Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - We'll Do It LIVE! with Bill O'Reilly - Summer Special | Part Three

Episode Date: September 3, 2026

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Well, that's true to a certain extent, but let's take Scott Pelley, for example. Excellent reporter, I would say? Excellent. Hates Trump. Dripping. Blood dripping. Okay, as Trump once said. Okay.

Blood dripping. Hates him. Leslie Stahl. Appalled by him. Isn't it our obligation to pull that back? I think some of the bill is perception. Oh, come on. I do.

I do. I think some of it is perception. I think that Leslie can be tough on anybody. And I think that Scott the same way. Here's my theory about conservatives. What I just mentioned with all the stuff about fraud and like scandals and crooks and all of that stuff. I think the conservatives tend to look at it like, well, there's a small occasion of the truth. when in fact

it is playing it more down the middle but I don't think the conservatives necessarily like the middle I think they want people to be on their side both sides do though yeah no I buy that listen that's why cable news succeeds yeah because they preach to the choir

yeah I mean they just tell people what they want to hear you know that everybody knows that and that's absolutely hurt the repertorial business I'll talk a little bit about you I didn't know this and I should have known it, you're in Vietnam. Yeah. So you're over in Vietnam and you win a bronze star. You're awarded a bronze star.

But not for combat. One was from service. It doesn't matter what it was. Well, you don't get a bronze star unless you're involved in, you know, combat theater. One for service and one for meritorious achievement. Tell me about Vietnam. I took up five years of my life. I had, you know, I'm counting the two and a half years I was in the service and the two years before when I was worried about what I was going to do.

Because that was in 1968. Right. I got drafted and I got drafted. And you went. And I went. It's an interesting story because I didn't think I really had any choice. My parents were, would never, would never have tolerated me going to Canada,

and they would never have tolerated me going to jail. So the only thing I had to, my only choice was enlisted or being drafted. Okay, but I mean, you came from a traditional family, and was Vietnam worth it in any way? For me? Just in general. I mean, you were a reporter there.

You were writing for stars and stripes or whatever. whatever it may be, you were reserving what was happening. Is there anything worthy about that? Only the learning experience. So the actual war itself, the way it was conducted, the draft and all that, was a negative for America. It was a negative for America, but I do think that it was instructive because I think that McNamara.

Secretary. Yeah, certainly realized and LBJ is certainly realized and that you can't just send American boys off to die without having the country behind you. And I think we're revisiting some of that stuff right now in Iran. Right. But it's a little bit different because of the urgency on the nuke front. Whether you believe it or not, I happen to believe it, I have a fairly good pipeline into what's happening. But I know millions of Americans don't want to believe it. They hate Trump. They think Trump's evil and he's going to do evil things.

Once you get to that point then, rationality disappears. And the reason I asked you about Vietnam was I went over after the war. But I never knew whether we were noble over there or not. We be in the United States. Were we noble trying to save these people from, I think we were noble only, and I use as proof, because I've been back, and they have much more respect for the Americans than they ever had for the French. Yeah, it's money, though, now. I think it was a little bit more.

I think that the French were, you know, they were the colonial power, and that had been going on for really a long time. And but I think that I think that particularly the Japanese or the Vietnamese military people, Jap and those guys had a tremendous amount of respect for Americans. Sure, sure. We were the enemies. But it goes down into history as a deficit on America's sheet. There's no doubt about it.

Tore society apart. And I think that we are divided now in this country. as we were divided in Vietnam. I don't see a lot of difference then. No, I don't either. It's about 50-50. Yeah. And, you know, we're in turbulent times here.

Yeah. I would say that, you know, what you said about, I think that Trump's problems are deeper than Iran in the war. And I think that, you know, a lot of it has to do with the fact that he thinks he can do anything he wants. So if you were covering President Trump, you would be skeptical of him. Well, I would be, I'm trying to be skeptical of everybody. Would you be fair to him? You know, fairness is a strange word. I think my big problem with Trump, it feels to me, and this is 60 minutes in CBS,

I kind of feel like we're in federal receivership. Well, he's a populace. He's a strong man. Yeah, and exactly. And the trustees of this receivership are Trump, Ellison, and Barry Weiss. And they have said quite openly that they think that they need to adjust. Yeah, they need to be fairer to him. more fair.

Yeah. And I agree with that. Because as we talked about with Pelley and I know what I'm doing, so to you. I can see when Leslie Stahl's interviewing Trump and she says to him, well, there's no evidence of Russian collusion, you know, blah, blah, blah. And I'm going, whoa, that's not how you pose that question. Yeah. It's not. And you know better than anybody because you interviewed Obama 17 times.

Yeah. 17 times. Yeah. Something like that. Why did he like you? I think he liked me for, I'm not so sure it was personal. I think he liked the fact that 60 Minutes could deliver almost 20 billion people every time he came. But he also-

He chose you. He could have had Mike. I think because I did the first story on him. I mean, I was the one that covered him during the presidential campaign. Oh, he does. I think he did trust me. And I think he knew that I was not. I was not going to like- Cheap shot him. Cheap shot him. Okay. And you didn't cheap shot.

And I didn't. Let's pivot to Europe. So you would think after all of the terror incidents that Francis had and- If you're watching this show, you've learned more than 99% of the people about what we're up to. That's what we're up to. With the exception of Italy, all of the other big NATO countries are basically saying, look, you do it. it's not that they oppose to downgrading Iran. They're not. They want us to do every thing. Well, it's a little deeper now.

It's not that, you know, be our guest. We hope you're successful. Call us hunt. Let us know how high. No, it's not our war. Well, Sturmur said today. Right. Once you get it under control, then we'll put some ships in.

Yeah. Well, thanks here. So it's a little, you're dead right. They don't want their fingerprints on it, Because a lot of them have very diverse populations that are not into anything called Israel. So they're cowards? I think they're just politicians running scared. That's cowards.

I would think so. So let me just say this. If you're helping Trump or BB in Europe, you're probably not going to get over. But the folks don't know. I mean, they're not doing that. Well, but I'm saying that animosity on the streets of Europe toward Israel and the United States is pretty high right now. So what happened that really is made things worse? Trump is asking for some help to keep the straits flowing.

Right. We get 1% of our oil from the strait to Hermose. Europe gets most of it. Right now, every European politician has not only said no, they've publicly said no. France said today, we'll never get our involved in this Iranian war. This was not our war. An Ayatollah with a nuclear weapon that would terrorize the region and the world and use it is your problem. Hitler became everybody's problem.

So why did Macron say it? Because it's popular, and I don't know other than that, that he's mad that we didn't tell him. If we told the Europeans we're going to attack Iran, it leaked down in five seconds, they can be upset. I get that. But what they can't do is publicly undercut the president because Iran looks at this rift and they may try to hang on. And here's what side. Helping keep the streets open helps them, Europe more than it helps us. And here's how it's going to play out.

If they keep screwing around with Trump, watch out for Ukraine. Because he doesn't think that's our war. Now, I think it's important that we stop Putin. Well, Putin's a big winner in all of this. You know that. But I don't want to get to him until a minute. Okay. Europe. Yeah.

Europe's an unreliable ally. So you're going to, I'm going to morph you into Donald Trump right now. Watch this. This is Mr. comes here. And now it's not Senator Graham. It's President Trump. I'll have more hair. Here is the question.

Was it smart? to say you were going to invade Greenland, that NATO and the EU are a bunch of wusses, okay, was it smart to go over there and poke the European bear because they don't like you now? I might be an abridged too far. You know, I'm a pretty forward-lending guy, but Greenland? But, you know, Trump is Trump. And let me tell you the benefit of being Trump. People are afraid of him.

Was anybody afraid of Obama and Biden? I was afraid of Obama. For a different reason. If you're a foreign power, you wouldn't. You know, Trump could send a rowboat and everybody say, what can we do to help you? You know, Biden could send an aircraft carrier to invite a yawn.

Part of being president is being people's heads. Trump's and everybody's head, including mine. I know, but it worked against him here. Sometimes it does. But the greater good is better. Venezuela, we're better off of that. 100%.

Okay. And they're still dancing for the baseball game. I mean, you know. We'll make some news? I would love Venezuela to be a state. No, you don't want that. Well, that's your opinion. No.

I would. So anyway, Trump said it today, so I won't make it. The point is, Venezuela used to be the center of narco-terrorism. It's no longer. Maduro's in jail. The Venezuelan people are free and they're playing baseball. It worked. But, you know, he got like five seconds of credit.

If a Democrat had done that, they'd stop the entire world and celebrated. If a Democrat acted the way Trump did, they would told the story by the 400 and, 160 killer grams morning, noon, at night. You can't find this story in the mainstream media because they don't want you to know it. So Venezuela was a balsy thing to do, and it worked. Right. Okay, if you're, if you got family in Cuba, they're going to be liberated soon. That's a great thing.

And we're doing it without any troops on the ground. Right. We had a snatch operation, but no occupation, no invasion. Donald Trump, in his own way, is one of the most brilliant people I've ever met in his own way. He can do things nobody else will do. and he's gotten these countries sort of in a spot. Well, Venezuela is liberated.

Cuba's about to be liberated without an invasion. Now, Iran, can we collapse this regime enough to lead to Saudi Israel? If we can, it would be the biggest change in 2000. But you think we can? Yes, I'm highly confident we can,

but we've got to stick with it. Back to Europe. I'm a NATO guy. Now, John McCain was one of my dearest friends. I believe in alliances. But I was stunned at how brazen they were sticking it to Trump on the Hormuz, not thinking it through on Ukraine. So my phone lit up all day to day from European leaders because of my tweet yesterday. I said, you know, I've been pretty strong for alliances, but maybe I'm miscalculated.

Maybe we don't have reliable friends. If you're not willing to help now to help yourself, should we be spending all this money? And coming from me is different than coming from Trump. So I'm Trump. When I would tell my European allies, our European allies, that you're more unreliable than I thought. I'm having to do things without you because you won't help me. And you know what?

I'm getting comfortable doing it. So you leave them hanging on Ukraine, but that helps Putin one of the big villains in the world. I think so. But the truth of the matter is, Ukraine war needs to stay. in honorably and justly. We don't need to reward Putin's invasion, but we got to realize we're not going to get very rushing out. I don't like Putin. You don't like Putin. I think he's killed a lot of people to stay in power. It doesn't matter what I think about Putin. How do you end this war? How do you prevent a third invasion?

I believe with all my heart and soul that if we had real security guarantees from the west of Ukraine, he wouldn't invade it. The Dubu-a-Pest member. No, he tested. He tested. He absolutely tested. And we had no infrastructure to require people to come to aid. Absolutely. And he'll do it again. So the Budapest memorandum was an agreement to help Ukraine, but it wasn't binding. Obama, Biden, Clinton, nobody has ever given security guarantees to Ukraine like we have a NATO. So here's why I'm asking President Trump to entertain.

Let Putin know that if you do this again, you're going to be running into a bigger crowd, not just Ukraine, that the Europeans will have small ground troops as tripwires. And we will have a guarantee to Ukraine. If there's another invasion, we'll be a backstop. We'll provide air support and command and control to defend you if there's a third invasion. I think that's enough to deter that invasion. I don't mind if he does business with Putin because that's the security guarantee of its own. If you do business with somebody, you're less likely to go to war.

The other thing I want to see happen is a 10-year commitment to the Ukrainian military from us that we will sell them our high-end weapons through Europe, and they will be strong, and that's another form of deterrent. Trump's been resistant to that. He had been resistant to selling weapons. He's been resistant to a long-term commitment. The world feels increasingly unstable. Between global conflicts and skyrocketing debt,

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comparable to, you know, the capital of some third world country, as recently as two years ago, I said that's a kind of place where maybe I have something to offer. When the president called, first of all, I was honored, and I knew that it was something that would feed into my wheelhouse. Although I was a local DA in a county of a million people, which is much larger than the district that we're in right now, I was elected and reelected and reelected again.

So I had to be out there in the political sphere. Here, I could do the job and I'm accountable to the people and of course the president. Okay. But you're the DA of Westchester County, just north of New York City. And everybody knows what you do. When there's a crime committed in Westchester County, it comes into your office, you decide whether to prosecute the crime. And then when you make your decision, the other attorneys go and they prosecute. Here, you got the Attorney General of the United States, okay, right across town, all right?

You got a mayor that's not affiliated with Trump. It's a locally elected mayor, Muriel Bowser. So it's almost like a mosaic. So say somebody in D.C. murders somebody. on federal property. Your case or the DA's case? I am the DA.

I mean, or the Attorney General's case. Okay, here's a difference. Remember we talked about the DA handling local crime, street crime, and then you have the federal United States attorney. My office in D.C. and as the United States attorney in the District of Columbia, I am both. I am both the local prosecutor and I am the United States attorney. I am a double hatter.

Everything that happens is mine. So the Attorney General of the United States. Right. Right. She doesn't get involved with the street crime or anything like that in the district. She is, it's no longer, she, the Attorney General, of course, is now acting top blanche. Okay. But to the extent that the president has decided that he is going to make D.C. safe and beautiful with his executive order,

then I am one of the only, if not the only United States attorney who has dual jurisdiction of street crime and federal crime. I am the only one in the country that does both. The attorney general then oversees the FBI, oversees the crimes that cut across federal crimes. Right. Right. Now, I was surprised I had seen Pam Bondi on St. Patrick's Day.

Nice conversation. always got along with her. I'm surprised that she left. Does that surprise you? I think she was asked to leave. That's my understanding. I'm not surprised because the president wants things done.

And he needs someone who is going to aggressively pursue the agenda that needs to be done. And so now, I think he sees in Todd Blanche, the acting attorney, general. A more aggressive person. A more aggressive person. Okay, I don't think there's any doubt about that. Yeah, and I think that that's what the president wants. Okay. Do you have anything to do with the Epstein situation? Absolutely not. Okay, because that vexed Pam Bondi, that vexed her.

Yes. She made an initial mistake by saying, I got this file, and then everybody goes, what file? Let me see the file. Yeah, and a client list and all that. But you don't have anything to do with Epstein? No, no. No, because there isn't anything in my jurisdiction that involves any of the Epstein victims or, and if someone had a case where they want to claim, and I just started a hotline, a tip line for Eric Swalwell. Once it was determined in California that he has been engaging in inappropriate, if not criminal behavior, allegations, that, you know, I would look into it as well. So just as I'm doing that with Swalwell, I'll do that with any crime victim. I am an aggressive prosecutor. As long as it took place in the D.C. area.

Right. All right. So tell me why the nation's capital had so many murders. Why? I'll tell you why. The nation's capital had so many murders because there was not a focus on law and order. There was not, we have a D.C. Council. The D.C. Council has laws that cover the

The superior court, they can be murderers and they can be, you know, assaults, sex crimes, burglaries, robberies, but they allow for the kind of sentencing that is so absurd, Bill, you would be stunned. So if you have someone who is under the age of 25 and kills three people in the D.C. court, not even the federal part of my job, but the local. And the court gives him 30 years for one, 30 years for another, and 90 years. because of the D.C. Council, after 15 years, he can get out. He doesn't have to prove he's sorry. He doesn't have to say what he did was wrong.

They just figured he was under 25. We've got to give him another shot. So you're saying that the D.C. City Council, elected by the locals, by the locals. Too soft on crime. Too soft on crime is a kind way of saying it. What they are doing is they are allowing young people, teenagers to commit crimes in my view, but allowing them to go into the juvenile justice system

and the family court where the focus is not punishment, deterrence, or retribution. It's rehabilitation. But that rehabilitation is yoga and ice cream social. There's no accountability. And so these young punks end up with a rap sheet a mile long. By the time they get to me, Bill, they're committing a murder. I look at their juvenile. juvenile rap sheet. They've got robbery, car theft, they've got burglary, assault with a dangerous weapon. It's crazy. So... This is like New York...

Worse. It's worse than New York. Definitely worse than New York. Okay. Because when I was a prosecutor in New York, if you committed a murder at 14, I could prosecute you. Here I cannot. What happened to the Democrats is the Democrats lost, right, to Donald Trump. And then they became lost.

This is a party in transition. This is a party with a simmering civil war. We're trying to figure out our identity as Democrats. And you have a far left. And you always had a far left. But this far left is much further left and is much louder and is much more aggressive. And they have frightened the moderates into submission. It's not that they're...

How do you do that, though? You're not frightened, are you? No, no. But they threaten. They threaten. If you are a moderate Democrat, they are going to primary you. And the extremes have always been very strong in the primary process, whether it was far right, Tea Party days, far left.

In the primaries, they are very strong. And they are very open and aggressive and hostile. And if you are a moderate Democrat, they are going to come after you and they are going to challenge you. And they have a lot of money and a lot of organizations on the socialist side, on the communist side, on the anti-Israel side, and they have frightened the moderate Democrats into submission. Okay.

On the surface, that answer is, makes a lot of sense. but you went up against a communist Mammani in your hometown and he beat you. I was surprised. I thought you were going to wax them. Yeah, well, look, but that is the point. You have, in the primary, the far left... But it wasn't a primary. It was you. It was him.

And it was Slewa. Well, in the general... But that's what I'm talking about. All right. Well, first, in the primary, it was disproportionately a far left vote, a younger vote. Fine. Anti-Israel. But you had a chance one-on-one with this guy and he beat you. Yes. One-on-one, if you take, it was a three-way. If you took Curtis Slewa out of the race. 7%. 7%. It's basically a dead tie. And if you take Curtis Slewa out of the race,

I would have beaten him because Slewa was attacking me every day as a slot. show. On the debate stage bill, I think it's objectively fair to say, on the debate stage, I beat Zoran clearly, but you then had Curtis who would come to his defense. One on one, I would have beaten him. But you should have beaten him four on one. In the primary? No, in a manger, election. I mean, you're a three-term governor. You had legacy as your father was a moderate Democrat icon. I went through my correspondence last night. I have two letters from your father. And he was very astute in politics. And I was wondering what Mario would have thought about a communist beating his son. For the mayoral...

Yeah, Bill, this is a... This is a different Democratic Party. Some conversations, you can't afford to get wrong. A business meeting, a big phone call, an interview. The kind of conversation where one detail matters later, and you don't want to be relying on memory or scrambling through handwritten notes to find it. That's where Plod Note Pro comes in. Plod Note Pro captures your important conversations and turns them into a clear, organized record you can actually use later, with transcripts, summaries, and key takeaways so you can stay focused on the discussion instead of trying to write everything down. And when you need something later, you don't have to search through an hour-long recording. Just ask Plod what was decided, what was said about a specific topic, or what the next

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code bill for 10% off. Plod.a-i-slash-bill. Code bill. So all these people who used to be moderates are all crazy socialists now? You now have, well, look, you never had the word socialist, right? Ten years ago, nobody was a socialist.

Yeah, that's right. Nobody was a socialist. Zoron shows up at the Mayday rally. as a communist. He's a communist. There's no doubt he is. So this never existed before. You have a whole generation of young people who are socialist slash communists. How did they get that way? Recently, in reaction to Trump, Bernie Sanders, AOC, no kings rallies. All across the country, getting hundreds of thousands of young people engaged. And then these false promises, free everything. Free buses, free's the rent, free food, everything free.

And this sense of indignation and social justice, no kings, do away with the billionaires, tax the rich. And they buy all this? Are they stupid? They are young and they buy it. They are young and they buy it. You were young? I was young. I never bought it.

I knew what communism. was from the jump. Yeah. Well, it sounds good. Everything, you're going to freeze my rent? Great. Free buses? Great. Free grocery stores. Great. Tax the rich. Yeah. Screw the rich. You know. They're rich. I'm not. So it sounds good. And you had a disproportionately. These young people voted in massive numbers. and they're very organized. There's a lot of money behind this far left movement. Is this Soros money, these guys? This is Soros at all.

Do you know why a guy like Soros who lives in Westchester, fairly near where you once lived, and has got all the money he could possibly have? Why does he want a communist nation? Do you know? This is his philosophy. He has been for a long time. But you never talk to him about it.

No, no. Because this guy has a lot of damage. Now, you worked Secretary of HUD for Bill Clinton. You say Bill Clinton pretty astute a politician? I think he was great president, great politician. Okay. So I talked to him a number of times, and the guy knows politics inside and out. Okay.

I was surprised that a guy like him, maybe Hillary, others, Barack Obama, didn't come to your aid when the far left of your own party attacked you here. Letitia James, Hockel, the governor. Your own people took you out, but we didn't hear from the other people who knew you and knew what your public service record was. You're surprised? Look, if you want loyalty in politics, get a dog, right? Is the old expression. First, many of them did.

Bill Clinton supported me in the mayor-roll election. And you're right, it was HUD Secretary. I was with him from day one to the last day of the administration. And we did great work for this country. But it's back to the first point. the far left, Me Too movement. There was a lot of energy around the Me Too movement. Nobody wanted to stand up to Me Too.

And the far left of the party wanted me out. Why? Because I was not far left enough. Which is ironic, by the way, because all my life, I'm too liberal, right? I'm first big state to pass marriage equality. New York, highest minimum wage in the United States of America. New York, best gun law in the nation, New York. I'm too liberal all my life, but they are then so extreme that I am not left enough.

Okay, so you just didn't toll. But Hockel, she's whatever it is on Thursday. I mean, right? Hockel's not an ideologue. I don't see a Letitia James, absolutely. But Hockel is like, and you made Hokel. Hockel was my lieutenant governor. Yes. I told her that I was going to run again and I was not going to run her again as lieutenant governor. That's what did it, huh? That didn't help. When you need medication, whether it's for allergies, the flu, daily prescription,

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I did. So I did sports and I covered boxing. And for years, HBO had what they called Radio Row at all their big fights, Bill. I'm talking about Las Vegas, Dallas, Los Angeles, specifically Mike Tyson. So I think I probably did my show, live from the HBO Radio Row for Mike Tyson fights 20 times. Now, this is after his prison stay. So, you know, he's the back nine, but he's winning.

You know, he's beating Francois, both Todd. He's beating all these, basically, tomato cans, until he wasn't into people like he ran to Holyfield and Lennox Lewis. But I would see Trump at these events, and Trump was a big Tyson guy. And I had him on the show once or twice. In fact, when he was on, not the last time he was on the president, But the time before that, he was still campaigning.

It wasn't president yet. We're going back a couple of years. And he said, you know, Sid, he goes, I'm proud of you. He said, you don't remember, which I do. He said, you don't remember, but I knew you when, when I was struggling. And let me say this about President Trump. He's never had a drink. You know this.

Maybe your audience says, maybe they don't. He's never had a drink. He loved his brother, and his brother died from alcoholism. Right. The fact that I've been able to maintain my sobriety, and achieve what we've been talking about, sober and good for all these years. If you don't think that's part of the reason

why President Trump has this affection for me, not you, but you're somewhere between naive and stupid and closer to the latter, he absolutely loves that about me, that I put it away. I don't do that stuff anymore. He's never done that. So he said to me, he goes, I remember you when I was out at Super Bowl parties.

I would see him in different locations, and I was whacked out. So I did know him. He did do my sport shows every now and then, but certainly not the friendship that we've got today. Okay. So in New York City, a huge anti-Trump movement. When you became a full-fledged Trump guy. I mean, the worst.

I'm the worst. Well, you love him. I love him. Yeah. I know. Did you take a lot of heat from the Upper West Siders? I mean, were you getting death threats? and all on that?

All that. So, God, you ask great questions. You know, in 2015 in Florida, I was still in Florida doing sports. And I had this lady, she worked at my sister station. It was a political station. Her name is Joyce Kaupman. She's number one in news talk down in Florida.

Yeah, I know, Joyce. You know, oh, you do? Great. So I would do her political show. She would do my sports show. And she loved Trump. And I'd say, what are you nuts? Listen, I like the guy, too.

But the guy, he does a television show. How's you going to run this country? We're a mess. Obama killed it. I hated Obama. I said, but this guy can't help us. So I came to New York in 2016, and the first year of my show with Bernard, the midday show, all we did was fight. That's all we did. He loved Trump. They have a nice little relationship. And I liked Trump, but thought he was, I thought it was one of the worst candidates I've ever seen. I actually told him that. I said, I knew nothing about you. You're going to build a wall and wear a stupid hat. That's all I saw from you. What else were you going to do? So you weren't immediately. on his team. Bill, I voted for Hillary. I wrote. And I told him that. He comes on with me and Bernard in 2017. And that's the first time we ever had him on.

And I said, Mr. President. Bernard, asked him some question. I said, Mr. President, how I said. I said, I've got to be honest. I've known you for years. Oh, yeah. I said, I didn't vote for you. I said, I really didn't think you can become

the president that you are today. So the good news is it took me about three months to come to the realization, you're the best ever. But the truth is, I didn't vote for you. I didn't buy it. Your whole campaign, I thought was silly. So the interview goes on about other 10 minutes, and Bernard's about to wrap up the interview, and he goes back to it. He goes, how about it, Bernard? I changed him. I changed him. That's only wanted to talk about was that, yes, he loved it. Listen, all the folks that loved him when he came down the escalator, he likes those guys. Even some of the folks that hate him, but you showed Trump somebody who he was able to

change to the guy I am today, which is the biggest Trump supporter in the world. He loves that. That's me. Didn't like him as a president. Took me a very short amount of time to figure out, boy, this guy's good. Okay. And then I know you're invested in Israel and he's obviously in Israel supporter, President Trump is and has helped Israel. So that was a part of Right? Well, when you say helped Israel, it's fair to say that no president in the history of our country has come even close. Harry Truman, he did a lot. He did, but not Abraham Accords moved the, of course, the embassy to Jerusalem, recognize the goal on heights. I mean, I can go over 10 things that Trump did. Harry didn't do that. Harry, terrific, no question, but no one's come close to Trump. Okay. So then you become an activist on Trump's behalf. All right? And you go to the,

Biden's state of the union. And I don't know why they let you in. I certainly wouldn't have. Just the tan alone, you wouldn't have gotten by the door. And you yell out, okay, says who? That's right. On what did Biden say that rankled you there? I'm going to tell you.

By the way, I yelled that out. Alan Dershowitz, who announced last week, he's now a Republican, after 87 years. He's a brilliant attorney. I love Alan. He's writing a new book, and he's doing a whole chapter in the book on me saying, says who, at that speech. He felt like that was a huge moment. Believe it or not, this is Alan Dershowitz. So that's surreal for me. So I'm sitting upstairs, right, because I'm not one of the house members, Anthony De Esposito from your neck of the woods. He brought me to the State of the Union. I'm sitting upstairs, and at that point, we're really in heat of the Israel war, real heat. And they're starting to get some unfair criticism from people

in the United States and all across the walls, and I'm getting angrier about the anti-Semitism and Israel every day. And I figure Biden's going to get to that wood only in his speech, okay? He had hostages sitting up there with me. Hostages, okay? 10 minutes in, nothing, 20 minutes in, I'm like murmuring, screaming under my breath, but it wasn't under my breath. So the CNN guy in front to me, the other somebody's going to, hey, sir, could you, could you calm down? We can hear you. I said, okay, I'm just, you know, I'm getting frustrated. Once you're going to talk about Israel. 40 minutes in, nothing. Finally, about 50 minutes into this dreadful speech, and Ben was it dreadful? He was all jacked up on something. I don't know, so he wasn't falling asleep, but it was awful.

He finally gets to Israel. And he goes, listen, he goes, we, you know, we're friends with Israel, but according to the Palestinian health ministry, which you know, Bill O'Reilly, the Palestinian help ministry is won by Hamas. Bang. According to Hamas, he could have said, the Israelis have already killed 30,000 Palestinians. This is three years ago. My blood started to boil. I actually considered jumping over and just landing on top of him and pummeling him.

I swear to God. You were to be shot to death. Of course. Well, I don't know. These days, you know, they couldn't shoot our guy a couple of nights ago. But on a serious note, I stand up when I go, says who? And it took seconds. Three guys come rushing in, Capitol Police Secret Service.

They grabbed me, and they say to me, sir, you have to leave. And I said, why? Look at those ladies down there with the white shirts, a Democrat, with the white shirts. They're dancing, they're singing, they've got paddles, they're yelling, all this stuff. I said two words. I'm not going anywhere. So the Secret Service guy, Bill, puts his hand on my wrist. This is when you know I'm crazy.

I go, you don't want to do that. I'm talking to the cops. This guy could arrest me, and then it occurred to me. Wait a second. I can't say that to him. You know? It did occur to you. It did occur to you.

All right. Yes. And he said, okay, well, here's a deal. If you don't get up and leave now, we're going to arrest you. We may arrest you anyway. But at the very least, give yourself a chance. So I exited the room. On your own will.

On my own will. Okay. Jim Comor is out there from Kentucky. Way to go. Emily Austin. one of your people from Nassau County. Way to go, you're a hero. And I'm standing there for 30 minutes

because the sergeant-at-arms was considering whether to arrest me or not. When they decided after 30 minutes, I can go home. I had to get Anthony Di Esposito. He was down in the chamber to escort me out of the building like your daddy would do when you're eight years old at school. But needless to say, that hit the wires at NBC less than an hour later, and I became that guy.

thrown out of the state of the union, still one of my finest moments.