Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - Trump’s Chief of Staff Susie Wiles’ Controversial Interview, the President's Rob Reiner Comments, Combating Media Misinformation, Tim Graham Exposes Wikipedia’s Leftist Bias

Episode Date: December 17, 2025

Hey BillOReilly.com Premium and Concierge Members, welcome to the No Spin News for Tuesday, December 16, 2025. Stand Up for Your Country.  Takeaways from White House chief of staff Susie Wiles...’ Vanity Fair interview. Talking Points Memo: Bill emphasizes the need for a White House response team to promptly address press misinformation, highlighting misleading unemployment rate figures. Why Donald Trump is suing the BBC. Tim Graham, Executive Editor of NewsBusters, joins the No Spin News to discuss an investigation showing that Wikipedia cites left-leaning outlets nearly 20 times more often than right-leaning ones. Bill reports on a U.S. military strike in the Eastern Pacific, targeting three boats accused of drug smuggling. Final Thought: Be a part of Bill’s last show of 2025 by submitting your question here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:19 Another uproar from the White House, every day, every single day. This one chief of staff, Susie Wiles, gave an interview to Vanity Fair Magazine. In the interview, and they edited it, of course, all magazines do that, she says some controversial stuff. And now all hell is breaking loose in the press. Susie Wiles said this, Susie Wiles said that, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:54 My first question is, why, why Ms. Wiles? And, you know, you have one of the most important jobs in the country. Why would you talk to Vanity Fair Magazine? What do you hope to gain by that? This is a left-wing, Hollywood-based hate-Trump publication. That's what it is. Why are you giving them your valuable time? And you know they're going to edit the piece in a way that makes sure.
Starting point is 00:02:28 you and your boss look at. It's 100%. I can't figure this out. I really cannot figure it out. And I'm asked the president a number of times because he does it too. Why do you talk to Bob Woodward when you know Bob Woodward has accepted millions of dollars to write a book that is disparaging you? Why talk to him? And the president answers, well, I want to persuade him. I want him to see him before him here. He doesn't care. They don't care. Now, I'm not accusing vanity fear of making anything up. They're smarter than that. But as Ms. Wiles stated, they're not going to provide context for her remarks. So I'll give me an example. In the piece, it says that Ms. Wiles believes that President Trump has an alcoholic.
Starting point is 00:03:26 personality. Whoa! Whoa, that's a headline. President Trump is an alcoholic personality. Well, Susie Wiles' father was Pat Somerall, a football guy. He may remember. He was an alcoholic. And her point was that alcoholics are risk takers and often do not consider the downside of what they're doing, which is true. That's an alcoholic personality. Now, Donald Trump doesn't drink or take drugs and never has because his older brother, as I chronicle in the United States of Trump, my book on the president, died from alcoholism, very young. He was an airline pilot.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Trump saw that. He was close to his brother. He never touched this stuff. But the personality, Ms. Wiles, is trying to describe to Vanity Fair. But that's not what Vanity Fair puts out. They put it out as a majority of it. He's drunk all the time. And then it goes on and on and on and on and on.
Starting point is 00:04:35 All right. So this dominates, and you'll see it if you bother watching the cable news tonights or even, it's got to get into the nightly news, too. They've got to do it. And it'll all be negative toward Trump. Oh, Tuesday, whoa, oh, oh. but what did you people expect to happen? All right.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Talking points memo is another situation almost along the same lines, but this is not the White House's fault. Okay? All right. So if you are in the social media on the internet looking for news coverage, you get this headline from CNN
Starting point is 00:05:21 and other left-wing organizations. Unemployment rate hits a four-year high last month, November. Okay, that's CNN. New York Times. U.S. unemployment rose in November, a warning sign for the economy. MS. Unemployment rate reaches a four-year high, as Trump's economic woes can think.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Continue, USA Today, U.S. added 64,000 jobs in November as unemployment hits a four-time high. Now, most people are just going to read those headlines. They're not reading an article about economics, okay? Not doing it. Oh, the economy is terrible, economy is terrible, economy is terrible. Okay, so let's analyze what actually happened yesterday. So in November, unemployment rate is stated 4.6%, up from 4.4 in September. There was no report in October because of the government shut down, okay?
Starting point is 00:06:33 So it is up 0.2 percent. It's not anything significant. But here's what the articles will not tell you. On the last day of September, continuing into October and November, hundreds of thousands of federal employees were furloughed. Hundreds of thousands. Let go because of Doge and the Trump administration cutting back the federal payroll.
Starting point is 00:07:04 That's where all of the jobs were lost. Is that going to be in the article? No. No. The other thing is that analysts were expecting 40,000 jobs to be created in November. And the number came in at 64,000. Higher, significantly higher.
Starting point is 00:07:28 I'm not going to see it. Okay? So, again, this is all by design that we're going to take stuff out of context, throw it out there, and the left wing media is 80% of the media, probably more. And then hope that the American people rebel against Donald Trump because they think the economy is bad. Economy isn't bad. Might get that way, but it's not bad now. All right.
Starting point is 00:08:02 So added to this are the distractions like Danty Fair at Susie Wilde. And the biggest distraction came this week when Rob Reiner and his wife were murdered by allegedly by their son. horrible. I mean, there's no other word for it. Doesn't get worse than that. Rob Reiner was a militant who hated Donald Trump. Despised it. And a very involved person in the progressive movement. But that doesn't mean you're happy when he dies because it's just like Charlie Kirk. Remember the people were happy when he died. So the president comes out and says, I think it's because Rob Reiner was a far left politician who hated me and that led to his death.
Starting point is 00:09:08 That's a stretch. But even if that's what the president thinks, it's a wrong time to say it. referencing Charlie Kirk. You know, there are millions of people who didn't like Charlie Kirk, but you don't say it when he's assassinated. Have you heard of Gold Belly? It's this amazing site that celebrates the best of America by shipping our country's most iconic foods from legendary restaurants straight to your door, anywhere in the USA. Now, I tried Gold Belly's main lobster roll kit and deep dish pizza. Incredible. Both of them. So this holiday season, I'm gifting a coconut cake and
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Starting point is 00:11:36 Now, the exchange caught my attention on News Nation last night between Chris Cuomo and a caller. And the caller desperately wanted Cuomo to ram these comments down Trump's throat. Okay? But Cuomo didn't do it on a show. He mentioned it, but he wasn't virtue signaling like all the other liberal commentators for. He didn't do that.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Roll the tape. We all know to be better than that. But why, why, why do you need it? Why do you need it? Why do you need it like it's a dog treat? Why do you need it like it's a, oh, Chris is okay. He gets that Trump is a monster. Look, the guy's not a monster, okay?
Starting point is 00:12:21 He plays the system. All right. So, again, virtually every single broadcaster ran with that Trump's horrible. But Cuomo didn't because Cuomo understands the bigger picture. Okay, and he's not justifying Trump's statement, okay? I'm not doing that. He's just saying, look, this is where we are politically now. It's hatred.
Starting point is 00:12:53 That's where we are. There's no detente in America. There's no trying to understand the other side or trying to work out of compromise. It's hatred. Now, you blame whatever you want to blame. But I'm not going to be a part of it. And Cuomo, to his credit, doesn't seem to be either. That's what happened.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Okay. So now every single day, it's this crazy kind of stuff. And it is affecting President Trump's legacy. Now, he will speak to the nation tomorrow night, Wednesday night. And on Thursday, we'll have a full fair and smart analysis. of the president's speech. It's important speech for the president. Okay, it is. Because his legacy has to survive next year. He can't lose the House or the Senate because he won't get anything done the rest of the way. So this is a legacy thing now. Final point in the memo.
Starting point is 00:13:57 The White House desperately needs a rapid response team to correct the press when it lies like it did about the unemployment numbers. Okay, lie by omission. They had to have somebody, in addition to Caroline Leavitt can't do it. She's got the day-to-day. But a rapid response team comes out, boom, boom, boom, this is what they're like that. Desperately need that. Okay, and I hope the president, who does follow this broadcast, gets it up and running.
Starting point is 00:14:30 And that's a memo. All right, Donald Trump is suing the British Broadcasting Corporation. in Florida. Why? Because the BBC broadcasts here in America. Assuming for $10 billion because they admitted that they misedited a January 6th piece of tape to try to implicate Trump in fostering a rebellion. And they used two separate things and put them together as one. They admitted it, two of their executives, who fired. Now, Trump will win the lawsuit. It'll be settled, just like all the others are, and it'll go to his library. I assume that he'll get $25 million out of the BBC. But they did
Starting point is 00:15:19 it. And, you know, they're not going to go through the process, that's for sure. Joe Biden's library didn't have any money. So it caused between $200 million to build a presidential library these days. You can check with Barack Obama. This is going up in Chicago. Trump's already raised the money. He's already got his library. It's going to be in Palm Beach County, Florida. Biden has $11 million. That's it. And nobody's giving him any money. His library is supposed to go in Delaware, but, you know, I don't think so. But that's that. Wikipedia. I use it. All right? I use it consistently. for information. But here is a very interesting study
Starting point is 00:16:07 by the Media Research Center, conservative group, but accurate group. We've been using them for years here, and I've never had to retract anything they printed. So media research says that Wikipedia cites left-wing outlets 20 times more than right-wings when delivering information. Okay, here's the conclusion.
Starting point is 00:16:28 MCR-MRC researchers search all languages of Wikipedia, November 18th and 19th this year, determine how many times the editors cited each of the right, lean right, center, lean left, left sources that appear on the publicly available all-size media bias chart. Overwhelmingly, it's left wing. New York Times cited more than a million times. Highest for the conservative movement, Fox News, 126,000 times. They're in a number. So you can see that it's just way out of line. So when people who don't know that Wikipedia is doing this, go to Wikipedia, they're getting left-wing information most of the time.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Joining us now from Herndon, Virginia, is Tim Graham, the executive editor of NewsBusters and a member of the Media Research Center. Why is this important? I mean, I know I use Wikipedia just to look stuff up. I'm not looking for their political analysis. Do you think a lot of people are doing that? Yes, because obviously when you do a Google search, what's the first result you're generally going to get?
Starting point is 00:17:44 Google gives you Wikipedia. It's just the algorithms right there. So almost whatever, when you put in somebody's name, you put in a political event, the first link you're probably going to get is to Wikipedia. So that's really important. And then it says, which sources do they use? Yes, overwhelmingly, they're going to use these liberal media sources.
Starting point is 00:18:07 You know, when we were kids and we were reading the world book, it didn't have a bunch of footnotes necessarily, but it was pretty straightforward and cut and dried. I think when you look at Wikipedia articles, like the Wikipedia article on the Media Research Center, it's going to have a bunch of liberal things in it. They're, you know, oh, controversies, you know. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Obviously, I did something earlier this year, where I looked at the news networks, Fox and MSNBC and CNN. And they went to Fox News having a defamation suit right up top. You know, CNN settled a defamation suit. That's like in paragraph 56. I mean, so these are the sorts of things. They overwhelmingly favor, yeah, the New York Times, AP, the Washington Post. And then the conservative sites are way, way down there.
Starting point is 00:18:55 So, yeah, the New York Times is like $1.6 million. and the New York Post is like 41,000. That's like 41 to 1. So that's what you get. Do you think that Wikipedia editors or owners are doing it on purpose? Yes. You know, remember, it used to be in the early days
Starting point is 00:19:14 where like any Schmoe who got registered, you'd be a registered user and you could get in there and try to put sentences or paragraphs in there and see if they'd be accepted. You know, it's a much more top-down enterprise now. And, you know, when we get in there and we search it. Yeah, it's obviously intentional. And it is really the same thing we find when our team's been studying Google News, Apple News. When you go into these aggregators,
Starting point is 00:19:41 you're going to overwhelmingly get the so-called trusted sources, The New York Times, CNN, NPR. That's what they're going to give you on any breaking news story. And Wikipedia is just sort of doing the same. So people don't know this. They go in, they read this stuff, they believe it, A lot of them, they're not skeptical, and then this helps the progressives and the Democratic Party. And that's the game the fix is in, right? Yeah, and if I was a high school teacher, I would say I don't want any Wikipedia citations, no footnotes from Wikipedia. But, I mean, you could just as well cite the footnotes that Wikipedia actually uses and says, I'm good, I cited the New York Times, you know, I mean, but it's, this is one of those first,
Starting point is 00:20:27 places that people go. And yeah, you're right. If you're just searching for something like who won Super Bowl 41, you're going to get straight up facts. But yeah, in any contentious political actor or political issue, you're going to get a lot of spin. Right. Or personalities. They can, you know, pump up progressive personalities and pump down conservatives. Now, sometimes AI comes up, you know, for a, um, information of a subject. Is that accurate? No, because again, a lot of these AI bots, and now we're comparing Elon Musk, Grock maybe to some of these others, the chap, GPTs, the Google Gemini's, what are they using for their sources? I mean, when you do a Google search,
Starting point is 00:21:21 you'll get that too. It's going to be, we just looked at the New York Times and, you know, these sorts of trustworthy outlets to put together our AI answer to you. So it's the same problem all over the place. Okay. Is there any solution to the problem, Tim? Hack the holidays with the PC Holiday Insiders Report. Try this PC Porchetta. Crackling, craveworthy.
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Starting point is 00:21:59 Okay, okay. Try the season's hottest flavors from the PC Holiday Insiders report. Please feast responsibly. Well, I mean, again, sometimes maybe we'll try to see if Grockapedia is better than Wikipedia or GROC AI is better than the other ones. You know, we always just say, yeah, there's a lot of conservative media out there now that you can get your information from. and of course the liberals will all say you can't trust any of that but you certainly can and
Starting point is 00:22:31 when we do the numbers on these things we demonstrate it it's factual you might not like the numbers but the numbers are the numbers okay but an outlet like news max or fox news they do ignore stories on occasion that are unflattering to the right or president trump correct i imagine And that's true, yes. And the reverse is true, right? So the CBS and ABC and NBC don't want to do the negative stories on Democrats. I would say this. We were talking about, you were talking about Trump's statement on Rob Reiner.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Fox was on that, and they did not like it. Well, they were on it, but they didn't contextualize it. They virtue signaled it, didn't they? Well, it's easy to virtue signal, isn't it? Yeah, I know, but look, that's not reporting. Who thinks that was a good idea? That's not reporting, all right? The reason that Donald Trump made the statement is that he is so angry.
Starting point is 00:23:36 It's us against them. It's me and my White House against all those media people, all of them, okay? And whatever I have to do to bring them down, I'm going to bring. Now, that's the context of the remark. justify the remark, but that contact is completely lost, completely lost on why this is happening. It's what I do. It's why I'm successful. But, well, I saw some of the conservative coverage. It wasn't just Fox either. It was a bunch of conservative outlets all across the spectrum. Virtue signaling. That's all was. It wasn't anything like, well, why did a guy do
Starting point is 00:24:12 this? Why does it continue to do it? Explain it to the people you know about it. That's not justify. Last word. I think it's interesting that when, at least in the coverage I've seen as this of this horrible death of Rob Reiner, they really aren't focusing on. They'll say he was a Democratic donor, but they're certainly not going to say he's controversial the way that Charlie Kirk was portrayed as controversial. Rob Reiner was too. Way more. What Rob Reiner did in his life with the people for the American way and all that. But I'm not going to go in. on Reiner. I'm not. He's a private citizen. You can do whatever he wants to do. He was murdered and that was horrible, as I said. And I'm going to leave it alone for now. But if you know
Starting point is 00:25:01 how extreme Reimer was, but that again does not justify what happened. Tim, thanks very much. We appreciate it. Good, good work, Tim. I got to tell you, we follow you now all the time. The stuff is real. All right, Ukraine and NATO have agreed in a security down the road pact. This is very important, underreported. Putin's not going to give it up. I mean, I don't, they can say whatever they want to say, but he loves this. He loves killing innocent people.
Starting point is 00:25:41 But if NATO and Ukraine sign a pact that says any further, intrusion, all right? Any further aggressive action, and NATO is going to step it up against Russia. Very important. Risky, but I think it has to be done. That's its employ. Three more drug boats blown up in the Eastern Pacific. A lot of the reputage, the people on television don't know geography. These boats are not from Venezuela or from Colombia. Then, as well, it does not have a presence in the Pacific Ocean. Okay, it's Caribbean only. Anyways, brings a total of 95 people dead and 25 boats blown up.
Starting point is 00:26:34 All right, and Hegg says, he's not going to release the unedited version of the September 2nd boat strike where two guys survived the initial and then they blew them up on the second one. So that's not going to be released. interesting happening yesterday got no reporting at all. President Trump signed an executive order classifying fentanyl, the deadly poisonous drug, as a weapon of mass destruction. Here's what the President said. But there's no doubt that America's adversaries are trafficking fentanyl into the United States
Starting point is 00:27:07 in part because they want to kill Americans. If this were a war, that would be one of the worst wars. I believe they killed over the last five or six years. five or six years per year, 200 to 300,000 people. All right, so why did the president do this? Because it makes it easier for him to justify to Congress and to the American people land strikes that are going to happen against the drug cartel people. So you're going to expect that in Venezuela first, and then Mexico?
Starting point is 00:27:43 That's where most of the fentanyl comes from. Fentinault doesn't come from Venezuela, okay? But Trump wants Maduro out. If he has to do a little droning there, he'll do it, I believe. But Mexico was a big message sent to them. Okay? Now, weapon of mass destruction, that's why the Iraq war started. But Hussein did not have them.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Fentanyl, plenty of it in Mexico, that's for sure. This whole drug thing bothers me, and, you know, again, I say to people, you don't understand drug addicts. Most Americans don't understand the mentality. They don't care if they die. This kid who killed his parents, the Reiner kid, you think that kid cares if he dies? You know, they don't care. They lose all humanity. Narcotics robs you of all humanity.
Starting point is 00:28:45 All right, California, the FBI is arrested four people who were allegedly trying to set up a New Year's Eve bombing. I'm not going to give you the names you can find out on Wikipedia if you want. All from L.A., they caught them in Lucerne Valley, a small desert town east of Los Angeles. And they got all kinds of explosive devices and all that. Good work, FBI. die. I know the press hates you because Cash Patel and all that, but good work. Right? Germany arrested five radical Muslims planning an attack on a Christmas market. So the jihad stepping up. The bombing in California, those people, they're all jihadists. And why stepping up
Starting point is 00:29:42 now, I'm not sure. But it is. All right. Spending on the holidays. Our whole Bill O'Reilly.com store is geared to saving you money. I've been over that and over that and over that. And if you don't believe me, then I don't know what to do because the prices are as low as you're ever going to get anything of that quality. Anyway, CNBC to the survey. It says, here are the highlights. It's 41% of Americans plan to spend less this year than last year. 41, it's a big number, okay? 61% believe prices are rising faster than their incomes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:24 And the final thing is 60% are pessimistic on their current economy. That's why the Trump White House needs to get that rapid response team up. Yes, prices are higher, no doubt, but not all prices. And if you manage your money, responsibly and in an intelligent way, they're not going to get hurt. Except on insurance, that's a big one. That's a killer. Medical marijuana. Looks like it's a ruse, according to two studies, in printing a jury.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Journal of the American Medical Association, which is a very prestigious vehicle. Number one, most of the medical marijuana does not help your medical condition. Sorry. And people using medical marijuana, 30% of them are now addicted. They have cannabis use disorder, which is a drug addiction. percent of them. And those who smoke pot every day have double a risk of a heart disease and a stroke. High potency THC also increases the risk of psychosis and anxiety disorders. Again, this Reiner kit out of his mind because he's been taking drugs since 15 years old.
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Starting point is 00:33:04 live, all right? Bill O'Reilly.com slash live. We would like your participation here. It'll be fun. Okay? So that is a week from this evening. Now, I know a lot of people are very busy. Every time I call up my friends and say, hey, what do you do?
Starting point is 00:33:26 Oh, rap, rap, rap, I don't know how long it. See, I got people doing all this for me. I do. I mean, I am. People that rap and people that pick out stuff for me. And I admit it, I admit it. I'm so busy. I was at, I had to go into city last night in Manhattan to this media party, Dan Abrams.
Starting point is 00:33:49 And he's got a good restaurant, Abrams. Just opened Danny's. It's an old-time saloon kind of place where press people hang out. And if you're in Manhattan or you're down there 22nd Street, I believe it is, stop in. Tom O'Reilly sent you. But anyway, Abrams a good guy. I like him. And he put a media party on.
Starting point is 00:34:10 And I was invited. And Abrams only does this to annoy other people at the party. I know what he's doing. But I go because I had a do News Nation, and I had to go into their studio on 42nd Street. So I just twinned it. And I had an interesting conversation with Joe Scarborough. And he was a gentleman, respectful.
Starting point is 00:34:31 The wife was still part of me, but Scarborough said, you know, I hadn't talked to them in a while, and we kind of pioneers in cable news. And I saw a lot of other people. Everybody was respectful, but most are afraid of me. I understand. I'm not exactly, you know, a warm and fuzzy guest. But anyway, everybody's busy, I'm busy, but we'll get it all done. And we'll be back here tomorrow. Thank you for watching tonight. I'm Bill O'Reilly. We'll see you on Wednesday.

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