vision for the future and then give the vision for the future. Remember, they can't interrupt Trump. Then about halfway through the debate, if it's as softball as I think it will be, Remember that CNN has to ask Biden about the border, but they don't have to follow up when Biden blames Trump for all the problems, which he will do.

So if I'm Trump, when they ask me a question about halfway through, I said, I'll answer that in a moment, but why don't you guys ask Joe Biden this? Boom. Trump should have five of those. Why don't you ask him this? I think people would like to know that. Now, that puts the moderators in a terrible position if they don't ask it.

Because everybody will, yeah, how come they're not asking that? And I mean obvious questions about the border, about inflation, about Ukraine, about Israel, whatever it may be. Okay? If Trump does that, he wins that debate because he throws CNN into confusion. Let me recap again. You've got to wait to halfway through, and it's apparent that Tapper and Bash are not going to try to pin Biden down. And Trump says, whatever's asked of him, I'll answer that in a moment, but I have a suggestion he has to do it politely. Why don't you ask President Biden about this?

And then every question hence, he throws one in. Is that brilliant? Come on. Bill at Bill O'Reilly.com. If he does that, it's over. He wins. And that's a memo. All right.

Joe Biden, fundraiser, controversy. Now, remember, he's wobbly, and I'd be wobbly. So he goes to Europe, and then he comes back, then he goes to Europe again, then he goes to L.A. I mean, the guy has got to be wobbly. But he goes to raise $28 million in a celebrity fundraiser in Los Angeles, and this happens at the end of it. So roll a tape now, we'll take a look. So there is Biden and Obama, Jimmy Kimmel, standing there and waving at the crowd, and then all of a sudden President Obama takes President Biden's wrist and leads him off the stage.

Okay. So immediately, the anti-Biden forces say, hey, look at that. Obama had to pull him off the stage. Now, let's be fair about this. It's a wide shot. We don't know, all right, exactly how that came. But it looks like on the hand to the wrist that Obama was taking them off the stage. Now, this comes after the Italian situation where you saw the tape, where Biden was wandering away, and then the New York Post and others said,

oh, look, he's wandering off the group, and the Italian president had to bring him back. Well, he was wandering for a reason, and the Post didn't report that. He wanted to greet one of the flyers that did the overhead. Okay? That wasn't fair. This one, if I'm betting here, I'm betting that Obama let him off the stage. But I could be wrong. Let's face it, the U.S. economy is under stress. National debt rising, trade war, shaking the markets.

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He is frozen and Barack Obama grabs him by the arm. Look, snaps out of it, and then this is smart. Obama knows, you know, sort of pats him on the back and then just sort of walks him off stage and pretends they're having a conversation, which, of course, they're not. Well, how does he know they're not? How would he possibly know they're not having a conversation? See, that's a kind of commentary. You've got to watch that.

You really have to watch it. So the White House issued this statement, quote, Fresh up being fact-checked by at least six mainstream news organizations for lying about President Biden with cheap fakes. Rupert Murdoch's sad little super PAC, the New York Post, is back to disrespecting its readers and itself. Once again, by pretending the president taking in a plodding crowd for a few seconds is somehow wrong. Their ethical standards could be deal with a little unfreezing. Okay. The New York Post has been Biden's main tormentor.

There's no doubt about that. that, all right? But, you know, the White House has got the Democratic Party allied with NBC News, ABC, CBS, CNN, all of them. Here's what was said on MSNBC. Go. Because they have to keep engaging in cheap fakes to try to make Joe Biden look bad. And they go to this weekend. They've done it over the past several weeks. They've got the New York Post doing it, the R&C's doing it, all of these right-wing stooges on X are doing it. All right. I mean, come on, White House, you got most of the media.

By the way, that program there, it's watched by less than a million people. I mean, it gets a lot of ink because the progressive left media promotes its own. They don't really matter. but it's an interesting comment my take is this we here will only report what we know to be true i don't know if biden froze on that l-a stage and had to be led off by obama it looks that way but i don't know a hundred percent all right president's schedule he didn't do anything today, and I wouldn't either. I'd be sleeping 24 hours. He meets at 3.30 with Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, who heads NATO. Okay. I don't expect Mr. Biden to do much. He's got to start

to debate prep, because it's going to take him a while and memorize all those answers. Involved in his campaign is a very simple question. Will America evaporate slowly or quickly if one or the other are elected, Trump or Biden. That's what both sides are saying. Okay? So if you vote for Trump, you won't have a country, quote Donald Trump. If you vote for Biden, you won't have a country. If you vote for Trump, you won't have democracy.

That's what it is. So one person is following this is, I have said he's a better columnist than I am. I have said that publicly. His name is Victor Davis Hanson. You know him. He's got a new book out called The End of Everything, How Wars Descend into Annihilation. I'm reading the book. I'm in a chapter with the Astex, okay, because I'm a history guy, and I like all this stuff.

So Professor Hanson, he teaches at Pepperdine, he's at the Hoover Institution, he's a busy guy, but he's taking time out to join us now from Palo Alto, California. So number one about the book, I'm enjoying the book. but you know this is a hardcore history book so people should know that it's not contemporized but the message certainly is because a lot of people feel that the USA is in steep decline on a number of fronts do you believe that I do and I didn't write the book for that purpose but once I looked at these examples of Thebes and Carthage and as you said the Aztecs at Tenochitlan and of course

Constantinople there were certain themes Bill that once powerful states or nations were in decline and yet in denial, they felt that they were as robust as ever, that the enemy wouldn't dare attack them, that there would be allies on the horizon to save them, that even if they were attacked, the nature of their enemies were not, they weren't existential. They didn't want to destroy them. Who would want to do that? And yet, so when I finished, I wrote an epilogue and looked at various places around the world where there are bad, actors like that but more importantly there are once powerful nations that don't reinvest in what once made them powerful and yet they're in complete denial about their vulnerability and i think the united states fits that pretty well but i think a lot of the voters are worried i mean my mail reflects that i get thousands of letters uh and it reflects that if joe biden and i believe this myself because i ought to be up front when i do my commentary i believe another four years of joe Biden will damage this country almost beyond repair.

And I have a book coming out in September call confronting the presidents where we evaluate every president, all 45, and where they help or hurt the country. Joe Biden has hurt the country so dramatically in three and a half years. He ranks up as his second worst president next to James Buchanan, the guy who totally booted the Civil War. Okay. So another four years of a Biden who cannot even function on a day-to-day basis. And if he dies or incapacitated, Kamala Harris, because she's not going to kick her off the ticket.

All right? Then I'm saying to myself, it's over because there are no restraints then. Biden's got some restraints now, which is why he issued the executive order on the border. He'll have none that. And so we'll have every front. It'll be socialism. That's what I think is in play here. Socialism. Do you see it the same way?

Yeah, I do. What's new about Biden is that the border was always porous, but it was never non-existent. He's destroyed it as a concept. And we always had high crime spikes, but we never had a period where crime was legitimized as sort of a critical legal theory or critical race theory that the oppressed had certain rights to take what wasn't theirs, for example. We've never borrowed a trillion dollars every 90 days. to be elected at that rate we could borrow another 16 trillion there is limits to that

and when we have all of this natural wealth and energy and food and people and we're not utilizing it or we're utilizing it in a destructive way i'm very worried about the military 45 000 recruits short and when you look at the people who are not joining bill they're the very demographic that died at double their numbers in afghanistan and iraq in the demographic so they they have done something and we could get i don't want to get into it to alienate white males from the interior or the rural areas of america that traditionally were willing to go to god-awful places to serve their country and so there's a lot of things going on that are very very dangerous and i agree entirely and you know this as well as anybody you saw the parallel with the roman

empire that once the romans could not recruit among roman citizens and had to hire mercenaries that was the beginning of the end of the empire And now we don't have enough people to fill our military roles, whereas China and Russia are accelerating their military presence to a degree probably never be foreseen in their history. Now, Joe Biden, if you trace his past in the Senate, he was never a left-wing bomb thrower. Now he is.

What happened? Well, I think there was a Faustian bargain made in that 2020 primary race where they had all of these extremists, Buttig, Corey, Booker, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, etc., and they were all felt to be not competitive against Trump. And so there was an idea that they were all, remember, almost in unison, they dropped out, and the deal was that they knew that Joe Biden was cognitively challenged then. but he had a reputation of old Joe Biden from Scranton, and he would provide the proper veneer.

But in exchange in that Faustian bargain, he was to outsource major appointments and even policy directives to the team that had been around Barack Obama. And I think that's what we got. He was supposed to be old Joe Biden from Scranton, and then we've got Susan Rice, the Obama's, Eric Holder,

and the foreign policy, Ben Rhodes, and all of those people who I think are directed, the policy of the Biden administration. I think the bombers feel that they were the frontier, they were the pathbreakers into socialism, and they were restricted because they had to, they were the first people to be that radical, and now they feel a tinge of regret

that we could have done so much more had we been more bold, but now Biden is this empty vessel that offers us an opportunity, and that's what they're doing. All right, that's a good explanation, as they've heard. But remember, under eight years of Obama, he wasn't a bomb-throwing far-left guy. He deported more migrants than any other president in history. He didn't open the border.

He was weak in foreign policy. There's no question about that. And then his economics, you know, the Obamacare, you can make an argument on both sides. But it wasn't, you know, a punitive time for the American worker. Now it is. Do you believe Biden made that Faustian bargain, as you put it, consciously, or he's just so far out there? He just doesn't know from day to day what's happening, and he just does, as he's instructed to do. Which is it?

I think it's the latter. I think his wife is playing sort of the Edith Wilson role, and that she's got gatekeepers around him, but he was not aware of, I don't think he's aware of all at all of what he's saying or I don't. I think you're right. Jill Biden is a villain, I think. But in Afghanistan, no cognizant president would have done what he did. Barack Obama never would have done that. Never. In a million years, would he have abandoned all of those weapons, put Americans and Afghans who helped the USA at risk and turned over government to the Taliban. Barack Obama would not have done that. No, but Joe Biden did. He did. And remember that. as we left, we had the pride flag flying from the embassy, we had a gender studies program at

the University of Kabul, we had George Floyd Murals. So we were culturally imperialistic, but we didn't have the military heft. So we suffered from both being culturally arrogant and then militarily weak. But no, that was from the people around Joe Biden. And he just signed off on to it. We've got a lot of radical people around him. I do think that Obama was very transparent when he once said, do you regret you didn't do things in which you ever liked a third term? And he famously said, well, you know, if I could just stay in my basement and phone it in without having to do the work, but I could phone in my directives, that would be an ideal third

term. I think that was really something that we should have taken seriously because I think that's where we are now. Yeah, but if he wants a third term, all he's got to do is put Michelle out there, and Michelle would probably win. Now, on the other side, democracy on the ticket, Trump is a fascist, everybody's, Alexandria Ocasio-Coyotez is going to be put in a camp. This is cartoonish stuff, but do you think that some of the folks buy it?

I think they will. I think when you look at these conspiracies theories or whatever they are, we forget they worked. I mean, Donald Trump lost the popular vote in 2016 as a result, probably of collusion. And none of those people were ever prosecuted that hired Christopher Steele, Perkins Co., GPS, D&C. That was illegal to hire a foreign national and then create that dossier. And the laptop people, when Anthony Blinken rounded up those 51 authorities and that empowered Joe Biden in the debate, and I think that had some bearing on the election, none of those people wherever have ever apologized. They've never admitted they lied to the American people. Anthony

Blinken suffered no downside. So when I look at these conspiracy theories, they all seem to have had some utility. And it suggests to me that whether you call them October surprises or whatever, we're going to see a lot of them. You mentioned one. And I think there's going to be this narrative that Donald Trump is going to end democracy. He's going to put people in camps. They're going to have all sorts of frenzy. I think another one is going to be that actually he's more debilitated than Joe Biden. He slurs his word. People in private meetings say that he's no more.

Yeah, Trump does too much media. That's not going to agree. I'd like to bring you back sometime this summer just to talk about your state, California. Right now, there's a movement in California, as you well know, to block referendums that are on the ballot, okay, on crime and taxes. by the far, far left legislature in Sacramento and Governor Newsom. They want to stop the people from voting on crime, safety, and lower taxes. It's an unbelievable story that goes to the totalitarianism of the left,

but I don't have time to do it tonight. But will you come back sometime this summer and chat with me about it? Because you know a lot about that. Absolutely, Bill. I'll be happy to. Okay. Thank you, Professor. Really. The book is The end of everything, how wars descend into annihilation. It does have an absolute linkage to what we are going through here today. Hey, I'm Caitlin Becker, the host of the New York Postcast, and I've got exactly what you need to start your weekdays.

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Big story, right? Well, the FBI chief says, hey, he's real worried about terrorism. Will it tape. Well, I've been consistent in my message externally and internally about my concerns, about the threats that are from the FBI's perspective that emanate from the border. Okay, big story. We did it. here's who did it and here's who did not right after the arrest that night did not cover

ABC News, World News Tonight, NBC Nightly News, CBS Evening News, totally shut out. MSNBC Prime didn't cover. On FNC, Jesse Waters and Hannity and Gutfeld did not mention. I was surprised. Did cover CNN Aaron Burnett, CNN Anderson Cooper, FNC, Laura Ingraham. They did cover it. So you can see that anything that would hurt Joe Biden is going to be suppressed. I think the FNC people that didn't cover it were more interested in other stories, but if I were producing those programs, they absolutely would have covered it.

Lara Trump is the co-chair of the Republican National Committee. She says she's sending out 100,000 poll watchers to the boat in November, 100,000. Now, I studied by the Brennan Center for Justice says that voter fraud is small in this country. If you were interested, it's the Brennan Center for Justice, you can look it up. Now 50 states, each one runs its own vote, and people are concerned about fraud. A lot of people believe that Trump lost that cause of fraud. But we have to go by the stats. So we have two states that have studied voter fraud.

is Ohio and it basically found out that there's very, very little in Ohio. They let's see, it's 137 suspected non-citizens in Ohio voted out of 8 million. North Carolina did the same thing, 41 foreign national suspected of voting out of 4.8 million. So we are a stat-fact-driven program. You should know all that. Media corruption. So Tucker Calls is doing a live tour. I think he's doing 15 shows.

All right. And a guy named Oliver Darcy at CNN hates Tucker Carlson. Darcy hates me. He hates anyone who's ever had anything to do with Fox News. Anyone who's walked by the Fox building, Oliver Darcy hates. Okay, so he's trying to kill the Tucker Carlson shows. He's trying to kill it, all right? Here's what he says, and he works for CNN.

This is on a CNN dime. Quote, companies with basic ethics should, of course, reject doing business with dishonest figures, Tucker Carlson, who profit by dumping toxic waste into the country's information environment. But doing so puts them at risk of being targeted by these very same people who, like Trump, have tremendous sway over the vast majority of Republicans and a lightning rod for painful boycotts.

So basically what Darcy is saying is that no company, no arena, no ticket master, no anybody should do business with Tucker Crofts. That's fascism. Okay, in my opinion. But you should know this is the level of hate. Smart life. internet addiction may affect your teen's brain. It's not may. Okay, it is. And most teenagers are addicted to the internet, unfortunately. So this comes in a mental health journal. It's a study

neuroimaging of hundreds of adolescents ages 10 to 19 who heavily use the internet. The findings. When participants clinically diagnosed with an addiction, engaged in activities governed by the brain's executive function network, behaviors requiring attention, planning, decision-making, and impulse recall collapse. Now, I know this is true. You know this is true. It's in smart life for this reason. Most young people, and even into their 40s and 50s, that I encounter now, are having very very, very hard time processing verbal instructions. They can't do it. They can't remember. When I order food, when I order anything, I repeat three times, and then I have the person on the other end of the line, read it back to me. So it's so frustrating because the written, the

spoken word is vanishing as far as any kind of command is concerned. I had a middle-aged woman said and it wasn't confused. Text it to me. I was given her a couple of dates

that things were going to happen. Couldn't do it. Could not take, could not get the information into a brain by verbal. It's happening. Be very very, very cautious, especially if it's important. Okay, back it up with a text or an email.

You have to. All right, out on the east end of Long Island, there's a deli called a red horse market. Okay, I pass it a lot. It's in East Hampton. They are charging $120 for a pound of lobster salad. I made all the New York papers, $120 for a pound of lobster salad. The best quote was, I have no problem with this because the deli is separating fools from their money. I love that quote. What kind of a blank and moron would be $120 for a pound of lobster salad? It should cost you $25. But they get it because there are very, very wealthy people out there.

They don't care. They don't care. They sit their money on fire. Stay in history, June 17, 1885, Statue of Liberty arrives in New York Harbor, 139 years ago, today, 1885. All right, they sent it in boxes, okay, it 350 pieces and 214 crates. And we had to assemble it, President Grover Cleveland. Oh, I write about him in confronting the president, you don't believe this guy. He was in charge. He takes it and they build the big Statue of Liberty. Now, why did they do it? Why did France do this? It cost them 500, 5.5.5 million in today's money to send that over here. Why did they do it? The Third Republic was underway in France. And it was dicey. Okay? And they wanted to send a message to the French people, they, the French government, the Third Republic, that the

democracy works. So they sent the Statue of Liberty over here, hoping that we get all kinds of good publicity, and that's why it happened. Okay, back in a moment with a final thought. All right, here is the final thought of the day. Nine years ago, yesterday, okay? Donald Trump announced he was running for president. Now, I your humble correspondent did the first interview with him after that 2015 announcement here's a look the first debate is fox and in the top 10 on the polling average are going to get in so you may very well get into that debate all right so you're going to be looking at the other nine are you going to slash them are you going to get up there honest bill uh are you i will take my heart out of it i don't care i'm either going to win

or i'm not going to win and if i don't win i'm going to go back to building the greatest But it's got to be a strategy. I'll go to Turnberry in Scotland, which I own. I'll go to Durrell in Miami, which I... Look, look, no, no, I have a strategy. But I don't know. All my life... You don't know if you're going to slash and burn.

I won't be the nicest. I'm just going to be honest. I'm not going to slash him, but I'm going to be honest. They don't have it. Well, he slashed and burned. Little Marco, Lion Ted. And now they're all his friends. Except...

Jeff Bush, not his friend. Bush family, oh, they all like Donald Trump. That was the most fascinating thing I have ever reported on in my 50 years politically. The wars that I covered were the most fascinating thing. But politically, the rise of Donald Trump and how he defeated nine establishment Republicans in the 2016 vote was absolutely stunning just from a historical basis because he had he had no center of gravity now he does the former president he's got an organization he's got the maga people he's got a baseline he had no baseline at all that's what he was saying ah if i lose i'll i'll go to scotland i'll go to miami i have a good life i don't

needed, and he was telling the truth. He decided to do it because to him, there was no downside to running for president, even if he lost. So why? He discovered the downside when he was successful. And in history, as you'll see in confronting the presidents, only one other president went through more personal attacks and vilification than Donald Trump. Only one, and that was Abraham Lincoln. Now, there was some nasty, nasty brawls. Andrew Jackson, John Quincy Adams, Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, nasty. I mean, but nothing like what Donald Trump has gone through.

Now, I'm not portraying him as a victim, though. There's a difference. As a historian, he's been treated unfairly. That's true. Okay, by the press and by the Democratic establishments in the justice side, the liberal states. There's no doubt about that. But he brought some of it on himself, Donald Trump did. He knows that.

I've discussed it with him. All right. But he believes, and he might be right about this, he believes, he believes, the more outraged, he can make the American voter the better chance he has of getting back to the Oval Office. Because I keep going to him, and I actually had a brief exchange with him over this anniversary, because he remembers the interview that I did with him. I keep pounding statesman, statesman, statesman, you got a record to run on to him.

and then he keeps going, I got to whip up the crowd. It worked the first time. I don't know if it's going to work the second time. And earlier in this broadcast, I said, I didn't have any advice for Joe Biden on the debate. And I don't because I can't calibrate what his state of mind is. I gave Trump the best tip he'll ever get on the debate.

But I was thinking about Biden. If I'm advising Biden, I don't know what to tell him. He doesn't have a, he can't run on anything. All of his policies have failed. I mean almost 100%. What would I do? I'll come up with something down the road. Thank you for watching and listening to the NOSPN News.

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