Blank Check with Griffin & David - The Eighth Annual Blank Check Awards with Joe Reid

Episode Date: March 5, 2023

Once again we gather together to celebrate excellence in the motion picture industry - but rest assured, we have our own Blankies Crisis Team standing by to avoid any catastrophes after last year! Joe Reid of “This Had Oscar Buzz” joins us for our eighth ceremony, and we shine a spotlight on all the best performances, wettest films, and putteringest murmurs of 2022. Plus - a very special top ten list from a surprise guest. Join our Patreon at patreon.com/blankcheck Follow us @blankcheckpod on Twitter and Instagram! Buy some real nerdy merch at shopblankcheckpod.myshopify.com or at teepublic.com/stores/blank-check

Live from our studio in downtown Brooklyn, it's the sixth... Fuck. Eighth. Live from our studio in downtown Brooklyn, it's the eighth Annual Blank Check Awards. I'm Marie Barty, and I'll be doing some red carpet coverage for tonight's event. Oh, I see David Sims with a box of pizza from Little Caesars. Pizza, pizza. Joe Reed from This Had Oscar Buzz is here as well with a tote bag that is emblazoned with Kate Hudson's face. Ben Hosley is here, flanked by Piacon the Whale and also the whale from The Whale. People are amazing.

And Griffin Newman coming in just now right under the wire with a bagel. Hey, Griff. Bagel, bagel. Joining us from our memorabilia shelf, we have the baby from Who Framed Roger Rabbit. My stogie! A Lego man made out of bones with chains. An envelope. Oh, the envelope from J with chains. An envelope. Oh, the envelope from J.D. Amato.

Beta cock movement. Okay. Someone made a... What the fuck is this? Like an embroidered thing of a tweet of Griffin saying, at David L. Sims Watto, though, complete with the amount of retweets and likes. There you go.

As you can see, all the stars are out tonight. Oh, the lights are dimming. That's our cue. The show's about to start. Ladies, gentlemen, and gentlefolk, it's Griffin Newman. Hello, everybody. Welcome to the eighth annual Blankies. Jesus. Look, we have to start with the somber tongue. This is serious.

I believe this is the eighth annual Blankies. I know we often start with a sense of... No, it's the eighth annual blankie. It is. Okay, it's the eighth. I said eighth. I know. No, we often start with a sense of frivolity. Jokes and laughs.

Right. Music and mirth. Mm-hmm. Some clever little song parodies incorporating the titles of this year's finest films. Certainly. But we need to set a clear tone at the beginning of this night. Okay. Of course, we all know

the scandal that happened last year during the Blankets. What happened? Checky bounced on stage. Chris Rock was presenting an award. Was he? He was. Chris Rock was presenting an award. You don't remember this?

Usually our presenters are past winners And no offense to Mr. Rock, who I like But he hasn't come near an acting award for me Not acting Okay What about, uh What about, uh, what? Best deadline press release for Spiral

That would be the closest award Okay, I'll take that He was, of course, presenting the award for best new press release. Right. Right. We always do that. Remember how we always do that category of funniest deadline story? Yeah, we've been doing it, I mean,

this will be the eighth year. Right, so past We have to edit it out just because, you know, we have to bridge the show. Of course. There you go. We for years have been... There's a lot of awards you guys don't see. They're not televised. ABC is cracking the web. Yes, absolutely.

This is an eight-hour show. Anyway, Chucky bounced on stage, and he bounced on Chris Rock, so I don't know what to tell you, but we do have... We have Blankie Police now. Yeah. We have the Blankie Patrol.

I don't know. Hi, everyone. Welcome to the original Blankies. No, no, no, keep going. I was going to make a joke like that. Yeah, what do they do? Look, okay, look. Welcome to the Intimidate Blankies. I was going to make a joke like that. Yeah, what do they do? Look, okay, look.

Can I just say something? Say something. Because you obviously haven't gotten a Blankies song, which is fine. I haven't. People are making fun of the Oscar Corps

or whatever these guys are. The Oscar Brigade. Yeah. The guys who are here to deal with any crisis. Yeah. And they're like, what are they going to do?

Tackle Will Smith? The problem was the half hour. Yes. That's what they're like what are you what are they gonna do tackle will smith the problem was the half hour yes that's who they're that's what they're for that's the problem if shit happens then they like come on stage or would they do something we've already done this right in the different episodes that is coming out later oh wow yeah to jump around in time it came out today is it in the march madness it did great. I just think it's been too long since the Blankie Awards had a host. I think this is a problem. Yeah. What if we got a host?

What if we paid out? Wow. Who's the... Like, go to, like, a booking site. Oh, we just got, like, a professional MC who does, like, bar mitzvahs. Right. I'm like, who is within our price range? Yeah, that's right.

Who's fallen into our range? I want a name. I want a name. Sure, of course. But I'm like, who is within our price range? Yeah, that's right. Who's fallen into our range? I want a name. I want a name. Sure, of course. But I'm like, who does corporate gigs? Right. Maybe he has hosted a down-market award show at some point in the past. Yeah, David, can you pull up a list of a Blockbuster Entertainment Award host or a Cable Ace host? I feel like Dennis Miller hosted those VMAs for a while there. I don't want to touch old Denny.

I don't want a touch old Denny. I don't want a Dennis Miller. Drew Carey. Could we get Drew Carey? How much does Drew Carey cost? That's true, yeah. Wait, what about Carlton from Fresh Prince of Bel-Air? Wow, that's a swing. I think he'd do it.

He seems to, he'll show up at the opening for an envelope. Drew Carey makes $20 million a year. But that's Price is Right. Cut that in 365, right? That in 365 right we just want you for one day and not even 24 hours in a day so like cut that even further down yeah but you know let's okay so that's well that's still 55 000 it's a lot of money that's a lot of money all right blankies this is where we're calling out for your help all right this is what we need 55 000 brian styles i mean let's go through the castle feel mean where we're calling out for your help. All right. This is what we need. $55,000. Ryan Stiles.

I mean, let's go through the cast of Drew Carey. It's starting to feel mean where we're basically like kind of shooting at the middle of the board and then we're like, all right, lower, lower. The problem with Ryan Stiles is you can't have Stiles without mockery. So you got to get the both of them and then you're paying two people. No, what I was saying is. Oh, now we get Stiles without mockery. Let's make a mockery of that. Are you just sort of thinking of Drew Carey show characters at this point?

Yeah, right. David, transparently. What about the lady? What was her name? Mimi. Krista Miller. Oh, Mimi? We could get Mimi. Krista Miller feels like she's busy, but maybe Mimi's around? Yeah, well, Krista Miller's swimming in that Ted Lasso. Yeah, I was gonna say. Yeah, I'm doing a backstroke through those soccer millions.

What's the actress's name? Kathy Kinney. Kathy Kinney. There you go. Kathy Kinney. Yeah, let's get Kathy Kinney. Kathy Kinney, ninth annual blankies. stroke through those soccer millions yeah what what's the actress's name kathy kathy kinney there you go kathy kinney yeah let's get kathy kinney kathy kinney ninth annual blankies let's go 68 years old she's a spring chicken yeah let's get her anyway hi welcome eighth annual blankies uh my name is griffin newman uh my name is david sims oh my name is uh jo, Reading Rain Joe. I was waiting for the Reading Rain Joe intro, Griffin. Let's anoint it now. Yeah. We do have to become the de facto Wanda Sykes, Amy Schumer.

That's true. That's true. Yes. And Regina Hall. Dibs on Regina Hall. Sorry, guys. Dibs on Regina Hall. No, no, that's fine.

Okay. I guess I'm Wanda? You're Amy. Am I? You're too horny. You're Amy. I'm Wanda? You're Amy. Am I? You're too horny. You're Amy. I'm Wanda. And I'm a parent.

Amy's like, you know, very parent mode now. It's true. Wanda's grumpy. Sure. Yeah. This is usually a podcast called Blank Check with Griffin and David. In fact, it is still that podcast. Yeah, we didn't change the name for the episode.

No. But this podcast is usually about filmographies, directors who have massive success early on in their careers, and are given a series of blank checks to make whatever crazy passion products they want. And then once a year, we hand the checkbook to ourselves. And rather than writing a check with an amount of money on it, we write our picks for the best in film of the previous year. I just found out who was the host of the first Blockbuster Entertainment Awards. Oh, boy. It was a double act. And it wasn you know what year and lewis it was uh 1994 double

act snl people no no kid and play that would be good yes that's a good guess no um cindy crawford and william bald. That's right. Billy was hosting before Alec ever got a shot. Wait, what was that movie that they were clearly promoting? Fair Game? Is that what it was called? William Baldwin, Cindy Crawford, action adventure? Yes, you are correct.

Wow. You are correct. Fair Game. Apparently, the music and video industry turned out in full force for the event, according to Wikipedia.org. Okay. The music video industry, not the film industry? It industry not the film it's a music and video music because it's blockbuster so it's you know the the video cassette industry the vhs industry was out yeah kind of in their final throes tops and tails as the 90s were going along the second ceremony hosted by mr kelsey grammar hey this

revolution himself yeah uh the thirds looks like they dropped the host. Big mistake. Yeah. Huge. The fourth also hostless. The fifth, there's a note here that Harry Connick Jr. described his nomination for best actor for the film Hope Floats

as quote, absolutely insane. Okay. Well. Yeah. Not gonna argue with the man. No. Yeah. By the sixth awards, they had added a video games section.

Imagine if the Oscars did that. Yeah. That'd be fun. Yeah. And then the seventh and final awards were held in April 2001. And I guess literally 9-11 wrapped it up. Wow. Oh, is that why they ended it?

Yes. I'm not joking. Yes. Yes. I did some fucking sidebar on Blockbuster Entertainment Awards for some reason. It's much like the Emmys, which also were sort of delayed by 9-11 in some weird way. Yeah. And of course, the New York City mayoral primary.

Do they still do the Nickelodeon Awards? They do, right? Oh, yeah. They definitely still do those. I'll say that. I had the experience recently walking through Times Square, humble brag. You're humble bragging walking through Times Square. It's a joke.

There's a Krispy Kreme right there, David. Even as a joke? That's pretty bragging. Did you get a picture with Dora? No. Listen. Power Ranger? I walked by this billboard for the 2023 Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards.

Nice. And I think, thank you, Humblebrag, and I think for the first time in my life, I had no idea who the two fucking hosts were. Oh, you didn't even know the hosts, right?

No idea. That makes me sad. It was like this. Does it? Do you need to know? Time is moving. Can I throw out names of hosts in the last

several years? Chance the Rapper. Sure. John Cena. Heard of him. Mark Wahlberg. Heard of John Cena Mark Wahlberg Mark Wahlberg Mark Wahlberg

Mark Wahlberg said women are talking Women are talking at the Cycle Awards Instead of women talking Makes it sound like a warning Yes I just found out who the hosts are Tell me One is Nate Burleson

There's no way you would know Nate Burleson. I know Nate Burleson. He's from the world of sports. Okay. The other is. What sport? Football. Esports.

What team? What team did he play for? For the Vikings for a while. The Vikings and the Seahawks. He's more famous as like a football talking. He's a good, like he's a good. Yeah. Studio.

Is he a former player? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Hasn't been a player for 10 Yeah. His whole thing was he did the color commentary when Nickelodeon broadcast the NFL football playoffs. That makes sense to me. Okay, I get it now. He's in house.

Now, the other one is one of those people where I don't know who they are, but I know her name because I know she's famous with the youth. Charlie D'Amelio. She's like a TikToker. She's a TikTok star. She's the number one tiktok yeah so i am aware and was also i think on like dancing with the stars this past year so like

she's enough of a cross okay but obviously there's no way i would i could pick her out of a lineup no no i think i i might have uh been i physically i have no idea what she looks apparently she won uh a 2022 nickelodeon Kids' Choice Award. That makes sense. Here she is accepting her award. But give me like the last 10 hosts. Oh, of course. Let's see.

Last year was Miranda Cosgrove, iCarly herself. Sure, sure. And Rob Gronkowski. Now, have you heard of him? I have because he was on Shark Tank. There you go. The Gronk bottle. Year before that, Kenaker was before that keenan

thompson a legend yes a blimp legend truly yeah how many blimps does that guy have a billion a lot of keen room full of blimps he's inside each blimp driving uh number four that victoria justice former co-star former co-star of mine we share a birthday before that and uh apparently he went on a very sad rant about a cunnilingus, DJ Khaled. Oh, dear. I doubt he did that. This is what I'm saying. All these people.

John Cena. I'm going to keep going. Humiliated. Blake Shelton. Yes. Nick Jonas. Mark Wahlberg. Right.

Josh Duhamel. Blake Shelton hosting the Kids' Choice Awards. I love kids. Feels like, I had imagined those kids there who like, kids, you're going to get like up close and personal. You're going to meet the host today. It's going to be great. And it's like, it's Blake Shelton.

And they just all start crying or whatever. Like, what happened? Let's not look past Josh Duhamel. I think the Blake Shelton kids are so excited that they weren't there for the Josh Duhamel year. Wow. Yeah, Josh Duhamel. I'm sure he tore up the stage. That guy is so fucking funny.

Obviously, Rosie O'Donnell is the sort of like Billy Crystal. Sure. And Whitney Houston was sort of the Bob Hope. Whitney Houston did a few. Jack Black has hosted, it looks like, three times. Okay. That fits. So he's sort of the Ellen, the Steve Martin. Steve Martin, sure.

Carson. Carson actually did a few. I think Whitney Houston was the Carson. Oh, you said Whitney Houston. I'm sorry. I thought you were saying that Carson hosted a few. I think Whitney Houston was the Carson. Oh, you said Whitney Houston was the Carson. I'm sorry. I thought you were saying that Carson hosted a few of the early Kids' Choice Awards, which would have really blown my mind. I wish. How about these Rugrats? I don't know. I had nothing. I didn't come up with a song.

I sit down at the desk. We do the fucking level check. David says, I can't wait to hear what you've got. And I realized in that moment for the first time that I was supposed to come up. The cold stab of recognition. I know. And I had to just let them leave. And I want to be very clear.

My apologies to the chain smokers. I'm sorry we don't have any use for you today. That money could have gone towards the $55,'re gonna pay kathy kinney to host i know i know yeah listen here we go the blankies i feel like the longer this show's gone on the more you almost view this show david as like an annoyance that you have to re-litigate your picks three months after locking your lists and publishing i mean i have published a list there's no doubt about that. But the full categories, obviously.

The spreadsheet. You don't show. Sure, the spreadsheet. The spreadsheet. The spreadsheet. It's not about just the one category. Of course. We have the full spread of options.

Let me summon up, of course, blanky winners from our Reddit, from our Discord. Oh, yes. You have them ready to go? Yeah, I can get them okay uh do we want to start with the uh the supporting categories as is tradition i guess so joe yeah is there anything you want to say about the state of cinema i mean i like it before we like cinema i would like it to continue we all want it to continue i'd hate to see it go what if i came armed with like a half an hour rant about like theatrical distribution wouldn't that be like a but like coming out against it that'd be a bummer that'd be bad have you guys if you just joined the show and we were

like you twerps talking about theaters they're boring get with the times watch a movie on peacock yeah no um that is weirdly their slogan and it's very aggressive. Watch a movie on TV. What's the matter? I just like a streaming server saying, give up. Watch us. Essentially, we're your last resort. What are you going to do? Leave your house? You guys haven't watched Tracy Zooms In yet, have you? The new Dick Tracy special? Oh, no, I have not.

Copyright extension special. It does sound like a Tracy Ullman special. Tracy takes on Dick Tracy. Not only did I not watch it yet, I didn't realize this was a thing. Oh, it's incredible. I didn't realize like the whole story around it. Yeah, spoiler alert.

It will sweep my ballot next year. I consider it a film. I've logged it on Letterboxd. But there is a moment where Warren Beatty in character as Dick Tracy, who Warren Beatty is 85. They play Dick Tracy as if he is 130 years old that he is the age he is right he is a long-running character they talk to him they're like so you're

130 how do you look so good pomegranates lots of pomegranates wow he goes on this long rant when like warren baity is claiming that he wants to do something new with the rights to dick tracy dick tracy the character in this special is kind of like give it up warren that's clever yeah yeah yeah and dick tracy the character goes on this long rant about basically like accepting that generations view movies differently than we do and he's just like that's great they want to they think of it like a book they want to watch one chapter at a time split it up over seven nights pause it go get dinner come back that is a very boomer take on streaming it's like it's like a book it's like well it's not really like but he starts the spiel and you're like dick tracy the kind of like the ultimate fascist

in the way that baby plays him on these specials. Sure. You think he's going on a kids these days tirade, and he's basically imploring Warren Beatty to let go of his concept. Wow. His old ways. It's a lot of tension in that. Yeah. You know, what's interesting about all of that

is that Dick Tracy was basically out of step when it was released. Correct. The film, right? Like, it was already kind of like, nah, Batman is the thing, and was already kind of like, nah, Batman is the thing, and you're kind of a little too classy and adult.

That movie is coming, like, what, two, three years after Dragnet, where the whole point is, like, to put this guy in a modern context would be absurd. Would be insane. Right, right, right. So it's funny that, like, only now is he like, you know what, maybe Dick Tracy just isn't for the kids anymore.

But I love you, Warren. I love Warren. I mean, he's 85 years old. He's not going to make another real movie. Well, one of the things in the special is he kind of throws out every possible idea of what he could do with the rights. And he's like, I don't know. Maybe I hire a younger actor. Maybe someone else directs it and I just produce.

Maybe it's a TV show. Maybe it's gritty. Maybe it's a TV show. Maybe it's gritty. Maybe it's a cartoon. All ideas. Right. Probably better ideas than Dick Tracy on Zoom. He basically surrenders

the idea of, I will write, direct, produce, and star in a new Dick Tracy feature film that is a direct sequel to my film

from 33 years ago. He's now like, who knows what it is. But he certainly will be keeping those rights. I was going to say, I want him to take those rights to the grave.

Yes, me too. Those are going into the ground. Yes. And then, what happens, I wonder? That's the real question. Can he leave them to his daughter? I hope so.

Or, you know, how does that work? I hope Annette Bening gets to play Dick Tracy. Yeah, that'd be great. Woodwatch. She'd be good. 100% Woodwatch.

Best Supporting Actor. Best Supporting Actor. Best Supporting Actor. Okay, Best Supporting Actor. Okay, yes. We're going to do our blankie awards. It's time to do them now. Yes. You know what, Joe?

I don't know what your picks are going to be. Not that that's a nice fun mystery. But yeah, I don't really know where you fall on some of the big movies of the year. Can I also say before we begin thoroughly how much I'm enjoying the Daniel Boyle miniseries that's going on right now. Come on, get out of here. And in particular, the

newly liberated David Sims being able to speak freely about his homeland. He's glowing. That first, that first episode, I think it was like 10 minutes in, you were talking about like the British educational system and like chat show

hosts. And I think you like called someone a cunt at one point. I was just like, Oh, it's all, it's all coming out. It's really fantastic. Very English of me.

If I've been doing that. Yeah. It was a whole thing. It was great. Yes. Uh, I got a phone call recently from another blank check guests out of the blue while I was walking home. Yeah. And he was just like, I'm in the car recently From another Blank Check guest Out of the blue while I was walking home

And he was just like, I'm in the car I'm listening to X episode It's very nice that you're not doing the bit anymore It is nice It's a whole new era I feel like we recorded an episode recently though Where a guest was genuinely unaware That David was from England

And David tensed up It happened recently. And I had to step in between and go like, you have to understand there's a history. It's a whole thing. It's okay that you don't know. That's happened to me in real life too. Someone's approached me.

No, I'm going to sound fucking so ridiculous now if I tell this story. Do it. I was having dinner with two of my friends at a lovely Fort Greene eatery. You've got to tell the story because we don't have a monologue. We don't have an opening song.

No opening. Kimmel just comes out and he's like, what's up? I forgot to write a monologue. I was having dinner with... Someone came up to me at dinner the other day.

Ladies and gentlemen, David Sims presenting the story. What if he brings you on stage at the Kodak Theater? So I host the podcast and there's like a bit about... I grew up in England. None of you know that.

I do have to occasionally do that when I'm interviewing English people where I sort of have to do like a little preamble of like, I'm sort of aware of some of these things because I grew up in England. Oh, sure. Did you? Anyway, no. Someone approached me at dinner and said, are you David Sims? Which is embarrassing.

Yes. And my friend started laughing at me. Of course. Because they should. Yep. And I said, I am. And he says, oh, that's, you know, I like your work.

And I was like, oh, thank you. Thank you. And we talked for two seconds and somehow England comes up. Amazing. It's probably my fault. I can't remember how. And he said, where did you grow up?

No, it wasn't. England didn't even come up. He just said, where did you grow up? And my friends started laughing more. Of course. And I went kind of like all right all right he's like what and i was like you know like the bit and he's like what and i was like my podcast and he's like oh i don't listen to your podcast i like your film writing oh fantastic

i work at paramount oh and i was like oh and then i felt like yes yes yeah yeah and he was like what i don't what's your podcast and And I was like, forget it. Get out of here. What is a podcast? Yeah, good question. Okay. This is supposedly a podcast. All right.

It is. Best supporting actor. Right. I'll say I was surprised by my own picks. I feel like... You surprised yourself? A little bit. I usually do a lot more in real time throughout the year updating.

As I think you guys do. And instead this time you just kind of sit down and... This year I was a little loose with it, and occasionally something would pin enough that I would put it down, but I wasn't like, I'll have a default five. And then when I see a new performance I like, I'm knocking that out of the five. Yeah, I get that. Right? And so I had a list that was like semi-settled a couple months ago and then i hadn't looked at it in a little bit and i was like has anything new popped up and there was very little shifting from from how i felt i don't know that's good i'm surprised

with how some of these things trick up we'll see you go ahead okay now i want to hear yeah my nominees wow for best actor in a Supporting Role. Anthony Hopkins. Sir Anthony Hopkins for Armageddon Time. Sure. Big T. Raul Castillo for The Inspection. Nice.

So hot. Is this hottest of the year? Maybe. Get ready for this next one. Matthew Mayer, Funny Pages. Nice. Paul Dano for The Bad Man. Oh.

Sure, you love that performance. I do. You're very fond of it. And fifth nominee, Javier Bardem for Lyle Lyle Crocodile. A movie I watched on an airplane a few weeks ago. A crocodile propagandist.

Same. It's a good performance. It is. David, it's a good performance. I have no doubt. An unreal performance. With full respect to Katie Rich, who has been banging this drum that's true all season she deserves the shout she's been publicized punching the air i was sitting on an airplane with my arms crossed

but jesus christ he he attacks this role with the same intensity of austin butler and elvis of like this is my yes this is the one this is the one i've been is he doing the voice he he has not dropped this character yeah harvey arbart i'm still does that voice yes the thing about lila crocodile is this is a first of all it's songs by uh bench pasick and just crazy about this movie well no this this is what i'm gonna say is this is a movie right that's not a selling point no great no this is this is a movie that absolutely has songs that were 100%, I'm certain, cut from The Greatest Showman and maybe Dear Evan Hansen. It's their whatever. What trash you have lying around, guys.

I'm not a big Pacek and Paul fan to begin with. And I'm not really excited about hearing Pacek and Paul be songs. As is their somewhat tradition, at least for me, they have one good song. And in this movie, they know they have one good song. And you know it because they play it five different times. They reprise that song

so often. That is their move, though, where they're like, okay, well, you know, we got a bunch of shit for you, but don't worry. Here's the one good one. We'll have one hook.

We'll have one thing we actually can make an effort on. He somehow makes this character feel morally complicated when I think it is actually just sloppy writing. Yeah, probably. But he, like, makes it into a choice.

Anyway, you guys run off your five and then we can spotlight it. Or should I talk through my other guys? No, no, no. Right? How do we do this? Yeah, I think once we all give ours, then we talk about our other guys. I'm annoyed because I also have Matthew Mayer and Funny Pages. I thought that was a clever nom.

No, it's an incredible performance. It's just a good nom because I love that performance. I also have Anthony Hopkins and Armageddon Time. Wow. Well, he's amazing at it. Yeah, no, no. And then you also have Javier Bardem for La La Corte. And then I have K.U. Kwan for Everything Everywhere All at Once.

Sure. I have Justin Long for Barbarian. Right on the outside for me. And I have Justin Long for Barbarian. Right on the outside for me. And I have Andrew Scott for Catherine called Birdie. That's a good pick. Absolutely transformative

performance. He's wonderful in that. Those are my nominees. Sure, read. Reading or show? So, the thing

that you did last year, Griffin, where you sort of explicitly said, all my nominees are going to be not Oscar nominees. That was two years ago.

That was 2020. That was the pandemic year where I... You had just not watched a lot of the sort of big hitters. I was depressed about not being able to see movies in theaters. It intrigued me as a philosophical exercise, though, because by this point in the year, we've talked about the Oscar nominees a lot. I've certainly written about the Oscar nominees a lot. And it is interesting to me to sort of step outside there and i imagine we'll talk about some of these other people in the near misses category but i i also have uh most of my lists are are uh non-oscars one of my 20 acting nominees is nominated for an oscar all right yeah i think i did not do that consciously yeah well you could

you come you come about it i, probably more naturally than me. But this is a fun exercise. But I always think about what you say, which is like, you want to fight for your guys. And here we come in. It's like our time to spotlight people. It's less fun to nominate the people who are already getting lauded. Even if I like those performances. I saw Everything Everywhere All at Once in April.

And I walked out of that thing being like, wow, in a perfect world, Kee Kee Kwan is going to get an Oscar nomination. It'll never happen, but what a great world that would be. He's going on my blankies ballot or whatever, and now it's like steamrolling towards an Oscar. Right, and there's nothing exciting about picking him even though it's a phenomenal performance. I'm going to be very happy for him to have an Oscar. Yeah, he doesn't need me. No. All right, so my nominees then, all non-oscar nominees in this category anthony hopkins and

armageddon time oh three to three bagger it is an undefeated incredible he's really really good in it uh edward norton in glass onion oh okay uh tim roth in. Tim Roth. Also on the bubble for me. Francisco Rubio in Bardo. Wow. And Steven Yeun in Nope. Another bubbler. I love him. So good.

What's Bardo? The talk show host in Bardo. Oh, yes. You're making the what's Bardo joke. I've never heard of that movie. Bardo's a movie that I expected I was going to loathe, and I actually ended up liking it about halfway, which was way better than I thought I was going to.

Absolutely. And this guy's performance is like, of the highlights, he's really good. He's quite good. Now, I'll do the blankie nominees when we do the other category, because they do 10. The Oscar nominees are what? Kei Kwan.

Who else? Why can I remember? Brendan Cleason. Brian Tyree Henry. Barry Keegan. Barry Keegan. And who's the fifth one? Judd Hirsch.

Judd Hirsch. Oh, yes. Judd Hirsch. Honestly, a terrific set of nominations. Another one where I... You were at the fableman's premiere in toronto david right same as me and the second hersh's character exits this movie spontaneous round of applause from the audience and i was just like well he's getting the oscar

nomination and then it seemed for a while then he maybe wasn't a bubble and then all of a sudden he comes roaring back and i was like see i knew it yeah i thought dana was gonna get it i thought uh and i'll say look dano uh i i previously argued I thought he was a lead for the movie. Upon seeing Fableman's a second time, I felt less strongly about that opinion. But I also, as much as I think he's phenomenal in Fableman. He's very good. He serves the movie just as it needs it. Incredibly well.

I just think the Batman performance is being a little undersung. Dano hadn't been in a movie in like four years is that true? he basically well he made a movie he made a film right

but I think this year was his first time on screen in like four years right and such an incredible pair of performances that are at complete opposite sides

from a guy who is so specific in his look in his temperament in his vibe to be able to apply himself in such radically different ways yeah and i also just think like we're we're living in a post-quantum mania world right and david your complaint about the jonathan majors performance as king which i

think is incredibly valid is this guy is feeling the weight of i need to show you all how serious a threat i am that i can justify being the big bad of the next 10 whatever it is right and i just was sitting there the whole time going like remember when these used to be the fun parts of these movies you get excited to see some character actor you know eat a little i will say hey wasn't that the thing with brolin too that brolin got progressively less boring as as well the thing was thing but but also he got less boring but also his whole take was i'm gonna play this really real and grounded which i think fucked people up a little bit because it worked for him yeah almost in spite of itself it was the opposite with him where you know thanos is just a tennis ball when

he's introduced right brolin is then like cast in the role and he has like three cameos where he's like i am thanos now i'll do the thing that i'm going to do right and then in infinity war you're like oh this is this is not like what we've seen of him so far this is now this like performance that's being given yeah whereas this now has the weight of that hanging over its head and so he has to be like get ready folks yeah you need see nothing yet you know i think there's a bit of that effect and a bit of of obviously the joker thing where it's like you have two guys win oscars for playing the joker where i found the batman it's tense he laughs at the things that make the rest of us cry and scream. But yes, the idea that now these roles are meant to be taken incredibly seriously.

So important. And I'm like, Dano is able to, A, B, I feel like, it feels like he's having more fun with that role than most superhero villain parts I've seen in the last 10 years, while also being genuinely terrifying. That's fine, but I've got to move you along. No, of course. That's all I want to say about that. Raul Castillo, Inspection,

incredible performance, incredible movie. I don't want to say anything about it because part of the joy is watching that film and not knowing how to read this character.

He's handsome. That's my reason. Also very handsome. David thinks he's very hot. Yeah. Anthony Hopkins in Armageddon Time. So the one guy

we all had. Matthew Mayer in Funny Pages. Is the one guy we all had matthew mayer in funny pages is the funniest performance of the year but it's also just one of those performances where you're stressed out just looking at him standing still yes yes and like he's an actor who could do lots of things it's not like that's his only mode at all yeah and so it was almost more impressive to watch this guy where you're just like oh god, God, this guy's about to, like, break a window. Like, or something. Like, I don't, or he's going to start screaming.

But it doesn't feel like some, you know, whatever, business-y, tricky performance. Great theater performer. Really love that guy. I saw him. There was a while there where I was seeing him and, like, everything I saw off-Broadway was, like, Matthew Mayer was in it. Yeah. Love him. Joe, do you want to run through your guys?

Yeah, I mean, Tim Roth in Resurrection is doing some high-wire shit. love him uh joe do you want to run through your guys yeah i mean uh tim roth and resurrection is doing some high wire shit like that movie is doing some high wire shit and i don't think it works if he's not there to square off against rebecca hall like she's tremendous we'll get into that maybe later but um um he just was one of those like his presence he enters that movie and you're just like what the fuck is going on? What is, like, what the ground that I was on is maybe, like, not as steady as it was before. It's a good use of, you know, he's a scary guy. Of his vibe, yeah, his vibe.

Steven Yeun is, maybe this is, like, my third time that I've nominated him by now. Like, I've not, like, he's so good in this role and like again like gives that movie another level that like the the whole that whole part of that didn't really need to be there as much as like it didn't need to go that hard right yes yes no point of phrase that i just thought of right now he's he's one of the best actors of his generation and i'm just so relieved that he's finally joining the marvel cinematic universe the headlines announcing he's finally joining the Marvel Cinematic Universe. The headlines announcing, he's finally... We got him.

We stopped dicking around with this other shit, Steven Yeung. Join the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I like how they cast him in, what, he's in Thunderbolts, right? Where they're like, he's playing, but a big role. Important.

Where they can't, he's not just, you know, Jack FBI or whatever. He's not just, you know, Jack FBI or whatever. He's not just in this one, okay? He's gonna be playing fucking. Jack FBI is one of my favorite superheroes to watch. Great character.

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and, um, I wonder, I tried to ask Rian Johnson about that. Yeah that yeah yeah because i'm watching it being like well like i know that edward norton is a bit of a tough customer get out of here and also in the last 10 years has like pivoted to being like one of these vc like fucking tech bubble is he like that he's like and he's always on like joe rogan right like he's he's one of these guys

who's like investing in all these companies and is all about like whatever. I hope he makes lots of money doing this. And so I was just trying to get like, you know, like, yeah, but it's just a very good use of his like weird mix of like handsome charm and

kind of nervy, you know, weirdness. Well, there's not really much of a turn with that character. It's not like you initially, like from minute one, you're, weirdness. Well, there's not really much of a turn with that character. It's not like you initially, like, from minute one, you're like, this fucking guy.

Right. So he's able to sort of lean into that even further as the movie goes along. Well, it's right. Which is really funny. It's the gambit of the movie, which is, everything is exactly how it appears upon first impression, and then we make you overthink it.

But because it's Edward Norton, I do think it does help that you're like, well, maybe there is a second layer to this guy. Yeah, there has to be. We have talked about it so many times, but it just never stops being confounding I do think it does help that you're like, well, maybe there is a second layer to this guy. There has to be. We have talked about it so many times, but it just never stops being confounding to think about Edward Norton being positioned as the return to the 70s method actor leading men.

Yes. And now he basically only works playing like... Wes Anderson roles. Emasculated dudes in Wes Anderson movies and playing parodies of his own pomposity. He only works in comedies now. But what a great like fascinating career arc. Or his perceived self-seriousness.

Right, right. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, Ryan only had nice things to say about him. Yeah, good. Great performance. I should also say, every single one of those Oscar nominees I think is great. Both of the Banshees boys, I love them.

Brian Tyree Henry has been Oscar worthy for a while I think it's a very good performance He is one of those guys who you're just like well he's getting everything And Dano is great in Fablemans He is Or no wait but it's Hirsch who got the nomination Hirsch is also great

Dano I just thought was going to get that Here's your first nomination buddy Congrats on many years of good work And he didn't And instead Hirsch got the sort of valedictory was gonna get that yes uh here's your first nomination buddy like congrats on like many years of good work uh and he didn't and instead hirsch got the sort of valedictory uh nomination justin long is amazing and barbarian yes he's another sort of a you know like norton he's crucial to the meta twist yes of the movie yeah the use of him against type and he plays it so well andrew scott just like have you seen katherine culverde you freak embarrass you're sick griffin it's a good movie you're sick it was it was a fucking i missed the three days it was in theaters and i hate watching stuff at home

yeah but it's a good home watch it is i need i will watch it uh there are worse home watches than that one and uh there's just a moment in that movie uh the people who've watched it will know what i'm talking about where he just uh is cradling billy piper's face and talking to her yeah we're just like this guy just figures out how to fuck me up every once in a while like in a new way and i don't always love andrew scott i i was uh talking to someone who worked on that movie sure who was talking about watching him work it was not lena dunham uh and saying like he's like a different species like watching him work it was one of those moments where i understood like oh people who are that level of actor they're just like existing on a different wavelength like

they weren't even saying as a positive or negative yeah but they were just like his weird ability to conjure stuff up and put energy through the lens and all that shapeshifter who's your winner? my winner I think is Anthony Hopkins that's a fair win that's a good one

I got no beef with it did you run through your but K.A. Kwan is my winner he always has been I am positive on that movie but not fanatical or whatever. Not like sort of best of the year with it. But I've just always thought that he's everything powering that movie. I love that performance.

I'm happy if he wins an Oscar. Yeah, I'll be really happy if he wins an Oscar. Who's your winner? My winner is Tim Roth. Tim Roth. Yeah. Would make my lineup even if I opened it to all Oscar nominees and whatever. Mr. Orange.

Yeah. Ben and I saw Resurrection together. Yeah. And Ben, not to put you on blast, but you were like, I'm confused by that performance. Yeah. It has not stuck with me at all either. Yeah.

I mean, I'm remembering as we're talking about it. Yeah, I just felt weird to see him in that role. Well, you, if I can speak to the experience of watching the movie next to you,

you seemed thoroughly creeped out every time he was on screen and talking. Yeah. Like, unnerved, going like, what the fuck is this? Yeah.

And then afterwards, you were like, it just like just like for what he's saying it's weird how calm he's being about all of it. Yeah. That is true. And that's the thing I find fascinating about that performance is it's like he is saying the most insane demented shit in the world. Yeah. That movie hinges on is this guy for real or not. Well that's things you never know if he believes what he's saying. And I don't know if Roth believes what he's saying correct and

i don't know if roth knows whether he believes you know what i mean like i would love to talk to him about that and just like how much did you follow down the path of i need to know whether he's being real or not because he says everything like it's his coffee order at starbucks right yes yeah but it's the most terrifying shit can Can I just tell you who is, wait, who's your winner? Oh, Roth. Yeah. Who's handing the trophies? I would love to do that. Sure.

Yes. So Ruth Negger Griffin is giving Anthony Hopkins a trophy. Oh, sure. Yeah. Mia Wasikowska, Wasikowska, is giving Kehu Kwan a trophy. That's nice. And Polly Draper of Shiba Baby.

That's right. That's right. Is giving, that's fun. Tim Roth a trophy. Can we talk Hopkins for a minute? Just because he's the only one all three of us shared the trophy can we talk hopkins for a minute just because he's the only one all three of us shared yeah the only three bagger yeah uh

this was the year of uh people investigating their own jewish childhoods and not casting jewish actors right sure and hopkins felt like almost in the most egregious out of all of them right and then i saw this movie and i was like i have never seen anything remind me more of my grandfather specifically than this performance that's cool a similar sort of like uh i mean my grandfather was a hungarian immigrant sure but of a similar age and a very simpler similar temperament uh it just felt like it completely captured this vibe of the thing. And it is quietly one of those thermostat performances where he is playing both sides of the coin. Yeah. You know, he's trying to strategically guide this grandson.

Right. And teach him the best way to function within the world, but also imbue some innate sense of morality with him where a lot of other people around him are just telling him what he needs to do to succeed. Yes. He has this moral center that you totally believe but then he will also say something like you know don't don't rock the boat you know where you're like yeah you know but and it changes based on who else is in the scene what time of day it is what the grandson says to him well and that's survival instinct right so when does survival instinct kick kick in and it's like a pin drop silent performance yeah you know it's so it's like uh um with robin williams line about gus van stan he's so subtle it's almost subliminal yeah that was in his oscar speech yes um

you know james gray's grandpa was uh like an eastern european jew who had passed through liverpool right and that is why he cast obviously obviously, you know, a British actor in the role. Yeah. And he showed me, when I interviewed him, I'm going to just keep bragging about the interviews. Please. He showed me a picture of his grandpa. And he really did look like an old gent. You know, like that kind of grandpa.

It's like he's always dressed up a little more than he needs to be. You know, like he has a hat. My grandfather was a suit man, yeah. My grandpa, Julius, gave himself the middle name of Napoleon. Wow. Which I have never forgotten. Wow.

If I can call out just like one other bubble thing quickly. Yeah. Bubble thing. The Judd Apatow movie? Yes. Yes. Right, I'd like to nominate the entire cast

of the bubble obviously it goes without saying that i would nominate each category with five performances from the right of course you probably could i could see probably because um no i just want to say uh justin long in uh barbarian i feel like it's a lot of shout outs as like this is a performance that should have been considered more seriously for oscars david gets the gold star for being brave enough to put him in the five i think quietly yeoman's work in that movie being done by bill scars guard scars he's great oh yeah where the first 30 minutes of that movie hinge entirely on is this guy the central conflict of the movie right is this guy because especially barbarian was on this, don't know anything about it going in. Or is this a completely innocent, sweet guy

who just has mildly creepy vibes? Yeah. That's why you cast Bill Skarsgård, right? It's smart of him to lean into that. His producing the movie is very telling. Did you watch Castle Rock at all? A better show than probably its reputation gets. That's the vibe he's working on that too,

where you look at him and it's just like, how outside the norm of everybody else's experience are you in this movie? Fascinating actor. Yeah. But long, the scene where he really seems to be repenting and aware, and then of course, like flips right back.

Oh, sure. No, no, later. Oh, but the bar scene is really good too, where he explains what he did and you're like well he's guilty but you're like but i understand that this man does not really think he is or yes he's walled off yeah a part of himself like to sort of justify it also just the first cut so long is probably the most satisfying moment of 2022 yeah especially seeing it with the crowd. We'll return to the 8th Annual Blank Check Awards

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Okay. I'll go first. Do it chloe east for the fablements nice sigourney weaver for avatar way of water kiki palmer for nope nina haas for tar and lashana lynch for the woman king those are my nominees it's a good list thank you i agree sure uh mine are jennifer ely for she said uh kate hudson for glass onion uh sure oh yes yes i mean i should have put money down on that yeah yeah i could that's on you that's on me you're poorer now than you could have been and that's on you i could have retired retired. Judith Ivey in Women Talking. Also should have put money down on that for Joe. Samantha Morton in She Said, and Rachel Sennett in Bodies, Bodies, Bodies.

Wow. Rachel Sennett in Bodies, Bodies, Bodies. Did you not make her last year? No, weirdly I didn't, which is why I felt liberated to do it. She's by far my favorite part of that movie a movie that i don't really love but she is uh sparklingly funny in that movie and talented and i love her okay my nominees for best supporting actress are naomi marlon in tar dolly de leon in triangle of. Snubbed by the Oscars.

Yep. Kiki Palmer in Nope. Chloe West in The Fablemans. Chloe East. Jesus Christ. Going in a completely opposite direction, Griffin. Jesus. Chloe South in The Fablemans.

And Thuso Mbudu in The Woman King. Great performance. Almost a lead performance. Not to hack. I'll say this. I feel the same way about Kiki Palmer. I agree, but that one is very cuspy or whatever for me.

They campaigned her in supporting and I was sort of like, that's fine. It's an ensemble movie. Well, I was happy when she won. You know, Kaluuya's like the lead. Yeah. And like she's a little in there.

Obviously, Viola Davis is like the star of The Woman King. But, you know, kind of becomes Na'vi's movie in that.

I agree. Like kind of does. I am usually the one throwing out crazy category fraud accusations. Uh-huh.

I strategically, actress was my toughest category. There were two performances that at one point were on my actress long list that I just shifted so I could get them in. I think it's fine. Yeah. So we have no shared people? We have Chloe East. Well, no three baggers. Right. No. But we shared Kiki Palmer. A little tip. No three baggers. Right.

No. But we had we shared Kiki Palmer. A little tip of the hat. Yes. Chloe East and the Fablemans. It's just Amy Adams

and Catcher if you can all over again. Yeah. Yeah. She rules. Can't wait to see what she does next. That's my feeling.

Rewatched that movie and I liked her even more. Same. And I liked her the first time. Same. Well because the first time watching it I was like oh I'm surprised this character's sticking around the first time. Same. Well, because the first time watching it, I was like,

oh, I'm surprised this character's sticking around the movie. Yeah, you're like, is this a two-scene character? Right. And she's in the back third. Right. And then you watch it a second time, and she's actually in it for less time than you remember,

because that end section is so compressed. But it's like four or five scenes in a row that are just so good. Yes. Have a complete arc. Yep. And so many actors, I think, could play condescendingly towards the character. And she plays it so earnestly.

And I agree. It's very similar to the Amy Adams performance, which infuriatingly took three more performances after that for people to finally take Amy Adams seriously when that should have been her immediate star moment. We'll see what happens to Chloe East. Yeah. Yeah. Key Palmer, nope.

So good. I feel like we might have an opportunity to talk about it again later in the ceremony. Tipping my hand a little bit, but yeah. But another just like, she has been on a good run for a while. Yeah. But that's a performance

that kind of makes her undeniable. Yeah. There are few people in her age bracket who I think have more charisma. Yeah. Just pure charisma. That's the thing it's just like a absolute like just bubbling performance and it's what she in particular

it's one of those things where it's like there's so many directions she could go because like she is undeniably like a fantastic movie star but she's also like so personality forward that like you could see her doing like they've tried to put her as like you know hosts of things right she should absolutely host a major award show at some point because like she'd be fantastic at it um you know television obviously she's got the right kind of like personality where you would you know show up for 10 episodes of something with her so you can see where it's like a little bit of almost like choice paralysis where it's just like where do we put her she feels like an old school star where you're like she could do

anything not only any play any type of role but she could do like a fucking review on broadway you know she could host the oscar like anything yeah yeah yeah um also that movie is, you know, so acidic and like, you know, mordant in its view of, you know, making entertainment. Sure. How Hollywood works and how it spits people out. You need her. You need someone who's still, you know, the kind of like her and fucking who's the guy? Who's the cute guy? Oh, from the OA, Brandon Perea, who I've loved since the OA.

And I feel so justified now. Yes, exactly. The Oscar nominees, by the way, are Angela Bassett, Hong Chao, Carrie Condon, Jerry, Jamie Lee, Curtis, Stephanie Hsu. I don't know who's going to win. No, it's the most wide-open acting category, I think, in quite a while. I was calling months ago that Jamie Lee was going to win as the career anointment. And then it felt like she was wiping out. Yeah. Yeah.

And now she's got some heat again. I love Jamie Lee Curtis as an actor, but it would be ridiculous for her to win. Of those five nominations, I mean, she serves the movie just fine.

I know we watched the film a second time. Her final scene's really fucking good. It is. She gets better as that movie goes on. I think of the two of them, though,

I think Stephanie Hsu is the one I would rather win. She's obviously giving a more complex performance, but she's not going to win them, though, I think Stephanie Hsu is the one I would rather win. She's obviously giving a more complex performance, but she's not going to win. But, like, I loved Stephanie Hsu. I loved Carrie Condon. I love Angela Bassett. Carrie Condon, I think, is pretty incredible in Banshees.

She's amazing as an actor. I feel the same way, Joe. I have nothing negative to say about Angela Bassett in Wakanda Forever. It feels a little absurd to me that she would finally win her Oscarcar for that movie and that that's the movie that would like break the fucking marvel and on some level that's not her problem you know what i mean that's the oscar's fault it's not her problem yes and i think that's

why she will win yeah and she gave that interview the new yorker where she's like why not me yeah basically and it's sort of like yeah i know yeah and i just it's just a question of like can they hold their nose well here's the thing though and this is one of like yeah i know yeah and i just it's just a question of like can they hold their nose well here's the thing though and this is one of those like precursors a lot of voters will have to do because precursors don't predict awards they reflect voting patterns but when it's a split like that somebody wins bafto somebody wins sag somebody wins the globes yeah the globes are like by far the least predictive because there's no, obviously no voting overlap. So like,

that's the only thing where I'm just like, oh God, if the SAG contingent really likes Jamie Lee Curtis and the BAFTA contingent really liked Carrie Condon, I do feel like now the votes will be spread out so far.

Yeah. Like the threshold's going to be low, which is why if I had like a hundred bucks, I might throw it on Hong Chao because like, who the fuck knows

at this point? Yeah. I mean, Hong Chao was good in that movie. She's great. Hong Chao because like who the fuck knows at this point yeah I mean uh Hong Chao was good in that movie she's great Hong Chao did the best she could yeah with the worst Oscar nominated movie of the year and it's I I don't think anybody escapes that movie no truly I if I were to nominate Hong Chao I would nominate her for the menu, if anything. Same. But more seriously consider that. Sure. I don't like that the whale has any Oscar nominations, much less three. I agree. Yeah. I have nothing against Hong Chao. I think I'm in a minority on this regard, which is

I think every performance in the whale is good considering what they're being asked to do. I feel like most people I know will like, I sort of see what you're talking about. I maybe won't go that far. Give it to two or three performances and then argue that the rest of them are terrible. I think the script is a nightmare. The ceiling is so low on what you can actually do with that material.

And I think they're basically all being asked to do performances at incompatible energy levels and styles. A little bit, a little bit. So it's like you have to judge them all on their own criteria. Yeah. But my whole take on that movie is it's the fucking Susan Boyle Britain's Got Talent performance.

Where it's like people really emotionally committing and doing technically strong work. And then the context around it is so condescending and toxic to me. That I'm just like, I kind of can't separate this from. There's a performance in that film that's radioactive. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. See, I'm sorry. I think that is a radioactive character. I have found myself going against the consensus on that one.

Yeah, I feel the same way. And I think it's because I only just saw that movie, so I was so built up to thinking that she was going to be so terrible. We're talking about Sadie Sink. But... I won't say who I'm talking about, but her name rhymes with matey-matey. I don't know anyone.

That character on paper is a nightmare no one could make that work that's that's sort of my feeling i i i don't i don't envy her having to do this yeah yeah no it's not a good movie um awful awful i would put some money on carrie condon just just the kind of like sure okay i just feel like you at this point you're not going to get good odds it also just feels like Banshees is so beloved and weirdly now that might be the one category they give it to

right Banshees is like well like even original screenplay is so up in the air at this point who's getting original screenplay who the hell knows

it's either Banshees or Everything Everywhere or Tar or Fableman's kind of they should but yeah

cause McDonagh has an Oscar. Seemingly the thing with Steven Spielberg now is he has a short film Oscar. He lost to Jordan Peele. Oh, right. But he does have the short film Oscar. Yes, he does. He's a writer.

I can imagine them wanting to give him a writing honor. I don't know. I could see... What's the fifth nominee in that category? Triangle of to give him a rating on it. I don't know. Everything everywhere would be bad. I agree. I could see. What's the fifth nominee in that category? Triangle of Sadness. Oh, yeah. The other four could win. Yeah.

Right. Yes. Dolly DeLeon and Triangle of Sadness. A movie I'm. Nice segue. Pretty fucking mixed on. But I do not understand how that film hits as big with the Academy as it does. That's incredibly curious.

And snub her. Yeah. Because it just felt like that was a thing when that movie played at Cannes and people weren't sure if it had long-term prospects in the awards, but they were like, this performance is pretty incredible. I think that film did not hit with actors. It hit with the other areas. Yeah.

It's just... My thing with Triangle of Sadness is that it's nothing against Dolly DeLeon or her performance. Her performance is good. I think that movie is... You're really exhausted with the movie by the time she shows up i think it's i think it's a better movie if it ends a lot sooner and by virtue then would truncate her performance i really like that movie anyway i was exhausted by the middle yeah chunk the middle is pretty exhausting but the last part is the last part right so you're so tired yeah her performance is kind of like 50 more minutes back yeah yeah

her performance is great she's very funny in that movie yeah i i don't mind that movie i don't know people hate him now and i'm kind of like ah he's a little muckety muck yeah i yeah i'm i'm reuben austin positive look uh oscars make everyone hate everybody they do well it's not it's no it's the double cam that's why people hate him sure that's part of it because i mean right when i say people i mean nerds on film twitter i don't's why people hate him. Sure, that's part of it. Because I mean, when I say people, I mean nerds on film Twitter. I don't mean regular people who do not know who that man is.

Of course. And he gives these interviews now and he's like, maybe my next film is set on an iPad. And people are like, get the fuck out of here. And I'm like, you little rascal.

If film Twitter existed in the 1980s, Billy August would have been a pariah for winning two Palme d'Ors. Boring. boring also it's just like this it's not just that the season is too long as people say it's a tad long of course right it's also just like our media landscape means these people are not only on the campaign trail for six months at least if not longer if they're feeling like a full year right yeah everything everywhere all at once people basically have been a year long.

And, uh, Oceland almost a year as well. But it's like, we're, if we're, uh, us terminally online film people. Who?

What? Are being inundated with this shit nonstop for a year. It's not like, oh, for like three months they're going on late night talk shows. It's like, we're reading every fucking little excerpt of every interview it makes you resent all of these people yeah um naomi merlant and tar i feel like nina haas is the supporting performance that a lot of people talk about

she's great nina haas i think one of the best actors alive she's just one of those people who seems to have walked out of the real world i don't know she's such a special actor noemi merlant is amazing in tar i just think i hear no one talking about that and it is such an important sort of like um to a certain degree she functions as the audience perspective oh yeah but in that way where she's like opaque transparent opaque transparent yeah and but yet it's not being uh unreadable right you know it doesn't feel like she's right but our access to her is so uh limited yeah yeah see that movie where she falls in love with an amusement park ride no it sounds like my kind of shit jumbo with an amusement park ride like that like because i've seen that like 2020 or whatever like a ferris wheel yeah yeah yeah no i know She's in love with it. Yeah, yeah.

Anyway, I think she's great. She's great in that movie. And you're right. You're right. She's sort of very crucial to the emotional for the movie. I agree. Who else?

Sigourney Weaver, incredible. Come on, Griffin. You know, come on. Did you nominate Sigourney Weaver? I did. I missed that. You blew it. Okay, I blew it. Why did you you nominate Sigourney Weir? I did. I missed that. You blew it. Okay.

I blew it. Why would you not nominate her? Right on the cusp for me, along with Grace Hoffman, Resurrection, Kristen Stewart, and Crimes of the Future were the other ones I was seriously considering. That is a strange performance. It's a very strange performance.

I couldn't quite commit to putting her in the five. I admire the swing of it so much. Sure, sure, sure. Me too. I think she's doing a great job there. It's just such an odd thing. Yes. Grace Hoffman is great in Resurrection.

But Sigourney Weaver just feels like this one-of-a-kind thing. It's like, this is never going to happen. It's never going to happen again, right? Exactly. Though maybe it will. That's me.

What with AI. Do you know what's the thing that's kind of preventing me from giving her the nomination? What's that? What? Is like wanting to see what she does with the character going forward. Navi racism is the answer. Navi racism.

Joe, did you have any other people you wanted to shout out? I mean Lashana Lynch, the woman. Right, Lashana Lynch. Gabrielle Union, The Inspection. These are all my like top runners up. I don't like that performance. I don't either. And I like The Inspection. And I like Gabrie that performance. I don't either. And I like the inspection. And I like the inspection too.

And I like Gabrielle Union. I love Gabrielle Union. I think she carries, I think that character on the page is part of my problem with that movie a little bit. I think where that character ends up is a little,

I don't like the end of that movie. I really don't. Gabrielle Union in that movie is arguably my Vin Diesel, Sergeant Shroom award. Where you're like, I was looking for this to be an Oscar.

I'm rooting for this so hard. And it just, it fell a little short for me. I don't know. It's the one performance in that movie that feels a little acted to me. The other one

that I don't nominate but would be in any normal situation, this is where I put Michelle Williams for The Fablemans. I do feel like she's supporting in that movie.

I don't want to make a big deal of it. No, whatever. It's cuspy again. Oh, I do want to, speaking of my actual nominees, though. Mm-hmm. Oh, okay. Joe is taking out...

My Kate Hudson... Kate Hudson in Glass Onion Toast, which is my favorite thing that I've had. The funniest line in the movie is when, you know, Benoit is like, you know, I can't remember the exact, but like, you know, it's dangerous when people mistake, you know, Benoit is like, you know, I can't remember the exact, but like, you know, it's dangerous when people mistake, you know.

Right, speaking without thinking. And she says, do you think, are you calling me dangerous? I just think it's so funny. She's got about five line readings in that one that like are absolutely the funniest thing in the world at that moment. I think Catherine Hahn is also kind of unbelievable in that movie.

Hahn's good. And it's so much more of a supporting work performance. To me with Kate though, it's that... Without her huge moments. We finally come around to

letting Kate Hudson do what she's best at again. You know what I mean? After like the long road around about like, what are we, you know, are we just done with her?

Are we not gonna... Our buddy Richard Lawson has so long stumped her performance in Something Borrowed, which is phenomenal. But it's like, this is, you add the comedic element onto this. The tone, the heightened tone of this movie that broke everyone's brain for three weeks. Yeah. Really benefits her more than anyone else. I'm going to throw something out. Throw it out.

And it's, I don't mean this to be mean to Kate Hudson. She hasn't given a single good performance since something borrowed between this it's true right but this is what i mean it's just like it is like she's so i'm so grateful that like we have this version of kate hudson back like yeah i i and i hope other people take advantage of it yeah uh what are some runners up for you gwendolyn christ which is a really funny performance. I gotta see that movie. Gotta see it. I do like the, I do like Stephanie Hsu a lot. Oh, and Lake Huffman was, Grislagi, Melanda, and Saint-Omer,

who's this kind of like quasi-lead, quasi-supporting, because she is kind of the central focus of the movie, but she's also like unknowable and quiet. Yes. But that is such a like, the movie entirely functions on her performance making sense you know like yeah um yeah uh i want to talk about the two she says though because i i sorry i'm sorry i will say i just there's good there's always a one movie a year that i bring to the table that you guys cannot stand that movie i have not seen it i have no opinion even like i will grant that i like that movie more than most people like it

i think generally i think even if you don't like that movie i imagine you have to like at least appreciate what these two are bringing i have never disliked a jennifer i have also never disliked a jennifer lee performance she's really she's absolutely morton is well used in that movie yes yeah it's again like samantha morton's 2022 is weird like haul her out for like a scene in Jennifer Ely performance. She's really, she's absolutely. And I think Morton is well used in that movie, yes. Yeah. It's, again, like, Samantha Morton's 2022 is weird. Like, haul her out for like a scene

in two different movies. She's fucking bad. She's bad in the whale. Everybody's bad. And I love her as an actor. Yeah. Love her too. Love seeing her.

I think I, look, I think I just felt such empathy watching every actor in that movie trying to think about how you even approach playing those parts. I just found out that they rehearsed for three weeks. We have to stop talking about this movie.

No, we do. We have to. I was like, God, what were those rehearsals like? I know. Anyway. I love a good, I do, when a one-scene performance. They rehearse in separate rooms? Right.

When a one-scene performance is really good, though, like Morton, I think, think is and she said i i'm a very like i'm a beatrice straight like loyalist absolutely someone coming in and yeah burn it down yeah and then my other one that i haven't talked about is judith ivy and women talking yeah so obviously there's a lot of good women and women are talking 100 yes and mark welberg's women are talking women are talking a movie that suffers from Wahlberg's Women Are Talking. Women Are Talking, a movie that suffers from basically having like three supporting actress performances

that all feel like they would be the one in any other movie. Yeah. And I think just completely obliterated each other. I think that's probably true.

Yes. Certainly at least with Jesse Buckley and Claire Foy, nobody could really agree on which one they prefer. It felt like Buckley

was kind of moving ahead. Moving towards a nomination, but right, I just assume their votes kind of split each other. But I agree with you that I think Ivy's the best. Ivy's my favorite. I think she's really, really tremendous in that movie.

I love Sheila McCarthy. Yes, also great. I love all these Canadian legends too. I love Polly using all these. Yeah, that's such a, it's a good movie. I feel like that movie's got a weird rap. I'm not sure why. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like the movie's kind of a weird wrap. It has. I'm not sure why.

Yeah. I don't know. I guess people just don't want women at all. Women do be talking. Um. Who are our winners? Who is, who's your winner? LaShonna Lynch, baby.

LaShonna Lynch. That's movie star magic right there. Yeah. She's been my winner for six months. I mean, Kiki Palmer, for me, is similarly movie star magic. Yeah. Yeah. And mine's Hudson.

Another reason I flipped her supporting instead of lead, because I can give her the win. Yeah. There you magic. Yeah. Yeah. And mine's Hudson. Another reason I flipped her supporting instead of lead because I can give her the win. Yeah. There you go. Yeah. Yours is who you said? Mine is Kate Hudson. Kate H. Cool.

Cool. Mine is the Blankies. I'm going to give you. Should I go 10 to 1 or should I give 1 to 10? Do 10 to 1. All right. LaShonna Lynch, 10. Wait.

Hold on. Ask me again when you should do it. Should I do 10 to 1 or 1 to 10? This feels like a 10 to 1 schedule. Wow. Good. Okay. Lisa from Temecula would play well at 10 to 1. 9, Justin Long.

Okay. 8, Kristen Stewart, Crimes of the Future. 7, Barry Keegan. 6, Michelle Williams in supporting. Seven, Barry Keegan. Six, Michelle Williams in Supporting. Five, Stephanie Hsu. Four, Paul Dano in The Fablemans. Yeah. I'm just clarifying.

Three, Brendan Gleeson. Okay. Two, Carrie Condon and one, Keiho Kwon. I surprised Carrie Condon that high. But she's very good. I know. I can't beef with it. Yeah.

All right. So should we do screenplays now or should we do lead acting? I think screenplays and then go to leads because that would usually do. Okay. Best original screenplay.

Best adapted screenplay. Original. Original. The tough one. Yes. Although adapted is tough in a different way that like adapted is bizarrely you're kind of reaching a little bit yeah yeah yeah um oh you're original hard to limit to five adapted hard to fill out hard to make that five i i had a real stretching uh you were stretching um the original nominees at the oscars let's see banshees everything everywhere fableman's tar triangle right we just talked about this yes uh okay my nominees tar You were stretching. The original nominees at the Oscars. Let's see. Banshees, Everything Everywhere,

Fableman's Tar Triangle, right? We just talked about this. Okay, my nominees. Tar, Todd Field. Eternal Daughter, Joanna Hogg. Spielberg and Cush, The Fableman's, Spiel and Cush. Jordan Peele for Nope.

James Gray for Armageddon Time. Heavy Weights. That's good. Yeah. Rain Ranger. Mine are After Sun, heavyweights that's good yeah uh Rainy Ringer uh mine are Aftersun Benediction

Banshees of Inisharen uh The Fablemans and Tar I should say the names right Aftersun Charlotte Wells

Benediction is Terrence Davies Martin McDonough is Banshees of Inisharen Kushner and Spielberg The Fablemans and uh someone named Todd Field for Tar.

David, you and I went four to five over last. My nominees are Jordan Peele, Nope, Kush and Spiel, Fablemans, James Gray, Armageddon Time, Todd Field, Tar, and David Cronenberg, Crimes of the Future. Cronenberg, great pick.

Yeah, it's a loaded category. Most of the movies I loved the most this year were Original screenplays I don't know man The winner is actually the tough one for me Much as it will be for the Academy If they give it to everything everywhere I will be a little annoyed Assuming that they're winning picture and director

Right Like please Kushner doesn't have an Oscar He'd be a worthy winner I really really would like that to happen. And, you know, McDonagh. Sure. Good movie. Love that movie.

If you love that movie and you want to give that guy a writing Oscar, here's your chance. And then I think my winner is Todd Field for Tar, which I think the more I watch that movie, and I keep watching it, it's on Beacock. I also have the 4K. Do you have the 4K? I don't yet. It's got a face. No, I know.? I don't yet. It's got a face. No, I know.

It's a good cover. It's a good cover. That screenplay is immaculately designed. I think it might be my winner as well. This is one of those things that we're truly- It's also so funny. The writing of it is very, very funny. You know, Nope, Fablemans, and Tar are the three I've sort of stretched between.

Sure, yeah. But if I have to it's it's odd i mean because all three of those movies are like a tourist yeah with one person writing and directing them spielberg obviously has kush right right the den kush on the side right but you're like which one do i think i i value the screenplay more than the directing if that makes any sense yeah no yeah that makes a ton of sense and it's like i think all three of those movies are incredibly well written incredibly well directed but tar is the one where i just go like how do you sit down and write that yeah that's the thing i just go like how do you write that movie you bring in lydia tar right you say tell me about your right tell me everything yes but that's the whole fucking

meme of like yeah i thought she was a real person it's just like everything about seems real and i don't know if you guys have had this experience but anyone i talk to who works in music is like i have never seen any movie get every detail the sort of right the like like being in an orchestra the like the details of that the intangibles yes where you're like that is who they would reference that is who they would reference. That is how they would position them. That is the tone. That's how this room would look. Like everything about it, it doesn't make sense.

And his WTF is really good. And Merrim was like, so did you just know all of this? And he's like, no, I like went to Focus and said, I want to write a movie in this world. And they referred me to like a couple experts. It's really interesting that in this year where so many people's movies were so personal to them spielberg and obviously james gray and even like uh jordan peele making nope in a way like working through stuff working through stuff from his career and like todd field is like what if i made a movie about a conductor how about that why don't i just do that let me tell you though this is a bossy conductor yeah uh do yours? That was his original title was The Boss Conductor. Yeah. That'd be great.

Did you do yours, Joe? Yeah. I missed this? Did I miss it? Yeah. After Sun and Benediction. Oh, yeah, right. You went first.

Who's your winner? My winner's Kushner and Spielberg for Fableman. Yes. They should win. They should win. They should win. Yeah. I mean, just the name alone.

Fableman. Come on. Brilliant. Part of me wants to flip my winner to Nope just for all three of them. There you go. I'm just going to do that. Why not? Just a Tar Nope and Fableman

Just stopping you No one's stopping you Three phenomenal screenplays Wait, Chucky's coming onto the stage to stop you? Boing, boing It's okay Someone with a baseball bat just clocked him into row U Our squad, yeah

They hit Chucky with a stick He's now puking in the corner Let me give you the blanky choices here Which are five, Nope Four, Fablemans. Three, Everything Everywhere. Two, Banshees. One, Tar.

Tar. I want to say this just as an overarching thing. I like Everything Everywhere all at once. You do. But I do think I'm so exhausted by the tug of war on this movie that it like- Tug of war in what way? It showed me- It's tough to be an oscar favorite it is it it is just so annoying that this movie now exists only at like these polar extremes of like this is the

worst thing to ever happen to the film industry or this is like the most important movie ever made for whatever reason i have so curated slash limited my social media experience that i haven't gotten really that i when I found out that like people are being super annoying about everything everywhere all at once on Twitter slash Tumblr or whatever,

my mind was kind of blown because I was like, really? I had just experienced none of it. I'm not even talking about social media. I have been.

Oh, like conversation. I have been in the David Sims school of automatic blocks and mutes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. In-person conversations.

Wow. Text conversations. It's so polarizing i mean in the last two in the last 48 hours i met someone who has seen the movie 20 times what and gotten texted by a friend who said is the final nail in the coffin for cinema wow i would say both of those people are like judging right you lop off the high score you lop off the low score and then you see what you got yeah yeah i forgot to announce that bradley cooper anderson lee and mike feist gave out the supporting actor awards oh of course but of course and worst person in the world won best original screenplay last year for two of us and joe you it to Petit Maman just I just like to say these things

Best Original Screenplay is done. I don't think we have anything else to say about that right we all did our winners Okay, Best Adapted Screenplay. I will start. All right. I missed her fantastic category This is the tougher one because I had to stretch you had to stretch sure right, right, right So the Oscar nominees, I feel like are a little weird too, right? What are they? Let's see. Like, who's winning the Oscar, Joe? They think it's going to be All Quiet on the Western Front. Oh, for fuck's sake!

Which shows you how weird that could have been. That is an absolutely horrible adaptation. Yeah. That is a terrible adaptation of that book. I don't know from adaptations of that book, but like, it's deeply bizarre that that's... Oh my God, that would be a catastrophe! It's either going to be that or women talking and I deeply hope it's women talking, of course.

But like, women talking has no momentum and All Quiet on the Western Front has all the momentum. It does feel like it's got to win something. Well, it's going to win a bunch of technical awards. I know, but it feels like they I mean, David, would you not be happier if it wins screenplay and we're spared at winning Best Picture?

Well, it's not going to win Best Picture. I hope not. It's not winning Best Picture. That's a BAFTA thing. Everything Everywhere All at Once winning SAG really, I think, short that up. Everything Everywhere Once has now won the amount of awards where no movie has ever lost Best Picture.

One of them. Apollo 13's the only one who's ever won. I know, but it's about to win the WGA. No, yeah. God, yeah. It's All Quiet. I know, but it's about to win the WGA. No, yeah. God, yeah. It's All Quiet, Glass Onion, Living, Top Gun, and Women Talking are the Oscar nominees. Any of those are better than all.

Yeah, correct. My nominees are 3,000 Years of Longing, George Miller and August Gore. After Yang, Koganada. Catherine Calberti, Lena Dunham. Women Talking, Sarah Polly. And Both Sides of the Blade. Christine Anjou and Claire Denis.

Nice. Joe? In alphabetical order, mine are After Yang, Koganada, Bones and All, David Kaiganich. You know, I'll never know how to say his name, and I should make an effort to find out. Gannett? You know, I'll never know how to say his name, and I should make an effort to find out. Catherine Calderi, Lena Dunham, Living, Kazuo Ishiguro, and Women Talking, Sarah Polly. Well, triple bagger.

My nominee is Women Talking, Sarah Polly. Yep. 3,000 Years of Longing, George Miller, and George Miller's daughter, who I forget the name of. Augusta Gore. I don't write this out as well as you guys do. Glass Onion. Yep. Rian Johnson.

Yep. I feel weird about that as an adapted. I do too. I know why it's an adapted. I'm just going off of their rules. I understand. And once again, I'm a stretch in this category. Avatar, The Way of Water. James Cameron.

Jaffa and Silver are the other writers. Yeah. And again, yes. Eligible is Cameron, Jaffa and Silver are the other writers. Yeah, and again, yes, eligible is. Rick Jaffa, Amanda Silver. Which is basically my Top Gun nomination, my equivalent of the Top Gun screenplay nomination. Yeah, which I considered including Top Gun. And then here's my real stretch, but I was like looking and then I thought about it.

I'm just going to say it and then I'll justify it later. My fifth adapted screenplay nomination is See How They Run. Interesting. Wow. Not a movie I've seen, I'm going to confess. I've seen it. Have you seen it? Yeah, I think it's...

You saw How They Ran? A lot of people. I did see How They Run. Now, let me just get into this quickly. Go into it. I don't even really like this movie that much. I think you did. I remember you talked about it negatively on the podcast.

Right, and I think a lot of it for me is in the direction and miscalibration of many of the performances. I think tonally it's off. Sure. But without spoiling the film for people, I do think it is a pretty ingenious act of adaptation. Sure. Does it change the book in some way? Well, it's basically a movie about the fact that no one can ever adapt The Mousetrap. Yeah.

Oh. It's the adaptation of... Okay. It is a murder mystery around the contract written for The Mousetrap when it opened on the West End. That's what it's about? Forbid it ever being made as a film until the show closed which is because it is the longest running show yeah and so the movie is this weird circular it's almost like adaptation where i'm like i kind of don't like anything else in the movie but the moment i

realized that's what the script was doing and i don't even know if it's not enough for me it's not enough about that for me for it to like look get to the level that i want it to get at in in a in a better year for adapting it never would have made the cup when i was looking at the list of everything i saw i was like that's the one thing i give that movie is it is a clever act of adaptation yeah all right i'm happy to give it something that's nice yeah whatever it's fine i don't care oh the blankies yeahies. Yeah. They went number five, White Noise, which I considered. It's making an effort as an adaptation. It is making an effort.

It doesn't work for me, but I get it. Number four, After Yang. Number three, I'm seeing here Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio. Must be an error. Error. Robert Zemeckis, of course. Number two, Top Gun Maverick. And number one, Glass Hunter.

Yeah. My winner is Catherine Calverde, which I think is a wonderful adaptation. Yeah. Of a somewhat tricky, you know, work. I thought about 3,000 Years from Longing, obviously. It's one of my favorites of the year, but. That's my winner. Yeah.

Yeah. Mine is Women Talking. I liked those women when they were talking, and Sarah Polly my favorites of the year. That's my winner. Yeah. Mine is Women Talking. I liked those women when they were talking, and Sarah Polly wrote all those words out. It's a very written movie in a good way. Like, you can't... Yeah. It's also tough to...

It's a tough... Like, the book is not a book that presents as a movie at all. That's what I've heard. It's a tough piece of adaptation. Yeah. I just like the way that sarah polly considers her characters i like the way that sarah polly sort of like i don't know like moves in moves the story around and allows obviously this whole concept is about having everybody sort of like be able to have their say but also it's it's uh

the movie it reminded me of so much while watching it was 12 Angry Men, which is similarly a movie that you look at on paper and go, there's no reason to do this as a film. Sure. This works as a book. You do this on stage. Yeah. And there are a lot of things she does as a director to make that more cinematic. But I think there are a lot of things she does as a writer. Yeah.

Even just structurally. Right. That are really key to that movie working. Yeah. Avatar just the fucking bones on this thing yeah yeah no it's similar to talking like the top nomination but the year that uh titanic didn't get the screenplay nomination everyone loves to fucking throw well could the dialogue no one no one liked it because of the screenplay whatever the writing people conflate like corny dialogue with meaning the movie is poorly written right and william goldman the year of titanic was like that's the perfect screenplay there were some interview where

they were like what should win the screenplay you're the best living screenwriter you're the legend of hollywood what should win he's like titanic not being nominated is absurd that movie is perfectly structured yeah it is perfectly engineered and avatar similarly i'm just like that shouldn't nothing about that movie should work i i agree uh yeah you're right you're right i i feel weird about it being adapted but that's my that's my problem whatever yeah uh afternoon yang is really good it's another like that story he's fleshing out that story in interesting ways like yeah both sides of the blade is a really good. It's another, like, that story. He's fleshing out that story in interesting ways. Like, yeah.

Both Sides of the Blade is a really good movie. I gotta see it. I haven't seen it yet. I haven't seen it. Yeah. But I was at that point kind of like, what else counts as adapted? You know, I was kind of cast.

I do like that screenplay a lot. I had Rian Johnson and Glass Onion sort of categorized in the original. Otherwise, it makes a lot of sense that I would have nominated and adapted. Because Bones and All was the one where I was like, I need a fifth. What am I going to do?

And there were all those bones. The bones. Yep. Best Actor. Who wants to go first? I can go first. Yeah, why don't I take it? This is the only one where I've included Oscar nominees because I wanted to.

Yeah, you're allowed. Colin Farrell, Oscar nominee. Banshees of Inisharen. Gabriel LaBelle in The Fablemans. Fabulous Gabe. Jack Loudon in Benediction. Paul Mescal in Aftersun. Mescal?

Mescal. I believe it's mescal a lovely nomination god i love him in that movie um you know what makes me feel great him being 26 i believe he's 27 does that make you feel any better barely and uh my fifth is jeremy pope in the inspection yeah he was a late cut for me. Good performance. Incredibly good performance. My five nominations are... My five nominees. Daniel Kaluuya in Nope. Idris Elba, 3000 Years of Longing.

Gabriel LaBelle, The Fablemans. Wow, Gabey. Adam Sandler in Hustle. He's hustling. And I was flipping between a few, but I'm gonna do it. Nicolas Cage, The Unbearable weight of massive talent i gotta see that a performance that movie doesn't deserve okay sometimes it's a little bit like my see how they run performance nomination where i'm just like i i think that movie's kind of a problem

yeah remember when he was in pig god i mean phenomenal i think he was my winner Might have been Must have been Yeah I gotta see that movie It's hot on TikTok right now Did you know that? Is it really? Is it really? Is it a Pedro Pascal thing? No

Yeah it's this clip where like He's looking at Pedro Pascal And Pedro Pascal They're driving And Pedro Pascal's going like That's become very popular Pedro Pascal is also great He was your winner

Yeah Cage Very good Simon Rex was your winner. Yeah. Cage. Very good. Simon Rex was your winner. Oh, right. Of course. And Hattoshini Shijima is my winner. All right.

My nominees this year. Idris Elba, 3,000 Years Long. Hell yeah. Jack Loudon, Benediction. Nice. Colin Farrell, Banshees. I had to give you that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Of course. Jon Hamm in Confess. Wow. Toma Fletch. Wow. And Jake Gyllenhaal in Ambulance. Ambulance Los Angeles. I thought you were going to say Jake Sully in The Way of Life.

His performance as father. Nope. Majake. I don't know. Majake. Those are my nominees. Okay. I will say I didn't like Ambulance. We don't have to get into it.

I did really like Jake Gyllenhaal, though. I'm mixed to positive on Ambulance, but I think Gyllenhaal is he's really just throwing his whole body at the problem. He really is. I love that performance. What a weird career he has. What a weird career. Yes. 100%.

Yeah. But like it functions well in regular, playing regular people sometimes. And, like, he's not one of those people, like, the only times he's ever good is when he's playing sort of the most off-the-wall people. No. But, like, he functions really well as a really weird off-the-wall, like, Mr. Music in John Mulaney Netflix special kind of a level. Joe, who's your winner? My winner is Jack Loudon in Benediction. It's a great performance.

Who is Griffin, if you haven't seen it. I have not. Highly recommended. Terrence Davies' movie. He plays Siegfried Sassoon, who was a poet in the post-World War I generation. World War I poet. And is also gay and is also sort of like trying to navigate that sort of world.

And half of the movie is about him trying to sort of conjure the way to respond to the horrors of this war and what it's doing to this entire generation of young men. And it's all half of it is deal him dealing with like the incredibly bitchy social politics of being gay and creative in that period of time. And both halves of that are played so well by him. And he's just, I mean, he's on your list.

It's a hilariously bitchy movie. It really is. It's David's movie. You don't expect it to be so fun. It's a fun movie now can i push back for one second even though i haven't seen the film yeah he's dating sir sharonan he's not doesn't he have enough do we have to give him a blankie award understandable he's having pasta with her every night i get we have to i get it some of us out here have they can try all the shapes linguinefellet fucking rubbing in who's your winner idris elba in three thousand years of longing maybe my favorite performance of the year if

it wasn't for one you know lady composer i i think that's where i'm going as well i i was me and allison wilmore were like uh at the new york film critic circle jumping off the cliff being like we were the only two. I think I said this in our episode, but when I went to see that movie, I could not believe the second he pops out of that fucking bottle and he's filling up the entire room

and he starts talking. And you've been told Idris Elba is a sexy genie. Yes. So you're prepared. I'm prepared. Yeah. The second he started talking,

I thought to myself, wow, I actually believe this guy is thousands of years old yeah hell yeah three well three thousand years in the bottle basically right how old is he maybe 2004 i don't actually know i don't know if he ever writes it down yeah if he ever takes out a calculator just like totally skips a year of counting and it's just like oh you found out you're one more year of longing than you thought you had. I think there's a universe in which I would have given it to Kaluuya if I hadn't already given him just a word before. You gave him an award for Get Out, as did I.

Yes. But it's just kind of, he's, for being so young, it is astonishing how like sharp Kaluuya's craft has become. This is what I love about this year's crop of actors. And I know it's like, it's not novel to like award, you know, incredibly talented young actors, but like generally the trend is reward ingenues, actress, and then the sort of like more established actors. And like the crop of great performances by young actors

like Loudon, Meskel, Kaluuya, Jeremy Pope. It's just like this like this like oh can we talk about baby boy gabriel actually like successfully making a lead discovery for the first time in like forever and like talk about like the dauntingness of having to play that role in this moment in this film yes and he fucking knocks it out of the park without doing an impersonation without doing you know anything that would make you feel like it's, you know, some sort of like exercise that he's doing or whatever. He's incredibly natural. He's incredibly just naturally charismatic.

So funny while taking everything so seriously. Yes. Yes. God, I adore him. It's a great performance. And the sort of locker confrontation. Yeah. It's as good a clip as you're going to get.

Oh, sorry, David. Walker confrontation. Yeah. It's as good a clip as you're going to get. Oh, sorry, David. Did you not appreciate the fact that when you take that scene completely out of context that it's terrible according to fucking social media? Oh, Lord. Goddamn.

Burn it all to the ground. The grand new tradition of we're just going to completely evaluate films based on out of context scenes like two hours into a movie. You know what I like about movies? Absolutely love that. You know what I like about movies? What? How they create their own context.

True. How very often scenes are better. Get the fuck out of here. Yes. Yeah. Obviously Colin, you know,

he's a multiple winner for me already, but I do love the two performances he gave this year. I have not seen the third last year. I have not seen 13 Lives.

He's good. Check it out. He's good in it. And that's a, it's, it is, it's very faint praise to say it's the best Ron Howard movie In many years

But it's the best Ron Howard movie in many years Somewhat faint praise Rush was a while ago Rush was a decade ago No offense to Rush It's beautiful as it was the day it was born But it's getting a little old Jon Hamm, look

It's a finesse performance, in my opinion. That shit ain't easy. He makes it look easy. That's the magic of it. Yeah. But I think that performance is so wonderful. And I'm so happy to have him in my life. That's how I basically feel about the Cage performance,

even though it's a much larger performance. Yeah. But, like, Pig was such a great return to form for him. And then this is allowing him to, like, have fun and go operatic again. But there's also the vulnerability of, obviously, him playing this version of himself. I think the movies, I think from the script standpoint, this movie has a very surface-level interpretation of Nicolas Cage. I don't think they're doing him any favors. And I think he is creating an entire person.

Well, the more true-to-life version is coming out in a few months, and it's when he plays Dracula in Renfield. That is the unvarnished Nicholas. I really hope it's good. What's your winner? My winner is Idris Elba. Oh, yeah. Oh, okay.

Yeah. Great. Yeah. But Adam Sandler and Hussle. Oh, yeah. Well, a movie I had just kind of missed when it came out, and then he gets the SAG nomination, and that felt like one of those classic SAG nominations where it's like

they're early in the season something that came out six months ago gets nominated everybody's already seen it because they haven't gotten around to the later films

the fact that Netflix is by far the most consistent and aggressive mailer of DVD screeners will never stop making it and they were able

to send that DVD out in like June and then he was doing like every actor round table thing this year for awards season of DVD screeners will never stop making it. And they were able to send that DVD out in like June. It's the weirdest thing. Yeah. And then he was doing like every actor roundtable thing this year for awards season. I was like,

so they're giving him a real campaign? Yeah. I obviously love The Sandman. Sure. But I finally watched this thing and was so taken by his performance.

It's a great performance. I think he's given a number of great, you know, sort of quote unquote legitimate acting performances in the last 15 years, but most of them are very conscious subversions

of his movie star persona, right? They're using the weird bubbling anger, the man-child quality, all of this. This just feels like suddenly, out of nowhere, he's giving, like, a James Caan performance, which he always talks about, like, that was his biggest influence growing up. He loved watching the 70s.

Right, right. this doesn't feel like he's using his Sandler persona at all I think he's really good he's just behaving I haven't seen it

I'm not the Sandman guy that you guys are I think this is the performance that would win you over I just recently learned the director of it though directed

We the Animals which I loved Raul Castillo speaking of I think this movie is good yeah it's a good movie

and just and his performance is lovely an easy watch I've seen it twice a really fun watch Joe your winner was was Loudon

was Jack Loudon great winner yeah possibly the next James Bond alright let's see your best actor he's gotta give up

one thing wow and I'll let him pick and you're like who knows maybe it's Saoirse Rogen. I don't know.

Maybe time to focus on your career. It seems to be working out well for you. Our best actresses last year, Griffin, yours was Rebecca Hall. Mine was Romero Reinsver. Mm-hmm. Reinsver. Reinsver.

Yours was Jagna Darić. Oh, right. From Corvadas Aida. Corvadas Aida, which now is legitimately over two years old because that movie was already... It was already, like, right. From Corvadas Aida. Corvadas Aida, which now is legitimately over two years old, because that movie was already... It was already delayed. A holdover from a foreign language nomination.

All right. Yeah. Best Actress. My Best Actresses. Okay. Cate Blanchett. Sorry, Lydia Tarr is Tarr.resses. Okay. Cate Blanchett. Sorry, Lydia Tarr is Tarr. Sure.

Yeah. Tilda Swinton in The Eternal Daughter. Mm-hmm. Tong Wei in Decision to Leave. Mm-hmm. Rebecca Beckbeck-Hall in Resurrections. Mm-hmm. Resurrection.

Yeah. Yes. And Park Ji-Min in Return to Soul. Those are my nominees. My nominees for Best Actress are Teng Wei, Decision to Leave. Rebecca Hall, Resurrection. Frankie Coro, Aftersun.

Love this performance. Lydia Tarr as Cate Blanchett, as Lydia Tarr in Tarr. Yeah. And... What? I had to do it. What?

Leslie Manville Mrs. Harris She was actually a late miss for me And this is a stacked category Do you know That she fucking went to Paris I won't believe it How many of these other performers in this category

Went to Paris Tara goes around I don't think she ever sits in Paris Maybe not Paris I Maybe not Paris. Yeah. I'm just saying. I mean, Park Jimin, she goes to Seoul.

Yeah. She's from Paris. She's from France. We don't see her go to Paris in the movie, though. Not that I can remember. Mrs. Harris,

we see her on a plane. Yeah. We see her at a train station. She does it all. She does it all. Yeah. No, I love her. I love Leslie Manville.

I love that movie. Perfectly pleasant movie. I mean, that was the most purely enjoyable experience I had watching a film in 2022. It made me so happy. I lied when I said earlier that I only had one category with Oscar nominees. This one obviously also does as well. In alphabetical order, Cate Blanchett in Tar. Rebecca Hall in Resurrection.

Kiki Palmer in Nope. Emma Thompson in Good Luck to You, Leo Grand, and Michelle Yeoh in Everything Everywhere All at Once. So we have two triple baggers, and we all have Palmer across two categories. But we all have Kate.

Slash Lydia, slash Kate. Who are our winners? Kate Blanchett. What do you want from me? I think mine's Rebecca Hall. Love them. Yeah. I think I gotta go Kate Blanchett.

It would be cool if you gave Rebecca Hall your Best Actress Award two years in a row. Ben and I go see Rebecca Hall had to hand it to herself. Ben and I go see

Resurrection and halfway through the movie when she delivers the monologue. Yeah. Which if you've seen the movie you know what we're talking about yeah it's a one-er it is unbelievable it is it i was just like jesus christ am i gonna give rebecca hall best actress two years in a row and it makes it look like the night house was like her yeah warm-ups for this yeah there are

two movies two horror movies this year that uh, I think, got a lot more credit than Resurrection did for an actress giving a monologue. Pearl. That functions similar the same way. And then the second horror film, of course, was Sadie Sink in the oil. But I think one vastly outclasses the other. And it annoys me that most people are just like, I have nothing against you. What was your other actual one? No, it was Resurrection.

No, but you said two had monologue that got more attention. Yeah, it's Rebecca Hall and Pearl. And I think Resurrection is such a better movie than Pearl. I agree. And I like Pearl. It annoys me that, like, I don't know, that that became the trendy one. It's my new favorite. You shouldn't like Pearl.

She's a murderess. Yeah, she does bad things. I think she has, like, a good, I think her worldview makes sense. And I think she has some good points. Listen, I'm not going to stand for Pearl getting canceled, though. No. Like, that good, I think her worldview makes sense. And I think, listen, I'm not going to stand for Pearl getting canceled though. Like that's, I'm against that. Um,

but Rebecca Hall quietly deals with a very complicated form of grief is now my new favorite subgenre. Yeah. That movie is, uh, excellent. But her performance is like a miracle. It's iconic Albany cinema, which not everything is

i'm like that that needs to be celebrated i love that movie is actually like shot in albany as albany it's one of those things where i'm watching the movie and i literally and i have been in albany but it's not like i've spent significant time in albany but i'm watching this movie and i was like is this set in albany and it's like why did i know that why is this movie like suffused with like albany energy yeah it's it's it's weird an argument for actually setting your movie in the place where you shoot it yeah right yeah um tongway did we at least two of us had tongway yeah i had uh she's a she's a fireball in that film i love tongway uh tilda swinton i gotta shout her out just i mean the eternal daughter is an immaculate dual performance.

She's the only person on screen for pretty much the entire movie. Fantastic. She's had a great year. Because I love 3,000 Years of Longing. I love that performance too. Return to Soul, I'm assuming, Griff, you have not seen yet. I have not seen yet. But I think you'd love.

Not yet, but I've heard so many good things about it. Everyone should check it out. It's now in limited release, and I'm sure it'll be somewhat expanding and then available in ways that things are available. It is one of those, like, it feels like someone just found a person and built a movie around them. Yes.

Just extraordinary. Well, to that point, the Frankie Coyro performance in After Sun boggles my mind. She's incredible. She's really great. I love her. In my sort of spreadsheet-iness, I do have a section for breakthrough performances, so that is where I kind of siloed her. But yeah, she's great.

She's tremendous. I hope for good things for her. Me too. I always feel so complicated about young actors. Never acts again, just has a good life. Well, that could be true too. She does does act you know and she's talented and like that she wants to do that that's fine but like yeah i am always just like like brooklyn prince is another one where i'm like happy to see her in movies because i'm just like she was just in something

right oh she's in co i'm gonna be she's not like fucking tick tocking and releasing albums and stuff brooklyn prince just feels like she's doing good work. Yeah. Yeah. But it's always, you know, child acting is so complicated. Let me give you the blankies. Yes. Lead performers.

Ten, Tom Cruise and Top Gun Maverick. We love it. Nine, Daniel Kaluuya. Eight, Gabby LaBelle. Seven,

Austin Butler. A late cut for me, but he's everywhere. A late cut for me too. I love him. I have nothing against that performance. He doesn't need us. Yeah, he's alright. But I do think that's an astonishing performance. I do too. I like us too. I love Ryan Alves. I have nothing against that performance. He doesn't need us. Yeah, he's alright. But I do think that's

an astonishing performance. I do too. Six, Tong Wei. Five, Paul Meskel. Four, Kiki Palmer. Three, Colin Farrell. Two, Michelle Yeoh. One, Lydia. Lydia Tong. Okay. We're done

with that, right? Yeah, Best Director. Best Director. Best Director. Yeah, so Best Director for me is always pretty similar to my picture nominees, but my nominees for Best Director are Todd Field for Tar, Joanna Hogg for The Eternal Daughter, Steven Spielberg for The Tableman's George Miller for 3,000 Years of Longing, and Robert Eggers for The Northman. My Best Director nominees are Stevievie spielberg little stevie steven q spielberg the q stands

for quality charlotte wells ss rajamouli nice jordan peel nice and todd field very good and what did ss rajamouli make women talking yep much. You wouldn't think so, but yeah. Mine are, sorry, I'm going in alphabetical by film, as is tradition. Charlotte Wells for Aftersun. Terrence Davies for Benediction. The Daniels for Everything Everywhere All at Once. Those boys.

Steven Spielberg for The Fablemans, and Jordan Peele for Nope. Wow. And the blankies had Park Chenrock for Decision to Leave, Jordan Peele, Daniel, Steven Spielberg, and number one Todd Field. Todd really crushed. Field, my close sixth for mine. Nothing against Todd Field for Todd.

You don't like his hat. Well, sure. There's a lot of hat stuff going on. I just watched the Traders reunion, and the worst of the non-celebrities in the Traders wore a big, dumb hat. Did you see Michelle Williams' big hat? Wait, in what context? It looked like the tortilla, the salsa hat from the Simpsons.

Yes. They did a Fableman shoot With the whole cast And Michelle Williams Is wearing I kid you not A 100 gallon hat It is the craziest

Thing I've ever seen That's good And it's even funnier Because obviously It's not being remarked on And has nothing to do With anything The thing about

Michelle Williams Is I love that performance In the Fablemans She's in You know The new Kelly Reichardt film Which is coming out I can't wait to see And it's one of those things where you're like if you dare think michelle williams

is kind of like phoning in some big performance in the fablemans because it's such a big mannered effect it's very mannered yeah and then you watch her in that movie where she's basically just a tired person who would love to take a shower yeah and barely talks above a mumble yeah it's like she is making very, very conscious choices any time she gives a performance. I like that performance a lot. It didn't make the cut for me just because I had a lot of other contenders.

But the notion that it's like, this is this absurd high school theater, totally out of whack performance. Every single person you talk to, whoever encountered the real woman, is like, she is underplaying her. This is like how when Natalie Portman

was in Jackie and everybody's like that's an insane way of speaking. What are you doing? Are you any good at acting? And then you watch one clip of Jacqueline Kennedy

and it's like oh exactly. And when you look at the two times that Steven Spielberg won his directing Oscars and his mother is in the audience and they cut to her

MOS the physicality. Yeah. She was a her m.o.s yeah the physicality yeah she was a big personality yes it's pretty obvious yeah yes that that is that is a very carefully honed performance imagine if you were that like indulgent sort of flowy mother and then your son became steven spielberg i would also dine out on that that for the rest of my damn life. Yeah, exactly. All right. The blankie winner is Todd Field. I said that.

My winner is also Todd Field. Okay. That's my favorite movie of the year. Okay. Who's your winner? My... You jerk. My winner is...

I think it's... I think it's... I think it's rather a movie. Yeah, that's fine. We haven't talked about RRR. Talk about RRR. I tend to go for most directed in director. I like to split whenever possible just to share the wealth.

I have the opposite strategy of you. But that movie is just like, I saw it with my friends. And in March or April, pretty early into its run, when it was like it had done the one weekend, you know, it was like, oh, people are saying this thing's insane. That was one where, like, that word of mouth really built over the course of, like, several months. So I saw it basically ice cold other than

you need to see this fucking thing. Yeah. And you watch that, and it just makes every single American blockbuster feel pathetic. Well, certainly it makes every single American blockbuster feel low energy compared to, you know what I mean? Low energy, but also just the ambition of that movie, the technical precision. I mean, there are all these things about, obviously, he had like 300 days to shoot that film. That industry is set up very differently than ours is.

They give people the time and space to get things right. You know, he's basically given like a Kubrick-esque birth to make the ultimate action epic. But I just think that film somehow like is able to be this kind of full course meal that touches upon every different genre that gives you every different thing you could want out of a movie in a way that feels earned. Yeah. in a way that feels earned. And just on a technical level, like Mad Max Fury Road is the only film that basically comes close to that where you're just like, every single sequence they are creating new ideas that I have not seen in an action film before.

And somehow continually topping itself in a movie that only exists on a spectrum of extremism. Right. Yeah. I run out of gas with that movie a little bit, but when it's sort of especially in those early stages when it's sort of like

that eye-popping sort of Yeah. Even because like this is one of those movies where like the action is big and bombastic and whatever

but also just like the handshakes in that movie are big and bombastic. You know what I mean? It's just like everything is at a level. See, I don't run out of juice and that's why

he's the winner for me. Because the fact that he keeps that plate spinning for three hours amazes me. Yeah. Yeah. But I understand. It was a little bit of like one of those is just like I'm maybe tapping out maybe with some time left on the clock. Yeah. With that one.

My winner is Jordan Peele in Nope, a movie we all really love and I'm glad the movie getting zero Oscar nominations is dumb that is not the be all and end all but I'm just saying like that is I never had any faith in it getting any I kind of didn't either especially given that he's an Oscar winner

it's sort of a neither fish nor fowl kind of a movie for them especially it is in the skin of a big crowd-pleasing blockbuster, but it is also much more cerebral than that. It's one of those weird films that was like a hit and a disappointment at the same time. Yeah, yes. It's one of those, yeah, that's true, right. It did well, but everyone was sort of like, hmm, should it have done better? Yeah.

And, you know, if original screenplay wasn't stacked this year I could have seen it slipping and I could have seen After Sun slipping in like those movies Cinematography is the one I'm surprised it didn't get just because they'll tend to go off the expectations

Cinematography was a weird category this year and fucking Top Gun didn't get nominated I was going to say the fact that Top Gun got a screenplay nomination and not a cinematography nomination

will never not be very weird They put cameras on jet planes in, on, underneath, above, around Yeah Fucking Western Front I know that was done I was garbage Bardo got the weird nomination but Bardo was Darius Kanji and that was really cool and it's

yeah but that movie looks dynamite type of nomination I thought nope was gonna get where that that branch just goes like well obviously but remember what cinematography for a while there was getting real weird and they would nominate stuff like the Black Dahlia or yes this is what the Christ, which is not a movie that I like, but like what? Like, love a swing.

And they've gotten a lot. All of the crafts categories have gotten a lot narrower, I think, in the last 10 years, which is a little bit of a bummer, which is why I appreciate even Empire of Light, a movie I didn't like. But like step out of the top 10 for a while like that's nice yeah i mean that movie looks good that just kind of felt like the kind of roger deakins is in this john williams 100% now what you do this year yeah okay also a guy who doesn't work that much anymore this was his first movie since blade runner is that true yeah Yeah What about 1917? I'm sorry, since 1917 Empire of... Yeah

I haven't seen it Look What's the putters and murmurs this year? Guys Alright, alright Let's quit fooling around Guys Let's get into what matters

Come on I think we all are unified on this one I have to imagine Go ahead I have I mean, I have thoughts But I tend to approach this from a holistic perspective i think there is an actor who has been puttering and murmuring up a stone

this is exactly my angle for the last decade this is my body of work award and and i can't believe we've come at this from the exact same angle we've recognized this actor in other categories before yes but but weirdly has been ignored in putters and murmurs. And this year it felt like. I will. And I have my theories on this, but I'll let you finish. Much like Quint in Jaws.

Yeah. Screeching the nails against the chalkboard going, attention must be paid. I'm going to putter a murmur so fucking hard. I dare you to not give me the trophy. I can't believe we have

the exact same rationale. That's really funny to me. Mark Rylance is sullying bones and all. Yes. Yeah. It's the the career it's the pacino incentive a woman right if also pacino incentive a woman was his best performance ever you know i mean like this is the putteriest and murmuriest yes he's doing the rylance has ever been i do want to point out that he apparently won our grumbles and mumbles award last year of course he did for that hurt him even more i think that made him angrier.

I'm so close to it. Well, and like his Oscar winning actual performance is also very puttery and murmury. It's murmured for a guy who's acting. But that was the year that you invented the category. Of course. So like he couldn't get it then. No, no.

And you know, I was giving Ian McKellen a consolation prize, but then in some eyes that became the bigger trophy to get. It's the top prize. It's now become our palm door. It's the last 10 minutes of the show. Yeah. In so many ways. Who will putter on stage?

Yeah. But I do think it's funny because Rylance, like, on stage is known for this guy can do anything. Sure. Right? Sure. And then he finally has his, like, breakthrough in film with Bridge of Spies and basically reinvents himself as a preeminent putterer and murmurer and has pretty much stuck to that lane, but has been really testing the boundaries of what you can do in that field. He's an innovator. He's like rat tail, weird sexual stuff.

Give me the award. James Cameron is doing things with a camera that is breaking the boundaries and whatever. And Rylance is doing the exact same thing in the field of puttering and murmuring. Absolutely. I had some runners up. Okay. Wait, David, speak on Rylance. We haven't heard you speak on it.

I don't like that performance at all. Well, sure, but it's a lot of puttering and murmuring. But he's puttering. That's not what we're asking. I understand. He's puttering up a storm. That's not what we're asking. Oh, it's a borderline embarrassing performance, but it's a lot of puttering and murmuring.

If we didn't give it to him, then he'd be like, why did I even make these choices? Right. He gave that performance just for us. It's blankies bait of the most crass variety, kind of, where he's just like,

what do I got to do, guys, to win at putters and murmurs? It's the equivalent of playing Stephen Hawking. No, some others. Viggo Mortensen in Crimes of the Future Who was the last minute cut He was puttering the fuck out of that one That's also kind of like a

A wincing Yeah he's wincing the hell out of it Sure Wincing and convulsing Contorting He does contort Where do we fall on Tom Hanks and Elvis? Well, that's the Waddle.

He putter. Yeah, he's Waddle. Yeah, it's not because it's not a lot of murmuring because he has no sort of proclaims. He's, you know, the key to a putter and murmur performance is, is this character actually speaking to the other characters in the film? Right. And also, am I supposed to be able to hear and understand what they're saying? I have a couple.

I had one that was a putterer but not a murmurer. Yes. Who was Judd Hirsch in The Fablemans. Oh, sure. Who putters but, like, does not murmur. Right. Like, comes in, like, a voice from the movie. Right, he's yelling.

He's yelling. Colonel Tom, it's grand proclamations. Right. Same with Hirsch. He's, what? You know, he doesn't have these moments. He's a And Tom it's grand proclamations Same with Hirsch He's worse He's a snowman He putters and murmurs around the hospital He sort of leads off

He's got a putters and murmurs scene But it would sort of be category fraud Here's my winner It's Mark Rylance For The Outfit The Outfit a goodfit, a good movie I enjoyed that movie Outfit is good

I enjoyed it That's a movie where his puttering and murmuring is his weird trick Where all these gangsters keep showing up being like Who could have betrayed Certainly not this guy who only putters and murmurs I don't know who it is Mark Rylance is like Maybe it was this guy

And they're like Yeah, that's right It must have been that guy And not you I will say An actor who had a really good year this year you know, maybe it was this guy. And they're like, yeah, that's right. It must have been that guy and not you. Where's your one push for speech? I will say an actor who had a really good year this year. Who was it, Joey the Loyal? Yeah, I don't know.

I mean, I saw him the other day. You saw Joey? Oh, I'm going to go kill him right now without asking any further questions. Throne for a bitch. Remember when the National Board of Review used to give one supporting award for like five performances you did this year or whatever.

Oh, sure. Simon Russell Beal is sort of like that for me this year, where he's so good in Benediction, but he shows up in the outfit as a gangster. And my brain flew out of my head at that point at the possibility that Simon Russell Beal is going to show up as a Chicagoland gangster or whatever. It was tremendously fun. I really enjoyed that. I have a murmur but not

a putterer. Go ahead. Which is both Jenny Slate and Isabella Rossellini and Marcel Lachelle with shoes on. No, that is for sure. I mean, Lachelle's putter. Well, but they also jump from table to table. They're moving. They're getting around, man. I had a runner

up which was Rory Kinnear in Men Sometimes. Yeah, he's got a couple putters in there. I honestly thought about having him on my acting ballot. It's such a strange movie to evaluate. It is. It's a most performance thing. I do feel

like I'm a traditionalist here, though, where I think if you're going to win Putters and Murmurs, it has to be Putters and Murmurs from top to bottom. Yeah, No, I agree with you. I think you have to live it. I also have a runner up which was everybody who lived in that one apartment in Funny Pages. Yep. Great call.

That's the Putter apartment. That's like the house of Putters and Murmurs kind of. You walk in and it's just the aesthetic. An incredible sequence. Okay. I'm trying to think what else we had last year. Best Supporting Dick was apparently a category Who got the Best Supporting Dick this year though? This year?

Kind of light on dicks this year? Yeah I was thinking about doing like The Griffin Newman Honorary Best Voice Performance In a movie this year Yeah Present company excluded Because I couldn't show favorites

Of course Of course But are we counting We're not counting Avataratar's actors there, I'm assuming. No, no, those are acting performances. Full body performances. But who's a good voice for you?

I mean, I just mentioned Isabella Rossellini and Marcel Vichaud. She is great. I think doing Double Duty again this year, Angela Bassett in both Wendell and Wilde and narrating Goodnight Oppie, which I know is not a movie everybody loved, but like I love her voiceover in that. I think it's, you know, that's the job, but for narrating documentaries about the space program.

Look, I was colder on the movie than most in that I didn't think it was the single best film of the decade. But Banderas is kind of incredible in Puss in Boots. I was just about to bring up Puss in Boots. I was just about to bring up Puss in Boots. That guy's voice is just such an instrument. Well, him and Hayek and Harvey Guillen

as like the center of that movie I think work really well. But I just cannot, I don't understand how much emotion Banderas is able to wring out of every syllable in his voice.

Yeah. It's very good. Yeah. Yeah, my animated film this year it's kind of mad god i i gotta see that a lot of movies this year like i really like turning red i really like wendell and wild yeah but mad god's just like one of those like you you should be blessed that you got this that's my favorite animated film of the year wendell wild and that were probably my 11 and 12 for the year as it as it shook out right now uh but mad god's also just like it it almost feels unfair to judge it against uh narrative films yeah i do think it's like the best uh object i saw this year yeah

i don't say that in any backhanded no of condescending way. I gotta see it. I've heard some very good things about it. It's just sort of like a towering achievement. I put together some score nominations because every year I feel like I'm caught

flat for a score. The thing about with me and score is I tend to not appreciate a score until like several years later when I'll like see it almost in other or hear it in other

contexts. Obviously, I'm a Babylon person. I'm a Babylon positivist. And that score is maybe the best thing about that movie. Uh, Justin Hurwitz's score. I really loved that.

Yeah. Um, the After Yang score, Asuka Matsumiya is a really good score. I interviewed her. Really? For the, uh, liner notes of that movie. You wrote the liner notes. Or you interviewed the liner notes for the, for the Mondo release. Yes. The final release. I interviewed those liner notes of that movie. You wrote the liner notes. Or you interviewed the liner notes for the Mondo release. Yes.

The final release. I interviewed those liner notes that I wrote. I like the Cliff Martinez score in Kimmy. I mean, I love him. I also, okay, so in the category of like terrible movie, but I'm eager to listen to the score divorced from the movie is the Nick Cave Warren Ellis score for Blonde. Oh, interesting. Oh, I should check that score out because i do like their work yes and it's like i don't even know if it's used necessarily well in bond because

sometimes it's like it's a little bit over bearing but like i was kind of happy for the distraction from what else was going on in blonde but i think that's a really really good score um and i know we've talked about we disagree on she said but i think that nicholas brittell and score and she said brittell's great and we don't get enough work from i love brittell yeah um i think the And I know we've talked about, we disagree on She Said, but I think that Nicholas Brattel in Score In She Said is also very good. Brattel's great and we don't get enough work from him. I love Brattel. Yeah. I think the Carter Burwell Irishman, Englishman score is really good.

Yeah. He got nominated, right? I'd love to see him win an Oscar. He has not been nominated as often as you would think for somebody who is one of those guys. I just, I didn't even like look back through my list of, of films. I just, I, I put down best score and then I went, what are the five scores I remember most distinctly without sort of reviewing anything. Yeah.

And the five that jumped out to me that I, I've gone back to and that I remember really being instrumental to the success of the movie themselves itself. Uh, whatever. Uh, the inspection. Yeah. Oh, interesting. Animal Collective did the score for it. It's incredibly good. Wow. Uh, nope. themselves yeah itself uh whatever uh the inspection yeah oh interesting animal collective did the score for it is incredibly good wow uh nope nope has a great score yeah he yep always does great scores with uh with with peel his name's um yes what the fuck is his name michael michael ables but especially the last like 15 minutes of that movie is almost uh it functions

like an opera yeah yeah yeah and and the score just builds and builds and builds and builds. Babylon, Herwitz, incredible work. Yeah. Hustle, which I think Dan Deacon did the score for. Ooh, I should check that score out. I always need new scores to listen to. Has become a big walk-around pump-up. Yeah.

Yeah. It's got some really good, it's, you know, hard to reinvent the wheel on the emotional training, we're getting slowly better. Yeah. Montage. Yeah. But it's got some great ones. And then RRR. It's hard to reinvent the wheel on the emotional training, we're getting slowly better montage. But it's got some great ones. And then RRR. RRR's got great music.

Has no one mentioned The Batman? No. It was my number six. Huge earworm for me. I tend to, like, the best parts of that score are the very Nirvana-y parts. And so I sort of don't know how to separate that a little bit, separate the egg from the yolk a little bit. But I do think it's incredible, and I listen to it a lot. Yeah. Yeah, I love the After Yanks score.

I have to give it to Babylon. Yeah. I love that score so much. Let me give you some blanky award winners. For score, they had Tarr and Fablemans in fifth. I guess that tied. RRR, Nope, Batman, Babylon. For cinematography, they had Fablemans, which. I guess that tied. RRR, nope. Batman, Babylon. For cinematography, they had Fablemans, which is beautifully shot.

Yep. Ganesh, the king. Decision to leave, Tar, Top Gun, nope. And for ensemble, which is a category we don't really do. No. Kind of an annoying category, in my opinion. I do ensemble. I like ensemble.

I prefer, yeah. Nope. Glass Onion, Inishirin, Fablemans. Everything everywhere is their winner. Now, best picture. Yeah. Do you want to go 10 to 1 or 1 to 10?

Oh, I forgot. I have one other award. Oh, yeah. Go ahead. Best movie about a whale-like creature who is befriended by a lonely,

emotionally confused teenager who form an unlikely bond as the teenager reaches out to someone who has outcast themselves from society

out of shame in the wake of the loss of a loved one wow it's obviously Avatar the way of water the whale can go fuck itself foreign film of the year for me Return to Sol Marina Decision to Leave

are all up there that's my weakest category this year I probably give that to Santo Mare for me, Return to Sol Marina, Decision to Leave, are all up there. EO, I love. That's my weakest category this year. I'd probably give that to Santo Mare. Weakest category in that it's my biggest blind spots. I've been bad in keeping up with especially the late-breaking end-of-year ones.

Look, I've called out in other episodes, but I do want to say Claydream. Yeah. The Will Vinton documentary truly might be the best documentary of last year. But All to Be in the

Bloodshed is obviously also incredible. It's Goodyear for Docs, in my opinion. I like the Oscar nominees. Oh, that reminds me. We do have, we have

the audio file. We have to remember to queue up. Do you have it, Ben? Okay, perfect. Great. Okay, good. A little tease for

what's coming. I don't know what? Okay, perfect. Great. Okay, good. A little tease for what's coming in this episode. Alright. Back to the blankies after these messages. You know, we have a saying in our family, use sports, don't let sports use you. Hi, it's Jeff Merrick from 32 Thoughts to Podcast.

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Let's do 10 to 1. Yeah. I'll go first. This feels like a 10 to 1. I'll go first. I'll go first. Number 10. This Chevy, this feels like a 10 to 1.

Number 10, Top Gun, Ever. Number 9, Nope. Number 8, After Gang. Number 7, haven't really talked about it, but we're all going to the World's Fair. Good movie. Good movie. Number six, Armageddon Time. We're all going to the World's Fair.

It's just tough to get into category. And a Cobb is really good. Number five, The Northmen. Number four, Three Thousand Years Longing. Number three, The Fablemans. Number two, The Eternal Daughter. I'm glad to see The Northmen show up. Love the fucking Northmen.

You know, I'm running this fantasy league for Vulture, right? I'm for the awards season. And so because I have access to the spreadsheet with all of the scores, I can see it's a nice little like numerical thing of like who's doing better. You're the spreadmaster now. And the Northmen has a big old goose egg when it comes to anything across any precursor. It's like one of the few movies that really truly got zero yeah and it's so surprising to me because it has so many fantastic technical elements and yeah that's so surprising what a good movie uh number one for me is tar okay griffin go ahead uh number 10 for me babylon good movie I love that one

you know what I don't give a shit about shit in that movie oh sure yeah uh subtlety yeah

what's next any of these movies where people go like I get it I saw it before in this I'm like I don't know the world is stupid

none of this makes sense I don't need to be smarter than the movie cutting this rant off what's number nine keep it in triple it Ben uh subtlety uh subtlety

uh subtlety number nine three thousand years in and triple it, Ben. Subtlety. Subtlety. Subtlety. Number nine, 3,000 Years of Longing. Number eight, Funny Pages. Number seven, Avatar,

The Way of Water. My number 11. It's right on the cusp. Number six, Armageddon Time. Same position as you. Hell yeah. Number five,

RRR. Number four, Tar Tar Tar. Number three, After Sun. Sure. Number two, tar. Number three, After Sun. Number two, Nope. Number one,

The Fablemans. TF. Yeah. Which you sort of said on our episode, I feel like you were like, that's my thing this year. I love The Fablemans. I love how much you love

The Fablemans maybe just as much. It's really good. Look, I will say this. Fablemans did diminish a little for me on second viewing. Yeah. And Nope a little for me on second viewing yeah and nope did grow for me on second viewing and i do wonder if as is sometimes the case in three years i'll be like

nope is the one that actually has stuck to me more from that year i will also say uh pursuant to your list uh tar tar tar is the dish of raw beef that they served at the premiere for todd field's is that true It should have been. Okay. Well, I'm giving you 100 comedy points. Okay. Alright, should I do mine? Yeah. Alright, number 10, Navalny. A movie I might not have seen if not

having to watch all the Oscar nominations, but I was really surprised how much I loved it. Babylon is my number 9. Cool. My number 8 is Marcel the Shell with Shoes On. My number seven is The Banshees of Inisharan. Six is The Fablemans. Five is Tar.

Four is Nope. Three is Benediction. Number two is Everything Everywhere All at Once. And my number one movie of the year is Aftersun. Wow. Oh, The Blankies. I forgot about them sorry never forget about the blank i know i shouldn't well you're pulling that up can i just quickly give out i know we don't usually do this because we try to make this a positive show a celebration of what we love yeah fight for what we love rather than you know killing what we hate whatever

whatever the fuck i do i do want to give out an award for worst movie of the year, though. Okay. Seemingly the remake of The Core that is happening next door to our building where they keep on fucking drilling into the center of the Earth. Did you see that news story, though, where they found a new inner layer to the core of the Earth? Yeah, that's where they found it.

If that doesn't right next door to blackjack headquarters but if that's not a recipe for getting a second uh the core part two nothing is i think someone wants to weigh in on that but before he does and weighs in in general yeah i'll give you the blankies top 10 number 10 someone has been having a tar-esque spiral while we're at this number 10 rrr number nine decisional leave number eight after sun number seven avatar the way of spiral while we're at this. Number 10, RRR. Number 9, Decisional Eve. Number 8, Aftersun. Number 7, Avatar, The Way of Water.

Number 6, Top Gun Maverick. Number 5, Nope. 4, Innocent. 3, Everything Everywhere. 2, Fableman's. 1, Tar. That is the blankies choices. Look, it feels like there was a lot of consensus this year.

I think there were a lot of really good movies this year. Yeah, but I also just think a state of film as it is uh you have fewer and fewer things that cut through we disagree on some fundamental things i just didn't really bring them up very much this time around look we all have our disagreements yeah we like you know we like different things it's fine that's how it goes you know we agree with yeah babylon babylon babylon's a good fucking movie here's the thing about babylon you know what's good about it all of it even well even the stuff where i'm watching it i'm just like i could do without this but like the highs in that movie are so fucking high those two scenes of them filming scenes in the first 45 minutes of that

movie are the best sequences in anything i saw this year like it's so good dearth of studio comedy is being released theatrically, but for our friends at FilmSpotting, I had to pick the funniest scene of the year for the year-end wrap-up, and that first day of sound sequence in Gavilan is just the best extended comedic

set piece I have seen in so long. I think the ending is good. I don't care if you've seen it done better in other movies, and I think he's actually using all of that to say something very different than those other movies. And he was like, I like the bedroom. It was cold. Sound of fucking singing in the rain. Yeah, of course.

I like the singing in the rain movie more. You like it because the last clip that they show is Sully landing the plane in Sully, though. And like, that's a little bit of a, you know And that's a little bit of a twist in the arm. Yeah, it's also the second best use of Jake Sully in a film of 2022. Our number one movie star. God, I was sitting on the fact that Jake Sully, that Avatar is in Babylon for so long,

and I really wanted to tell people. Oh, you must have been fucking going crazy. All right, look. I think I gotta swing this microphone over to somebody. Alright, I'm back. Ben Hosley, who has spent the last hour stomping around our studio, turning into a

giant red panda, has now returned to normal form. We're sorry about the banging, whatever extent of it was on the episode. This is a bad situation that is completely out We're sorry about the banging, whatever extent of it was on the episode. Yeah. It's nothing we can do. This is a bad situation that is completely outside of our control.

Yeah. I mean, like I was saying, unfortunately, sometimes when it comes to Satan, he just never rests. No. Ben, do you have any categories you want to read out for us? Yeah. I have some original categories. All right. I'm so ready.

So last year was kind of contentious. Yeah. Because I had gotten rid of apparently a fan favorite category. So I'm going to start right there. Okay. This is sort of an absurdist take, right, on a category where it's films that should be remade with. Yes. Okay? Yes.

So top of the list, we have Babylon. Sure. It should be remade with babies. Babylon. It's right in the title. It was right there. It might be a little inappropriate. I was going to say.

Maybe an abridged version of Babylon with babies. A cute nursery version. An abridged version of Babylon, so it's like four minutes long. I was going to say like a minute and a half. Some babies in old timey outfits. That version might even have more pee and poop. There you go. Then we have EO.

I feel like more animals. More donkeys. More donkeys. No humans a film about donkeys. Okay. More donkeys. Oh, more donkeys. No humans whatsoever. All donkeys. All donkeys.

So it's Isabelle Huppert, but played by a donkey, like Isabelle Huppert's character. But you could put clothes on the donkeys that are supposed to be human. Oh, sure, of course. And should Isabelle Huppert in Mrs. Harris Goes to Paris also be played by a donkey? Yeah. Like she tries to buy a dress,

and then the donkey's like, you know, kicking her out or whatever i mean it could be fun but i would never touch that film oh you're right you're like that film is immaculate sure yeah absolutely it's pristine i can't remember if i've said this on mike before i go see that movie i text romilly my sister and i'm like you need to watch this thing stat right asap emergency yeah right and every time she's like a griffin what's a movie recommendation what's movie recommendation i could fucking book the trip yeah book a flight go to paris from right and she oh yeah no no i'll watch it at some point i'll watch it at some point i'm like two or three months in to me just constantly haggling her about this she goes

like i'm sick in bed i feel terrible what's like a really good comforting movie to watch when i'm sick and i was like mrs harris goes to paris and she was like is that a good sick day movie i was like romilly is the reason sickness was invented it's true yeah it's fucking matzo ball soup yeah it's it's it's in the way that like mrs harris goes to paris was created and so the universe had to create an equal and opposite phenomenon to it and that was called illness. It was called prevaricating.

And so then they both could exist in balance. Yeah, and make the fucking sequels, please. Ben, sorry for interrupting. No, that's quite all right. A perfect movie. Don't change anything. Okay. We have now Top Gun Maverick.

I propose it be done with fruits. Wow. Here's where the fruit. Top Gun Fruit. Point of clarification. I'm sorry, what? Top Gun Fruit? The foodstuff fruit, correct?

Well, hey, Joe. Listen. I can make these jokes. No, okay. Yes, the foodstuff fruit would be great. Any particular fruits? I think, you know, you gotta match the fruit up with the personality.

So for Tom, you know, an apple. Duh. Sure. It's an all-American guy. All-American guy. Freaking maverick. Sure. I didn't see it, so I guess you guys could. Yeah, I missed out.

Johnny Ham, a pineapple. Hit movie of the year. Yeah, I did. Billion and a half dollars, and none of them came from Ben Houser. None. Yeah, not a one. Not a one. Yeah. But yeah, you know, at home, you can play along if you want to fill in the blanks as far as who's a banana, who's a grape, who's a kiwi.

Yeah. Are there any kiwis? I guess Jon Hamm's in it. He could be a- I said he's a pineapple. He's spiky in that movie. Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, sorry.

All right. Miles Teller's a banana, absolutely. Now, those are the three original things. Okay. Now, I kept tacking on stuff, right? Just really building this out. Yeah, sure. So I added-

Originally, it was babies, fruits- And animals were the only three things you could remake films with. Right. But clown was babies, fruits, and animals were the only three things you could remake films with. Right. But clowns now too. Clowns now too. Glass onions full of clowns. Well, these jokers in this film.

They're such jokers. Bunch of VC clowns. Honk honk. Yeah. Right. Honk honk. Well, and they all emerge from the same very small glass onion that you can fit a dozen of them in or whatever. The only thing they're disrupting is the supply chain of seltzer spraying in each other's faces. I gotta go. Old school seltzer bottles.

Glass pie, you know? It's shaped like a pie. But that could do some damage if you're throwing that in somebody's face, though. The glass pie. know it's like shaped like a pie wow but that could do some damage if you're throwing that in somebody's face though the glass the glass pie maybe not recommended that's true yeah it's more symbolic yeah yeah yeah um so then of course i also then added robots of course yeah so this is an easy one it's after yang well that movie's just about robots it's not clear to me so you think you need a beep booper big time you need like uh what's the jetsons maid called rosie you need a rosie yeah oh shit the robot's broken and she's just like i got her on her back yeah yeah yeah

a robot with like an antenna like something yeah you need an antenna but an attitude yeah yeah with knobs and dials on the chest right Sure. Right. Flashing lights. If you're going to be a robot, tell me you're a robot. Maybe when they cry, like some oil comes out of their hands. Oh, that's always fun. When they get a little, you know, squeeze it in. Grease them up. Tell me, master, what is love?

And you're like, you wouldn't get it. Go on. So I added some other ones that are cuckoo so i'm just gonna kind of just hit him just yeah all right but this year we're actually gonna be removing things which was last year i say let's take out worry and then it's just don't darling and then it never gets made brutal sorry you down and then i think i like when there's accents it's always fun more accents okay i want to see more accents replace a movie with more accents elvis i didn't think there was enough yeah okay oh you mean like i was i was thinking like accent marks Like the tar That too Over the E in Elvis

Wait, that's actually Elvis Let's put it Elvis Axon il goo over every letter in Elvis But it would be funny if like one of Elvis' friends is like, you know, whatever I'm German Right

Not gonna explain it I agree with Ben I did watch Elvis and go like, what is this mumblecore bullshit? Elvis was probably just on the cusp of making like several nominations for me. Like Elvis was just outside of my top 10. A movie I enjoyed tremendously.

Yeah, I really enjoyed Elvis. Yeah, good movie. Okay, so now we have our next category. Okay. I've done something different this year. Okay. Normally it's the um no thank you no well which i do love those are fun but they retired but soft retire here's the thing it's

like i don't want to like take down of course cinema you want you want to be especially yeah you want to be the tom cruise this year it's yum more thank you okay okay all right number one barbarian because that was a fucking sick movie. It's funny. And it was just a great horror movie. I mean, I definitely don't think I would want seconds of what they have to consume in the movie.

No, sure. You know, a milk. No, no, no, no,

thank you. Um, okay. Next up. Nope. More like, yup. Yeah. Yeah. That was good.. Okay, next up. Nope. More like yup. Yeah. Yeah.

That was good. I'll take all that you got. Marcel the shell with shoes on. Take your shoes off and stay a while. Let's hang out. Wow. Because you're hospitable. I'm a big fan.

All right. And please tell me you have 20 of these. You know, I just, I 20 of these i you know i just i kept it to you know the normal sort of category amount okay are are you serious this rip come on damn that was a fucking blast yeah movie yeah um okay like yosemite sam famously said what in the tar nation i'll have what lydia tar is having i do remember him saying that you did say that yeah to lydia tar yeah yeah uh and but i will pass on the menu not into the tweezer food and just when the truth stings so hard oh the satire it's so vicious yes okay and then you know i have my uh the weddies the golden mop yeah yep of course now we're wheeling it out you've gone through squeak squeak squeak several rotations of being a slick flick guy to becoming a dry dude right there was bones and all this year of course a little bit like rylance just demanding

to be heard for putters and murmurs it felt like this was a year that hollywood dared you to turn your back on the dunk tank let's be honest i was taunting it you just nailed me have you seen marina i'm assuming you haven't no I mean, it's a movie about a spear Fisher, an eel Fisher. Like it's half in the water. You would love it anyway. Carry on. Well,

maybe I should add that. Um, but of course, yes, the weddings, the golden mops, it's the slickest flicks of the year. Yes.

The movies that soaked through what splish, what splashed your number one triangle of sadness. Yeah. It takes place on a yacht Completely slicked in vomit and piss and shit And then later It takes place on an island Surrounded by water Wait what?

No I swear to god It stuck out to me as far as what was moist Yeah And pushing boundaries in terms of different types Of liquids Yeah A lot of these other films Might be water Exclusive

Right But there were a lot of liquids You're right A lot of substances Well it was fusion too Yes Right If you think about it

They're mixed together Champagne Yeah Yeah Yeah Um Okay So coming in from the trenches

All quiet on the western front The greatest damp there ever was. David's angry about it even getting a wedding. I love it. And you know what? I didn't even hate the movie, although I did not like it that much. I sort of get why I sort of walked into 10 Oscar nominations or whatever. Yeah, I'm sort of in the same place with that movie.

I mean, it's wet. I mean, look, No Man's Land had a lot of puddles. Yeah. Very wet. I can't deny it. Yeah. Didn't seem pleasant to me sure didn't no no you don't think so no no yeah okay uh wait weird i can't read my next selection it keeps

disappearing right before my eyes almost like it never existed wait, 13 lives. Interesting. There's a lot of aquatic daring do. There's swimming in that movie. I haven't seen it. I didn't see it either. I just know how it takes place in a fucking cave. He just had to show some respect. A lot of diving. Well, no one mentioned it.

Come on, you gotta bring it up. Somebody does. Naturally, yes. I got another slick flick for you, but no, carry on. What else you got? Okay, Northman. It just works on so

many different levels right down to it just making me horny sure okay scars guard baby yeah it's true gosh he's fucking jacked he's super good that is such a metal movie like for someone who grew up smoking pot and listening to fucking black metal albums and shit you're just like oh they were talking about that movie needs to be projected onto the side of a van like yeah oh fuck yes yeah or a jagged rock yeah yeah jagged rock dude but yeah

um wait i'm leaving something out what is it hmm you're talking movie with sloshing around you were gonna suggest something i was yeah a movie with You were going to suggest something I was With water in it? Or never saw

I think there's something Let me just turn around and look behind me At the shelf Oh right there's all these Navi An increasing collection Of blue figures Okay Was it Avatar

Way of Water? The Way of Water. The Way of Water. Um, yeah. Ben, I assume you did not see Wakanda Forever. I did not. I will say this.

A lot of water in that. Yeah. It is, I truly think it is worth watching on that level. Honestly, that's maybe the best context to view that movie in.

That is the most successful element of the film. A, got good water. It's the best. Because it's got the Atlanteans in it. Is that what it is? They use water as a weapon in a way that I think is pretty ingenious. You know what else they do sometimes?

They blow on like a big conch and then like a whale will show up. I love it when they do that. There's also the thing in the movie where sometimes people are like, it's quiet, too quiet,

and they look down and like a little puddle is forming near their feet. Like they use water to like build tension like that where they're like, oh fuck,

the water people are coming. It's got some great water work. There's another water movie you're not talking about. I forgot about it. Deep Water. They got deep in that one. They did get deep

in that one. Affle get deep in that water. Affleck and De Armas. The waters of sexual tension. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I actually truly have never heard of this. Well, Affleck and De Armas. The last document

of their time together. Yeah. I thought you were going to say the last movie star. The last movie star. Maybe they are. Are you blind? That's going to be next year's version

of the last movie stars is going to be about Affleck and De are. Arguably. That's going to be next year's version of the last movie stars is going to be that Affleck and DeArmas. I gotta say, like, fucking DeArmas getting the blonde nomination is a real flex of like,

I guess she is. She's sticking her hand. Legitimately that level of movie star. The rallying that has gone on around her with like every single award show has somebody

including Ariana DeBose and her much maligned thing being like, Ana DeArmas, you were really, really good in that movie. Like really trying to convince like, because when you watch that movie,

you feel bad for her. You do. This is why she got the nomination. You feel bad for her. You feel bad for her. You don't feel as bad for Marilyn Monroe as you do for poor Ana de Armas. Exactly. Man,

if I had the foresight to do a fucking Ariana DeBose. Yeah. For the opening of this episode. That's what everyone was probably expecting. The show might have gotten canceled before the banging. It's not happening. We'll wait until the banging starts again and then we'll have you do it. Benjamin Hosley did the thing.

Right, you should just do it at the construction site and then they'll pack up. Skyscraper canceled. Giant Drill, you are all of us. Any dry films this year? What's the driest movie of the year? I don't know. Yeah, I didn't come up with any dry-ies.

Well, RRR is like fire and water. Yeah. That's the sort of handshake. Sure, sure, sure. It's a gas sort of more. But the steamies, of course, is Bill Oakley's award. Yeah, that's true. All right, well, I'll say my honorable mentions.

The I'm sorry's gonna go to the bros. My bad, I didn't go to see it. I feel like part of the problem. You let everyone down. It is an incredibly funny movie. It is a very funny movie. I like bros a lot. Here's my complaint about bros.

What? There is the 90-minute mark, a point where I thought that movie was wrapping up. Oh, yeah. Where I was like, is this an A comedy? Right. Is this thing almost perfect? And then it has that extra Apatow act that really is.

I think this movie suffers from that more than most. It's Michelle Williams' hat on a hat. Yes. It almost needs to end in Provincetown even though like thematically I get why you gotta go back to his job and whatever

but like that's when the There's a 90 minute banger in there for sure. I also just want to But then we all agree you are part of the problem.

I want to apologize to Black Adam. I just I didn't believe he could disrupt There's one person you need to apologize to specifically. Involved with Black Adam. There's one person you need to apologize to specifically.

Yeah. Involved with Black Adam. You gotta give Dwayne his- The degree to which that movie changed the hierarchy of power of the DC universe irrevocably. It kind of did. Undeniable. Yeah, they were like, God, clear the decks. That's why I'm saying sorry.

Yeah, I didn't believe. Yeah. Yeah. No, he was right. He was right. Yeah. Because he made his movie and then went, do not go in there. Have you seen it?

I forget. I watched the last 15 minutes of it on David Ehrlich's couch. That's not going to do it for me. I think I need you to give it the whole 110. Do you know what I thought it looked like? What? A bowl full of diarrhea swishing around. I remember, whatever episode you said that on, I just listened to it.

Because, yes, yes, yes. Not a good movie. I almost need you to see the whole thing though, because Pierce Brosnan, the, the absolute low energy that he is delivering in this movie, the like bare minimum of a shit I'm going to give about this movie. And yet still is the most compelling thing in the movie. He's easily the most compelling thing in it. Yeah. 100%. But it is so funny when he's like,

Hawkman, you and I have been fighting battles forever. I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? You guys met eight minutes ago. You fucking liar. You are a liar. The things we've seen, Hawkman. Fuck off. Stupid ass movie.

All right, what else? Well, I mean, that's really, I just want to shout out to Ada. You're just like a really gentle soul. Ada? You shine so bright. Who's that? Ada Harris.

Oh. Mrs. Harris. Mrs. Harris. Oh, she went to Paris. I'm, you know, pretty close. I truly. Yeah, you know, I get it. If you gave me a thousand years.

No, yeah, I wouldn't have got that. I would never be able to summon her first name. I't have gotten her first name is mrs yeah correct i have it on a needle point hanging in the office sure you should be able to remember she's my best friend she gave me the present yeah of course and of course she will be just joining the dc universe james gunn has announced in 2026 yeah with mrs harris goes to gotham i don't don't know. That was the happiest surprise of Oscar nomination morning for me, was that getting the costume nomination. Costume nomination. Well deserved. Maybe it'll win. I would love to see it.

Maybe Mrs. Harris will present an award. Oh, shit, this is the Oscars, is it? Yeah. She should be invited. Wait, she should host the Blankies next year. Oh, fuck. Mrs. Harris. Yeah, how much would charge? That's a different question how much would mrs eris mrs eris let's remember it's like my rate is 80 80 000 mrs eris's rate is 20 shillings and sixpence all right all right we can negotiate with that dress and i will

um yeah okay well thank you benjamin yeah thank you thanks you stopped the noises Pretty dress, and I will... Yeah, okay. Thank you, Benjamin. Yeah, thank you. Thanks, Ben. You stopped the noises. Yeah. The lamb stopped screaming. That's true.

That's true. That's true. Maybe it was that I was shouting so loud inside while it was happening. Right. You mean like you were psychically radiating, like, stop! Yeah, just like radio waves.

I don't know, but yeah uh can't believe that it's the eighth year of this i know i know cancel us it's the best tradition that's going on in my life right now this has been the blankies joe thank you for being guys you know i love it you know i uh we love to have you here for it yeah Yeah. It's a good time. I come here for, you know, for laughs and for inspiration. We come to this place. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We come to this place.

For foundation tremors. Let me get clear to the listener. It is construction that is affecting the ground upon which our building sits.

It's not in the building. It's not in the building. It's not in the building. And this is a big building. It is on the block. This isn't some creaky old townhouse. This is a giant the building. It's not in the building. It's not in the building. And this is a big building. On the block. This isn't some creaky old townhouse. This is a giant fucking building. Right.

They're essentially manufactured earthquakes happening. Yeah. Every day from 9 to 5. Picture a jackhammer you would see a man, like, just holding onto. One man. Yeah. And instead, times that by 10, and it's attached to a giant construction like vehicle. It is an empty lot that they're putting pylons into.

And we like look at it every day and go like, are they almost done? How many more pylons do you need? Right. Is this 10 out of 15 or 10 out of 100 pylons? Anyway, no thank you to this construction project. But thank you very much to all of you for listening. Especially to our blankies for uh putting together the uh the audience awards every year that's such a cool thing that happens

it is we love to see it um i'm very excited for the films of 2023 as usual i'm happy to bid farewell early contenders there are like three or four things i've seen this year where i'm like that could already make it to next year's ballot. That's always an exciting feeling. Yeah. Thank you to Mary Barty for our social media and helping to produce the show. Thank you to Lay Montgomery and the Great American Novel for our theme song.

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this year from the record holder and I think it's unlikely to be beaten anytime soon. The youngest ever blank check guest who has not appeared on Mike in several years now. Oh, get out of here. When Avatar the Way of Water was coming out, we asked Charlie, son of Katie Rich, if he had any opinions he wanted to share on the movie, because we heard he was a big Avatar fan, and he was feeling kind of shy, and we respected that. But about a month later, we were told that Charlie

was willing to submit his top 10 films of the year. So for the first time ever, here are the Charlies. Hello Blank Check and the Blankies. This is Katie Rich here, and I'm sitting here with past and future guest Charlie, who has authorized me to read his top 10 movies of blankies this is katie rich here and i'm sitting here with past and future guest charlie uh who has authorized me to read his top 10 movies of 2022 charlie you ready to get started yeah okay

at number 10 we have light year which we went and saw in the theaters at the alamo draft house had a great time had some snacks uh it's pretty fun movie at number nine we have strange world uh underrated underseen i think a perfectly good family adventure movie kind of like light year in some ways i would say charlie do you think um at number eight we have garima del toro's pinocchio not to be confused with the zemeckis pinocchio really beautiful pretty sad kind of scary sometimes yeah uh but a good kind of scary right yeah yeah uh number seven we have Lyle Lyle Crocodile which I think Charlie liked a little bit less than his brother who has memorized

all the songs uh but has really good songs in it really good Javier Bardem performance uh anything I missed about it Charlie I I like how like um like how, like, how you get sucked into it and you never want to come out. I think that's a good way to put it. At number six, we have Puss in Boots, The Last Witch, which I have seen less of than Charlie has. But it's really beautifully animated and a really good time. Yeah. Number five, Matilda, The Musical., and a really good time. Yeah. Uh, number five, Matilda, the musical. So good. Such good songs. We've been reading Roald Dahl and now we're going to read

Matilda. Uh, and then got kind of emotional at the end. I thought. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, number four, hang on. I need the list. Uh, Oh, number four is good night. Oppie. Such a good documentary. So exciting. It's like all the best scenes apollo 13 where they get to celebrate in the control room we read the screenplay together that was really cool what else do we like about good night offie i like how like you see all the marv stuff and all the discoveries uh-huh yeah those are some really good rovers uh number three is the bad guys another movie that we went and saw in the theater is also really good animation uh some like fun twists in there some really good voice performances also a pretty good song but not as good as lyle uh number two is avatar the way of water of course we saw it in the theater we saw it in 3d uh we've been flying our banshees around

in our yard thank you griffin um we've been talking about how we would like to have a token for ourselves anything you want to say about avatar the way water i like all of the new like animals because like the you kind of get bored of the same characters and they they always put new things in it yep that's true uh yeah we talked about how you would give all the money you have to be able to swim with the Tolkien, right? Yeah.

Okay, and then at number one, do you want to say it yourself, Charlie? No. Okay, I'm going to say for Charlie, Avatar, the original Avatar, which we did see in the theater in 2022. So we think that it should count. I think that Avatar the Way of Water is better than Avatar,

but Charlie chose Avatar at number one. Do you want to say anything about why it's better? I like how dramatic it is. Okay. I think that's a pretty good answer. It's on Disney+. You can watch it again for yourselves. So that's Charlie's top 10 of 2022.

Thanks for sharing it with me, Charlie. Anything you want to add before we go? No, I think we should stop. Okay. Thanks, guys. We have... Who is this? Who is this supposed to be?

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