Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - The Tyre Nichols Travesty, Ben Ferguson on the Situation in Memphis, Biden's False Statements, China's Danger, & More

Episode Date: January 31, 2023

Tonight's rundown:  Talking Points Memo: Bill breaks down the death of Tyre Nichols and how it impacts the country. Podcast host Ben Ferguson joins the No Spin News CNN fact check's President Biden's latest claims, finding many untrue remarks Another ISIS leader killed The China threat This Day in History: Mahatma Gandhi is assassinated Final Thought: Bill announces his latest 'Killing' book... Killing the Witches In Case You Missed It: Read Bill's latest column, "Hitler, Tojo, Putin, and Xi" Let your people know you're a No Spin guy or gal! Get the new No Spin Polo, available at BillOReilly.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to the No Spin News Monday, January 30, 2023, stand up for your country. You know, I've had now three days to think about this Memphis police killing. The good, honest news analysis takes a little time, okay? It's not glib. It shouldn't be based on ideology, but it often is. It should be trying to find out the why behind the story, and that is what we are trying to do tonight. I hope we'll be successful. But this story in Memphis, Tennessee, hurts every single American, every one of us, and that is a subject.

of this evening's talking points memo. So you've heard about it, 29-year-old Tyree Nichols, a federal express worker, no criminal record, was driving home, and he got pulled over on January 7th of this year by the police for alleged reckless driving. After that, all hell broke loose. Now, It took three days for Tyree to die. It was in the hospital brutally beaten. You've seen the video. I can't watch the whole thing, but it is so harrowing, it's so disturbing that the main question is why would these police officers do this?

So the five of them be charged with second-degree murder. Tadarius Bean, Demetrius Haley, Emmett Martin, Desmond Mills, Justin Smith. Okay, all veterans of the force, all part of a street crimes unit named Scorpion, okay, which has been disbanded now. Nichols, Tyree, I don't know. I don't know why this escalated to that point. You could glean a little bit on the video, but it was obvious that this was an overreaction. So there are reports today that the police did call for backup, but the bottom line is they had the man's car. They had Tyree's car.

They knew who he was, that if things were out of control, so you had to use tasers and pepper spray and all that, just let him go. And you get them later. You don't physically beat the man because anything could happen when you do that. But the kicker on this is, and I'm sorry I use that word kicker because Tyree was kicked when he was down. George Floyd, these officers had to know that they were putting their own lives in jeopardy by doing this for a traffic stop. Tyree was not a danger to public safety. So what is it that goes through the minds of police officers where they take their own lives? What do I mean by that?

They're going to be convicted. They're going to spend decades in prison. Their families are devastated, all five. So look at the casual account now. The worst is Tyree Nicholas. He's dead. But at his family? and friends and then the cops families and friends and it just mounts and mounts and mounts and

mounts all right so I looked up the backgrounds of these cops and there's nothing unusual about them three of them attended and have degrees from universities it's not like they were some kind of irresponsible unit, but they all did the wrong thing. Now, Memphis, Tennessee, has the highest violent crime rate in the United States, and the crime rate is centered in the black neighborhoods. So that's why you had to have the Scorpion unit to try to suppress the violent crime in Memphis. It's true. But if you're not in control of your as a police officer, then you're not going to suppress anything and you're going to escalate and that's what happened.

So again, I come back to the fact that it doesn't make any sense to any rational person. And the unintended consequences are staggering. So every good cop, and most of them are, is now suspect in the eyes of some Americans. That's number one. the United States of America, what do you think they think about us? Over there, what do you think China does with this? What do you think our enemies do with this? We look like savages here. Savages, a totalitarian nation that has no respect for human life at all. So all of us as Americans are victims. The pro-police people, and I'm one of them, okay, we're now on the

defensive when we want good, strong policing to stop the horrendous national crime wave, we want that. It's going to be harder to get because the progressives who hate the cops who want no incarceration, no punishment for crimes, they gain. But I said, look at those police officers. Look at them. They killed an innocent man. All right. So all, everything that is good gets smashed here the nation's children particularly if you're an inner-city kid and and this is what you see they all saw it on the internet all the kids saw it I mean what are you gonna think you're an immature mind and it just goes on and on and on and on and here is the final point I have to

make that if these were white officers that killed Tyree, this country would be on fire right now. That's how fragile our social compact is. If they were white officers killing a young black man or any black, country erupts in riots, in flames, in looting, in violence, hundreds would die, billions in damage. You all know it. We're a step away from that.

A step away from it. This is so frustrating for me because I usually am a solution kind of guy. I usually can analyze the problem and give you a solution to that problem. That would work. But I can't give a solution to this problem because I don't know why these police officers did this. this when they destroyed their own lives. They committed symbolic suicide, all five of them. Why would you do that for a traffic stop? It's just inconceivable. But the danger to this republic, to this country, is off the chart. Because it's going to happen again. Inevitably, there are bad police officers.

irresponsible people who cannot control themselves who are mentally ill for one reason or another, they got the police badge. I don't know. There's no glib solution like better training or any, that's all both. When you hear that, you know the person saying it's a Charlottichet. All right. This is an anomaly. Does it not happen often. But now on videotape, when it is seen by people who hate this country and people who want to do damage gives them license so we live in a much different world

now I want the best training possible for every police officer in this country once you got a gun and a badge and you have power over other people including me I want you to be trained I want you to be a rational thinker I want you to be a problem solver

those cops were not solving any problem there okay but again they each have to be interviewed separately as to why did you participate in this and this the locals can't do it in memphis got to be governor lee bill lee in tennessee has got to form a task force of law enforcement people and psychiatrists and that to interview each one of these officers in prison, find out why did you do this? Why? And I don't know what they'll say. I assume they'll have excuses, but maybe not.

But we've got to get some kind of insight into the mind of a police officer who, in the wake of George Floyd, where everybody vividly remembers, would do the same thing to a defenseless You know, Tyree didn't have a gun, he didn't was an armed. I just, it, I love my country, all right? And I know how much this damages my country. Now, most of the analysis over the weekend was self-serving, and, you know, it made me mad. I had to turn most of it off. It was predictable.

It was foolish. It led nowhere. You can almost, when somebody comes on and I know who they are, I can predict what they're going to say. All right? They want a virtue signal or they want to make an excuse, whatever it may be. I know what they're going to do. But two sound bites caught my eye, and I'm going to run them both. They're totally different.

Go number one. The televised countdown to the release of the video that captured his demise further made sport of his death and devalued his life. It furthered the theater making of black people's pain, and it underscores America's perverse abandonment of the commitment to change it made after the death of George Floyd and the historic summer of protests that it begat. Okay, so that man Charles Blow, former New York Times guy.

I mean, he may be there. I don't read him. I don't listen to him. He hates his country. always has. I've had innings with this guy going way back. He just despises. I don't know why Bob is living here. You know, if I hated my country, I wouldn't live here. I'd go someplace else. But that is the intellectual. See, he's considered intellectual. So the America's perverse abandonment of the commitment to change after the death of George Floyd. America's, like we all

of abandoned any kind of fairness or responsibility by the police. I mean, it's just such a lie. It's just staggering. But this is what these people do at the New York Times and all of that. Second one was a law enforcement guy out here in Long Island, where I am. And then they tarnished the shield. They ruined the reputation of all the good men and women out there in law enforcement that work hard every single day and go out there and take.

the wrist. Okay, that was Pat Ryder, who is the Nassau County Police Commissioner. And these police officers did. All right, they tarnished the reputation of law enforcement. They didn't know they were doing that, I guess, when they were beating this man at death, but that's the consequence. Hey, it's Sean Spicer from the Sean Spicer Show podcast, reminding you to tune into my show every day to get your daily dose inside the world of politics. President Trump and his team are shaking up Washington like never before, and we're here to cover it from all sides, especially on the topics the mainstream media won't.

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No, I don't think you did. I do think that a lot of people have missed, Bill, this story, and this was a lack of institutional control at the Memphis Police Department that caused this. And let me explain a quick timeline for you. Several years ago, the Memphis City Council decided they were going to be on the forefront of defund the police movement. How they did that was by taking away the retirement benefits for fire and police. When that happened, it was a catastrophic event in Memphis because all of these senior members of the Memphis police force and the EMTs, and the fire department turned in their resignations for retirement.

They said, if you're not going to give us what we've been working so hard for and you're taking away our retirement benefits, we're going to instantly leave to a different place that is safer or pays us more money because you're literally stripping us of what you promised us. That is when this, in my opinion, basically that was what lit the match. So all of these people that had ties to the community, that were respected by the community that could talk to the different people in the different neighborhoods vanished then you had another thing that happened they wanted to defund the police

again and they decided that not a single law enforcement officer could live outside of shelby county now if you look at memphis on a map tennessee mississippi in arkansas i can literally drive in all three states bill in 15 minutes at the speed limit that's how close They all are. People live in Mississippi and work at FedEx. Thousands of them live in Mississippi and work in Memphis, tens of thousands. And that was their way, again, of defunding the police, getting rid of police officers. The citizens of Memphis were so outraged. They decided to get it on the ballot so that the citizens could vote, saying, we don't care where a police officer lives. We're down at that point, bill, 500 police officers that has now gone to 700 police officers. We are missing. That is the city's own study. And what they did was a city council said, no, screw you citizens. They took it off the ballot and said, you cannot hire a police officer that doesn't live inside of Shelby County. When that happened, you have a bunch of young cops now, just like this, this Scorpion group, two years, three years, four years of service, without having enough captains to even look over them. When they And new police chief, C.J. Davis, who I think did an excellent job with this. She came in the city. The first thing she said was, I desperately need senior law enforcement officials to mentor and to oversee a extremely young police force because all of my good

guys have been here that were invested in the community that looked here. They've all retired. I think we got it. That is how this happened. So the structure of policing breaks down in Memphis, and you can see the crime stats. right through the roof most one of the most dangerous things in America Bill the worst for violent crime the worst I've been shot at in Memphis okay but still

these guys these officers three with college degrees had to know that they were ruining their own lives I don't think they did and this is where I will disagree with you and I'll explain why the crime in Memphis is so out of control and I'm a victim of a gun crime and I grew up in a law enforcement family

I had to use a gun to save my own life. It was a gang initiation in Memphis, Tennessee, where two gang members tried to kill me on purpose. It was to get in the gang. They called having blood in the game. When you're dealing with a city that's out of control, where every single police officer, every day is on edge, and there are constant carjackings, there are constant seniors being beaten. Two weeks ago, Bill, we had a man that was accused of first-degree murderer that walked out of jail with zero. bail. No bail. He was accused in charge of killing a man first-degree murder, and he walked out. When I and others exposed at Memphis, they said, oh, the system got it wrong. We'll go

re-arrest him and have set a bail for him. These cops are on edge. As soon as there was a scuffle and he took off running, they're on heightened alert because this is now a war zone in Memphis. But he was unarmed, though. They knew he was. They knew he had no gun. because he didn't resist at first. They knew he didn't have a weapon. Couldn't agree with you more. And they beat the living daylights. No, they murdered him anyway.

They murdered him. Right. But wait, wait, wait, but wait, Ben. Look, you can be inexperienced. You can have no supervision. You can be on edge because the crime is out of control. All of that. But when it comes down to self-preservation, you'd go wild?

you put your own life and family in jeopardy, that's the team. And I think this is what has happened when you have, when you have, I call it lack of institutional control. You've lost control from a leadership perspective, and it's the Wild West. And they don't think about the repercussions for their actions, and they didn't think that that camera on that pole,

on that street corner was actually watching them. And thank the Lord it was there. And thank the Lord. Irie Nichols' mother continuously said of the community, do not loot, do not riot. I believe that she's a saint. I believe she's an angel. She single-handedly kept my city, I truly believe, from burning down, and having it turn into total anarchy because she kept saying that over and over again for her son's legacy.

But if we want to fix this problem, you mentioned this in your monologue about, I usually am a guy that wants to have, you know, resolution and come up with a way to fix it. You fix this by actually being honest, and the police and the city council and the worthless mayor of Memphis, who continues to play into the anti-police propaganda, defund the police, no bail, prison reform. He's a Soros DA. We just got there, Steve Mulroy. When you keep playing with fire and you continue to have a lack of institutional control of your police department, this will happen again because you need. actual police officers with experience overseeing the young guys and training them up and we don't have that. I don't think this is going to happen again, but I think that the state of Tennessee

has to take over the policing in Memphis. Well, and the city council will never let them because they want to take away the police. The governor has the authority declare a state of emergency in Memphis to just obliterate the city council.

And that's what has to happen. Hey, Ben, we really appreciate your perspective. I don't think our viewers and listeners will get that anywhere else, and I really appreciate you coming on tonight. Good to see it, man. God bless his family. Here is President Biden's statement on Friday night when the tape was released. The footage was released this evening and will leave people justifiably outraged. Those who seek justice should not resort to violence or destruction. Violence is never acceptable. It's illegal and destructive. I joined Mr. Nichols' family and calling for peaceful protests. Okay, that's a good statement.

whether Biden will continue on that road. I have no idea. I don't think he's a man in full control of what he is saying or doing. All right, his schedule today, Biden's. He goes to Baltimore to talk about the infrastructure bill, and, you know, that's what he does now. He's in re-election mode, even though I don't think he's going to run. But that is much easier. It's much easy to give these speeches, particularly when you don't tell the truth, then actually govern the nation. So that's what he's doing. He's running around twice a week giving speeches about what he's done, which is really not much, rather than trying to solve any problems. So let's segue into a speech in Springfield, Virginia last week. Now, CNN did this. CNN fact-checked

Joe Biden, which shows you that the new management there is trying to get away from the propagandistic network. It's been for the last six or seven years, okay? So I give the CNN credit. I'm going to give you three. I got ten false statements that Biden made in one speech. Roll number one. Last year, we funded 700,000 major construction projects.

700,000 all across America. from highways to airports to bridges to tunnels to broadband by the end of this year that's going to be more than 20,000 projects big and small cities east west north and south all part of it okay so 700,000 last year were funded want to know what the real figure is 7,000. So he was 693,000 light. Now, anybody in the audience wouldn't know that, who would know that? Biden doesn't know what he's talking about.

He just doesn't know what he's saying. 700,000 fund it? No, 7,000. Sound by number two, go. Well, here's the deal. We put a cap, and it's now in effect. Now in effect, as of January 1, of 3, of 3,000. $2,000 a year on prescription drug costs for seniors, even if their drugs cost 10,000, 12,000

or 14 a year, as some cancer drugs do. They have paid no more than $2,000 a year. It was false. This is not true. That cap kicks in in 2025. So he says, we put a cap. It's now in effect, now in effect. It's not. Not. It's just, you sit there, he's like, it's so insulting to the American people. Sound by number three. Go. Back then, only 3.5 million people had even had their first vaccination because the other guy and the other team didn't think it mattered a whole lot.

Now, we have fully vaccinated 230 million Americans. Okay, so Trump didn't matter any care. And back down 3.5 million people, all right? He's citing January, 2021 when he came into office, there were 19 million people vaccinated when Biden took office. 19 million. He says 3.5 million. Again, this is just frightening.

Truth. It just doesn't matter. It's 1984, the book. okay double speak think Biden cares no Gallup poll just out one thousand eleven adults telephone what do you think is the most important problem facing America today government poor leadership number one 21 percent inflation 15 immigration 11 economy in general, 10, unifying the country, six, racism, five, poverty, five, crime violence, four, ethical, moral family decline, four. So by far, the government and poor leadership is

the biggest problem, according to Scallop poll. It's a story that you'll hear nowhere else. I don't think it got reported hardly, I didn't see, I think I saw it in a Wall Street Journal. U.S. killed another ISIS chief in Bilau, Sudani, and ten other ISIS in Somalia. There's Sudani. Okay, special forces raid, hills of Somalia, no U.S. casualties. And the reason I'm telling you this is that I'm happy the Biden administration has continued the campaign against the jihadists that we write about in killing the killers. So we brought you up killing and killers came out just before Biden's term. And Biden is doing what Trump did and to some extent what Obama did and on and on. This is definitely

necessary. So that happened last week. Good. China warning McCarthy not to visit Taiwan. Now that was the clickbait on the internet. China warning, Speaker of the House, Kevin McCarthy not to visit China. But that's not what China did. Okay? They didn't mention McCarthy. They just said that we urge certain individuals in the U.S. to earnestly abide by the one China principle. Now, McCarthy wants to go to Taiwan. You remember Pelosi went and the Chinese got very upset about it. That's what this is all about. Now, China's a threat to all of us. I wrote a column posted yesterday on bill o'Reilly.com called Hitler, Tojo, Putin, and Xi.

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Jews and not. Louis Farrakhan runs the nation of Islam now. Okay? So why would you have a street honoring a racist like Elijah Muhammad? Bye. Hey, I'm Caitlin Becker, the host of the New York Postcast, and I've got exactly what you need to start your weekdays. Every morning, I'll bring you the stories that matter,

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Killed them. So anything about these guys catches my eye. This day in history, January 30, 1948, Indian leader Mahatma Gandhi assassinated at age 17. Now Gandhi was a hero. Very similar to Martin Luther King, nonviolent. His campaigns led to the British withdrawal of India and Indian independence. That happened in 1947. Just one year later, some kook, Hindu shoots Gandhi debt, okay, a Hindu nationalist. And he was having. They caught him and his helpers and all that. But, you know, the good, they die young, as Dion once sang. If I happen again, he wasn't young, 78, but led to a violent death. And, you know, if you read about Gandhi, he was an amazing man, that's for sure.

And I don't use that word amazing like the kids use it. Okay, we got a good mail segment. and a final thought about the brand new killing book coming your way in the fall. We'll tell you all about it as we come back. Let's go to the mail. We got Anthony Makaro, Jupiter, Florida. Bill, you said Putin has to go. And you said Putin is basically crazy.

So don't you think he will use a nuke? As I explained and great to tell, Anthony, in order for Putin to launch a nuclear weapon, the military has to sign on to it, the Russian military. I doubt that will happen. Charles MacArthur, he sings on Hudson, New York. Just curious, Bill, you feel Putin has tons of money and you can't understand why it's to destroy the world and not be happy with wealth. Well, how about George Soros?

Well, Soros hasn't destroyed himself. Soros is a hero in the progressive precincts for trying to bring down traditional America. It's a big difference. Putin is a villain. Can't go anywhere. Soros, in many precincts, is a hero. Paula, Ukraine has the goods on Biden. This is the reason that he is helping that.

If he doesn't, they will expose him for the corruption that he has engaged in over the years. So, Paula, with all due respect, if you could just give me a little backup on that, what Ukraine has on Biden, you send it along how you know what they, you know. See, I would never say that unless I had something to back it up. And I'll report it if you got it. Patty Kegel, Cameron Park, California. I'm appalled with Biden's inflation and war on gas has done to our country. My husband and I live in Northern California.

We just got notice of price of our PG&E bill is going up. We can serve as best we can, but we can't cut anywhere else. It's California, though. It's, yeah, it's Biden and a crazy attack on fossil fuels, but California has ladened the energy industry out there with so many taxes and regulations. You guys pay 30, 40 percent more than the rest of the country. Ralph, conciergeist member, Ralph gets a direct access to me. I'm not in favor of suspending the gas tax. I've been in place for many years.

The infrastructure bill can disappear in a heartbeat. Once you take away the gas tax, it'd be hard to reinstate it. No, wouldn't. You suspend the gas tax as long as the infrastructure bill, 1.2 trillion, or is it 1.8 trillion? Yes, it's 1.8. The inflation bill is 1.2. I can't even keep track. And as long as that money is going for infrastructure, you don't need a gas tax. When the infrastructure money runs out, which will probably be next Wednesday, then you could put it back. Congress has to do all this. It's not hard.

Robert Mertz, Akworth, Georgia. I listen to you every night, Bill, get accurate fact-based reporting, and know we have a serious immigration issue. The drug smuggling crisis is beyond belief. I'd like to understand why we don't address the influence China has shipping is illegal drugs. China makes fentanyl. Ships it to Mexico. We can't stop that. Nothing we can do.

Can't interdict it. Can't stop it. It goes right to Mexico. They formulated into various narcotics or send the fentanyl on pill form or in the United States. That we can do something about. Jim, concierge, remember I love that you and Chris Cuomo do a weekly hit. It's informative and entertaining. I especially enjoy and respect your verb, wit, and communication skills.

I've done this a long time, Jim. If I don't have them by now, you should see me in the beginning in Scrant. Ooh, it's grim. And I'm impressed with both you and Cuomo Bill. As usually, you make well-reasoned points that are backed up by facts. Cuomo, he actually allows you to speak. He has to. Not that he wouldn't.

He probably would, but believe me, he has to. Patrick Dowd, Newport, Ritchie, Florida. I was surprised to hear you slam the Oscars tonight to a record five out of 20 Irish actors up for awards. I don't analyze the news by my ethnicity, Patrick. I'm happy the Irish people are getting recognized, but Irish actors have always been top of the chart. But there's no more Oscars. Nobody cares about it. Okay.

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