Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - Trump’s National Security Team’s Fumble, Tom Homan on Immigration Policy and Boston's Defiance, J.D. Vance Targeted With AI Fraud & Putin's Gift to Trump

Episode Date: March 26, 2025

Tonight's rundown:  Hey BillOReilly.com Premium and Concierge Members, welcome to the No Spin News for Tuesday, March 25, 2025. Stand Up for Your Country.  Talking Points Memo: Bill discusses The Atlantic magazine leak story. How did editor Jeffrey Goldberg end up in the text thread? Congressman Jim Jordan announces that hearings focused on the judge in the Trump deportation case will begin next week. Tom Homan, President Donald Trump's border czar, enters the No Spin Zone to discuss the validity of ICE deporting non-criminal migrants and whether he plans to take action against Boston Mayor Michelle Wu and Governor Maura Healey. Is the leaked audio of J.D. Vance criticizing Elon Musk real? Vladimir Putin gifts Donald Trump a portrait of the U.S. president that he commissioned. Final Thought: The sticker shock of summer travel. In Case You Missed It: Read Bill's latest column, Frankie and Donnie Stand out from the crowd with our NEW Not Woke baseball cap for just $28.95! For a limited time, get Bill O'Reilly's bestselling The United States of Trump and a No Spin Mug for only $39.95. Get Bill's latest book, CONFRONTING THE PRESIDENTS, out NOW! Now's the time to get a Premium or Concierge Membership to BillOReilly.com, the only place for honest news analysis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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assess how different this change. chat is. Now, I'm not bragging, but it's different when I interview somebody. And you'll see it. And we'll discuss it tomorrow. Also, I have a name for this program tonight. If it's Tuesday, and it is, it must be chaos. And national security is a subject of this evening's talking points memo. So you've heard about it. There was a big national security meeting. It took place on March 15th at 1144 in the morning in Washington, D.C., J.D. Vance, and vice president, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, CIA Director John Ratcliffe, DIA Intelligence Director Tulsi Gabbard, Treasury Secretary of Scott Besson, White Off Chief of Staff, Susie Wiles, and National Security Officials. Big crew, right? And Pete Hanks said. the Secretary of Defense. Now, the meeting was supposed to be secret

and to discuss bombing the hooties in Yemen who are terrorizing shipping in the Red Sea. Got the scene. Somehow, some way, a guy named Jeffrey Goldberg gets on the thread. So all these people weren't in the room. They were going back and forth on the Internet,

which is always a problem. So Goldberg is in there, listening and reading all the texts and the back and forth. I don't know anything about the internet, but this is on an app called Signal. Okay. We don't know exactly how Goldberg got in there yet, but we'll find out. So this is, this is bad. Capital B, capital A, capital D. Bad. Jeffrey Goldberg is not to be trusted. He is the guy who made up that bogus story about President Trump in Europe calling dead Americans

of World War II and World War I suckers. Remember that? The story is totally fabricated. This is the guy. So you know nobody would invite him in. He just got on there somehow. We needed to know how. Big time.

Okay, so you have this scene. Congress, not happy. The Senate Intelligence Committee today bringing in Gabbard and CIA director John Radcliffe. Go. Senator, I'm not going to get into the specifics. Why are you going to get into the specifics? Is it because it's all classified? Because this is currently under review by the national security. Because it's all classified. If it's not classified, share the text now.

As the White House previously stated. Is it classified or non-classified information on this text? I can confirm. Director Radcliffe, were you on the group chat? Senator, I was on a signal messaging group. So you were the John Ratcliffe on that check? I was. Thank you. Okay.

And there weren't any revelations in the hearings. It was the Democratic senators pounding the Trump administration. And if we were reversed, Republican senators would have done the same thing. That's the way the game is played in Washington. But for you and me, honest American citizens, We want some accountability here, I would assume. Here's what I said on News Nation last night. Look, if you hate Trump, then you're gonna put the worst spin on it.

If you like Trump, then you're gonna say, no big deal. My job is to tell the audience on News Nation exactly what happened, and I'm gonna recap it very quickly, okay? Number one, these guys did not prepare enough for this discussion. They were not responsible enough to protect the country. It's obvious.

They did not know that this weasel Goldberg was going to be on the threat. Somebody allowed him in and that should be investigated. And I'm going to insist on that that we know who allowed how this Goldberg

got access. You have to know. So it doesn't happen again. Now, upon hearing all this, Hillary Clinton went on X with one sentence. It says, you have to be kidding me. All right, because Hillary Clinton was attacked vehemently, we're having classified information on her private server. You'll remember that. But I don't know, Mrs. Clinton, if this is really what you want to do. This was obviously a screw-up, a mistake. I don't believe anybody let Jeffrey Goldberg on that thread intentionally. I don't believe it. There was no reason for it.

But you, madam, intentionally, all right, cleansed your phone and your computer. You took it out. You take all the class-wide stuff that you had illegally, and you try to get rid of it. Come on. It's not even close to being the same thing. to be in the same thing. I want to sit this one out. All right.

So summing up, this is a story that will go away quickly. There'll be another controversy tomorrow, Wednesday. But we need to know how to Skoburg got on that threat. Fair? That's a memo. Congressman Jim Jordan. He ardent Republican, big Trump booster. so he is trying to defend the deportations. And as you know, the Trump administration is sending

people to El Salvador and other countries that they deem to be undesirable. Not all migrants are being rounded up. All right, it's the criminal element along with some people who get caught up in those raids. That's what's happening. Okay, so a guy named Judge James Bosberg, 62 years old, works out of D.C., very liberal judge. He wants to suspend the migrant deportations to El Salvador, and he issued an injunction. The problem was that there was a plane in the air taking criminals to El Salvador,

and that plane continued and landed, and those people are in prison there. United States pays the government in El Salvador to take those people. Now, this is a big legal matter. may go to the Supreme Court, but it's also a matter for Congress, and Jordan is getting involved. Go. And then finally, you got this judge saying, this crazy decision, turn the plane around, bring the bad guys back to America. That makes no sense.

So when you look at all that, coupled with this judge's history, with the FISA court, with the sentence he gave to Klein Smith, the lawyer, Kevin Kleinsmith, who altered the document in front of the FISA court, it really starts. to look like Judge Boasberg is operating purely political against the president. And that's what we want to have hearings on, this broad issue and some of what Judge Bosberg is doing. Okay, that's worthy. Let's find out about the judge. Now, does Klein Smith situation is he was an FBI lawyer who falsified a warrant in the Russian collusion case so that the Bureau could spy on the Trump campaign?

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So I welcome Jim Jordan's hearings. Let's find out about what's going on here. latest border stats about 30,000 undocumented migrants have been deported since Donald Trump took over a little more than two months ago illegal crossings from Mexico into the USA down 94%.

A colossal victory for Donald Trump. No doubt about it. And the people who oppose him are trying to chip away at that. there's no doubt about that either okay so enter the ice chief tom homan he is in charge of deportations i spoke with him yesterday so mr homan i've noticed when you appear on the network news and some cables that the questioning is often hostile to you it's not neutral questioning it's like hey what

What are you doing? How many people did you throw out today? And I'm sure you noticed that, too. And I'm saying to myself, why? Do you have any idea why that so many, so many of the American press corps are antagonistic to you? Well, I think it's because I served President Trump. I mean, you know, when I work for, I was a third in command of ICE under Barack Obama. We had over 4009,000. removals, and they weren't hostile then. So I think working for President Trump makes me a hostile anybody that serves President Trump.

But look, I'm proud to work for President Trump. I think he's the greatest president in my lifetime, and especially when it comes to border security and immigration enforcement and national security. So they don't bother me. Look, if I can deliver their heads rent-free, I'm okay with that because I'm going to keep telling the truth, whether they like it or not.

My talking points never change. I don't care if I'm talking to a conservative or talking to liberal. They're going to hear the same thing, is what I give them as facts. They can like it or not like it, but they're going to hear the truth. Okay, but they don't like it. Now, when you were working for President Obama who deported more undocumented people

than any other president in history, all right, and most of those were at the border that got kicked back fast, and they didn't have this asylum con that they rose up under President Biden. When you were working for Barack Obama, in my research on him from my book, Confronting the President's, he didn't want an open border. He didn't want chaotic immigration. Am I correct there? Well, his first term, like I said, we removed a lot of people in the first term, and largely because we're accounting board patrol removals with ice removals, and that's how come the number got so big. But he was pushing for that.

He was pushing for more removals. But under the second term, the Obama term, we pretty much got shut down. I mean, once he got the named Deporter-in-Chief, operations really slowed down. And that's one of the reason at the end of that administration that I decided to retire. Because after four years doing that, I was tired of it. But in the beginning, he was about securing the border. In the last four years, he was not. And you think it was political pressure, obviously, from the left that caused that?

Absolutely. Okay. Now, one of the beefs against Homeland Security is they are not, they are deporting non-criminal migrants along with the criminals. And I believe that's true to some extent because how could you possibly know when you go sweep a whole bunch of people, say you're a criminal migrant married to a person who isn't a criminal, stuff like that? How valid is that criticism that ICE is now deporting people quickly without due process that aren't criminals? Well, they all get due process. I mean, the non-criminals, where does most of non-criminals get arrested? Sanctuary cities.

And I've said this for two months. Sanctuary cities are going to get exactly what they don't want, more agents in their communities and more collateral arrests. Because if we can't arrest a bad guy in the county jail, one agent arrest, one criminal alien, and they're going to release them. Like the major cities, this country, Sanctuary Cities. You're going to release them back in the community? Okay, fine. We're still going to do our job, which means we're going to go to the community, and we're going to find him.

And when we find them, most likely they're with others. Others that are illegally in the United States, but not a criminal. Well, we're not going to tell ICE agents, forget the oath you took, ignore the immigration law, walk away from these people. No, they're going to come too. So when you look at the collaterals and non-criminals, most of them are arrested in sanctuary cities because they forced us in that position. We're going to arrest them.

That's an important point. So when you do a sweep, if you find a non-criminal migrant, that person gets taken into custody, correct? Yeah, to be clear, when we do a target enforcement operation, we know exactly who we're looking for, and we're most likely we're going to find him. And when we go to that location and look for that target, that criminal target, many times, most times he's with others, especially if that at a work site, they're coming to. They're coming to. So sanctuary cities are forcing us into that situation.

So if you, I've said this many times, let us in the jail. That means less agents in the neighborhood. That means less collaterals, but they refuse to assist ICE, so we're going to keep doing what we're doing. Just to be clear, when you do an enforcement sweep, it is based upon information provided about criminal aliens. Is that correct? Local, state, federal information, right? That's the sweep. Okay, stop, stop.

I want to call it a sweep, Bill. I call it a target enforcement operation. We have a target, we've got a sheet. Who's the alien's name? What's his immigration record? What's his criminal record? We're most likely where we find them and it has to be approved by supervisors. We go on the street, look for somebody.

We have a whole frigid operation sheet that details who this person is and we're looking for. And where do you get that information? From the states, from the locals, where does that come from? Do various databases that we use at ICE. I can't tell you all of them for the law enforcement sensitive, but we do targeting based on criminal databases. We use all sorts of social media. We use a lot of things I don't want to discuss here, but we create those target bases. So you get this stuff, and if there's an undocumented alien who is not a criminal, they get swept up.

They get deported sometimes, and it depends on the process. Am I correct? Yes. All right. Now, Michelle Wu in Boston is heading for collision with Tom Holman, who is speaking to me right now. Again this weekend, she basically said, we're not going to cooperate on any level. We want undocumented people in the city of Boston. And she's backed up by the governor of Massachusetts, Maura Healy.

Do you have any plans to take action against Mayor Wu and Governor Healy? Actually, you're the first show where I can make this announcement. So as I promised at Seaback, I was going to go to Boston. I'm going to bring hell with me. And we did. I was in Boston last Tuesday. I started an operation with ICE, HSI, ERO, FBI, ATF, D-E-A, U.S. Marshals, and the State Department.

And in five-day operation, we arrested 370 illegal aliens in Boston and the surrounding communities in Massachusetts, and 205 of those were significant public safety threats, including four murderers, child rapists, armed robbers, a couple of Interpol Red Notice Arrest. We arrested a lot of bad people in the last five days in Massachusetts, many of them in Boston. We just put the numbers again today. You're the first show I've actually been able to talk about this.

The numbers just got put out today, Bill. Excellent. But Ms. Wu is defiant even in the face of those incredible stats. And they are incredible if you know the city of Boston. It's not New York City. It's not nearly that large. So I'm wondering whether the next step for the Justice Department, it wouldn't be, it would be the Attorney General Bondi, is going to go after people like Michelle Woeh for violating some tenant of federal law. You believe that will happen?

I hope it will happen. I know Pam Bonney's already put sanctuercities on notice. I know she's there already sued a couple. I sent that report to Pam Bondi this morning and who we arrested in Boston in the surrounding area and the public safety threat that we had to take off the street

because if we got to go to the street and rest people like this the job of ICE is already dangerous but to go arrest an aggravated felon murder public safety threat in the general public not only puts the officer at risk it puts the community at risk

so I sent the numbers this morning to DOJ so I think Pam Bonnie would take action and do what she can do but she's already started soon in Sanctuary City So, you know, God bless Pam Bondi. I think she's going to do the right thing, and I think she's going to try to hold these sanctuary cities accountable in courts. All right.

So it'll be civil litigation, not criminal litigation, correct? I'll leave that out to Pam Bondi. We'll see what happens. But it would be amazing to see, you know, a big city mayor or a state governor, like Pritzker in Illinois, or even, you know, here, Hokel and New York, she plays a double game. The damage that the Biden administration did to the country, and I know this is a political question, but it has troubled me from the very beginning, seems to me to be incalculable as far as the

Treasury is concerned, crime is concerned, social upheaval is concerned. Do you have any idea why Joe Biden opened that border for three and a half years? Do you have any idea, why that man did that? No, I can only guess, and I've said many times, I work for six presidents starting around Reagan. Even when Clinton Obama took steps, as we discussed, to try to take action and secure the border. No one did more than President Trump.

He was unprecedented in his success. He had the most secure border in my lifetime. But Joe Biden's the first president in my lifetime, who came in office and unsecured a border on purpose. That wasn't mismanagement. It wasn't incompetence. He knew exactly what he was doing, along with Alejandro Mayorkans. But there must be chat, though.

There must be chat in Homeland Security and in the Border Patrol precincts about the why of all this. What did he think he was accomplishing? I'm going to my family because we're going to Burlington for the event of liquidation candent. We're going to now

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will be counted next census, which will lead to more seats in the house for the dams. I think they saw a future political benefit by releasing millions of people in a sanctuary cities in this country. That is my belief. Final question. California is 50% of the undocumented migrants. Newsom is now backpedaling, as you know. But L.A. and San Francisco are still sanctuary cities. Do you expect anything to change in California?

I can tell you, ICE is going to, we'll be going to L.A. and San Francisco very soon. In sanctuary cities, we can't arrest a bad guy in jail. We'll double the man force in those cities. but we're going to do our job. Sanctuary not. If you're a sanctuary where you want to step aside and watch us, protect your communities, then have that it. Just don't get in the way. Don't cross that line of knowingly harboring, concealing, it will go inmate.

Don't cross that line of impeding us because there will be consequences. But we're coming. We're going to do this job. President Trump promised American people we're going to do this. American people giving a mandate. This is the number one issue. We're going to keep President Trump's promise. We're going to be going to every sanctuary city

and arresting public safety threats because that's what American people want. All right, unless the court, Supreme Court, says you can't do a certain thing, you're not going to defy the federal court order, correct? No, we're not going to do that. We're not the Biden administration who ignored the courts on forgiveness of a student loan. They told me he couldn't do it. He did it, and he fought him every step of the way on that. No, this is a law and order administration.

We're going to do the right thing. Absolutely. All right. Mr. Homer, you're welcome anytime. Thank you for taking the time to talk with me today. Thank you, sir. I appreciate you. All right, I want to thank Mr. Holman again for being kind enough to come in here.

We know everybody is after him for an interview. Now, I'd like you to tell me what to thought of that interview. Bill at Bill O'Reilly.com. Name in town, if you wish to opine. Bill at Bill O'Reilly.com. Good, bad, too hard, too soft. Did I leave anything out? You know, give me your review.

I like those reviews. All right, Vice President, Advance. So I am willing to give him a chance. I don't know that much about him. Obviously, if Donald Trump does well, Vance will be the nominee, I believe, for the Republican presidential in 2008. So a video comes out on TikTok,

where I've never been and never will go. TikTok. all right is under the account of Jose Italia nobody knows what that is 1.5 million people watch a video that has vice president Vance attacking Elon Musk rolling everything that he's doing is getting criticized in the media and he says that he's helping and he's not he's making us look that he's making me look bad, and I'll tell you this, and he wouldn't like it if I said it, but he's not even in America. He is from South Africa, and he is cosplay as this great American leader

in a room that has the portrait of some of the greatest men that ever lived in this country, and he has the audacity to act like he is an elected official. I am an elected official. I am an official, I am an important one in this situation, not him. So the video's a phony. It's AI. All right, Van says it. His director says it. Everybody says it. It's a phony. Dangerous. Because this stuff goes overseas. It goes all over the world. So what do we do? Here's what Chris Cuomo said last night. Go. Congress should make what we are witnessing a crime.

a federal crime, not just a civil defamation, not just civil fraud, a crime. Why? If you don't punish the hell out of somebody and invest in the software and capabilities and training to decode when somebody has made something, I don't know what we're going to do. That could cause wars to say I stuff. So I agree with POMO. It should be a felony at the federal level, and it should be a separate part of the FBI to investigate AI fraud. That should happen almost immediately, Cash Patel, because you've got to get ahead of this. Now, to make a phony video that goes all over the world and a million and a half people watch it with the voice of the Vice President of the United States, it's about as serious it gets.

Don't we need to act on this and fast? Putin. So, let me get a lot of mail about Putin. You will learn more about Vladimir Putin in confronting evil than you have ever heard or ever known or anything. We have investigated this man. Way do you see what we've uncovered. That's my upcoming book. It'll be out September 9th.

Anyway, Putin is evil, but he governs a lot like Stalin, his eye. So he presents a certain face of the public. So Putin has given Donald Trump a gift, a portrait that he had specially commissioned, and Trump accepted the gift. Putin also gave gifts to Barack Obama. He gave porcelain cups, plates, and a DVD. I don't know, but President Obama even has him, and Putin gave Biden. gave Biden $12,000 writing box and pen. Wow. And I know Biden has that. 12,000 gains.

Putin, he curry's favor with the powerful, you know, that's what evil men do. And is he going to get them anywhere? I'm following the negotiations in Saudi Arabia. Apparently, they're agreeing that there's not going to be any attacks on the Black Sea. which borders Russia and Ukraine by either, but let's just wait and see how this all evolves there. All right? Smart Life. So listen up to this Smart Life tip. It's important. So a lot of people have jewelry, old watches, coins, things passed down to them, airlooms, that are valuable. I mean, almost everybody I know has that. This is the best time that I can remember. to sell it.

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Now, prices are high. Demand is high for it. Now, some of the stuff is going to be worthless, and you're going to think it's worth it, and you bring it in, and the guy is going to go, ah, I don't think so. But you need to get three evaluations, not just one. So what you do is you go to jewelry stores or whatever antique places, and you ask for an appraiser. and some of them will have them and some of them won't and you get three separate appraisals of your gear whatever you have now coins that's a little more sophisticated but in the appraisal and you may have to pay for it a little bit some do it free some don't you need to have it written down what the estimated value of your gold silver uh watch or watch whatever what the estimated value you

is. And then you see, you compare the three. And then if you want to sell, you obviously take the highest bidder. It's not that they're always going to buy from you, but you'll know pretty much what it's worked. Because you don't have to sell. You can go into a store and say, look, here's what I need on this. Will you take it and put in your display case? Coins are a little bit more sophisticated. Their coin dealers are everywhere. I wouldn't do it on the internet. I would do it in person because almost every place in the United States has these shops. But again, this is the time to move this stuff. That metals market is big.

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Okay, that is the smart life tip. Stay in history, March 25, 2021. Georgia says, you know, we didn't like the way the 2020 election turned out here in our state. And Georgia was, you know, one of those states where Donald Trump said he got host. You'll remember. So Georgia changed the election. law four years ago today. And Joe Biden, the president of the United States, went wild. Go. It is reassuring to see that for-profit operations and businesses are speaking up about how these new Jim Crow laws are just antithetical to who we are.

That's just a bunch of bull. They're not Jim Crow laws, and Georgia's laws have been challenged, and they're lost. Georgia won. What is Biden objecting to? Here it is. Voter ID for absentee ballots. Old Joe said, no, we don't need that. Of course you need it.

Of course you do. On an absentee ballot, of course you need an ID. or people that are not American citizens would vote. Oh, my God. Limitations on ballot drop boxes. Well, that's debatable, but I mean, how many are you going to have? Everyone in the state got one? Prohibiting the distribution of food and drinks and law.

I think that's small ball. I don't care about the food and drinks when you lined up to vote. And finally, reduce time frame for requesting absentee ballots, absolutely necessary to avoid chaos and vote. accounts that expend a month after election day. But by goes, this is Jim Crow. You know what Jim Crow law is? Jim Crow was designed to make it impossible for black

Americans to vote. Does I make it impossible? The show and ID and have fewer drop boxes, Joe. Boy, boy. Anyway, Georgia rehabbed its voting system four years ago today. Back with a final thought. about your summer vacation.

Okay, final thought of the day, I booked a trip. I told you about I'm taking my son for a graduation gift to North Asia. Hotels are insane. Insane. Now, here is the final thought. Go small on a hotels. Don't burn 2,000 a day or 1,500. You know what they're doing now?

They give you one rate for a hotel, but they don't tell you. about taxes, about resort fees, about parking fees, and by the time you all get it up, your rate is double. I always insist on breakfast. If I'm going to pay decent money for a hotel, I want breakfast. Sorry, you can negotiate a lot of stuff. Expedia is pretty good, but I don't book on the internet. Okay, I use American Express to do my bookings, and it works, okay? but you're going to get sticker shock two places hotels renter cars they have jacked up these prices i have well it's historical of highs historical highs but you can find smaller hotels okay that's not going to kill you but you got to look and you got to start now because the

smart money is doing that they're booking now all right final of the day. Appreciate you watching very much tonight. I'm Bill O'Reilly. We'll see you again on.