Blaze Your Own Trail - Creating Transformation Kitchen: A Beacon of Hope with Chason Forehand

Episode Date: May 15, 2025

SummaryIn this episode, Chason Forehand shares his inspiring journey from a troubled childhood marked by abuse and addiction to becoming a beacon of hope for others through his nonprofit, Transformation Kitchen. He discusses the importance of resilience, faith, and the power of community in overcoming life's challenges. Chason emphasizes the need for compassion and support for those facing hardships, and how his organization aims to provide resources and opportunities for individuals in need.TakeawaysChason's journey reflects the power of resilience and faith.Overcoming addiction requires support and a willingness to change.Transformation Kitchen aims to address food insecurity and provide hope.Community involvement is crucial for creating lasting change.Chason's experiences highlight the importance of helping others.The journey of recovery is ongoing and requires continuous effort.Faith plays a significant role in Chason's life and recovery.Empowering individuals can lead to broader community impact.Chason's story serves as a reminder that it's never too late to change.Transformation Kitchen is a model for addressing social issues through compassion. Chapters00:00 Introduction to Chase On Forehand03:16 Chase's Early Life and Struggles10:21 Turning Point: Overcoming Addiction15:16 The Journey of Recovery and Growth21:38 Passion for Helping Others25:31 Transformation Kitchen: A Nonprofit InitiativeConnect with Chason:WebsiteLinkedInConnect with Jordan:LinkedInInstagramTikTokJoin Jordan's weekly Group Coaching Community Risk FreePre order a signed copy of Jordan's new book The Life-Changing Power of AdversityThe Blaze Your Own Trail Podcast is now exclusively sponsored by CityGate StudiosWhat does that mean for our listeners?It means you'll be getter more consistent content with better visuals state of the art post production.What does that mean for our future guests?It means we now not only have virtual podcast options but have an option to record in studio and get Hollywood level content to help elevate your business faster!Here is more information about our amazing sponsor below:Welcome to the future of post-audio production. Our state-of-the-art facility, strategically located in the Atlanta-metro area, is setting a new standard in sound design, mixing, and immersive audio experiences.Designed by the world-renowned Wes Lachot, our studio features patented acoustic architecture that delivers unparalleled sonic precision. With two Dolby Atmos-enabled control rooms and a spacious live room accommodating up to 20 instruments in a single session, we provide the ultimate environment for music and film professionals.Situated in the heart of New Hollywood in Atlanta, we are just minutes from the country’s largest film production studios—offering seamless integration for filmmakers, content creators, and musicians. Our commitment to a drug- and alcohol-free environment fosters a professional, focused atmosphere, ensuring every project reaches its full potential.Beyond cutting-edge technology and expert craftsmanship, we offer highly competitive pricing and a business-friendly climate, making us the premier choice for audio post-production in the region.Experience a new era of sound. Welcome to Atlanta’s leading post-audio facility.Want to get involved in CityGates misson?Donate to the Go Fund me HERE Are you an entrepreneur?Join my FREE Group Coaching Community where we have live calls, Q&A and more! Our Trailblazer Ecosystem also enables you to network with other entrepreneurs and creator hub eliminates multiple subscriptions and logins creating a one stop shop to take action!Use code: FOUNDING100 for 12 months access FREE and Founding pricing for life! (While Supplies Last)Join now! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hello, everyone, and welcome to the Blaze Your Own Trail podcast. I've got a very special guest today. His name is Chase on Forehand, and I'm going to have him tell you a little bit about who he is and what he does today. I appreciate it. Thank you for having me on the show today. This is, you know, we've been connected for a while. This is cool to be here. I tell people, I'm just a regular Joe, just an old scarred up hockey dude that is lucky to be doing what I do. I come from, you know, having kind of a scary start as a kid and going through some abuse and abandonment. And then a period in my life during college of being a dude that went through drug addiction and homelessness to creating something now to where I can help people. And I think that path and the journeys that we take and the struggles, whether it's self-inflicted or it's just life, is part of what builds a lot. up to do the things that we're meant to do. And for some of us, that's early on in our lives and I cheer those people. I cheer those people because I think that's fantastic. For me, it took a little bit longer. But I love what I do. I love the nonprofit that we created and the impact

that we have not only in our community, but abroad. So that's really, you know, kind of a condensed version, a reader's digest version of I'm just an old, old culinary hockey dude that, you know, just spent my time doing the paces and I love people and I love being able to pour into people. Love it. Love it. Well, I'm excited to have you on the show. You know, what you're doing is great work and, you know, everybody is going to go through stuff, right? In life, sometimes it's early. Sometimes it's in the middle. Sometimes it comes at the end. We never know, right? The adversity, you know, doesn't really skip anybody. No. And it's what I love to tell people that I'm working with and clients is, you know, we have to figure out and get to a place where we are in a position

to extract the lessons and see what we actually gained from it. Because adversity is, it doesn't happen to us just to make it make it so life sucks. And unfortunately, we can get that way. We can look through that lens and that's one lens that we can take. But we can also say, you know what? What did I gain from this? Like, what is this done for me? And how can I use this as a catapult to get me to the next destination that I'm going to. So that's, that's what I'm passionate about is seeing that potential in people and saying, listen, you're not done yet. You're still alive. You've still got more to do on this planet. We've still got more people that we can go inspire and encourage and help. And so that's why I

wanted to get you on because that's really the mission that you're serving right now. And in order for us to get to that mission, you kind of mentioned a couple of hardships and things. And we're going to dive into those stories, folks, because this is the Blaz Your Own Show podcast. And as everybody knows, my favorite part of the show is taking that rewind. I want to get into Chase on when he was younger and in the early days and find out, hey, what was that like? What was the experience like? You know, and then what now, obviously hindsight's 2020, what lessons have you extracted now that

you are here and creating an impact for people? So if you can share with the audience, where were you born and raised? And then what kind of kid were you? And just little chase on, run around the streets, you know. What kind of stuff did you get into? It sounds like sports. It sounds like a little riffraff probably like me as well. So go ahead and share it the audience a little bit about the formative years.

Well, this is interesting because I call myself a New Yorker and New York is home base. But I was born in Tallahassee, Florida. And I have lived in 17 states, 42 cities, and 60 years. So I've been around the United States. Outside the United States, I've been to Mexico and Canada only. That's it. So there's a whole big world out there that I still have to explore and I want to explore. But I don't remember a lot of my childhood because my childhood was not traditional.

So my biological mother actually left me. So after five years of abuse and abandonment, she left me and my three and a half year old brother on a beach and just despair. Luckily, we got back to our family. And unfortunately, my stepmother came in and just felt like I'm going to tell you every single day for the next 12 years that you were garbage and that you were unworthy and that I'm doing you a favor by even being here. And was just a horrible human being. Yeah. And so you create that wheel of, you know, that happens and sits on your shoulder, however you want to describe it.

But it starts to implant itself and ingrain itself into your system. And so for 17 years, I heard that nonstop. And it drove me. It drove me to do things that I'm an introvert that's really kind of socially awkward. And so I did stuff that I didn't like and I didn't want to do just to try to gain favor with her and other people. So yeah, I played sports and I was in all kinds of clubs. And I was a straight A student and got into office. honors classes and and ended up going to college and and all the things.

But early on in my life, I wanted to escape. And so I found drugs. And I used that to fill that gaping hole that was inside. And it paralyzed me for a period of time in my life. Yeah. And I'm sure that was not easy. I mean, you're doing it because you wanted. to escape, like you said, you wanted to just have an alternate reality than the one that you were

experiencing. So can you walk through the first day of realization that you didn't need them? The first, maybe the first day where you just said, you know what, it's, I'm done with this. Because I think we could, we could dive into the story and we could go into and sit in the muck with you of the whole experience. But I want to see like, how the heck did you get out of this, man? Like, what was it? Was it a person? What was it, um, spiritual awakening? Like, what was it for you that made you one day go from, you know, hey, I need to be here to escape? And then I'm, you mentioned you were paralyzed, which means you were stuck there for a period of time. And then what made you can want to get out and climb out? I think it's a couple different things. So I'm not a fan of organized religion,

but I am a person of huge faith. And I believe God had better plans for me. So instead of, you know, all these times that I hit the walls and I shouldn't be here having this conversation with you, he allowed me to get past those things and be able to tell my tale. So there's a huge piece of it that's about faith and that's about coming to that place. Step one is I am powerless against my addiction and I need the help of a higher power of other people to get past this. And I went for the longest time before I was, ready to make that statement and to say those things and to start any kind of steps at all. And it got down to one particular place.

I was a culinary guy during that time period. I had pretty decent chops and I had gotten a job with this fantastic restaurant. The chef was a James Beard Award winning chef. He was working his way to his first Michelin Star and was just phenomenal. And I had worked my way up from doing prep to being on the line. So being on the line in any capacity for a guy of that level is just like next level. And I was learning by leaps and bounds. But I hit a roadblock.

And for three days straight, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, three biggest days for us. I missed Friday service. I missed Saturday service. I missed Sunday brunch. And somehow came to my senses in the middle of Sunday. showed up. And this chef, instead of being like most chefs and just saying, get the heck out of here, he had three piles on his desk. He says, hey, come here, I want to talk to you. And he had three piles. One pile was a pile of pamphlets for a couple of different places. And he began to tell me

how he had made some phone calls. And he had gotten me into Narcotics Anonymous. He had a person that he wanted me to contact that he knew personally that he was going to be my first mentor and that he was going to be my first sponsor and that there were a couple of other organizations that he wanted me to check out as well including if i needed a treatment facility that all i had to do was call them and they would they would accept me the second pile had a couple of business cards and they were for people that were going to put a roof over my head even though i'd be sharing And with other people, I'd have a cot. I'd have a little bit of space.

But I wouldn't be on the streets and I wouldn't be in a car and I wouldn't be on someone's couch, maybe. But I would have a place to clean up and start to repair my life. And then the third pile was just a little bit of money, fives and ones. He said, I want you to use this money to get to these places and I'm going to check in on you and I'm going to check up on you. And by the way, you're fired. But I want you to understand that I'm doing it.

because I want you to go through this process because I care about you and I believe that if you go through this process, you will be a better human and you will be able to not only survive, to live, but you'll start to see your full potential. And the road's not going to be easy, but you've got enough inside you to make this happen. Are you ready? And I sat there sobbing as he's telling me this, this guy that I respected that I was so thrilled to get the job to go through the stage because you go through this,

it's called a stagier or a stage and you have to show up and you get paid for it, but you, it's not much. I've heard it's very grueling. It's like, yeah, fast pace, it's going, yeah, it's hardcore. It's going, yeah, it's hardcore. They'll throw you in on a Friday night and let's say,

let's see what you can do. And you've got to learn the menu and you've got to pay attention and you've got to show your skills from your knife skills to everything else. And I made it. I made the team. And then I worked by, way up and then I fell apart. So to have someone that instead of just saying, get out of my restaurant, just get out of it. He handled the situation with grace. You know, he handled it in a way that was to serve you well. And so what did you do? I did the work. It did the work. It wasn't pretty.

And was it exactly what he told you? It wasn't going to be easy. You're not going to like it. It's It was going to be hard. It was a deep roller coaster ride of funk and dealing with stuff that I didn't want to deal with. And admitting to myself that I had just been terrible to myself and to others. So, I mean, it was. But you had to blaze that trail, man. Absolutely. And that's how you ended up here.

Absolutely. Right. And believe me, I shouldn't even have a podcast. I shouldn't even be alive. If you look at so many times that death has tried to take me, whether it's being beaten and falsely arrested by police at 12 or stung by 53Bs in the fourth grade or almost dying in a near fatal, fatal wreck at 19. But we're still here, brother, and we're still here for a purpose, and we're still here to help people and to show people that your story's not over yet.

Just because you were on drugs, just because your circumstances look bleak, just because you suffered financial hardships or pain, it doesn't mean your story's over. Okay? Whatever. it means is that you've got a story to tell and to share and to help other people that might be dealing with the same situations because everybody is going through stuff. Some people will put it out there. Some people will never talk about it until the day that they die. And my hope is that you can hear a story like chase-ons in just the first, you know, 14 minutes and say, wow, I thought my life was hard. I thought I went through a couple of things. If he can do it, if he can pull him out of what looked like probably the most horrendous situation that you'd ever want to even be in,

especially hearing it from a mentor, someone that you looked up to, but it was what you needed at the moment that you needed to get it. And so here's what I want to talk about now is let's talk about the climb out, right? Because you went through the process, you put in the reps, you did the hard stuff. I know it wasn't easy. I'm sure you disappointed yourself and other people in the process. And, you know, we're happy and we're sad. I mean, there's this, I'm sure, all the emotions. So can you walk the audience through? What was it like after you started to get back on solid ground?

You know, hit rock bottom and now you're in a place where you're climbing. So what did it feel like when you started to see again, you know, through your own eyes? Well, it's, it's liberating. It's empowering and it's liberating. And people talk about seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. It was bright, you know. and I could see that the things were starting to come together and that life was starting to be normalized in a fashion that made sense. And, you know, I still do the work.

I think the thing is that that the pattern and dealing with having an addictive personality and how your addictions will try to morph and run with you because you still have that real, because it's been there for so long, you spent half your life. life in this place that just doesn't go away automatically. So even at 60, I'm still doing the work. And over the last five years, I've probably done some even harder work than, or it adds hard of work that I did at that beginning, because now I'm talking about it where I didn't. I come from the boomers. We don't talk about our stuff in public. We don't have the these kind of conversations to try to help other people. We hide that stuff. And it's offended some of my family.

It's taken some people that I thought were friends have left. And it's created situations that were positive and situations where people are like, Sure. I have been blessed to be in the right place at the right time and walk through the doors that God has opened. And to understand that it's not my plan. It's not my plan. But his plan is perfect. And so if I've got the faith and the willingness to do the rips, to do the work, as you say, and to continue to do that, then I'm going to see even more light.

And I'm going to be able to impact not only my life, but leave a legacy of change and hope for other people's lives. Love it. And that's the plan. I love it. Love that. Yeah, I heard this pastor in our church, he said one time in a message. He said that instability is what creates stability, not the other way around. And unfortunately, as humans, we're always looking for the comfortable road. We're always looking for the stable stuff. And we have to actually go through the rockiness in order to get our bearings.

Isn't that so true, right? And it's when we can get to a place, and I think you hit it on the head, it's not that you've arrived. It's that you have clarity now. It's that you can see clear and you understand how hard the work. is. And that makes you more passionate about making sure that you are talking about it more, because that is part of the help. Part of the help is asking for it and having the hard conversations, the tough ones that people try to avoid because they're taboo topics. It's called real life, folks, because everybody has hardships and struggles and pain and sorrow and adversity. It's just

about, are we willing to face them or not? And are we willing to say, you know what, I don't have it all together, I need help. Or, hey, you know what? I apologize for this. And I think as men, our egos get so far in the dang way, I'm very guilty of this, where I just can't admit that I'm wrong, you know, and I don't want to apologize. And it's like, knucklehead. Knuckleheads, right? Like, just get out of our own way. That's sometimes, you know, and again, I'm preaching to myself here, speaking to myself, I do this a lot. And I'm like, why do we do this? It's because, you know, we think we just have our pride and ego and just gets in the dang way sometimes. So you talk, of course, about faith. And I know that means a lot to you. Is there somebody that, whether it's one of the groups or one of

the places that you went and invested time, and is there someone that, you know, kind of led you to researching more about faith and about God? Well, I grew up in the church. So my grandparents were missionaries. My grandmother played the piano and the organ. My grandfather was a pastor of Okay, so you got it honestly, you got it through osmosis, essentially. Yeah, my father was a music minister, family members that are deacons. Yeah, I was immersed in church as a child, and we spent three, four days a week in church. The problem was seeing my stepmother and knowing, hey, she's stealing money from me. She's doing, she's treating us really poorly and all the terrible things that she says and does to us mentally and physically.

and then seeing her on Wednesday night or Sunday morning or Sunday night in front of church members and how she act and that hypocrisy. It reminds me in the Bible and the tales of the scribes and Pharisees and how they put on airs for everybody else. But behind the scenes, they were horrible human beings. And I wrestled with that for many, many years. Yeah, that's a hard thing to wrestle with. But unfortunately, and you know, now, that's just, it's the condition of being human. Yep.

We are born into it, you know. And again, hindsight's always 2020, right? But like, sure. You know, know that now, but back then, of course, yeah, you don't, all you see is, what the heck? It's two different people. It's like, wait a minute, this doesn't add up. Yeah, I get, yeah, I would feel the same way. Yeah, that Jekyll and Hyde kind of thing that, you know, and it's funny that I, I had to learn that,

you know, God takes broken people. and you look at all the apostles and, you know, there's murderers and thieves and liars and adulters. There's all of these people that were broken that were human. And he said, you know, come with me and I'm going to make you fissures of men. I'm going to make it to where you're going to be a beacon on a hill. You're going to be a light and a pathway for others. And I had to come to the realization that we're all imperfect.

Yes. And I just needed to get a little bit better each day. and just keep following the word and keep walking the path and keep doing the things. That's it. And forget about judging other people or standing in that thunk of, I can't believe that I, you know, being so I was mistreated. It's not our right to be offended, you know. We should, you know, we have, unfortunately, you know, we are. You have to let it go.

You have to let it go. And so at the moments that, like I said, I think these last five years have been instrumental in. not only my own growth, but the growth of the things that I work on, because I've been able to step outside my comfort zone, do a lot of stretching, and really start to walk the talk and work, do the work and keep on the path that I was intended to take. And like you said, some of us knuckleheads take a little bit longer to get to the path. Man, you're telling me, you know, I didn't figure out until what I wanted to do for the rest of my life until it was like 39 or 40, right? And then there's days where I'm like, is that really what I want to do?

Right? We're still fumbling through. And I've got six kids, right, that I'm trying to be the best example for. And I'm still figuring it out, right? We all are still trying to figure this thing out. And I think for me, as long as I have, I realize that, you know, we are perfect people on an imperfect planet. Yeah. And people are going to disappoint us, you know, all the time. And it's not our job to ostracize them for it or keep, you know, harboring that anger and that resentment and that guilt. We just got to give it up because it's not ours to hold on to. It doesn't serve us well. You know, when we keep stuff in, it just does.

I know because I've been there. And I have let myself walk through those fogs of six months and not realizing that, you know, six months had gone by, right? And so we just have to figure out, you know, why do we do the things that we do? And so that's really what I want to talk about next because you mentioned that like this is your purpose, this is your passion, just helping people. And why is it? What makes you so passionate? Is it remembering the person and the place that you were in all those years ago and saying, I don't want people to have to experience that? I want people to get freedom from this. Is that part of it? I don't know. I'm just. Absolutely. Guessing. But I know why I do a lot of things I do, but I'd love to share with the audience. No, it's absolutely that. I mean, when I see that 44% of the United States workers don't make enough money to provide for themselves and their families, it breaks my heart. When we see the rise in food insecurity, in poverty, and homelessness in one of the wealthiest countries in the world, it breaks my heart.

And I live in a black and brown community that five out of ten people don't make a living wage. And there's 30% poverty. And yet it's celebrated as being one of the most financially sound cities on paper of any city in New York. And it blows my mind that we still haven't realized in a lot of ways that the P&L is not the entire story, that people are the entire story. And we can have a strong P&L, and we can pour into people and have people-first cultures, and that'll create a rippling effect that goes past the employee, past their families to communities and change these socioeconomics within those communities. And so, you know, yes, I'm extremely passionate about it.

We started out in 2022 with the nonprofit being about advocacy only, and just talking to leaders and giving them the information and standing firm with our different shows and platforms and really striking out to stand in the gap. And then it's created as we've moved on here a few years down the road to having programs that are boots on the ground to like, oh, we're going to show you. And we're going to talk about it. We've reached millions of people. But now we're going to show you and we're going to enact that, not only in the United

States, but in other countries. And that's powerful to me. We're creating hope and we're moving the needle by doing the work and not resting on any of those pieces as we get to them. The work is constant because people are in need. And again, it all falls back to I know exactly. I may not remember a lot of the things that I may not remember my childhood and I may have blocked out a lot of things where I was in trouble or have been just. blacked out because of the drugs and the alcohol and everything else. But I remember that feeling of not having a bank account, a dime to my name, not having a place to lay my head, not feeling

safe because I don't know where I am right now. I don't want people to have to go through that. There's a better way. Yeah. There's a better way. And it starts out by saying, you know, I need help. Yeah. I need help. That's it. And I love what you've built. You know, share a little bit about, you know, tell people the name of your nonprofit and share a little bit about some of those avenues that you just mentioned where people can get help, especially with boots on the ground. You never know. I mean, this is a show. We've got a global audience, people everywhere. You never know who maybe hears your story. Here's this message today and says, you know what? I want to be able to

contribute, whether that's through dollars, through food, through resources, whatever, whatever people want to contribute, because I know growing up, you know, super poor as well, food stamps. government housing, secondhand clothes, you know, some of the same things that you're talking about here, you know, I know I want to help. I know I want to be able to invest in getting people the resources that they need. So share a little bit about the charity, the name of it. We're obviously going to plug the website as well on the show notes at the end here. I appreciate that very much. Well, it's hr dash the number four, the letter you.org. And what we, our boots on the ground program that we started has five spokes, and it's called Transformation Kitchen. I think about the transformation

that I went through and the transformation that we have to go to get to hope. And so that's why it's called that. One of the first spokes is about reaching the food insecure. So what we do is we partner with chefs that have their own food truck until we get our own. I say yet because that hasn't happened yet, but it's going to. A food truck, contact Chase on. Okay. If you got a food. or access to one. They need a food truck, guys. And so we connect with chefs and owners that have food trucks. We will go and get sponsors. And once a month, we will go to an area that is really hit by food insecurity. We'll hit a food desert. We will create whatever food we get. We're from the food bank or from farms, et cetera. We'll take a look. It's like an episode of chopped. We're like, we look at

all this stuff and we go, okay, what can we create? We create a menu. And here's the cool thing. When we go to these areas, instead of handing out a bowl of soup or a sandwich, this is like you get what you, you know, that psychology of I only can get what you give me. Now, you get to order off the menu. So, wait a minute, I can do like everybody else and I can pick and choose. Yes, we're giving you that ability to feel how important you are and how incredible that feels to be able to say, oh, I want this and I'll take that. Okay, great. We're going to get that for you. Oh, no. By the way, here's some resources to help you with finding a house, you know, getting a living wage job, et cetera.

Here's some of our resources of what we're doing. So that's what. The second thing is we work with people that are going through their addiction, people that have been incarcerated and then are moving their way through to try to get a living wage job and we help them find living wage employment. We give them a holistic care. So we have a director of students. at wellness that meets with them and talks with them and gets into the shit with them. Then we have resources that we give them called microcourses. It's called Seven Taps and our buddy Tucker Baskom gives us this ability to share with his resilient network. We can share and just give these courses. So they learn about courageous conversations. They learn about leadership and management.

And so they get an entire well-rounded. training. So not only skills training, but these other trainings about life in general. And we want to create our own, have our own physical production kitchen to where we can feed the Boys and Girls Club at other places that need it, but we also can create bake goods because baking is kind of one of my passions. So we create baked goods that we can sell all over the United States and ship out. And then And thirdly, we have a breakfast spot that's a fast, casual spot. So the people, the students that are coming in, five each month, that will go through the doors and that's a three-month program and they get a living wage job and we employ as many as we

possibly can and then find the others that we can employ living wage employment with other partners. So you're creating this vacuum of constant change and hope within the community. and building success to where they have the ability to change their life. Then we have another spoke, and that is we are creating our first Transformation Kitchen in Madagalpa, Nicaragua. So with Rayao de Seoul, Nicaragua, Peter Shaler, we are going this year, and we are building our first international transformation kitchen.

He has a physical space there. That nonprofit does. And I'm going to spend two, three weeks in June. And we're going to build this sucker out and start helping people not only empower themselves, but create their own businesses in a very impoverished area. And the last spoke is that we teach culinary skills to the boys and girls club here locally to two different age groups of underserved kids and youth that want to learn and want to grow. So it's all of these things all in once to show.

show a community and build community and create change. It lights me up. And so, yeah, all of the things that we do, all of our other programs kind of take care of themselves because the board of directors and myself pay in each month to support those things. But now we're growing to such an extent in doing all these things, even in other countries. So we raise money to keep those wheels going and have that greater impact. Love it. Love it. Well, you know, it's, it's pretty awesome that it's called Transformation Kitchen because, I mean,

that's the whole goal, right? It's is you want to help transform their lives from the inside out. And you want them to see similar results that you've been able to see over your journey timeline. So I appreciate the work that you're doing. You know, I know that people are going to listen to this episode. And I'm hoping that they want to figure out how to get involved. You know, again, you can get involved by donating. You can get involved if you got a food truck laying around, they'd love one of those, right?

If you know folks that this is not just a mission that has a national cause. Like they're expanding to Nicaragua now this summer. So if you feel after you've heard, you know, Chase on story on the show that you want to contribute, jump over to the show notes, guys, make sure to check out all the resources and give what you can. Whether it's a dollar or whether it's a million bucks, I'm sure they'd be excited either way. You know, just the fact that you'd want to contribute and help people not, you know, locally, but also globally. Because food crisis is something that's, it's not just native to the states.

But unfortunately, it's bigger here than most people know about. So I love the fact that this is something that you're tackling. You know, I want to just say kudos to you for, you know, getting to the other side of the hard. And again, I know that life is still, that doesn't mean that you wake up and, it's sunshine and rainbows every day, but at least you've got a different lens that you're looking through that's keeping you going and that's keeping you, you know, put one foot in front of the other each day. So continue to blaze your own trail, my friend. Thanks so much for coming on the show. Thank you. I appreciate it. My pleasure.