Blank Check with Griffin & David - The Fourth Annual Blank Check Awards with Joe Reid

Episode Date: February 17, 2019

Griffin and David welcome back Joe Reid for the 4th annual Blankie Awards where together they present their own personal nominations and winners for the upcoming 91st Academy Awards. This roundtable discussion looks at all the major categories, as well as, references deep cut cinema from 2018 you may have missed. 

What a wonderful night for blankies, blankies, blankies. Who will win? He's back. Griffey Crystal. Griffey Crystal. Uptown Griffey Chris. Oh, he's uptown. He's way uptown.

He's never left uptown. Upper East Side. To him, going to Union Square is a getaway. That's like a summer vacation. Once again. I went to Greenwich Village. I went down south for the holidays. You ever heard of this subway?

It takes you all the way down. Down south to Union Square. Once again, a hosting crisis for the Oscars means, who do we call? Crystal. Good old Crystal. Everyone was so excited when they went. Look, everything fell apart. Eddie Murphy dropped out. Bill is back. And then everyone that year went, oh, fuck. Wait a second. Oh old Crystal. Everyone was so excited when they went, look, everything fell apart. Eddie Murphy dropped out.

Bill is back. And then everyone that year went, oh, fuck. Wait a second. Well, also he did blackface. Let me... As an opener. As an opener.

Yeah. Let me tell you... Let me just start off with this. Yeah. James Corden should be hosting the Oscars probably every year. Certainly this year. The man is ready... On ABC he won this year the man is ready he won't the

man is ready exactly this is my abc complaint he's ready made for the oscars celebrities love him people know who he is he's an actor he can sing he can dance he has a tony he sucks shut up that's my counter he's got a zillion i didn't say it shut up shut up he's got a zillion. I didn't say it. Shut up. Shut up. He's got a zillion viral fucking things he can plug people into for like segments. Right. The man was essentially created to host the Oscars. He's English. Okay. Quick pause.

Ben cut this out because I don't want David to encourage the Academy. No, they won't. ABC kibosh. They won't allow people like his Myers would do fine and Colbert would do fine as well. You know, like they're just not allowed. Who are the big stars of ABCs right now? Nathan Fillion, the rookie himself. Nathan Fillion? Nathan Fillion and the cast of The Conners.

John Goodman and the cast of The Conners! By the way, I'm still watching The Conners. Lisey Goranson and Michael Fishman to host the Oscars. Just the two of them. It should be Gritty! Gritty should host the Oscars. Gritty. Gr them. No, it should be Gritty. Gritty should host the Oscars. It should always be Gritty. Gritty. Gritty would be good.

Gritty could host the avant-garde Oscars. I am not a big James Corden fan. I don't really watch James Corden. I don't enjoy James Corden that much. He's not a comedian. But he's an actor doing an impression of a comedian. It doesn't matter. He was built for the Oscars.

Okay, fine. Fine, whatever. You win. Did you see the thing where he jumped out of the plane with Tom Cruise? Yeah, oh my God, so funny. He was built for the Oscars. Okay, fine. Fine, whatever. You win. Did you see the thing where he jumped out of the plane with Tom Cruise? Yeah, oh my God, so funny. It was fine. Gritty gets lulls. I grew up loving.

Gritty gets lulls. It's what they need. Now, you know what though, Ben? Gritty's got too much integrity. Gritty should host the spirits. Gritty should be in the tent on the beach hosting the independent spirits. Jimmy Kimmel sucks. He's bad.

Not funny. Not good. Not good. Show bad. Has a weird relationship to celebrities in that he both loathes them and yet craves them. Doesn't watch movies.

Yeah, no. He's a bad stand-up. Hot take. Has hosted a cruddy show for 15 years. He hosted the Oscars. Guess what? He was fine.

He looked fine. Hot take. Jimmy Kimmel is better than James Corden. I think I agree with that, but at the same time, I'm still like, Corden would be fine. Stop overthinking this.

I think Corden's big thing, though, is that he's not a comedian. That's why everybody hated him when he got the job in Late Night. But he gets 10 gazillion YouTube hits. He's exactly what they are looking for. God, I can't wait to start my Tick Season 2 press tour. Where I suddenly

do a heel turn and grovel at the feet of James Corden's producers to please give me air time. Yes, you should grovel. You could do something funny with him. This podcast is in no way a liability to my acting career. Oh, no one's listening to this. Yeah, right.

Shit, people listen to this. That's the catch 22. Right. Alright. That's my Corden and Rain. Um, alright. That's my corn and rain. I'm sorry. The crystal songs are bad. Crystal singing is bad. I constantly have two, two thousand and three crystal songs

stuck in my head. Really? They're stuck in their earworms. All his 97s are in mine. So I'm glad. I'll tell you what the 203s are that stick in my craw. Okay, ready? Seabiscuit. This is vague. Seabiscuit song to the tune of Goldfinger.

The other one is Mystic River. That Mystic River. Old man Eastwood. He just keeps going. Is that the one that ends with him saying, don't sing anymore to Clint Eastwood? Like, he sang in Paint Your Wagon, don't sing anymore.

And then Clint was like, hold my beer. Gran Torino. That was the inspiration for Gran Torino. Hold my Schlitz, Gran Torino. Using Old Man River for Mystic River is the laziest thing I can imagine someone doing. Moon River for Mystic River would have been one more step down the lazy road. But it's Billy Crystal, so he does Old Man River because he wants to get as close to Mammy as he can. Old Man Eastwood.

He's fully done Al Jolson for one of those songs at some point, I guarantee it. Ben, cut everything out. Start the podcast over. Let's insult some more people. Yeah, I love this. Who can we insult? Mixing it up. I love it. Can I tell you a weird blankies related dream I had last night? Sure. And it's definitely tied in. These are the blankies, by the way.

I had a dream that I went to someone's birthday, an old camp buddy of mine, which everyone's going to grovel at, but get ready for the... An Ezra Miller. No, it wasn't. It wasn't. The point was it's someone I'm friends with in real life, But then the dream introduced the retcon idea that Bradley Cooper

was one of my summer camp friends. That Bradley Cooper occupied the Ezra Miller space of like, that guy we were all really friends with. And now he's big deal.

And now we feel a little shitty about texting him because it's like, I don't know, but we were close. We all feel that way about Bradley Cooper. I watch Daily Assignments.

I know what's going on. I was hanging out with Brad, my old camp buddy Brad. I had completely forgotten that I was good friends with him when we were 12, which doesn't add up because he's 15 years older than me. Sure. And then in the dream, I kept on going to other friends and going like, I guess I feel bad because we're recording the blankies tomorrow and I didn't put Brad in best actor.

Wow. And I forgot that we're such good friends. And it felt like Bradley Cooper had inceptioned my dream to try to chart. Maybe Sean Penn did. I was going to say, I have the statement here from Sean Penn that I want to read. Please do. About Griffin not including Bradley Cooper in his play. Apparently my friend, my old friend Brad.

Have they worked together? I don't think so. Penn and Brad? No. I don't think so. Anyway, the dream ended with me saying, love you, Brad. And he said, love you, Griff. And then I went, wait a second, we did go to camp together?

Then I started doing the Kaiser Soze and realizing the dream made no sense. Sure, right, right, right. Wait a second, but he was already in Wedding Crashers. When you were in camp, you saw Wedding Crashers at camp. Right, I was like, I saw Wedding Crashers at camp. Like, I was like tying the whole thing together. Well, we've started off by praising James Corden and talking about camp. Yeah, everyone's turned off this episode

and then burned their device. People are bleaching their iPhones. Oh, geez. Well, of course it is the Blankie Awards. The what? The fourth annual? Yeah, that's right. The fourth annual Blankie Awards

where we honor the best in what we consider to be the best. That's right. The best of our best. Blankie Awards where we honor the best in what we consider to be the best. That's right. The best of our best. Blankie Awards, we have with us as always, Reading Rain Joe, Joe Reed himself. Thank you. Hell yeah. That was my really sweaty attempt when I wanted everyone on our trivia team to have a nickname.

I do remember that, Reading Rain Joe. What was mine? You were Stone Cold Sims. Oh, yeah, of course. Stone Cold. Which James E. Newman coined. Was it James? I thought it was Sam. He came once and you were so quick on the draw. Yeah. You were Stone Cold Sims. Oh, yeah, of course. Stone Cold. Which James E. Newman coined. Was it James? I thought it was Sam.

He came once, and you were so quick on the drop. James came once, yeah. He went Stone Cold. All right. For some reason, I thought that was Sam, but okay. Maybe it was. Both of them use it. Sam used to use it, that's for sure.

Both of them still refer to you as Stone Cold. Stone Cold. Yeah, Stone Cold Sims. And then, of course, Peter Zabrin, a.k.a. the Benducer, a.k.a. the Poe Laureate, a.k.a. the Haas, a.k.a. Purdue or Ben, a.k.a. Mr. Positive, a.k.a. Mr. Positive, a.k.a. the Peeper, a.k.a. Hello Fennel, a.k.a. Purdue or Ben, a.k.a. Mr. Positive, a.k.a. Mr. Positive,

a.k.a. the Peeper, a.k.a. Hello Fennel, a.k.a. the Fuckmaster, a.k.a. the Tiebreaker, a.k.a. the Kamesh, a.k.a. the Booker, a.k.a. Soken Walker. Oh, the Booker?

Yeah, that was mine. a.k.a. White Hot Benny, a.k.a. Dirtbag Benny, a.k.a. I don't know, graduate different titles over the course of different miniseries, which is Kylo Ben,

Bruce Spring, No Way Ben, I Chum, One Ben, Save Anything, that, that, that different miniseries. There's Kylo Ben, Bruce Brink, No Way Ben, I Chant, One Ben, Say It, Save Anything, That, That, That, A-Lo Ben's with a dollar sign. Ben 19, The Fennel Maker, Purdue Urbane.

Which one? Warhaz. Warhaz. Right. Benglish, Mr. Bencredible. Sure. Fucking, I don't know. You drink Ben Hosley.

Hey, there you go. Yeah, I don't know. Is that everything? What I love about this podcast is that no bit stays retired. No, that bit isn't retired. It's just sort of like it's in retirement.

Like it's in a retirement home. It's an emeritus kind of a thing. It might come out once in a while. Yeah. It's Jeff Conway season four of Taxi. You really are loving Taxi. It shows up whenever it damn please is. I literally, I walk around now just jamming to Angela theme from Taxi on loop.

See, my chill out show right now is Star Trek Voyager on Netflix. So it's Cass from Star Trek Voyager. The other thing I do is I walk around my house doing Judd Hirsch impressions now. That's great. Oh, come on, Louis. Stop giving him such a tough time. He's a nice boy. So is Judd Hirsch just like a slightly more working class version of your dad?

Is that what that is? No, but it's a very fast and it's a very fast. Come on, Louie! Come on! Luck is trying here! In one year's time, I will be in the Five Timers Club. So now, I'm going to be insufferable for the next 12 months, as I anticipate. We should get a jacket made. Or a t-shirt or something.

We should make a Five Timers Club t-shirt or something. We should make a Five Timers Club t-shirt and sell it on TeePublic. Sell it on TeePublic but exclusively to people who are in the Five Timers Club. Yeah.

We protected up the wazoo. It's password protected. Right. We've got lots of categories to do I assume. Yeah. We should quickly mention Liam Neeson was fired

as the host. Yes. We had announced that he was hosting the Blankies and then unfortunately look we just don't want to deal with the devastating Liam Neeson was fired as the host. Yes. We had announced that he was hosting the Blankies, then, you know, unfortunately,

look, we just don't want to deal with, with the devastating fallout of, of course, this horrifying story that happened, Cold Pursuit only opening for $10 million. I asked him, Liam,

yeah, can you just, you can host, but just don't, can you not bring it up? Right. Literally, don't tell that story for the sixth time.

Okay. Just three times. Then he headbutted me. Yeah, I was going to say. Then he got so pissed at getting fired that he's been roaming the streets looking for Griffin Newman. Holding a cosh. Yeah.

That Robin Roberts interview is incredible because you're like, okay, he's ready to do damage control. Look, I don't. I'm sorry. That was ridiculous. And he's like, Robin, I'd like to tell the story again. Verbatim? You're just telling it again? I fucking swear to God. Robin, here's the story. Robin, I'd like to tell the story again. Verbatim? You're just telling it again?

I fucking swear to God. Robin, here's the story. Burn London to the ground. Burn London to the ground. Burn London to the ground. Batman. He has a very particular set of skills. Does he ever say Batman?

He should. You're Batman. Batman. Batman. I keep hearing about this. It's the last line. He says Mr. Wayne. He always says Mr. Wayne. Mr. Wayne. Mr. Wayne. I keep hearing about this. It's the last line. He says Mr. Wayne. He always says Mr. Wayne.

Mr. Wayne. Burn London to the ground. What a year for movies. What a year for movies. 2018. I mean, this may have been the most movies you've seen in a year. Yeah. You've, over the last couple of months, have kept on going like,

guys, can we wrap up? I got to make it to like a 415 wildlife. Like, you were doing your due diligence this year. Well, you've been dating. I've been dating. You know, you've gone dating and i've been you know you go on some movie dates i went on some movie dates but i i saw a bunch of like uh not dumb movies this year you essentially had like a couple seats taped off at bam to go see whatever was

playing that week with whoever you were dating that was pretty much i have never been a movie date i mentioned this on my podcast the other day i've i rarely will go on movie dates for whatever reason but So the ones that I have really stick out. It's not great for a date because you sit quietly. There's something to talk about. I go see movies when I'm seriously dating a person because at that point I'm like

we can handle if we disagree on this movie. On a first date I'm just like... I have actively gotten mad at people who have seen a movie with me and we're like and we don't diverge right we diverge on exiting the theater i've gotten mad at someone for saying the wrong thing as we're leaving yeah like where i was like that was too flippant like no no we have to sit in this right you know my thing is though is like after the relationship

ends so now so we talked about uh ricky and the flash on my podcast the other day. Yes, sure. So now every time I see Ricky and the Flash, I think of this guy. Who gets custody of the movie. No longer dating now, but it's like these wistful sort of just like, uh-oh. Remember? You were dating John Cougar Mellencamp at the time, right? I was dating John Cougar Mellencamp at the time. So. Yes.

2018. As usual, by the time this episode rolls around every year, I am so sick of all these movies and I never want to discuss it again. The Oscar discourse is always poison, but this year it's like triple poison. I also feel this thing at the end. This year it's like one drop and you're dead. Yeah.

It's like the chemical that Scarecrow puts in the water at Gotham and Batman. I guess. Burn London to the ground. It does feel like... Gas Gotham, and Batman. Burn London to the ground. It does feel like... Gas Gotham to the sky. Every year there's the thing where end of December I'm working overtime

trying to fill in all the gaps. And then first week of January I'm like, I'm still at this. I need to have no blind spots going into the blankies. And by the second week of January I'm like, I never want to see a 2018 movie ever again. I hit a brick wall and I'm like you know what at Eternity's Gate

Not escape plan, escape room. Give me that fucking escape room. I haven't seen Eternity's Gate because I was like I gotta see Serenity. I gotta see escape room. Did you escape the room? I did. I escaped the room. That movie rules. Have you seen that? I know. I have not but I've heard good things. They better make 28 of them.

They better. They need to it's really well over. That was the reception that I feel like Happy Death Day got yeah. What last year two years ago or whatever and then now I feel like that but that feeling doesn't last long like I couldn't be less interested in Happy Death Day 2. The ending of this thing

Happy Death Day 2 you fucking rules. Does it really? I saw it last night. It's primer but a teen slasher movie. I it last night it's Primer but a teen slasher movie I swear to god it's not quite as good as Happy Death Day but it's great

we agree 2019 the year of no bad movies every movie in 2019 is good David everybody's gonna be is the 8th best film

of 2019 everybody's gonna be comparing that movie to Primer I don't understand why you feel like giving yourself credit for that it's one of those things where like an hour into the movie I was like this movie's to Primer. I don't understand why you feel like you didn't do so. It's one of those things where an hour into the movie I was like, this movie's like Primer.

And then I was like, I want to tweet that. And then I'm just sitting there being like, I already know what I'm going to say about this movie. Can I leave? I just want to say, the last 15 minutes of Escape Room are so goddamn good. And genuinely, in a non-nerd way, give you the thrill of Nick Fury showing up at the end of Iron Man.

The ending of Escape Room is kind of amazing. Right, because they just immediately go, we're not ending this like a horror film. We're ending this like the greatest cinematic franchise of all time. And they build it out in a way where you're like, well, now I have to see 20 of these. I also love that girl who's in the Netflix Lost in Space.

I forget her name, but the lead. Who I worked with is a lovely actress. Oh, really? In a movie. One of the many films I've made that will probably never be released. For non-controversial reasons. For the controversial reason of no one liked it enough. Taylor Russell. She's a wonderful actress. Yeah, she's great. I knew her from the Netflix Lost in

Space, which was kind of bad, but whatever. You didn't know her from Hot Air? I didn't see Hot Air. I'll see it if you give me a cut. Will never happen. Give me a cut. It will never happen. Give me a DVD. It will never happen. Guess what I play? The intern.

The assistant. You're Steve Coogan's assistant. I know. I wear a tie. You told me like eight Steve Coogan stories which is all

I wanted. You mostly did that movie to tell me a few Steve Coogan stories. I did. I also had a cold during the entirety

of that movie. It was right after the tick right? Yeah. It was after season one? Yeah. We got to start. We got to start. Okay. If someone came out entirety of that movie. It was right after The Tick, right? It was after season one? Yeah. All right.

We got to start. We got to start. Okay. If someone came out and just read the script that we just said verbatim at the real Oscars, they'd kill. Yeah. I don't know what ABC is talking about. Why they cut all our time for chit chat.

Yeah. Yeah. This would rule. What if? I've been listening to the taxi theme song a lot. People just sitting there in stunned silence. Paul Schrader lights himself on fire. Academy President John Bailey just reading a transcript of the blank.

It's that script on the prompter as Julia Roberts is going, scroll through, scroll through, scroll through, scroll through, keep going. God. All right. Are we starting with best supporting actor like we usually do? I think we do. Let's do it.

Best supporting actor of the year. Who's presenting? Our winners from last year. Our winners from last year. Griffin, your winner was Patrick Stewart and Logan. Of course it was. Who would be a fun presenter? Yeah.

Yeah. Gravitas. Yes. My winner was the obvious winner. Willem Dafoe in The Florida Project. The best performance of last year. One of the most enduring movies. Okay, it's an opinion. Your winner was Michael Stuhlbarg. Call me by

your name. This is a good three. It's a good trio. The Wrecking Crew. The Wolfpack. The Wolfpack, yes. The Wolfpack is back. The three of them, like, can't buddy Brad. Related character actors. And Willem Dafoe was also the Reddit winner. Okay, so Patrick Stewart comes out and he's doing

his famous quadruple take. Michael Stahlberg is speaking a very crisp diction and Willem Dafoe is eating a live rabbit. They are presenting Best Supporting Actor. They read off my nominees

for Best Supporting Actor. Patrick reads it off after doing the quadruple take. The rarely seen quadruple take. And the nominees for best supporting actor, and just a preface, I'm going wild this year, baby. My nominees for best supporting actor are Brendan Gleeson for Paddington 2. Wow, we're starting off right there.

Richard E. Grant in Can You Ever Forgive Me? Michael B. Jordan in Black Panther. Tim Blake Nelson in The Ballad of Buster Scruggs. And Corey Hawkins for Black Klansman. That is a great scene.

Plays Kwame Ture. Great scene. An incredible scene. This is what I love about your nominations, Griffin. You make me think. You make me realize that there are performances that I hadn't considered. I'm going outside the box. Stick up for performances that I didn't like. I'm all for it. Also, Griff was a grump about 2018, so I feel like your faves are going to be-

I love my faves this year. I'll say this. I was a grump about more movies this year, but the things I love, I'm going to the mat. For me, 2018 was the, I loved a few movies, and I liked a ton of movies. Like, a lot of movies, but only a few loves. I can say this in a voice. Oh, no, okay. So now Michael Stahlberg's stepping up. Yeah, Stuhlbarg Stuhlbarg

takes a second to get real. He sits down because we're going to take a second. Sit down on a comfortable level. This is tough. I had seven that I couldn't budge from forever. You were tweeting the other night, and I'll say one of the seven that you were tweeting, you didn't know who to cut. I would argue that one of those seven was a lead contender. So I'm curious to see if you kept them in or not.

Oh, we're going to have this argument, but okay. We're going to have a lot of category arguments. Just what I love. I figured because two of these people have been talked about a lot. Two of these people are Oscar nominees that I feel like they've got their due. Sam Elliott in Stars Born. Richard E. Grant, can you ever forgive me? I'm going to leave them aside.

Because you want to fight for your guys. I want to fight for my guys. I got Sam Elliott in Stars Born. Richard E. Grant, Can You Ever Forgive Me? I'm going to leave them aside. Because you want to fight for your guys. I want to fight for my guys. I got Josh Hamilton in 8th grade. Great performer. I got Brian Tyree Henry in If Beale Street Could Talk. Great performer. Nikki Holt in The Favorite.

Nicholas. I call him Nikki. For a second, I thought you meant Nicola Holt from Transformers. Push me, Nicholas Holt, is to quote Rebecca Bonas. Alex Wolfe in Hereditary, who's the one we're going to argue about, I imagine. And then Steven Yeun in Burning. Yeah, I mean, The Gentleman's Fine.

Great. Stone Cold. Wolfe is not a lead, I don't think. I think he's a lead. Because he's not... No one's a lead in that movie except for Tony Clark. I think there are two leads

and we will get to that later. Jesus. All right. All right. My five. Sam Elliott in A Star is Born. I've heard of it. Yeah. By the way, this is going to be the me yelling about A Star is Born because I'm enraged at this point.

Apologies to my camp buddy, Brad. Steven Yeun in Burning. Michael G. Borden. Michael B. Jordan in Black Panther Brian Tyree Henry in If Beale Street Could Talk and Hugh Grant in Paddington 2 it's an obvious five I mean there's a zillion others I could pick there

and I'd like to read the blankies I have put together their nominees this year kindly submitted to me by Emilio Diaz from the subreddit their best supporting actor nominees are Sam Elliott, Star is Born, Brian Tyree Henry, If Beale Street Could Talk,

Michael B. Jordan, Black Panther, Steve-Yon Burning, Daniel Kaluuya, Widows. Daniel Kaluuya, Widows is one of those where it's like, I want it in there. Yeah.

It's very good. Where the fuck is Grant? Where the fuck is Hugh Grant? Where the fuck is... Oh, you know me. I gave that spot to Gleason. Gleason's great in that movie. The scene, the pivotal Gleeson scene

where he turns is one of the 40 best scenes in any film right not since the train came into the station right not since the workers left the factory if you're doing an NBA comp

like Julius Irving? Moses Malone? It's in the top 50. Okay, here's my argument. Muggsy Bogues? Here's my argument for Gleason over Grant. Because I knew that was going to be my hottest take this year. My argument for Gleason over Grant is he plays a character named

Knuckles McGinty. End of argument. What a great argument we just had. Here's my actual argument. I watched the film a second time with my family on Christmas Day. Knuckles McGinty end of argument what a great argument we just had no here's my actual argument okay I watched the film a second time with my family on Christmas day

I've seen the film I think five times I had to arm wrestle my family into watching it they thought this is some Griffin bullshit since then

to be fair to your family on the surface it seems like some Griffin bullshit agreed I had to argue this isn't only this is not exclusively

some Griffin bullshit transcends the usual Griffin bullshit right we watchedends the usual Griffin bullshit. We watched it on Christmas. My whole family is into it. They can't stop talking about the deuce. That's what they call it, the deuce P2. Everyone in my family is incensed that it got zero nominations.

I was re-watching the film and I was trying to pick am I going to go Gleeson or Grant on this re-watch and I said here's the thing I gotta give Gleeson the edge for. This is an impossible balancing act he does which is you genuinely believe

that he is a dangerous convict sure there is actual menace to this performance right and tension that he might murder Paddington

and what would that even look like I'm not really afraid that he's gonna murder never goes too far in a children film Better Call a Priest is one of the best

like one liners in that movie though yeah when youliners in that movie, though. When you introduce him in that movie, you go, this guy's probably in prison for murder. Right? And somehow he doesn't ruin the entire movie by bringing too much intensity. He's walking a fine line. And he's making a sweet marmalade. He's making a sweet marmalade.

I think he's great. It's just that Hugh Grant, it's just one of those things where he comes into the movie, he's a boss bitch. It's a skill piece. He's doing a lot of bits. He does like 18 monologues in various... But he's also playing a man, that man's vulnerability so well.

Yes. Like from minute one, from when Paddington says the thing to him on stage. Yeah. It is obviously an amazing meta commentary on Hugh Grant. Yes. And then at the end of the movie, he's like, why don't i just do a sondheim number in case you forgot that i'm incredible in this i'll say this this is a year where there are no nominees presented by either of you or the

blankies that i disagree with yeah these would be my next like people. Like Hamilton, Grant, Elliot, Tyree Henry. These would all be my next bunch. This year had too many good supporting actor performances, and I chose to double down and fight for my guys. Listen, and also counterpoint, say, the Oscars, Sam Rockwell and Vice. Like, there's none of that bullshit in this room. I'm shaking my head.

None of that in this room. I'm SMH-ing over here. I think all three of us agree. Sam Rockwell and Vice does what he's asked to do for a minute and a half. It's a funny scene. His two scenes are funny that I remember. But it's not even that impressive of a W impersonation.

No, I think it's good. But it's like, for that performance to be that small in a movie that's that sloppy, it has to be transcendent for me to go, that deserves a slot in the five. Get out of town.

Get out of the town. Out of the whole town. Who was the very obvious snub that like the Oscar, who was like sixth there? Well, it was Chalamet who you did not like. But like there's a whole,

there's a whole ocean. They snubbed the guy you wanted to get left out for the other guy you wanted not to get out. No, but there was someone I was rooting for to sort of... Well, Michael B. Jordan.

We were all holding out hope. For some reason, didn't catch fire. And by the way, I still think he might win. I know I made that prediction a couple months back. I still think he might win. I love Richard E. Grant, to be clear. I think that's a great performance. A gentleman.

Sam Elliott I swear to God Richard E. Grant has been the only person who feels like has been making awards season better for their presence

in it everybody else who's been getting attention it's been for negative reasons he's the Paddington of Oscar season like you feel like

he's improving everyone he touches yeah no I know I like it he's kind and polite he makes everything right who's your winner

my winner is Tim Blake Nelson. Oh, well, then shout him out. Yeah. Give him a, you know. So you want to talk about like your argument. I think he's great in that. First of all, pure supporting performance. Of course.

Right? Because it's like one segment in the film. Well, every one of the movies is a supporting performance. Right. Right. Yeah. But what I love about this performance is it's kind of my Grant argument where you go like, I feel like I take Tim Blake Nelson for granted because I always go, well, he's

just this weirdo type and he comes in and he's a good flavor. Yeah. He's like a seasoning on the dish. I listened to his WTF and like totally forgot. You're saying you locked the gates? I locked the gates with TBN. I had to think. Right.

And like, I totally forgot that he's like a Juilliard trained, like hyper intellectual Oklahoma Jew. Right. Who sounds nothing like his characters. Right. He's not like, oh, how you doing, Mark?

All you get is dirty. Right. It's my favorite Tim Blake Nelson line in Minority Report. Yes. Dig up the past, all you get is dirty. Right, because he so often plays

like slow creeps, which he does really well. I think the first time I knew of him was Oh Brother. I'm trying to think if I had seen him in any. That was his first really big acting. Yeah that's the first thing I remember He was mostly a playwright and a director and everything before that but I was just listening to him talk

about Buster Scruggs and he was just underlying not like patting himself on the back way but he was talking about why it's hard to work with the Coens and he was like their language is super super flowery. Of course. And super specific. They kind of need people who are theatrically trained

because you really need to understand the rhythms of it. I had to learn guitar from scratch because I'm actually playing guitar in all those scenes. I had to horseback ride. I had to skill shoot. The shooting. And I was like, wow. I had to turn into an angel and float into the sky.

Right. Yeah, you had to do all that in camera. but i was watching that performance and laughing for 10 straight minutes i was like this is the funniest thing anyone's done in years and then i listened to this podcast i was like i was not appreciating how much work went into that yeah and once again what an impossible line he's towing he's playing a guy who's so casual he's just like when i'm buster scruggs but his language is all those monologues he's in such control and all the fucking physicality of him I mean the

bit with him fucking hitting the slat in the table I mean that's like all this shit is incredible I just think it's a meticulous technically like impeccable performance that also is the funniest thing I've seen I can't wait to see Tim on stage next year yeah sending this award it's gonna be great so mine was tough between,

first of all, I think I am on the road to making Nicholas Holt the Amy Adams of the Blankies. Absolutely. I'm going to keep nominating him, but he's not quite the win yet. Yeah.

You did give him the win for Mad Max. Oh, I did. You gave him the Mad Max. Never mind. He got it first out of the gate. He was the, someone who won

their first nomination. Yeah. Alicia Vikander? Alicia Vikander. Yeah. My Alicia Vikander. That was the other part of my dream. My other part of my dream was that Alicia Vikander was going to win again. And we were all like, how did that happen twice?

Just like, oof. Okay. I love her. Because it was like for the Danish girl part two. She should win for Tomb Raider. She should. That's a great performance. She's going to win.

That's maybe number eight on my list. It's a color puzzle. It's a color puzzle. Joe, who's your winner? Mine is Alex Wolfe for Hereditary. Okay. Interesting. Do we want to talk about this now or do we want to talk about this when you bring up your

lead actors? my winner is Stephen Young for Burning which is maybe the performance of the year an actor I've always thought was fine

did you watch Walking Dead? I've watched Walking Dead for many years because of my job in the content industry like an actor i've always thought was fine like did you watch walking down walk watch walking for many years because of my job in the content industry yeah very likable on walking dead but i was never like this is a fucking actor and his uh spoiler scene in burning is the greatest i've never seen anyone play spoilering that well sure oh yeah never yeah never sure never it's really well done i can't believe it really well 18 million emotions go across his eyes yes this is a guy who has been so remote that you're like is he just like a rich jerk or is he a psychopath right and he's been playing that you know keeping you guessing so and then at the end of the movie you're just like

holy shit like he everything is suddenly coming to the surface with this guy. It's a very good point. I'll say this. I never watched Walking Dead, so I've only been introduced to him. He's in like Okja and like the supporting roles. This guy's really interesting, but everyone else is mostly talking about his performances through the prism of like, oh, it's so different than Glenn. Right. Right.

I walked out of Burning. I had such a conundrum of just like, am I just really attracted to Steven Yeun or is he the greatest actor? And you know what? He's a gorgeous guy. Both of them.

Very handsome. And he uses it so well. Boy, is he hot. My Burning review got incredible traffic on The Atlantic, which is weird for a, you know,

already South Korean film that's almost three hours long. And I'm certain it's because I picked a very sexy picture of Steven Yeun. There's no shortage of those two. But that's another one where you watch The Walking'm certain it's because i picked a very sexy picture of steven young there's no shortage of those two but you would that's another one where you watch the walking dead and it's just like i'm not hot for glenn like i don't understand and then you watch

burning you're just a little hot for glenn now i am i mean probably retroactively that's the one he's with yeah yes you're yes all right uh and the blankies chose daniel kaluuya well he's fantastic in that movie i mean he he's good at staring at folks he's goodaluuya. Well, he's fantastic in that movie. I mean, he... He's good at staring at folks. He's good at staring at folks, but he's also like, he is so good at like, like that could just be a one-dimensional Terminator.

And instead, I like, I mean, that's my, we'll get to it. It's a movie I really love this year. The one-dimensional Terminator? Great movie. Terminator Flatland. Just like, he's bored.

He's not into this. Yeah, he's not into it. That's him going to watch TV while they attack. He's just like, I don't know why you want to do politics. There's no joy left for him. Yeah. And he's just like back. He's ruined, you know, from war and from whatever else has happened to him.

He's bored to shit. Yeah. And he's trying to make it interesting every time that else has happened to him and he's bored to shit and he's trying to make it interesting every time that he has to do a scary thing and you can see him being like

I'm kind of happy yeah and then at the end he's finally excited and that's what doesn't mean anyway alright

best supporting actress hey here are last year's winners Griffin Newman selected Holly Hunter in the big sick Classic Griff pick

AKA Griffin's mom Southern style David Sims picked Laurie Metcalf As did Joe Reed and the Blankies Laurie triple win The year of the mom One of the great performances Agreed which only has been topped by her work

On the Connners this season. My nominees for best supporting actress, she has, I'm not joking. My nominees for best supporting actress are Hailey Lou Richardson,

Support the Girls. She's so good at that. Dolly Wells, Can You Ever Forgive Me, a performance everyone should be talking about. Great performance. Zoe Kazan,

The Ballad of Buster Scruggs. Elizabeth DeBecky in Widows, and Sakura Ando in Shoplifters. That's a lead performance, my friend. Well, that's my one category where I'm being a little tricky. You're being tricky because that's a lead performance. I'd argue it's an ensemble film

much like you're arguing with Hereditary. The parents are the leads. I would argue the dad's the lead and everyone else is supporting. If she wasn't with the cops at the end, I'd be with you, but no. She's the lead of the movie. But the problem is, her with the cops at the end is what gets her the nomination. Yeah, she's the lead. Catch 22.

We'll talk about her later. Okay. In lead acting. Oh, interesting. Okay. If you guys are ready to argue about lead versus supporting, do I have a lineup for you? We got some. Okay, ready?

Supporting actress, let's go. Supporting actress, Olivia Colman in The Favorite. She was my number six. If I put her in, she was going to be in Supporting, so I agree 100%.

We'll talk about it in a second. Elizabeth Debicki in Widows. Regina King in If Beale Street Could Talk. Molly Parker in

Madeline's Madeline. Great performance. Joe Pick. Great performance. Classic Joe Pick. Classic Joe Pick. Classic Joe Pick, even to the point that I

don't know if I even love the movie. to the point that I don't know if I even love the movie but she's fantastic I love that movie Rachel Weisz in the favorite she rules Coleman

Coleman, Debicki, King, Parker Rachel Weisz okay I got Elizabeth Debicki in Widows yes three for the only one

okay Haley Lou Richardson in Support the Girl okay Regina King in If Beale Street Could Talk mm-hmm Blake Lively in A Simple Favor. Wow!

There you go. Wow! And Michelle Yeoh in Crazy Great Asians. That's a great one, too. Are you gonna arrest David for stealing two Joe picks for his own category? Those are two very Joe-esque selections. Those are two real Joe picks. Here's the thing, though. Well, no, because I love The Shallows. I was gonna say, like,

Blake had never been, I had never been on the shallows. I was going to say like, Blake had never been, I had never been on the Blake train, but the shallows, I sort of, I bought like a one way ticket, you know, I was like, the shallows isn't exactly a performance.

Like now I have like a season pass. I would disagree. I think, I mean, obviously the masterful directing of John Colasera, but I also think that that's an incredible performance. That was the first time I believed in her as an actor. She's good,

but I feel like the thing about The Shallows is also the shark jumping out of shallow water and eating that person. And also, guys, look. It's 2019. Okay? We shouldn't be talking about this because we're far from The Shallows now. Yes, true. Best Supporting Actress.

We're far from The Shallows now. It's the law. There's no doubt. In The Shallows. The Best Supporting Actress as chosen by the Blankies. Elizabeth DeBecke in Wid now. The law. There's no doubt. In the Shalos. The best supporting actress as chosen by the Blankies, Elizabeth DeBecky in Widows, the only person of all four, Regina King at Beale Street

could talk, Hayley Lou Richardson support the girls, Emma Stone the favorite, Rachel Weisz the favorite. I should say, Hayley Lou Richardson was a close sixth on mine.

Star she is. It's deceptively good too because it's surfacy is just like, oh, she's just very bubbly. Right. And like and like that i mean obviously the scene where she pops out of the back door and sets off the little pop gun uh next to regina hall is took me by such surprise i cackled i in delight well and here's like a child i used to argue for the the skill of that performance it's a very well written film yes right andrew patowski

very good writer but that is a performance where you could hire someone who was just bubbly and they would service the film well right that character does not need to be played as skillfully as it is everything that elevates that character is what she's contributing to the film and you look at her in that last scene where they're all up on the roof and it's, oh, it's so good. And it's also, I hate actors who clearly play unintelligent or unsophisticated characters

with condescension. Yes, with contempt. You can tell, I think this character is dumb and she is clearly locked into what is great about this person who just sees the world

so clearly and so joyously around her. It's a wonderful performance. She's the movie star tomorrow. Is she your winner? She is not. Who's your winner? My winner is

Sakuranda for Shoplifting. Incredible performance. Category fraud. But that final scene, that's the performance of the year for me. That final scene with her talking to the police,

when she starts rubbing her face, it blew my mind because I go, how does any actor come up with that choice? The best scene of, like, in a movie this year, beating the marmalade scene, where she hugs the girl.

Yes, this is what love feels like. Oh boy, I need a break. That's an incredible performance, and I'm being tricky and giving her Best Supporting Actress because I want to give her an award. You're a fucking trickster. I'm a fucking trickster. Do we use the Debicki of it all here to talk about why Widows didn't do it? Yeah, it'll come up more, certainly, on this episode.

It just makes me so mad. I think that movie's too frosty for people, for some people. It's too Michael Manning. McQueen's never going to be all that populist. But don't you feel like... This is him being popular. Right. This is his version of it.

Don't you think they Fox Searchlight who are usually very smart about these things kind of settled on the boast of It's not Fox Searchlight.

It's Fox. It's Fox. It's Big Fox. So that's maybe the key. Because they did a sort of like neither nor kind of worst of both worlds marketing

campaign because the marketing was like dark and intense and like big block letters and you know a lot of like washed up black backgrounds right just actors and you're like what is this but i also think they made it look like for mainstream audiences it was like this looks like too heady and like some oscar bullshit and for Oscar people, it looked too much like a thriller. I feel like there's a world in which they could have just really put together a

false advertising campaign for that movie and gotten a $20 million opening weekend. And it would have dropped like a stone afterwards, but it would have ended up with a higher total. It would have gotten more people to see it. Where do you think it ended? Or I think they could have platformed it. Where do I think it ended? Or I think they could have platformed it. Where do I think it ended? Yeah, they probably should have.

45? Yeah, 42. It's too bad. Anyway, Widows fucking rules. We're going to be talking about Widows a lot, but who's your winner? Tabiki comes close, but it's Vice. It's Rachel Vice.

She's the best person. She's the best performance and the favorite. She's so incredibly watchable and funny, but you never see her going for the joke, but she's so, so freaking funny in that. Good way of putting it. Romley saw the favorite and just said, so she's just the coolest person in the world.

And I was like, that's pretty much a good summation. When you dress her that way too, you know, it's like, just everything she does is cool. I'm so glad she has endured. Yeah.

I was really worried she was going to be the one of the three left out when I saw that movie. Me too. Me too. But it also feels like was going to be the one of the three left out when I saw that movie. Me too. But it also feels like when... It's only her second Oscar nominee. Right. When she got nominated

and won for Constance Gardner, that felt like a comeback because it was like, oh, that lady from The Mummy? She sort of disappeared for a couple years. Still a weird win.

A very weird win. Well, it's weird. It's a weird sweep. She like swept that year. Yeah, she was the winner. She was like, almost immediately, everyone was like, it's her. And the thing about that year was like swept that year. Yeah, she was the winner. She was like almost immediately everyone was like it's her. And the thing about that year was it was a lot of new – it was Vice's first.

Amy Adams. Amy Adams' first. Wait, there was a third. Michelle Williams' first. Oh, right. All that year. And it was the whole – in the early stages it was like, oh, who of this sort of – and Keener was nominated that year. who of this sort of, and Keener was nominated that year, and it's like, who of this

massive, interesting, newish sort of presences on the Oscar stage, at least, is going to emerge? I don't think anyone was predicting Vice, and then Vice won literally everything. It does feel like she was one of those people where you go, ooh, this is someone who might fall prey to the best supporting actress curse, and then she's had

a robust career. She's consistently done interesting fucking work since winning an Oscar. My winner's Elizabeth Bickey. What a performance! robust career. And she's consistently done interesting fucking work since winning an Oscar. Yep. My winner's Elizabeth Becky. Yeah. What a performance! She's phenomenal. The gun show scene.

And the fucking auction scene. The blankies also chose Elizabeth Becky. I mean, I fought so hard for that at the Critics Circle. That last, oh, I wish.

And that's a real star is born performance. I mean, we're obviously hit people. We've been wise to Becky for a while, but this is one of those performances where you go

like you can't fucking deny this thing she's a powerhouse I'm trying to think of the first thing I remember seeing her in because it was before Gatsby

was what I remember seeing her for Gatsby that's what it was and where I was like who is that but like how tall is she

Man From U.N.C.L.E. she's fantastic she's my height Guardians she's fantastic rules in Guardians. Sorry, I'm putting Guardians. People don't stand for that legend.

Incredible in the tale this year. Incredible performance. A very difficult performance to navigate. Night Manager. Night Manager, she's amazing. I mean, that show didn't have enough Night Manager. Apart from that, she was fantastic. Except for my taste.

She and Hollander, I think, are the highlights of Night Manager. Like, everybody's good in that. Everyone's like... I forget who tweeted this, and someone retroactively applied the credit where credit is due, but one of our critic friends tweeted after Widows, one of the reasons why Widows rules so hard is it's the first movie to just let Elizabeth Debicki be 6'3". Yeah, let her be tall. Right. Because I remember James watching The Night Manager and being like,

this Elizabeth Debicki, she's the next movie star, but how do you put her in movies when she's that tall? What do you do with her? And Steve McQueen was like, just let her be that tall. She's a tall, fragile bird in this movie. That becomes a strong bird. Just want to say some other things. One, Lucas Haas is amazing

in Widows. He didn't make my list, but it's a great performance and a crucial character. And what a surprise. A crucial character, yes. With that many big movie stars on the poster, you don't expect Haas to get that much of a meaty role. I remember Mike Ryan telling me that when he interviewed Steve McQueen, who famously can be tetchy

in an interview. You know, can be like... Oh, he's a garbage man. New York Film Critics Circle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People can look that up armand why you called him a garbage yeah i want to make it clear that i'm not calling yeah i know i think he's a fine director yeah he's a great director uh mike ryan brought up the lucas hosting and steve mcclure was like no one has asked me about him he is so important like i'm

so happy you know it was like clapping and was me anyway uh blake lively in a simple favor people like lively hello i will say the the praise for blake live in that movie because in Anyway, Blake Lively in a simple favor, people. Blake Lively. Hello. She's doing a lot. I will say the praise for Blake Lively in that movie because in my sort of gayer Twitter circles, there was a lot of people on the Blake Lively train to the point where I was like, but Anna Kendrick. Because I also think Anna Kendrick is doing really good work and deceptively good work in that movie. But yeah, Lively is a glamorous fashion plate psycho. Like, I- Well put.

I shamefully, as taking my bagel out of its bag an hour into this episode, reveal that I still have not seen A Simple Favor. You gotta see it. Oh, it's good. Simple Favor, sorry. Michelle Yeoh, I mean, like- We stand a legend. We stand a legend. We stand a legend.

You know, it is, it's sort of like, what do you, you know, it's like an elegance performance. It's like a, she can do that shit in her sleep. It doesn't matter. Right. You need the scene, the two,

the movie revolves around the scene of her. The opening and the mahjong? Yeah. I would say the scene of her on the staircase where she's sort of like, you think you're winning me over and you have failed. You know, like, you know what, where she says, like like you think you're winning me over and you have failed you know like you know where she says like you will never be good enough right sure and then

of course the mahjong scene but the opening the fucking hotel opening is unbelievable fantastic of course also yes the fact that she's the only movie star in the world who could have done that performance with that amount of star quality gravitas, she's the only person. Yes. And the movie is, in my opinion, and this is not even how to take it, it's a romantic comedy about fucking Constance Wu and Michelle Yeoh falling for each other.

Right. And that's why it ends with Henry Golding is literally just a puppet proposing with his mother's ring. Like, you know, like that, the mother is proposing to her. The weakest element of that movie is the romance between Constance and Henry Golding. Doesn't matter. There's a million movies like that with girls

who are like, and that's what Golding's doing and that's all I need from him. I need nothing else. I don't want drama from Henry It's a momantic comedy. Romantic comedy. I just want to throw in Molly Parker for one second. Sure. I love her.

We've seen that character that's sort of like flighty, too much of an actress character. Yeah. But she brings a Molly Parker darkness to it that you suspect her. You're saying she gives it an MPD. It's an MPD. Yeah, it's a classic MPD performance. She's got a little MPD on it. I don't know. She elevates so much

of that character. She gets some air. She gets some air in that. Do we want to do best actor? Who are our winners last year? Oh, I'm sorry. Here we go. The winners last year were for Griffin and David, Daniel Kaluuya in Get Out and The Blankies.

So good. And for Joe, Timothy, I was bad and beautiful boy, shall we? And call me by your name. Man. I know I'm being mean.

I think he's good and beautiful. I don't even think he's not bad. I think he's actively good. I think I tweeted something like he's grating and mannered. And someone. I think I tweeted something like, he's grating and mannered, and someone replied to me like, the only way he's grating and mannered is when he says, please and thank you

when the waiter is offering him Parmesan. To be fair, great joke. Great joke. I mean, a gentleman's joke. I'm stuck in my head for months. A gorgeous joke. What were you going to say, Joe?

I don't know I think that's not a great movie that he's the one great part of I like Carell in that movie it's the I'm the only person

with this opinion that is a hell to die on I like him in that movie I think he nails it wow that movie is about how if you have money it won't

money does not money can't help you stop drug addiction yeah yes whereas like Ben is Back which is another

kind of crummy movie on this topic is about how like drug addiction turns everyone into an addict like you know because it's about

how Julia Roberts is behaving like an addict she won't return her call you know what I mean she's like doing weird shit screaming at people in town right and I like the theme

of Ben is Back a little more Ben is Back a little more but I think Carell nails it I just think Ben is Boy was the best

of the three, and for me, I don't even want to talk about the others. Ben is a beautiful boy erased. Claire Foy narrates the whole thing in her... Beautiful Foy. Did you guys see Beautiful Foy? Beautiful Foy. Bunch of beautiful boys. Okay, best actor, I'm going to make a shotgun decision because there's six people, and I've

had a tough time, so I'm going to ask that you guys go, one of you goes first. Alright, I'm going to continue a shotgun decision because there's six people and i've had a tough time so i'm going to ask that you guys go one of you goes first all right i'm going to continue the theme of category confusion maher shala ali and green book wow throwing it down yeah i'll take it i mean i'll take that he's the lead but it's mostly the people don't like that movie but i think he's great i think you can't argue with his skill as an actor. He's great in a very different way than he's great in Moonlight. Right. That movie is a disaster if he's not in it. Oh, fully.

Because I think Viggo- It's almost a disaster with him in it. It is a disaster with him in it. But I'm saying no one would go for that movie if he wasn't doing his work. He brings so much integrity to that movie. And here's the thing. Viggo- And he's playing a character whose integrity matters to him so much.

Viggo's performance is good in that movie for what they're asking him to do. Fold a pizza in half and eat it. to him so much. Vigo's performance is good in that movie for what they're asking him to do, but also that movie would still work if fucking the guy who played Vito in The Sopranos was in that role. Andrew Dice Clay? I'm trying to think of a joke that's mean but someone I don't want to be mean to. Joe Reed? Sure.

You mean if I was just like, hey, fuck you, I'm from the Bronx! And I'm driving a car and that's the movie? If the movie was Sims like, hey, fuck you, I'm from the Bronx, and I'm driving a car, and that's the movie? If the movie was Sims and Mahershala Ali, it would still work as well as it does. Actual Mario from the video game? I think Viggo's good too, but I think that performance is a mad TV character.

It is. I mean, it is. It is. But then the thing is, the movie doesn't know how to reconcile any of that. You've seen Nick Vallelonga. Nick Vallelonga is... You are.

Your headphones off. You can rile up. Watching David Sims be animated is such a treat, I have to say. Listeners, you don't know. People don't understand how much he does Kermit arms while talking. But it's not... You don't talk with your hands. You talk with your elbows.

I do. I do. Nick Vallelonga is the... The hands are a byproduct. ...is the son of Tony. I'm aware. But even that guy, I'm like, that's a fucking Sopranos chiseler background character.

You're telling me that guy is real? Where he's like, hey, I did a song about New York for the firefighters. Have you listened to his firefighters? It's a masterpiece. Ben, play it right now. I think it's so weird.

Drop it in. Ben, drop it in. Drop it in, Benny. Drop it in. It's like, Times Square and Lincoln Center. There's so much to Ben, drop it in. Drop it in, Benny. Drop it in. It's like, Times Square and Lincoln Center. There's so much to do in New York. Like, that's what

it is. I'm thinking of a movie that's like a comedy. I want to say it's Analyze This, but I can't remember. Does De Niro have like henchmen in Analyze This who are like funny? Joe Vittaroli. Joe Vittaroli. One of the great... Jelly. The face of like a very full bagel. Like a very sort of like

yes yes indeed my friend yes indeed Joe Vitarelli looks like 18 pounds of gravel were shot into his face and his character is named

Jelly Joe Vitarelli is so fucking funny and analyze this we stand to jelly so that's the kind of guy I'm thinking of let's do the analyze

this franchise for our commentary you should this and that we're doing them you should what are you guys doing next? Oh, you know, a little this, a little that.

That'll be the one where I like. There's this scene where like De Niro rants at Chaz Palminteri for like a full minute in mob mode and Chaz Palminteri goes like, hey, like, well, I forget what his name is. Like, hey, Robert, fuck you. It's just so funny kenny loner again writer on analyze this yes although he said his script was thrown out he says he's also never watched it you remember when lisa kudrow hosted the mtv movie awards because she was promoting analyze it had already come out and she says to crystal like we made a hundred yes

we all that's what unites the three of us the reason why the three of us found each other in this dark world is that we all

held up a flare gun that said does anyone else ever remember when Lisa Kudrow said we made a hundred remember she was in a sketch

about the round table in Phantom Menace right but that opener was her with Dr. Evil and at the end Dr. Evil took off his Right. But that opener was her with Dr. Evil. Yes. And at the end, Dr. Evil took off his mask and revealed that he was actually Billy Crystal.

Sounds great. They were in Dr. Evil's volcano base. All right. So after Marshall. Oh, shit. We're still in the middle. Okay, okay, okay. Bradley Cooper in A Star is Born.

Oh, yeah. Good performance. I'm going to leave my third one to the last because it's a Griffin pick. My camp buddy, Brad. Ethan Hawken first reformed. Lakeith Stanfield in sorry to bother you and in the griffinist i will get on this ballot tom hardy and venom wow yeah ready baby wow ethan hawken first reformed very similar to you yeah bradley bradley mias cooper Jackson Maine in A Star Is Born. Yes. Ben Foster.

Good pick. In Leave No Trace. Good pick. John Cho in Searching. Great pick. Tom Hardy in Venom. Yes. Three for three.

Three for three. Three for three. So do you remember when... A no-brainer, in my opinion. Do you remember when... A no-fucking-brainer. He's great I cannot believe the only competition

was Brian King he came on late Brian King was like put me in the fucking category with like a spear go on do I remember I cannot believe do you remember when you had seen Venom and I said is Tom Hardy gonna win my blankies this year and you said no but

you're definitely gonna nominate him I am the only one who I said, is Tom Hardy going to win my blankies this year? And you said, no, but you're definitely going to nominate him. I am the only one who didn't. Your rules. And not only that, when I said like shotgun decision, I'm picking between six. He's not even in my 10. Well,

it's a, it's, it's a weirdly, it's an odd category this year. From an Oscar perspective, it's uncrowded. Correct. Like they were almost reaching for people,

but there are good performances. We got to look in the more sort of like, you know, weirdo genre movies. Tom Cruise was my mess. Correct. Like they were almost reaching for people. But there are good performances that were never in the conversation. We gotta look in the more sort of like you know weirdo genre movies. Tom Cruise was my miss. Okay so here's my list and I'll tell you what my sixth miss was and I wish I could have found a space for him because I think it's an interesting performance that no one's talking about. Yeah. Joaquin Phoenix who

were never really here. I think that's a great one. Alex Wolfe Hereditary. Tommy Cruise Mission Impossible Fallout. Sure. Adam Driver Black Klansman. A lead, I say. A co-lead. He's great in that movie. A split.

He is great in that movie. Lead, Adam Driver. He is the puppet. For Black Klansman. He is the puppet. I say a co-lead. No puppet. No puppet.

And my fifth nominee is Lakeith Stanfield. Sorry to bother you. Which is a good performance. My sixth guy who I want to sneak in, they're John C. Reilly and the Sisters Brothers. Get him in there. And he's really also good in the Laurel and Hardy movie in a way that he's way better than anything in that movie should be.

I think Coogan's good in that. I think they're both good. Reilly bugged me in that movie. Well, it was just... Actually, I think all four lead, because also Shirley Henderson and Nina Ariander. They're good. Anyway, sorry, go ahead.

Who do I lose to put Riley in? Driver. He's not a lead. He's not. I'm sorry. He's not. Every year, I talk about how good Adam Driver is, and then I always knock him out of my categories

at the last second. So it's residual guilt here. It is, and I kind of want to put Riley in above him. He's been in my lineup for like three of the last four years. I apologize, Adam. I'm knocking you out for the third year in a row. John C. Riley is my fifth nominee for best actor.

You tweeted that you would vote for John David Washington in the sacks. Yes. From that group. Yeah. Yeah. But I didn't nominate any of the best actors. I understand. I just thought he might make that.

John David Washington missed out at the last second for Defoe and Eddie Turnage's Gate, who's not bad, but like is not in any way necessary. Putting Defoe over Hawke and Washington seemed odd to me. Yeah. I don't know. Weird. It's stupid. Yeah. Okay, winners. Oh, let me read the blankies. Oh, yeah. The blankies chose, that's

Hulu where I've been watching King of the Hell. The blankies chose, I was trying to find the right But Netflix is where you're watching Taxi or is it all on Hulu? Both on Hulu. I'm a Hulu of the Hell. The Blankies shows, I was trying to find the right app. But Netflix is where you're watching Taxi? Or is it all on Hulu? Both are on Hulu. I'm a Hulu guy these days. I'm sticking with the green. Best actor.

Fuck, I reopened my own list. Best actor from The Blankies is Bradley Cooper from Bunk 3, A Star is Born. Tom Cruise, Mission Impossible, Fallout. Ben Foster, Leave No Trace. Ryan Gosling, First Man. Good performance. Ethan Hawke first reform Who are our winners? As much as I feel

Often left out of the enthusiasm For first reformed I like get it on an intellectual level But I don't feel like I don't know It's a club that's not for me Ethan Hawke's my number one Wow

Bradley Cooper Wow Obviously Like People will weep in shame Not for me. Ethan Hawke's my number one. Wow. Bradley Cooper. Wow. Obviously. Like, people will weep in shame. John Bailey's last thought as he dies will be, what the fuck was going on with Star is Born? What the fuck happened there? I'm going to walk the walk.

Joaquin Phoenix, best actor. You love that movie. I love that movie. I'm all in. I love that movie. I'm all in. You hate that movie? This is not a surprise. Oh, boy.

I hate all of the scumbag movies that you... Right, you hated Good Time, too. I hated Good Time. You hated Good Time, too. Get out of here. Ben, come on. I'm going to get my hammer out. Ben just took out a flaming sword?

What about the cards? Ben, no. Oh. You might want to throw a joke. Here's a hammer card for you. That's what he means when he says the hammer. The Blankies chose

Ethan Hawke for Best Actor as well. That was the Critics Circle almost unanimous. It just felt like that was going to be the sort of

Lifetime Achievement award this year. He's got a lot of lifetime ahead of him. He does. He does. But I mean, he's been working

for so long. I've nominated him like 50 billion times. I love Ethan Hawke. He's like my favorite actor. Can I tell you, he was on my long list for best supporting actor for why am I forgetting the fucking name of it now? I don't know. Julia Naked? Yes.

Oh, sure. I was going to say Love, Rosie. I like it when he when he plays, you know, kind of like. He's really good in that and it's kind of him doing the meta. Like I'm acknowledging what my reputation was.

Troy Dyer had actually made a success of himself at some point. Maggie's plan, basically. She's really good in that too. But he's just so fucking funny in Juliet Naked.

Yeah, no, he is. Yeah. I love Hawk. Yeah. I love Hawk. You love Hawk.

But are you kidding? I've nominated him seven times. Jesus Christ. Wow. That's crazy. Wait, what are the seven I want to hear? Well, you know what? It's six times because John Hawks was getting included in my, and two of them are screenplays.

But you know. Is it two of the three before? So the two Sunrise you nominated for screenplays, the last two? Correct. And then what are your other nominees? He's not credited as a screenwriter on the first one. So it's four acting nominations correct

Training Day nope no love him in that yeah Salt and Precinct 13 I'll just tell you Valerian in the City of a Thousand Planets

I'm trying to think of the other performances you would have nominated it's First Reform Boyhood Before Midnight and Before Sunset it's not even that complicated it's pretty straightforward

so good Bradley Cooper's the best actor get out of here I'm mad about this look this is a good time to announce that he of course Pretty straightforward. So good. Bradley Cooper's the best actor. Get out of here. I'm mad about this. Look, this is a good time to announce that he, of course, won Putters and Murmurs this year. I have a whole thing for Putters and Murmurs. I have like several nominations. We'll get into it.

I mean, there are other good contenders this year. I just want to give him that credit because you texted me several months ago, Joe. I did, several months ago. And you said, is this going to be the first year that the Academy Award winner for Best Actor also wins Putters and Murmurs? Right. Those two never line up. We felt so confident this was going to be his year. It wasn't even a thing where I was like, it's because I love the movie so much.

I was more just sort of like, yeah, obviously. I also agree with you that he's the undeniable alum of that movie. And you know, I have my reservations against that movie. Ridiculous reservations. I've watched it so many times. Kind of an embarrassing amount of times. It rules. Yeah, I have my reservations against that movie. Ridiculous reservations. I've watched it so many times. Kind of an embarrassing amount of times. It rules. Yeah, I know.

I love it. It's like your Teen Titans go to the movies. But I watched that and that movie basically cured my plane anxiety for 82 minutes or however long it is. It rules. So good. Such good jokes. Such a blast. Have you seen it yet?

Because I was not aware it no because I wasn't I was not aware of it I didn't know what Teen Titans was first of all once again a gentleman's 82 with credits which is always a pleasure I love that

I do love that the jokes are just unbelievable the on set bathroom scene great I like I like the song

with the pink balloon man balloon man that's fucking funny alright wait did we say our winners we said our winners Cooper Hawk The song with the pink balloon man. Balloon man. That's fucking funny. Yeah, all right. Wait, did we say our winners? We said our winners.

We said our winners, yes. Hawk. Hawk. Guacamole. Joaquin Penis, as we used to say on our trivia team. That's right. Yeah. I know you think he's a ham sandwich.

No, you fall between Joe and I in that movie. I think it's great. I also think it's a good performance by him, but the performance by him I prefer this year is The Sisters Brothers. Interesting. I think that is something I hadn't seen from him in years which is like kind of a genuinely funny performance that actually isn't that big i was worried he

was gonna be like it's person you know usual cartoon self in that yeah i just like i mean riley's great in it too look it's not like uh you never really hear is a performance that i didn't think he could do or that I the type I have not seen him do before but I think he does everything so well and I think there's one basic decision that sums up like how smart that performance is

which is that he gained a bunch of weight like that he knew it was more menacing to just be a brick than to be ripped yeah you know what I'm saying though like he was just like those guys in real life it was more menacing to just be a brick than to be ripped. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm saying though? Like he was just like those guys in real life aren't like cut.

Right. They're just like a mound. They're like the juggernaut. Right. And they'll just sort of like push you. Right. Best actress. Best actress.

Just want to say Tom Hardy rules. Yeah. I mean I can't believe I didn't go all in for that. Outrageous really. I'm genuinely shocked I here's the reason it's just weird that the blank I almost left him off of mine because I was like well

Griffin will have him I just hate that movie so much I agree that his performance is wonderful I was so pre-sold on it being terrible yeah that it it soared over my expectations genuinely I was like this is, I'm enjoying myself for some stretches of this movie. Okay. My take on that movie, and I think I said this

in previous episodes, it feels like a movie made in a world where Ben Affleck's Daredevil is the only other superhero movie that's ever been made. And they were like,

so that's what you do, right? Yeah. Also, talk about blenders. I feel like this has not gotten enough attention.

Tom Hardy with the tater tots in Venom is the ultimate blender it serves no plot purpose it doesn't tell you anything about the character is there gonna be yeah

right he just clearly was like come on I want a specific let's make a tater tots two other things I want to say about Mike Foster in Leave No Trace who got like

that's an actor who struggles or I struggle with cause he's so big so often he goes hard he goes real hard and we've talked

I've talked about it many times in Hostiles when he shows up my reaction in the audience is sort of shoot him in the head bury him where he sits do not risk it

don't take this man one foot he's gonna eat your teeth yeah and then and we all of course remember Maldith the sorcerer in Warcraft.

That's a great performance. I mean, that was just, that was, you know, verite. They just went to his house. The shirtless sculptor with long flowing golden locks. He's good in this in the way he's good in the messenger, though. And that like. That's my favorite performance of his. Oh, man.

He's better when you tell him to do less. And to his credit, he said that he took like a fucking tell him to do less and to his credit he said that he took like a fucking razor blade to this script and said to Debra Granik I want as little dialogue as possible and they cut it down together

the scene that he murders is the scene where he says nothing at all which is when he's doing the personality test and you can just see him wrestling with like what do they think of me

and what do I think of myself and what am I supposed to say here that's his nomination oh my god and then John cho and searching is just bravura i mean that man has to own the screen for the entire time no question in my 10 that movie is such an odd bird for me i think you're right that cho is very very good and like it grounds what is to be grounded in that movie it's just such a strange execution and concept and everything that's going on. It was really well written.

I kept on feeling like it was going to fall into traps. And then I felt like they handled everything pretty well. Also, that ending is screaming at you from the end of a hallway. So it was just like, it's happening. It's going to happen. It surprised me.

It totally got me. To me, it was that Roger Ebert thing thing of like is there a character who serves no purpose in this movie and it's like i fucking who keeps showing up for no reason yeah yeah i fucking loved it that movie was such a delight i saw it in a theater with emma stefanski like at the regal union square not a press screening we just that's where i saw it i actually just had a great time with joey Joey Sims At the Regal Union Square Best director No actress

Oh we forgot to do actress I'm sorry I will do actress last because it's the most important category Hey Give us the winners from last year The winners from last year are I forgot them Griffin's was Vicky Creeps Flying up a creep for us

In Phantom Thread. David's was Saoirse Ronan and Lady Boyd. Joe's was Meryl Streep and The Post. Wow. Loved and still loved. And the Blankies went for Hawkins

and Shape of Water. They spread the wealth around. I mean, those are all four good winners. It's a quartet. They're all emerging. It's the four quadrants of stage that converge. Okay, here's my best actress.

Toni Collette, hereditary. Melissa McCarthy, can you ever forgive me? Regina Hall, support the girls. Eva Malander, border. A movie I haven't seen. Show and I saw together. The troll movie. A movie that literally fucks.

Yes. Yes. The sex scene of the year. In real interesting ways. Sex scene of the year. Yeah. haven't seen show and i saw together the troll movie a movie that literally fucks yeah yes yes in real interesting ways sex scene of the year yeah and joanna kulig for cold war all right mine are tony collette in hereditary viola davis and widows melissa mccarthy and can you ever forgive me carrie mulligan in, and my fifth slot is so, like the competition ultimately won by Charlize Theron and Tully. Wow. Favorite of yours.

Favorite of mine. A real joke. She's wonderful. I like both her and Mackenzie. Oh, yeah. Stone Cold. Viola Davis in Widow, Carey Mulligan in Wildlife,

Regina Hall in Support the Girls. Sakura Ando in Shoplifters. And Helena Howard in Madeline's Madeline. Wow. It's a good spread. And the blankies chose Tony Collette in Hereditary, Olivia Colman in The Favorite, Alcee Fisher, 8th Grade, Lady Gaga, A Star is Born, and Regina Hall, Support the Girl. All performances I love. Yeah. But it's a tough

list this year. No one made all four. Best actress for me was like 15 people that I had to whittle down. To the point where I wrote, like, leaving off Natalie Portman in Annihilation, leaving off Katherine Hahn in Private Life, leaving off Regina Hall. Hahn in Private Life was on that list. Olivia Cooke in Thoroughbreds,

Julia Pinoche in Let the Sun Shine Out. Love list. Olivia Cooke and Thoroughbreds. Julia Pinoche and Let the Sun Shine In. Love that one. Let the sun shine out. Cooke and Thoroughbreds, whatever. Thoroughbreds is not my favorite. Yeah, I don't love Thoroughbreds.

Nah. That's what I say to that movie. Let's talk, well, we talked Sakura and we didn't talk Alex Wolfe. I know this is the wrong category now. Now that we're well beyond it.

We're about to have the Wolfe fight. But just because we're talking about category fraud and hereditary my thing with Alex Wolfe is people keep pointing out to me they end the movie on him he's the main character

at the end of the movie and it's like yeah but he's only that because Toni Collette has fully burned through her storyline sure but I also think the movie so dominates that comes down to this sort of like battle between the two of them it does a little bit he's fantastic it's just just like driver and black linesman he's the vessel he's not the lead

yeah the vessel they're trying to use him no puppet i think so much of that movie is her with um fucking and out and out i was like why can't i remember her is her with. Fucking Ann Dowd. Ann Dowd. I was like, why can't I remember her name? Her with Ann Dowd. Her trying to like going through all of her stuff in the attic. Her with her little dioramas. Yeah.

And it becomes. He sort of emerges in that second half of the movie. I mean, he's also in that protracted scene at the party and whatever. Right, right. And the scene in the car, which is his scene of the year. Yes. After he stops the car and he won't look behind him. Right.

And he tries talking to her. Yeah. Yeah. That's such a good movie. That's a scene. David, that's a scene. I love Hereditary. That's tough.

I think Hereditary gets caught up in that because there was that debate this year with The Quiet Place 2 about elevated horror and people got really mad about that. And it's just like, can we just say that Hereditary, in addition to being the scariest fucking thing I've ever seen is also just a well-made like well put together. I think people want to say elevated horror. Cause they think saying that it's regular horror is an insult, which it isn't. It's a horror movie. It's also one of the best films of the year. Right.

It's both things. They're not mutually exclusive. Right. I think the, I think, I think horror has allowed, had, has periodically allowed itself to sort of wade in the pool of its own

schlock in a way that like we love who doesn't love good schlock horror and i think that's maybe why people feel the need to differentiate yes the problem is that ari aster keeps talking about how he like wanted to make a mike lee drama and he knew a horror movie he's been a little like honest about how it's like he knew a genre movie would get attention and get bought and good for him yeah because the movie's good yeah tony collette is so it's one of those things he's made another horror movie though so like i'm excited i wrote a script for that it's really fun yeah really yeah it's really fucking is it long

it's pretty long is florence pew the lead of that or is she just uh i believe so right it's her and jack rayner i think are the two leads she are the two leads. She was the only one. Love you. Rayner can be good. I've seen Rayner. My favorite Rayner is a movie nobody saw. I was really trying to get cast in that thing. To no success, but I was like, after her answer, I was like, I'll fucking do anything.

But Colette is the opposite of me criticizing something for being too big. She can go as big as she wants in that movie. It's kind of stunning. of me criticizing something for being too big. Yeah, right. She can go as big as she wants in that movie. It's kind of stunning. I mean, that's just like, it's the most acting of the year,

but it's also impressive because there's not a single false moment. There's no overreach. Everything's grounded. Everything's connected. And the breadth of what they're asking her to do is insane. Well, and if she doesn't do, if she doesn't go to that length, the shit that happens in that movie wouldn't make sense like she's she's only reacting in proportion to

what the fuck is going on and just talk about smart acting choices the scene with that and where they're doing this sort of seancey Ouija board thing for the first time and she starts seeing supernatural things that she full-on can't deny for the first time and she starts seeing supernatural things that she full on can't deny for the first time yeah most actors would scream right or start like

trembling right and her two things are she starts crying yeah because she can't process it and then she starts laughing out of embarrassment

at the fact she's crying yeah like everything she does in that movie is avoiding the most obvious decision right but doing the more

complicated thing and then landing it perfectly. That's my win. She's not afraid to let the audience laugh at her too. In that scene where she's yelling at Alex Wolfe, but I'm your mother and I, you know. That dinner table scene. I mean, every scene in that movie is just like a thing.

It's insanity in such a good way. I don't like the dinner table scene. Really? It's actually one of my problems. I love it. Yeah. Too much. Too much. I'm like, we don't need way. I don't like the dinner table scene. Really? It's actually one of my problems. I love it. Yeah. Too much. Too much. Yeah. And I'm like,

we don't need this. I get it already. And also, my problem with Hereditary, which has sort of gone away as I rewatched it, was her fucking head falls off. Sure does.

And then he drives in and he, and it's like, if that happened, no one would ever speak again. Everyone would just shoot themselves in the head and be dead. Like it's too crazy.

Her head fell off. It's like on the road. That's, that's what I appreciate. The audacity of the movie is just like, you're saying they'd never talk to each other again. And this movie is going like, we have to actually try to figure out what this conversation would sound like.

How insane with this conversation. I'm rewatched to now prepared that her head was going to fall off. I was like a little more accepting and then on rewatch three I was like man this movie's great. Also just what a fucking beautiful thing. I mean we're just going full spoiler territory here but that marketing campaign for that movie is just like this kid is weird and you're watching the first

half of the movie and you're like what's the thing with the weird kid and then the weird kid dies in the most insane way possible and you're like I don't know what this movie is now. watching it the second time and realizing that she gets the it's not that she ate cake with nuts in it but she ate cake slice like cut with the knife that was chopping the walnuts for whatever reason that i was just like this is fucking great yeah yeah who your winner oh your winner's colette who's your winner colette regina Regina Hall. Regina Hall's great. I really, really wish I could have put her on my list too.

That movie doesn't work. She's not a real person. I agree. Who are the Blankies? Blankies chose Olivia Colvin, which is a category for us. She's great. It's not fraud to me because it's sort of like... She's the queen.

She's the fucking queen of England. Of all of England. Regina Hall has been so good for so long. Yes. And I feel like, you go, Regina Hall and Anna Faris both come out of Scary Movie. Right? Yeah. And it took, I feel like, 14 years for people

to finally be like, I guess we gotta give Anna Faris a lot of credit. Right. Where they kept on going like, oh, she's like the person who's kind of funny in those dumb movies. Right. It took like 14 years for people to come around and be like, I guess we gotta give Anna Farrow a lot of credit. Right. Where they kept on going like, oh, she's like the person who's kind of funny in those dumb movies. Right. It took like 14 years for people to come around

and be like, she actually is really good. Right. And at that point, she had already transitioned to TV and now she's stuck on Mom. Yeah. Which is an okay show.

But I miss her being in films. People seem to really like it. I miss her being in films. Yeah, me too. Regina Howell took even longer. Yeah. And I feel like now everyone's going like,

Regina Howell, who knew this actress was there rewatch all the dumb comedy she was in she has always been phenomenal she's always really good

she's phenomenal she has always been the best part of every single movie she has ever been in the amazing thing about the Regina Hall thing is

it came out of seemingly Girls Trip yeah and but like Support the Girls must have already been if not finished like well on the girls must have already been,

if not finished, like well on the way. I think Bajowski is smart and he knew what it took everyone else longer to figure out. Yeah. It's like, but it's such a moment

for her now where it's like, I'm so excited for Reverse Big. And now she's doing Prestige TV, she's in more movies, she's above the tell, you can't handle

this much shaft. Is that what the tagline is? Right? Yeah, whatever. Who knows? I don't know. I don't know. what the tagline is? Right? Whatever. Who knows? I don't know. I don't know. Regina Hall rules.

Yeah. No complaints there. Carrie Mulligan's a good pick, David. She's incredible. That movie is flawed in my opinion. Still haven't seen that movie. But she's, I love her as an actress and she is magnetic. The journey she goes on, because in the beginning you get the sense of like, oh, long-suffering wife kind of a thing.

And then the turn that that character takes is. Right, where it's like, no, this movie is about her going wild. And it's that this was sort of there with her all along. Right. And you underestimated her because you were paying attention to Gyllenhaal having a breakdown. Yeah, old Gilly. True or false, Melissa McCarthy should win the Oscar as this category is currently. And I think five years from now, no one will believe that we didn't give it to her.

Of those nominees, would you give it to Gaga instead? I don't agree with that kind of hyperbole, but I mean, she's great. I think five years from now, everyone's going to go, that's so bizarre we didn't give her the Oscar that we all kind of slept on that performance. I mean, we didn't sleep on it. She's getting nominated. Yeah, it's like a quiet nomination. Like, I feel like no one's giving it enough credit considering that she's getting nominated. It's like a quiet nomination. I feel like no one's giving it enough credit considering that she's getting nominated. It's a quiet ass movie

man. It's quiet. Lots of people are going to be like why didn't Coleman win? Because Coleman is about to go on a run. She's going to be on her TV. She's going to be in a movie. People are going to be like what the fuck happened there? That movie got 10 nominations. It's going to win zero.

Maybe one. I think it's one at most. But it's probably zero. Enough people will be standing for her. Enough people will happen there you know like that movie got 10 nominations is gonna win zero maybe one i think it's one at most yeah but it's probably zero uh so is enough people will be standing for her enough people will stand for lady gaga especially depending on what happens there obviously no one's gonna be like well everyone the wife was just you know sitting there you had to go for the wife what if there was a wife which of course what if there was a wife let's just say the wife is winning one award this year at the blankiesies. It's Best Supporting Walnuts. And that's the only award that movie deserves. Say what you texted me after you saw the wife.

The wife is Tyler Perry for white people. It's Tyler Perry for white pseudo-intellectuals. I swear to God, that's what it is. It looks the same. It's got the same sort of clapback moments where they want the audience to cheer. She's not putting up with it anymore. The ending is so trite. I was just going to say

I could spoil the ending of the wife. are fun because they go ham. They do go ham. The fact that he fucking dies at the end of that movie is so stupid.

And has like a perfect kiss off line as he dies. To fuck that movie. And then I mean have I complained about this? I can't remember but I can't imagine you've talked about the wife The framing device of the wife is that she has the same flight attendant on both

flights get out of here and the last scene of the movie basically is the flight attendant being like hi i was your flight attendant on the way over and i just wanted to say i heard about what happened during the film the wife and i just feel really bad for you and clint close is like thank you and i'm like the flight attendant she's been paying attention to the nobel prize machinations his blender in that movie is that he writes love notes on walnuts except it's not a blender because it turns out to be right what he's mad i saw it by myself at 11 o'clock like a week ago at the landmark

on the west side highway because I was like I gotta just see this fucking thing and then you walked into the Hudson I was like I've been putting this

off for nine months I gotta see it before she wins the fucking Oscar all of this is true I'm still fine with her winning the Oscar

just because she's Glenn Close and she should have an Oscar by now I can't wait to see her speech Glenn Close rules she should have an Oscar by now. I can't wait to see her speech, Glenn Close rules. She should have had her Oscar win

for Albert Knobbs. What? Knobbs? I want to be Albert Knobbs for Halloween so badly and I keep on feeling like it's a little touchy. 2011. It's also not in the frontal lobes. That's why I want to do it now.

I've been waiting for it to dissipate. 2011 Best Actress. Listen to this lineup. You don't want any of these women winning that year for that movie anyway. It's Streep and Iron Lady. Nobody likes that she won for that. Violet Davis for the help. It's Violet Davis for the help.

We're all happier that she won for Fences. Probably should have won, though. Michelle Williams for My Week with Marilyn. Nobody would have been happier if that's her. Of course. Of course. Glenn Close and Nobs. My Week with the river of ham more like

it's Rooney Mara in Dragon Tattoo was the only one of those that you're like best performance of those five I honestly I would be happy with her

with Nobbs I think Nobbs is a nightmare movie I think that's an incredible performance I wasn't joking I think Nobbs is a great performer I think Glenn Close rules I think she's good in The Wife like as much as she can be

she's a good actor and as is Jonathan Pryce even though it's a dog shit role. Slater is lost in that movie. Slater does not know what he's doing. Did anyone talk to him? Max Irons is a weird performance. The young version of Jonathan Price is a weird performance.

Remember when Max Irons was a young hottie? That's the poutiest performance I have ever seen. It's the powders yeah the powders and frowners award goes to Max Iron let's do our

screenplays quickly why don't you like my short story according to this we did screenplays last year and actually never said our winners

oh wow fun great cool we're good at this podcast we've been doing it for five years adapted first yeah and let's

do these faster yeah yes obviously gotcha okay you guys go first because I forgot to write this list down so I'm gonna have to

put it together now oh Jesus Christ mine are can you ever forgive me if Beale Street could talk sure the death of Stalin oh yeah

we the animals and border I gotta see border you do they never gave me a screener give me that screener I saw it in a theater like a civilized person.

What the fuck are you talking about? The day that Penny Marshall died, that's what I will remember is seeing Border with Griffin the day that Penny Marshall died. We grieved. We did. The death of Stalin. Love the death of Stalin.

It's very funny. It's so, so, so funny. Mine are widows. Leave no trace. If Beale Street could talk. Can you ever forgive me, and Black Panther. It's a solid list. Death of Stalin should be in there too, though.

I don't know. Death of Stalin is one of those things where it's such a well-acted movie that you're tempted to just be like, ensemble. It's the ensemble that does it. It's a great movie. It's a great movie. I was re-watching it on HBO the other day. It's still great. My favorite thing of the year was the Coens getting nominated for the Oscars.

And I was like, that was adapted? Yeah. Yes. That should be in there too, maybe. I don't fucking know. That movie rules. Wait, what's your favorite bit in Death of Stalin? My favorite bit in Death of Stalin?

Yeah. Clattering fannies. Clattering fannies is so good. Ripper friend is so good. Thank you. Thank you for saying that. Also, when he tries to spit, when he's being pinned to the ground, he tries to spit, and it lands into his hair. Oh, my God. That's so good thank you thank you for saying uh with also when he tries to spit when he's being pinned to the ground it goes into his face oh my god oh my god that's so good i really actually love the scene which is so freaking dark where they're like no your wife was a traitor and she was bad and then they were going on and on and the evidence was flipping it here she is i think

that's so fucking funny palin's my favorite performance in that movie. But I also just love Palin so much. He rules. But that scene where he kind of talks to himself and goes, Stalin didn't like doing this. But he also was a rebel. Also, the scene after Jason Isaacs shows up and punches Rupert Friend in the gut

and then Andrea Risabro just comes out of the back and looks at Buscemi and goes, harm, harm right there. It's so good. Do you know what? I'll say, yeah, but now you guys are making me realize I'm taking one out and putting Stalin in.

Okay, ready? Adapted screenplay. If Beale Street could talk, can you ever forgive me? Black Panther, Border, and you were never really here. I forgot that Stalin was adapted, not original, so I take back the thing I Here. I forgot that Stalem was adapted,

not original, so I take back the thing I just said before reading that category. Those are my five. Beale, forgive. Black Panther, Border, You Were Never Really Here. Okay.

All right. Are my adapted... My winner's Leave No Trace. That's a beautifully written book. My winner is Black Panther. My winner is Can You Ever Forgive Me? I think Black Panther is just like a marvel of screenwriting.

Incredible screenwriting. No pun intended. Very underrated. That it didn't get nomination drove me crazy. I just think the way he approached, we talked about this in another episode that we recorded yesterday, but the way he approached Killmonger in that movie is the smartest screenwriting conceit I have ever seen in a superhero film.

For all the nominations that that movie got, the ones that it missed are mystifying. Screenplay and supporting actor. You can't not nominate Coogler when you nominated it. If it's one of your best pictures, it gets a number of nominations. Coogler, Jordan,

visual effects, that it didn't get the shortlist for visual effects is crazy. The shortlist was so stupid. That Aquaman didn't make the shortlist is one of the most shocking spots

in the history of visual effects. I didn't realize that literally all the hair in that movie is CGI. And that movie did like four things that no movie is. No. Yeah. Visually. Anyway,

whatever, whatever. Yeah. Best Brian King. All right. Original screenplay. Go. Original screenplay.

I have eighth grade. Sorry to bother you. Tully private life and support the girls. David shoplifters. Yes. Voice reformed. life and support the girls david shoplifters yes voice reformed yes support the girls the rider the favorite okay you're really that's spoiled for choice in this like there's so many i have first reformed sorry to bother you hereditary support the girls and shoplifter very nice my winner is first reform my winner is sorry bother you my winner is eighth grade here's what i like about sorry did you not like sorry to

bother you no really oh really i think it's ambitious and it's interesting and i think lakeith is good and i like a lot of what's going on in it. But at the end, I'm just like, stop hitting me. I get it. I like being hit. Maybe I'm a massive hitter. Stop fucking hitting me. I like being hit. I'm making that joke,

but I actually hate being hit in all contexts. You curl into a ball. I fall faster than Bruce Willis when hit. Yeah. I think it's a great screenplay. I love the ambition of it.

I just like people just going for it. a great screenplay. I love the ambition of it. I just like people just going for it. I love the ambition. And I think his points remain so tight and concise. His eye is on the ball the entire time. That movie ain't tight. I think Boots Riley also is looking at this and being like, somebody's going to make this point subtly. I'm going to make this point as loudly and obnoxiously.

I like the movie being loud and angry. I'm fine with that. It's just like, if you're going to have this point subtly. I'm going to make this point as loudly and obnoxiously. I like the movie being loud and angry. I'm fine with that. It's just like, if you're going to have this crazy third act twist as well, like, does the whole, whatever. I don't like the twist in the movie. The twist is my problem with that movie. I love the twist. I do love the twist.

I think the twist is perfectly big. I know I'm going to stick in the mud for not liking the twist or not liking the movie. I also think the Tessa Thompson character is horribly written. I would agree with that. Horribly, horribly is horribly written. I would agree with that. Horribly, horribly, horribly written. Maybe I wouldn't say that many horribly written.

It's insane and no one talked about it. I'll say this. I think you could throw the exact same criticism with the Amanda Seyfried character in first or fourth. That character,

I think both those characters are really underwritten. Paul Schrader. Yeah. Also, Black Klansman does the same thing. Yes. I enjoy Paul Schrader, but I've also seen his Facebook.

Look, there's lots going on with the man. There's a lot going on. Yeah. I don't know what to tell you. Guy's messy. How did we make it through an entire awards season with Schrader getting... A24 literally pointed a gun at him. I believe.

Like, literally. Just like, just get off fucking Facebook for six months, please. You mean Paul Schrader the David Ehrlich of Hollywood? Oh boy. Okay. This episode is going great. Best director.

You don't want to do best score? I think we should do director picture and then fill in some of the other categories. That's fine. Let's do that. Right?

Best director. I got Lin Ramsey Ari Aster Christopher McQuarrie Paul King That's fine. Let's do that. Right? Best director. I got Lin Ramsey, Ari Aster, Christopher McQuarrie, Paul King, Barry Jenkins.

That's a good list. Good list. Paul King. Paul King, Pantin 2, The Deuce. I have Alex Garland for Annihilation,

Barry Jenkins for If Beale Street Could Talk, Yorgos Lanthimos for The Favorite. Steve McQueen for Widows. And David's friend Boots Riley

for Sorry to Bother You. Hells. Yeah, low five. Sorry, I don't like that movie. I feel bad. Everyone likes it. You don't like wearing boots? I don't think everybody likes it.

I feel like it was... You don't like to put on a pair of boots? I love a pair of boots. You don't like getting riled up? Well put. Well put. My five are... Wait, were you going to say... Not everyone likes it. a pair of boots. You don't like getting riled up? Well put, well put. My five are, wait, were you going to say,

not everyone likes it. No, no, no, you're right, you're right. Steve McQueen for Widows. Hiro Kazu Kore-eda for Choplifters. Paul Schrader for First Reform. Brad Lemius P. Cooper

for A Star is Born. I actually don't know what his middle name is. Of course, he was a CIT in theater. Deborah Granik for Leave No Trace. That's a good lineup. And our winners. Charles is his middle name.

Oh, and the blankies for Best Director chose to nominate Alfonso Cuaron for Roma. A movie none of us are talking about. I know. It's wild, isn't it? I think all of us like it. I think it's good. I think it's a very good film. I think it's good. I know, it's wild, isn't it? I think all of us like it. I think it's good. Yeah, I think it's a very good film. I think it's good. I struggled with it in the way I struggle with a lot of horror movies where it's like,

I struggle to make the total leap emotionally with him because he's so spectacle-oriented. See, I usually go in on him emotionally, and this was the first time where I'm like, I can't deny this thing, but I also don't love it. It took me a second time. I got there the second time, I have to say. Second time I watched it. Look, I got nothing bad to say about that movie. I near bradley cooper at toronto and he was like i saw in that he was like doing lenny at the oscars you saw him bcx i saw it really near barry jenkins

what best director nominee did you see bjx uh i saw it very near my girlfriend there we go who was snubbed this year i this year well she should make a feature she did she directed the green book that's the worst thing I've ever said about a person I love she should leave you she's gonna sue me for slander

not only will she leave me but she will sue me blankies nominated Alfonso Cuarón for Roma, Barry Jenkins, Abel Stricatuck, Yorgos Lanthimos The favorite Steve McQueen Widows Traitor

First Reformed My winner is Steve McQueen My winner is Lynn Ramsey My winner is Steve McQueen And the Blankies chose Alfonso Cuaron Sure As will the Academy

Yeah But if Spike Lee wins that In a surprise That'll be fun It'd be wonderful Oh yeah And I also Will not be unhappy

If Alfonso Cuaron wins I'm very happy That neither Bryan Singer nor Peter Farrelly got nominated. Everyone in that category is— I mean, look, I'm not a big fan of Vice, but the other four nominees in that category are stellar. That's the point. I mean, I was not expecting Yorgos and Pavel to get in. I thought Yorgos was going to get stumped.

I'm cooler on Cold War, not to be fancy with it. Well, I'm ice cool on Cold War. I didn't love Cold War. And I don't, it puzzled me. Griffin looked at me for approval, and I approve, honestly. I'm losing my mind. Oh, boy. All righty.

I think Cold War rules. But that's a prickly film. I like the first 25 minutes of Cold War and then it steadily loses. I agree. And then I also like the remaining 65 minutes. It's short. It's a short one. The whole movie fucks.

All right. Best picture. Come on guys. Okay. Oh boy. Cause to me, director is just a pregame for best picture. Yes it is.

Sure. All right. My number 10. I want to do a tie, but I don't want, I want to be pure. Private life. Nine.

Roma. Eight. Eighth grade. Seven. A star is born. Six. Can you ever forgive me? Five.

Hereditary. Four. If Beale Street could talk. Three. The favorite. Two. Annihilation. One.

Widows. My ten are burning. Number ten. Beale Street. Number Mission Impossible Fallout number 8 the rider number 7 support the girls number 6 leave no trace number 5 stars born number 4 first reform number 3 shoplifters number 2 widows number 1 I was the only critic at the village voice poll who put widows number one and yet two of us two of us

if they would have asked me I would have happily done it yeah it's it fucks doesn't even begin to cover how great Widows is it's a movie I like a lot

I have no explanation for why it didn't make my ten it's okay go ahead but here's my ten I formatted this poorly so excuse me if there are any hiccups in reading this

number ten Surtr Bothering. Number 9, The Bleed of Buster Scrubs. Great movie. Number 8, Support the Girls. Number 7, Can You Ever Forgive Me? Number 6, Mission Impossible Fallout. Number 5, Cold War.

Number 4, If Beale Street Could Talk. Number 3, P2 the Deuce. Number 2, Hereditary. Number 1, You Were Never Really three, P2 The Deuce, number two, Hereditary, number one, You Were Never Really Here. P2 The Deuce? That's what Jamesy calls it. Fair enough. P2 The Deuce.

My number 13. Hovering right outside for me were Black Panther, Scruggs, Paddington, First Man, Incredibles 2. Those were like hovering. It hurt me to leave Spider-Verse off at 10. I thought- Love that Spider-Verse. Loved it.

Loved it. Here's the thing I want- You know what else is hovering for me in many categories what sorry i'm just starting my engine the mule oh no what a movie i can't wait to buy that in fucking 4k and watch it six times a day bradley cooper he's literally on my long list. Me trying to figure out how much you actually like The Mule has been like a month long process for me.

I went in being like for me, Griffin's still laughing. For me, the basement on this is I'll like it like as this sort of silly thing. And the ceiling is like I'll fucking love it. And it was close to the ceiling. Wow. That's the funniest thing you've ever done.

Well, thank you. Oh, boy. The mule rolls. Yes, it does. Yes, it does. He has how many threesomes? Two. Two threesomes.

That's fucking crazy. Yeah. So if you multiply, he has six sexes Wow He's 70 70 He's 88

I think right In the movie is he playing a 90 year old He's playing a little older He's 88 Right this film It was written by the guy who wrote The original crazy Yes write this film? Clint Eastwood doesn't write movies. It was written by the guy who wrote Dying for a Trino. And the judge.

Another thing, Clint Eastwood finally comes up with the right metaphor for how he views his filmmaking career, which is a garden. Just let me plant another flower. Wear another bow tie. I went into the mule. The one thing I did not know was the florist thing. He's like the hottest botanist in jesus northern illinois or whatever the ladies love him

and that scene where he's like how you doing you old motherfucker and the guy's like oh you oh muley pants like here you are he's like i got the best fucking orchids you ever saw yeah uh i also call that movie Clint V Technology Dawn of Mewling. Internet. Because it's so much good him complaining about. That scene where he just goes,

Internet. What's the line he says where he goes, that's the problem with your generation. Don't know how to change it. No, what is it? You don't know how to fix

a bread box without pulling up the internet? What does he say? I can't remember if it's bread box. It's something. He says a thing. I believe he says, what could go wrong if it's bread box it's something he says a thing i believe he says you don't know how to wrong with someone's bread box i think he says you don't know

how to fix a bread box without calling up the internet calling up the internet is definitely part of it yes but that's still a movie where his daughter plays his daughter yep yeah diane weiss is playing or diane his ex-wife it's great the movie. The final scene is him just going, I've been a shitty guy. The final scene is him saying, guilty. Literally. Literally.

They're like, you've been a shithead and he's like, guilty. Cut to Clint singing Gran Torino. Who does Bradley Charles Cooper play in this movie?

He plays the cop who's after him and there's literally a scene but what he is playing is the young director. The Casey Affleck to his Robert Redford. Yes, but he's playing

the young director who Eastwood is mentoring and there's a scene where east they have a waffle house lunch breakfast oh and eastwood's like you know you gotta remember anniversaries and you know your kids you should be nice to them listen i know what i'm talking about and cooper's like all right all right and it's literally just like it just sounds like a fucking conversation they had like on the set of american sniper okay i found the line and this is even better the line verbatim is your generation doesn't know how to open a fruit box without calling the internet i knew it was something weird you don't know how to open a fruit box to be fair without calling the internet were i presented with a fruit box, I would have to consult something.

I would speed dial the internet and go, please help me. We haven't even hit two hours. We're doing great. I've been called a fruit box in my time, and you know what? It's not enjoyable. I took it as an insult.

Much like the best fruit boxes, you open up and share your beauties with all of us. Everybody. Yes. All right. So best number us. Alright, so best number one for you, your best picture of the year is... You're Never Really Here.

Now, here's what I want. Which you loved from the minute you saw it. It's a masterpiece. 10 out of 10. I love it. I think Lin-Manuel Miranda is one of the best living filmmakers. Morven Caller to me is still just a perfect movie. It's an incredibly tough film and I saw it twice in theaters because I just couldn't get enough of how good the thing is.

And I also think it's weirdly hopeful. That's wild. Right. P2, the critics' film of the year, right? The best-reviewed movie in history. You and I have talked about the fact that we were both confused. Right, as to why it was getting so much more hyperbole than P1. Right. And I think the answer is we need it more now. I think with that, I do think...

I think people came around to want it. Having rewatched both a ton, it's a little more visually bold. It's got a couple of stunner sequences. Yes. And the villain is a little better. Knuckles McGinty? Yes, I agree. I also feel like there was a contingent of people feeling sad that they got

left out of the original Paddington Wave that really wanted to be on board for this one. Yeah. Now, I'm going to say, I think P1 is a little better than P2, but they're very close. I think Mission Impossible Rogue Nation is better than Fallout,

and yet both of those movies made my 10 and made my director list. I'm disgusted that you said that. Goda Call is better than Fallout and yet both of those movies made my 10 and made my director list I'm disgusted that you said that Goda Call is better than both of those Goda Call is better than both but Fallout is better than Rogue Nation I'm so excited for Mission Impossible you know Tom turns himself into a pretzel

and is shot into another dimension or whatever it's going to be called I've been watching old Oscar ceremonies I was telling David before we started the 2000 2001 Oscars what it's going to be called. I've been watching old Oscar ceremonies I was telling David before we started. The 2000, 2001 Oscars, the Moulin Rouge year,

whatever, took place in 2002. The Barbara Walters special that precedes the Oscar that year, because that's the recording I have has that included. TC.

Tom Cruise, this is post-Nicole, divorce with Nicole, where Nicole is the nominee. Tom is not the story. Barbara decides to interview Tom right inside an airplane hangar where like planes are taking off and Barbara Walters keeps going like you chose this place. I don't understand. He's like, I love it.

But he also has the adult braces on. So this was like this was very like post divorce crisis. Yes, it was quite something. This was the point I was going to make. Post-divorce crisis Tom Cruise. It was quite something. This was the point I was going to make. Two films that are sequels to films that I liked more are charting higher than those, right?

They're predecessors. And the answer is, I feel like, A, I was a coward back then. I was a younger man. I didn't have the courage. To argue for the value of great populist cinema. Sure. Right? And put it up there with the lofty. What will you say when Aquaman 2 becomes that in a few years?

I will back up this year. If there's a spinoff sent in the fucking crab kingdom or whatever. Do you know about this, Ben? What? Do you know they're making a Aquaman spinoff called The Trench that is a horror movie just set in the trench with the trench monsters? I saw that. That's going to fucking rule.

I've never heard of a wet horror movie before. Big, wet, deep, dark. There's a good... Crab people? Sensitive people? Someone make a wet horror movie list for him. Dark Water. That's a wet horror movie. There's some wet ones. Wet horror movies set on Roosevelt Island. Dark Water. That's right. Where my friends just moved and I've mentioned

that movie to them every time I've talked to them. That feels like a cool place to move to. Roosevelt Island? Yeah. They just had a baby so they literally went there to step out talked to them. It feels like a cool place to move to. Roosevelt Island? Yeah. They just had a baby so they literally went there to step out of the world. They were like, we're going to raise our baby and come back later.

I was just going to say, I gravitate towards movies that made me feel a little better about humanity this year. But the tough movies I liked were the ones that still gave me

some fucking kernel of hope. And I feel like Beale Street and You Were Never Really Here are both movies about people trying to maintain their integrity in horrific circumstances. That still gave me like some fucking kernel of hope. And I feel like Beale Street. And you were never really here. Are both movies about people trying to like maintain their integrity. In horrific circumstances. You know I mean. You never really here is a man who inserts himself.

Into the worst circumstances imaginable. Yeah. And you're trying to figure out why. And Beale Street is people trying not to collapse. Under the systemic pressure of racism. Well even our number one, Widows, ends on not a note of triumph for the heist, but it's literally Viola Davis and Elizabeth Debicki

being like, we can be friends now. That's what I want. I want movies where people do nice things to each other. It's so great. If she didn't say hi, the movie would not. Even if they have to go through a lot of murk to get there, I want movies where at the end people go like, fucking let's just like

reach out and talk to each other and try to do kind things for each other and shoot Bob Duvall. Who are your putters and murmurs this year? Who are my putters and murmurs? Speaking of Bob Duvall.

Yeah. Okay. Joe just dramatically flipped pages. I did. It was not as loud as I thought it was going to be. It was a great movement though.

Thank you. So we did talk about Coop several months ago. He's still the top of my list. But I'm surprised you did not consider Eva Melander and Ira Milanoff for borders. I certainly considered him. That is a tandem putter and river. Now, here's what I would say.

I think that's more of a sniffles and grovels. You know? Because that's a lot of... It is a lot of sniffling and groveling. Kind of, you know. Whereas B-Coop's a lot more like... Alright, next up. Jennifer Jason Leigh in Annihilation.

Oh, that's an interesting way to... There's a lot of murmurs. There's a lot of murmurs out of her. Especially at the end where she has this very crucial monologue. She goes, Annihilation. It's Annihilation. I'm going to turn into a fucking candle bulb now.

Did Annihilation make your list, David? I know you and I saw that one together. I love that movie, but it's more a top 20 for me. But I love that movie. Jeffrey Wright in Hold the Dark? Not a movie that I loved. That's a huge Putters and Murphers.

That movie is the most baffling movie of the year. I'd not seen. That's a huge Putters and Murphers. That's a very Putters and Murphers performance. That movie is the most baffling movie of the year. It's the most baffling movie. I actually did that movie with like 50 questions. That movie is literally, I think my, I think my, I said on Twitter, I was just like, hold the dark 2018 deer nonsense. It was just like, question mark. It has this

insane shootout spectacle in the middle of it that really has no connection to anything else that happens well stage and then they come to james badge dale and jeffrey wright in his house like drinking wine being like what a day and i'm like what do you mean what a day the most police in american history were just murdered like they're the president would be in spectacularly violent ways yes with a fucking like a giant cannon gun. Yeah. Insane.

Insane. Insane. I mean, there's, I think there's another performance that none of us like in a movie that none of us like where if you're going to give it any credit, you have to give it credit for putters and murmurs.

Let's hear it. Bale and Vice. Sure. Yeah. I mean, Dick Cheney is the king of the putters and murmurs. It's still the penguin a little bit. It's still just like,

eh. But I'm saying, if you're grading just on that scale, he does some good puttering, some good murmuring. Even if it's sideways. It's not bad, Griffin. Joe's doing Vice Face. I'm trying to only talk out of the side of my mouth.

He's doing Vice Face. The other one I had. I want to be. My last one. What if I was bad? My big tum-tum man. Helena Marcos in suspiria which i will grant is maybe more a wheezes and whispers than the putters and murmurs yeah but what the the fucking the doctor though the doctor also and tilda is well the doctor is is guilt and recrimination

sure um the tilt is doing a lot we can we can stipulate that i love suspiria i don't know if i love suspiria i loved the scene in suspiria where dakota johnson dances a woman into a pile of bones oh boy that is quite the scene i gotta say another putters and murmurs we're not talking about grandma shoplifter oh sure kieran kiki i Sure. This was a banner year for Putters and Murmurs. This was a banner year for Putters and Murmurs. She rules. She's amazing in another creative film called After the Storm. Yes.

Where a lot of it is just her chiseling at this ice cream. Yes. It's great. Amazing. What else do we... Oh, score. Come on, give me your scores. I love doing a score.

I was tweeting about this the other night, too, a couple nights ago. Incredible year for score. It's a we, oh, score. Come on, give me your scores. I love doing a score. I was tweeting about this the other, the other night too, a couple nights ago. Incredible year for score. It's a really, really good year. I had just seen at Eternity's Gate and I was like, I can't believe this Defoe nomination, but this sounds really good. And wait, I'm going to bring up her name because it's, uh, the rare female composer. I know it's one of these male dominated craft categories. these male dominated craft categories.

Tatiana Lissovskaya for At Eternity's Gate. Really good. Probably in my seventh spot, but still. I want to say, I just think the best element of any film in 2018, the single greatest accomplishment in the field of filmmaking in 2018 is the score for Beale Street. Oh, Pratel. Nicholas Pratel. That thing is. Yeah, that's my number one. That's just stunning. That's my number one with a bullet.

I also have Ben Salisbury and Jeff Barrow for Annihilation. Great score. Which will never get out of my mind ever. Daniel Hart for The Old Man and the Gun. Incredible score. Highly underrated. Max Richter for Mary Queen of Scots. Not a great movie, but a great score. That movie fucking

sucks. I haven't seen it. It does. But great score. And then my wild card, which a few people have talked about this. Cliff Martinez for Game Night is a really good score. You know, we haven't talked about Game Night. Clemens is incredible. McCadams is incredible.

Chandler's great. Yeah. McCadams is so funny. The score, I have not considered i love that's a good call though it's really weird it's also a beautiful but it's like it really like good looking movie yeah it it amps up that like drama but in a really over the top way where you know it's still like funny oh wonderful oh no he died is the best line yes it is of the year absolutely um for me tom york and Suspiria. I disagree. I think there's a better line reading.

Go ahead. That's the problem with your generation. You can't open a fruit box without calling the internet. Hey, Bradley. I just want to take another look at you. I just wanted to mule another drugs at you. Can they make a mule sequel, please? Sure.

It starts with a prison scoop, then you just start to mule it again. I'm going to mule sequel, please? Sure. It starts with a prison escape, then he just starts mulling again. I'm going to mule myself out of this jail. Mule 2 never stopped mulling. It's just too old. It's too ULE. Because my favorite thing about mule is that he's just driving a car. The point is that he's so old

that no cop would be like, this guy's a drug mule. In the prison break, he just gets in a car and starts something like, hey, aren't you a prisoner? He's like, this guy's a drug mule. You know? So like I would let, in the prison break, he's just like, he just gets in a car and starts something like, hey, aren't you a prisoner? He's like, no, don't mind me. The scene where he

browses the cop with popcorn tins. Yeah. You know, we're all missing the obvious answer. I'm so loaded up on fucking kettle corn.

We're all in a trunk that's otherwise filled to the brim with conspicuously blank black duffel bags that are clearly filled with drugs and money. With big C's on them. Take this kettle cord. A good Brothers and Mermers was Garcia in The Mule 2.

Oh, Andy Garcia? Mr. Golden Gun Garcia? Yes, exactly. Garcia had a year between that. Yeah, he's kind of a Brothers and Mermers in Mamma Mia 2 because there's a lot of like, oh. Golden Gun Garcia. Garcia had a year between that. Yeah, he's kind of a Protestant Murmurs and Mamma Mia 2. Except when he goes across the entire...

It's a triumph. I also love that Andy Garcia is going like, I will romance any actress 12 years older than me on screen. He really had a time of it this year. She's had a great time. Diane Keaton. Good for Andy Garcia. He romances Clint Eastwood in The Mule.

He romanced humanity onto that spaceship in Passengers and was just like, I wouldn't believe it. We have to include that as part of his big year because of course they re-released Passengers for the 8,000 screens. Wait, what were you gonna

say though? I was gonna say we're missing the obvious answer here, which is the sequel to The Mule is called The Mules. It's a family business. It's with the dollars. My score nominees, Nicholas Patel for Beale Street, Tom York for Suspiria, Justin Hurwitz for First Man, which is an incredible score. I agree with that.

And that movie rules, and whatever. That's one people sort of come around on eventually. Daniel Hart in The Old Man and the Gun, and Ludwig Göransanson for Black Panther, which is my winner and has like the greatest hero theme of all time. And it has the greatest city fee. Yes. Or,

you know, country thing, but like Wakanda capital, you know, like that. Holy shit. I'm also going to say something really controversial. I think all the lights should win best song.

Oh, that's a great song. It is a really great song, but it should not win. No. I forgot to read this. The Blankies' Best Pictures. Oh, right. Oh, right. 10, Mission Impossible.

9, Hereditary. 8, P2, The Deuce. 7, Annihilation. 6, Spider-Man to the Spider-Verse. 5, Widows. 4, Roma. 3, Beale Street. 2, The Favorite., One First Reform.

All right. Well, we got good fans. Yeah, we do. You do have a reformed one. Yeah. All right. I know we did voice performers last year, so I came with a couple. I did, too.

I think there are a couple big standouts this year. One was Tom Hardy and Venom, which is half of a voice performance. But, like, the voice performance part of that is some greatness. That's a really good call and you're thinking outside the box.

Thank you. I don't want to be traditional here. No, yeah. The other one that I have is my number one with a bullet, which is Catherine Keener

and Incredibles 2. Beat me to it. She's so great in that movie. Beat me to it. Because here's who my five would be, okay? Catherine Keener, Incredibles 2.

Sarah Silverman, Ralph Breaks the Inner. She's wonderful in that. Ben Whishaw, P2 The Deuce. Doesn't work without him. Right? Then I think... Where is he?

Where is he? I'm going to say Nicky Cage, Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse. Oh, he rules. He rules. And then my winner, for me, clear-cut the best voice-over performance

of the year, and I'm hoping this is who you're waiting for me to say, Jim Cummings' Christopher Robin. Oh, for winning the vote. He is amazing. Yeah, I wasn't thinking of him,

but of course he's amazing. Who are you thinking for where is he? Jake Johnson! The fuck are you talking about? Yeah. That performance is extraordinary. That's actually, that's like extraordinary.? Jake Johnson. The fuck are you talking about? That performance is extraordinary. That's actually...

That's right. Extraordinary. That's correct. The problem is also... Turn it up. Turn it up. No. That performance...

The problem is Mahershala is also incredible in Spider-Verse. I mean, you could fill your category. Ryan Tyree Henry is also incredible in Spider-Verse. But I know... Mulaney is incredible in Spider-Verse. Mulaney is incredible. Mulaney fucking owns. Mulaney's great voice performance in Big Mouth is on TV, but he owns.

He's great. Oh, my God. No, I think you're right about Jake Johnson, though. I think that character, like, there's some degree of difficulty. I'll knock Nikki Cage out. I'll put Jake Johnson, but Jim Cummings is still my favorite. I would also say Gal Gadot in Wreck-It Ralph Ralph Breaks the Internet

love Shank America's Got Shank Fever yeah I mean you know Sandler oh yeah blah blah blah

HG3 I'm trying to think of some other voice performances but I guess yeah those are my five I agree

Keener's the standout of Incredibles yeah I think Ralph Breaks the Internet we've said in previous episodes is like Those are my five. I agree. Keener's the standout of Incredibles. Yeah. I think Ralph Breaks the Internet, we've said in previous episodes, is like an insane step up from an already great performance in the first movie. Who was it that had the really creepy reaction to Incredibles 2? Anthony Lee. Okay. off doubly because the real truth of it is like there is some chemistry going on between holly hunter and katherine keener's characters in incredibles 2 yeah that is queer in a way you

know what i mean there's queerness to that not in like textual way whatever but like in the classic sort of like queering a narrative kind of a way yeah that i wanted to talk about and i couldn't because then i thought it was just going to be a creep like Anthony Lang. I believe I tweeted this out as well, but also he wrote an article about Pixar like 10 years ago where he devoted three paragraphs to how much he wanted to fuck Elastigirl. This has been his problem for a while.

He's been on for a while and saying like, we all agree, right? I mean, I think the third paragraph ends with, and yes, she can stretch any part of her body. And you're like, what? What are you, what? You think she could stretch like her liver her body and you're like what? What are you? What? You think she can stretch like her liver and thus drink more? Yeah and apparently he wants to fuck her liver or something?

I don't know. Anthony Lane of course Ben's best critic of the year. Third year running for his Incredibles 2 review. I also came with a list of scum bums for Ben for this year. Because I wanted to be a good guest.

I wanted to bring something. All right. We've talked about Joaquin Phoenix and you were never really here. Classic Ben scumbum. Yeah. And scumbum with a heart of gold. Couple. This is what I'll say, what I love about the specifics of the scumbumery.

It's outer borough, sort of like weird, middle of nowhere Queens, shady like bodega. Mama's boy scumboy. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of good just like shady New York locations yeah

that's good two I wonder if you've maybe considered Richard E. Grant in Can You Ever Forgive Me is is quality scumbum have you seen that Ben?

no cause you rarely get the sophisticated scumbum yeah but that's what he is he's a gentleman scumbum truly but he's a scammer

yeah he's a scoundrel a truly. But he's a scammer. A scoundrel. He's incorrigible. You can't not love him. I'm on board. And then also, Nicole Kidman in Destroyer. Wow. She's an unconventional scumbum.

She's like a killer. No, she's a cop gone to seed. She's a cop who's willing to do the bad thing. So she's taking crime into her own hands. Yeah. Yeah, you're speaking my language. And this is like L.A. scumbag. Ben looks so proud, right?

Yeah. Take a look at this. Let me know what you think. Does Ben have some category? Are there other things that we want to talk about? No, I think it's time to throw it in. Oh, is it my time? It's your time, Ben.

It's your time to shine. Okay, here we go. And now I'm going to eat the bagel I've had for two hours. Let me just remind the audience of some of your favorites from last year, because they're all here. Oh, yes. Baby Driver should be Fruit Driver. Main fruit is the honeydew melon.

Nice. That makes sense. All the money in the world, do a CGI puppet instead of Christopher Plummer. I remember when that was a movie. Molly's game should have been made with puppies. Reenact dogs playing poker. Thank you. Pirates of the Caribbean.

I did not remember you saying this. Dead men tell no tales. What about clowns of the Caribbean? Dead jesters have no words. What is that? I don't remember that either. I blacked that out. This is my original category of movies that should be remade with either babies, animals,

or puppets, but then also fruit, and now clowns too. But maybe a robot or two could be cool. Okay, so here we go. Here we go. All right. All right. So for babies- All right, guys.

Widows or baby widows. Those are some cute little criminals. But they're widowed. Their husbands are dead. Baby Cynthia Erivo can still sprint though. Can really get around. Alright. For animals I thought Isle of Dogs.

Fix the movie. Have all the problematic human characters be dogs. Just everyone's a dog. Everyone's a dog. A true Isle of Dogs. But then the real dogs are big. To distinguish? Yeah, so it's like a cool sort of perspective thing. So it's called like Isle of Big Dogs.

Yeah. Alright. Alright. Mid-90s felt right for like a puppet remake. Sure. Because that's pretty much just like, they would just make it an after school special. That's good.

It's very accurate. All right. I'm all for equal representation in Hollywood, but there is something about Crazy Rich Fruits that's got a really

nice ring to it. They're rich. They're rich. Crazy. They're crazy. Who's the lead character though? A banana.

All right. All right. Clowns. Ready player clown. Rylance was close for me on supporting actor, by the way. I want to say that. Oh,

I want to say something else. I'm sorry to interrupt you. I want to say something else. I rewatched ready player One on a plane to Utah. In fact, it's good. It's a good movie. It's better the second time. It fucking rules.

I'm buying it on iTunes. It's a good movie. I'm so stunned. I stopped shooting. His eyes bugged out of his head. I'm trying very hard to eat off. The action in that movie is fucking incredible.

It kind of rules. It kind of rules. I'm sorry and it's just spielberg yelling at us and yelling at himself and it rules i'm sorry i'm sorry carry on please uh and then now uh adding a robot or two i was thinking robot mary poppins returns yeah yep so like that's the twist of her return where she's like i'm back and now like her face opens up she could like like her umbrella now is just like a helicopter yeah oh so inspector gadget is what yeah she's basically inspector gadget right right right uh love it all right next up we have the weddies okay so year, some of your slickest flicks were Blade Runner, Future Wet. What is this show? I, Tonya, where you're pointing out that the rinks were frozen water.

Frozen water, yeah. Dunkirk, Soaked to Death. Yep. Shape of Water, title says it all. Yep. And Justice League, because the movie is sweaty. And Aquaman. Right, right, right, right.

All right, so this year- This year, we have Serenity got a salty ass dog. Well, that's actually 2019, but whatever. Who cares? Give me it. You also still haven't seen it.

I know it's wet. It's wet. I mean, I can't deny that. Everyone on Twitter is like, have you seen it yet? And usually people either contact me about big stuff

or wet stuff. So I don't think there's a big fish in that movie. There's a big fish. There is. But it's wet. Okay. don't think there's a big fish in that movie. There's a big fish. There is, but it's wet. Okay.

Also a plot twist is also big in that movie. It's big. Matty Mac's butt is also big in that movie. Yeah, it is. And it is frequent. Next up we have Venom. Cause he's sticky.

And also he gets in the lobster tank that time. Yeah. It's a wet moment. It's a wet moment. Classic wet moment. Griff is melting down. The favorite. Yeah. It's a wet moment. It's a wet moment. Classic wet moment. Griff is melting down. The favorite,

because it's just like gross wet. Like, throw up and they're like getting buckets thrown on them. That's true.

That's true. You know, and like she burns her hand in chemicals. Yeah. What do you call it? Lie. Lie.

Yeah. Yeah. It's the wet stuff. I'm sure. A star is born. It's the wet stuff. I'm sure. A star is born. You make the rules here. I do. A star is born because he is so drunk.

He's just a wet man. He's soaked. He's soaked. I was not expecting the wettest films category to line up this closely with best picture. What else? Come on. Well, of course, we've got my man, Aqu man aquaman i mean that's the winner right that's the clear winner that wins the bucket of water or whatever the award is yeah um

yeah i don't know maybe it's a golden mop yeah the golden vos bottle all right now apparently last year you had a category called should have had jared leto in it have you kept this category well we got an honorable mention for vice it receives the he thick award because christian bale's looking really tasty as dick cheney yes all right and then lastly we have the um no thank you no thank you all right first up we got bohemian rhapsody. No thanks. It's a bloated biopic directed by a rapist. That movie is like number one with a bullet in the, oh, no, thank you.

That's the, oh, no, thank you, Hall of Fame right there. I like how there's also no joke to make. You're just stating the facts. It is a bloated biopic directed by a rapist. Why is this nominated for Best Picture? Great question. I don't know. Next up, we have Roma.

Wow. Drag. bring a pillow jeez you're gonna fall asleep to this flick roma is also incredibly wet i mean it opens with a three minute shot of the wilds being washed i know it ends with the whole family in the fierce and formidable ocean is a huge character it's an incredibly wet picture. I don't think I made it to the beach. Next up, we got Green Book. No, thank you. You lost me at book. Here's how it goes. It's like Green and you're like, tell me more.

I'm into that. Tell me one more word. I'm in for one more word after Green. Lost me. Thank you. At Attorney's Gate. Sounds too long. No, thank you. Sure. And lastly, we have Can You Ever

Forgive Me? No! Thank you! You can't forgive him? No! You're a stealer. Nah, I just wasn't interested. And that's been my original categories once again for the fourth annual blankies and that's why he's our finest film you deliver like few others but anthony lane has to give his award back yeah it's true he's taken it yeah happens every year we

always forget and lane just wrote a review of this episode that's just about how much he wants to fuck beth how much he wants to fuck Beth. Boing, boing, boing, boing, boing, boing. Boing, boing, boing, boing, boing. What more is there to say? Nothing. I don't know. It truly was a wonderful night for blankies. We're fine. It was a wonderful night for blankies. 2.13 with three star-studded ad reads already baked in.

Here's what I'll say. Yeah. This is definitely going to be better than whatever the Oscars are going to serve up. Whatever fucking poo-poo platter. And shorter. That is true. And shorter. And yet still shorter.

Pay attention, John Bailey. Award all 24. That's the hashtag. I'm with it. It is kind of incredible. A night that is theoretically meant to celebrate the art of motion pictures is now jettisoning the airing of the categories

devoted to the pictures and the process that puts them in motion next to each other. You could make a movie without actors. Yep. But you could not make a movie without cinematography and editing. I think also Guillermo del Toro today tweeted like, you're literally removing the two art forms that are entirely

inherent to everything else that comes from a theatrical tradition or whatever these are the two things that are proprietary to filmmaking I could go out

and make a movie tomorrow and not have any actors in it but I would need cinematography and I would need editing those are the only two things you absolutely need

to qualify it as a movie yes no no no but also that chair with your name on the back of it you do need one of those and you need a picture of you looking behind

the viewfinder yeah with like a hat the back of it. You do need one of those and you need a picture of you looking behind the viewfinder. Yeah, with like your hat. A hat of some sort. Yeah, like maybe a battleship's name written on it. And you're like pointing off vaguely somewhere. And a photographer to take a photograph of you pointing at a thing from your chair. Yeah, you need that. But that's it.

That's it. Those are the only three things. I'll wait for best hat this year. Terrence Malick. Always. Every year. Still the best hat Those are the only three things. I'll wait for best hat this year. Who's going to win? Terrence Malick. Yes, always. Every year. Still the best hat, still the best director picture. May it never, ever change.

You know he sued them for giving the Academy that picture, right? Wow. Because he doesn't like to have his photograph taken. The producers gave that photo, the one they've now used both times he's been nominated for best director, and he sued them for giving the photo away. What a cheerful guy. Which is also, it's the only best director photo of someone smiling them for giving the photo away. What a cheerful guy. Which is also, it's the only best director photo

of someone smiling in history. My favorite is... They're always so serious, and he's smiling. A DB you can get in black and white or color. Oh, that's fantastic. It's a great hat. Then there's this third picture.

Now they're more, in a paparazzi era. Yeah. You're going to catch on. He does have to be on set. I love Terry. Love Terry. Can't wait for Radagund or whatever it's called.

I'm going to start playing you off. Okay. All right. He's also, he is now directing Guardians of the Galaxy 3, right? Yeah, that's right. Yeah, Terry Malick. Finally, we've got him into the MCU. And he's also playing Batman now?

What if that was the twist that it turned out Terrence Malick was hosting the Oscars we didn't want to tell you because he's very press shy here he is Terrence Malick what a great movie he's in here what if he comes out

and he's like let's talk about me too you're like oh boy oh no oh god representation in Hollywood comes up a lot

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Yes. I hate to be quite so crass. But on point. If you want to listen to some real nerdy shit, speaking of which, come listen to this at Oscar Buzz. We talk about old movies that should have been nominated for Oscars,

or that wanted to be nominated for Oscars and were not. The should have is up for debate. I'll be on soon discussing Old Dogs. Yeah, we gotta have you on, Griff. We had David on. We talked about Alexander. It was a good old conversation. And let me watch that four-hour masterpiece again. You're watching which cut are you watching?

Ultimate. Okay. Was that the fourth or the fifth cut? I think it's the fourth. It's the one before the last one. It's not the longest one. No, it's the one that's a little shorter than the last one. The intermediate. It honestly doesn't matter because, like, honestly the theatrical cut is fine. The bigger cuts don't really... The longest one is the one on that's on netflix though i'm pretty sure they just make

scenes sort of fatter and like add more shit to them it's not really necessary yeah i like the length that it should be as long as fucking possible yeah it adds a lot of the like romance stuff a lot of sure yeah sure yeah but yeah follow us on twitter at had underscore oscar underscore buzz my co-host Chris Feil and I would be very, very grateful. Thank you for having me on. Tell your fantastic listeners it would be kind of right up their alley. If you're not already listening,

what's wrong with you, I say? Any final thoughts? David, you're in film? I'm so excited for 2019. I never want to think about 2018 again, as usual. What do you think is going to be your best film of 2019? I mean, Surrender. I've seen two films that

are, three films that are potential. Oh, that's true. I have. Because I went to Sundance this year. I have my best actress contender who is going to be very hard to budge from that spot. Elizabeth Moss. Well, Mossy in her smell. I don't, I can't envision a performance that's going to

knock that out easily but high life blew me away and then at sundance i mean the farewell is yeah you know like i'm excited for that ruin me really yeah oh i'm excited for it good that movie's so good that i sometimes think about how it ends and start crying really yeah which is nuts it's not like something i do on the reg no that's like a lot of movies where I start crying when I think about it. You're usually stone cold. Yeah, stone cold. And then The Souvenir, which I assume is coming out this year, and a sequel is already in production,

and I cannot overemphasize how amazing this movie is. There was a movie that came out like a month ago, A Dog's Way Home. Sure. And now there's A Dog's Journey or something? A Dog's Way Home. Sure. Sure. And now there's A Dog's Journey or something? A Dog's Journey Bad? A Dog's Breakfast is next. I thought A Dog's Way Home was the sequel to A Dog's Journey. One of them is not related.

One of them is a separately produced adaptation of a book written by the same author. And the other one's a direct sequel. So this is some like where James Bond, like people own half the rights or whatever. Yeah. Oh, they're both. All three movies are written by the same Bruce Cameron joints. Yeah.

Is this also a dog's purpose or am I making up? That's the one I was thinking. Dog's purpose, dog's journey, dog's way home were the three. Yeah, I think that's right. But only two of them are legally connected to each other.

The dog who kicked the hornet's nest, the dog who played with fire. Yeah. Anyway, that's my best picture of 2019. Okay. You're right. You're right. You're right.

That's right. And as always, fuck the wife. Can't do that. Well, wait a second. What? What if there was a wife? Okay. You know what?

And as always, reconsider the wife. Back.