Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - TRUMP FOUND GUILTY as Trial Concludes, Mexico's Bloody Election Season, America's Dirtiest Cities, Ken Burns, & More

Episode Date: May 31, 2024

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Hey Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to the No Spin News Thursday, May 30th, 2020, for your country. And remember this day, very historical day, and not in a good way. So we're going to walk you through the Trump conviction, which may be overturned, all right, and how it happened, more than why it happened. I got to wait until the jurors start to talk before I can analyze what their point of view

is. Now, to set this up in a fair way, because this is fair, what we're going to do tonight, is fair. On others, if you watch television, listen to the radio, whatever, you're not going to get fair. going to get partisan. That's what you get. This is not going to be that. All right. So Donald Trump convicted 34 counts of falsifying business records. Low-level beef, not Watergate, not Monica Lewinsky in the White House, not the teapot dome scandal, okay, low-level beef. Did he do it? I don't know whether he did it or not. I mean, it's certainly possible, maybe probable, that they took the books in the Trump

organization, paid off Stormy Daniels, and gave the Inquirer guy some money or whatever. Absolutely possible. Did I see evidence beyond a reasonable doubt? No, but I wasn't in the courtroom, as the 12 jurors were. Should this case have been brought? No. particularly not for a president and who's running for re-election, Donald Trump. Shouldn't have been brought.

This is terrible for the country. I hope everybody understands that. There's nothing good about this, nothing. And I'll get to that in a little while. So when I heard the verdict of 34 guilty counts on falsifying business records, I wasn't surprised because this case in Manhattan was presented in a way that was very constricted to the defense. And we'll get, we have Brett Talman going to tell us what mistakes the judge made because that's important on appeal. And you know this is going to be appealed.

And Trump's not going to be put in jail. No, that's going to happen. All right, he'll be able to carry on. campaign. Perhaps the most important thing is something that's not going to be reported tonight, except by us. There is an NPR poll out that asked Americans, whatever happens in the Trump trial, and it just came out today this poll, will it influence your vote on Donald Trump? And the vast majority of Americans say no. And the ones that say yes, it was even, some said, I'm less likely to vote for, more likely, it was a total.

total wash, and this is NPR. I believe that's true. So I think Trump's poll numbers will go down in the next few weeks, but once summer kicks in, as I analyze this week, and people are paying a massive amount of money for food and restaurants and vacations and gas and everything else, this is going to be a distant memory come September. And there are no other trials that are going to come up before Election Day. All right. So let's begin. begin with Donald Trump himself. Go. This was a disgrace.

This was a rigged trial by a conflicted judge who was corrupt. It's a rigged trial, a disgrace. They wouldn't give us a venue change. We were at 5% or 6% in this district in this area. This was a rigged disgraceful trial. that the real verdict is going to be November 5th by the people, and they know what happened here, and everybody knows what happened here.

You have a sore respect, DA, and the whole thing. We didn't do a thing wrong. I'm a very innocent man, and it's okay. I'm fighting for our country. I'm fighting for our Constitution. Our whole country is being rigged right now. This was done by the Biden administration. in order to wound or hurt an opponent, a political opponent.

And I think it's just a disgrace. And we'll keep fighting. We'll fight till the end and we'll win. Because our country's gone to hell. We don't have the same country anymore. We have a divided mess. We're nation in decline, serious decline. Millions and millions of people pouring into our country right now

from prisons and from mental institutions, terrorists. And they're taking over our country. country. We have a country that's in big trouble, but this was a rigged decision right from day one with a conflicted judge who should have never been allowed to try this case, never. And we will fight for our Constitution. This is long from over. Thank you very much. Why should voters vote for everything to tell him? All right, that was 90 seconds. That was shorter than I thought. I mean, Trump, you know, usually is more loquacious than that. But what happens now is,

that Trump and his lawyers appeal. Now remember, New York state is different than the city. So they're going up and the appellate division probably won't overturn the verdict. But once they get into the highest court in New York, that's the court that overturned the Weinstein verdict. Because they said the trial wasn't fair, which is exactly what the Trump lawyers are gonna go for.

Just so you know the process. Now, I believe that Trump might be to get this if he loses in New York State in all courts into the federal system, but everybody's telling me I'm crazy to believe that. So I might be, I'm not a lawyer, but it looks to me like, you know, you can get in under a few statutes here, but be that as a man, I want to be too speculative, too much skepticism in our reporting here. Okay, so now the judge has to pronounce a sentence. And if it's draconian and it prevents Trump from campaigning, boom, it's going to go right to the Supreme Court. That's where it'll go. I don't think

Mark Chan wants to do that. But again, I'm guessing here. So what I assume will be, Trump will be released after Marchan pronounces whatever sentence he pronounces. Remember, beefs. Okay. And then he's free on appeal, to what usually happens, 90% of the time, unless you're a dangerous criminal and run around knifing people. And there in New York City, you'll be let out. But okay, so what should Americans think about this? Here's what I think about it, not as a journalist or historian. I'll get to that in a moment. I'm, really disturbed about the level of hatred that is rising in america so when you have more than 70 million people voting for donald trump in 2020 what is 70 million not many of those people

are going to be very happy with this and they're going to start to blame okay the seen the godfather where don corleone sitting around a table with all the other mafioso and he goes if lightning should hit my youngest son, I'm going to hold some of the people in this room accountable. Okay? There's that vengeance in the air. It's in the air. This isn't Obama Romney, Obama McCain. This is not. I was in the middle of those campaigns. This is rank hatred on both sides. And that's going to grow, and that's bad for the country. Let's face it, the U.S. economy is under stress. National debt rising, trade war, shaking the markets. And meanwhile, China is dumping the dollar and stockpiling gold. That's why I protected my savings with physical gold and silver

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Roll tape. Let's bring in a guy who's much smarter than me on this, and I hate to admit that. A man who looks exactly like U.S. Grant. Okay, there he is. Brett Tallman, former U.S. attorney for Utah, coming to us from Salt Lake City. You know, I think Grant, and you, you guys are kind of simpatico with the beard and things like that, very good. And the horses, yeah. So I want to know the biggest mistake Judge Mar Chan made in this trial, in your opinion, because the judge's mistakes are going to lead the appeal process, correct?

Yes, absolutely. I would say in this order, first, he forgot one of the most important rules of evidence, Rule 403, which a judge is supposed to use to determine what comes into evidence and what doesn't. And it expressly says nothing unfairly prejudicial to the defendant or irrelevant to the defendant. the entire testimony of, you know, most of the testimony of Stormy Daniels, most of the testimony of Cohen would have been thrown out by, I would say, 99% of the judges under Rule 403. The other thing that I would say, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Why would it have been thrown out by most judges when it were talking about what? What wasn't relevant?

So all of the details of the sexual encounter with Stormy Danes, Daniels, highly prejudicial, irrelevant to what the elements of the counts were that the government had to prove. They merely, they could have taken a high road on this, but I think they did want to take body shots to Trump and show him as an undesirable human being. Right, and that hasn't been proven. That's still an alleged encounter. And the judge let it in, and it didn't really go to the crimes that were charged. Okay. And then next, what else did Marchand do that could lead to a successful appeal for Trump? There is a rule that judges follow to err on the side of allowing the defendant to put on the case that they want to put on. So what that means is they give them far more latitude when it comes to cross-examination.

They give them far more latitude to presentation of their own witnesses and the evidence they want to. bring in you don't see typically bill a judge that is sustaining objections before the question is even asked on an examination of the defense's witnesses like they like they did um you don't see them limiting the witnesses like like the judge did that was a very big issue that they wouldn't let in an individual that's very familiar with with federal election law to indicate whether or not the statute would cover even the allegations that are being raised in this case. And that should have been allowed, and most judges would have, because they don't want to be reversed on appeals.

So there you go. No motion in that analysis is the way we want it. Sentencing, by the way, is July 11th. Okay, so it's a good distance away. It shows you that there's no urgency on the part of the New York City authorities. I mean, this isn't a heinous crime. And that's what it shows you. Sentencing could be tomorrow.

Now, in the meantime, what's going to happen, Marchand is going to be calling every judge in the state going, you know, what could I? Like that. It's C.Y.A for him. Cover your, you know what. Now, what should happen in this country? What is the best thing for the United States of America?

I wrote a message of the day on bill o'Reilly.com, and I really hope you go every morning. and read it. It's not complicated. Tomorrow, President Joe Biden, who will return to the White House for the first time this week to see the Kansas City Chiefs, okay, before he sees the football team, Super Bowl winners, he should pardon Donald Trump of any and all crimes. Okay? And then the next day, Saturday, he can pardon Hunter Biden. And he can say, in both cases, enough. All of this is not helping our republic.

This elevates Biden. It puts him into Gerald Ford category. You remember, Ford pardon Nixon for Watergate crimes, which were a thousand times. worse than falsifying business records. And so were this, the Clinton situation on Lewinsky, was much worse. The breach, that whole thing, the lying to the American people about it, much worse than falsifying business records. And I'm sure you would agree. If you don't, bill at bill o'Reilly.com, let me know. But come on. And when you read Confronting the presidents

and see what our past chief executives did. It's something is minuscule. So Biden should say, enough. If Biden did that, he might very well win in November. Because people would go, whoa, he's putting the country above himself. Yes, he's got a motive with Hunter, okay, but we all know what Hunter did. We all know there's no subterfuge about Hunter Biden in the gun charge and the other stuff. Okay, now the money thing, that gets a little bit more dicey there, but he's not charged there yet.

So, Biden will not do my suggestion, which, by the way, I haven't seen anywhere else in this country. I'm bragging, but that's why you watch and listen to me. He should issue a blanket pardon on Donald Trump tomorrow and a selected pardon on Hunter Biden on Saturday. Then that takes away a lot of the animus from the debate in June. Because Biden's going to march in there having done Trump a favor. Whether Trump knows it or not, I don't know. And if Trump goes at Biden, you can make a joke out of it.

Say, well, you know, try to do something nice. You know how you do it. But Biden will never do it. And the reason is he doesn't put his country first. He doesn't. He puts himself first. You can make that argument about Donald Trump too. You can make it.

But can you imagine if tomorrow, Biden said, enough of this. I don't want Americans hating each other. Because there may be violence, could be. I know when Robert De Niro went out there, De Niro wanted to punch somebody's lights out and vice versa. And now, with this Trump conviction, the MAGA people, the most of the 70 million people voted for Trump,

they believe this whole thing is BS, just as Trump said. they firmly believe it. I believe it, and I'm not a MAGA person. This case would have not been brought in 45 out of the 50 states. It wouldn't have happened. The feds declined. They could have brought it. This is such a miscarriage of justice, but we don't have justice anymore in America,

particularly in New York State, because I live here. I know. There is no justice in this state. None. Contracts don't matter. Ideology rules the bench. It's who you are and out what you did. It's crazy. Poor people have no chance. If you're attacked by somebody and accused by somebody, you better have hundreds of thousands of dollars to defend yourself. Because if you don't, you're not even getting a lawyer. That's how it is in New York State. So we got a lot of problems in this country. And this thing in Manhattan, and just for a second, think about Putin, Xi, the Mullahs in Tehran, Hamas, think about them all. They just laughing at us. Falsifying business records? Putin's stolen hundreds

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So I know Biden's not going to do it. If he did, I would gain a measure of respect for him, even though he's his second worst president in history, next to James Buchanan. I would. If he did it, just like Ford. Ford put his whole presidential campaign on the line by pardoning Nixon. But it was the right thing to do to stop the madness that emanated out of the Vietnam War in Watergate. and Ford was a hero for doing it, as you'll see, in confronting the presidents. But Biden, I'd be shocked. Shocked.

Now, he better be careful, Biden, because he's got to make a statement about this or says he's going to, using the White House as a backdrop. You've got to be careful. Okay, because the appeal process is still in place. This can be reversed totally on appeal, and Trump will. would be then not guilty. Keep that in mind. I've got to be careful. But Biden, it's a whole different world there. Again, I covered Romney and Obama. I covered McCain and Obama. It wasn't this kind of hatred.

On both part, they hate each other. I'd be surprised if there's a handshake on that debate coming up in June. Probably will be. Boy, they loat with each other. Anyway, summing up, The verdict is a verdict. Nothing anybody can do about it. Trump lawyers will appeal sentencing July 11th. Marchant probably not going to do anything outrageous in the sentencing because that would make the appeal easier and give the Trump lawyers an avenue to go to the feds if he does something, you know, obviously vindictive to keep Donald Trump off the campaign trail. Because that is basically interfering in our electoral process, our democratic process. I want to hear from you. I'm going to be on News Nation tonight with Cuomo.

Today, you can watch that, but I want to hear from you. Bill at Bill O'Reilly.com. Bill at Bill O'Reilly.com. Name in town, so I know you're a real person. I think that we just delivered the best analysis that you will hear. But if somebody's better, you let me know. I'll check it out.

All right. Let's continue down with the President's schedule. Nothing today. It was the anniversary of the nine-year anniversary of his son Bo Biden's death from cancer. So he stayed in Delaware. Tomorrow he goes a White House and meets with the Kansas City Chiefs, which should be amusing because the kicker Harrison Butker gave a graduation speech where he touted traditional values, which sent the progressive left into connipions. So that'll be the main story about the Kansas City Chiefs.

And I was just handed to me that the prime minister of Belgium is going to be at the White House on Friday, too. I don't think he has anything to do with the Kansas City Chiefs, but you never know. So Biden, another light week. But Jill Biden, Dr. Jill Biden, taking on more of a high profile in the campaign and first campaign stopped for any Democrat, is the ABC News program, The View. Go.

Joe has been traveling as much as he's as possible, and we're not going to take anything for granted. And those polls are going to turn, I'm confident of it, because as time goes, on and as people start to focus a little bit more about what's at stake and start to become educated on the issues and the differences between the two men, I believe that Americans are going to choose good over evil. Well, number one, with all due respect, most Americans are pretty focused on this now. And number two, good over evil. Pretty subjective. objective. So if I were on the panel of the view, number one, I get higher ratings. Number two, ABC News, never hire me, even though it did in the past as a correspondent, never now. I would say to

Dr. Jill, well, that's interesting you use the word good over evil, because your husband and you are against any limits. for partial birth abortion. You don't want any limits, nothing. So theoretically, and it happens, but not much, but it happens, two hours before a baby is supposed to be birthed, the mother can say, I don't want it. My boyfriend left.

I don't think I'll be a good mom. I don't want it. So then a doctor would go in with forceps, And baby is fully formed, breathe on its own in two hours, and cut the baby up, causing enormous pain. And Jill and Joe Biden, okay with that. And that's the truth. This is no propaganda. They're okay with it.

Now, if that doesn't fall into the evil category, nothing does. Bill at Bill O'Reilly.com. You want to challenge me on it? Here I am. But I would have absolutely said that on that panel. Can you imagine if I said that on national TV to the First Lady? But it's absolutely true. Mexico, not a friend.

They are not our amicos. No, there is a problem. Sunday, they're going to have election. A woman named Claudia Shinebaum, Jewish lady, is going to be the new president. She is a protege of Obradur, whose term limit out. Obrador is 70. Now, Obrador sold out to the drug cartels. That's what he did.

And he allowed millions of more nationals, non-Mexicans, go through his country illegally, up to the southern border and enter the USA illegally. That's what he allowed. Tons of narcotics went along with the human trafficking, because the cartels control both. That's what Mexico has been doing. for the last four years, and beyond that as well. But Trump neutralized them by threats.

So they are not our friends down there, and Ms. Shinebaum is not going to change any of that. I know you're not following it, but it's my job to follow it. Here is the campaign. There have been 31 killings of political candidates in Mexico this year. They're just gunning them down because they're not just a presidential election. It's all election across the board. So cartels just killed him.

We don't like him. Bang, he's dead. 560 violent incidents in his campaign down in Mexico. Do you know that? Yeah. Not our friend. Okay? That happened Sunday, that election.

Border latest, Majorcas, Alessandro. All right? Homeland Security Secretary. the worst bureaucrat in the Biden administration and boy that's saying he beats out Buttigieg. He's worse

than Buttigieg. Here's Alejandro's latest. We have done an extraordinary job to deal with an unprecedented level of migration Camillo. The reality is that some people do

indeed try to game the system. That does not speak to everyone whom we encounter, but there is an element of it, and we deal with it accordingly. They deal with it by just letting the people in and not watching them. That's how they deal with it. So Alejandro says they've done an extraordinary job. Is there anybody in the country? It may be the panel of the view. I don't know. The things that the border, Homeland Security, has done an extraordinary job down there. Oh, and there are some people.

They're trying to game the system, but just a few. My God. America's dirtiest city. What do you think it is? Not New York. New York's pretty dirty. Not L.A. L.A. in places.

What do you think the dirtiest city is? Houston. All right, this comes from Lawn Starter, a website, who studied all the cities with this criteria. Pollution, living conditions. living conditions, infrastructure, consumer satisfaction. Here are the dirtiest cities. Houston, Newark, New Jersey, San Bernardino, California, Detroit, Jersey City,

Bakersfield, San Antonio, Fresno, Oklahoma City, and Yonkers, New York just north of Manhattan. Okay, I don't really have much to say. I'm surprised about San Antonio, that Riverwalk area in the Alamo. I was dying. It was fine, but those are the dirtiest cities. What are the best places to raise a family in the USA? Well, this is from Wallet Hub. Wallet Hub pretty good. Okay? And these are the criteria. Family fun, that's important. Health and safety, education, affordability, socioeconomic. No one knows what that is. Here are the top ten cities for racing families. Here they are. Fremont, California. That's in the Bay Area.

Overland Park, Kansas. That's KC. Irvine, California, Orange County. Plano, Texas, north of Dallas, Seattle, Gilbert, Arizona. I got to check Gilbert out. San Jose, San Diego, Boise, Idaho. Huntington Beach surfs up in Huntington Beach. Now, of all those cities, if I had to live in one of them, I'd live. live in San Diego. Best weather in the country. Smart life. Ordering food to go. So this is a new thing that Americans have embraced. Here are the stats. Ordering takeout or delivery up 43% in the last few years,

according to American Diner Report, 43%. So Americans are just ordering food they don't want to cook and uh either get it delivered to you or you go to the restaurant pick it up okay so 30 percent order over the phone i order over the phone 24 percent order through a website and the rest of them use apps or whatever maybe they send out a kite i don't know what they're doing parry or pigeon so um 30 percent pick up 26 percent drive through 24% get it delivered, 19% walk into the restaurant. So that doesn't really count.

So here's smart life tip. So the other day I ordered from Panera bread. I like their soups and the sandwich is pretty good. And you go in, you order, and you wait, and they make the stuff up. Okay, so they give me the bag, and I didn't check the bag. And they didn't put the tuna sandwich in the bag. They put in another sandwich in the soup, but not the tuna sandwich. They own me.

Panera bread owns me a tuna sandwich. Believe me, I'm going to go and ask for that tuna sandwich. And I'll report back to you or what they say. I couldn't get there that quick. It's not that near my house. But I got stiff because I didn't look inside the bag. That's smart life tip number one. Look when somebody hands you a bag to see if you got what you got.

Smart Life tip number two, when you are calling the restaurant. You're not dealing with a PhD on the other end of the line. Now a lot of my kids, you know, just trying to make a living and I admire that. It's trying to sum a job, whatever it may be. After and speak very slowly, after you give the order to the person on the other end of the phone, have them read it back to you. Okay? Check the bag.

Have them read it back. Smart life. ordering food. Okay, what else do we have for you? New York City, some of Sam. 1976. The psychopath merited six people, wounded seven. He targeted young people, terrorized the city. The city was in panic, New York City, arrested August 10th, 1977. So he got away with it for about a year. Okay? They caught him. And he sent him, to 25 to life. They turned his parole down last week. Okay, he's 70 years old. He's in upstate New York, state prison up there, okay? I don't think he's ever getting out. He says he's found

God, he's now a new Christian or whatever. Okay, that's good. He calls himself Son of Hope. Well, I got a hope here that you never get out of prison. There's no reason to let you out. None. Stay in history, May 30th, 1806. 218 years ago today, Andrew Jackson, shot and killed a man. Talk about running for president with something on your resume. So Jackson, he wasn't a president yet, he kills Charles Dickinson in a duel, what happened. So Jackson and Dickinson were horse breeders, and they hated each other.

And Dickinson was a big mouth, and he accused Jackson of reneging on a horse bet, called Jackson a coward, and a equivocator. Uh-oh, equivocated, a big word. But then he insulted Jackson's wife, Rachel, calling her a bigamist. So Andrew said, hey, outside guns. They duel in Kentucky, where they both had horse raising concerns. So Dickinson gets off the first shot, hits Jackson, in a chief. chest. Now, that's supposed to end the duel. Because Jackson's gone misfired. You're supposed to get only one shot back then in 1806. Jackson recocks, boom, shoots Dickinson dead.

Okay. So historians then say, hey, Jackson shot a whole bunch of people in doing it. That's not true. And you'll read about that in confronting the presidents. Jackson had duels, but most of those duels were settled before any shots were filed, okay? So Jackson, for the rest of his life, had a bullet in his chest. They couldn't remove it. It caused him a lot of grief. So that happened 218 years ago today. So yesterday on No Spin News, we did a thing on Ken Burns blasting Trump in a commencement address, and I said we're going to invite him on a program. We did, and I'll tell you what happened, in a final thought, in a moment. Okay, so yesterday we had a story about the documentarian, Ken Burns.

I know him personally. I think a very talented man, given a commencement address at the left-wing college Brandeis in Boston. Go. All right, I'd like to debate Ken Burns. We're going to call him and try to get him on next week. He won't come on because he knows this is gibberish. Okay, so that's what I said, and his address to the college students.

was, look, Trump is so bad, it's terrible, you can't even consider them, there's no comparison, Biden's the greatest guy. Okay. And that's fine. Brandeis knew what they were getting when they invited Ken Burns. But I'd like to, as two historians, I'd like to kick it around with Ken. Okay, or you said this, and what's your backup for it, and I see it differently, and here's my backup. Wouldn't that be good? Well, there's no way Ken Burns. at age 80, okay, is going to come up against me. He's just not going to do it. But not only Ken Burns, I'm picking on him, and he deserves it, okay?

But none of these people, not the Nero, George Clooney, none of these people, but when you say, let's kick it around, let's back it up, let's see what you got. No way. not doing it because we live in a society that is largely unaccountable for what it says and does this is different than when we used to be okay when i was growing up in levittown if you said something bad about somebody that was a big deal and you had to back it up or there were fisticuffs okay it was Andrew jackson time all right but there was always oh how do you know that what are you saying that for give me the proof okay

there was that and it was taken seriously. Now it's not. You can say anything you want. And then you'd walk away. And no. No, I submit to you that everything I say, all right, is number one true. I mean, some of my predictions, you know, aren't 100%, but most of them are. But if somebody says, hey, O'Reilly, come on and debate it, look at Chris Cuomo. all right i'm standing by for news nation by the way on the trump verdict as soon as it comes in i'll be on news nation and i'm probably with quomo could be somebody else but anybody invites me on and unless i think that they're ridiculous you know dishonest people and i'm certainly not that and burns knows that okay i'll go on i'll make my case come on this is why i believe what i want to believe

okay I just don't do it but Burns wouldn't come on we tried and they weren't rude when they turned us down I said oh we appreciate the invite but unfortunately Ken's schedule

is full at this point I'm sure everybody wants Ken I know okay we are on as I said trial watch anything happens

Bill O'Reilly.com is your place. I'm up all night on it. It's not going to happen during the night, but we're working it. Okay? Thank you for watching and listening to the no-spin news. See you tomorrow.