Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - We’ll Do It LIVE! — Dr. Mehmet Oz

Episode Date: July 30, 2026

Administrator of the U.S. Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, Dr. Mehmet Oz joins Bill to react to Dr. Anthony Fauci’s refusal to answer questions before a Senate hearing, COVID missteps, va...ccinations, and America’s health concerns.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:56 It is just lined up with garbage. I think it came out of the laboratory. Hey Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to another edition of We'll Do It Live, and we have a very big newsmaker to share with you. I love sharing. Don't you love sharing? I love reaching out and sharing. That's the kind of guy I am.
Starting point is 00:01:24 But let's bring him in right now, Dr. Mamet Oz, who is currently, I'd say the most powerful health official in the country. I mean, it's just my opinion. He has the centers for Medicare and Medicaid services, which seniors are 100% dependent on in the United States. So he's a big guy. And people really, including me, we're confused about the nexus between our own personal situations, health-wise, and the government. And we get a lot of stuff floating around out there. Doctors, you know, we're going to run out of money. We're going to do this.
Starting point is 00:02:04 We're going to do that. But let's begin with the news cycle. Dr. Anthony Fauci shows up to get grilled in the Senate Subcommittee and takes the Fifth Amendment. Did that surprise you? I was surprised. I figured if he's going to show up, he would defend actions that he was for a long time quite prideful about. He was aggressively supported by one side of the aisle, as you saw. But I'm stunned, actually.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Really? Material that was released by Secretary Kennedy was material that was on a government computer. And so by definition, it's owned by the government. I know that to be the case of my computer. And the things she wrote in that computer were released to the committee, as they should be. And many of those seem to confirm our worst fears about what was happening during COVID. Many physicians in us because of the doctor. What were our worst fears?
Starting point is 00:03:03 I mean, everybody didn't want to get it, want to protect themselves and their family, but what was the worst fear in your estimation about COVID? COVID. My biggest concern in our management of COVID was it became politicized, that we told people to do things because it matched the politics of what we desire.
Starting point is 00:03:21 And in particular, some issues that were brought up, ranging from medications that are currently approved in America to be used. For example, well, I won't get into medications, because you can go out in a long round rabbit hole, but you talk about the hydroxychloroquines and ivermectins. Not having arguing that these are effective against COVID, but we would not allow clinical trials to be done on some of these options that were out there. And there was a lot of shaming that was done.
Starting point is 00:03:47 And historically, as a doctor, your talk, treat the problem, prevent it as well. But if you happen to come to someone who's in trouble, do your best to support them. And during COVID, as a clinician, I felt that frequently we were told, just, you know, do what you can do for now, but we're really not going to have anything we can meaningfully do to impact patient and well-being until we have vaccines available. And who knows how many years that could be because normally it takes years. Now, the president was able to push through a vaccine in the first year of the pandemic, which was in itself a remarkable technical feat.
Starting point is 00:04:17 But the fact that there were other possible ways that might have mitigated the symptoms, might have saved lives in the meantime. And it appears that there was an acknowledgement that some of these tools may have been valuable, but they were nevertheless discarded, put to the side. Even things like antivirals, who the heck knows if they work or not, but they weren't really widely touted or discussed. In fact, if you talked about some of these options in that first year or two of the pandemic, you were ashamed. That's not how we practice medicine. And people in medicine don't say follow the science. They say, let's do our best to figure out what the science is, but the science changes
Starting point is 00:04:53 continually, especially in a fast-moving arena like a pandemic. So it was disappointing to see a leader of that endeavor, saying different things to himself in a document he was writing for himself than he was saying to the American people. But as you know, Joe Biden pardoned Fauci, which is why he took the Fifth Amendment, because anything that he did before the pardon, nothing you'd happen to him, okay? But if he were to go in and Rand Paul was hitting him between the eyes and Fauci slips up, then he can be charged with perjury or whatever. He'll still be charged with contempt to Congress, I believe that'll happen.
Starting point is 00:05:35 But I don't think it's going to get anywhere because of the blanket pardon that Biden gave him. So I think that was a strategy on a part of Fauci and his attorneys. Bill, I think you read the tea leaves correctly. I'm sure they thought through this very carefully. They realized what you said to be true. And again, it reflects poorly on at least the decision-making process to, Fauci was using five years ago during the pandemic. Part of the issue here, however, is in the court of public opinion, where do the American people
Starting point is 00:06:06 feel they are? Were they wronged by what government did during COVID, or was it the right thing to do? And you're seeing Democrats and Republicans split on that issue. And a lot of Republicans are very animated by this for understandable reasons. And it doesn't just affect the feelings on Fauci. It affects concerns about the government not being able to take information from different sources and provide some kind of real trustworthy content for Americans to consume. And we're smart people. We see through this honest narrative pretty quickly. And even in the
Starting point is 00:06:39 fearful moments of the beginning of the pandemic, there were already arguments that were arising smothered initially. And as you know, we've talked about this and other venues by tech companies than the other. So we need to have open this course. We need to be able to see what we feel. You can't get penalized or isolated or canceled because you happen to think there's a treatment. for a problem that others might want to know about. All right, but you can get canceled, and that's what happens. Now, Foucher's a long-time guy, a long-time swamp creature. He's 34 years, the guy was involved with U.S. government and medicine.
Starting point is 00:07:12 And one of the most damning accusations against him is that he lied, is that the National Institute of Health, and we have the data right here, donated at least $600,000, probably more, to the Wuhan lap. So the U.S. and Chinese were working side by side on this COVID situation. And then Fauci takes aside that it was just natural. It was just animal interaction. And that's what happened.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Got into the Taiwanese market and boom to China and to Wuhan. And then it spread all over the world. That was Fauci's point of view. others said no, this was invented, if you want to use that word, in the lab. We were weaponized by the Chinese scientists to kill people, biological weaponry. So it became more than a political voting thing. It became a, what do you do? And now it looks like that Fauci was, or at least, simileged,
Starting point is 00:08:26 sympathetic to the lab theory when all his public appearances said, no, no, no, it wasn't Wuhan. It wasn't, we didn't throw money in there, which they did. So that's a pretty big falsehood, right? It's a massive breach of trust, especially when you're a virologist, and this is an area of expertise for you, but he wasn't alone. I think he was either influencing others or maybe they were getting on the bandwagon on their own desire because they wanted to stay safe, is often safe if you stay with the tribe. And they were all out there touting the fact that this must be a wild arising virus.
Starting point is 00:09:05 It came from these bat caves a thousand miles away and somehow got to the Wuhan wet market. But nevertheless, that's probably what happened because it wasn't really possible to have constructed a virus of this nature in a laboratory. The best evidence we have now is that such not a true assertion. And the condemnation of people who said,
Starting point is 00:09:24 wait a minute, is it possible that This was actually just sloppiness and that there was a laboratory experiment that went bad and they weren't really wearing good quality material to prevent contamination. And they got some people infected months before the world was told about the existence of this virus that ultimately led to the pandemic. You know, that's all part of the argument that you have to consider if you really want to understand how to prevent this from happening in the future. Well, where do you come down on it? I mean, I come down on it and I'm looking at it from a. journalist's point of view, look, you've got this lab, all right, and then this accident call whatever you want releases the virus. Chinese shut down the whole province of Wuhan. Shut down the whole province, the Chinese government. Okay, they're not doing that because a couple
Starting point is 00:10:20 of apes, a thousand miles away did something. All right, and then, of course, the Chinese don't tell us anything, don't tell the world, and still allow planes to fly in and out of China, which is why COVID spread all over the world so quickly. So from a journalist's point of view, it's got to be the lab. No? Do you make compelling arguments, all the ones that I make all the time? And I believe that you're right. I think it came out of the laboratory. Now, why they were doing it? What were they trying to do? How did it escape from the lab? Those are issues I wish we know about. But you're not going to know.
Starting point is 00:10:57 It's a Chinese. They're never going to tell you why. They don't do that. But Fauci, pumping millions of thousands of dollars of American taxpayer money into the lab, certainly should be as skeptical as you and I am, right? I mean, he wasn't skeptical at all. He would push and push and pushing for this kind of explanation. And then there were the kids.
Starting point is 00:11:25 So then he comes out and he says, well, you know, hey, even though it's shown now, I believe, you correct me if I'm wrong, that COVID was not driven toward children. He's going, no, stay home from school. No, you got to wear, all kids wear masks or whatever. Destroys the U.S. educational system for at least a year and a half, at least. And it does it on what? On what? What was the basis of doing that? Do you know? I don't know why he did it, but I mean, he adds some more facts. You'll use these in future conversations.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Within a month or two of the pandemic starting, we were already seeing that in Europe and Asia, they had reopened their schools and they didn't seem to have problems. No, right. And so when we started talking about that, and I did it myself, you know, I remember having a conversation with your good friend, Sean Hannity, in April. And I made this comment, oh my gosh, the vitriol, the possibility that you would purposely would hurt children and their teachers and the families by luring children into schools and making them, you know, cesspools or petri dishes for virus spread. It was shocking. The fact that you couldn't have been voiced that opinion.
Starting point is 00:12:43 And I was reporting at the time on published articles saying exactly what you and I both reflecting today. It wasn't like it was, you know, newfangled, just made it. up, thought about it last night while I was asleep, literally published information in peer-viewed journals saying it doesn't seem to be that much of a problem to put the kids back in school. And I have a foundation. It was all over the country. We raised $100 million for it, been around for 20 years. I deal with schools and kids in schools, teenagers in particular quite a bit. They were harmed in a very big way by our actions locking them at home. And when states did
Starting point is 00:13:17 not do that, like Florida, for example, those kids didn't have those those, those, those, those bars put around them and locked them, you know, away. And so they were able to get their education as they were just designed to think of how much we learned every year of our lives for the first 15, 18 years of our lives. Really important. Lost all that for two, three years. In some parts of the country, cities did not open their schools fully for over two years, Bill. It's a long time. Now, you ran as a Republican for the Senate in Pennsylvania, betterman beat you. But you might have an insight into why the Democratic Party, particularly the Biden administration, which wasn't bullish. I mean, Trump was a lot more bullish on COVID, as you pointed out. He got Operation
Starting point is 00:14:04 Warp Speed passed and then bought the vaccine. He basically bought it from these people in less than a year, which was a monumental achievement. But the other side of the aisle, the Biden people, when Trump left office and Biden came in, they were very militant backing up Fauci, particularly the media, CNN, couldn't get enough of Fauci. Do you have any idea why would you throw up behind that guy? He was, to me, he's a weasel, and that's probably unfair. I don't know him personally, but he's a swap creature, 34 years.
Starting point is 00:14:45 And what he's saying isn't adding up? When you look at the data from China, from Europe, from Florida, doesn't add up. Yet you had a whole party, a whole movement backing him. Why? I have no idea. I guess one argument is that it seemed like the president and the Republicans were getting unhappy with his performance, his handling of the pandemic. And so just as a countervailing force, they naturally instinctively went over to his side. but I don't understand it.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Again, I'm speaking as a position at this point. I'm not quite sure why there was almost a blind adherence to dogma that was coming from Fauci when it wasn't actually reflected in the beliefs of many physicians. And Bill, you know, in my job right here at CMS, I'm spending a lot of time trying to understand what happened to doctors in general. Like, how come we lost our mojo?
Starting point is 00:15:38 I think part of it is driven by money. A lot of doctors now, most primary care doctors are owned by a hospital or company or private equity. So there's a lot of doctors who no longer are truly out there on their own who can say what they want because they don't have a boss. But there are definitely changes that have happened into the culture of medicine and the healing in general. And that is a big, big challenge for the entire country.
Starting point is 00:16:02 It's one of the issues that Secretary Kennedy is dealing with the Maha movement. You know, why is it that most moms in America today think it's harder to take care of their kids to raise healthy kids than it was for their moms to raise them? Why is it that we seem to have so much more of chronic illnesses? 70% of the money I spend bill. I spent $2 trillion out of this building that go out to take care of Medicare, Medicaid and chip programs, the Obamacare. $2 trillion, 70% at least is driven by chronic disease.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Where do they come from? Why are we twice as bad as Europe? I'll tell you in a moment, but I got one more question on the COVID-Fouci vaccine thing. Now, as a report that I can't substantiate that President Trump, Trump pressuring Kennedy to find a link between childhood vaccines and autism. Have you read that report? I saw the news reports, yes.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Okay. Now, hey, if you're here listening, you know you don't want spin, right? You know that, Bill knows that. Bill does not mess with the spin. You want it straight. So here's a straight recommendation. I'm Mike Baker, former CIA officer, and every day on the President's Daily Brief, I do for national security and geopolitics exactly what this show does for the news.
Starting point is 00:17:20 No agenda, no hysteria, no opinion, just the facts. We tell you what's happening, you decide how to think about it. It's named for the brief that lands on the President's desk, and it runs every single day, 20 minutes in the morning, 10 minutes in the afternoon. Smart, fast, honest, follow the President's Daily Brief on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you listen. I'm saying to myself, why, number one, I guess the president, because I haven't talked to him about it, feels that this is a reality, that there is or could be a linkage, because autism is, I do a lot of work with them, is growing. And he wants a definition from you guys about whether that is a reality. Childhood Vax leads to autism.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Any opinion on that? The most important thing we have to do is pull data that the government should be able to pull to answer that very question. And that is a question the president has asked, and he's absolutely right to do that because many Americans now know that the incidence of autism has skyrocketed
Starting point is 00:18:29 to about 1 in 30 children. And when we see these kinds of numbers, and you see, from my side, the numbers of children in treatment that states are struggling to provide to these kids. As you know, in Minnesota was one of the big issues with their fraud, waste, and abuse problem is they took a program for autism five years ago was supposed to be, you know, one, two, three million dollars. They paid $400 million for that program last year.
Starting point is 00:18:52 And so now people are seeing treatment of autism as an opportunity to make money, illicitly. And so we're now struggling to try to find out, you know, what is this burden coming from? Families all over America being hurt and harmed. And so we need to pull all that data, which Secretary Kennedy is doing. He's got a very thoughtful process by which he's going to evaluate things like what happens to kids who have all their vaccines versus none of their vaccines. Is there any difference in allergies or problems with their intestines or maybe even behavioral abnormalities like autism?
Starting point is 00:19:24 But to do that, you have to take these data sets. So that research is underway now? All of that's underway? Yes. Okay. It is. Because that's what you have to do because Kennedy has got the, he's got the stamp of being anti-vaccine.
Starting point is 00:19:36 You know that. I'm again, I just want to see what the data is. I don't care what Bobby Kennedy Jr. thinks about vaccine. I want to hear the data. All right, let's get to make Americans healthy again. I'll tell you what. This is the driving force behind chronic illness as Americans get old. Sugar.
Starting point is 00:20:02 And it is as pernicious as tobacco, all right? And why has the federal government not put warning labels on cereals, on snacks, on whatever, saying, this is loaded with sugar, and sugar may cause you harm? Why has that not happened? There's a lot of people who argue that we don't want a nanny state where the government tells you things. A lot of folks say, well, you can't even read it? You know, you still got it if you want it, but it's like cigarettes. I think the way you get ahead on sugar is by showing more and more information demonstrating
Starting point is 00:20:49 that it is a major driver of obesity to America, that we've changed where it is on the food pyramid. Secretary Kennedy, as you know, in the Maha movement, we took this food, the dietary guidelines, the food pyramid, and we flipped it upside down the way it was supposed to be. So no longer are we vilifying the fats. we're actually going after the biggest culprit that we can easily modify, which is sugar. But Bill, think about this a little bit. Why is sugar so popular?
Starting point is 00:21:13 Why does it work so well? Because it stimulates your brain to release chemicals, feel-good chemicals, that get you through stressful moments, loneliness. If you're tired, it gives you energy. But not the kind of energy you want, just like the phrenmic energy to keep you going. But the real foods you should be eating, when they're vilified, you're not left with many options. And that's why this food permit... It's not that easy to acquire.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Look, I went to my local 7-Eleven today, okay, out here on eastern Long Island. There wasn't one product that you could eat in the whole damn store that wasn't going to hurt you. I mean, it's just lined up with garbage, you know, and, okay, I know it's fast food. I know you go in there for a snack. I'm not trying to crucify 7-Eleven. But the volume of sugar-laden products and with diabetes and all of these other maladies stemming from the consumption of sugar. And the government just sit there and goes, well, we can't be a nanny state?
Starting point is 00:22:18 Come on. You got to protect the population. We are protected the population, but I don't think we do it best by telling them something they already know. I mean, who out there thinks that, well, I actually think most people do know. but they don't realize exactly what a problem it is. I'll give you some concrete examples. When I was in medical school, there was no nutrition class in my school.
Starting point is 00:22:38 I actually ran for class president and I won on the platform that we're going to introduce nutrition into medical school. Now, why is that important, Bill? Because if you go to medical school and you don't learn something, it means it didn't matter. So we have a generation of doctors out there practicing who've never had a nutrition class. Therefore, by implication, it's not important that they care about nutrition. So they'll take care of folks in any way they can, but they won't bring into that mix the reality
Starting point is 00:23:05 that you have to be able to deal with the consequences if you eat the wrong food. So yes, I'll give news to you from, this is from last week, because we're also traveling around the country, getting all the medical schools today now to incorporate nutrition in their classroom so future doctors get this message. But here's the good part.
Starting point is 00:23:21 We're going to all the hospitals and asking hospitals the change of food they're serving patients because that's a much better way of getting people to eat. I'll give you this. concrete number. I went to Moffitt Cancer. I was in Tampa, in Florida. Moffitt Cancer Hospital, top-tier institution in this area, and they actually have research showing that if they put you
Starting point is 00:23:41 at a keto diet, a low-sugar diet for two weeks prior to giving you immunotherapy, cancer therapy, they can improve your body's ability to deal with the treatment. They also have evidence. They showed me these scary pictures of cancers where all the cancer cells stay together. But when you add artificial sweeteners to these cancer cells, some of them begin to move a little bit. Like they get away, they escape, they might metastasize. So this is all very early data, but this stuff, as they begin to publish it and share it, it's, you know, it's, you get goosebumps thinking about the complications and, and opportunities. You could dramatically improve survival rates for some bad problems if you might be able to
Starting point is 00:24:21 use the diet. At that same time, I went to visit Tampa General. The hospital, beautiful, big hospital, they've completely revamped their food service. is important to understand. When you go to most hospitals in America, they give you hospital food, which is a pejorative. It doesn't taste very good. You end up throwing about a quarter of it away because patients don't like it. They won't eat it. So in this Tampa General Hospital, now all across the country this is happening, the hospitals are signing a pledge to join the food pyramid as a guidepost for making their meals. Patients order their meals themselves. They're given
Starting point is 00:24:53 only meals that have natural sugar, no added sugars. They're very specific on the kinds of things that are better for your particular condition. We're training people to have taste buds that appreciate healthy food. Bill, the reason people go to that store and buy only sugar is we have infantilized their taste buds. Go to a school today in America. Here's what you're going to see. Kids drinking the following. Not whole milk, which we know would be okay for them, but because whole milk has whole fats in it, we told generations of dietitians in schools, take the fat out. it becomes skim milk. Skim milk is sugar milk.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Have you ever had skim milk? It tastes terrible. I don't know that. I drink regular stuff. I'm not... Exactly. You're smart. But in order to get the kids
Starting point is 00:25:37 to drink the skin milk, which has had all the good fats taken out, they have to add chocolate syrup to it. Now you have chocolate syrup skin milk, same calories as wholesome real milk, except all it's got in there are some fake sugars, some real sugars,
Starting point is 00:25:52 but they're going to taste really good to you. And kids have taste buds that behave like they're five years old, even when they're 25 years old. That's the problem. We get people addicted to a simple carbohydrate diet, which is devastating. And you know who pays the price? All of us. It drops our survival rates, gives us illnesses, and it also gives us fat.
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Starting point is 00:28:15 Okay? And you got to go and take 18 blood tests to figure out why it don't feel good or what Something's going wrong. Yet what we see is the fast food nation. And people are addicted to it, just like marijuana, just like alcohol. They are addicted to these fast foods. They're lazy. People don't want to cook. I got it.
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Starting point is 00:29:26 Not all the time, but now it repels me. I can't even look at it. I can't even look at it because I know what it does and just the aftertaste alone. But you know, kids, happy meal, you know, I want a nickname name, happy your dead meal. Can we do that? Can we slap that on there? This is just unbelievable surge from Juneau, Alaska, to Key West. I mean, it's convenient, it tastes good, and then it comes down to money.
Starting point is 00:30:02 You want to buy a steak, you want your protein, you better have a pocketful of change. Because the whole food cycle, as far as finances concern, is way out of whack. Now, I know the government can't control wages and prices. But I think Americans have got to take this. they got to put this up as priority number one, particularly parents, to make sure your kids are healthy and eating correctly. But I'm not seeing a lot of public service announcements on that, and I'm getting back to the labels. Labels should be mandatory for the sugar-laden stuff. Bill, if you look at the stock prices of the companies that make the junk foods that you're speaking to,
Starting point is 00:30:46 since we came in the office, they have generally gone down quite a bit. I think it reflects the fact that the American people are hearing the message, and they don't want that kind of food in their pantry anymore. They don't want to buy that kind of food. And there's another product, which is the GLP-1 drugs, the fat shots, as the president calls them, that are also entering into the mix. For the first time, in my lifetime, we're actually seeing less obesity than the year before. Obesied rates in America down about 8 percent in the last three years. They're taking the pills to get the weight off. I don't know if that's healthy.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Yeah, I don't, it's not about just the pills. You don't, doctors don't just, it's a shot usually, as you know, but most of the time, and you should anyway, have a physician prescribing these for you while also telling you that this is not the solution. This is just a way of jumpstarting your process, kickstarting the process. You've got to eat the right things. You have to sleep better, get the right activities, exercise. That's part of a holistic approach.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Most people go on these products, they seem to come on, them, off them. They take them for a while, they go off. But, you know, if you're playing waves, you. maybe it's when you're, I don't know, 20 years of age. That was your ideal body habitus. And maybe you're, I'm making this up. What were you when you were 20 years of age? 200 pounds?
Starting point is 00:31:59 Yeah, about 210. All right. So that's your playing weight. If you're 270 or 300, it's hard to do things that an active person can do. Your knees hurt, your back hurts, you don't sleep well. You don't feel good about yourself. So getting someone to lose 50 pounds, even if it takes a shot or some other approach, once they're back to a playing weight where they feel better,
Starting point is 00:32:20 they can stay there more readily. It's harder to lose weight than to maintain your weight. And that's how these medications may be working. But I'll tell you, our projections, and as you know, the president was adamant about the whole issue of drug prices. He's concerned about it because one in three Americans go to a drug store to buy a branded medication.
Starting point is 00:32:39 They can't afford the medication. I know. It's crazy. Something's got to be done. What is being done? But the reason But let me bring us up quickly. The part of the reason for that is that we pay in this country three times more for the exact
Starting point is 00:32:54 same medications. Even when they're made in these facilities based in America, then people in Europe or Asia are paying. So the president said, no more. We're going to get most favorite nation drug pricing. We want everyone to understand whatever your drug prices in Germany is going to be the same in America. We have dropping drug prices in America dramatically. That makes it more affordable.
Starting point is 00:33:13 And for everyone watching who's on Medicare, not only have we made these prices. is much more affordable in this country, but on Medicare, particularly, if you're over at the age of 65, you can get, if you're eligible, these fat shots, the GLP1 drugs, for 50 bucks a month. That's, you know, it used to be over $1,000 a month. So, dramatic change, mainly because we asked. We said, we're not taking this anymore.
Starting point is 00:33:34 We want fair prices for Americans, and we've got those prices, and we did this in part because we believe that within two years of taking these medications, we're going to start the social savings for the American taxpayer. that you're actually going to have less disease, less illness, less cancer, less reason to go to a hospital, and therefore we'll to rebate money to the American people. Okay, you need to get more publicity on that because what you just said is not widely known. You know, I was looking at your friend Oprah the other day.
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Starting point is 00:37:22 health tech ecosystem. And by that I mean, for the first time ever, we are paying technology companies to make digital tools, apps in particular, but these tools can be used to help you do better in all the decisions you're making, including some of the ones you brought up. And so if we can use artificial intelligence and other digital technologies to give you better advice customized to your needs, we think you'll use those bits of advice. Now, here's the way it works. And this is something you should understand for everybody, not just for people who want to lose weight. You from now on don't have to use a clipboard. You can just take your phone and take your medical records and put it on your phone in a QR code.
Starting point is 00:38:00 And in that QR code, the doctor's officer will just scan it and they'll know everything about you so we don't have to give you the need to change your medical benefits. beneficiary number, give credit cards, all those things get stolen, by the way. We have millions of Medicare beneficiary numbers that are lost to the ether, stolen by foreign countries used to create fictitious bills. So we want to take all that away. But the real benefit for you is you now control your medical records. They're on your phone. You can send that information if you desire anywhere you want, including to companies that are creating tools to help you pick better foods, get better lifestyle choices based on your medical records. They know you can't run a sprint, but they know you you can do sit-ups.
Starting point is 00:38:38 They know you don't like these foods, but you're better at those foods. Or you've got diabetes, you really have to cut back on the sugar versus, you know, you have a little high blood pressure, your problem is more salt. And so giving you advice customized to the medical records that now those companies can use if you give them permission and powers, it turbocharges the system. And I do believe that's the major change has happened just in the last year since we've been in office. A year ago, Bill, 5% of people, 5% were able to take their medical records from wherever they
Starting point is 00:39:07 we're getting care and exchange it as they desired. Now it's over half the population and it's growing rapidly. What's holding us back is the American people. Folks watching this show, for example, don't know this is possible, might not be curious, may not want to try. We're desperately trying to get that message out because when we have that message out to you, the same time we're talking to you, we can give you other bits of insights, like advice on when to take a fat shot, a GOP1, or how to push back on certain bad advice that might be out there in the ecosystem that you might want to ignore. Okay. Older people have a hard time with all that technology. So I mean, and I'm an older person, so I know that. But that program that you're working on seems to
Starting point is 00:39:52 be very, very positive. But this is the first I'm hearing about it, and I'm in the business of gathering information. So when is the federal government going to start a campaign? based upon we are going to help you help yourself get healthier, and here's what you have to do. Because it's going to take that to get through to the people who are driving into the windows, ordering all this garbage. You're going to have to pound them with this. Same thing happened with tobacco. I mean, at one point, more than 50% of Americans smoked cigarettes after World War II.
Starting point is 00:40:36 serious smokers. Eisenhower smoked five packs of cigarettes a day. Okay? And then as soon as a federal government got involved and said caution, cigarette smoking maybe hazardous your health or tobacco, whatever it was, it slowly started to go down. All right? This one, because it's so personal for people's appearance,
Starting point is 00:40:59 they want to look good, all right? This would be supercharged if you could organize. a campaign. And you know, it's really ironic. I don't know whether you watch a lot of television. I don't. But whenever I turn on linear TV, all the advertisements are for drugs. All of them. You know, this will do this. This will do that. Call this. Your toes will fall off if you take it. But that's okay. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Television industry is totally reliant now on pushing these drugs. for various ailments. So my quest is to simplify and to make it clear to everybody that there is a better way.
Starting point is 00:41:51 And I haven't seen it yet. Well, have you heard of TrumpRX.gov? Yeah. And if you haven't got, okay. So that was the first step that we made just to get people to understand that if they use their phones, no matter what age you are. My file law is 90 years old. He still has a smartphone.
Starting point is 00:42:09 He's still able to do basic conversations. And you can click on that TrumpRX.gov site, and it will tell you exactly the prices of all the medications, not just the fat shots, all the medications, that you may be looking for in all the pharmacies around you. So that gives you a reason to be talking to us because we can give you transparency. We can do the same thing, for example, the food choices you're making.
Starting point is 00:42:32 But we have to have a bunch of use cases. All those are rolling out this summer. And the beautiful part is we can run ads against some of these ideas. But you know who's going to be the best person to tell a patient, they're doctors. And so we're telling the doctors, if you use these digital tools, if you let your patients benefit from these tools, we can make it worth your time. They can save you time. A lot of the information you might want to spend time talking to your patient about,
Starting point is 00:42:56 the device will actually do as well as you because it can customize it to your care, and it'll tell the patient when they're about to eat a bad meal, hey, not such a good idea. So it turbocharges what you described happen with the cigarette industry. But Bill, part of the problem is the people we need to speak to the most are the least willing to hear the message. Telling cigarette smokers that cigarettes are bad for them doesn't work. It's been tried a lot. You know what works? Yeah, but it's down big.
Starting point is 00:43:23 It's like only maybe 15% of the American population smoke cigarettes down for more than 50. And in all the countries where it's been done, it's been done basically this way. Get the families that tell their loved ones why it matters to them that they stop smoking. And then, and then, once the person has made the decision to stop smoking, give them tools. Give them if they need medications or surrogates or give them patches or other things that can make it easier so it's not painful to do it. We're trying to do the same thing. The Mahab movement fundamentally is about making it easier to be healthy in America. So your default is to do the right thing.
Starting point is 00:44:00 And we do that by making sure families take care of each other. get the message out there, get mom pestering you, telling you all the things that you and I are talking about now. And then, and then give you the extra little ability to act on it. So, for example, you go to your doc, we give them these tools. I just talked about the AI-powered digital tools. If you want them, you can use them because you're taking it on your own. You're not feeling like you're being forced upon.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Your family's total told the same thing because those medical information tidbits can go to your family if you let them have it. They'll also be pushing you, hey, dad, you know, you're not. your blood pressure is too high, you got to deal with it in the following ways. And then we get a holistic, more 360 approach. That's what we think will move the needle. And then the last thing in there, you know what? If you want to lose weight, and that's the reason your blood pressure is high,
Starting point is 00:44:46 we got this great opportunity that Medicare is given all seniors if they are eligible. For $50, for $50, not the $1,000, for $50, you can get an injection that can help you lose weight so that you can get to a place where you're happy. Your blood pressure's down. Your family's happy. you can take care of your kids better, and all the while, we're making it easy to do the right thing. Again, fundamentally what the president and secretary Kennedy want.
Starting point is 00:45:11 It's great in theory, but it's more difficult in practice. But I'm praying that you guys can get it up and running. Is there any meaningful opposition? I know there's opposition to Kennedy. He's been demonized by the left, the progressive left primarily, and his own family. for going over to the Trump side. But is there any meaningful opposition on the hill against all of the things that you're talking about,
Starting point is 00:45:45 which is basically an awareness of how you can deal with your own personal health? That's what you're selling here, doctor, okay? And we're going to make it as easy and as cheap as possible for you to do that. But you've got to help yourself. You've got to figure out how to put the thing on here and send it to where you want to go. But is there anybody that resisting this? Are the food companies, the sugar companies, are they resisting this? You definitely have stakeholders who are not going to do as well in this new world
Starting point is 00:46:22 because they're going to be seeing customers nudged in a different direction. You know, advertising bill is primarily about moving your hand from here, on the shelf is you make a purchase to here, right? It's moving you're just a couple inches. People spend a lot of money to make that move. And that's one of the realities when you shake up the etchusketch, and you create a new world, they're new winners and they're new losers, and people get concerned about that. For example, I think some of the angst about AI is driven by Chinese misinformation,
Starting point is 00:46:57 but some of it is driven by very thoughtful Americans who just are scared about this technology for good reasons. Who the heck knows what it's going to do to us? And as you know, if you go watch a movie, once the last time you saw a movie where AI was the hero, right? It's always some, you know, dystopian post-apocalyptic world that everyone's, you know, miserable condition, all because AI took over the planet. That is possible. There are real fears about this. On the other hand, in my specialty of medicine, it's the one place where a lot of Americans think, hey, you know what, if I had a coach in my pocket, if I had a curbside consult all the time, and I could just whip it out and get a quick bit of advice, what would Bill O'Reilly do?
Starting point is 00:47:37 And literally, by the way, they can now find out the advice that folks that they care about might have given them. It might get them psyched up not to have that ice cream Sunday when they're depressed. You know, most of these bad behaviors were adaptive at one point in your life. They became maladaptive. And that's when they take you in the wrong direction. So we're going to hold Dr. Oz over for our premium members to Bill O'Reilly.com in a segment called Killing Time. Everybody else, we hope you enjoy the conversation. I think that Dr. Oz is one of the most informative guests we've ever had on this forum.
Starting point is 00:48:14 And you know how wide, and this is a worldwide forum. It's not just the United States. And I hope you think about what we have said and look out for yourself because there's people who, love you, all right? They want you to be healthy, but you got to work it too. Okay, we'll be back in a moment.

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