Blank Check with Griffin & David - Josie and the Pussycats with Angela Ferraguto

Episode Date: May 6, 2018

This week is with special guest, Angela Ferraguto, associate producer and social media manager for this very podcast! And for this episode she picked 2001’s satirical rock comedy, Josie and the Pussycats. But was Griffin a big Rachael Leigh Cook fan growing up? Did Beyoncé audition for this film? Who misses Last Call with Carson Daly? Together they discuss the careers of Rosario Dawson, Alan Cumming and Tara Reid, the Muppet Baby versions of themselves, and why this is a pitch perfect send up of the early aughts that only early aught kids would get. This episode is sponsored by Dollar Shave Club (dollarshaveclub.com/check). And to purchase tickets to Producer Ben's upcoming live sketch comedy show ＶＡＰＯＲ　２０９９ on May 11th 9:30pm at the Brick Theater in Williamsburg, Brooklyn go to [https://web.ovationtix.com/trs/pe.c/10284577](https://web.ovationtix.com/trs/pe.c/10284577) or for more information [https://www.brooklyncc.com/show-schedule/2018/5/11](https://www.brooklyncc.com/show-schedule/2018/5/11)

Hey, listen, let's promise each other something right here and right now, okay? No matter what happens, if we become huge stars or we end up hitchhiking back to Riverdale, we will always be friends first and a band second. Friends first. I swear on my podcast. I swear on my podcast. Aw. Yay.

We're the only podcast where we're all in the picture On our bus license or whatever Hashtag two friends first But guess what I'm Griffin Newman David Sims This episode isn't about us We've handed off our checkbook

We've given someone else the choice Cause usually this show is Called Blank Check It is It show is called Blank Check. It is. Twist is still called Blank Check today. But usually it's about filmographies. Directors who have massive success early on in their career and have given a series of blank checks

to make whatever crazy passion products they want. Sometimes they clear, and sometimes they bounce. Pussycat. Yes. But today, as we often do in between miniseries we're giving someone else the reins of the show they have the blank check to choose whatever movie they want and our guest today a is kind of part of the family i wasn't gonna say kind of part of the family she's a hundred percent a part of the family 100 she's kind of i was gonna say

she's kind of been the silent voice in this podcast all along because she's so responsible for everything outside of the recordings themselves you could say like my voice was kind of like under the track a little bit you know what I'm saying? She could have been there the whole time. Wait, wait, wait. Just for a second. What are you saying? I get it. Do you need me to make

my point four more times? I get it. And if there was ever any doubt that she belonged here in this studio with us, it was eradicated

the second she came in with her choice because, boy, did she choose the single best American film of the 2000s? Yes, that's what it is. Accurate. A Harry Elfant, Debra Kaplan joint. The last one? I know.

Sort of a bummer. It's a massive bummer. Yeah. Who knows what they could have become? I feel like there's an alternate universe in which they would be good miniseries subjects if they continue to make movies like this. Well, we could follow their writing career because they wrote more movies. They just never directed.

It even took a while for them to get another script produced. They had a gap, right? Made of honor. They survived Christmas. Oh, right. They survived Christmas. At least a year. They left a year. They survived Christmas. Oh, right. They survived Christmas. At least a year. They left a year.

They survived Christmas, but the American public didn't. The American public did not survive Christmas, did not take them as their made of honor, and kind of blew off leap year. They waited four years for it to go on HBO. They skipped the leap year. So this is their peak. Yeah. Yes.

Yes. It's a film. Wait a second. Have we introduced our guests? we're all over the place no she is good start already guys no we're doing great she is the fourth member of the blind check family yep final did no one else allowed ever good we shout her out every week yeah no one else fits in the bus pass no no no and you're you And you're kind of short. You can get in there. We can all cram in there.

Hey, shut up, Tali. Yeah. I'm so tall. Fucking dummy. Our guest today is the perfect height, the height of all intelligent people. Under 5'7". Sure. The classiest of heights, Ant Frikuda.

Hi. Is our guest today, and Ant, what movie have you chosen? I have chosen 2001. Josie and the pussycat. Fuck yeah. Thank you for yelling off Mike. Josie and the pussycats. And Elphon and Kaplan.

Ian K. If I. Elphon cap. If I ever had. Elph cap. Elph cap. If I ever had a griff's choice. Which elf cap. If I ever had a Griff's Choice, which it's about time because I never get to put my thoughts on that.

You don't get to say what you think. I can't get a word in Angel Eyes. What does Griffin like? We just don't know. It never reflects my interest. What are his tastes? No idea. Remember that time that you said,

please let's do a Hotel Transylvania episode this year? And we were all like griffin no we will not please i cry about it every single night uh by the way as as a topical episode somewhat i should mention the fact that i uh pointedly was not nominated for a saturn award this year you weren't yeah wait did that just come out it came out a couple weeks ago but it made no splash in the news so most people will be hearing this for the first time. Wait. No rings for you. When you say pointed, I mean, did they mention that they didn't nominate you?

They specifically said at the nomination ceremonies and not Griffin Heumann. Did they nominate Peter? No. They nominated... They nominated New Media Superhero Series. That's the only nomination that's hit out, which is fucking bullshit. I mean, also... That category is bullshit. Should that also that category is a category that's what i'm saying that we're gonna go into that in a second is bullshit they nominated zero

performances no yara martinez no valerie curry no peter serif in a wedge also i mean i'm and i'm not trying to rub it in here but they had eight nominees thank you that's where the pointedly comes in and one of them is someone no offense to this person that i've literally never heard i believe they don't exist and i don't mean that as any disrespect i just haven't heard of you can't disrespect them because they don't exist and oh him okay okay who you guys are so catty kerry payton who's which it's is odd because there's the famous basketball player, Gary Payton. Gary Payton, he plays... He's in The Walking Dead and he plays... What's the character called? He's got a biblical name.

Yeah, Ezekiel. The guy with the tigers. I guess that's kind of a cool character. I don't know. Eight nominees. Let's run them down. Been five per field. Let's run them down.

Let's run them down. I just want to run them down. Because I think six of them belong I just want to run them down because I think each one another dagger to the heart six of them belong five five of them belong okay so

Nikolai Kosterwaldo in Game of Thrones he's a gimme he's a what is this category again supporting actor period in television

on television and true if we haven't made it clear does the social media and runs the twitter feed he's a genius and we're going to praise her more in a second

but this is very important got it because let's point out that Ange An going to praise her more in a second. But this is very important. Got it. Because let's point out that Ange also didn't get nominated for a Saturn Award this year, which is fucking bullshit. Campaign fail. And they had a category that was best social media for a comedy slash film criticism podcast. And there were 15 nominees. So Ange.

Yeah. Do you agree with me that Griffin's really the lead of the tech? Yes. Okay. So I don't know why he's campaigning for supporting you know what i mean number two on the call it's me and he was trying to sneak into supporting rey mara girls i think there's zero chance i had to break it into lead you don't think you could displace seth mane in The Orville? Hey, look. For acting. Is that a show that exists? It's a show that exists. Okay.

Seth MacFarlane was nominated for his acting. Just a poster on 14th Street. Yeah, that's what it is. Apparently, it is a TV show. It's a shoe-in. 4,000 nominees in that category. There's a lot of posters on 14th Street. All right, so here are the nominees.

Nikolai Koster-Waldau. He's in Game of Thrones. Sure. Where's Waldau? Got it. In that category. There's a lot of posters of 14th Street. Alright, so here are the nominees. Nikolai Costar-Waldau, he's in Game of Thrones. Sure. Where's Waldau? Got it. In that category. He's there. Kit Harington in

Game of Thrones, who I think is a lead. Yeah, then who's I think they're saying everyone is campaigned and supported. The dragon is lead. Yeah, sure.

Alright, and he's a gimme two. Doug Jones in Star Trek Discovery. The guy's a sci-fi legend. He's very good on Star Trek. And I'll say from- David just spilled water.

Capstone. From the one year that I was someone's plus one to the Saturn Awards in 2008, Doug Jones is like the Jack Nicholson of the Saturn Awards. Exactly. Right. Everyone's like, Doug, good to see you. No, but he wears like a very brightly colored vest. Good for him.

Because he can. He can. I mean, if I were Doug Jones, I would just like. No, but he wears a very brightly colored vest. Good for him. Because he can. I mean, if I were Doug Jones, I would just wear whatever the fuck I want all the time. Yeah, Doug Jones fucks, and his body can drape any clothes. Covered in goop and stuff all the time. Yes, yes. He's also so slender.

He should dress to the nines, because usually he's goop. He's a fish man blocked out from the world. But everyone makes jokes about him. he does bits from the audience. He kills it. Great nomination. Totally worthy. So he's in, right?

So that's three. Okay, four. He's going to win. He's going to win, by the way. Sure. He's really good on Star Trek. On the record. He's genuinely great on Star Trek.

Number four, Michael McKean in Better Call Saul. I'm not sure why that gets into the Saturns. Thank you. Great performance. Totally deserving of a nomination at the Emmys. Yeah, which I think he gets those nominations Totally deserving of a nomination at the Emmys. Yeah. Which I think he gets go those nominations. Like he's been nominated.

They nominated Francis McDormand for best actress for three billboards. I mean, are they calling like film noir genre? Like sort of, they said, all right. Anyway, get out.

All right. So that's four. Sorry. That's, that's four. And then the fifth, and I hope he wins is miguel ferrer and twin peaks the return yeah so phenomenal and right rip right uh all

right then carrie payton and the walking dead okay fine i mean he's okay he looks cool he's he's fun he's right okay christian cain in the librarians the guy from angel like like in a TNT show, that's a mini series. No comment. I don't know. Describe my face right now. Uh, this is like confusion. Yeah.

It's kind of a bemused, uh, no comment. Evan Peter is an American horror story called, I mean, I mean, come on, you know,

it, it, it gets rough there at the end. I think you should have been in there I think so and they didn't nominate yeah and then

in actor yeah John Bernthal Bruce Campbell he must be another Nicholson type of the Saturns right yeah he must be on like

the board of governors or whatever Sam Heughan in Outlander which you can't disrespect Outlander I think Bruce Campbell might be more of the

Robin Williams sure where he comes up on stage and does like a 20 minute. Are you into this, Ben, by the way? You into this? Cool. Yeah, Jason Isaacs, Andrew Lincoln, Colin McLaughlin. Okay, those are all, you know.

How many people are on this list? Eight. They've always been a five per category show. And this year they're like eight suddenly. It's a little rude. Yeah, it's a little rude that's a little rude but luckily you were nominated in best new media superhero series alongside four marvel shows on netflix and future man on hulu very weird because then the best superhero they have a

literal best comic to television series right uh they have a best comic to motion picture oh they i think they've removed, I think this is just the new title. And then they have best superhero TV series and best new media superhero TV series.

So the best superhero TV series is just five Berlanti shows. They had seven nominees this year. Jesus Christ. You know, that's, yeah,

but yeah, your Arrow, your Flash, your Supergirl, all that. and then new media is every Marvel Netflix show that has season

Us and Future Man yeah I this is a fun intro guys right I'm loving it past and future guest friend of the show

Sam Rugal texted me and said my condolences about and future about the Saturn Awards life is hard yeah yeah yeah

and I went ugh I didn't get in. But I was like, I'm going to open this up, and I'm going to be happy to see that Jackie Earl Haley got nominated. Sure. Or Peter or whatever. Right, right.

And then the fact that, you know, I just think I've got to cast a prose on our show, a show that shouldn't be made because no one should ever make a TV show. Excited for season two? So pumped. All right. So that's the Saturn recap. Yeah.

Over with. Yeah. You know, it's not all about like the glory and fame though, Griffin. I think you should just worry about being yourself. Sometimes it's a lesson of a little movie. The friends that you've been doing the work with for years. All right. Yeah.

The friends who like one day years ago i'm looking at the twitter feed and i think i literally said to griffin like that's funny like are you doing the tweets they're funny and griffin was like i'm not doing any tweets what are you kidding me like literally like literally like and ben was like no that's ang that's ang the intern that's me yeah way back in the day i think it was the the almost famous was like my was that your debut well because i i wanted to say i started so i interviewed with ben in like april or something of 2016 ben is not remembering those brain cells together that sounds right that sounds right yes that's like early-ish into when we're blank check not not a Star Wars podcast. And this was back in the UCB days.

So you were interning for UCB, not for our podcast. Correct. Internship. Yes. And then I ended up being the only intern for the podcast. Worked for like 11 other shows. But you guys, I had the most fun with like your show. And then I think we had just started James Cameron

just wrapped up on the Wachowskis sure and like Almost Famous I was like obsessed with I was like a teen Ben's you were making content

yeah I was making content I made the like listen to blank check with a candle burning I remember that yeah I remember you being like

that was great that was so good I was like Griffin must have made this because he loves Almost Famous but no it wasn't great no it was me because I love Almost Famous I remember you being like that was great I was like Griffin must have made this because he loves Almost Famous but no it wasn't I love Almost Famous I remember you photoshopping space gams off of like a Richard Lawson joke

that was great that's on my LinkedIn page right now I mean Ange came in and we barely had this like network at UCB running you know and I was literally a closet it was a closet that you lived in. It was a closet that Ben lived in and he wasn't going crazy.

No, I was losing my mind. I was so thankful to have Ange as an intern. She was so great and basically established how to support the show with social media. That was all Ange. All Ange because social media was terrible up until that point.

What was it? Did you post episode links? Sometimes. All Ant. Because social media was terrible up until that point. Yeah, you guys had no followers. What was it? Like, I don't even remember. We just had a Twitter account. Did you post episode links? Sometimes. Yeah, once in a while. Yeah. Yeah, she was really great at developing what the blank check feed is now.

Yeah, the voice. The voice. And was so great that I was sad to see her go. And I was like, hey hey do you want to maybe like stay involved with the show? After a run of internship we were like why don't we run this to the fold. I'm not going to lose this

one. Intern the fold. Intern the fold. Yeah that's right. A Nancy Meyers movie. Yeah I think your show is definitely like just the most fun to jump into i remember the first episode i listened to was uh the force awakens because i was low-key obsessed with it as soon as it came out and then was like i remember like asking i had like notes about like

like in case ben asked me like what are some ideas for like episodes or something and i had some pitches that i don't think were necessarily in line with Blank Check. But looking back, it's very funny because so many fans are like, you should do this, you should do that. And we're like, okay. And I'm like, oh, that's totally what I did when I started listening. But you also had a very matched sense of humor. You have very parallel sort of like...

Can I just say, I figured out you guys' voice very easily. Just kind of nailed it down if I can just best sum it up is this going to be backhanded a little bit well there was there is a blank you

who did say that you guys were like David and the three chipmunks you're the three chipmunks David is David I'm all three chipmunks

in one person I can the angle I kind of just like very quickly figured out just like in a Muppet baby scenario oh

Griffin wouldn't know anything about that not exactly but just like okay so like schoolyard version of you guys is

Griffin is like the little kid on the playground that gets like is way too obsessed with his toys and gets like picked on

David is like the like big kid that looks like he could totally beat up Griffin and you think he's going to when his character is introduced but he doesn't

and he's low-key just as big of a nerd. Oh yeah. And then and then Ben Oh yeah? Benny?

Benny's just like I don't want to do a spit take Ben's like the like low-key Ben's the stoner AV kid that skates by. Yeah, I like that. And then joins the crew. And yeah, it was just very...

You guys had a very good established dynamic that was fun to work with on social media. And I think I just clicked in. You tweeted something I thought was... You clicked right in. You clicked right in. And then people started clicking like on those tweets. And follow.

We went from zero to followers. You guys had like 300. Yeah, man. That's not bad. All right, look, I'm a busy man. I'm saying we have like 5,000 now. You should brag. It's all thanks to you, H.

You tweeted something I thought was very cutting the other day, which was in the midst of March Madness voting when people were saying like, guys, we have to vote for this. This is our only opportunity to get Griffin to talk about blank. And you said, I don't understand this line of reasoning as if, what was the example you used? As if we didn't

spend 20 minutes on the Muppets in the opening of a Christopher Nolan film. Like, we... The movie miniseries does not designate that you will not talk about like the Transylvania films right which is why we spent 15 minutes talking about

the Saturn Awards in a jersey an award show no one watches or cares about isn't televised literally isn't televised they aren't televised? they should televise them on like True TV, right? Like get them on a cable network. Well, it's like Spike

should have like televised that instead of creating whatever their dumb guy's choice awards. Oh yeah, the Spike Awards. Right. Dick Awards. Best dick. Yeah.

Best dong. That'd be great if it was that though. Yeah. Just that. Who we think's got the best dick but like, you know, just like it's a good dick But it means if I had won

I could have gotten up and made a really incendiary speech Because it wouldn't have hit the airwaves What about Trump? I don't think this guy should be president Wait a second an actor having a political opinion In an award ceremony He's bad at his job I just want to say something

You listen up, Doug Jones. Pay attention to me. You know what I love? I love when people tweet at me and go like, actors should stick to this. Get out of politics. You shouldn't weigh in on these matters. And then I go to their feed and all they tweet about is politics

and also tweet at people like Scott Baio and go, thank you so much for speaking about politics. Also about a president who hosted a reality television show anyway look up and see if scott baio has any saturn nominations they probably fucking counted charles in charge as a thriller it is a thriller who's in charge charles he has two daytime emmy nominations but no saturn nominations yeah uh and they're both for in that way they're both for after school programming interesting so we're right on schedule 20 minutes in barely talked about the movie uh we're not talking about today there were other movies you floated there were

the first one i sent to griffin immediately we're back a dinosaur story it was really fun which insanely someone on the reddit asked us to do really yes and i noted that and put it in my Immediately. Tell me. We're back. A dinosaur story. A dinosaur story. That was really fun. Which insanely, someone on the Reddit asked us to do once. Really? Yes, and I noted that and put it in my brain. It's so weird. I was just like,

we haven't done a lot of animated films. True. And it's just like very 90s, very strange. John Goodman is a dinosaur. Jay Leno is in it.

Cloris Leachman is in it. Walter Cronkite is a wizard man who time travels, brings dinosaurs back to New York for the purpose of bringing wishes

to children in New York City. There's an evil man with a spiral eyeball. A couple other things I want to note. Julia Child plays a character

called Dr. Bleep. Yeah, she has very big glasses. Also, it's 72 minutes long. Also, it has very big glasses. Also, it's 72 minutes long. Also, it has four credited directors. It opens with John Goodman

as the T-Rex playing golf. Also, came out I weirdly also learned in 1993. So it is the

quintessential dinosaur movie of 1993. It came out before Jerry. I was produced by I owned the book it was based of 1993. It came out before Jared. I was produced by. I owned the book it was based on. And I would read it a lot. I did not remember.

I saw the movie about a thousand times. Okay. So I want to note a couple additional things. I wanted to roll back the rock. On top of those things? Maybe. Okay. Right before you said, because I messaged you and said, we'd love to do an answer choice.

What do you think you would pick? And you said, because I messaged you and said, we'd love to do an answer choice. What do you think you would pick? And you said, We Are Back. Literally, like, three hours before, I was like, how did that song go in We Are Back? And I watched Turn Back the Clock. Yeah. Or Turn Back the Rock. It's Roll Back the Rock and Turn Back the Clock and Sing This Song With Me. Right.

The only song in a movie that is not a musical, but has one full musical number. Also, isn't there that weird thing where like- The dinosaurs, for context, for the listeners at home, the dinosaurs invade some type of parade a la Ferris Bueller. It's the Macy's Thanksgiving Day. They pretend to be inflatable balloons. People watching think they're inflatable.

Advanced balloons of all time that are able to sink in there. My mind cannot handle the truth. No. Walter Cronkite- Especially in 93. Walter Cronkite and Kenneth Mars play brothers. One of them, the good doctor.

One of them, the villain. Oh, no. What are their names? Their names are New Eyes and Screw Eyes. Yes. Because one of them's got a new eye and the other one has a screw for an eye. Sure. Screw Eyes.

Also, I'm sorry. Give them their ranks. It's Captain New Eyes and Professor Screw Eyes. He has a doctorate. This is what I really want to get to, okay? Professor Screw Eyes was supposed to be played by... John Malkovich, right? And in the promotion of the movie, they were like, Malkovich, Malkovich, Malkovich.

Right. He dropped out very shortly before the film came out. They dubbed it over. No one knew why. Can I read this to you from Wikipedia? Shoot. Actor John Malkovich was originally set to voice the role of Professor Screw-Is, but dropped out because of disagreements with the animator's vision of the film.

Upon the movie's release, Malkovich was a vocal critic of the project, arguing that the scope of the script was not fully realized and that the final product was subpar to say the best. In a rare 2003 interview, Malkovich said, good ideas go to die in Hollywood. I worked on an animated movie about dinosaurs, wonder which one, in New York. It was completely... Just to narrow it down.

Yeah. It was completely bureaucratized. They took something that had art in it and put it in the laps of people that only cared about the bottom line, and look what happened. Strong words about We're Back. And then he said, yeah, projects like We're Back, a dinosaur story, still being vague about which movie he's talking about,

they just make you sick. That's why I left this town. It's all about the money. The bottom line's disgusting. That was the answer to so why do you live in France? Right, that was the straw

that broke the camel's back. Yeah! I thought he lived in France because he didn't want to pay taxes. No, because of We're Back a Dinosaur Story. Maybe he didn't want to pay taxes on his salary

for the movie that he quit. Right. All right. So I feel like there was another one, too. What was the other one you thought of doing? Okay. So I was between Josie. So I would say very formative movies in my childhood.

Sure. Were rented constantly at Blockbuster. Were Josie and the Pussycats. Okay. Actually, three. Okay. Spice World. Sure.

Spice World, I would say is like- I also saw in theaters spice world but like reviewing spice world would be like reviewing like a hard day's night like it's it's a lot of a lot of bits it's an interesting movie alan coming also in that i know um but not the villain yeah so it was between josie and uh charlie's angels was very important which is also a good pick but i feel like this is like an undersung masterpiece right exactly charlie's angels is like a kind of fun movie that's like a fun like yeah i was but like you know they both both charlie's angels and josie and the pussycats open with uh the three main

characters having like their names swoop across the screen right they each get a montage they're jumping in on a trampoline presumably presumably, freezing in the sky. Trampolines were very in in the late 90s, early 2000s. There's a car wash montage. Sure. And in the end of Charlie's Angels, which I watched at sleepovers constantly

and pretended to play instruments with my friends, was the, they do Blink-182 in the credit scene. I remember that. Oh, yeah. No, I do remember that

yeah and you know Drew Barrymore they're all just going crazy on those instruments none of them actually play thought it was the coolest

fucking thing watched it all the time yeah so that was great but yeah I just as like a little girl who just like

wanted to pretend to play like wanted to play instruments like this Josie and Charlie's Angels were both very like strong in that also very big fan who just wanted to pretend to play instruments like this. Josie and Charlie's Angels were both very strong in that. Also a very big fan of the Powerpuff Girls, Totally Spies, Destiny's Child. Wait, don't know that one.

Trilogies. You like trios of strong, empowered women who play music and or fight. I have never heard of Totally Spies. I am now reading about this. It's basically Powerpuff Girls, but they're just teens and they each have their own color and like, yeah, late 90s, early 2000s, like, I was the girl that like threw impossibles. That one didn't make it

to the UK. They had like a butler. It was in the shootout. I'm sorry. We're getting into cartoons. Griffin doesn't want to talk about them. Never. David, your defense is that Totally Spies didn't make it to a place where you presumably vacationed? What do you... Why would that affect

your ability to watch the show? Were you gone for like while I was in theaters or something? How long were you there for? Two weeks at most? A spring break? I grew up in Britain. This is so exciting. What? Do you know what? I don't know. I've listened to the show

for like two and a half years. This is news to me. There was another commonality between Charlie's Angels and Josie and the Pussycats I'll get to later. Wink, wink. Wink, wink. But I also, I believe I've told this story on the podcast before. Josie and the Pussycats was my first date ever. Interesting.

Sixth grade Griffin. First date. 2001. First girlfriend. Yep. And it cast the die for the rest of my life because she kept on trying to get me to kiss her. And I did not want to miss any of Josie and the Pussycats. Any of these 98 minutes of fun.

Yeah. We broke up, I think, about two hours later. I saw this movie on a date as well. Really? I was 15. So I'm a little more like, you know, I knew what I was doing. No. Yeah.

March 2001. Yeah. Huge. Big month for you guys. April 2001, Ange. Please. Am I wrong? Maybe you saw it in April. April 11, 2001. Yes, I was in America. In fact, when this came out.

Well, of course. I mean, that's where one lives. Now you're just being obtuse. Now, wait a second. I just said I grew up in Britain. I mean, that's where one lives. Now you're just being obtuse. Wait a second. I just said I grew up in Britain. I was talking about something else. I didn't hear that. Josie and the Pussycats. Yeah.

The best movie ever. The best film ever. Join the army. It's a great movie. It was a giant flop. Huge. Terrible. It kind of tanked both the director's career and Rachel Leigh Cook's career

which is so weird Rachel Leigh Cook's career might not have made it anyway but it definitely tanked her career I hardcore disagree with that really? and here's another here's a hot take I want to say

I mean I like her I'm just saying right out the gates I think Rachel Leigh Cook would be huge today I'm narrowing my eyes at you isn't she currently still acting? she does

she's in stuff she was on a show she does TV no she She's in stuff. She was on a show. She does TV. Hallmark Channel movies. No, she was in Perception. Right. She was on TNT series for a couple years. Three.

Since then, she's done like five Hallmark movies in a row. She does do a lot of Hallmark movies. Hey, man. Autumn and summer in the vineyard. So I'm waiting for your apology. I'm going to throw my hottest take out right now She went to the Vineyard twice We still got Spring and Winter to go

2001 Best actress winner is Halle Berry from Monsters Ball This is silly what you're about to say Rachel Lee Cook should have won best actress for Joseph That's ridiculous Rachel Lee Cook should have won best actress I don't think Rachel Lee Cook's the best performance In the Pussycats

Of the three Pussycats I wouldn't put her numberigh Cook's the best performance in the Pussycats. Okay. Yeah. Of the three Pussycats, I wouldn't put her number one. But they'd be supporting. They would be, but Rosario's key. I thought we were going to go overall, in which case. Parker Posey. Yeah, we need to.

That's a whole other side rant from Parker. I don't think Rachel Leigh Cook is in my top five performances in this movie. Yeah, but this film would win four acting Oscars in a just world. Cumming would take... Is he a lead? That's the question. I think it only wins three acting Oscars. There's not really a lead, man.

Coming wins supporting. Rachel Lee Cook wins lead. And in a rare... Tie. Yeah. Rosario and Parker split supporting actress. Uh-huh.

Great. Yeah. And Alan M wins cutest guy in Riverdale. Sure. Just because they're not allowed to mention Archie. Yeah. No, And Alan M wins cutest guy in Riverdale. Sure. Just because they are not allowed to mention Archie. Yeah.

No, but Alan M was a big character. Why weren't they allowed to mention Archie? Yeah, I was always curious about that. I don't know, but I just feel like

they don't. So I feel like there might have been like Archie Comics was like, nah, hold up on any Archie mentions. You can mention Riverdale. You can mention

Josie characters. Do you guys think if this movie was successful they would have like spun off and done like Betty and Veronica? I mean, yeah, definitely. They were attempts to make an Archie movie for a long time.

And there was like a TV movie that they did of like a high school reunion with the Archie kids. Now there's currently a TV show. Indeed. But I think, I remember there being a lot of talk in the 90s of doing like a Brady Bunch movie style. Oh, sure. Like an ironic.

Right. Archie out of time out of place. Eddie Thomas? No, these two directors did the Brady Bunch sequel. Really? Yeah.

What? Did you guys do your research, guys? They did not. I think I heard they were directed it. What? Hold on. Very Brady sequel?

Yeah. No. This is at home the two nerds are searching. Hold on. It was directed by Arlene No. This is at home. The two nerds are searching. Hold on. It was directed by Arlene Sanford. The great Arlene Sanford. They wrote it.

Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They did write it. That was their first screenplay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they also wrote. So that led them to, they thought. Right. I mean, of course.

We can do this musical out of Josie. They also wrote The Flintstones of Ava Rock Vegas. Yes, they did. And they also made Can't Hardly Wait, which is a pretty good movie. And was a good hit. And they were like, let's test these guys up. Let's see if they can move up to the majors. Did you guys catch that during one of the

when they're in Parker Posey's secret lair? There's a little Chiron screen that says Can't Hardly Wait is underrated. It's very funny. I feel like that moment alone just sums up the whole purpose of Josie and the Huskies. Can't Hardly Wait's pretty good. I mean, I've seen it like eight times.

But it was also just one of those movies that was not a lot. I've seen it no time. Yeah, I've seen this 25 times. I think you'd like it. I could have seen it for research, but instead watched Josie about like five more times. On top of the thousand times I saw it in my childhood. What I was going to say is that in a pre-cinematic universe era, if you were someone like Archie Comics,

your goal was split this into as many properties as possible with very restrictive rights and sell them off, even if they don't get made. So it was like Sabrina goes to TV. Right. And Sabrina's on TV right at this moment. They're working on it. They don't want those characters acknowledging other properties

because they want to make the money off of the sales of the rights. Because even if Archie doesn't get made, Universal sits on the Archie rights for like 20 years or whatever and they're getting money for it. Now everyone wants everything shaking hands, you know? Right. No, you're right.

Apart from Riverdale, there's no further Archie talk. It's all Josie character. But I remember I was a big Hannah Ribera kid. So I would watch Josie and the Pussycats, the cartoon.

One of the best theme songs ever. Classic. And when the trailers for this came out and I was a big Rachel Lee Cook fan, I was like,

okay, so they just made it into a movie. What are you talking about you were a big Rachel Lee Cook fan? You I was like, okay, so they just made it into a movie. What are you talking about you were a big Rachel Leigh Cook fan? You mean you liked She's All That? Excuse me. Give it to me. I also liked The Babysitter's Club. Oh, I've never seen that. I also liked

This Is Your Brain on Drugs. Wasn't that later that she did that? That was early. That was pre-She's All That. Rachel Leigh Cook was the This Is Your Brain egg. This Is Your Brain on Drugs cracked egg. any questions? I was too old. I was already too cynical when she

did that. I was like, that's fucking lame. I saw that egg and I was like yo, I want to fry my hand. David was like, drugs are cool. I didn't even think drugs were cool but even I was like I was like, fry me up baby. Were you a fan of the fact that she got selected by the Obama administration as a champion for changing arts education?

Yeah, I loved that. You kidding me? She does a lot of animated. Like, she does a lot of voice work. A fair amount. No, like a lot. I just wish she was still a big deal. I was a big Rachel Leigh Cook fan.

As I said, the trailers came out and the trailers just made it look like it was like, this is a struggling band comedy. And so I was like, okay, pretty loose adaptation of the cartoon. They're just sort of taking the band thing. It's going to be like a fun rock comedy. And I remember very early on watching it going like, oh, this is a surprisingly good adaptation of the cartoon. Right. Because it's not like a Flintstones literal adaptation, but they still do solve a mystery. Right.

You have both of the cabots in it, Al and Em, like these supporting characters that most people would have cut because they're like, that's fucking dead weight. And then she straight up says,

I'm only in this because I was in the comic. Which I think is funny. Love. Great fourth law break. Yeah, but it like hits all the tenets of a classic

Josie and the Pussycat story with the whole central cast. Also, it's one of the greatest satires of our time. Right, that's the thing. Unrecognized as a satire. Our Generation's Network. By Roger Ebert. How dare he?

But that's my take on it. We'll talk about Roger. This is Network for the 2000s. No, it is. It's a very, very funny movie that is very, like, you know, it's pointing right at that exact moment in the culture. Yeah. Like, you know, in the manufactured band culture. They very in the culture, you know, in the manufacturing culture.

They very specifically wanted to, I mean, the opening, which is my favorite part. Like, it's not even like some like, fuck you guys. You know,

it's just like funny. It's making fun of the things we all love. The music video with DeJure. I love DeJure. Straight rip off of Backstreet Boys. I want it that way where they're also on a

the fisheye lens and the private jet runway yeah backdoor lover it opens with a song

about butt sex I know can we should we start with the movie are we going with the yes like right away

du jour the movie starts as all great movies start with Justin Chatwin yelling straight into the lens. I forgot about that. Luckily, that's it for him. Yes.

He's in and out. Yes. I can handle Justin Chatwin if he's in the first 10 seconds of the movie. He's the fan who's like, I love them. Oh, my brothers. Right. Yeah. Yep.

Comedy. But this movie, someone pointed out on the reddit when Angie posted the schedule and people saw this episode was coming up yeah this was shot by Matty Libatique

coming off of Requiem for a Dream yeah when everyone's like ooh this is the hot new cinematographer this guy's pushing shit and at the time

everyone involved in this movie was written off as like oh they're slumming a paycheck he's doing interesting work in this movie yeah he off as like, oh, they're slumming a paycheck. He's doing interesting work in this movie. Yeah, he is. This is an interesting looking movie. And it's a rare comedy that is, especially within the studio system, super stylish, super visually distinctive. Yep.

And all of that aesthetically. Lines up. With the comedy. Supports the comedy. Makes it funnier. Yeah, no, I agree. So the beginning is this perfect vaping of that music video style with them going from out of focus, like gauzy silhouettes into like-

Really cheesy choreography, like not a lot of effort put into it. Right. Singing directly into the lens. Let's get our four biggest stars to do our cameos at the top of the movie. Seth Green. Faison, Meyer, and then the fourth guy. Who's the only one who could come back for the end of the movie i know yeah well fazon green and meyer are all in can't hardly wait i'm pretty sure i

believe yeah meyer who married the director what wow i'm dropping knowledge you're right yeah they got divorced they got divorced in 2012 but they married in 2001 right after this movie. Good for them. I always thought Eflon and Kaplan were a couple. They're just a good creative team. I guess so. Eflon, Kaplan. Wow. That. Wow.

Mater. Wow. Melissa, are you here? You're back? Wait, we haven't done all those bits yet. No. Melissa, we're going to do a bunch of bits with you later. Wow.

This is nuts. Okay. Yep. So. Breckenmire's cute. Yeah, listen, we're going to do a bunch of bits with you later. Wow. This is nuts. Okay. Yeah. So Breckenmire's cute. Yeah, he's a cute guy. He's got the face.

He's doing the hot face. Bud Sex du jour. Stole it from Seth Green. Everyone loves it. Right. Right away, the

movie is leading with one of its strongest qualities. Yeah. Which is this movie gets the music so fucking right. So fucking right.

It's one of the greatest soundtracks in the history of film. Because all the songs in the movie essentially are the fictional songs by the band. Other than playing like Love Will Keep Us Together for like 15 seconds.

Like a couple sort of you know diegetic moments. They got some good names on there. Yeah. Produced by Babyface. Babyface. Letters to Cleo.

Letters to Cleo. Sorry. Was, no, Fountains of Wayne wasn't responsible for the Dijon stuff, right?

Because I know they did. The lead singer of Fountains, Fountains of Wayne? Yeah. Wrote Pretend to Be Nice, I believe. Oh, okay.

Because he also did That Thing You Do. Right. Another, so yeah, I was Because he also did That Thing You Do. Right. Another, so yeah, I was thinking about that great fictional band of film, The Oneeders.

Yes. He was kind of running the table. Right. Right. But they put together a really good group of people and the two things

I love are that, say for one example, which I'll point out just a moment from now. Oh boy. I think the songs are genuinely good yes they're good parodies of the types of songs at the time without losing quality and other than

seth green i think every vocalist they hire actually sounds like it could believably be the person singing seth green though like very specifically it is and it almost seems like very like that's like the punch line is that he he's got a feather boa on, jumps in front of the screen, and this beautiful voice comes out, and you know it's not Seth Green. He's the songbird of the group. Right, but it works. Yeah, but the Rachel Lee Cook is dead on. It is.

Kay Henley of Letters to Cleo. To Cleo? From Cleo, I always forget. Well, what happened was I guess they they had a different artist and like she sounded like way too scratchy Interesting

Right They need to be pop punk not like It didn't match up Right Yeah and I guess Letters to Cleo they were

had just gone 10 things I hate about you baby They were 10 things I hate about you and then yeah they were they were doing well and then I guess that was kind of when she was starting to get her own work

i guess she had just had a baby yeah you're right they played their last show in 2000 yeah so she was like all right gotta make that paper and then they were like okay we need a new voice we just fired this other person and it lined up really well and i guess so rosario also hilarious because rosario can actually sing yeah everyone in the group, obviously would go on to be in Rent. But the three of them sang backup vocals. So that is actually their voices doing the like, ooo-wee-oo-wee-oo-wee. And they tend to be nice. Yes.

I remember because I watched the making of on the DVD a thousand times. It was really bad. But they show them at the final concert scene playing without the track. And it's like they did a lot of lessons. Yeah, they learned how to look like they could be in a band. And you watch them doing it without the real track and it doesn't sound great, but they're able to just play enough

that visually they really sell it more than most fake bands, I think. Sure. Yeah. I don't... Yeah. That doesn't matter to me because sometimes the real bands didn't look like they knew how to use guitars anyway. But that's what I love that this movie, they feel visceral.

Yeah. Visceral. That's what they are. Visceral. So, going from DeJar's music video onto the plane. Right. Things are tense. The target plane. The target music video onto the plane. Right. Things are tense. The target plane.

The target plane. The target plane. This is one of those movies where everyone fucking thought it was what it was making fun of. I remember when the trailer came out. They were not paid for Get Out of the Night. They were not paid except for Puma provided t-shirts for the concert scene at the end. No other payments. Nothing else.

I knew that part. I think this is my hot take on Josie and the Pussycats. Josie and the Pussycats is the sponsor scene from Wayne's World. Right. Yeah. If they made it a whole fucking movie. Yeah. Yeah.

And down. But then also expanding into the idea of they're being screwed over by the people who are just trying to like abuse their like their own weird special thing and make it corporate but this is and roger ebert liked wayne's world gave it three stars but a bunch of girls do a fun little parody and it's dumb and stupid i mean i do think that's uh something that doomed this movie i do love wayne's world well wayne's world is obviously satire because it's the snl boys. But no, I do think for one, this is like the height of like

selling out fucking. I hate sellouts. Anti-pre-package. I'm not going to shrink wrap smiley face. You read Rolling Stone. What a loser. I read Spin Man. Yeah, I'm cool.

Bob Guccione Jrr motherfucker ben did you relate to the to the goth girl in the uh oh yeah who gets thrown in a van you were so annoying so you were at virgin megastore but you were like oh god definitely yeah i was like, you listen to Blink-182? Sorry, I listen to Mill and Colin. Ever heard of them? MXPX? Much. Wow, what a cool dude. Who were your guys? My guys were the Ataris, Midtown,

Jimmy Eat World. Oh, I saw them do a jazz set once. How were they? Jimmy Eat World? Good. They played at the Blue Note. Did you sour on Jimmy Eat World when they got got big or were you kind of like, they were my guys. I always stuck with them.

Saves the day though. Yeah. Sure. Through being cool. Still holds up. You and Pilot should have a spinoff fucking podcast. Oh my God. We just talk about this shit.

Yeah. Pop punk was such an important part of my development. And watching this movie and being brought back to this time, things were better. Yeah. No social media. Wait, are you telling me you think that things were better when you were a teenager and you had all the energy in the world?

What are you trying to say, David? What are you talking about? David, only 2,000 kids would understand this. Wait a second. Only kids from the noughties. I do think that sexism dooms this movie because people don't take it seriously at the time, probably because they're like,

well, Josie and the Pussycats, that Archie cartoon, that can't be smart, right? But I even remember when the trailer came out. You're a young man at this point yes i'm saying in the still emerging sort of film blogosphere the film blogosphere yeah oh my god it sounds like we should nip that in the bud if we have a time machine when it was like uh you know quick time apple trailers oh man i used to download so many quick time apple trailers that took like

an hour to load medium Medium quality, baby. When like Inacool and places were like fucking posting this trailer, everyone was like, oh, God, this looks like a new low for product placement. Sure. Because people just saw in the images in the trailers that there were logos everywhere. Right. And then so that was sort of like preset in where when the movie came out, everyone was like, yeah, but it feels like they're kind of having their cake and eating it, too. Which, no, they're not not they're just fucking eating cake but what's so fucking funny about this is i was and they stole the cake from the man well let's not give you too much credit well i was so obsessed with this movie as a kid and when i was a kid like i probably watched it

yeah correct how old were you when you first saw this movie i don't i was did you see it in theaters probably no no, no, no. This was like purely like. It was like a classic blockbuster. Went into blockbuster. My cousin was like, what do you want to watch? I'm babysitting you. And I was like, it's Spice World or Josie again.

And she's like, again? And I'm like, yes. But it also sounds. We got Josie. And so I was like, probably eight. If you were scanning video boxes, you want to see three women on the cover. That's what you wanted to see. You want to see Tully Spies, Charlie's Angels, Powerpuff Girls. You want to see three women on the car that's what you wanted to see you want to see totally spies charlie's angels powerpuff girl you want to see three female characters together i'm

just i'm just like if i look back at like all my favorite things it was yeah it's a triangle of ladies i used to like fight kids on the playground over like who is cool cooler like the pokemon or powerpuff girls get the fuck out of here with the Pokemon. Fuck Pokemon. Excuse me. One, Pokemon rules. Detective Pikachu. Two, Detective Pikachu is coming to solve the mystery next year. So look out for that. More like fart Detective Pikachu.

Wait a second. Someone posted a great screen cap of the video game and it was just apparently like Detective Pikachu. Do you hear something? What is that? Ben, I'm getting some weird feedback in my headset. It's like background noise. Ben, do you see anything on the levels? Is anything going on? Ben, by the way,

what's that big white machine you installed in the back of the studio today? Don't worry about that. Oh, okay, fine. Okay, that's just to make the audio better. They look so shiny. Wait, Mickey Crisper? Oh, he's mad at me. I'm sorry. Yeah, I don't know what that was, guys. No, it's no big deal.

Nothing's happening. Weird. Yeah, we'll just go on with it. To get us back on track. Yeah. I am great, though, right? We all agree. Yeah, of course.

That's the best person in the entire world. He's the new Daniel Day-Lewis. Yeah. Suddenly, I'm just... Ben, your outfit today just looks fantastic. Thanks, guys. You just really pull it together. You're so pretty

and popular compelled to wish you a hello fennel i'll take it thanks anyway moving on uh pokemon go take a walk more like it pokemon go hit the streets i don't need you i'm gonna send it to you there's some great screen cap of detective pikachu the video game where he's just like sitting in a cafe drinking coffee and the guy's like he's not even a detective he just wants coffee have you heard what detective pikachu sounds like in the japanese game like what the voices yeah no because he sounds like danie devito oh that sounds good it's a japanese danie devito that sounds great okay um anyway misty is an empowered character in the pokemon cartoons who rules. Cool, one girl in the whole thing. Well, you know, Brock is, I mean.

What? I mean, Brock is a. Are you saying Brock is female representation? No, I don't want to speculate on Brock's sexuality, but he was a very interesting character for me. He's in love with the nurses, for goodness sake. It's a little performative. Sometimes I think Brock might be laying it out a little thick there. Look.

Back to Powerpuff Girls, the superior television show. I mean, I loved Powerpuff Girls. I'm not really going to tell you why. It was fantastic. All right. Well, my point being, I forget where I was going. I just, yeah, I saw Josie when I was about eight. It's very important to me.

I watched it all the time. What was so funny about it is I just remember being so obsessed with it as a kid, thinking they were so cool, loved all the music. Right right so you're not even thinking about the satire not thinking about I did not I remembered like the McDonald's you know bathroom I vaguely remembered like the Revlon room but like I didn't didn't and then like you watch it I remember watching it again as a teenager and when I was older and being like oh there's like a lot of ads in this and then like the more it got, I'm like, it's in every shot. And I'm like,

Oh my God, it was totally on purpose. Oh my God, it's an amazing satire. And it's just so funny to me that like, I was the like completely clueless, like child who just took it all in and was like, just the music,

not aware of like, I'm going to buy Tide later. But you do love Starbucks. I do. Yeah. Starbucks is the new Dunkin Donuts that's odd because this is a weirdly plotty movie and it's mostly about

this corporate malfeasance like it's almost shocking to me that it's entertaining to a child but it was very fun they're playing music and it's funny it was also targeted at children right was it a PG-13 or was it a pg-13 or was it i

think pg-13 because that was a big deal yeah it's like someone says comics fans yeah like parents were like they took archie comics this beautiful pure thing and said shit one time how dare they and now riverdale they're like there's like a murder cult and they're all like beating each other's calm or whatever i don't know what they're doing on Riverdale. Hot Archie's books. It's like on CW at six in the morning. I don't watch Riverdale anymore, but the tweets, I'm just like, what kind of bacchanal is happening on that show? I'll briefly go through an Instagram.

I was trying to look up any Josie. It's also hard to research Josie without coming across. Josie and the Pussycats are in Riverdale. I do like what they have done with... Josie and the Pussycats, Val, Well, and Josie and the Pussycats are in Riverdale. I do like what they have done with, yeah, so the Josie and the Pussycats, Val, Mal, and Josie are all black

in the Riverdale show. Oh, yeah, no, I'm doing it, yes, yes, yes.

I think the, yeah, the cast is good, they're all interesting, but yeah, it's like another horny teen show. They're very horny.

I also think the whole like Twin Peaks-y stuff is like a little cheesy sometimes, but that's my, some people like that show, it's fine. Did you know that Archie Comics insisted on a tooth brushing scene in this movie because that was wholesome?

That's great. Did you know that? Okay, yeah. When do they brush their teeth? There's a scene- They wash a car and they soak each other. They do do that. But no, there's a scene where they're just chatting and they're brushing their-

Like in a bathroom or whatever. I think it's like an opening montage to preserve the wholesome image in their trailer that they definitely can't afford because they're eating ramen i i will say uh i definitely like this is one of those movies i raised romley on and she also loved it from like age six so she was right yeah and the thing that she mostly loves is female friendship movies yes and i do think even if you're too young to like click into everything their friendship feels really genuine and earned in this movie even from like the opening montage where you see all the sort of like b-roll footage of them together yes there's just a real general

like genuine um camaraderie also chemistry between everyone in it except for maybe the two leads you know it's like dialed up and funny you know any scene alan cumming or missy pile are you so originally cook is not dialed up she's not like playing a i think she's playing a big which is what i like about it i think she's got a weird comedic rhythm in this movie he's doing one of of his weird Griffin things. I don't know. I mean, she's not playing, I feel like she's like Harry Potter in like the central.

She's charming. She is the lead, but like everyone around her is like more interesting. I think she's got a weird comic energy. I have no idea what you're talking about.

She hits her head with a... She's doing a juice set! She fixes cars. Yeah, she's cool. She's cool. I mean, I like Rachel. She's cool. She spells her name funny. She's cool. I mean, I like Rachel. She's cool.

She spells her name funny. She's always hard to look up because she's like Rachel. Oh, A-E-L. Yeah. Got two A's in there. Yeah. Wait a second.

Uh-oh. That rustling. That tree. Also, why'd you put a tree in the studio? Where in the studio? I thought I'd make it greener. Well, you're right Harumph, harumph, harumph

Uh What are you doing in my tree? My studio tree? Excuse me? This is my truffler tree Oh Are you There must be some kind of mix-up

See, and I don't know Sir, I purchased this Harumph, harumph, harumph Sometimes we get a weird amount of people with mustaches coming to the studio. Yeah, they just broke in. Almost as if a corporation bought 16 ads and we're now scraping the bottom of the barrel for mustachioed characters. Harumph, harumph, let me be.

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and the Pussycats what a huge star which one Horton or the cat both who's the rock star well let's look at box office though

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did about 105 nailed it 154 to 101 Nara you were a little off yeah I was a little low I think Horton did about 170. I think Cat in the Hat did about 105. Nailed it. 154 to 101. Yeah, I was a little low. A little high on Horton. Anyway, we go into DeJuara's plane. And isn't it fun to be on this podcast and see how fucking stupid it is?

Oh my God. They're fighting over everything. The can has the out-of-date facial hair. Who's making the face? Yeah. Brecken's funny. It's my god. They're fighting over everything. The can has the out of date facial hair. Who's making the face? Brecken's funny. It's my face. Not respecting Dr. Zaius. The Jormean seatbelts.

It's so funny. And then it comes up. Hey, I noticed something a little weird. When I was listening to. The slave mix or whatever. The slave mix or whatever. And Alan Cumming goes, interesting. Let me check on that. Alan Cumming plays their manager who is called Wyatt Frame.

Hot off of Cabaret. This is like Alan Cumming really starting to get Tony Award winning performance which I saw on stage. And we're gonna talk about what else he was hot off of. But that's coming up later. Sorry, I didn't mean to sound so bad. He's also gearing up for the anniversary party.

Yeah. He's going to direct a movie, people. Yeah, his sole directorial effort. He co-directed and co-wrote with Jennifer Jason Leigh. That's right. That movie is okay. Yeah. He goes in the cockpit and goes like,

take the Chevy to the levee. Take the Chevy to the levee. It's a Don McLean reference Don McLean however you say his name also pilot of the plane is one of the directors oh

I didn't know that fun little and then he puts on a little pack jumps out of the plane right land in Riverdale he takes out his little

cell phone plane crashes plane crashes which is hilarious yeah what year did this movie come out 2001 2001 but April yeah innocence reign Plane crashes. Plane crashes, which is hilarious. Yeah. What year did this movie come out? 2001. 2001.

But April! Yeah. Innocence reigns. This movie could not have come out a year later. That's true. We're going to need... But it's a joke about all the real people who've died in Plane Crash. They changed Lilo and Stitch after 9-11.

They did. It was supposed to be Stitch hijacking a plane. Stitch was hijacked a plane. A commercial airline. Do you know this? This is a real thing that happened. I did. It was supposed to be Stitch hijacking a plane. Stitch was hijacked a plane. A commercial airline. Do you know this? This is a real thing that happened. I did. Stitch hijacked, yes.

Stitch hijacked a plane and then Fully animated. And then an alien ship that's trying to catch Stitch is shooting down the plane. Yeah. It's so bad.

And they had to reanimate it to be like, oh, he stole a spaceship. Right. They like painted a spaceship over the airplane and then cut out a bunch of shit. And the Spider-Man fix

after 2001 was all the American flags. Yeah. Oh, right. Yeah. At the end. But they didn't have to worry about it in this one.

Yeah, you mess with one New Yorker you mess with all of them. That's like my favorite. I love that line. I remember the groans in the audience in the UK

with that line. In New York people went ballistic. Yeah, not in London. I saw Spider-Man Homecoming. Or maybe I guess it was one of them. There's so many movies. Captain Civil War. When it just cuts to Queens.

I saw it in Queens. Oh, it was so beautiful. That was fun. It was real fun. We had a good time. Everyone went, hey, that's where we are. That's this borough. We hard cut from coming saying we're going to need to find a new band.

Are you putting us on track? Wow. Oh, my God. Mr. Back on track. Hard cut to coming, yeah. And then it goes to- We have been talking for an hour. A music video for Three Small Words.

Uh-huh. Which I remember going with my dad and my brother Jamesy to the Foot Locker because James needed to get new sports sneakers footlocker is the new yes dsw and and he took an hour and a half to pick his sneakers and the footlocker tv was just playing the three small worlds music video in a loop okay which was like a month before the movie came out um so you knew everything i was like this song fucking rules i knew it by heart but i also had seen the music video so yeah many times that when in the movie it goes from this very polished like they're a fucking here rock band to the reveal of them in the bowling alley

killed for me because i had like bought the music video as a real substantial they're already famous at that point right right and it's really well shot it is also that song also secretly dirty

oh is it what's the punk rock prom queen brown paper magazine there's a line don't you want to come inside like they purposely yeah no

they purposely made it like really dirty six whole hours five long days they wrote that song for all your lies to come undone those three small words came way too late because you can't see that i'm the one they say two twice but there's another line about like glossy double spread open up inside your head oh yeah yeah oh uh double cover spread opened up inside your head a black cherry paradise half the sugar twice the spice. No one's little

red Corvette which is a song that song is about vaginas. Yeah, I mean Prince has never written a song that wasn't dirty. Are you saying this whole song

is about vagina? Well, I mean Back to our Lovers is about butt. I know it is but I've been listening to this song. I don't think the whole thing is

It's just got a lot of innuendo you're saying. Right, with the purpose they wrote this one at the last minute. They were going to do a different movie at the start uh-huh a different song points they were going to do a different song yeah and they they i think they they were just like we need more songs or whatever and the directors wrote that one and they were like and i think they had the opportunity to make it a little they thought all the other songs were a

little too polished so they wanted to make one a little more they thought all the other songs were a little too polished, so they wanted to make one a little more, like, grungy. Yeah. And they were like, let's see what kind of, like, dirty shit we can kind of sneak into this without, you know, like, getting in trouble.

So that's what the song is, kind of like them sneaking it in. Again, don't know how they opened with Back Door Lover. It's fantastic. It is. But this song, this song is also a little bit sneaky.

Of that decade. I listened to this all the fucking time. Pretend to be nice and Three Small Words are my favorite. Let's remember that in 2000 there had been the O-Town

single Liquid Dreams. I had to double check. Which is the dirtiest pop song of all time. You're forgetting the theme to Ghostbusters. By Ray Parker Jr.? Yeah, a song all about

how good ejaculating feels. Bustin' makes me feel good. Oh, wow. That song is so fucking dirty if you look at the lyrics. All right. So, we've got a- The visible man hiding in your bed? Plane crashes.

When it comes through your door, unless you just want some more? I'm still mad that we didn't get a sexy ghost scene with Kate McKinnon. I know. Oh, wow. Yeah. They really should have had the balance you're saying that would have yeah the kate mckinnon oral sex ghost dream right it's so weird i think that no one on the internet would have had anything to say about that i don't think so no was i talking about this with you ben how weird it is that that the ghost blowjob in the original Ghostbusters is a dream sequence within a montage. It's very strange. Yeah, we were talking about this last week.

You guys talk about that every week. Yeah. Dan Aykroyd's getting blowjob dreams. Well, because there's just so many layers to it that and it's just, at the end of the day, weirdly unnecessary. It feels like he refused to take it out of the script.

It's almost as if sex gets used as just a punchline. Well, he, I think, just wanted an excuse to do his hilarious crossed eyes routine. Right? It is a good face. But it's like he refused to take it out of the script, and Reitman was like, fine, we're going to shoot it, but it will literally be a dream in a montage. But invalidated as much as we can in a movie about ghosts being real right let's have one fantasy sequence that lasts for three seconds during a musical montage about business booming

so josie and the pussycats right b Right. Boston makes me feel good. Yeah. He's in Riverdale. He finds the Pussycats by almost running them over. Right. I mean, this movie gets to the plot. Well, I like,

you're forgetting some stuff. They're fucking failing. They got poor branding. They're wearing little hats. The Cabots are making fun of them. And. Paolo Costanzo. And. Oh my gosh. Wait, throw those over.

I feel like a punk rock prom queen right now. And she's brought us cat ears. These are good cat ears. Where'd you get these? At a dollar store in Queens. Damn. Yeah. Merchandise spotlight. Merchandise spotlight. For the listener at home. The first of four merchandise spotlights. Yeah.

Yeah, Paolo Costanzo's their manager, which is how you know you're fucking up when the fourth lead of joey is your manager maybe they should have when the sixth lead of anamorphs is your manager maybe they should have bumped coming to lead so costanzo could have taken supporting actor i mean he would have taken it he's so good in this man costanzo's wikipedia profile picture is weirdly hot. Check it out. Yeah. I would. I love him in this movie. Who is he in this movie? He's the manager. You know, the...

Alex Cabot. Oh, okay. It's Alex and Alexandra Cabot. The guy with the crazy outfits. Yes. And he's very susceptible to the marketing machine. Right. He's their manager.

Cries outside of a Steve Madden. Fucking up. Yes. People roll up just to fucking mock these girls. You'll never be as big as DeJore. And Alan M, Josie's biggest crush,

all he wants is for her to fix the carburetor. Yep. You don't remember any other parts to his bit? Josie. Didn't.

Did I overheat the something? Something. That song's not as catchy as the other one because Alan M wrote it and he sucks. I wanted to get to this. Alan M. He's so boring.

He's a fucking dweeb. Get the fuck out of here, Alan M. It's a small pool in Riverdale. He's the hottest guy. Do we feel that Alan M is a little bit of a manic pixie dream boy? Yeah, except he's barely manic. He's kind of a wet blanket. He's a blank slate with which to like

ultimately like support Josie. Right. But he's just like standing there for her, you know, waiting to get asked out or whatever. And it's like,

come on, man. Exactly what he was in the comics and the cartoon though. He was a hunky guy and you were like, why aren't they dating? He's this beautiful boy

and he's got nothing. He's contributing. He's not. I mean, so Gabriel Mann, he's kind of cute, I guess. It's just lame, too. I just want to say, I don't like that he is like a folk act. Josie is way cooler than that.

I know. He should have been like a punk. Right. Or if you want to make him really different, make him into like hip hop. Right. I mean, I don't like that. He has like a harmonica-like rig and an acoustic guitar. Yeah, I know.

His mouth organ is super lame. That's so lame. In the comics, I forgot that he basically just looks like Fred from the Flintstones. I mean, from Scooby-Doo. He's just a skinned Fred. Yeah, with like... Reskinned. Not skinned.

He's not veins and bones. Yeah, he looks exactly like... Right. That's the thing. He was just like a boring, handsome guy. know i feel like i'm happy you don't want to say it well you don't want josie to be mean to him no but like i i would kind of dig it if like in the end like he misses his fucking shot and she ends up with some other cool person he only is interested her when she's in this like smoking hot dress he's like oh my god it's almost as if I didn't notice you before

because I'm only getting to objectify you now they almost she's all that her even though she fucking she looks the same she looks the same

okay so this is what I want to talk about so she's all that they make the effort to make her dorky she takes off glasses initially I know that she is

smoking for the entire movie but at least she's like she wears overalls she's got the overalls she's doing the painting you know like she's sort for the entire movie, but at least she's like, she's doing the painting, you know, like she's sort of like, you know, in this,

she's all that from minute one. She is all that. And then, yeah. Okay. She wears some like blazers. No shirt. You know,

she's got some cool looks once she's, you know, been mega recorded, but like she's, she's smoking from the start. Her hair is so good. Did you know they like just burned off all her hair really because she ruined her career is she bald is she like white ass willie they white ass wally i fucked it up god damn it go on and sorry they they um kept dying her hair red

while they were filming because it's like a very weird, it's very Reba. It's barely, yeah, yeah. It's very Reba. They kept dying it and I think it just like really fucked it up. So she ended up like cutting it all off, bleaching it,

so she had like a very kind of blonde cut underneath and then they shoot. So I think, I haven't like analyzed this, but I guess in some parts of the movie it's like legit hair and other parts, it's a wig.

Okay, because it's supposed to look like she has dark hair that she has dyed red over it. They're not going for a real red hair. Which she can definitely afford on their $0 budget. This movie cost $40 million. It was pretty expensive. That's a lot of money for $2,000. And I remember Entertainment Weekly. It made $15 domestic and like half a

million bucks worldwide like it'd be nothing outside of the united states entertain weekly like spring movie preview they were like this is gonna be huge this is the thing this is like a spring blockbuster cartoon adaptation movies were big rachel lee cook was big sure she's all that charlie's angels had been big Like they were like this is fucking we're right we're rolling. Right. Girl power.

And I saw it. I went on a date to see it. The girl I went with it was like this was like her number one most anticipated movie of the year.

Sounds like a real Griffin. Yeah. What if we realized the time that we had both gone on dates to Josie and the Pussycats it was actually with each other.

You guys were actually at the same theater. Yeah. And you should have just been with each other. And we were actually at the same theater. Yeah. And you should have just been with each other. And we were dating. And we were dating. You're just saying like

What if it turned out we were dating? Are you trying to make this ship happen? Maybe. Alright. Ben should we go? No you should start a ship man.

No I'm going to stay and just watch. Cool. You are the peeper. Yeah. Good call Ange. Alright so I also feel like

you've graduated to certain titles I don't know for some reason I'm thinking about that right now go on can you check the levels Ben

no it's fine okay don't worry give me more money thank you sure there you go great

that'll do Ben do you need I have some money would you like some yep thank you thank you so much I don't have any money I'm broke you Ben, do you need... I have some money. Would you like some? Yep. Thank you so much. I don't have any money. I'm broke.

You just seem like you need some. Yeah. No, I appreciate it, guys. Thank you for the money. Oh, and massage, David? You're too much. Oh, wow. That I can give you anytime.

Nature's money. The massage. The money of hands. What were you going to say about your date were you gonna brag no no she was just super pumped for this movie i was not dumped how cool what you were saying was they were positioning this as like yeah this is like the the spring teen centric hit of the summer right right what wasn't was not like it didn't open well against essentially no competition oh we'll talk about the box office later my friend okay but i do think and i think it was hampered

by archie comics brand was like not cool at all no and uh you know rachel lee cook might not have been a star like you know we weren't smart enough to recognize any comedy points uh you know i think rachel yeah i think rachel leigh cook maybe was not the draw that they hoped she would be i don't know don't you think if rachel leigh cook was peaking now she or let's say five years ago yeah because she's like you know she's 40 now she would be like a legend now in your narrative i'm saying i'm saying were she born 10 years later uh-huh she'd be having a real fucking strong go of it on the like emma stone runoff parts no i think she'd be on tv i feel like we're maybe ignoring the star power that developed from one miss rosario dawson exactly

the real fucking star of this movie and the irony irony of, so the plot being, you know, Val's storyline is that she feels rejected. Like her face is literally blocked out by a guitar. She is marginalized. She is the one woman of color in the group. Yes, she is. And very much is pushed to the side. Wait, Tara Reade is white? Sorry.

Yeah. Crazy. But the only time I think race is vaguely acknowledged is when Alan Cumming trying to explain them saying they're like three Christina Aguileras but one is very tan. Or they're like TLC but two of them are white. That's the joke, right?

But I also don't think the Captain Tennille thing is accidental. That is also babyface. Oh, I'm aware. But the fact that they're like in both cases, once the act gets big they're like maybe let's make it a little lighter and get the one, you know?

Right, yeah. And she's watching and holding onto a pillow going, oh no. And then little did we know Rosario Dawson would go on to be in Men in Black 2

the next year. Yes. That's true. And then just go on from there. Yeah. She was also in Pluto Nash the next year and 25th Hour.

She had a really crazy 2002. Rent came out in 05 as did Sin City and Rent came Nash the next year and 25th Hour she had a really crazy 2002 Rent came out in 05 as did Sin City and Rent came out the same year that's true this seems to be more

formative for Ange than for us I just googled it last night I love Rosaria I love Rosaria Dawson she had been in Kids that was her debut which is a very wholesome movie

where are we gonna do that mini series? Larry Clark? no well who wrote it? What's his name? Harmony Korean. Gummo Harmony Korean. I want to talk Gummo. Yeah, when we do a Ben's Choice mini-series

it will be Harmony Korean. He's got a new movie coming out, doesn't he? Oh, yeah. The Shia LaBeouf movie? Yes. Anyway, he's got Game, which he's great in, and she's been in some other stuff, down to you. Remember that? The fucking David Duchovny? No, Freddie Prinze Jr. And she's been in some other stuff. Down to You. Remember that? The fucking David Duchovny? No. Freddie Prinze Jr.

and Julia Stiles and Selma Blair. And Ashton Kutcher. What's the David Duchovny mini driver? Return to Me. That's a Bonnie Hunt picture. One of the few. In which her husband dies and the heart gets transplanted and David Duchovny and she falls in love with David Duchovny.

She falls in love with the new owner of her husband's heart. I've seen it. It's kind of dark. It's like they took to literally the heart as a visual representation of love. Yes.

And they were like, well, you fall in love with someone's heart, literally. Right, exactly. The muscle that pumps the person who has that organ. But you're right.

Okay, so Ange, some other things she was in. Shattered Glass, I forgot she's in that. Right. Alexander, which she's absolutely gorgeous in.

Sin City Rent. Clerks 2. Kind of the love interest. I've seen Clerks 2. I remember Kevin Smith was launching an independent Oscar campaign for Rosario Dawson. That movie, much like David Lynch with Laura Dern in Land Empire. And he was like, you you know people say this is a hard performance imagine having to fall in love with Brian O'Halloran on screen

and it's like I mean that actually is a fair point yeah that's a good point that's a very hard thing to make believable guides you recognizing your saints which she's amazing in you know it does take her a while to like kind of build up yeah because I mean she's always in stuff she's like yeah what

is like the quintessence like when you think of i mean rent was probably her biggest like first like huge i guess so when i like when you think of like her early yeah because she's the lead in rent like she's taking she sings the daphne rubin no she doesn't uh and she's i guess yeah i and now i'm getting annoyed. I think she was. Because I think Rosaria Dawson rules. But now I'm realizing, like, you know, she's a recurring character in, like, the Marvel Netflix shows. I was like, come on.

What's going on here? She's easily the best part of the Marvel Netflix show. Exactly. She's so good. I know she's, like, credited in a lot of them. But still, it's like, you know. Where's her? Where's her TV show or her starring role?

Yeah. And I'm looking through this. Didn't she do that shitty Katherine Heigl sort of like flipped fatal instinct? Isn't that unforgettable? Yes. Right. Yes. And, you know, she was Batgirl in your favorite movie.

Oh, that's her best performance the last couple of years. She's so good. Lego Batman. Which she's very funny in. She went to Harvard for police. She showed up for Sin City 2, which I mean. Yeah. Good for her. Credit for showing up, I guess.

I think that functions as community service. And Trance is about her vagina. Okay. Okay. It literally is. That's the plot point in that fucking awful movie. No. It's very weird.

It sucks. Danny Boyle made that movie. Yeah. Anyway. Do you guys know who else auditioned for Val? Shoot. Beyonce. I did know this.

And she wasn't funny, right? She was very shy, they said. Which, if you have studied Beyonce, as I have. This is in her shy period? Well, no. I think she's genuinely, she keeps to herself. And she had to make a persona, Sasha Fierce. I mean, when did Goldmember come out?

Is Goldmember the same year? Goldmember was 2003, my friend. She was kind of like working up to it. No, it's 2002, Griffin. When was Carmen? Jesus Christ. Carmen Hip Hop. Carmen Hip Hopper is 2001.

I think that's the same time as that. Right. So she was like kind of venturing into like, they're all like in their 20s at this point. Also auditioned Aaliyah. Wow. Yeah, I know that, which is a bummer to even think about. Also a bummer, left eye, Lisa Lopez. Wait, what?

Wait, is there some kind of a curse? I know, I know. It's so fucked up. This audition? No, both of those women were almost Val in this movie about like rock stars dying tragically. Wait a second. Also auditioned, John F. Kennedy Jr.? Wait a second.

What's going on here? I was going to make a 9-11 joke. I knew you were. All right. I decided not to. I knew you were. Speaking of cursed careers, the other pussycat is played by Tara Reid. In her best performance unequivocally, right?

There's no argument. I'm trying to even think of if there's a... I mean, Big Lebowski, she's pretty funny. I was going to say that's her second best performance. She's weirdly terrible in American Pie. Awful. And I think it's because she's better doing comedy. She's better in this.

She gets to just play with this and have fun. Play like this. I will say, besides the terrible special ed joke in this movie, the one other joke that makes you go... The sign? No, the sign is actually fantastic. She says, honk if you love pussy cats. Cats is blocked out.

And then she runs away with her arms up like a muppet. I think the joke is funny because she runs away with her arms up. Fantastic. But I do think it is like a little like alright, what are we going to do with the third one? She's dumb and blonde. She's very dumb in this movie. That was the dynamic in the cartoon.

It is the dynamic in the cartoon, but it's a little tired. It's reductive. I will say, though, the one thing this movie does that I think is, like, a little fun with her is that she gets Wyatt right away. Yes. She says, like, they go in there and I'm like, don't you think this is weird? And she goes, yeah, isn't it weird? He ordered, like, a cappuccino and he wiped off all the foam and like, why didn't he just order an espresso?

And also the way he was folding his napkin. It's like he's worried that he doesn't fit in. She immediately nails down Wyatt, which is revealed at the end of the movie and she's very intuitive. She has the line about the chill going up her spine because of

Fiona. That line's really funny. She's on the O. It's not the O, guys. But she has a few lines like that where you're like, oh, she- She nails all her lines. I also think she's really funny in the scene with Carson Daly. Just genuinely. Oh, what a great sentence.

Carson Daly. I just want to- I'm just going through a career, guys. She dated after this movie. He's casting this and that whole scene is playing off of the fact that everyone knew them as a couple at the time

they were engaged and broke up they had like some weird tempestuous romance I mean she's had a you know an interesting life I miss Last Call man

you miss Last Call you don't even miss TRL you miss Last Call yeah would you like DVR it no stay up that's when Ben woke up in time for Last Call.

Last Call was on at 1.30 in the morning. Am I correct? I need a fix, baby. I think there are two reasons why Melody kind of works in this movie, despite being a sort of hokey archetype. It's a hokey archetype. One is Tara Reid plays her without judgment, because I don't think she's in much of a position to judge.

One is Tara Reid plays her without judgment because I don't think she's in much of a position to judge. But I hate when I see actors playing dumb characters with a sense of like, look how much smarter than I am than who I'm playing. And that gets to the other root of the thing is I think they write her as not just being like stupid, but being very childlike and genuine. The key is how sincere she is about everything. The moment that makes the character for me is when Josie says, if I could go back in time and change everything, me and I said to you, I would. And she goes, if I could go back in time,

I would meet Snoopy. I love that line. It's a good line. With all of my heart, because you know she's going to say something like a little off. Right, you're waiting for the line. And then proceeds to say a fictional character that doesn't exist.

But it's not like that it's still currently around. Within the movie, they're charmed by that. They're like, oh man. And that's what I love about you. And she's in a rotating car

about to be murdered. Oh, that is such a good bit. Yeah, that's so funny. And I love you. I want to say the last three lines of her Wikipedia page are really fascinating.

Okay. In August 2011, Reed publicized that she had married Bulgarian financier Zachary Keahov. Then in October announced that they were not legally married. Next paragraph. She dated infected mushroom Israeli musician Erez Aizen from 2013 to 2014. Wait, she dated an infected mushroom? Yes, that's what she did.

And then next paragraph. Did William S. Burroughs write an infected mushroom? Yes, that's what she did. And then, next paragraph. Did William S. Burroughs write this fucking Wikipedia? Exactly. He just threw the letters up and they fell down. In 2016, she and actor Dean May, never heard of him, participated in marriage boot camp reality stars, but were rejected when it was revealed they were not in a relationship. What the fuck is this?

What are you doing, Tara? Come on! I mean, american pie is fascinating because literally also how'd they figure that out cast got a chance to be a movie star like big ensemble cast and they were like i guess all of them are chris klein got like multiple leading roles shannon elizabeth tara reed mina savari all of them she was in um after this she was in american pie 2 american pie 2 she's in van wilder right in american pie 2 like her character's storyline is that she's having a lot of sex in college it's the rule of three joke right yeah i remember the scene in van wilder where she shows up at the the final party and there's like a really like gauzy you know sort of entrance shot

of her my friend leaned over and went oh my god she's so hot who is your friend i was like really yeah even when i was a teen i was like i don't think i i don't think i'm attracted to tara reed she seems like too much for me i don't think i could handle tara reed uh she just felt like it was she's on scrubs you know playing like the cigarette voice kind of like girlfriend like yeah she was like she was kind of uh cute in like two episodes and it turns out she's sort of like shortly after she was like she was kind of cute in like two episodes and then it turns out she's sort of like I feel like shortly after she just veered into like

I'm hanging out with Lindsay Lohan now right she was in that scene group yeah she was also in

My Boss's Daughter right and Alone in the Dark right where she said famously doing the press tour my character in this is like smart

well put later quoted by the president of the United States Donald Trump and she had doing the press tour. My character in this is like smart. Well put. Later quoted by the president of the United States. And she had a reality show called Terror Dice where she traveled to various places.

Sometimes I feel like we're living in Terror Dice. Anyway, that's Tara Reid's career. We did all the Pussycats careers. Right. Are we,

so we, are we going back to the plot? How you doing, Anne? Doing good. So the plane is crashed in Riverdale. Yeah. Oh, great. Right. Are we going back to the plot? How you doing, Angie? Doing good. So the plane has crashed in Riverdale.

Yeah. Oh, great. Oh, great, great. Oh, fantastic. Josie and the Pussycats are just sort of straight busking it. The guy, the owner of the store they're playing outside is threatening to call the cops. And so they walk out with their instruments. Wyeth is on the phone driving to Paradise by the dashboard light.

Right. And he stops the car. They're walking by in slow motion. They look at him holding the instruments as number one band in the world. It's a very good shot. Signs being removed. Such a good bit. And I love just him taking the shit out of the CD case. Yeah, yeah.

To hold it. So he can see how they look in a little Lucite case. And then he looks directly at the camera and raises one eyebrow. It's like a Frank Tashlin movie. This movie is so fucking on point. I think it's very upfront about it, too. I think it's annoying that people didn't get that. His car says Ray-Ban in stickers across the top.

Because I remember early on, there's that bathroom where there's just literally Starbucks logos behind them. There's no way you look at that and go like, they were trying to fool me, but I spotted them. It's got a themed bedroom. Yeah, it's like a joke. Guys, it's funny. It's also really tight. It's really

cohesive. It has a very well-identified pitch that's reflected in every aspect of the filmmaking and the performances. The score is so funny in this movie. John Frizzell. Yeah. Who weirdly has written a bunch of episodes of TV now, not as a composer. Okay.

He wrote an episode of The Office and he's written 11 episodes of some procedural that I'm forgetting. Sure. But the score is really good at doing those dramatic stings that, like, get laughs. Yeah. Anytime Wyatt's doing anything, like, remotely devious. Right. And they do this great structural joke where they cut to Wyeth, like, whining and dining them at the cafe of the Virgin Megastore, right? And only after they're, like, deep into the negotiations that they mention— a starbucks oh they're at a starbucks they're at a starbucks

they go yes i think he goes to mega records first or after i can't remember if he gives them they he goes to him right oh oh and that's when he right grabs the teen and yes that's when we know i think that happens before he meets josie yes that's where he gets the call from right there's also that really great bit where the mtv news thing is pre-recorded like it's so funny I think that happens before he meets Josie. Because then he gets the call from Fiona. And he's like, yes, yes, I'll handle it. There's also that really great bit where the MTV News thing is pre-recorded. It's so funny that MTV allowed this to happen. I know. Because they're so squarely being mocked.

Same with Carson Daly. It's crazy they let him play a murderer in this movie. It's really funny that he plays a murderer in this movie. Was the show that was on um like uh what was the fake the the show making the band or together in the music no no behind the music but no it's just like mtv it's not only that carson daly's like playing a murder it's like mtv is being so mocked for being the like bottleneck the pipeline that like feeds us children and it's not even cool like it's like lame like this the movie is like feeds us this shit. Mind-warping children of America. And it's not even cool. Like, it's like lame.

Like this movie is like MTV is fucking lame now. TRL is lame. It's a bunch of cardboard people. Like it's, and MTV was like, oh yeah, that sounds funny. Like, let's do that. And VH1 and Behind the Music, they're all Viacom. And this is a universal movie.

Like, they're letting another mega entertainment company just take their brand and fart on it so Wyatt turns them into the next du jour the du jour du jour I was going to say I love that they hide within the cut that's a bit of a time jump the fact that he actually

hasn't heard them at all he was shown because he's having the conversation with them they go to the bathroom and they go but he's never listened to our music yet he presents them the contract. Right. I was here with real rock stars

who wanted to wreck a deal. Funny. So good in this. He's so good. Where is his Oscar? I remember my- Where is his Oscar? For this performance,

him and- We'll get to Parker and spend hopefully like 20 minutes on her. But like- Yeah, sure. That's what we need to do. We need to spend

20 minutes on her. My brother Jamesy sure I remember him coming home being dropped off the great James Newman coming home

being dropped off by his friend's mom who had taken him and his friend to go see Josie and the Pussycats on a play date fair

and she was telling my parents how bad the movie was what and she was like Alan Cumming it's embarrassing I have no idea

why he did this after Cabaret. He's such a good actor. And that woman was married to a record executive. So you think maybe she couldn't see the forest from the trees,

though? Kind of, because it's like this performance is fucking dead on. I don't mean to be rude. Yeah. He's fantastic.

What a perfect comedic pitch. Yeah. And then we quickly fast, they get successful. Yep, of course, there's a little montage. They find the charts.

Very quickly followed by, isn't it crazy? This has all happened in one week. So funny. So funny. I also love, there's the shot when they see the billboard in Times Square where they're rebranded as Josie and the Pussycats. What do you want to read? A comic book.

Go watch an animated series. Go see a motion picture of Josie and the Pussycats. Prior to that says, would you rather go see the Pussycats? Or three fierce, ferocious ladies. They have this beautiful matte painted Times Square where they don't even take Times Square and put fake billboards over it. They compress all of Times Square where they don't even like take Times Square and put fake billboards over it

they compress all of Times Square into one corner so it's literally like you can't see anything but screens and billboards it's a crazy

made up New York it looks like Akira or something it's like unbelievable this movie's great and they're in their beautiful like loft apartment

and as we've already noted a million times any scene there is some sort of product placement in the background somewhere yeah they have the themed rooms like you say apartment. As we've already noted a million times any scene there is some sort of product placement in the background basically. Yeah.

They have the themed rooms like you say. They each have a theme. That's what I remember as a kid. That was like the extent of the marketing. I was like why is

their room like Revlon themed anyway? And the like McDonald's shower with the fry guy loofah. It's so funny. That's so fun.

And the lipstick on the mirror. And then yeah what happens as soon as they... So Melody's starting to get these messages. Pretend to be nice. Right, right. That's their big song.

Another amazing song. They see the machine. They see the big white mixing board thing that puts this The Megasound 3000. Right. Which looks a lot like that machine right behind the truffler tree. But anyway. Just ignore it.

Okay. Thank you for more money. I appreciate that. It sounds exactly the same. Here you go. There's everything I own. Do you want to borrow my credit card? Great.

Yeah. Thank you so much. Here's my contract. You now play Arthur on the Tick. Have fun making a TV show. Wait a second. I think he actually just wanted to give you that one. Wait.

Yeah. No. No, no, no. It's cool. It's really easy. It's really easy. All right. Yeah. You won really easy. Oh, all right. Yeah.

You won't be tired. At all. It's really good for your mental and physical health. Anyway, so. I'm a moth now. Pretend to be nice. Pretend to be nice. Yeah.

They're overnight the biggest band in the world. Right. Sold out. Yes. Yeah, yeah. And they still haven't done a concert yet. They haven't done a concert yet, but now they're doing a concert. But they have a big concert coming up.

That is going to be a pay-per-view on AOL. It's a pay-per-view on AOL. It's their first show ever. But before that. And it's being sponsored by Kodak. Right. Yes. And you have to get your 3DX headphones.

3D, yes, yes. Your Kodak headphones. At an arena that does not exist in New York City. Of course. It's so large. But it's like the Beatles playing Shea Stadium. It's like, here's the coming out concert for who we're telling you are going to be the next great band. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But before that. For the new du jour. Before that, they got to put some FaceTime in with the head of Mega Records. That's right. Throwing a ball in celebration of herself for discovering another great band. Her name is Fiona. She's played by Parker Posey. Oh my Fiona. She's played by Parker Posey. She's great. Parker Posey coming off of

Best in Show. Parker Posey at the height of her powers. She's like indie comedy queen. So good. And the moment where it's Fiona and her whole get up flanked by four hunky dudes. They're lifting her up. She's descending a staircase. Might be one of the greatest

entrances in film history. To the Hollywood musical cover of Pretend to Be Nice. Yeah, I think that might be of all the songs. I think my favorite just might be the like, Why do you do what you do to me, baby? It's so good. As she's just like lavishly like. Yeah.

And meanwhile, Alan Cumming is like the genie in Aladdin. just like running up to random people being like, isn't she fabulous? I also, I feel like obviously these performances are heightened. Right. But Fiona reminds me a lot of a lot of real people I know in the entertainment industry. What? Wait a second. Are you saying that Hollywood's full of phonies? Yeah, but also,

also the, like, absorbing, like, I now had some small fingerprint in something that's, like, a big sensation, and then needing to, like, enter to the music and make it, like, part of your identity where it's like, I'm the one. And then lands with her arms out and goes, welcome to your party,

as if, and, you know, surrounded by photos of her face. ice sculptures of her name. Right. And she just wants to be friends with the pussycat. She wants to gossip

any junk food. Let's gossip. She puts the one potato chip on her plate and goes, oh, such a pig and then puts it back.

The Pringle, that scene is really surreal. This scene is very, this whole sequence is incredibly surreal. Are we, I, this whole sequence is incredibly surreal. Are we, I believe we are introduced to her prior to this. Yes, that's true.

She does the FBI. On the phone, right. She does the demonstration of the subliminal mess. We haven't talked about Eugene Levy. That's very funny. All blue. He's like denim on denim in that video. Yeah.

He's very funny. Now, I would like to point something out. Okay. That this character and sort of like what she is trying to do subliminally is an interesting metaphor for the Facebook scandal of today. Okay.

It is controlling people through the media. And it's just really interesting in how ridiculous this seems, right? When watching this movie. But it essentially is now happening. Are you saying I can't trust Facebook? No, but you can trust Instagram. They're not owned

by Facebook, right? No, they're good. Great. Instagram is the new Facebook. That was like a conversation starter. Sure. Heath Ledger. Question. Oh, man.

Ben, how do you feel about the fashion? You were texting me about Fiona's outfit. Great question. All the fashion is great. Let me put on my soap shoes, which come with a grind plate in the bottom. So you can jump and grind down staircases. Three people are going to love this. I'm going to put on my Stussy sweatshirt

that I bought at PacSun. And then I'm going to throw on my Tommy Hilfiger Carpenter's jeans. Your point is that it's 2001. Wait a second. Are you telling me this movie was 2001? Encapsulated in clothes? Yes.

Okay, thanks, man. This movie is so obsessed with fads and trends of the moment that it actually works so well as a time capsule. I think this movie is the perfect time.

Music-wise, style-wise. Right, because it's so specific. Contained. You gotta crack open a Zima. But you don't even drink, man. That's the line in the movie. I think the line in the movie I think I'm gonna start I think they're gonna start yeah which is actually

kind of clever because right it's not just wholesome shit that they're trying to brainwash people Patty Chayeski well they gotta so the idea is that

they're brainwashing the youth of America because they have disposable income from babysitting but also the youth of America are cool enough

they can't just be told to like something. They gotta be tricked. Sneak it under music. So that is what happens. We are introduced to Parker Posey and her amazing outfits with feathers. Where when she turns, we get like a

fun little sound effect. But the Eugene Levy line where he says rock and roll music or as some, it's known in some cultures rock music he's really funny he's really good i know um and then fiona has an actor her fun that was no i said cappuccino yeah i like that this movie treats eugene levy like he's brad pitt right um but he's perfect and that scene is perfect yeah you've got tom Tom Butler, who later would play the president in something or other, right? He's a president in something. The Butler did it, yeah. He played the president.

Butler did it. Starts as an FBI agent. Yes. Moves on to becoming the president. Is he the president in X-Men 2? Isn't he? In X2, X-Men United? I think he is.

I think he is, right? I think that's the one that he's the president. Are we going to go on2 X-Men United I think he is I think he is right I think that's the one that he's the president are we gonna go on an X-Men tangent I mean I mean Alan Cumming it's Alan Cumming though

my other favorite Alan Cumming performance it is a pretty good Alan Cumming performance Nightcrawler on the record my favorite X-Men in comic or in music

he's French comic and music I love his music Nightcrawler not finding I'm not gonna look this up we have to talk about he's my favorite in comics

and in movies Parker Posey brainwashing the youth of America trying to turns out she has something even more devious she's trying to hide from the FBI

she's trying to make herself in the American government her bit of where she's just like where she keeps like being like yes of course and then says something like that was close

you'll never yeah you'll never see it coming she keeps doing that it yes, of course. And then says something like, oh, wait. That was close. That was close. Yeah, you'll never see it coming. She keeps doing that. It's funny, though. She sees what coming? The way that she plays the arch kind of evil character. It's so perfect.

God, I love Parker Posey. I have such a crush on her. She is a dream. I will. So technically, her and Wyatt, I mean, Josie and the Pussycats is a comic book. They are comic book villains. And I would argue some of the best comic book villains we have seen in cinema. I'm pointing an edge.

David's pointing an edge. Good point. It's a point for a point. She's better than I would say some Marvel villains. One point point, Anne. She's better than a lot of Marvel villains. A lot of Marvel villains. I mean, you know, low bar, but still.

Well, I'm saying, okay, so she's not as good as Mal Keith. We are not going through a list of every Marvel villain. Wow. I think we should go

through a list of every Marvel villain right now. Mal Keith. Parker Posey would be a good Marvel villain, though. She'd be a good Marvel villain. She should have been in Thor.

Yeah, she should have been in Thor. Did you see Christopher Eccleston saying that making that movie was like having a gun in his mouth? Yeah. Christopher Eccleston seems like a that movie was like having a gun in his mouth? Yeah. Christopher Eccleston seems like a not chill guy.

Yeah, not at all. Because he also said that making Doctor Who was like having a gun in his head or whatever. He seems stressed out by making things. So he made Thor 2. Yeah. Okay. He's Malekith. Can I just make a quick observation? Sure.

I just wanted to get to say it on the podcast. This is your chance to whatever you want to, yeah. Everyone, I would just like to point out that Thor Ragnarok is just the emperor's new groove. Thank you very much. It opens with him speaking directly to the camera. Holy cow. So you're saying he's David Spade. He is not ready to rule his land.

And he's a little too cocky. And then an older woman steps onto the throne and arguably has a better right to that throne. Right. But also has a slightly homicidal edge to her. Is a little evil. But you kind of get her point. Maybe she should be in charge.

And then Karl Urban is Kronk? I was going to say. I would say Valkyrie might be... I think Valkyrie is Pacha. Who's the Hulk? Are Valkyrie and the Hulk kind of both Pacha? I feel like Valkyrie and the Hulk are both Pacha. Because she doesn't want to help him

and is kind of forced into it to get some type of benefit out of it for herself. She's the gruff heart. Hulk is the sort of brute force. Right. And she I would also argue that she is a brute force. Yeah, no, but he gets like launched out very far away from his phone and it's from his home. And then he

has to, sure, he has to find his way back. He has to go on like a spiritual and physical journey. Right. And he's humbled by the journey and having to defeat that person. And he gets his eye plucked out in the Emperor's New Groove. trial. And he's humbled by the journey and having to defeat that person. And he gets his eye plucked out in the Emperor's New Groove.

Yeah. And didn't Sting write six original songs for Thor Ragnarok that were all cut out? Yeah. Because they were all on the zither or something.

I don't know. I mean, it was short on Eartha Kitt, but it was fun regard. Eartha Kitt did die in between making those two bad career move

yeah exactly she could have been in Ragnarok otherwise yeah alright so anyway also Dark World's the best Thor movie

don't have it I like the ending I'm with David I like Dark World yeah it's the best it's the best one I don't hate it Ragnarok is fun

but anyway it's the Emperor's New Groove he's literally I mean now I'm just gonna watch Emperor's New Groove more like the Emperor's Old Groove because it's already been I'm just gonna watch Emperor's new groove more like the Emperor's old groove because it's already been done by Kuzco and Co

what's his name? great movie we should have done that movie as well as Josie and the Pussycats and we're back at Dinosaur Story yeah

or whatever it's called so the plane has crashed so yeah the plane crashed in Riverdale no uh I don't know did we cover the opening credits at all? this is a universal picture

oh should we start recording yeah okay yeah I did want to mention this is a Mark Platt production yeah he of the Oscar nominee for La La Land

stolen Oscar for La La Land he's the one who got up he's the one who says like well we didn't win anyway or whatever uh yeah uh no no he's the older guy

who goes up first and his speech was here's to the ones here's to the fools who helped me dream right my aunt like then yeah that was his intro for listing off the things and then they snatched his oscar i know i felt bad for him because the one they deserved yeah and gave it to the best they actually won if i had to go up on on any stage but the oscar stage and then i i delivered a really cheesy speech that i had clearly written beforehand here's to the fools who then was told i hadn't won i would have

literally vanished from existence out of shame if you make a corny speech like that it's like what do you just want an oscar give him a break yeah exactly and then it's like it's like kill the beast um so i mean like this is a short movie. I mean, they're doing the propaganda, and then they make their move against Val because they can tell that Val knows what's up. Josie listens to a disc man in the bathtub.

Right. She does. While they send them to TRL to get murdered. Right, which is really funny. Until you get to the Bill Cosby joke, which used to be the funniest part of the movie. Yeah, like, the punchline being, wouldn't it be funny if Bill Cosby was violent against women?

At the time, it was absurd. Aries Spears, man. He's TP in Jerry Maguire. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, so they both kick their asses. They do. And Carson Daly gets beaten up and then he's hosting TRL.

By a cardboard Matt Damon. I know, it's really funny. I just and then he's hosting TRL. By a cardboard Matt Damon. I know, it's really funny. I just like that he's hosting TRL. Yeah, I do too. And he's struggling to put on his suit to have. It's so nasty about TRL. I know. I just appreciate that. I remember going to school and telling everyone like, Carson Daly's the villain of

the movie. You have to see this thing. And did anyone go see it? It was very popular within my grade at school at the time. I think kids went to see it. I just think it didn't cross over. But not enough. Clearly. Like, I mean, if kids had seen it, it would have made more than it made. I think you're right. I think it would have

made like a $30 million, not a $14 million. Kids just, they have all that disposable income. They just shelled out the money. But everyone thought this was like a $70 movie at most. At least it was a $70 million film. Well, it wasn't. I know. So Rachel Leigh Cook is bad.

Do you like the scene where she's a bad person? Who's a rock star? Great suit. I am. Her suit is amazing. So she's wearing a leopard print blazer with one button done and no clothes underneath. It's a great look. Can I say my borderline gross thing?

But it's important and it has to clothes underneath. It's a great look. Can I say my borderline gross thing but it's important and it has to be noted. Okay. I hosted a screening of this at Videology with Pilot Verwet. Uh huh. Past and future guests. Past and future guests who this movie is basically like if you kind of like took Pilot's brain and just sort of like mashed it onto a screen.

It's like aid ego super ego is Josie Val and Melody. Very much so. Watching the film on a screen at Videology in front of everyone, I realized that this is the most braless movie of all time. Yes. Okay.

Pretty pointedly, right? I'm not saying there's any larger point here. I just think it has to be acknowledged. Especially the more famous they get, the more braless they get. That's true. The get that's true and and it's broad does not feature in their in their most high concept looks what's more uncomfortable to me is the like low-rise jeans and them being like capable of doing anything in those somehow it's a lot of like low-rise dreams barely lower i mean it's 2001 the midriff is like right the costumer exactly

like you start on the midriff and then you figure everything else out. What do you call that top? I was asking beforehand. That comes to a point at your belly button. I don't know why you're looking at me. Ben's the fashion expert. It looks like you wear a bandana around your torso. Exactly.

It's like a bandana. It's not like a halter top. It's just like a non-shirt. I don't know how to describe it, but it is. Tara Reid never wears a shirt that has sleeves and a midriff you know what I mean there's always something removed

she's lucky if there's a back to it yes but Wyatt turns Josie bad has her stand up Alan Am the hottest guy in Riverdale he plays a shitty music for a shitty audience of just Alexandra but he tells her

it's cancelled, though. Yes, right. And he has to do that whole thing. Yes, hold on, one second. He's funny. A lot of flip phones in this movie. Oh, they're great. They flip out. Yeah. Good tech. Well, it's great, and everything was better at this time. Oh, I see. And everyone who

is young now, or is old but wasn't young then you suck sorry you missed out on the best times in the world this is definitely a time to be shitting on the teenagers of America it's not like they've done anything important recently oh yeah okay

I'm just saying it's just really too bad they didn't have a portable CD player. Those are, I mean, ideal tech, especially, you know, when you would just walk with them and then it would skip while you're on the bus. And you would bring your CD wallet with your 10 CDs in it because that's all the music you got to listen to. I have to hang out on the subway with the score to ants in case I felt like putting that on. If you wanted to interact with media, you could go get some really cool magazines or go hang out a record store instead of downloading bullshit, posting on fucking social media and spending all your time on a fucking computer. Listening to podcasts on your phone. Yeah, fucking podcasts.

How do you even make money? If there are two things we hate, they're podcasts and social media for podcasts. How do you even make money? If there are two things we hate, they're podcasts and social media for podcasts. Damn it, I can't even. You know what? He's standing up, folks. He's sitting down. I'm a good boy and I like it.

Great. Thanks, good boy. Josie, she fucking trips, the CD falls out. She realizes the trance she was in. Her bus pass also falls out. Yep. She realizes the trance she was in. Her bus pass also falls out. Yeah. Of her bag.

That's what really kind of kicks her out of it. Also, can we point out the slow song being You See Me? And it's about, like, layers underneath. Mm-hmm. Yep. Oh, the layers. I love that CGI shot where they go through her headphones. Into the CD player.

Through the cord. That's really cool. That's a good shot. Oh, it's very 2000s. The workings of the Discman. Oh man, I love my Discman. But she calls up the Cabots and now in the final chunk of the movie

they work in the Josie and the Pussycats solving mysteries element. Right. Which is we have to figure out what's going on here. They check that machine. Figure out the machine is... You slept with Mr. Moviefone.

That's a funny line. Mr. Pyle is really great in this movie. One of our finest. Mr. Moviefone gag is also great. Yeah. Very funny. Movie Phone. That's a funny line. Mr. Pile is really great in this movie. One of our finest. Mr. Movie Phone gag is also great. Yeah. Very funny. Very 2001. Very much so.

Jerkin. Jerkin. And they, well, here's what I love. I guess, well, are we getting to, we're getting to the revelation of the mystery. The car scene, right? Yes. Because, yeah, Josie goes to confront at the concert and she shows up at the concert yes because it's like the kid the bet yeah basically parker posey busted on them when

they're at the recording when they're at the recording but she basically takes them hostage right yeah because they're gonna blow them up in the car the mtv news sketch is already recorded which is really funny yes um so her friends um and and you know the final subliminal message is revealed which is that Fiona is really cool Fiona is the prettiest girl in the world

and she doesn't like Mr. Mewpon's line reads so then she starts she cuts in right which is also a good bit by Parker Posey

if I was a guy I'd want to date her if I was a girl I'd want to be her best friend Parker and coming this is like a Scooby Doo scene they're unmasking If I was a guy, I'd want to date her. If I was a girl, I'd want to be her best friend. Parker and Cumming, this is like a Scooby-Doo scene. They're unmasking. But that's the Hanna-Barbera thing. That's what I'm saying.

It's funny. That's what I'm saying. That was my point. I made it. Hanna-Barbera used to be animals who were parodies of popular figures, and then they moved to teenagers who solved mysteries. And that was their big contribution to teenagers who solve mysteries. And that was their big contribution to the Josie mysteries.

Like abandoned amusement parks and the such. Well, bad news, you're too old. You gotta be a teenager or you gotta be a fart detective. I'll never be a teenager again. 2001, Ben. Better times. Yeah, 2001, the best year in American history. What I love about the final

showdown is that the government gets away with it, pins it all on Alan Cumming and Parker Posey, and they never reveal that they were a part of the conspiracy. A cynical movie. I love it. And then go on to say, actually, we're going to shut this whole thing down.

We figured movies are so much better. Josie and the Pussycats is the best movie ever. Join the army. It's so funny. And we all did. When was that Simpsons episode that has the same plot line it's after this right 100 it's like a total ripoff of this 100 the one within sync in it yes it does have that great line where lt smash's real name is revealed to

be lieutenant lt smash always gets me yeah uh so the movie rules and they get up on stage they do a great concert she gets f Fiona to destroy her own machine. The FBI agents come in. DeJure reveals that they've been behind it the entire time. The four actors, the three actors who were busy

in a full cast are replaced by The monkey is also in a cast. He also was booking a lot of shit at the time. That's the one thing that bugs me. The DeJure thing?

The fake DeJure? It makes Josie and the Pussycats look like a cheap movie that fucking Donald Faison and Breckenbeyer couldn't clear their schedules. You're blowing up at the time. Faison was on season three of Clueless.

I'm aware. I was watching it. But I mean, come on. They couldn't show up for another day of filming? I agree. I agree. You know. It is a little.

It's a little cheap. But the Metallica joke is. Yeah, that's great. That's a good one. Question. And I thank God every day I knew the lyrics to Enter Sandman. He's so dramatic the way lyrics to Enter Sandman. He's so dramatic the way he says Enter Sandman.

What happened to that guy? The final song. Right. On the album. Yes. Is the exchange between her and the boyfriend in the song? I don't believe so. Oh, like where he cuts in and he's like, and she can somehow hear him across the arena just going, I love you, Josie.

And she's like, I love you too. And then they make out. I'm really selfish. I'm going to disrupt this concert for everyone else. Right. I'm very boring, but I'm a man and I'm in your presence. Hottest guy I've ever known. Kiss me.

I like that Josie says like, we're going to play something for you. If you like it, that's cool. They do the play something for you if you like it that's cool they do the ear thing if you don't that's cool too right takes the ears off and it's like if we're gonna make it we gotta make it in a way that's real right it's her money ball moment well we also kind of missed skip over the point of like not only are uh wyatt and um fiona like secretly evil and whatever this is the sc Scooby-Doo moment. But it turns out,

we obviously know the whole plot, it's just to learn that, but, but they're, they're both insecure and it's kind of vaguely hinted at throughout the movie about like,

what, what do you mean you don't want to be, isn't, oh no, Wyatt says, when all the, somehow their high school, those girls show up at their door.

Right, don't you want, And he's like, what's the point of being rock stars if you can't like screw over people from your high school and then he kind of like

coughs because he was white ass Wally he's been holding it in for 15 years I think it's brilliant to say like all adults are just

insecure people especially in the entertainment industry exactly you own it you try to make beautiful art about it or you become

vindictive and want power exactly it's a beautiful movie it's also funny to think how the music industry used to have power i know that's the other thing it's a real trip about this movie like a label what the hell who cares they don't even talk about like napster like the idea of pirating doesn't even factor into this you know yeah it's even it was it was oh yes it. 99-2000 was when that started. I guess I started using LimeWire

after that. No, I didn't. I was such a big Napster kid. I was a big Napster kid. I liked Soul Seek. I remember taking two months to put together a mix CD because Napster took so long in dial-up. You would download the wrong version of it.

I had the wrong version of a Beatles song for years on my phone and realized my friend was like, this is not the Beatles. Let's all find our mix tapes or mix

CDs from this time. I know I can find mine. I can find mine. I want them. When this episode comes out, we can find mine. Oh, yeah. I can find mine. Oh, I have plenty. All right. I want them. When this episode comes out, we got to put out that track list. Okay. Jesus. All right. But speaking of track lists, Ange has brought in a little bit of a merchandise spotlight.

That's true. We do have to do a merchandise spotlight. Courtesy of my brother as a gift for this past Christmas. Oh. Okay. Because I almost got one for you, and I felt like I remembered you posting that you had gotten it I also have bought this for myself

yeah it's great it's great because at the time of the release it irked me how close the soundtrack was to what I wanted

because it was like music from Josie and the Pussycats an original soundtrack and then it's all Josie tracks other than DeJure and I was like

I wish they had gone the extra mile and just committed to this being an album by Josie and the Pussycats and now Ange if you want to present this I have a record from

Mega Records with the same cover that they have in the film not the movie poster of Josie and the Pussycats it is the 15th anniversary, I believe. I'm taking this out. The record itself is Purple Leopard Prince. Boom.

Damn, that's a hot record. Pass that around. Thank you. Oh, it's got the Mega Records logo. And they originally released this, they did a screening in LA where they had uh the woman from from letters to cleo performed the songs live and they had rachel lee cook our finest actress they actually had the whole cast rosario made it at the end i guess yeah it was

cute because it was so sad because val is left out and then I think she was like on a flight or something and got caught up but she eventually gets to join the panel. That's awesome. But it's really great because they have so they interview both directors. I can't remember if Babyface

might be interviewed in that too. I think so. And he talks about how like he never really worked on anything like pop rock or whatever so this was kind of like a challenge for him.

There's interviews with like Tara Reid and Rachel Leigh Cook you want some other people who got special thanks on here sure from the music industry yes

Biff Naked remember her nope that was a thing Adam Duritz from the Counting Crows Tommy Mottola remember him

sure I think it's interesting all these people who worked on the music of the music And so The fun thing about This record Matthew Sweet

He of Girlfriend Remember that album Vaguely It's a good album Anyway It also comes with a 45 of DeJure Which is amazing

Which is what I really love Because it separates The DeJure into its own corner And it Gives you a pure Josie album As if they're a real band It's pretty sweet

Ben's looking at it And I think one reason You were confused Is the poster for Josie album as if they're a real band it's pretty sweet Ben's looking at it uh and I think one reason you were confused is the poster for Josie and the Pussycats says in theaters this April and then below it says movie soundtrack and scores in stores March 27th they pre-released the movie soundtrack I think they all because it was like playing I watched clips I. I was on YouTube and I was watching there was apparently on TRL MTV's New Year's special had the cast of Josie and the Pussycat

leading into 2001. It is wild. That is wild and that is the most 2001 thing in the world. It sounds like January into March was them marketing the hell out of it, playing it on MTV as they're mocking MTV. At the Foot Locker.

They made their play, but it opened to $4.5 million, number seven. I mean, insane. At the April 13th box office. Insane. It crushed at the Woburn Blockbuster the next year.

They were like, geez, we made the money back for the budget just off of that. So I distinctly remember one of the movies that outgrossed Josie this weekend. I don't know if it was

in the top five, but I remember it had no hype going into it. Didn't open at number one, but still outperformed Josie, which is Kingdom Come. That opened at number six. That movie isn't bad.

I saw it. Not bad? In theaters. Not bad. It's a funny, you know, ensemble comedy, you know, okay so we have six and seven established give me let's go through number one at the box office but yeah kingdom come kingdom comes not bad all right so number one at the box office it's its third week at the box office so it's running the table last weekend my friends it

was number one at the box office the weekend before number one it was number one at the box office. The weekend before, it was number one at the box office. In its third week, it has grossed $68 million. I saw this movie in theaters. It's very funny. What's the final gross? The final gross is $112 million. It spawned three sequels.

It's comedy. Action comedy. Spy Kids. Also featuring Alan Cumming as a villain. What's his name? What's his name? What is his name? Right? Is it Floop?

That sounds right. I just remember the thumbkins. It's the F. I think his name's Floop. I'm looking it up. I'm looking it up. Vegan Floop. Thank you.

That's his name. I wasn't really disputing it, but. Great movie. Thank you. IMO, Robert. I wasn't really disputing it, but great movie. Thank you. IMO Robert Rodriguez. His best film. Spy Kids? Yeah. No. What's his best movie? From Dusk Till Dawn. No, it's called Spy Kids. No, it's definitely from Dusk Till Dawn. I'll tell you why.

Which is an amazing movie. I'll tell you why it's Spy Kids. Because Spy Kids doesn't force you to listen to Quentin Tarantino describe oral sex. Yes, well, that's a fair point. That immediately knocks points off of From Dusk Till Dawn. Fair point. Spy Kids 1 rules. Spy Kids 2 is pretty good.

Not bad. Buscemi... Buscemi's funny. He fucks in it. Plays Dr. Romero. He makes his little Harryhausen monsters. Spy Kids 3, I don't really remember. Spy Kids 3D Game Over? It's a perfect movie. Is it? Yeah, it's the one with Sly. It's a perfect movie. Is it?

Yeah, it's a perfect film. What's the fourth one? All the Time in the World. And was released in 4D. There was a scratch and sniff card. That one doesn't share characters. It's a new family of Spy Kids. It's Jessica Alba. No, no, no, no.

Alexa Vega and Daryl Sabar are in that movie. Appear briefly as elder statesmen. Yeah. But the main crux of the movie is Joel McHale and Jessica Alba and their two kids. One of whom has a hearing aid. Spy Kids rules.

Love Spy Kids. It's great. Also, I think it was just a genuine box office surprise. I don't think they saw that movie making 112. No, it was a big hit. And they even re-released it later with deleted scenes. They like a special i remember that yeah there was a shark sequence that they added back in sweet rom loved spy kids it's a great movie number two at the box office is a um i guess like a thriller mystery thriller based on popular series of books it's the second

in this series oh oh it's uh it has a very famously strange cgi opening sequence yes long came a spider with organ freeman and monica potter but at this point it's like that's in its third weekend right second second spy kids is in its third weekend everyone's like josie josie should be open runway these two films yeah nope remember the opening sequence of that? I've never seen that movie. Like the weird car crash. Very weird CGI in that scene. The only thing I know is that you don't cross Alex Cross.

Is that the tagline? Yes. It's the tagline of a later Alex Cross movie starring Tyler Perry. Yeah. But this is back when it was Morgan Freeman, baby. He had a franchise. Everyone's favorite film character, Alex Cross. He's cool.

Don't cross him. Don't cross him. Number three at the box office. I'm assuming you saw Spy Kids, maybe not in theaters, but you saw it. Oh, I remember.

Probably didn't see it long came a spider. Shiitake mushrooms. New film. New film. Point, point. Yeah.

It was, it would go on to be Oscar nominated, which is surprising for an April release. Uh-huh. Romantic comedy. Rated R. You know, based on a book. Oscar nominated which is surprising for an April release uh romantic comedy rated R you know based on a book

Bridget Jones I totally forgot that came out in April I thought that came out you know and then the next weekend it becomes number one it's a rare movie

that rises you're right the next weekend it drops 5% and everything else dropped more and the only thing that opened was Freddy Got Fingered

and Crocodile and Dust Dundee in Los Angeles. Like, Joseph and the Pusscats was supposed to have like a six week run. At number one. It had like, teen movies were big. Cartoon adaptations were big. Like, everyone's like, this is gonna fucking rule the charts.

Did you see Bridget Jones? No. No, not in theaters, but later in life. No, I've never seen Bridget Jones. Fair enough. I saw her in theaters. I saw her with my mom. I went to the premiere in London.

Shut the fuck up. In London. Literally shut the fuck up. That was very surprising when she got nominated, right? She snuck in there, but as strange as this sounds there was the note uh that the the prevailing feeling at the time was that she'd been snubbed for nurse betty the year before right so it was kind of like and also she'd been snubbed for james so it's sort of like uh ah we should probably you know squeeze her in there and she is good in that one yeah she's good yeah

she's good i mean they're fun movies hugh grant to me is like the the best part of the bridget jones uh movies it's the best part of any to me, is like the best part of the Bridget Jones movies. He's the best part of any movie. Is it Paddington? He's the best part of Paddington, too. He plays Phoenix Buchanan in the Bridget Jones trilogy. Pretty much. Number four is another new movie. It's a comedy.

Seems like a Ben movie. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I love when any description of a film is a Ben movie. Did you see this one in theaters? Definitely. Is this a in theaters? Definitely. Is this a Ben star? You weigh in on that, Ben.

I mean, he doesn't have a lot. You know what? I take it back. He's had some starring roles. He's an SNL alum. I'm not all in, but I like. Not all in. I'm not all in.

So you hear blank is in a movie. You're not like, I'm there. No. But you hear blank is in blank and you're like, yeah, I'm there. Okay, wait. So it's April of... Oh, I know what it is. What is it?

This is the most banned movie of all time. Yep. This is Joe Dirt? Yeah. Which outgrossed Josie and the Pussycats. In its first weekend? In all of its weekends. And its final total.

David Spade is Joe Dirt. I have never seen Joe Dirt. Joe Dirt Bike Benny. Ben just made a face at me. I mean, if I don't remember much, this was like a film that was on Comedy Central a lot. A dog's balls freeze to

some poor steps. There's something about a meteorite made out of shit. That's all I remember. It's something about a meteorite made out of shit. Yeah. That's all I remember. It's weirdly tragicomic at points. It's like a sort of Pilgrim's Progress type movie, right? He sort of goes on a journey.

Do you know what the superstructure of that movie is? Yes. No, I have no idea. Dennis Miller is like a fucking shock jock. Why not? Yeah, why not? Dennis Miller's a shock jock, and there's this janitor who they all fucking make fun of and he's and they decide to throw him on mike stern side stern style to like make fun of the weirdo and they're like so what's your fucking story where's this haircut come from and he tells this story that ends up being really tragic about his life oh weird he tells them this

weird picker-ass journey of how he got to the point where he was working in a janitor like the rise and fall of joe dirt and then it ends with like America glued to this radio program that ends on this note of like yeah and I lost my love, I lost my family, I lost everything. And Joe Dirt becomes like a folk hero. Hey guys, I know you're fans of podcasts

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sign up now you get the support you need to start your podcast today that's audioboom.com slash start thanks for spelling it out number five at the box office is a film I saw all of these in theaters except for Joe Dirk I saw all of these except for along came a spider and I didn't see Joe Dirk because I saw all of these except for A Long Came a Spider. And I didn't see Joe Dirk because if it came out in Britain,

it came and went. The whole SNL. It played in US theaters for at least six weeks. So when you got back home to New York, you would have been able to see it. I love how the new bit is I went on vacation to Britain.

Yeah. So the fifth film, I saw this in theaters. It's kind of an epic drama. Epic drama. But a period piece. It's sort of a cool movie. Cool movie. It's kind of crazy that this movie exists. 2001.

How do you describe this movie ben it's historical it's like a historical yeah but like you know recent-ish it's like 70s or whatever you know yeah this is another ben it's an anti-hero movie uh is it blow yes how the fuck do you do this i mean we're we're talking especially this run of years. Yeah, me too. What year did you get started in the box office game? I started tracking the box office when Toy Story came out because Toy Story is my favorite movie. So, 95. But when we get to like 99 to 2007, I'm so fucking in it.

And my dad and I have the ritual around like every Monday morning cracking open the paper. my dad and I have the ritual around like every Monday morning cracking open the paper and the other thing you have to remember is my dad would literally cover his hand over the 10 and have me guess in escalating order where films were so like the weekend this comes out

I'm training for you a podcast someday I mean essentially he was like wax on wax on and then you're like what's a podcast but like this weekend I was like Josie's number one we know Josie's number one. And you're not getting reports about Friday like we have now. No, I know, I know. It's more of a guessing game.

So it's like Monday morning, you have no idea what it's going to be, and he, like, goes through the top ten. It's like number ten, okay, whatever, eight. Someone like you. And then when Josie and the Pussycats is seven, I, like, lose my mind. Yeah. It did manage to beat out the second weekend of Pokemon 3. What's the subtitle of Pokemon 3?

The movie. Jesus Christ. I mean, I think in Japan, in Japan they have more elaborate subtitles that explain the plot of the movie, but in America, they would just reduce that to Pokemon the movie 2000. You know, like try and keep it.

Are you saying America makes films dumber for their audiences? Sure. Simplify it because we don't understand. The second one was released here as Pokemon 2000, the movie. Pokemon the movie 2000. Okay, and then the first one was called Pokemon the first movie? Yes, which felt like a threat. Because they knew they had already made five more of them.

Yes, whereas in Japan, it's called Pokemon Mewtwo Strikes Back. Right. Which, to be fair, would be a weird thing to release the first movie as in Japan it's called Pokemon Mewtwo Strikes Back which is to be fair would be a weird thing to release the first movie as because Mewtwo Strikes Back what do we do? And here is Pokemon Cole in the first movie but all of the advertising used Mew versus Mewtwo. Yes.

Also Pokemon the first movie is kind of two movies. The first 20 minutes are an entirely different movie. It's a short film about Pikachu like having some fun on the beach. A character everyone thought was named Pikaika blue that was the rumor because he looked like a blue pikachu um pikachu's vacation pokemon 2 pokemon the movie 2000 in japan is called pokemon uh revelation lucia which is pretty fucking cool the soundtrack for the pokemon movie is fucking nuts that had been said pokemon go fuck uh whereas pokemon 3 in america pokemon 3 colon the movie seems a little

uh hat in a hat there but okay uh is called pocket monsters the movie lord of the unknown tower which hello i want to meet that lord pokemon forever pokemon forever or pocket monsters the movie celeb celeb a timeless encounter guys there're so much better. And then Pokemon 5, I don't think that one even came out in America. That was when it was now just like a... I think that's when Miramax starts releasing them in like limited. Yeah.

Like VHS. Sort of like Fathom Events style. Sort of one day only. Yes. And you get like a free card. I saw Pokemon 1 and 2 in theaters. I didn't see 3. I one time went up to my friends

who were playing with their dumb cards. Oh yeah, you sound like one of the people who were mean to me when I was a teen. I took my arm and I threw them all off the table. You sound like one of those kids that when I was a kid, I was like, he has a real attitude problem. Hell yeah. Were you still chubby at this

stage? Yep. Were you full of rage? Yeah. Then just walking by with this tuba like okay was it a tuba am i getting that wrong and trumpet yes it was a tuba you nailed him to the fucking wall it was a tuba they gave me the savage dunk and and i remember my music teacher was like you should play the tuba because you can uh you can you can hold on to it. And I remember in my mind being like, because you're fat. She was saying you could

wear it like a belt. That's what she was saying, that you wouldn't have to hold it. It fits you. It's like an inner tube. Yep. An inner tuba. Oh, I got another merchandise by Light. David's going to hate it. Honestly, I don't care. I'm weirdly zen right now.

There was a company that made a line of dolls merchandise by like David's gonna hate it they're they honestly I don't care I'm weirdly zen right now okay uh there was there was a company that made a line of dolls they did them for two movies and then gave up uh the first was Charlie's Angels

sure the second was Josie and the Pussycats oh how did I I don't know where they tried to apply two weird types of technology uh oh

that were kind of primitive uh huh uh there's a company called Jax who mostly then did WWF shit do this fast yeah two weird types of technology that were kind of primitive. There's a company called Jax who mostly then did WWF shit. Do this fast. Yeah. I'm already losing patience. It's amazing. One, they were like,

you said you were weirdly zen. I know, not anymore. Half a minute later. All right, hurry up with that shit. One, they were like, sculptors, ha, who needs them?

We're going to scan them digitally. Which now is common practice, but at the time made them look really creepy. Right. Should I find these? Jack's Charlie's Angels? Or Jack's Josie and the Pussycats would be more relevant. The second thing was, they made them where they had internal skeletons and then covered them in rubber.

Ew! So that you couldn't see the joints but they could move. How do you spell Jax? J-A-K-K-S. So A, they bent weird. So they were Westworld. Yeah, they were like Westworld animatrons.

Right? Oh, I don't like it at all. It's going to be a very upsetting merchandise spotlight. Right. Their bodies were mushy and then also the rubber would deteriorate over time. So they'd look like Terminators. I don't know. They're very strange. Anyway, I'm going to buy a set of them on eBay.

They look creepy. All right. Yeah, that's enough. They're creepy. Go look up the creepy Joes in the Pussycat Stall. And hey, maybe we'll post a picture on the Instagram. Another Catalyst account run by Ams that you should all follow. That's right. I do the tweets. the creepy joes in the pussycat stall and hey maybe we'll post a picture on the Instagram another catalyst account run by Ang

that you should all follow that's right I do the tweets I do the Instagram I do the Facebook maybe not as much I don't go nuts on Reddit

I just want to say that we already got sentimental Ang is the best and we also should officially say

here at the end of this episode that Ang's title is Associate Purdue-er. Hell yeah. True. Associate Purdue-er, Ang. Am I a Purdue-er? Perhaps Ang will graduate to certain nicknames such as... Angliance with a dollar sign? Say Angie.

This is cold, guys. This is off the dome. Wow. Strange days. Hey. Pretty good. That works. And choose your favorite. What's your favorite miniseries? That's tough.

Can I say my least favorite? Say your least favorite. Some of my favorite episodes. I mean can I say my least I don't know say your least favorite I will okay well some of my favorite episodes I do love War Horse I've never seen it gotta fuck that horse Lincoln

Lincoln was fun that's I think one of our funniest steps I think because I cried when Ben said something about like these like

major men in history like wiped their butts with their hands yeah I mean they didn't have and then like signed the declaration of independence or whatever stinky butts no butt wipe yeah in history wiped their butts with their hands. They didn't have television. And then signed the Declaration of Independence or whatever.

Stinky butts, no butt wipe. An astute point I did not see when Lincoln came out. Are you saying Spielberg's your least favorite miniseries? I was such a slog because he's no fun. You had some good episodes. I have a friend named Tintin who would disagree with you.

That's fair. A nose for a good story and an ear for adventure. I have a friend named Tintin who would disagree with you. That's fair. Knows for a good story and an ear for adventure. I think fun episodes, but I think if we're talking arc of where is this director going and things like that, it was just like, wow, he was very successful and he continued being very successful. We all know where he was going. He always made a lot of money. He was going into the Oasis. Can't wait to record that episode.

Oh, boy. That episode's going to be full of Easter eggs. You think there's a lot of references? Should we also announce the next miniseries? Or do we do that? Oh! Can I do it? Yeah.

Go ahead. I'm just trying to remember where we are in the timeline. Yes. James L. Brooks is all wrapped up. You crazy person. Put a bow on that. And now, Andrew, do you like to announce the following miniseries

next miniseries I hope I don't have to check my phone is One Brad Bird that's right we're taking flight with the bird taken to the sky we've recorded all of those episodes already

they're fucking hilarious except for Incredibles 2 which which is what you guys timed out for. Except for Incredibles 2, which is of course the peg for Brad. We've wanted to do him from the beginning. The peg? Okay, I guess that's what it meant there. It's a journalism term. I was a journalism major.

I get it. My mother asks me all the time, what's the peg? Wait a second, but how would you know journalism terms if you grew up in the United States of America? That's a good question. They don't teach you shit here. Yeah, we're doing bratty in a

miniseries we like to call the podcastables. That's what we're calling it, right? Yeah, that was the best we got. Yeah, sure. Get ready for tomorrow and takes. Not tomorrow, in the coming weeks. That's a great episode. You should also know that the Iron Giant episode we repeatedly in during while recording it

called it the worst episode we've ever done. Oh, no. I think it's a masterpiece. No, it's so good. It's like a great app. Right? I mean, you are who you choose to be. The podcast is what you choose to cast.

Yep. We do to the Iron Giant. Point for point. Thank you. What pod yep we do to the Iron Giant point for point thank you what Ready Player One did to the Iron Giant which is oh yeah desecrated

have a bunch of guns yeah we haven't seen Ready Player One yet either and shoot things up did they bring Vin back for Ready Player One I don't know is his shirt off

is the question well that's the thing I like about the Iron Giant is that dude never fucking wears a shirt because it's a goddamn Vin Diesel movie yep ladies and gentlemen thank you so much for listening oh wait can I give a quick shout out the thing I like about the Iron Giant is that dude never fucking wears a shirt because it's a goddamn Vin Diesel movie. Yep.

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for listening. Oh wait, can I give a quick shout out? To anyone. There were like three blankies who said their birthdays were today. What? The day that this comes out? Today, May 7th. Okay. Yep. So I just want to wish a happy birthday to Steven Roth. Hells yeah.

Who's excited to hear this episode. The great Steven Roth. Yep. Mike Lewis. The great Mike Lewis. And Aaron episode. The great Stephen Roth. Yep, Mike Lewis. The great Mike Lewis. And Aaron Reid. The great Aaron Reid. Happy birthday, guys. And you're so on top of social media that you know the blankie birthdays. They tweeted at the show, and I was like, yeah.

That's amazing. I don't even know my mom's birthday. I don't know my birthday. Remember to rate and subscribe. Right, that's the height not the joke yeah you should have come a little faster on the queue

we set you up for that one greatest producer of all time Ben's the greatest producer of all time he's totally jerking his outfits are amazing

yeah I love them they're just so impressive yeah I can't believe he was so I wish I could be like Ben hey hey

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just straight up say it just straight up say it because I'm real we're never gonna have subliminal message it or just straight up say it just straight up say it because I'm real we're never gonna have subliminal messages Angie's real prick people

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i wanted to mention that this coming friday may 11th at 9 30 is a performance of a sketch comedy show i wrote and i would love love to have blankies come out and support it's called vapor 2099 and it's a science fiction themed sketch comedy show set in a dystopian cyberpunk future so think 2001 a space odyssey but with flying drones floating 3d cones tons of vaping and of of course, vaporwave music. I mean, come on. The cast features performers who regularly can be seen in NYC at venues like UCB, Union Hall, and have credits that include Adult Swim, IFC, Conan on TBS, Funny or Die, The Chris Gethard Show on TruTV, and more. It will be performed at Brick Theater in Williamsburg, Brooklyn.

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