Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - What to Learn From the Debates, the Next COVID Shot, Stephen A. Smith on Politics, Ambassador Gordon Sondland on Diplomacy Under Trump, & More

Episode Date: October 27, 2022

Tonight's rundown: Talking Points Memo: Two state debates last night, Bill breaks down the bigger picture. How do they impact the country as a whole? President Biden gets his fifth Covid shot ESPN...'s Stephen A. Smith on politics, race, and expanding beyond sports Ambassador Gordon Sondland on diplomacy under former President Trump This Day in History: The gunfight at the O.K. Corral Final Thought: Why Bill is off tomorrow In Case You Missed It: Read Bill's latest column, "The Legend of Sleepy Joe" Get a BillOReilly.com Premium Membership today and get "Killing the Legends" free! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to the News, Wednesday, October 26, 2022, stand up for your country. Two very interesting debates last night, one in Pennsylvania, one here in New York, and that is the subject of this evening's Talking Points memo. So I'm going to go to the Hockel-Zeldon gubernatorial debate first because the other one with Oz Fetterman is a little bit more problematic. And I talked about it with Hannity today on this radio program, but I want to say something about that. Look, in New York State, it's a disaster. I mean, this Kathy Hogan, Hocal can't run the state.
Starting point is 00:00:52 She's had about a year to do it. Crime is just gruesome in the city. and other places in the state, highest taxed state in the union, infrastructure breaking down. It's a horror show across the board, even if it weren't Halloween season. So last night, Zeldon, a Republican, is trying to, you know, bring this crime thing in. And what Hockel said is pretty shocking. But first, I want to tell you that in New York, it's two-to-one registration dems over Republicans. So there shouldn't even be a race.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Last time Cuomo won by 24 points. But Zelda's neck and neck with Hockel. Here's why, Rowley. I stated that the first day that I'm in office, I'm going to declare a crime emergency and suspend Castle's bail and these other pro-criminal laws because there is a crime emergency.
Starting point is 00:01:46 My opponent thinks that right now there's a polio emergency going on, but there's not a crime emergency. Different priorities that I'm hearing from people right now, they're not being represented from this this governor who still to this moment we're at what we halfway through the debate she still hasn't talked about locking up anyone committing any crimes okay anyone who commits a crime under our laws especially with the change we made to bail has consequences i don't know why that's so important you all i know is that we could do more well when
Starting point is 00:02:14 i said we could do more excuse me i'm speaking sure go ahead we could do so much more if there was a nationwide ban but certainly a state ban on teenagers being able to get guns assault weapons. New York State has lost twice in the federal courts on the gun ban stuff. So this is just, she's blowing smoke. And she's not interested in banning gun criminals. She wants to ban guns. And she says, there are consequences if you break our laws.
Starting point is 00:02:44 No, there aren't. There are not consequences. You can literally walk down a street in New York City, punch someone in the mouth, knock out their upper front teeth, and you will not get charged by the district attorney Alvin Bray. How many times do we have to document that this happens? So Hockel doesn't care. If she cared, she would have done something before 13 days of the election, right?
Starting point is 00:03:14 This is not just magically appeared. So anyway, Zelden's going to win. I don't know why this is so important to you that she says. Are you blank and kidding me, lady? You don't know why it's important? There are dead people in the street, mostly African Americans. And that's why it's important. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:46 If Zeldon doesn't win this, New York State is They're going to lose five million more people in the four years that she's governor. All right, Pennsylvania. Now, this, I come at this differently. Federman should not be in the race. He can't perform the duties of a senator. He can't speak. He can't process information.
Starting point is 00:04:15 He can't do anything. I'm going to run one. small clip in deference of his stroke. He had a stroke. So most people would say, okay, I'm not going to run this time around. I'm going to recover from my stroke. I'm going to defer to someone else because I can't do it. Not Fetterman. Go. I do want to clarify something. You're saying tonight that you support fracking, that you've always supported fracking. But there is that 2018 interview that you said, quote, I don't support fracking at all. So how do you square the do. I do support fracking and I don't I don't I support fracking and I don't I support fracking and I do support fracking
Starting point is 00:05:05 but the record is clear that up until last night he did not. Anyway, the man is diminished, okay, he's diminished. And he's going to lose. Oz will win. And Hannity asked me, do you feel sorry for Fetterman? And I answered no. And the reason is, because Fetterman is seeking power. That's why these guys do this and gals. They want power. And I feel sorry he had a stroke. I feel sorry for anybody who has a physical malady. But do I feel sorry for Federman up there on that stage? I do not. He should not be there. Okay, they had a snap poll after the Federman Oz debate, WPXI, who won Oz 82, Federman 18, WHTM, another television station, 77 say Oz won, 23% say Federman won. It's over. It's over. I mean, how could you vote for an incapacitated man?
Starting point is 00:06:14 Billions will. I don't know how you could. All right, President Biden, he's going to provide families with more breathing room. I don't know whether that means we get oxygen paid for by the federal government. I don't really know what that means. And then he does some Democratic stuff at night. Okay, that's pretty much what he does. Tonight I will be talking about President and Biden and Donald Trump on News Nation, about 815 Eastern Time, if you want to do into that. Not boring. Either is this, which you're listening and watching to, but I'd like to get out to other precincts to discuss my point of view.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Biden yesterday got his fifth COVID shot. He's had COVID twice. The fifth shot doesn't prevent you from getting cold. I understand, but I still can't get anybody to explain to me why I should get it. I have four shots, the two regulars and the two boosters. But I'm waiting for my doctor who have asked, should I get this? If I do get it, what is it going to do to me or for me? Do I have to get them every six months?
Starting point is 00:07:34 What do I have to do before I get an explanation? I'm not getting it. CDC, I mean, come on, Tachi ruined it, whatever they say, everybody's rolls her eyes. But I'm still open-minded enough to look at data. If the CDC posts data, there's a fifth booster shot against COVID, we'll do this for you, O'Reilly. I'll read it. I'm not opposed to getting it, but I'd like to know what it's going to do, if anything. Not unreasonable.
Starting point is 00:08:05 New York State Supreme Court reinstates all employees fired for being. unvaccinated. This is Hockel and Adams, the mayor in New York City. So they fire about 1,750 city workers. Sionara, cut them off from their pay, buy, and don't reapply. The New York State Supreme Court says, you can't do that. All right, you're violating their rights because, quote, being vaccinated does not prevent an individual from contracting or transmitting COVID. this is the court so all of them get reinstated with back pay 65 million dollars i'm paying the highest taxes in the country living in a new york state this is what i mean this is what i mean we have people in this state they don't know what they're doing now at the very least
Starting point is 00:09:06 if you didn't want people unvaccinated you say you have to work from home Or you have to take a leave of absence, but firing them violates their rights. And I said that from the very beginning. One more before we get to our guest who's warming up in a bullpen now. Nancy Pelosi is the last of the true believers. What do I mean by that? She's the last high-profile politician going around saying the Democrats are going to win the House and the Senate on November 8th. I don't count cheap at night. I count districts. I go one
Starting point is 00:09:47 by one. Part of it is I cannot believe anybody would vote for these people. So she says we're going to get an election where nobody's going to vote for Republicans, Nancy Pelosi. Now, the woman's aloon. You know, she is. We do you see the post-mortem on her after November 8th. So you guys know the name Stephen A. Smith. He's ESPN's biggest star right now, in my opinion. I mean, Tony Kornheiser is amazingly charismatic, but Stephen A. Smith, he's the big name. He's a big gun over there. But Smith is not satisfied with being the sports major domo. He now wants to get into politics. Here he is on the Mars show. Go. Way on earth that you agree with everything. You can run across people who are like-minded and they don't agree on.
Starting point is 00:10:40 everything but they've tried to convince us because of this two-party system we're dealing with that you're either on the right or you're on the left and you can't be independent so smith joining us now from new york city uh has a political podcast no mercy podcast you talk sports too but you talk to pinheads like me too uh about i wouldn't call it a political podcast It's just that I'm not restricted sports. I talk politics, I talk news, I talk pop culture and entertainment. I talk it all, and that's how I like it. And the fact that I don't have any limitations whatsoever,
Starting point is 00:11:20 that's what appeals to me. And the way I look at it, you know, I've been on Bill O'Reilly on numerous occasions, showing Hannity with numerous occasions, Mark Levin, numerous occasions. I've been on CNN, MSNBC. Hell, everybody calls me anyway, so I might as far have my own podcast to talk about these issues too. But why do you want to do politics? I mean, why do you want to get into that? world where you know you're going to be vilify it's bad in sports i know it is but it's not
Starting point is 00:11:46 nearly what it is in politics um but number one because i care number two because i'm not scared number three because as a black man i think it's incredibly important that we bring some balance into the equation like for example i'm a registered independent bill um there are democratic policies i agree with there are i'm a fiscal conservative though i don't like paying it i don't like the high taxes in New York. I don't like the high taxes in California. But more importantly than anything else, it's just a pet peeve of mine, certainly not trying to come across as a political aficionado, because I certainly don't know what you know, what your man, Chris Cuomo, who showed you going on tonight knows. I'm not on that level. I'm not pretending to be. But I've
Starting point is 00:12:26 got common sense, and I read, and I pay attention to some degree. One of the things that I don't like as an African American in this country is that we've got one side. We don't really have representation. And here's what I mean by that. We've got a Democratic Party, for example, although I agree with some of their policies because I'm a social liberal to some degree. I don't like the fact that your plan on convincing me to vote for you instead of Republicans is patent everybody as racist and demagoguing them. I don't like that. Tell me what your policies are. Let them tell me what their policies are.
Starting point is 00:12:59 And let me make the choice as to which policies better suit me and better suit my community, as opposed to engaging in hate mongering and, fear-mongering and allowing that to manipulate how we vote as a community. I think on far too many occasions we're seeing that, and then all of a sudden, when folks get into office, we find out that we really don't have any representation because we didn't pay attention to how they were going to truly vote on the issues that are pertinent and irrelevant to our community. And that's pretty noble, and I like that answer. I think that's a well-thought-out answer.
Starting point is 00:13:32 But it's very hard to be an independent in New York. I am. Like you, I'm a registered independent. But the Democrats have screwed the state up so badly, I can't possibly vote for any of them. And I did last time around. I voted for a couple of Democrats last time around. I can't now. That's how bad this state is.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Well, let me be very, very clear. I don't normally agree with Bill O'Reilly, as Bill O'Reilly knows because you've known me for years now. But I agree with you on that. I wouldn't vote for O'Kul. I'd be the first to tell you that. I'm not apologetic about that. And crime does matter. Now, I'm mindful, and I pay attention to things from an historical perspective to at least to some degree.
Starting point is 00:14:12 I remember back in the days when the Nixon administration used law and order and scared of living daylights out of folks in the curry boats. I've seen numerous people, numerous politicians do that throughout the years, but it doesn't mean that you're wrong in this situation if you point to that in New York City. I am born and raised. I was born in the Bronx, raised in Hollis, Queens, New York City. I have never seen it as bad as it is today. I'm mindful. It's never been as bad. They don't fear the authorities, they, the criminal elements.
Starting point is 00:14:41 You got people getting left out and let out of jail without even bail. Here's the worst part about it. The worst part about it is in the neighborhoods in which you grow up and other neighborhoods today, the elderly good people, I don't care what the color they are. I got you. They can't go to the grocery store. All right? And the little kids can't go to the park. because there's drug addicts injecting themselves with narcotics right in front of them and their mom.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Well, let me say this. That's a total breakdown. That's happened. But I can tell you, as a guy that grew up in Hollis, and the whole drug thing was very, very prevalent. Bill, as a community, we can work our way around that. What we can't work our way around is the violence. The fact that you're young, you're old, it doesn't matter who you are. Violence is just sifting through our communities like a virus.
Starting point is 00:15:42 It's nonstop. You got people being attacked in the subways. You got people being attacked at bus stops. You got people defending themselves in delis, but by felons, assaulting them and getting thrown in jail for 30 days before a point was made. It is just way out of whack. It's out of control.
Starting point is 00:15:59 The most powerless people are getting hurt. That is correct. More than you and me because we can protect our society. We have resources. They do not. Now, I sent you my book, Killing the Legends, The Lethal Danger of Celebrity Early, because I wanted to get your take on Muhammad Ali, perhaps the most successful African American athlete in history.
Starting point is 00:16:24 You can make an argument to that. And what I lay out about Ali is that his life, even though he accomplished so much, was crushed Because he was betrayed and he could not handle his celebrity. What say you? Betrayed by whom? The nation of Islam, who took over his whole life, who took money from him at an astronomical degree and kept him fighting. When his own doctor said, no, the nation of Islam, Herbert Muhammad, put him in a ring.
Starting point is 00:17:04 I am not familiar with that. What I am familiar with is how Don King robbed a few people. Well, I don't talk about King now. So you didn't read the Ali part of the book, so I'll lay it out to you. You need to read it because if you're going to do a no mercy podcast, this is no mercy. So here you have an Olympic gold medal winner, comes back to the United States, proud all of this. He signs up with the nation of Islam. Who heads that now?
Starting point is 00:17:36 Lewis Farrakoff. So we know what that is. They take over his whole life. His whole life descends into chaos. I open with the Thriller in Manila where Joe Frazier almost killed him. Yes. Almost killed Ali and Ali almost blinded him. And Ali almost killed him.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Yeah. Almost blinded him. Ferdi Bacheco says to Ali, you can't fight for a year after this beating because you're almost dead. Four months later, Herbert Mohammed books him for another fight. And when I was writing this, I was so stunned that this could happen to a guy like Mohammed Ali. And it's important that people know what celebrity is. I will tell you this.
Starting point is 00:18:20 You can look at it that way. And listen, here's what I would tell you. Let's take into account the times that we're living in it because we find ourselves, as African Americans in this nation, encountering such issues. It's the year 2020. Bill, with all the black folks that you see on TV, the position that I'm in doing first take every morning on the ESPN, having the number one show for 11 years,
Starting point is 00:18:42 you can relate to that with how long you are on top doing your show on Fox News for two decades for crying out loud. When you have that voice and that quote-unquote bully pulpit per se, people come to you for a lot of things that they want you to serve. And especially when you're black, one of the things that I'm popularized that I'm very popular for saying is, white folks go to work every day with a job to do black folks come with a responsibility because we always feel like there's so few of us in these peak in these on these purchase and these ideal conditions that people will come to you asking you to do things that ain't even relevant to you they came to me asking me to speak about Trayvon Martin they wanted me to speak about George Floyd and stuff like that and I'm a sports I'm a sports analyst this is what the expectation was so now we wind the clock to the 70s when Ali was at his height And he was doing all the things that he was doing.
Starting point is 00:19:34 And the nation of Islam, along where black people universally across this country were trying to elevate in American society, civil rights. It's just been passed in 64. The Voting Rights Act passed in 65. But there was still mountains that you had to climb, which Malcolm X before he was assassinated, which Dr. Martin Luther King articulated before he was assassinated. So that pressure that was brought to bear, it wasn't just about money. It wasn't just about, you know, padding the white.
Starting point is 00:20:01 of people. People wanted to use whoever had a profound voice for a multitude of reasons to help uplift a community. At least that's what they were saying. I don't buy the noble... I hope you'll come back after you read, Killing the Legends, because there was no nobility involved in at at all. It was a pure money play, just like Elvis Presley was sold out by his manager, Tom Parker, Ali was sold out by Herbert Mohamed. And there's no doubt, about it was no higher calling here okay tell me about no mercy podcast i'd like the name so if i come on you're you're not going to have any mercy on me i'm i'm older than you step even come on remember it's remember it says k-n-o-w to no mercy doesn't say no mercy like it says k-n-w mercy okay oh no mercy
Starting point is 00:20:51 so my producer has it wrong here so it's k-n-o-w all right well i'm a little merciful not too much That's right. Exactly. Exactly. You know, and so the point is, is really, you know, obviously I'm willing to tackle any issues that are pertinent and irrelevant, but more importantly, I also want to touch on issues that are not only percolating, but direct people, the folks that they should be listening to, the kind of intel that they can receive from listening to people who have substantive things to say. I interviewed Chris Coleman already. I interview Sean Hannity already. Those are two people on the opposite ends of the spectrum. My whole point is listen to both sides. Take from it what you will. ask the pertinent questions that people care about and then make them have their own judgment. Same thing with Bill O'Reilly. When I had Bill O'Reilly on, S is going to be along those lines. It's going to be about you. It's going to be about what you feel. It's going to be how you came to draw the conclusions that you've drawn on a multitude of issues that have affected and impacted your life along with anordinate amount of audience that you've had throughout the years. It's basically telling those stories and just not being limited.
Starting point is 00:21:54 I'm very proud to be working for ESPN. I've been very blessed and fortunate to achieve what I have. But I've never wanted to be limited to just one genre. All right. You can watch David A's No Mercy with a K, three episodes a week. So you're the busiest guy around. We also got a book, Straight Shooter, a memoir of Second Chances and First Takes coming out in January. You can order that on Amazon, pre-order that. So you're a busy guy.
Starting point is 00:22:20 You're a successful guy. I know you love your country because you couldn't have done it anywhere else on Earth. That's right. And that's something we want to talk about on your podcast. and when you invite me on, Stephen, I'll take it easy on you. I'll carry you through it. I appreciate that, man. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:22:37 That's be so kind of you, Bill. And we appreciate you coming on tonight. Stephen A. Smith, everyone. Power, politics, and the people behind the headlines. I'm Miranda Devine, New York Post columnist, and the host of the brand new podcast, Podforce One. Every week, I'll sit down for candid conversations. with Washington's most powerful disruptors,
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Starting point is 00:24:15 They found out that this year alone, about 64,000 cases where migrants had been deported or had been turned down for what they requested, have been lost. God. OK, do you know that? I didn't know that. And the excuse is that Homeland Security is so overwhelmed by the two million that have come in this year alone that they can't adjudicate the cases.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Now, that sounds logical. But that means it's 65,000 people who should not be allowed here are going to stay here because the judge is going to rule well or the government screwed it up so we're not going to kick you out unbelievable and i mean that word literally so what does donald trump and hillary clinton have in common they have something in common roll the tape right wing extremists already have a plan to literally steal the next presidential election. And they're not making a secret of it. The right-wing-controlled Supreme Court may be poised to rule on giving state legislatures. Yes, you heard me that correctly. State legislatures
Starting point is 00:25:44 the power to overturn presidential elections. Oh, and a bunch of hooey. So those white supremacists, right-wing extremists, yeah, they're working to get our rights and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But Trump says the same thing, but it's left-wing extremists on his side, the elections are phony. And Hillary said elections are voting. Now, the elections aren't phony, but there are improvements that have to be made by the individual states because that's the Constitution. Each state is responsible for running the vote in that state, in the borders of that state. Feds don't have anything to do with it. Supreme Court can rule based on evidence, but that's a bunch of hoot. Okay, so there's another book out that I want you to consider.
Starting point is 00:26:40 It's called The Envoy, Mastering the Art of Diplomacy with Trump and the World. It was written by, it is written by, the former ambassador to the EU under the Trump administration, the former president hired and dismissed Gordon Sondland, who joins us now from New York City. Mr. Ambassador, I used to have you in. I was reading your book last night. It is written by. I'm not dead. No, I know.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Sometimes I'm brain dead, and that's why I make those tense problems. So I'm reading your book last night, and I couldn't really get a handle. You testified in front of the impeachment committee, and Trump was impeached on this call that he made to Zelensky in Ukraine about looking into the Biden situation. You testified. You never said, as far as I can see, that Trump did anything unconstitutional. Is that correct? That's 100% correct, Bill. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:45 So you never said that. But you weren't exactly sticking up for Trump, thereby, giving the dishonest opposition a pathway to say, well, Ambassador Sondland, he wasn't a fan of Trump, and he thinks he did stuff wrong. Would that be correct? Well, listen, Bill, my job wasn't to stick up for President Trump, nor was it to hurt President Trump. I didn't want to testify in the first place. I would have been happy to go back to Brussels and get back to my job. I can't say the same thing about some of the other witnesses who clearly had an agenda to undermine the administration, both when they were working in the administration and afterwards when they testify. All I wanted to do was get in front of the committee, tell the truth, not commit perjury, and get out of there.
Starting point is 00:28:34 And if that helped the president, great. If it hurt the president, I'm sorry, but the truth is the truth. Okay, admirable. Now, my analysis of the situation was the impeachment was a farce. that Trump really didn't do anything wrong. He wanted to find out if there was corruption involving the Biden family and if Ukraine was helping in the Russian collusion stuff. That's what he wanted to find out. You know I know Trump for 30 years. So when Trump talks to you, as he did to Zelensky on the phone call that everybody saw, Trump said it was perfect. He basically says, look, we need to find out what happened. Number one, I think that's a legitimate thing to try to find out. Was there a problem or corruption involving the Biden family?
Starting point is 00:29:27 Am I wrong on that? Well, let me narrowly focus the conversation on my role, because I can only speak to what I knew and what I did, not what happened outside of my knowledge or my presence. When we got back from Ukraine, we being myself, Secretary Rick Perry, Kurt Volker, and others in our delegation, we were pretty excited about Zelensky. We liked him. We didn't realize he had the kind of balls that he has, but we liked him. No one would know that until this war started. So we went in to talk to the president.
Starting point is 00:30:05 We said, look, just get this guy in for a meeting. You're going to like him. What happens after that, who knows? And Trump wasn't having any of it. He was cranky. He didn't like Ukraine. He didn't want to hear about Zelensky. And he wanted to push the whole thing off under Rudy Giuliani, which we all looked at each other and said, what the hell does Rudy Giuliani have to do with this?
Starting point is 00:30:26 He's not a part of the administration. He's your lawyer. And Trump said, well, if you want to do anything on Ukraine, talk to Rudy. So unfortunately, we were forced to deal with Rudy on this issue, not with the president. And what Rudy told us, again, we don't know that came from Rudy or the president, was very simple. There was an old investigation. There was no description of what the investigation was about. It was just about corruption.
Starting point is 00:30:53 It was an investigation on corruption, started by Zelensky's predecessor. All Trump wanted, according to Rudy, was that that investigation would be cranked up again, which, by the way, Zelensky campaigned on that issue, that he was going to open up new investigations or restart old ones into corruption. And that's all Trump wanted. He wanted a public announcement that Zelensky would restart an investigation and in return for that, he would give him an Oval meeting.
Starting point is 00:31:21 That was it. What was other wrong with that? No, there was nothing wrong with that. But he gets impeached? He gets impeached. Nothing. But as you know, again, thanks to the media, this thing got spun up.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Rudy started adding ornaments onto the tree beyond just the restart of the investigation, and then pretty soon military aid was suspended for a period of time. Again, all of that happened outside of my personal knowledge. I was dealing with someone else. I can see how that could get out of control. But the military aid, look, it was reinstated. It was only a short period of time. You know Donald Trump in his concentration span. He goes in, he goes out, okay? Whatever is not bothering. That's an understatement. Okay. Let me ask you about Ukraine today. I've been supportive of the Biden administration sending military and humanitarian aid to the Ukrainians. I know some of that aid is being misused because Ukraine is a long history of corruption. So I know that's happening, but I still think it's worthy to try to hurt Putin. Am I wrong? No, you're not wrong. In fact, I hope we double down. I hope we keep our foot on the gas.
Starting point is 00:32:40 And I hope some of our friends in our party and the Republican Party, who are a little bit further to the right than I am, don't all of a sudden embark on a path of isolationism. I mean, anyone who reads even the most rudimentary history realizes that isolationism just felt trouble. With the Chinese in Taiwan and Putin himself would do this to a number of other countries. I think sane people with a vision of the world all agree that you got to stop Putin now. The book is the envoy. The author Gordon Sondland, who's still alive, he did write the book, and I misstated up top. And I'm enjoying reading it. So thanks for coming on, Mr. Ambassador, very kind of you.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Okay, Smart Life. I got a website that I just found out about yesterday, because I interviewed the lady who runs at Paula Pant, pretty good. It's called afford anything.com. So Ms. Pant, what she does is she has a whole bunch of people asking her for financial advice on a number of different things. Household financial advice, big picture stuff, and she breaks it down, all right, so that it's pretty understandable. And you can, whatever your financial concern is, you can get a pretty good idea of what she's recommending. It's not pinheading. Afford anything, one word, afford anything.com.
Starting point is 00:34:17 I say in history, October 26th, 1881, the gunfighted OK Corral. So there's been a lot of movies, like 20 movies about this. So what happened was this, that Wyatt Earp and his brothers, Virgil, and more than, along with Doc Holiday, were living in Tombstone, Arizona. Why? Because there's a big silver stake discovered there. And prospectors are going to come in a lot of money, a lot of commerce. So these four guys were basically controlling crime in Tombstone as deputy marshals of the
Starting point is 00:34:54 territory, okay, Arizona territory. So, a bunch of gangsters come in and they live near Tombstone. They call themselves the outlaw cowboys, and they give the Earps and holiday a hard time. So they all go to the old kindersly horse stable. That was the name of the O.K. Corral. And they shoot it out for 30 seconds. seconds, 30 rounds in 30 seconds. Three of the outlaws are dead, and Morgan, Virgil, and Holiday are wounded. White Earp? No. And this has become the most famous shootout in American history.
Starting point is 00:35:43 And here's something else you might not know. Wyatt Earp lived to 80 years, die when he was 80, in Los Angeles. That's where he lived. So he got out of all of the stuff that he did pretty much unscathed. All right, we got a good mail segment and a final thought that you may want to hear. We'll be right back. Hey, it's Sean Spicer from the Sean Spicer Show podcast, reminding you to tune into my show every day to get your daily dose inside the world of politics. President Trump and his team are shaking up Washington like never before, and we're here to cover it from all sides, especially on the topics the mainstream media won't.
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Starting point is 00:37:00 legally every year. About a million one. Stacey Heitman, Glenview, Illinois. Bill, you say Congress is the only authorized to spend taxpayer money to approve the spending. Did Congress approve the 2,275 for hotels and other expenses given to Margaret's? Of course it didn't. Of course it didn't. They don't They don't do individual expenditures. It approved the budget for the Homeland Security Office. And Homeland Security gave the money they have to the migrants. That's how it works in every agency. Alan Feldhammer, Seattle, it's strange how Obama was elected for two terms
Starting point is 00:37:40 and Americans suffered for years under one of the worst recessions in history. Here we go again with Biden. Not fair, Alan. The recession was caused under Bush the Younger. Remember that? Bad loans. Remember? Obama inherited it. Now, Obama didn't get us out of it, but he didn't cause it. Joe Darwood, LeCenter, Washington. Bill, I'd like your opinion on who runs the White House. We've done this before, but I will tell you Susan Rice, the domestic advisor, is very powerful. And then Ron Clayne, chief of staff, is the most powerful person. So you
Starting point is 00:38:19 I've got two of them, and there are other people, but those are the main two. Paulette, Summerhalter, Emerson, New Jersey, just finished watching the Oz Federson debate. I can't believe the poll show is close if people vote for Federman, our country is lost. I agree. You've got to vote people who can do the job. Suzanne Dunn, Vernon, New York, concierge member. Thank you, Suzanne. I watched the debate tonight, gave me a headache.
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Starting point is 00:39:26 of course it's overused Rudy Heinz Bellington Washington I just finished reading killing the legends was reflecting on the cultural impact of the three men you write about Bill
Starting point is 00:39:38 I understand how Elvis and Lenin change American culture but what about Muhammad Ali it's a little harder no Ali probably changes the most by refusing to be drafted, conscious objector. Okay, remember, early 60s, Ali wouldn't go to the Army. That raised dissent to the highest level ever. It was so well publicized. And then the rest of the 60s
Starting point is 00:40:04 was dissent, dissent, dissent, dissent, dissent, dissent. He ushered in that, almost single-handedly. Okay, we'd like go to the billowryly.com store. We're going to ramp this up next week and we'll show we have but want a preview go in there for great gifts do not be sniffish word of the day s n i f f s h sniffish when writing to me bill at bill o'reilly dot com bill at bill o'reilly dot com name and town if you wish to opine right back with the final thought so here is the final thought of the day i will not be here tomorrow i've got some medical stuff to do this voice thing this is all allergies that's not a big deal. But I've got to get a little tune-up, a little, a couple of maladies, and this and that. So I take my own advice, smart life. What do I tell you? You've got to be
Starting point is 00:40:58 proactive in your health. Got to have a doctor that cares about you, and you can discuss things with. So my doctor picked up this thing that I have in my stomach, and it's got to be dealt it's not big. It's annoying. I got to wear the little bracelet thing. The thing will take about an hour and a half procedure. I'll be out of there that day. I threatened to bring the terror dog down to protect me, so they know they've got to get me out of there. But the important thing is I got to miss tomorrow's show. I will write a column for Sunday. I don't know how I'm going to do that, but I will. But you've got to get stuff early. So it's like my face. I use this cream that I have a great dermatologist because my father, Dave, died
Starting point is 00:41:50 from melanoma. He didn't pay attention to it. And so these little son things, you got to get them out. Same thing with my stomach. That's my weak point here. So you got to check it out. You got to let them do what they do. You got to trust the process, a medical process, but you have to do the research. You got to find somebody. Ask around family and friends. Who's your doctor? Who do you like? And establish your rapport with them. All right, so I will be off tomorrow, and that is the reason why. We appreciate very much you watching tonight and listening on the radio. Remember, we've been about 100 stations carrying the No Spin News at night all across the United States of America.
Starting point is 00:42:29 I'm going to have a little fun with Cuomo tonight on News Nation. It's going to be Biden and Trump of the topics. That should be pretty interesting. So we hope you will check that out. Let me know what you think. Bill at Bill O'Reilly.com once again. Thanks again for watching us tonight. We'll see you on Monday.

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