Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - Trump's Phone Call With Putin, Bill’s White House Visit, Josh Hammer Breaks Down Trump’s Stance on Global Conflict, & Judge Orders Fani Willis to Pay Up
Episode Date: March 19, 2025Tonight's rundown: Hey BillOReilly.com Premium and Concierge Members, welcome to the No Spin News for Tuesday, March 18, 2025. Stand Up for Your Country. What we know about President Trump’...s recent phone call with Vladimir Putin. Talking Points Memo: Bill discusses his visit to the White House with Donald Trump, covering the JFK files, Kate's Law, and Trump's strategy with Putin. Josh Hammer, host of The Josh Hammer Show and America on Trial, joins the No Spin News to discuss Donald Trump's approach to the Israel/Gaza and Ukraine/Russia conflicts, as well as the left's reaction to a ceasefire agreement. Fani Willis is ordered to pay $54K for violating open records laws in the Trump case. Final Thought: Bill will be on NewsNation tonight with Chris Cuomo and Stephen A. Smith. In Case You Missed It: Read Bill's latest column, The Problem is Us Stand out from the crowd with our NEW Not Woke baseball cap for just $28.95! For a limited time, get Bill O'Reilly's bestselling The United States of Trump and a No Spin Mug for only $39.95. Get Bill's latest book, CONFRONTING THE PRESIDENTS, out NOW! Now's the time to get a Premium or Concierge Membership to BillOReilly.com, the only place for honest news analysis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hello, O'Reilly here, welcome to the No Spin News, Tuesday, March 18, 2025, stand up for your country.
Well, this could be not the most important program we've ever done, but the most enlightening.
So, as some of you know, I was in the White House yesterday, cabinet meeting, 90 minutes,
second one this year for me, unbelievable privilege, incredible privilege.
I said next to Elon Musk, I don't know if he was too thrilled about that, but we had a very
nice conversation.
It was incredible, and I'm going to tell you all about it.
Some national security stuff I can't say, but mostly I asked President Trump, look, I want to
report this meeting. He said, okay. There were a few things that we agreed that I would keep
private for the time being. So, as you know, the big story is that Putin and Trump had a phone call
for 90 minutes today about a ceasefire in Ukraine. So Zelensky's already agreed to it because he
has to agree to it. And that's it. Now you've got to get Putin to sign on to the third
day ceasefire.
Both Russia and the United States
portray the call
as positive.
I was in the pre-call
meeting, which again
I'm going to tell you about.
I didn't obviously witness the call
today. But this is the
summary that I just got.
So President Trump, President Putin, spoke
about the need for peace ceasefire in Iraq
in Ukraine.
Both leaders agreed the conflict needs to end
with a lasting peace.
All right, and they also stress the need for improved bilateral relations between the USA and Russia.
Good, right?
Leaders agree the movement to peace will begin with an energy and infrastructure ceasefire.
Well, it seems like that Putin agreed to the ceasefire, but not yet, formally.
Okay?
There are going to be talks beginning almost immediately in the Middle East.
So I'm not sure what country, whatever country can provide the best security, but it's going to be in the Gulf.
Okay. Leaders spoke broadly about the Middle East as a region and potential cooperation.
Okay, that's good. They further discuss the need to stop the proliferation of strategic weapons will engage with others to ensure the broadest public application.
But the positive. Two leaders shared the view that Iran should never be in a position to destroy Israel.
Then I should be happy about that. And we'll report on the C.C.
fire in Gaza going down a little bit later on.
Finally, both Putin and Trump agreed that a future with an improved bilateral relationship
between the USA and Russia has a huge upside.
It includes enormous economic deals, geopolitical stability, when peace has been achieved.
Okay, so all positive right now.
Putin is a monster, a slippery guy.
You got to take that into account.
But I think Trump was handling pretty well.
I'm going to get into some micro in a moment.
That now becomes a fait accompli, I believe.
I think that this ceasefire will happen.
Don't know the time frame.
Okay.
Trump's got good guys over there.
His negotiators are good, in my opinion.
And I'm tough.
All right, talking points memo is my role in all of this.
So St. Patrick said yesterday, I had a green tie on and walked in.
Always, for me, emotional experience when I go to the White House.
I've been there a dozen times now.
It's an incredible.
I mean, when you go to Washington, take that White House tour.
But to get in there and to go to the Oval Office, I mean, it's like crazy for me.
So first thing I talk with the president about was a JFK files.
he knows that I wrote
Killing Kennedy. And I
said, I broached it.
He goes, how are you doing, O'Reilly? And I said,
where are the JFK files?
That's how I introduced myself.
And he goes, what do you mean? I said, you got to put him out.
He goes, you know, I was just thinking about that. When
should I put them out? I said, now. Give me me
I'll put them out. Two hours later,
the announcement was made.
Now, it's
80,000 words.
tomorrow I'll have a little bit of handle on it.
I don't even know where it is now, but I should have it tomorrow.
And he asked me about to Martin Luther King, Junior Files,
and I said, I'd like to see them.
I think you should put that amount as well.
And then he asked me about Epstein.
There's a problem with Epstein, because in the files they have,
there are a lot of names that knew Epstein, but didn't have anything to do with him.
Now, if they release files that have names next to Jeffrey Epstein, those people are going
to get hurt.
People aren't going to delineate.
So I said, look, you can redact that.
I know.
So that's going to take a little bit longer because there are so many names that had lunch
with them or phone call with them, whatever.
So JFK's fait accompli, I'm hoping Martin Luther King, Jr.'s file comes.
soon. And then Epstein, I don't know when it's the least important. Now, last night I was on
News Nation with Leland Vitterd, and we talked about the JFK stuff. Go. Is there anything that's
going to come out that will be the aha moment? Something to prove some kind of conspiracy. No.
I don't believe there's going to be any new gunman or any of that. So why does it matter?
It matters for history. Because if you had the most powerful intelligence agency in the world,
the CIA, tracking a guy named Lee Harvey Oswell, who, without a doubt, killed JFK.
There's got to be a reason why they lost track of him, because they did.
And tomorrow we will have an excellent historian about JFK, along with me.
And if you're interested in this, this is the place to be.
The other thing we discussed is case law.
And case law, as you may remember in 2015, was written up by me.
And it said that if you are a criminal migrant and deported and you come back,
that you get between five and ten years in a federal penitentiary from violating the deportation.
It was based on 32-year-old Kate Steinle.
It was killed walking in Fisherman's War for the father.
by a drug dealer, undocumented criminal, who had been deported five times.
And he shot this young woman to death.
That man is in Mexico now, deported again.
He served time in the USA, but it was horrendous.
Mitch McConnell killed the bill.
He said, oh, I wouldn't have passed anyway.
Ah, you're a big phony.
So what?
You introduce it.
You get it going.
Trump's going to get that bill going, I think.
And this is very personal to me.
All right.
So that's the outline of the entire conversation.
Let's go to Putin and Trump.
I can tell you these things on a factual basis.
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Putin. Okay. It is do not demean him. Do not insult him. Do not be disrespectful to him.
that is Trump's strategy.
It's not that he likes Putin or he's buddies with Putin
or he wants to go to Mar-a-Lago with Putin.
No.
He wants this blood to stop in Ukraine.
And the only person who can make it stop is Putin.
That's it.
Okay.
If you don't accept that, then you don't want to watch me
because that's the truth and that's reality.
Trump does not like Zelensky
doesn't trust him
doesn't like it
that doesn't really matter at this point
because Zelensky's got no power
it's between Trump and Putin
Europe can't you know
Putin in any respect for Europe
Putin wouldn't even take Biden's phone calls
okay
I mean this is where we are
So, while we were talking about Putin and Trump in the cabinet meeting, and when I say we, it
was Musk, it was O'Reilly, and it was three or four other people, I'm not going to name
them because it's not necessary, but they're very smart, high-level people.
Phone rings, and it's the British Prime Minister, Sturmer, and Trump puts them on speaker.
And Trump's grasp of what was happening in Ukraine, it's better than mine.
And now he gets an intel briefing every morning.
Okay, I don't get that.
But he knows.
And Sturmer wasn't pushing him one way or the other.
And Sermor was also talking about the tariffs, and that's a whole different thing.
Because that's chaotic right now.
The terror thing is chaotic.
I think it'll fall into line, but I'm not sure.
But this was on President Trump's mind, as it should be.
All right.
So, again, 90 minutes.
He was kind enough, President Trump was kind enough to allow my son to be in that meeting.
And that is, to me, you know, as a proud father.
and he didn't have to do that.
Trump didn't have to do that.
So, I mean, a kid is learning.
It's an amazing amount.
So then we, you know, after the meeting,
he had to go out to the Kennedy Center.
And the Oval Office looks great.
He redecorated the whole thing, all the portraits,
and boy, I count myself so lucky.
But I'm reporting honestly to you,
and that's why I was there.
And he knows that I'm an honest reporter
because he gets mad at me sometimes
when I, you know, say things he doesn't want.
But not my job.
My job's a report to you.
And that's a memo.
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All right, so 80,000 pages.
We're going to be busy tonight looking at this JFK stuff.
Astronauts supposedly 6 p.m.
They'll be down in the ocean off Florida coast.
Hope so.
Feel bad for these guys.
Butch, Wilmore, and Sonny Williams.
Biden just left them up there, just stranded them up there, didn't care.
You didn't hear anything about them.
Boeing, what a disgrace, Boeing, my God.
Musk had to get him.
SpaceX got him.
I mean, come on.
Cease fire ends.
This is terrible.
So Ned and Yahweh addressed the people of Israel tonight and says,
Look, Hamas is a release in the hostages.
They're building back their weapons base.
They're violating everything they said they would do.
So we'd bomb the hell out of them.
And they did.
I don't know.
You know, Gaza puts out the casualties, and they're never right,
but hundreds were killed on an airstrike this morning
because they're way ahead time over there.
And I don't know if that's ever going to stop.
I don't know. And Trump can't really pay attention to it until he gets this Ukraine thing.
Then they'll flood his own over in Gaza, but that's the latest on it.
And joining us now is a guy who knows a lot about the conflict and everything else.
His name is Josh Hammer, you might know him.
So you author of the brand new book, Israel and Civilization, The Fate of the Jewish Nation, Destiny of the West, out today.
He's also on the first TV, which is our distributor as well.
and we're pleased to have him from Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
Any update on the Gaza stuff that I missed?
Bill, I mean, the ceasefire is obviously over.
The IDF is hammering Gaza right now.
It seems like they are committed to finally seeing this operation through.
My own two cents on this is basically as follows.
The President of the United States, Donald Trump, and his entire team have made very clear to Netanyahu and the Israelis that you have all support of
you could possibly want right now. Trump has basically said, give them hell, make them pay for it there.
He has made very clear that the United States will continue to stand with the Netanyahu government
in Israel diplomatically, militarily, in the international foreign, so forth there. So to me, Bill,
the ball truly is in Netanyahu's court right now. And I am personally very harden to see that the
IDF is returning to the very hard, difficult, albeit wholly necessary work of eradicating the Hamas
cancer from Gaza because there is no solution.
Do you think Hamas ever going to surrender is ever going to stop?
Because I don't think they're ever going to stop.
So that means you've got to kill them all, right?
So look, I don't know exactly what the solution is, Bill.
I do say, I argue in Israel and civilization, that at a bare minimum, it is incumbent
upon the United States and Western civilization at large to convince the Palestinian Arabs
that they have lost the century plus long.
jihad to eliminate the Jews of Israel. Part of this is psychological, part of this is diplomatic,
but you have to actually convince them that they're never actually going to get back this land.
I don't know if that's possible, because they're crazy fanatics. But it was, it was interesting
today that Trump linked part of his conversation with Putin to the exact thing you just brought up,
that apparently Putin agreed that there wasn't going to be any dissolution of Israel and that Putin would
help prevent that, apparently. I mean, you know, but I know that Trump is emotionally invested
in this, and you saw what Trump did to the hoodies in Yemen over the weekend. He's blowing
a hell out of them. But, you know, to me, I'm much more optimistic about Ukraine than I am
about Gaza. Would I be wrong there? Look, Donald Trump takes a very different approach to these
two conflicts. I personally take a very different approach to these two conflicts, because Bill,
I'm a hardheaded foreign policy realist. I look at every hot spot. I look at every
conflict around the world. And I basically ask the following question, what is the national
interest for the United States in this particular conflict? And based on my answer to the
first question, then I ask the second question, which is what, if anything, should we do about it?
And I, like President Trump, have a very different answer to these two particular
conflicts. It's time for the war in Russia and Ukraine to wind down. This thing is going on for
over three years now. Hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people have died.
Millions and millions and millions more from Ukraine have fled the country there.
Bill, it's going to take Ukraine as a country at least a half century, maybe more than that,
to recover from this in terms of getting an economy back, in terms of getting their people back,
in terms of giving people hope for the future to start marrying and having children again there.
This is part of the reason why I have personally been skeptical of Vladimir Zelensky
and his, we will continue this war until we regain every square inch of territory campaign.
because I look at that and I say at what cost, at what cost?
But it's not even going to happen now because Trump's elected.
If Kamala Harris had been elected, then I think Putin would have pushed it.
But he knows that Trump's not going to allow that.
And he knows America's more powerful in Russia.
And he doesn't want a nuclear war over this thing.
That's why Putin's giving a little bit.
Now, look, I hate to use the cliche we'll see because that's what all these idiot television people do
because they don't know anything. I know a lot. But I think that there's a framework there
where Putin's going to try to walk away and tell his own people, hey, we want. Look, we got
Donbos, and we got, you know, remote regions or whatever he's going to tell him. But in Gaza,
these people are so hateful, I don't ever think they're going to stop. I just don't ever think
they're going to stop. And that means that every day, innocent Israeli people are in danger.
And innocent Palestinians, too, although I don't feel so sorry for them because they should have tried to overthrow these Hamas people rather than cooperating with them.
I know it's fearful. I understand all right.
I want to play you a montage that my staff put together and get your opinion on this.
I believe that the leftist media in America, I believe two things.
They don't like Israel in general.
They see Israel as a fascist nation.
This is the progressive left in America.
And they don't want a ceasefire in Ukraine because Trump would get credit for that.
Roll the tape.
One thing is becoming clear now.
Mr. Trump admires Mr. Putin.
I don't think there's any floor to his subservience to him.
First, there is indeed a lot of land that's different in Ukraine today because Russia illegally invaded a sovereign country.
Donald Trump, the American president's suggestion that any.
of it should be, quote, divided up with Vladimir Putin is an undemocratic, unprecedented hot take
from a sitting American president.
Trump's views are completely out of step with the views of most Americans.
But on this issue, he doesn't, it appears to me that he does not care much that he is so
out of step with Americans.
He views himself in Vladimir Putin as sort of bonded in victimhood.
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I mean, these people, A, they're dishonest
because they don't have a solution to stopping this Ukraine war.
You ask, well, what's your solution?
They don't have one.
So that means it goes on and on and on in the United States
just because billions and billions of dollars.
over there. And so does the EU. Because you can't let Putin just run wild and take the country
over. I mean, that would be, China would love that. You know, the reverberations of that would
just be incredible. So these leftist progressives, they hate Trump so much. They would rather
see thousands of people die than to support Trump's ceasefire vision. Am I wrong?
Well, Bill, to support a ceasefire would be to give Donald Trump a tremendous diplomatic achievement.
So first of all, I think a lot of people on the left simply do not support diplomacy or any kind of off ramp here
because they don't want to give Donald Trump the ability to have a globally recognized diplomacy achievement to his name.
I mean, think about the Abraham Accords, thinking of the Middle East topic there.
I mean, the Abraham Accords were a transformative generation-defining peace agreement that Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu were able to broker between Israel
in the UAE, Bahrain, Morocco, Sudan, 2020,
in any other generation, any other president, Phil,
you know, that would have been a Nobel Peace Prize-worthy event here.
So I think the left does not want to give Donald Trump
a similar opportunity for a Nobel Peace Prize-worthy event.
Presumably, they would only deny him the prize-get-again.
You're so dishonest.
Why don't you say that, then?
Just say that instead of hiding behind all this garbage.
Final question for you.
You have invested a lot of emotion.
in Israel, and I respect that, but I don't know under a guy like Netanyahu if it can ever be
Dayton. Are you optimistic?
Look, Benjamin Netanyahu is a student of history.
Is there someone who has done the reading, so to speak, there?
I think his moment is now or never.
he's the longest serving leader in Israeli history.
He has led his whole life, and he has proclaimed that he will never let Iran get nuclear
weapon, that he will never let the Palestinian Arabs commit various acts of jihad.
Well, tragically, October 7th did happen under his watch now.
And again, Bill, as you and I were saying earlier in the conversation,
President Trump has gone all that he has made extraordinarily clear that Bibi Netanyahu and Israel,
the ball is in their court there.
So there is really an extraordinarily high amount of pressure on Prime Minister Netanyahu,
who's something that he is quite familiar with,
for better or for worse.
But he has a lot of pressure on him
to actually finish the job in Gaza once and for all.
I'm cautiously optimistic that they will do it,
but I'm not certain.
We'll add someone.
All right, the book is Israel and Civilization,
the author of Josh Hammer.
We wish you very good luck with it, Josh.
Thanks for helping us out tonight.
My pleasure.
Thank you guys so much.
Let's see.
What do we want to say next?
I love this story.
So it's going to come out, and you heard it here first, that Joe Biden was incapacitated mentally
from pretty much the beginning of its administration.
And you'll see that in books.
You'll see it in documents, freedom of information.
It'll come out.
One of the things was he signed a lot of pardons with Autopin.
Okay.
Now President Trump says those pardons are invalid.
Here's what Trump says, quote.
Okay?
The parties of Sleepy Joe Biden gave to the unselect committee of political thugs.
Many others hereby declared void vacant had no further force or effect because of the fact they were done by auto-pent.
In other words, Joe Biden did not sign that, but more importantly, he did not know anything about them.
That could be true, but you can't prove it. That's the problem.
Now, the New York Times, which hates Trump, and here's what they say.
Quote, Mr. Trump was specifically took aim at the pardons granted to members of the Bipartisan House Committee
that investigate January 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol, offered no evidence for his claim.
And there is no power in the Constitution of case law to undo a pardon.
But Mr. Trump's assertion, which embraced a baseless right-wing conspiracy theory
about former President Joseph R. Biden Jr. was a new escalation of his anti-democratic rhetoric.
I don't know if it's baseless there, buds over there in the Times, you know.
I think there's plenty of evidence that Biden didn't know what he was doing.
And there'll be more, but we'll keep that in abeyance.
NBC News, Paul, the fair poll on the sample.
Do you approve or disapprove of Donald Trump's handling of the economy?
Approved 44, disprove 54, that is the stock market.
Stock market is a lot of people nervous because of the sheriffs.
Second question, do you approve or disprove the job?
Donald Trump's doing his president.
Approved 47, disprove 51.
About even, okay?
Third, we'd say yes or no.
The President Trump is bringing real change direction of the country.
Right kind of change, 46, wrong kind, 30.
Then why is this a job approval rating underwater?
Trump is not bringing change 21.
Is that right?
I don't know where you live, but let me know.
Another poll, this is CNN.
Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion in the Democratic Party?
Favorable 29.
Those are all the people that watch the view.
Unfavorable, 54, whopping.
Never heard of the Democratic Party.
1%.
Those are the people who live in San Francisco and no opinion, 16%.
Okay.
Fannie Willis.
Hello, Fannie.
Remember that BG saw Fannie?
Be tender.
Fannie's got to pay $54,000 for not being cooperative with President Trump's lawyer, Ashley Merchant.
So, Judge Rachel Krause in Georgia said, hey, Fannie, you got a pony up 54 as a fine for not being an honest DA in Fulton County.
See, Fannie at one time thought she's going to get him.
Now, done.
And I predicted it.
Smart life.
This is a fascinating story.
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They looked at people who live in the cold parts of the United States, like me,
and the people who live in the warm sunbelt. And they found out that if you live in hot places,
Arizona, Texas, Florida, the South, whatever.
You age faster, okay?
And because you age faster, you got more heart problems
and all kinds of stuff like that.
You age 14 months faster on average than people who live in the cooler areas.
I believe this, because I did live in Miami, all right, a couple of years.
And it was, and now I'm Irish, so my DNA is 60 degrees, 50 degrees, and rainy.
That's what I'm in.
And when I was 90 and 90 heat, humidity, I was like dying.
But I think that's right.
I think that if you live in a cooler climate, your body doesn't deteriorate as quickly.
But I'm not a scientist, but this is a smart life deal.
If you want to live for a long time, I don't particularly.
want to. I'm not. If I get debilitated, I'm out of here. All right. I'll go to Switzerland. I don't
know. But I don't want to be a burden on anybody. I don't. I'm really spry for my age, and I
thank God for that. But do I want to hang on to be 105? No. But if you do, you got to move to
Minnesota. Okay, smart life. Chuck Schumer's got a new book out. He won't come on this program
because he couldn't possibly stand up to my questioning.
It's about anti-Semitism, and he was going to do a book tour.
He's going to go to Baltimore and a few other cities,
but he canceled it because all the liberals are mad at him.
And they're yelling at him because he compromised on the spending bill.
But you should have.
You don't want to create this mass chaos when you have a September date
where you can put in all what you want and explain it.
Do it then.
It's not like the federal government is, you know,
going to go over the cliff between now and September.
So Truman is the right thing,
but the progressives who want to destroy the whole system,
they don't like them anymore.
And those are the people who buy his book.
No conservative is going to buy Chuck Truman's book.
No independence are going to buy his book.
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Stay in history.
One of my favorite places in the world,
I.E. becomes a state. President Dwight Eisenhower, a science of paperwork to get Hawaii in the Union. Sixty-six years ago today, Hawaii, a million and a half people out there. Eight major islands, 137 little islands. So if you cruise around, it's not easy cruising those waters because the ocean is a little rough. It's not the Caribbean. So you got a million and a half out there. It's 2,400 miles from the U.S. mainland.
is a trek that's further than New York where I am now to Miami okay that's how far out
there why is and there's six hours behind East Coast time but it is a stunningly
beautiful place but it's too it's so expensive it costs an average of two hundred
sixty thousand dollars a year to live in Hawaii for a family all right
So groceries, 30,000 a year.
Housing, 66,000.
Health care, about 10,000, 9,500,
according to go banking rates.
Why?
Because you've got to import everything.
Everything's got to come out.
And Hawaii is the most liberal state new union.
Now here's why.
So the history of Hawaii's indigenous people
ran the place until William McKinley in 1900.
And McKinley basically made a deal with the chieftains of Hawaii.
He said, look, we need our naval ports out there, and we'll take care of you.
Okay, the federal government will take care of you.
And that's how the indigenous people signed their alliance with us.
And then it was Pearl Harbor and all that.
But most Native Hawaiians can't afford to live there.
Can't.
And so the entitlements, the federal and state money, keep them alive.
And that's what the Democratic Party champions.
So no matter who the Democrat is, they're going to win Hawaii.
Four electoral votes, I believe it is?
Maybe, is it three or four?
I don't know.
But Hawaii 66 years ago became a state.
I've been there, I'd say eight times.
I mean it is absolutely you got to go you got to put it on your list it's a great place to visit back with the final thought in a moment all right final thought today I'll be on news nation with Cuomo 8 o'clock tonight
stephen a will be there the preview of our show all three of us are going to be at westbury music fair March 30th Sunday 3 p.m.
VIP tickets were sold out and then we opened up 15 more seats for the best tickets in now.
house. And we have other great seats, too. The VIPs are the most expensive. But we sold those out
first, interestingly enough. And we want you to consider this show that you'll never forget it.
Because I know what the show is going to be. Those guys don't. But I'll give them a little preview
tonight. And we'll see if they have an A game, Cormor and Stephen A, because I'm bringing mine.
March 30th, Westbury Long Island, Three Americans Show.
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