Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - We'll Do It LIVE! — Confronting O'Reilly

Episode Date: September 17, 2026

Bill's latest soon to be best seller, "Confronting America: What Has to Change" is now available everywhere books are sold.  So, in a special edition of We'll Do It LIVE! Eric Bolling takes over ...the show to ask Bill about his book, America's cultural problems, how to fix the country, and to grill your humble correspondent about some of his iconic encounters with journalists, politicians and celebrities.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, I'm Stu Bergier, and I've got a brand new podcast that looks at the world and current events through the lens of prediction markets. These markets can turn elections, policy fights, and economic data, and cultural moments into actual tradable probabilities, and then over time reveal patterns that traditional commentary often misses. It's predictable with Stu, where we're making this unpredictable world a little more predictable. Be sure to download and subscribe today wherever you get your podcast. Don't miss a minute.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Not protecting anybody. The book hinges around a change in American culture. I think I might have killed them. I never was told what to do or what to say. I lifted up Barack Obama's bodyguard and threw the man about 10 to 12 feet. Okay, so here we are with We'll Do It Live, but I don't have a guest. Well, I do have a guest, but it's me. I sat in for Bill 200 plus times at Fox News.
Starting point is 00:01:09 And this is the first time I'm doing it with, we'll do it live on Bill's podcast. And boy, what a guest we had today. We had to do it right. We had to do it right. You had to do that intro. I had to do the intro. Otherwise, what am I doing here? I'll just be another guest.
Starting point is 00:01:22 I don't know what you're doing here. Well, I have the honor. You called me and said, listen, I'd like you to interview me. I bought my book on my show. And I said, absolutely, let's do it. But I got to do it right. So we're at, we'll do it live with Bill O'Reilly, special guest, who is the brand new, brand new, soon-to-be best-selling author of his 21st best-selling
Starting point is 00:01:43 year-times best-selling book. Bill, hopefully. Bill, why this book, why now? I read the book. I consumed the book in maybe two or three sittings. It was fantastic. Fast read. I found it a lot about your life.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Did you intend to write the book about Bill O'Reilly's life starting from a very young Bill O'Reilly in town to where you are now. Bowling, it's eyewitness history. So you've known me why. I'd say you know me 25, 30 years. Okay. 25 plus, yeah. And I'm like 112 now.
Starting point is 00:02:15 No, you look great. All right. And so I've seen a lot of stuff. 90 countries, wars. I haven't seen famine and pestilence, but you know what I'm talking about. So I decided, because we usually write history, I'll write history from what I actually saw.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Nobody told me. No anonymous sources. This is what I saw. And then I applied it to all the problems we have in America and how we can solve them based upon my interactions with the problem. Solvers, the problem makers, the mis-es-refer. discreants, the good people. All are named everybody's name, right? Oh, absolutely. Not protecting anybody. No, you didn't hold back. There were a few names we'll get to some of them and let it fly.
Starting point is 00:03:15 So it's a little bit unique. Most people write autobiographies already did that with a bowl fresh piece of humanity, which is one of my favorite books when I was a little kid and all that. But this one is it goes from problem solving to problem solving to problem solving. And if you read the book, maybe there are some things you're not interested in. You don't know what I'm in. You just go with it to the problem that you're interested in solving. I have the solutions. So you start early, your childhood in Levitown, you talk about your parents a lot, quite quite a bit. Your father seemed to be a military guy, kept you in line that way. Mom seemed to work very hard. You credit them with the success you've had because you had some
Starting point is 00:04:12 trials on the way. I want to get into this career, this journalism career. But early on, especially like some of your stories, Bill, did you guys know that Bill saying Acapello with Billy Joel as a 14-year-old in 11-year-old? Tell us him. Right. Well, I'll get to Billy in a minute. He was a neighborhood guy. So he's raised in my neighborhood, and we knew him. So the book hinges around a change in American culture. So after World War II, millions of military people come back from Europe and Japan, and most of them got married.
Starting point is 00:04:50 And they set up traditional homes based upon what their parents did, my grandparents, who experienced the Great Depression, my grandfather was a hero in World War I, there was a tradition in America of how you behave. This is what we do. Was it any descent until Vietnam? So from 46, all the way into 67, 68, the moray, social moray was,
Starting point is 00:05:27 you are expected to do certain things, like not shoplift, not sell heroin, not beat up your sister. You're expected not to do them. And if you do them, all hell is going to break loose on you. All right? We got to get back to that. Now, there's a big caveat with African Americans and other minorities. people. They didn't participate to the extent that the white society did in leave it to be verb father knows. I don't even know that you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, I do. I do. There's sitcoms where everybody was immaculately dressed. Alsome white. Right. Picket fence out. The African American, they were shut out of good living quarters, the Levitt brothers who built a big development on Long Island where I was raised.
Starting point is 00:06:27 They wouldn't sell the blanks. And then in the South it was worse. So a lot of people say, well, look, we don't want to get back to that. Of course you don't. You take the strengths of the tradition that made us the most powerful and the greatest, in my opinion, country on earth, and you build upon those strengths. Today, and this is one of the reasons I wrote the book, trying to tear them down.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Trying to tear this country apart. Before we get to that giant leap from the original mores to where we are today, you mentioned, I believe you said, the 60s era came and it brought drugs, and that really changed the personality of America. It opened the door for some of the nefarious things that are going on and to grow into what we are right now. You were a young man in the 60s. How did you steer clear of that and stay on the right path?
Starting point is 00:07:21 Two reasons. And Billy Joel, you mentioned him, so I didn't want to just leave him dangling. He was a neighborhood guy, a Levittown guy. He lived in a Hicksville section of Levittown. And his father split very unusual, very unusual. His mother was very hardworking mom. And Billy had a crew, and they were primarily musicians. And my crew were primarily, I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:07:52 We didn't, you know, we played stickball. We did all the things you do in New York. So I intersected with Billy Joel, but he was always different because he didn't have a dad. You can imagine this. Today, I think more than 50% of African American kids don't have dads. It may be 50% of American children. I think that number. I think the stats a little lower for Asians and whites.
Starting point is 00:08:21 But anyway. So I'm a kid and I am at a working class college, Maris College, in Biggipsy, New York. All kids like me. There were a few African Americans, but not many. And there's a drinking who made Animal House look like a sober outfit. Drinking, drinking, drinking. I never got involved with that. I was playing sports.
Starting point is 00:08:49 I thought it was stupid. it. I didn't want to throw up on the floor. And the kids who did it, the students who did it, they're idiots. You just want to get away from them. So I go, why am I doing this? And I knew enough about my family to know there was alcoholism in my family. I'm not going to bother with that. I go to London, my third year in school, in high school, in college. I go to London, University of London. I come back all hell's broke. Sex, drugs, rock and roll. Jerry Garcia, the doors, you name it. All of a sudden, boom, all the traditions are under fire.
Starting point is 00:09:31 How you look, long hair, I'm smoking pot if I want to. And my father and mother were like, they didn't have trouble with my sister and I, because we never really went into that. But a lot of kids in the neighborhood, particularly with the drugs, wrecked them. And the parents didn't know what to do. And society changed. It changed real fast. Now, I went back.
Starting point is 00:09:58 You know what? Brought it back disco. You can imagine. It went from crazy Bernie Sanders. Let's move to Vermont and eat turnips to disco. Bill, you can't ruin my image and my thought. Again, I've known Bill 25 years, sat in from... Bill O'Reilly.
Starting point is 00:10:18 was not dancing disco in the 80s. Yeah, I was. If you want to, oh my goodness, that's not in the book, Bill. You failed to put that in the book. I didn't put in the book. There are some things that have to be private. But if you want to meet girls, I got you. Yeah. Can we jump to? But the reason, let me make the point. The reason I'm making that point is how fast. It was, you know, in the space of seven, eight years, you went from tradition to crazy power to the people to crazy disco in one country. Okay? So now when I'm looking at problems that need to be solved, I'm not seeing that kind of
Starting point is 00:11:05 evolution anymore. I'm seeing it dig it in. Okay? We're digging in. This is what we want and we're not going to get out of there. And that's another reason I wrote the book. I said, okay, you want to do again? Diggin smart.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Don't be an idiot running around voting for Al Sayyid, who hates this country. What is that all about? You want to vote for some crazy leftists? They're stacked up. You don't want to vote for people who want to destroy our whole infrastructure. There's a point in the book where you talk about Obama, and I personally believe that was another inflection point, but you talk relatively positively about your relationship. I want to get to that in a minute, but one of the most fascinating parts of the book, and you spend some time on it, so it means a lot to you,
Starting point is 00:11:55 I guess. You're a young guy, you're teaching for a while, you'm not really sure this is it for you. Someone calls you, a TV producer says, like you to try out to do this on air stuff, and you liked it, but the CBS part, you get a call from CBS, you take the job, you're at top of the world, and then you find yourself in a war zone or a ride. zone and you're developing a story. Tell us about that story. Tell us what happened. Because that I can tell that imprinted upon your personality. Sure. It changed everything in the workplace. So the problem is how do you conduct yourself in the marketplace? How do you make money? How do you support a family? All right? Because now it's all affordability. All right?
Starting point is 00:12:41 So I give some examples of how I did it. So you're absolutely right. I get a job at CBS News. I cover the war in El Salvador. Then they send me down to Argentina, where hell's breaking loose in Buenos Aires, because of the Falkland thing. And I put myself at risk, physical risk.
Starting point is 00:13:03 A lot of guns, okay? and I thought I was the greatest guy. My reports were really gutsy and good, and they stole them. Well, you had a gun pointed at you at one point. Yeah, and that was a riot in Buenos Aires. And a guy named Bob Schiefer and Dan Rather's pal stole the story. Stole it. And I was so stunned.
Starting point is 00:13:35 I'd never seen anything like that before. I had to leave CBS because I couldn't work under those conditions. Well, you confronted rather at some point, didn't you? Yeah, so I went to, after that happened, and it took five guys to get me off Schaefer. I think I might have killed him. I mean, you know, I was beyond angry about that. What he did was I went out and got all the tape and all stuff that was going on, bullets flying, Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:08 And then I came back to what they call a bureau in C Sheridan Hotel in Buenos Aires. And he comes over and goes, give me your tape and notes. I said, for what? He goes, well, I'm doing the story tonight for Dan. I said, now you're not, I did this story. Where were you? Where were you? You could have been out there.
Starting point is 00:14:28 He's on the rooftop. I don't know where he was. But he was in my zone. I had two crews because I knew all hell all hell was going. to break loose. All right. And then he runs up to the top of the hotel and cuts a stand-up so you see him on TV with Dan. Like he's the big macho guy in the middle of all this fracas. I couldn't believe it. And the reason I put that story in the book is you're going to get hosed. Working for someone. You're going to get hosed. Okay? And this is your,
Starting point is 00:15:04 what happens when you get hosed. You fall apart. you can punch out Bob Sheffer and go to jail. There's a million ways you can do it. And I go over some of the ways that aren't going to hurt you more. It is a problem-solving book because most of us are dependent on the dollar. We have to earn it. And we're in corporations or whatever that aren't going to treat us fairly much of the time. What do you do?
Starting point is 00:15:36 that's why I put that story in. So you mentioned you needed money. And this is one leap I'm trying to figure out. And you kind of explain it here, but I'd like you to expand on a fascinating situation. So you are a purveyor of journalism the right way. You're on the street. You're in the middle of the ride.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Bullets are flying. You want credit for the story. Someone steals from you. It's BS. You tell the boss. He says, shut up or you're going to be a boss. Well, rather him say, shut up. He's too slick for that.
Starting point is 00:16:03 I said to rather. What if this happened to you? when JFK was assassinated, because that's what made, rather. He was a Dealey Plaza phoning in what was happening with Kennedy after he was shot. What somebody else stole that story from him? And I figured that would get a little bit of emotion out of the man, right? He could identify with the young guy who just got, couldn't care less. But there was a caveat to that.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Hi, I'm Stu Bergier, and I've got a brand new podcast that looks at the world and current events through the lens of prediction markets. These markets can turn elections, policy fights, and economic data, cultural moments into actual tradable probabilities, and then over time reveal patterns that traditional commentary often misses. It's predictable with Stu, where we're making this unpredictable world a little more predictable. Be sure to download and subscribe today wherever you get your podcast. Don't miss a minute. When I hit it big with the factor, I ran into him. I didn't punch him bowling. I did not punch it.
Starting point is 00:17:14 And he looked at me, you know, and he goes, O'Reilly, for you, it's one triumph after another. That was a good line. I was hoping he'd save that for people to have to read that line. So you're there. Now you realize Bernie Goldberg tells you better get out of here. This isn't going to work for you here because of you standing up for yourself. Right. How do you make that leap being the, you know, the journalist that you want to be, and you are,
Starting point is 00:17:36 to inside edition because it's, you know, more news, magazine-ish type content. But you said there's a reason for it. You want to... Yeah, I mean, I was... My progression was that I was, did very well in local news
Starting point is 00:17:52 in Boston in particular, because I'm very aggressive on... I know that's hard to believe, but I'm very aggressive on the street in my interviews and all of that. And I rose. And then the CBS thing just, totally whacked me.
Starting point is 00:18:08 Okay? I said, what am I going to have to own a bakery now? Is that what I'm going to have to do? All right? So, and this always happens. I believe in a higher power. So I go back to Boston after this craziness of CBS news to work for the CBS affiliate in Boston. And once again, I rise and do a good job. and I then became a correspondent for ABC News. And I remember the interview with Rune Arledge, the guy who founded Monday night football, stone cold, like this, brilliant, brilliant man.
Starting point is 00:18:51 And I said, I was Mr. Arlidge, look, I appreciate you flying me down from Boston, and appreciate your interest. You're going to bait, they call it big footing when they steal a story from you, it's big footing. That's the term. You're going to bigfoot me? I'm going to kill somebody. It said, don't hire me. You don't want felonies in the building. All right? That's exactly what I said to the man. And he said, we won't do that to you. Not only didn't they do that to me, okay, I wouldn't work with a producer.
Starting point is 00:19:22 And you can see how popular that would make me at ABC News. I didn't want anybody out there but me. I can handle it. Because I didn't trust them. I didn't trust these people. So I'm doing well at ABC News, right? 100 times I'm on World News Tonight with Peter Jennings. 100 times in two years. And Jennings liked me because he liked my spunk or something, I don't know. I got a call from Alves, Roger Ailes, who at that time was looking around to start the cable news era.
Starting point is 00:20:02 CNN had already been on. And Ells knew me, and I subbed for him a few times on his show on NBC. So then I went back to Boston. I went back to ABC, and I got an offer from Inside Edition, triple a salary, triple, and I could cover any story in the world. I've been in 90 countries. Any story in the world written into my contract, O'Reilly can go, and we'll pay for it. You're going to turn that job down?
Starting point is 00:20:47 No, but it wasn't journalism. It was more... No, it was. I didn't change. We had dopes on the staff, but I was kind of the managing editor. I just cut their stuff out. I remember one guy wanted to do a topless donut shop story. I said, no, we're not doing it.
Starting point is 00:21:07 You can bring the donuts in, but I don't want any topless people bringing them in. All right, you know me. And then Al's was watching all this. He was following me. So that after I left Inside Edition, I went to Harvard. I went to Kennedy School to kind of burnish my credentials a little bit. And he called me up there and said, and when you come down, we're doing a new thing.
Starting point is 00:21:31 And I knew Wales, of course, because I had sub for him. So I came down. And then he handed me a scenario. And I took the job because I knew that he was a genius, else, which he was, and that I could get rid of the garbage. You said you developed the factor while at Harvard. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:58 So when I'm at Harvard and I got the call initially from Al's, I went, hmm, what are they up to? And the technology had then evolved that you could have news every second. And that's what he wanted to tap into. And he knew that 50% of the country was underrepresented because of Dan Rather and those people who were, were leftists. And he knew that if he put on a traditional voice, I was never conservative. When did you, well, you still don't call yourself conservative, right? You call yourself right-of-center
Starting point is 00:22:36 conservative? No, I'm a traditional god. That's what I am. And I'm problem-solver when I analyze the news. So I said, Dale, this was a funny meeting. I go into his office and I go, okay, what's going on? What he got for me? And he goes, well, we want you to do a show. I said, isn't that funny? I have a show that I've absolutely outlined. He goes, I don't need to look at it. He didn't even look at it. Yeah, that's good.
Starting point is 00:23:06 He knows. Yeah, he knew. He knew. He knew I could do it. If you remember in his office, he had probably 10 different screens, every single network on, and he left the volume off because he knew who was going to be good without having to hear what they had to say. Then he turned it on, make sure you weren't saying some crazy stuff.
Starting point is 00:23:21 But he was an amazing. judge of people. Of talent. Of talent. So Fox starts. You immediately rise. You were basically, I guess, the workhorse for the Fox News Channel brand becoming as powerful as it became in the first five.
Starting point is 00:23:41 I think he beat CNN in the first five years or so. Yeah, we beat Larry King. We whacked him. And I told my staff, I said, we're going to knock him out. because he's not even listening to the answers to the questions. Larry had a sheet of paper, questions are written on it. Hey, what do you say? You could have said, hey, Larry, you know, I have leprosy.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Larry, whatever. I'm, where are you from? So we knocked him out fast. And then we grew and grew and grew and grew and made it into a colossus. And a lot of it had to do with me being obnoxious. Because people hadn't seen that for a while. And one of my biggest fans, and Mike Wallace.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Because I was just like him. And so it worked out great for me. And I never was told what to do or what to say, ever. In my 20 years plus in that place. So now someone sees your success. I can't remember what network. Says, Bill, come over to us or come back to us. NBC.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Now, you've been at CBS, you've been to ABC. Now, NBC says, Jack Welsh. Oh, Jack. There you go. Gee. You know him. I do. So I get a call from Jack at home.
Starting point is 00:25:08 I said, I did you give my number? He goes, oh, we want to hire you. I said, for what? You go, prime time. I said, prime time, what? Am I going to be on Webster? What do you want me to do? And he said, no, what did you do what you're doing now, but we just pay you a way more money.
Starting point is 00:25:29 And I was respectful. I listened to what they had to say, but I never seriously. And I have a picture Welsh with a little note he sent to me, classy guy. He really was. I was where NBC just collapsed. Okay. They were an honest network back then. But I didn't take out of stay with Fox.
Starting point is 00:25:50 So you stay with Fox You blow up The world becomes Fox The world according to Bill O'Reilly at Fox And then the liberal side has their Three or four different personalities But you get to sit across the table And interview some of the most fascinating people in the world
Starting point is 00:26:07 Murderers, Presidents Scoundrels, all of them You say you were obnoxious But you were also prepared You didn't give any easier interviews Who was your best? did you interview the, let me say it this way. Now it was the most interesting interview. Who did you interview the best? What was a difficult interview that you were concerned about, but it was end up
Starting point is 00:26:29 being something even better than you thought? Obama. Because he and I are opposites about how we believe America should be run. And I explain that in confronting America. He sees it as I owe the country, because the country made it possible for me to succeed. That's all Obama sees it. So if I'm wealthy, I owe 50-60-7% of my money into D.C. P. IRS. I say, you never helped me at all. Nobody ever helped me. I worked hard. I succeeded. I'll pay my fair share of taxes. I have a charitable foundation. We give a lot of money away to worthy causes, but don't tell me the federal government is responsible for the factor being the most watched cable news show in the world, because it's not. So we were like this,
Starting point is 00:27:31 log-aheads. So I had an interview for the Super Bowl, pre-super Bowl ceremonies, live at the White House. And I interviewed him three times in his terms. And, you know, I walk in, his staff is like, they got the cross is out like this, you know. It's like Dracula. How did he get here? But Obama was always very respectful, even when I took his bodyguard and physically threw him away from my camera shot. Okay, that's in the book.
Starting point is 00:28:08 I lifted up Barack Obama's bodyguard and threw the man about 10 to 12 feet because he was blocking our shot. whereas a guy named Bill Shine, second in command, Al, who calls me about five minutes there. He goes, you better get out of New Hampshire. There's going to be a warrant's word out for your arrest. You threw him out a couple of times. I think he got in the way of one of your shots
Starting point is 00:28:30 and you're just trying to get to the candidate. When he was a candidate, I mean, he was blowing up. Yeah, that wasn't the Super Bowl thing. But Obama knew about it because he saw his guy flying by him. Maybe that's why he respected your, you know, Cahoney's, as it was a... All I know is that the presidential interviews are the hardest ones to do. Do it live, which is the name in his program. Do it live? It's unbelievable. The depression... And Obama can do eight minutes on your socks bowling. He can filibuster eight minutes on your socks. No, he's a talker. He's... He's... He's...
Starting point is 00:29:08 So, I have... And I... Here's what I did. I said, Miss President, You and I have something in common, which I don't know if you want to hear that. I said, we're both blowviators, then he laughed. I said, when I go like this, button it, because I'm coming in, are you a follow-up question or something like that? I don't want to have to interrupt you on live worldwide TV. I don't want to have to do that. But I will if you don't let me in.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Hi, I'm Stubergear, and I've got to be. a brand new podcast that looks at the world and current events through the lens of prediction markets. These markets can turn elections, policy fights, and economic data, cultural moments, into actual tradable probabilities, and then over time reveal patterns that traditional commentary often misses. It's predictable with Stu where we're making this unpredictable world a little more predictable. Be sure to download and subscribe today wherever you get your podcast. Don't miss a minute. And I had to do it twice. And he did. He gave you away.
Starting point is 00:30:17 And he wrapped it. And I got my questions in. And that was such a complicated dynamic being in there. And you can't believe his staff. He's like, got to get this guy out of here. Me. If you do it. And one of the things I have in the book is never compromise your belief system for anything.
Starting point is 00:30:40 if you want to solve a problem, the problem was me doing a good interview with Barack Obama. That was the problem I was facing. Okay, because you've seen some of those interviews, you know, bad. It was so hyped prior to the interview. What's Bill O'Reilly's going to be the same tough journalist that doesn't let anything happen on the... And it came out great.
Starting point is 00:31:02 It did. But I got mail from both sides saying, I'm a fascist dog. That's perfect. Yeah, I always get it. And he did things right. But for the reader of confronting America, it's not worth compromising your principles. Don't be obnoxious about it, okay? Just do what you think is right.
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Starting point is 00:32:43 You just said obnoxious. It jogs, follows, leads right into the next topic. Wealthy people. You say there are great wealthy people and there are people who are obnoxious about their wealth. You point out Jeff Bezos being extremely wealthy but obnoxious. And then there are others who handle their wealth in a different way that you...
Starting point is 00:33:01 Buffet. Warren Buffet. So you have two different size. What's the mess? I mean, you're a very well- The aisle. Where do you fall? Very wealthy? Oh, I would say your... I would have a yacht. I'm not... No Ferrari. It doesn't mean your bank account doesn't show a massive number. Maybe just... On thrifty. You're thrifty. Okay, so you make some money, but you allow to enjoy your money too, right? You can drive it next car.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Yeah, but money never drove me. I wanted to be paid fairly. But I never... I'm not a material guy. I mean, I don't have a a lot of jewelry. I don't have any jewelry. I don't do that. And that's from my Spartan upbringing, because we didn't have anything. And I say, you know, I was a happy kid. I didn't need your line a bowl. So what I decided to do very early on in my life is protect myself. And the only way in this country that you can protect yourself is by having money. Not massive amounts of money. but enough money to buy insurance, to hire a lawyer if you need it, do you have a good doctor, you have got to have money. That was number one, okay?
Starting point is 00:34:18 So I was going to assemble as much money as possible, so my family and I would be protected. And now we see that most Americans live in paycheck to paycheck. They don't save the money. They buy, you know, I'm with stupid T-shirts. I don't think the person next to you is stupid if you buy a t-shirt, if you get my drift. They waste money. They're impulse buyers. Respect it.
Starting point is 00:34:46 It can protect you. This is capitalist society. And that's what we're having now, because the radical left doesn't want it. They went to government to tell you exactly what you can have, what you can do, and when you can do it. Crail to the Gray. Bill, you made money. You were doing very well. I think there's a fascinating story in here.
Starting point is 00:35:04 you wanted to give back and you tried to raise a billion dollars yeah for for a cause a really worthy cause and it had to do with paul mccartney and the beetles and you got this is the best this is the best story in the book i'm not going to give it away because i want people to read the book and if you do read a book it will be worth your while but just to say this Obama had a program called brothers keeper Obama understood that if you were a black kid with no father, a mother who was beleaguered by whatever, maybe being raised by your grandmother, that you had this much of a shot to make it legitimately. He understood that. One of the things that I learned because I was a big brother, and I had three kids that I mentored, was that can mean
Starting point is 00:36:00 everything. If you have a mentor, somebody who protects you, somebody to guide you. So President Obama and I got together in the White House and said, look, I said to him, I can make this huge. And you know, you know, okay, like that right now. So I did. I got entertainers. I got television people, I got corporations, one billion dollar per year. You got Giant Stadium with Woody Johnson. Right. You were ready to go. Right. Ready to go. And the bureaucracy killed it.
Starting point is 00:36:43 And it was right at the feet of probably the most famous musician in the world. How about that for a tease bowl? You got to read the story. You got to read the book. I mean, it's wild. How is it? How we didn't, and why a billion dollars wasn't raised for young people? It's crazy. Speaking of celebrities, you spend a lot, for whatever reason, you like Los Angeles. Like the Dodgers.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Not anymore. Okay, but you spend a lot of time there. There's some great stories of Bill O'Reilly interacting with Jack Nicholson at a Lakers game, of Bill O'Reilly hanging out with Warren Beatty and Bennett Benning at a cocktail. How does Bill O'Reilly find himself with some of the most liberal and progress? aggressive, let's call them, celebrities. Because I don't, I don't look at it that way. These people can teach me stuff.
Starting point is 00:37:35 So if you're successful in your life, there's a reason. There's a reason you're successful. There's no easy pathway here. And because on me, that sounds pretty narcissistic, but because on me, an icon, I'm more of an icon now than I was back. that. I mean, wherever I go is like, you know, I got to eat Levitown. I mean, I'm not, but I got to meet all these people and talk with them and have dinner with them. I thought Annette Benning, who's Warren Beatty's wife, was going to throw her cocktail at me. She aided me so much.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Warren got a kick out of it, okay? And so I would never be inhibited by sitting down with any honest person and seeing what they've been through. That's what I do. You also mentioned, Bill, a lot of these folks that you're going to cocktail parties with, who are perceived as very liberal, progressive, or factor watchers. Sure, because it's action. It was action. The whole show is action, action, action.
Starting point is 00:38:51 And now they have five people sitting around CNN at a table like I. Argued. Yeah. Who are these people? Nobody knows them. Well, I think, and tell me more. And what do you make of that? And we'll see if I'm in charge, they're out the door.
Starting point is 00:39:10 And they're not prepared for anything. What do you make of that? What are you talking about? What do you want me to answer? So, but not us. We were throwing hand grenades. We were making judgments. We were sometimes belittling people.
Starting point is 00:39:26 I try to keep that to a minimum, but, you know, I failed in the Barney Frank stuff and, you know, I'm not perfect. But anyway, I told my staff, and the staff is excellent. I am an excellent staff now. This show is going to whizz by. It's going to be the fastest hour on television and was. If you are 64 years of age or older, here's how you can stop worrying about choosing the right Medicare option. A lot of people feel overwhelmed by Medicare.
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Starting point is 00:42:30 Borrow better. I sat in 200 plus times, really. You know. I would tell you very quick to act all the story. But you didn't tell the audience what I told you. Don't screw it up, bowling. Don't screw it up. So first time I'm sitting in Bill O'Reilly.
Starting point is 00:42:47 I'm the new guy at Fox and he gracious enough to let me. There's a whole thing. Who gets to sit in that seat? It was a huge. It meant you were on your way. You were on the right path. If you were chosen to fill in for O'Reilly, I mean, you couldn't do too good, too,
Starting point is 00:43:02 because if you did too well, the host doesn't want to take as much time off. But if you do just good enough to keep it. That was a man. I'm taking as much time as you give me. But here's a, so I'm sitting, the first one, and everyone's like, they're all nervous. Your staff is nervous.
Starting point is 00:43:16 They're great, great staff. And anything you need, both, you need this, you need this. No, I'm good. I'm good. Just one question. This, you know, caution thing. You know, how do I got to go, is it like this question? And Nate Fredman, one of your producers, comes out of the control room,
Starting point is 00:43:31 stands next to me, he sits down and shares, no bowling. You got to go from way back. Caution, you were about to enter the no spins. And you know where I said down now? Waters. Waters has got it. And what is every mannerism that I had? Everyone.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Waters has. And people. Are you all right with that? Yeah. Yeah. I think it's a compliment. I mean, isn't that stealing the way they stole your story? I'm not there.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Argentina. I'm not there. And you're okay with it. I'm fine with it. I can't stop hearing you when he's doing it. I'm just going to be honest with you. He's the most popular person on Fox News Waters with the Five and his own show. And he was smart enough.
Starting point is 00:44:16 And believe me, I didn't know whether he was going to be smart enough. And I trained him. He's smart enough to take what we made. okay and build on it it's like Rocky 5 you know right if Rocky 1 2 3 4 sometimes the C-boy isn't as good as the dollars we're going for Rocky 5 well all right all right so let's get back to Bill O'Reilly now more present day you're you're very very positive you speak very highly of President Trump you're your close friends New Yorkers you've done very well tell us about the relationship I I
Starting point is 00:44:56 I see a lot of character trait similarities between the two of you. I have Trump in the book for one reason only. I understand the man. And that's frightening. It's frightening to understand Donald Trump. But I do. I understand everything he does, why he's doing it. And so I can explain it in a book called Confronting America
Starting point is 00:45:23 because he is right now. our biggest export when he goes anywhere. It's Trump. Okay. So I first met him when he was running around with Marla Maples. Okay, remember that? Big tabloid thing. And I was on Inside Edition. And if you got Trump, you had to get him. And then subsequently actually went out on a date, a double date with him and Marla, with a very nice woman who was Marla's college roommate. And we went to, ready, a Paula Abdul concert. I'm sorry, what do you do? I'm trapped.
Starting point is 00:46:09 So I went, and I was respectful. We actually met Ms. Abdul, who's going to be a very good entertainer. And since that time, we've stayed in touch. So I understand what he does. That doesn't mean I agree with it all. And I tell him. So when he went into Iran, you may know this. If you watch us, the knows of Ben News.
Starting point is 00:46:33 I said the biggest gamble of his life. Of his life. And that's turned out to be true. Because the dynamic there is very hard to control. And he's used to controlling everything around him, everything can't control these molas and so there's a difference there but I'm proud to say that
Starting point is 00:46:59 he's my friend he's been very kind to my family people don't know that he's a big kindness streak okay great heart I really don't I mean I've seen him in action if you don't know him personally we do but he does very amazing things for people
Starting point is 00:47:19 people who are struggling. They don't see that, though, on television. Bill, we're kind of running out of time, but if I could do this, can we tease a little extra content for the premium members? Sure. Because I want to ask Bill O'Reilly
Starting point is 00:47:30 if there's another Bill O'Reilly in the pipeline. Will there ever be another Bill O'Reilly? I contend there'll never be another Donald Trump, but will there be another Bill O'Reilly? So why don't we save that for the folks? All right, let me just explain to those who are watching around the world.
Starting point is 00:47:44 We have a two-tier here. You've seen the main interview by bowling. And I know. wasn't nearly as good as I am, but come on. That bar is very good. But he did a pretty good job. And now we take a little bit of a break, and then we come back for the Bill O'Reilly premium and concierge members, which are our lifeblood, all right, and they get another 10, 15 minutes. So if you're interested in that program, go to bill o'Reilly.com.

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