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I was telling my son the other day
I was like if New York can fall
and there's Sharia courts all over Texas.
Honey, I don't even know where there is to run anymore.
We've never seen this kind of radical left.
A power play gain traction.
They dismissed you as some kind of white supremacist
or whatever term they used.
She lied about it and manipulated the conversation.
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Your guest just brought up.
Of course, half the country literally wanted to kill me.
Hey Bill O'Reilly here.
Welcome to another edition of We'll Do It Live.
And here now is our guest, Jillian Michaels.
Now, you know her, but you really don't.
You really don't know her.
But after this, you will.
So what caught my eye about you as a person is that your upbringing,
your mother was Jewish and your father said.
Syrian. That is some combination. How did that play out in your house when you were a little kid?
You know, boss, I actually had no idea what any of that meant because my parents didn't raise me
with a religion. They raised me as agnostic and to be respectful of everybody. And I actually
had no idea that I had Jewish blood until a genetics test at some point in my 30s. And here I
was just thinking, you know, I'm Arab and my mom's like a mix of Mediterranean, I don't know what.
And I thought her mom was British and had, you know, become a war bride, married my paternal,
my maternal grandfather during World War II. And that was that. And all of a sudden,
I'm looking at my genetics going, wait a second, who's the Jew? And it turns out that my mom's
mom had run from the Nazis through Russia, into Austria, into the UK, and told
my mom, don't ever tell anyone.
Why? And she never did.
Why did you say that?
I think it was fear.
And what's so ironic about that is, for many years,
I remember thinking, like, how crazy,
what a completely different time,
what a totally different mindset.
And now, for the first time in my entire life,
I understand why she felt that way.
Yeah, I mean, but Los Angeles has always been known
as a town that's fairly kind to Jewish people.
They either run the film industry or at least they used to.
There's a heavy component there.
So when you were growing up, there was no prayer rug on your father.
He wasn't invoking Allah and your mother wasn't going to synagogue.
They raised you strictly secular.
Is that correct?
Yeah, I think that they must have dealt with.
these issues before I was born and it's one of the only things in my entire life that they have
agreed on unilaterally. And again, I really didn't appreciate why that would be until now,
but the one thing that I do respect and appreciate about it is that I was raised to respect all
different religions. But it certainly takes on a whole new meaning in today's day and age.
in our polarized society, but this is really recent. So you're in Los Angeles. You're being
raised as a California kid. Who was fleeing the Nazis? Your grandmother? Was it she was fleeing
the Nazis? Yeah, my mom's mom was fleeing the Nazis. But you never were told the stories
or anything like that. They kept that away from you. Completely. Okay, because we had Gene Simmons,
I mentioned earlier, his mother, herself, as a young woman or child even, fled the Nazis,
and that had a tremendous influence on Mr. Simmons, that whole thing.
But you were in a totally different circumstance.
Now, you adopted a daughter from Haiti, correct?
Yes.
And how old is she now?
She's 16 now.
16. Wow.
Crazy. Yeah.
Now I've been to Haiti a number of times.
Covered some pretty grisly stuff that went on there.
How do you handle that one?
Does your daughter, adopted daughter, know what Haiti is,
know how you saved her?
Because you literally did save her.
That country's out of control.
of control. I know. You know, the way that it's been positioned to her is that I wanted a child,
all very true. And to be fair, God or the universe, fate, call it, give it whatever label you
would like, led me to adopt internationally. And most countries were closed to international
adoption and Haiti was still open because she was born in 2010. That's when the earthquake
happened and we adopted her in 2012. So we just so happened to pursue adoption in Haiti because
that country was still adopting out to the United States. So I position it to her as something
that it is. She is a gift to me. I'm grateful every single day that she's in my life.
but I have explained to her because she is inquired about visiting that it is not safe at the moment.
And my hope is that one day she will take all of the gifts and all of the lessons and the education
that she has gotten from being an American citizen and pay it forward to Haiti when she is older.
Okay.
Is she aware of the history of the island that is shared with the Dominican Republic?
Does she know or we kind of steer away from that?
No, she knows.
And we've told her, you know, your ancestors were so powerful and so strong that they actually
fought off the slave masters.
You know, this is the stock that you come from.
But this is a child that doesn't hold any of that multigenerational trauma because I don't
have it to give to her.
I'm not saying that's a good thing.
I'm not saying that's a bad thing.
She has an understanding of the facts, but she also lives in the moment, and she loves being an American.
She's not treated any differently than any of the other kids she goes to school with.
Do you, does she know you saved her?
I don't know.
We certainly don't position it.
I know.
I'm asking personal questions, but if you know Haiti as I do, and you know the turbulence and the uncertainty that the population has to endure every single day,
Nobody is immune to it.
All right.
And then you're in Los Angeles, living an affluent life with Gillian Michaels.
I mean, that's a big save.
That's a big save, okay?
She definitely does not take the opportunities that being an American gives her for granted.
She loves the country.
she's an American kid you know she sees it that way how she revisits her heritage as she gets older remains to be seen
you know I never want her to feel like she is beholden in any way because you know she isn't this is
a this is a kid that lights up my life every single day I don't know what I would do without her
but she is well aware that the the country is in complete and total chaos and terminal yes any skin
color stuff come up, you know, she's, I'm assuming she's black.
You're white.
She is white.
Any skin color stuff at all in L.A. or is that bad?
She's had a few, a few things happen, but they are few and far between.
You know, she got into, this is actually one of the first times I've heard about this, very
Recently, she got into a fight with other teenage girls at her school.
And apparently one of them told her to go back to her country.
And I was irate when she told me that.
And I was like, do you have any idea how much work we went through to make sure that this is your country?
But, you know, she's like, mom, relax.
It's totally fine.
I can handle it.
I'm just telling you what happened.
Because you asked me about your day, my day.
Yeah, kids are dopey.
I mean, she didn't care.
I was so pissed.
but she didn't care at all.
So I was like, maybe I should take a clear.
Yeah, the best way to handle that kind of stuff is by humor.
But you have to make the overall point.
There are bigots and there are ridiculous people running around.
We're never going to do away with them all.
Now, let's go to you.
So when you were a kid, you're a little zoftig, right?
A little chubby or you?
Oh, yeah.
Very, very.
Very, very.
My dad always struggled with food.
I definitely had his metabolism.
I wish I could have gotten my mom's.
This is a person I could eat whatever she wants
and not gain a pound.
But unfortunately, it went the other way in this instance.
And in addition to that,
one of the ways that we would bond
and relate to each other was over food.
A big mac.
So it's like our, the favorite Chwarma restaurant
or my dad would make homemade ice cream
and we'd bond over that.
So by the time I was 13,
I was about 175 pounds and I'm only five foot two now.
So I was probably five feet at the time.
So that must have caused you some social problems,
particularly in a, you know,
cosmetic place like Los Angeles or California,
where, you know, you're evaluated on how you look.
Oh, unquestionably.
But it did give me an appreciation
for what it means to be an underdog.
and a huge amount of grit and resilience, and I wouldn't trade it.
How long did you stay chubby?
And then what was the conversion of getting out of that circumstance?
So it was a confluence of factors that helped me get healthy.
That happened when I was about 15, and my mom had the force.
sight to get me into martial arts honestly when I was around like 12 and a half or 13.
Okay. Yeah. She, you know what? She had been dating somebody whose nephews were in
martial arts. She had a friend whose kids were in martial arts and I was curious about it.
And she thought, you know, maybe this will give her some, some self-respect, help her with
her self-esteem, her self-image. And it did. It got me into a place where over time I graduated
began to redefine my belief in my abilities and what I was capable of and I began to learn
about fitness and nutrition. So right around 15 I began to take the weight off and by the time I was
17 I was pretty fit. Were you an unhappy child up to the time that you got into the martial
arts or were you okay? Complex upbringing, I would say. Nothing crazy traumatic. I wasn't beaten.
nothing like that.
You know,
not a perfect childhood,
not a terrible one.
There were things that I had to work through,
but again, those things made me who I am today,
and they weren't so intense or difficult
that I couldn't find my way out of them.
You weren't overwhelmed by it.
But it had to be a tough one going to school,
and the mean girls and all that.
Were you able to swat that away,
or did you, you know, incorporate it?
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tales. Okay, so the transition there happened. After my second degree blue belt test, I had to
break these two boards with a sidekick. And I remember thinking there's no way I could do it.
And at this point, I still had a nose the size of a softball, which got fixed when I was 15,
terrible skin, I'm heavy. And I break these two boards. I go to school the next day,
and I'm just waiting for one of these mean girls to say something nasty. And not.
No one did.
And I began to appreciate that the way I thought of myself impacted the way I carried myself and
the way I behaved.
And when I respected myself, I ended up commanding respect from other people.
And that was really the key shift.
And that was at age 15?
It was a little bit prior to that, probably around like 14.
It was on the journey.
That's young.
That's young for that kind of a self-awareness to kick in.
I don't know, Bill, that I was aware of what was going on internally at the time.
Looking back, I'm able to appreciate what was going on, if that makes any sense.
Okay. So then you take the martial arts thing and you develop a fitness regimen and you get on TV,
which of course is in America, you know, that's it. You got to get on TV. How did that happen?
How did you get from Jillian Michaels, a martial arts person in LA to national television?
All right.
I'm going to try to make this quick because it's a bit of a long road.
I graduate at high school early at 17 years old, not because I'm a genius because my birthday fell on a strange date.
So I was always the youngest in my class.
I'm looking for a job.
I'm delivering pizzas and parking cars.
And I end up learning as I'm training for my black belt test that I can try.
train people in fitness and make $15 an hour instead of five.
So once again, my mom steps in and she helps me get my first little fitness certification and
I begin training people.
I'm in college, not doing well at it, end up dropping out after about a year and a half.
What school is that?
California State University Northridge.
Okay.
And I'm making a bunch of money training people and bartending at night now.
get a little bit older, and I take it all for granted.
And I just thought I'm making hand over fist cash at this point.
I'm in my early 20s.
Everything's great.
Someone tells me I need to get a real job.
I work in Los Angeles at the time.
So, of course, I get a job in the entertainment industry.
And I pull a David Geffen and a Michael Lovitz,
and I fake a diploma.
A little bit of sociopathy here, Bill,
tell you're hopefully your audience,
will forgive me.
I get hired into the training program
and a talent agency called ICM.
I've never been more miserable and I've never made less money.
However, it turns out that those connections I made at ICM were the ones that ended up putting me up for the job at NBC on the biggest loser.
So by 27, I'm miserable.
I end up leaving the entertainment industry.
I go back to fitness.
I work at a sports medicine facility for a little while.
Learn that business.
Open my own sports medicine facility by the time I'm 30.
and all the doctors work under me for my business.
And at that point, some of the people who knew me from back in my talent agency days put me up for this job at NBC, and I ended up getting it.
Okay.
That's a logical progression.
So you get the job.
Now, I didn't watch the biggest loser because I know so many losers that I don't want to be reminded in my leisure time.
of losers that are even bigger than the ones I know,
because I'm in the political game,
talk about losers.
Anyway, I didn't watch it, but friends of mine did.
And the consensus is that sometimes you get a little mean
to the hefty people who were coming before you.
Is that true?
Depends how you would define mean.
aggressive yes but you have to appreciate that biggest loser for me was a life or death
intervention that I was running on a ticking clock because people could go home
in a week two weeks three and I needed them to have very specific or hit very
specific benchmarks before they would get eliminated in order for there to be any
hope of them continuing on their healthy journey okay so you were going you were doing
tough love then with these people. Yes, very much so. Yes, 100%. Did you get letters saying,
hey, you B word, why are you doing this? Still do. Until you did. You got some pushback from the
general public because about 50% I think of Americans are overweight to some extent. And most people
don't want to be overweight, but we live in a sugar culture here.
which is really what drives this kind of crazy stuff.
So you're on the biggest loser.
You become a big star with these other reality people.
And when you were there, you were there for quite some time.
Let's see, you started in 2004, and your last appearance was 13.
So it's nine years of the biggest loser.
I would have committed suicide.
But you got to have.
got through it and prospered by it, right?
Somehow.
I will admit that there is a great quote
that I will butcher on the translation,
but it is that which nourishes me also destroys me.
So I did manage to avoid suicide.
And I am grateful for the platform
because I wouldn't be sitting here with you today,
but it definitely had its downs along with its ups.
for sure. So you, you know, all of these reality shows play themselves out. It's just, yeah,
I think there are now at least 400 people stranded on some island and CBS ran out of money
so they're not coming back. I mean, it's like these reality shows are just, they people watch
them and then they go, I've seen it. So you did what after the biggest loser lost?
Gosh, I spent a lot of time just building my fitness brand, writing books, creating fitness apps,
investing strategically in other better for you companies, whether it was boutique fitness gyms
or better for you food brands like crave jerky, for example, or pop chips.
And I was able to do really well for myself in that arena.
up until right around 2021, when the world went totally crazy.
And I began exploring other areas and speaking to truth tellers like yourself,
taking the audience on a journey with me to learn more about what in the heck's going on in our world today
so that we can take powerful actions to try to honestly save the country,
is what it sure seems like, Bill.
It's hard.
But you at the same time were running, you're an entrepreneur,
you were running businesses,
and it made it easier with the Internet and social media
for you to reach all these people.
That's what I've done.
So I got out of the straight television market,
went right into social media,
and boom, we've exploded because we have a product
nobody else has.
So you're an entrepreneur,
you're making pretty good money.
You're doing what you like,
to do, getting people in shape and all that. Now, today, we hear that people like you are the problem,
that the socialist, communist movement go, wait, no, no, Gillian Michaels and O'Reilly, they make too much money.
They don't have a right to make it. It's the country that did it. The government did it. They didn't do it.
How do you react to that?
Well, I try to honestly take a more empathetic approach and seek to understand these kids who are so greatly disenfranchised because I have been poor.
And I have been envious and jealous.
But living in that headspace and focusing on the king of the hill instead of myself and what I need to do to get where I want to go was never productive.
So I had great mentors that taught me to invert that jealousy and that envy into admiration and inspiration.
And I flipped it in order to excel and get where I wanted to be in life.
All right. So you went up.
But again, the money is coming in.
You're living well.
You're an affluent American.
And now you have a movement that is demonizing.
organizing wealth tax. They want to go to Gillian Michael's house and take your stuff. That's what they want.
Particularly California, I mean, you would have built a very, very big fence so you can at least get some of you jewels out before Newsom's cops come in and try to take everything.
But you know what I'm talking about. I sure do. That is not that is new to our society. We've never seen this kind of radical left.
a power play, gain traction.
So I'm just wondering from an entrepreneurial's point of view,
you're an entrepreneur, how you're processing it?
You still live in California.
No, no, boss.
I actually left in 21 because I saw the writing on the wall.
I moved to Miami.
Oh, so you're a Floridian now?
Well, so I couldn't fully extricate members of my family that I have to be close to.
So during COVID, the kids were able to go back and forth because they weren't in school for two years.
My daughter ended up going to school in Florida.
My son did homeschooling.
And then when that ended, unfortunately, my ex didn't move.
So I ended up getting a place in Wyoming, which is where I live now.
I can get back to California in an hour and a half.
I did not know you lived in Wyoming.
I do now for about a year and a half, two years, two years now.
Beautiful state, but it's cold.
It is cold in Wyoming.
And then you get up every morning, you go out to get the milk, and there's a moose staring at you.
That's actually 100% accurate.
It's the cutest thing in the world.
But I'll tell you that it is well worth it.
I can leave when I need to leave because, I don't.
Honestly, Bill, I was telling my son the other day, I was like, if New York can fall and there's Sharia courts all over Texas, if Florida goes down and Wyoming goes down, honey, I don't even know where there is to run anymore.
This has always been the place that people escape.
Yeah, it's not going to go down.
The red states will stay red.
I hope so.
Because there's so many people there that don't want the progressive point of view.
That's why they're there.
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So now you're kind of building up a portfolio of you appear on programs like mine.
and others. And you were on CNN news night with Abby Phillip. Abby loves me. I mean,
she just doesn't stop calling. She, you know, Abby just loves me. Okay, that's a total lie, by the way.
But anyway, so she's on there with you. And you guys are arguing about American slavery,
about the roots of it and how it's displayed,
and which drives Trump crazy,
in the Smithsonian and other things.
But in this society,
if you are going to take on a person of color about slavery,
right away, okay, your seven points down.
And I was wondering what that experience was like.
Well, you know, Bill, it started out actually
as a conversation about,
the Smithsonian. And one of Abby Phillips guests, Julie
Reginsky, was making the claim that, you know,
everybody whose MAGA is a racist and Trump was
dear leader, like this authoritarian fascist. And I said,
that's not true. Because I had actually done my homework and
reached out to the investigation, I'm sorry, to the
administration saying, you know, listen, what is it that
the president is taking umbrage with? And it had nothing to do
with erasing slavery and it had everything to do with
demonizing white people.
white people. So for example, there's a poster or there was in the Smithsonian about white culture
that talks about how aggressive white people are. It was things of that nature. So I started to
defend against that when Richie Torres and Abby Phillips began engaging in a conversation about
slavery. And at that moment, I thought, okay, you know what, if we're going to go down this road,
let's go down this road.
And I brought up the fact
that slavery has been around
for thousands of years,
that every single
race and ethnicity has worn the whip
and the chains, and that it
doesn't do our society any good
to demonize just
one race for all
of the evils of all of humanity
throughout the history of humanity.
And you're right, it
didn't go well on CNN.
But I think a lot of other people appreciated the fact that I was challenging them on this topic and brought up a fact from the 1860 census that showed less than 2% of white Americans owned slaves.
And of course I understand that the entire South built an economy on it.
But then the counterpoint is that the North didn't and that the country went to war over it.
And that 350,000 white people died to end it because they also found it abhorrent.
And I don't understand why we cannot appreciate that, yes, these evil things happened,
but that there were good white people standing alongside their black brothers and sisters throughout the history of America,
fighting for what was right as well.
And until we can find this unity, I don't know how this ends, Bill.
and I have a black kid and I have a white one.
Yeah.
It gets more racism and more hatred.
You have to take a very charismatic leadership.
Now, when you were making your fact-based case, okay, which is always the way to go on these crazy.
It was not well received on the panel.
I mean, they thought they dismissed you as some kind of white supremacist or whatever.
Yeah, well, she lied about it and manipulated the conversation.
and she's like, you brought it up.
I'm like, I didn't bring it up.
Your guest just brought up.
And then she brought up chattel slavery.
And she's like, you're trying to say that in America.
And I'm like, nope, that's not what I said.
You're mischaracterizing what I said.
And then it became like, you know,
and then she literally dined out on it for a week on her show,
educating people about how the white supremacist,
Jillian Michaels, got slavery wrong.
And I have confronted her repeatedly on the facts
and invited her on my show,
to debate that, but of course, you know, that hasn't happened.
No, it's not going to do it.
She's a privileged woman of color and whatever she says is right.
And if you disagree with her, then you're not worthy.
That's basically what it comes down to.
But boy, when you get into these precincts, as you saw, emotions fly.
I mean, all rationality goes out the ears.
I was wondering what the reaction to you was.
I don't know what the accessibility to Jillian Michaels is,
but did you get a lot of heat from people?
Oh, goodness.
Okay, well, of course, half the country literally wanted to kill me,
literally went after my wife, my kids,
which is definitely part for the course.
Did you have to get security like I do?
Did you have to do that?
We've got, yeah, you know, the house, the dogs, the this, the that, the guns,
that it's like we've got it we've got it all which is kind of a gross and sad thing to say but but is true
you know but the other half of the country was like thank god you said something all right
right did you take solace from that or where did you go never again i don't want to get into
this swamp this is this is one of the key conversations i think we need to be having because if we
don't. It's going to beget more racism from disenfranchised young white people who are feeling
unfairly demonized for things they had nothing to do with and then become angry and racist.
And I could give you many different examples. I think that's one of the good reasons that people
like Nick Fuentes, who is a self-proclaimed white nationalist, has arguably one of the most
successful podcasts in the world. I think this is why.
People believe what they want to believe, and they often go to echo chambers to tell them what they already have incorporated.
Now, you also left your podcast in 2025, and they're kind of, I didn't really understand it.
It was doing very well.
I was on it a few times.
And you left it.
Why?
Well, not my personal podcast.
There was a podcast that Patrick Bet David had asked me to participate in that was called her take.
And the idea was to have a group of women that had differing opinions.
He wanted to bring a more common sense version of the view to the masses.
And it ended up very unfortunately getting to a place where not because,
of PBD, by the way, just unto itself because of the natural inclinations of the other hosts,
getting to a place where it was dealing in conspiracy theories. And week after week, I would have to
sit through my co-hosts discussing things like the Jews being responsible for 9-11 and the Jews
being responsible for Charlie Kirk's death. And that's when I was like, this is not for me.
Right. I mean, you don't want to be involved with the loons, as I call them.
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political analyst to some extent, people seek out your opinion. Is that the way you want it? Is that
the balance you're looking for? I don't see it that way, Bill. I'm the farthest thing from a political
analyst. I see myself like I see my audience. We want to understand. We want to learn. I want the
facts. And that's when I go to people like yourself or people like Victor Davis Hansen or people like
Mike Baker or politicians that are running for office and I ask them questions. And the audience gets
to hear those answers and get that information and form their own opinions about it. You know,
if I do give an opinion on something that is considered political, it's because usually it's
intersecting with health and my wheelhouse in the Venn diagram. So, for example, I just did a press hit
about the Supreme Court upholding Title IX
because I owned a sports medicine facility
and I've been a fitness expert
since I was practically out of the womb
so I can comment on that with unique expertise
or things on Maha, for example.
But stuff that falls into your wheelhouse,
all I can do is ask the questions, honestly.
All right.
So you dabble in the public policy arena
but your core
to use a workout phrase, is still making people healthy.
So enter Robert Kennedy Jr., who apparently eats road killing snakes.
Should I be doing that?
Should I, no?
Appetizer, I don't have to get an entree of the boa constrictor.
Listen, you know, he might be a little.
little eccentric it's possible but talking about Kennedy might be a little eccentric
okay well yeah bill it look you know Xavier Bacera obviously right this guy's
probably going to be the governor of California he's the one who previously
held Kennedy's post and this is a savage that tried to remove all age
restrictions for gender affirming care on kids right so Kennedy could
eat fricking the bark off of a tree filled with termites.
And I wouldn't care considering the alternative.
Kennedy stays away from the trans stuff.
Basically, he's a guy that doesn't like the vaccine, doesn't trust pharma.
And the one message that has resonated with me is that he has a good view of if you poison your body,
with all a bunch of sugar and carbs and you're eating as garbage,
you're going to pay a price.
Absolutely.
So my son works out in the same gym as RFK Jr.
And who, interestingly enough, and you should talk to him about this,
doesn't, wears jeans in the workout.
No.
No, you got to wear either the spandex or the shorts.
but he wears the Wrangler jeans.
And my son goes, why does he do that?
I go, am I supposed to know everything?
I don't know why.
I don't know why he eats snakes.
I don't know why he does anything.
But anyway, he's good on the diet stuff, I think.
But some of the other stuff is so out there that it erodes his message sometimes.
Well, here's what I would say.
One of the things that Kennedy has spoken about that caused a huge amount of controversy
was the suggestion that a chemical in our water called atrazine could be linked to why so many kids or why the percentage of kids that are gender dysphoric or gay, you know, could it be linked to this chemical in the water?
Now, the reason that he was musing about this is because this chemical literally causes sex changes in frogs.
And then, of course, everybody's like, ah, he's a lunatic.
He's a psycho.
He's a crazy man.
But what they should be asking is, wait, what in the hell is this thing in the water?
Like, they just.
Yeah, but you got to have, you got to have science back that up.
Plus, Kennedy ate the frog so we don't have the evidence.
He said that Fry kind of disappeared.
But I agree that I don't trust a lot of this supplement stuff that's being sold now.
I think it's terrible for you.
And particularly mentally, you know, makes you out of your mind.
His view, Kennedy's view, and again, he's not been nearly as bellicose.
word of the day as he was the first time or the first few months that he was in
office I kind of receded a little I don't know why I know him a little bit so he's
been respectful to me even with the road kill jokes he seems to be able to
process that but we as as society now we have tremendous food industry a lot of
money and they don't want any changes
at all on the American diet and diabetes is through the roof.
Yeah.
I think, listen, if I could speak candidly, in my line of work, the president has done some great
things and he's done some not so great things.
Listen, he's working to cut out the middlemen like the pharmacy benefit managers to lower
drug prices for people.
He's got Dr. Oz working on dealing with pre-authorization problems that prevent people from getting the care that they need in a timely fashion.
They've restructured the dietary guidelines so that food deserts will have healthier food, and healthier food will be more cost-effective.
I could give you a huge list of great things.
I could give you a decent-sized list of things that are not so great, like giving immunity to Monsanto.
for glyphosate, which we know causes non-Hodgkins lymphoma, or having Dr. Marnie McCarray at the FDA push through flavored vapes, which were banned because I was concerned they would entice kids.
Right. I mean, it's ridiculous. You know, look, yeah, there's good and there's bad, but what I will tell you.
Right. And here's the thing. I worked with the Clinton administration in the health space, and I worked with the, the, oh,
Obama administration in the health space. And you know what got done, Bill? Nothing. Zero. So at least
with Trump, we've won a bunch. We lost some, but we won some. And we never won any previously.
So I'm happy about it. Yeah, I mean, it's a mystery because you ever seen what the man eats.
You know, he and Bobby Kennedy are friends. You said you bonded with your father over food.
because Trump, he likes the salt, he likes all that.
But again, I mean, he's working hard.
I don't care what he eats.
As long as we beat the Iranians, you can have five pizzas a day.
I don't care.
But I like the leadership in the sense that Americans are unaware, I think, of the most important part of their health, which is food.
I think most of them are unaware of it.
They don't know.
And a lot of them don't care.
They want to eat what they want to eat.
They don't want O'Reilly telling them,
what are you to the food police?
And my answer to that is, if I worry, you'd be in the penitentiary.
So, anyway, I'm a pleasant guy at all times.
We're going to stop now and let Gillian have a glass of water without anything in it that might.
Turn her into a lizard.
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