Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - Trump Pushes for Kate’s Law, Presidential Powers and the Constitution, Rebecca Rose Woodland on the Insurrection Act & Karine Jean-Pierre Remains Defensive Over Biden
Episode Date: October 22, 2025Hey BillOReilly.com Premium and Concierge Members, welcome to the No Spin News for Tuesday, October 21, 2025. Stand Up for Your Country. A look at President Trump’s request for Congress to pas...s Kate’s Law, and his mention of Bill. Talking Points Memo: Bill presents the truth about the Constitution, emphasizing that the President has broad powers to combat insurrection. New York attorney Rebecca Rose Woodland joins the No Spin News to discuss the Insurrection Act and whether President Trump has the authority to define what constitutes an insurrection. It’s Day 21 of the government shutdown, and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D‑NY) has become the Democrats’ spokesperson. Former White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre continues to defend Joe Biden's mental state. Final Thought: Bill shares a personal letter he received from President Trump. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Transcript
Discussion (0)
Another crazy day in a lifetime of crazy days.
But I'm glad I'm here for the no-spin news on Tuesday, October 21, 2025, stand up for your country.
Now earlier today, President Trump addressed Republican senators at the White House.
House. And he goes all over the place and talks in a stream of conscience way. The press, of
course, records all of this. So he got around to Kate's law. You remember that Kate Stanley was
killed by a undocumented migrant who had been deported five times. And I made a big, big deal
out of that. Well, here's what the president said today. Go. I hope you guys can pass it.
And basically, very simply, it says that if you're an illegal alien and you come in and you get thrown out, if you come back and get caught, you have to spend 10 years in jail.
Very simple. Very simple. If they would have had that, Kate Steinley would be alive today.
That was a big event at the time. If you remember, Bill O'Reilly, for those of you that like Bill, I think I like Bill, but he was the one he was, he devoted his life to that law trying to get it passed.
And we have posted the president's full statement on case law on Bill O'Reilly.com.
Now, I did talk to the president about, I don't know, two months ago, I handed him a folder of the law, which I wrote back when I was doing the O'Reilly Factor, and Mitch McConnell killed it.
I would not put the law up for a vote in the Senate.
I will mention Senator Ted Cruz was a champion.
of this as well, and he deserves credit. I think Kate's law is not going to get passed,
but if it had gotten passed years ago, 10 years ago, something like that, thousands of lives,
thousands of lives would have been saved. And Senator McConnell is going to have to take that
legacy. He's through, and I'm happy about that. But that was one of the worst mistakes that I've
ever seen any senator to make when he refused to put Kate's law up for a vote stand alone,
because it would have passed.
So we are very happy that this happened today in the Rose Garden.
You know that I have respect for President Trump.
I speak with him.
He responds to what I believe is just causes.
You may not like his style.
That's fine.
I'm not in the business to prop the president up.
I am in the business of telling you the truth.
Okay.
So I hope this Kate's law comes to fruition.
I think it will.
And it will save another, you know, what, 5,000 lives?
Once these criminal aliens are deported, they come back 10 years.
They're gone.
It's big.
It's heavy.
and it should happen. Now, the president also sent me a letter, and I will have that for you
in the final thought today. The Talking Points memo is about Mr. Trump and the Constitution.
I'm going to go over this very methodically. If you have a pen and paper, you might write some
of this stuff down, because I am sick and tired of the nonsense that's going on in this country.
the absolute fraud in presenting the facts of the Constitution as it pertains to the we, the people.
All right, here we go.
So the President of the United States has the power to combat insurrection and to protect Americans from harm.
In fact, that's his primary duty.
The President's primary duty is not to bring down food prices or to have global.
warming funds it's to protect Americans from immediate danger okay number one the
definition of insurrection is an act of revolting against civil authority or
established government that's an insurrection of your revolting if you're
burning down federal buildings if you're trying to kill ice agents that's an
insurrection okay there is an act the insurrection
Act passed by Congress, signed by the President, 10 U.S.C. 251.255.
Quote, whatever the president considers the unlawful obstructions, combinations, or assemblages,
or rebellion against the authority of the United States make it impractable to enforce the
laws of the United States in any state by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings.
He may call in federal service such of the militia of any mistake.
and use such of the armed forces as he considers necessary to enforce those laws or suppress the rebellion.
To enforce those laws is the key here.
Okay?
So these judges who are blocking Donald Trump from sending guard to Portland, Oregon, to L.A., to Chicago,
So, they are operating outside the Constitution, these federal judges.
They don't care about the Constitution.
They're ruling in a political way.
There's the proof.
If you don't want to see it, people believe what they want to believe.
Okay, my job is to tell you what the truth is.
So, let's go to Oregon.
Oregon, for the past five months, has been under siege by anarchists in Portland, the largest city.
They're trying to destroy ICE headquarters.
There are threatening ICE agents, and this has been going on almost every day.
And you're telling me that the president doesn't have the power to protect federal property and his agents?
Come on.
That's ridiculous.
right? And that is why the appeals court in San Francisco ruled yesterday that President
Kensington in the court. Now, the radicals who don't want any of that are saying, well,
we want another hearing and they'll get it and that's fine. That's fine. Right up to the
Supreme Court, that's where I wanted to go. Write it down. Okay. So Portland is a slam bump. How about
Chicago. Well, it is obvious that the local authorities, the police in Chicago, aren't going to
protect ICE agents or federal property. That is obvious. I can prove it. And I have gone over
this before, but it's worth mentioning again.
Hey there, it's your buddy, Craig Carton. And if you're like me, you could use a timeout from
the chaotic news cycle, a pause from the politics, a break from the bedlam. I'm inviting
you to join me every day on the Craig Carton Show podcast, where we
tackle the biggest sporting events of the day and give honest hot takes on and off the field.
Sports talk should be fresh, informative, and fun, and that's what we deliver every single
day.
So give your ears a much-needed vacation.
It's time to tune out the noise and take a break from the non-stop news cycle.
Subscribe now to the Craig Carton Show podcast, available on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, music,
or wherever you get your podcast.
Hey, Mike Baker here, host of the President's Daily Brief Podcast.
If you want straight talk on national security, foreign policy, and the biggest global stories going on of the day, this is the show for you.
We publish twice a day, Monday through Friday, once in the morning, again in the afternoon, and on the weekend, we go longer with the PDB's Situation Report, with excellent guests, including national security insiders and foreign policy experts.
Check us out on Spotify, Apple, or wherever you get your podcasts. Also, on our YouTube channel, at President,
Daily Brief.
So you will remember that on October 4th of this, you know, in October now,
there was a big confrontation in Chicago between radicals and ICE agents.
It was a woman with a gun in her car who tried to ram ICE agents that could kill them, of
course. The ICE agent shot the woman. She went to the hospital, she's all right, and then was
released by a judge despite the federal government asking that this woman be detained until
her trial hearing. No, let her out. Okay? Her name is Merrimar Martinez. She's pled
not guilty, but she's guilty as hell. Okay? Everybody
knows she's guilty, including Merrimar.
Judge, he goes, no, even though the federal government,
even though I try to kill ICE agents with your car,
I'm letting you out.
No.
No, that's supporting an insurrection.
All right.
So, just that alone.
But then we have a recording,
because when all this happened,
the Chicago police were informed.
Somebody called 911.
and units were on their way to see what was happening regarding the ICE agents and the demonstrators.
And this is what the police units were told when they were driving toward the scene of the crime.
Go.
And again, per the Chief of Patrol, we have all the units that, per 999, Chief of Patrol said all units clear out from there.
sending anybody over to that location.
62, we're going to clear out as soon as we can, Spide.
We're, like, blocked in over here, so we're going to do the best we can to get out of here as soon as we can.
So, the local Chicago authorities will not protect federal ICE agents.
Period.
There's no other side to the story.
And that order was given by the Chief of Patrol of Chicago, John Hyde.
If you're a president, you have to send in those authorities.
You have to do it.
You can't allow this kind of anarchy in danger.
So this will happen in Chicago, the Guard.
Guard will happen in Portland.
Now, the Guard is a unit that cannot arrest you because that's the Posse Comitatis Act,
but it can detain, hold you until the local authorities come.
Now, if the local authorities want to arrest you, the U.S. Marshals will.
Because the marshals are going to accompany the guard into Chicago and Portland.
Because you can't trust the local authorities in Portland or in Chicago.
Can't trust them.
They're not going to enforce federal law.
That goes back to the Constitution.
That's why the Founding Fathers put it in there, because they knew there may be rogue states.
And there are now.
There's no question about that.
So President Trump is going to win all of these cases.
And the Supreme Court has never, I mean, the three leftist Supreme Court justices, they don't care.
But the other six were going to support the president.
And I'll just give you one more.
In 2013, the New Orleans Police Department, the entire police department was taken over by the federal government.
The entire police department.
Okay.
And that was under Barack Obama.
Obama ordered that. Why? Because the citizens living in New Orleans were not being protected
by the police from violent crime. The cops weren't protecting the people. They just weren't
doing it. That order is still in play for you people living down in New Orleans. Twelve
years later, it's still there. And there are federal overseers of the New Orleans Police Department.
Barack Obama. And that's the memo. One more thing before I get to a guest. It is true that the National Guard,
as we saw in D.C. will be a restraining force against criminals. But the criminals are not going to
come out to Pioneer Square in Portland, Oregon if the Guard's standing there. The dope dealers aren't
going to come out. The gangs on a south side of Chicago aren't coming out armed to the teeth
if the guard is there. So yes, that is an unintended good consequence of these orders, and President
Trump knows it. We want to be fair and honest here. And joining us now of New York City is Rebecca
Rose Woodland. She is a power house attorney in New York and knows the Constitution very well.
and we're pleased to have her back.
All right, may I'm making any mistakes here, Counselor?
You are absolutely not making any mistakes.
You're almost understating the fact that the president under the Insurrection Act
has the right to determine, and I'm going to state, determine and define
what insurrection, rebellion, and domestic violence is.
He is the deciding factor.
No one else.
Okay.
So you and I agree.
If the president is determined, all right, you and I agree and so does most, so in most
of the people watching all around the world today.
We agree that the president has the authority, but judge after judge after judge after judge
after judge try to block presidential authority in this matter.
Why do you think that is?
Well, this is all political.
I mean, these people are standing on weak political.
grounds. These are Democrats that want to oppose the president any way they can. Legal,
unlegal, lawful, unlawful. This is unlawful. They're just clogging the courts with useless,
useless cases. Taxpayer money is being spent. The Department of Justice is having to spend time
opposing these motions. When the Department of Justice, and Attorney General Bondi,
cash Patel from the FBI, should we work, should be working on
other issues that are facing this country, the incredible drug trade coming in that they're trying
to prevent and halt. But no, they're wasting time. The president has the absolute authority.
The Supreme Court said in the 1800s, the president had the authority and the right to define
what insurrection is. And if the president sees an insurrection, he can go in with the guard
to quell it and to organize it for then the troops and the other, you know, criminal law force, law enforcement
authorities to come in and then, as you said, effectuate arrests.
Okay.
This has been since the 1800.
This is nothing new.
But just for, as a historical aside, that was done, all of those things were done, because after the Civil War and the Union's victory,
A lot of people in the South weren't going to obey.
They were just going to persecute the blacks and keep them down and hurt them and hang them.
And so the federal government had to intervene.
And then U.S. Grant had to go in and destroy the Klan, not with militia, not with National Guard, with troops.
But then we see all throughout history in the 50s with Eisenhower, and the 60s with Kennedy.
So there is no doubt about the fact that the president,
the United States. It could be anybody. Barack Obama took over the New Orleans Police Department
has the power to do this. But it's morphed. And I want to get your personal opinion on this.
We, you and me are correct. And the Supreme Court is going to rule in President Trump's favor.
And the quicker it gets there, the better to put this all to bet.
I'm Piers Morgan, the host of the Piers Morgan Uncensored Podcast.
We do big interviews. And we do big interviews.
big debates about whatever's getting people talking. We make news, we make noise, and we make a little
bit of trouble too. Come and see what all the fuss is about. You can listen to Piers Morgan Uncensored
on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, wherever you get your podcasts.
Power, politics and the people behind the headlines.
Our country's back. We're really back.
Candid conversations with the people making the rules and
changing the game. Can you see yourself as president one day? I don't think about death.
You just had an invasion over our southern border. My husband is in the corner for the record,
pumping his fist right now that you're asking this question. This is real talk with lawmakers,
newsmakers, and political disruptors. I think Elon's poor probably fences himself more of a
Viking. I think I'm more of a ninja. Join me, Miranda Devine, host of Podforce One, for insightful
newsmaking moments and behind-the-scenes peaks at what makes America's greatest minds tick.
Find Podforce One on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, or wherever you get your podcasts.
The ratings are very good, and I want to congratulate you.
But this is now morphed into the king thing, that he's authoritarian, that he's fascist,
that he's illegally using troops to come in to L.A., to Port.
to Chicago, on and on.
And it is taken deep root in the minds of some Americans.
They don't understand what the Constitution is.
And I'm not faulting them.
They're not taught it in school.
Constitution, nobody's teaching it anymore.
They don't know what's in it.
They don't know what the Rebellion Act is.
They don't know what the Interaction Act is.
They don't know anything.
All right.
They hear.
But the media has picked up this theme, authoritarian, Nazi, this,
and they push it every single day.
And then when they lose Rose, which they will,
media is going to ignore that and go on to the next accusation.
And do you have anything to add to that soliloquy?
Because I'm in New York on Saturday.
I saw all of these protesters, and I tried to ask some of them,
what was the king aspect in their opinion, in their terms?
And they just kept reiterating the rhetoric without understanding any of the back lane.
No, they don't know.
They didn't know at all.
And look, Bill, I agree with you.
I think that this is an organized effort to just discredit the president without any factual basis.
And it's working to some extent.
When you get seven million people out there thinking that he's a king, that organization that they have put together with a lot of Soros money,
they're making some inroads.
Rose, thanks very much.
I really appreciate it.
And, you know, look, my job here is to tell you, the viewer and listener, what the facts are.
And if you have any beef with my analysis or the counselor's analysis, Bill at Bill O'Reilly.com, bill at bill o'Reilly.com, just put your name in town so we know you're not organized.
We don't want one of these people.
You know, we don't want that.
Regularly people writing in.
But I am open to suggestion, but, man, I studied this thing, all right, from every way.
And what I am telling you is absolutely true.
All right, government shut down, day 21.
That's one of the reasons that President Trump's meeting at the Republican senators at the White House.
Trying to get stuff going, he will.
They'll get some kind of compromise.
I don't know when.
It's annoying.
There's no doubt about it.
But here's something politically interesting.
point man for the Democrats to try to convince the American public that it's Trump's fault
that the government shut down, is Hakeem Jeffries, the House Minority Leader. Roll it.
Donald Trump definitively needs to get involved. He needs to get off the sidelines,
get off the golf course, and actually decide to end the shutdown that he's created, that he has
allowed to happen. No, that's totally false. Number one, he's the hardest working president in
history by far, so he's not on a golf course.
other than taking a deep breath once in a while.
And number two, he didn't orchestrate this at all.
The Democratic Party did by going in and saying
that they're not going to open the government,
vote for the government to be open unless the Republicans,
give them the ability to give undocumented migrants
about six million of them free health care.
And they knew from the jump.
Schumer knew that was never going to fly.
Even though both Thune, the Republican leader in the Senate,
and the Speaker of the House, Johnson, said, look, we'll talk about it.
We'll come up with some kind of compromise here.
Not enough.
Everybody knows the game, if you're honest.
Jean-Pierre, all right, Corinne.
He's got to book out.
Kamala Harris' book's doing okay.
I've sold some copies.
Not surprised.
Seventy-five million people voted for.
I haven't heard anybody saying,
gee, that's a good book.
But Jean-Pierrez's book out.
And she's going on a liberal show.
She wouldn't come here or anything like that.
But even the liberal broadcasters are going, wait,
there was something wrong in the Biden White House.
Not according to Corinne, there wasn't.
Roll it.
I was his White House press secretary, which means I had a role that saw him practically every day and traveled with him for more than 95%.
We've always said, we're not going to say, oh, he didn't age.
He aged.
And he poked fun at it.
We always owned up.
And with age comes what happens when you get older.
Which is what I, what I, but when we talk about the mental acuity, and again, I take this very, very seriously.
I never saw anyone who wasn't there.
who was always engaged.
If that's true that he, Joe Biden, was always engaged,
then he could be the worst president.
He'll never pass Buchanan.
I get letters every day.
Oh, no, Biden's the worst.
No, he's not.
But the Biden administration was such a disaster.
And if you just look at issue after issue after issue,
whatever issue it might be, the failure, failure, failure,
look abroad.
Just look overseas.
what what did he accomplish over there in four years so if he was always there always
engagements i don't believe for a second because john pierre has to say that because she was saying
it while she was in office so if she were if she were to say now oh no no Joe was out of it
he was napping he only were three hours a day and the other people made the decisions and the
auto pen and she were to say that now that means she was lying back in the white house
So she can't say it.
With Amex Platinum, access to exclusive Amex pre-sale tickets can score you a spot trackside.
So being a fan for life turns into the trip of a lifetime.
That's the powerful backing of Amex.
Pre-sale tickets for future events subject to availability and varied by race.
Terms and conditions apply.
Learn more at amex.ca.com.
I usually ask potential criminals to have a seat, but now I'm asking you to join me.
Chris Hansen for my new series, have a seat with Chris Hansen.
Guests each week are fascinating personalities who are grabbing headlines, making waves or changing our lives for the better.
Have a seat with Chris Hansen available wherever you get your podcasts.
So Disney, it took a hit after Jimmy Kimmel.
This is according to a TV website called Antenna.
So about 8% of Americans canceled either Hulu or one of the Disney Plus or one of the subscribers because they were mad about Jimmy Kimmel.
But then apparently Disney and Hulu have made a comeback.
So the left, which likes Mr. Kimmel, they got wind that a lot of people were bailing out, so they're picking it up.
I don't know what's true.
Numbers are not, they can be, you know, you can manipulate them all over the place.
I do know this.
The Walt Disney Company was once the premier company in America.
It's where everybody loved it.
No more.
And it'll never, ever get back even close to where they were.
That's what I know.
Overseas.
So I have a call later.
later today from with the Beijing people there is absolute chaos now so
President Xi is having a purge nine top generals out of there they have their
Communist Party membership stripped that's big that's big in China you are
a non-person and 14
Chinese government people have been accused of wrongdoing.
That could be death sentence.
So there's all kinds of horror going on over there in China.
I don't know why.
I'll find out this is pretty big.
Now remember, President Trump next week, October 27th,
he's going over to Korea.
Might be there on Halloween.
is supposed to meet with she, but that has not been confirmed.
That is a huge meeting between Trump and she.
Huge.
Can't tell you how important that is.
But before the meeting, there's some trouble in River City, as I said.
Back with a final thought in a moment.
So, final thought of the day you saw at top,
but President Trump mentioned me in his briefing today about Kate's law.
We're very pleased that happened, and we are hoping the law will be passed soon.
So I opened a mail yesterday, and I got a letter from the president about confronting evil.
He goes, Dear Bill, it's great seeing you at the Yankee game recently.
Your continued friendship means a great deal to me, and I am friends with the president.
I've got to be up front about that.
I appreciate you sharing a copy of your new book.
It's released comes at a critical time
as evil actors seek to destroy the moral fabric of our nation,
but we will never let that happen.
Then he has in the up top, the book is great.
Now, this is a very kind letter
because President Trump knows his endorsement
will help sell books.
He knows that.
And he just did it.
I was expecting it.
anything like that at all.
And he does acts of kindness, not just to me, but others all time.
And I'm kind of low to tell you about them because, you know, I don't want to exploit my
friendship with the president.
I want to do that.
And I'll criticize him, as you well know, when I think that's warranted.
But what you see is not what you get with Donald Trump.
So he's a much softer guy.
out of the spotlight.
Now, he's done a lot of very kind things.
I'm going to tell you a story later on this week
about a guy at Yankee Stadium
when I was there on 9-11.
But I wanted to bring it to your attention.
So I'm glad the president liked the book, number one.
Okay?
Number two, I'll frame that letter
because it was a very nice thing of him to do.
Thank you for watching and listening
to the No Spin News.
I'm Bill O'Reilly, and we will see you.
again tomorrow.
