Blaze Your Own Trail - S2:E10: From AwareLess to AwareNess With Noa Ronen

Episode Date: June 9, 2020

Noa is a Professional Certified Coach (PCC, CPCC) Trained with CTI and abide by the code of ethics of ICF. Associate coach with "the Choice in Coaching": Arbinger Mastery Advanced Program for advanced Coaches (ACN). Certified Master Tilt365 Practitioner - 360 assessment, personality type assessment and team assessment. CC, Toastmasters. Ronen holds a Master’s Degree in Business Management (MBA) from Derby University UK-Israel, and a Bachelor’s Degree in Business Management from Beer-Sheva University, Israel. International Coaching: Noa Coaches with the UN, UNDP Leadership Development Pathway Coaching Program since 2013, this is a special program to support executives all around the world. Noa is the NetExpat lead coach in North Carolina, a coaching services Relocation company. Noa coaches and trains expats and expat partners who move/repatriate to the US or relocate from the US to other countries. Connect with Noa: Website: https://www.noaronencoaching.com/ Grab No's Book- BEyond: Leadership From AwareLess To AwareNessBook: https://www.noaronencoaching.com/noa-book Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/noarcoach/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/noarcoach/ Love the show? Join our Facebook Group for behind the scenes content and to engage with other listeners! https://www.facebook.com/groups/blazeyourowntrailmastermind/ Installing strategic sales systems & processes will stop the constant revenue rollercoaster you might be facing which is attainable through our 6 Week Blazing Business Revenue Coaching ProgramBook a discovery call with Jordan now to learn more! Are you an entrepreneur?Join my FREE Group Coaching Community where we have live calls, Q&A and more! Our Trailblazer Ecosystem also enables you to network with other entrepreneurs and creator hub eliminates multiple subscriptions and logins creating a one stop shop to take action!Use code: FOUNDING100 for 12 months access FREE and Founding pricing for life! (While Supplies Last)Join now! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hey, everybody. Can't wait for you to hear this episode with Noah Ronan. She's a mother. She's a coach. She's an author and all-around great human. I can't wait to talk to you after the episode. Hello, everyone, and welcome to the Blaze Your Own Trail podcast. I'm your host, Jordan Mendoza. And I've got a very special guest today. Her name is Noah Ronan. And I'm going to give her just a second to give us a quick intro into who she is. and what she does. So hey Jordan, thank you so much for having me with you today. And I am an executive coach and business coach. And I'm also an author and keynote speaker. And I speak about and talk about and coach about and write about, how can we shift from doing leadership to being leaders? And I encourage business leaders and executives and individuals and individuals.

to never settle on the norms, kind of like blaze your own trail, to create the change that you care about. And sometimes, many times, to create the change you care about, you need to dare. And that takes a lot from you. And I believe that actions alone does create the change you want. You need to learn aware of your emotions and thoughts and then learn how to identify when they are positive and create momentum for you and influence and impact and when they're getting your way. Because if you don't create that awareness, you work on autopilot and then you become frustrated. And that's when sometimes I hear business people who tell me or leaders to tell me, I do everything, but I don't see results or I don't see consistent results.

So it's the learning of how you engage the being, the thoughts and emotions with the actions that you're taking. So that's it for now, at least. Awesome. Well, I definitely appreciate you sharing that. And so, you know, on my show, I always want to get context into how you got to where you are today. So I like to rewind. And so we're going to jump back into childhood. So can you give the audience some context of, you know, where you grew up?

You know, let's, and I'm talking about, you know, the formative years of elementary, middle school. And then we'll jump into high school after that. Oh, wow. Okay. So I will start with probably a question that pops into people's mind when they listen to me. And that's the question that I hear many times almost every day. Where is she from? So I'm originally from Israel.

And I grew up in a little town in Israel, was a village, a lot of green fields outside. And I was not really a tomboy, but I was an outdoor child. I was outdoors playing with animals and walking in, you know, alone in big field, having fun, a lot of imagination games in a way. And there was also the NOAA, you know, the social NOAA in elementary school that's very early. I think even in the, you know, in the kindergarten, I already knew that I am kind of like a leader that every time I suggest something. something. People are, kids are following me and being acknowledged as the leader by teachers of leading different activities. So that's, you know, when I look back in life, I can see, especially as a younger child, that I just knew that I was a leader. If I look at the family part, I was the youngest of four and my three older siblings are much. older than me. So they were kind of like a close club. So there are some places that until after today, I feel like I am a bit different. And especially I leave that since we moved to the U.S.

So I hope it makes sense that the picture I am sharing with you. Absolutely. Okay. And so where did you go to high school? Did you go to high school in Israel? Or did you already move out? Okay. So you went to high school? school in Israel. So what was that experience like there? You know, because for the audience, I want to give them context. So in Israel, when you're in high school, is do you speak Israeli or are there components of English that are integrated in school in there? I'm very curious about that. So second language you start when you are, I think, second or third grade. And today, I think they start even earlier. So you start with English very early.

And it's, you know, it's not as deep, but in high school, you definitely learn English. Then in university, most of the material is in English. English is very strong. Even today, there is kind of like a movement of stop speaking English while you speak Hebrew, because people start engaging it into their modern conversation in a way. So there is a pushback of speak Hebrew and stop. engaging every second word in English in a way. So just to give you a culture perspective,

some of the Israeli startups email each other in English, not even in Hebrew. Still, the languages are very different. So high school-wise, it's not around the sports teams like here, you know, raising kids here in high school now is very different. We moved with two little kids. So I was already married when we moved to the U.S. It was 14 years ago.

So high school there is not exciting. It's just like you come to school, you go to school. Nothing really, you know, it's mostly, you know, when I see my kids high school today, I tell them, you're really lucky kids. You don't appreciate it because my high school was really not exciting experience, not a lot of choices. You just come, you study, you dear things.

I think the main difference is that during the day, there is much more ability to social. There is recess time where we can play outside. Boys will play basketball and girls. And, you know, there is time to social that I don't see as much here with kids unless you go to the sports team and do the after-school activities. So we had that opportunity during school time with recess. We had recess every 45 minutes. So that's awesome. Time to gossip and to, yeah.

That is awesome. Okay. And so when you were in high school, did you know that the next step for you was university? Was that something that you wanted to do for yourself? Or was that something that, you know, your parents were, you know, drove you to go? I'm very curious to just hear because I think everyone's situation is a little bit different.

Yeah. So in Israel, you have to go to the Army. So 18 to 20, so girls go to the Army for at least two years and guys go for three years unless you become an officer and then you stay in the Army. So what you think really about when you are in your junior and senior year, is mostly about how your Army service is going to look like. Are you going to be a pilot? Are you going to fight?

Are you going to admin? Are you going to be more of the intelligence or computer areas? So there is a lot of thoughts, not about university. You actually take the time off from thinking about it and you think more about how your Army service is going to look like. And for me, there was a specific job that I wanted to do in the Army. And I had to go to a special assessment evaluation to see it was in the training area,

to see if I have the skills. I had to come for a whole day and be assessed if I have the skills to stand in front of an audience and train them and lead them in activities. And I had to sign extra three months to get a special training to become a trainer. in that area, which was awesome. And it goes with me until today. All the training that I got there really led my way to a lot of things that I do today because I stayed in the training area.

Even today, I do workshops. And yeah. Okay. That's great. And so thinking about your experience in the Army, was there someone that was influential for you, maybe a mentor or maybe a sergeant or somebody that if you really think about it, you feel like it was a big contributor to a lot of the successes that you have today? Not really.

I think it was the first time of experience freedom because I came from a house that my father was an officer in the army. So there was a very rigidness in the house of how you do things and, you know, very structured life. So for me, actually, the Army service was the first time I experienced freedom, which is kind of a paradox, and I love paradoxes. I didn't think about it until now, but it's actually a paradox, right? You go to an Army service that you must go to, but it was the first experience of freedom and the first experience of being on my own with a lot of different people that mostly you don't have the opportunity to be.

be with. If you want to talk about mentor, it was a boss letter in life when I was a change management consultant. So I can talk about hair more when you think we should. Okay. Yeah, no, that's that's perfect. That's perfect. So all right, so left the army. How long were you in? Were you there for two or did you, did you end up extending? Okay, so you did the two. So where was the next move after the army? What did you do? So that that was like straight to university, which is also not very common. In Israel, a lot of people go for travel. They work for a bit. You get some money from the government because you contributed some time to the country. And with those savings, many of the young people don't go straight to college. They first go to at least six months to a year

of travel. So if you think about it, if your kids go to college when they are 18, most people go to the college when they are 23 or 24. So I was one of the youngest in college because I grew up on do things fast, get whatever you need to get to be successful in life and having a college degree, at least master's degree is what will open doors for you. So I went to, I went to straight to college and that's where I started my business degree and then my MBA. And I was kind of like the baby compared to everyone else. And I think it's interesting to understand that cultures are very different. So yeah, I went to college. And so what are your thoughts on college today in 2020. You know, there's there's so much information out there. There's so many, you know,

positions and roles and things that people can do where you might not actually necessarily have to have a college degree. So what are your thoughts on like the education system here in the States versus Israel? And, and also what are your thoughts on, you know, if your kids said, hey, you know, mom, I don't know if I want to go. I think I want to be, I want to create, I mean, be a creator, I think I want to do this. Can you give the audience some context into what you think about that? So it's actually my reality right now because I have a junior and a sophomore and there are lots of conversations about that. So yes, college is very different here in Israel. In Israel, you kind of like, when you sign up, you sign up for a specific area. So if psychology or

or whatever, accounting or law school. So there are no kind of like open, you know, two years of just browsing through different subjects. And so here is where perspectives changed for me, if I can take a step back before I answer your question. I had very specific way of living in Israel And moving at the age of 30, 3-0, with two little kids, executive experience, and MBA, suddenly I thought that everything will be easy.

I will find a job very easily, but I didn't. It was a huge challenge for me to find what I wanted to do in Israel. And in a way, I didn't. And I had to restart, recreate my life and my path again. And I can tell you more later how I got into coaching, but when I took the coaching training to become a coach, it was the first time I enjoyed learning. It was the first time I saw how much I can get from studying something that I didn't get in my five years in the university before. It was special. It was real.

I had to do a lot of experimentation and learning that I've never experienced before. So now when I have this conversation with my son, I actually told him, if you don't see an added value in going to the university and college, don't go. Go and explore something else because I find more and more, you know, what I do as a coach. people come to me in the age of 40 and 30 and 50 and 60 and tell me I always did what the tribe or the people around me expected for me and now I want to do my thing and then we start blazing their trail. So I actually today believe that there are many different. It depends how motivated you are to do that and how much kids need to pay today to go to college, I think that

it's not always the only decision. And actually at the age of 18, I think it's very hard to know what you want, stressful. And there is a lot of stress that is being put on them from the age of 13 and 14 to make that decision, which I think it's just crazy because I sit with people at the age of 40 that don't know what they want to do. So that's my global meta view perspective about this topic. Yeah, no. And listen, I'm actually, I'm with you 100% because, like, I think you just said it perfectly. Like, there are people right now that have the kids that are 18 and they're still

don't know what they're doing with their life. You know? So how can you tell your child what they should do when you haven't figured it You know what I'm saying? And so I'm a big believer in that. So I didn't go to college and I didn't want to. I knew that it wasn't for me. Now, I was fortunate to be good at something like sales. I've been doing sales and marketing 25 years. I started when I was 14 years old going door to door and selling newspaper subscriptions to people. And when I tell you, that was the like that experience, like having to knock on a stranger's door and hear them tell me no and yell at me and cuss me out and. And, You know, I learned people skills. I learned how to, what a smile does, what eye contact does. I learned how to read body language. And that experience has literally paved the way for every role that I've ever been in.

It helps me in my corporate role. It helps me in my consulting business. It helps me with my podcast. It literally has helped me. And I did, there was zero dollars in investment, but my time went into that, you know. And so when I look at it and I think about it because people are like, you don't have a college degree. how did you get the job? I started at the bottom, right?

I had to start at the bottom and work my way up the ladder, right? And some people say, I would rather get a degree. And so I get the job that's already paying high. But that's a false expectation because most people, guess what? You've got a degree, but guess what you don't have? You don't have the experience. So now you're at the bottom with all this debt and I'm at the bottom with no debt. right so so you know i i actually am a believer in the way that i have a freshman in high school that's

our that's our oldest we have four kids right um and we're expecting our fifth uh at the end of june yeah so in addition to all the things that i do i'm i'm a busy dad as well and my son's a freshman and he doesn't he doesn't he doesn't enjoy he knows he has to go do it and i told him listen what's going to make me happy is that you're happy yeah i don't care what you do Your happiness is the most important thing. So if you want to be an entrepreneur, be an entrepreneur. If you want to be a juggler, I don't care. All I want for you is to be happy.

Yeah. Yeah, so I tell life it's not mine and you need to wake up every day and be in that college space or workspace. I will not need to be there. So it's not important what I think. I can share my opinion if you ask me for it. But actually it's very funny because sometimes I'm, I'm invited to panists, you know, to speak as a panellist about my experience with my business and my perspectives, which are a bit out of the box than other people. And so in one of the

panels, there was a person, one of the panelists said, you know, I didn't, I didn't take MBA, so I didn't know how to start my own business. And then I said, well, I do have MBA. And it didn't help me a bit with starting my own business. So I believe that this is really a lot of stuff that we do today is about experience. And you know what's happening right now with the COVID-19. The education system will change dramatically very soon. So yeah, it's hard for me to sit with my child and tell them I truly believe in this system 100%. Still, I respect their decision and where they will decide to go. Yeah.

That's awesome. All right. So finished up university. And when did you make your way to New York? You said it was 30 years old. But what year was that? When did you head to New York? 2005.

So I worked in human resources and management consulting roles with corporate. in Israel and then at the age of 30 my husband got the job opportunities in IT area and we decided to go for it. It wasn't a perfect time for me and it's never a perfect time to go for a two, three years relocation experience. But I felt that as a family, I felt that it's going to slow on, but as a family I felt that we can get so much. So we just decided to do it and took, you know, took two little kids and ourselves and moved to New York City and lived in Brooklyn for eight years. Yeah, so 2005. Okay. So you get to New York. Had you been to New York prior to moving there?

Just once. Being pregnant with my older son and really liked it, but you don't truly understand what does it mean to live in a different country? You think you know. And I think this is the main thing I talk about with people about change, is that no matter how a control freak you are, you think you know how the change is going to look like. You can design all the scenarios you can think about. But then in reality, the change looks very different.

And I think we experience that right now with the COVID-19. We think we know how it's going to look like, but we don't really know how it's going to look like. So it was a big change for me. Yeah. And, you know, I teach a six-month leadership program, and one of the classes is on change management, change acceptance, right? And the one thing that I've always realized about change is that, you know, people aren't against change, right? Because we change every day. Like, we've both changed since we've been on this interview.

Right. But what people don't like is being forced into that change. You know, when you're just forced, shoved into it, you know, people don't like that because they're not in control. Yeah. Because change really has to come from within. You know, we have to want to change. Exactly.

Right? It's got to be something that we've actually committed to. Yeah. And so what was your first role like in New York? And what are some things that you learned? in that role that has really helped you with the type of work that you do today? So, actually, my first role was to be a mother, to stay at home. And that was really hard for me.

I was not used. I was always working and suddenly being at home felt like I am slowing down. And rather than being present with the moment and being grateful that I have the time to be with my kids, I complained a lot. And then I started working in an Israeli nonprofit, which the only reason I went to work there was because the executive director told me, it's not 100% what you want, but I can see the you are,

and I know we can create whatever you're. you want together. And they said, if you promise me, I can do whatever I want, I will join this opportunity. But here is what I learned from that job, that it was not fulfilling, it was not exciting, it was too small for me. And I was trying in any way outside work with studying and and trying, you know, very, I thought was creative then to go and do what I did before, which worked in human resources. And when I failed in every way, I decided that it's time to give up. It got into a point where I tried to take a certification for human resources, and I failed

that exam twice. And I'm sharing this story. And I share a lot of messy stories from my life because I, I believe that's what can, I hopefully think will inspire someone that is in my, it was or is in the same situation like me, like I was, that taking that day when I failed the second time, I remember every moment from that, from that day and me leaving that space knowing the second time after for six months, months, for that exam to pass that certification.

And that was the moment when Universe was telling me, Noah, stop. Stop trying to live in your past. It's time for you to start being present with your life so you can create a future you want. And that was a shifting point for me. That was a shifting point from a very low place. I remember where I ate. It was an ugly place. You know, everything was horrible that day.

but it was that low moment in my life that I needed probably to get there and bump my head into the wall and fight with everyone and everything that I will get into that moment and say, okay, it's time to shift. And it's not at the moment I said it's time to shift everything right away shifted for me, but it was the beginning of recreating my life and saying, okay, you will not have what you had in Israel and you have to stop. start creating for yourself and your reality. Now, that makes sense. And, you know, I love that because everybody has a pivotal moment, right? Everybody has a moment that happens that fundamentally impacts your life, you know. And for you, like, you know, the way you explained it is you were at rock bottom and you were realizing that this is not a place that's going to continuously add value to you.

So you decided to take action. And as most of us know, when you take action, that action with consistency starts to create momentum and that momentum starts to create results, right? So actually for me, the action that I was taking was creative way of action. It was the time when blogging was like podcasting today. And I started blogging about being an Israeli mom in the U.S. and today I say that when you are lost, that's what I call the awareness part. You are aware less. That's where I was at the beginning, kind of like being on my autopilot, want to live in my past.

And then I was lost, but then in that moment that you're really, really lost, and we see that right now in this new reality, I became, I tapped into my creativity and I started blogging. And the second thing that happens in that moment is that you start creating connections with other people, rather than being alone in that experience and isolating without being even aware that you do that, you start connecting with people. So I believe when you are lost, there is that pivotal moment where creativity shows up, and that's why we see now people trying to recreate themselves, right? there is a lot of suddenly creativity happening around us or people taking on actions that they never took before that they were just thinking or trying to perfect so that what happened to me

they started blogging and from the blogging people start reaching out to me and then asked me to coach them so actually people saw in me something before I was able to see that in myself that happened again later on I became I went to the coached training and became a coach, certified coach, and then people said, we really like your ideas. Where can we hear you speaking? And I said, come on with my English. So I decided to go to TOSmasters and work on my confidence with speaking in English. I didn't ever have the problem on front of an audience, but it was the English part. So then I started talking and then people said, okay, cool, where can we find a book? And that's when I wrote a book about the, so it was

interesting to see again and again that people saw in me something before I was able to see that in myself and help me pave my way to move forward. So I believe it's creativity and connection that helps us move forward. I love that. And I think that's really good for the audience because I can relate to that a lot. You know, I, a year ago, I started creating content on LinkedIn, but I didn't create right away, right? I started consuming content. I started watching what people were doing. And I came across a guy that, you know, encouraged other people to take that first step, you know,

and we had like got on a phone call and he saw something in me that I didn't see in myself. And he said, hey, you have expertise in this. you have expertise in this, why don't you just start? Post your first video, right? And that, for me, was a pivotal moment. And then now, you know, a year later, I haven't looked back. So I can relate to, you know, other people seeing something in you. And then, you know, once they do that, that gives you this kind of new lift, right?

This confidence to say, maybe they're right. Like, why not me? Why not try? You know, why not, you know, go to Toastmasters and work on this so that I I can actually add value in this area, right? Yeah. Yeah, and it's amazing. You know, I play with the word B, right,

because I talk about the being of leadership. So I do believe that believing, you know, when you believe in another person, when you believe in yourself, it shifts your energy dramatically. And that's what happened to me. Rather than fighting with the world, with myself, with my fears,

I was able to move into action. Here is the deal when you don't believe in yourself, you take action, but you don't see results. And that can be very, very frustrating. And having that component of believing in yourself is what create dramatic change. Absolutely. Yeah, because, I mean, if we shift that to something like sales, right, what happens if you're a salesman and you're not confident in your product? people don't buy it, right? Because they can, it's almost like a, it's almost like a scent. You know, you can almost smell that they are not either bought into what they're selling or they're

just not confident. And so sales don't have, I remember being brand new in sales. I didn't sell a single thing the first day. I almost didn't go back for day two. But I'm glad that I did because I've had a long, you know, 25 years career in sales and marketing. But like, you know, I wasn't, like nobody bought anything. So of course, my confidence, everybody told me no that first day. And so sometimes it's hard, right? It's hard when you let that get to you. So I had to really shift my perspective and realize that, you know, what if I shifted it and said, you know, instead of no meaning no, maybe it stands for next opportunity. And so that made me go out and search for noes and any yes that I got was just a bonus, you know? Yeah. But I think for for us as humans, that's an easy place.

to get. A lot of us can get caught in our own heads. In our own heads and in our own emotions, it depends, you know, where we go. But yeah, you know, I came from human resources. So when I went to interviews here in the U.S., I knew what I need to say, how I need to show up, but it's the same, right? You sell yourself. So externally, I was doing everything right. But internally, there was a voice. voice that was telling me, no one will hire you with your lousy English. So people smell that. People can sense that.

And no matter how much they say fake it until you make it, yes. And you need to believe internally that what you're faking, you will make it. Because if you don't, it's too big off a gap. And that's why I say that it's so important to know what's going inside rather than pushing it away and say, I'm going to keep just doing. No, you can't just do because you will stay with the same results that you don't want to see. That's exactly it. And I was in Orlando about a week before all the COVID stuff happened. We had some team meetings down there.

And we had an outside facilitator come in. And I don't know where he got the quote from or who he heard it from. but it really will make a lot of sense to this part of the conversation we've been having. And what he said is that the inner game controls the outer game, right? And I firmly believe in that, right? If we're confident on the inside, it's going to show up on the outside. If we're not, guess what? It's not going to show up on the outside.

Yeah, and I call it the force. I truly believe that the being is a force. and it can be a positive force and it can be a stopping force. And think about it. For example, someone that is grieving. And you come to them and you say, and grief, there is a right, lots of emotions and thoughts, that overwhelm us. And then you come to them and say, let's do something. And they just push you.

They will not move, right? Or we want to do something, but it feels so big that we feel so strong. that we feel so stuck and we're so frustrated with that. So it can be a force that stops us. And by the way, you talked before about change. So one of the things I am working with executives, they don't realize that the unconscious experience they are having is that when they want to create a change,

and it can be an amazing change, that doesn't mean that it's bad. But they come into the room and they push it on people and there are emotions in the room that they ignore or thoughts in the room that they ignore and people just resist them strongly and they might slow the process for those people that try to lead the change but if you dare if you if you have the courage to tell to the people that you see executives and leaders are not stupid they can sense when people in the room are resisting them So rather than ignoring them and just push them into action, I encourage them to bring the conversation and say, hey, guys, I can see that I'm trying to move staff into action, but there are some concerns in the room. And let's talk about them. And I will start with mine. So you can't ask another person to move first before you move first. I will never move before you show me you're willing to do that before me.

Don't ask me to do stuff before you show me you are willing to take that step. So when I say I'm afraid of something or I'm concerned about something or this is what I feel, then suddenly you hear all the other people in the room talking and it's not about creating a drama, but it's addressing that force and only then people are ready to move move into action. And when we ignore that, that's why, you know, that's why you said before. People don't really resist the change. It's not just that they don't want to change, but we need to create a space for them to express what's need to be expressed.

Yeah, no, I really believe in that. It's about creating that environment, you know. And, you know, another thing that I do with change is, you know, you have to get other stakeholders involved. You know, you've got to have people that are advocates for whatever it is that you're going to change. right so you have to have certain people that are that are bought in and when you're looking at it especially from a corporate standpoint um so when it comes to to coaching because i i think we've we've we've now made it to the to the point you know you've you've gone through this this journey from

you know growing up in israel going to high school there going to college or going to the army into college working for a non-profit getting a corporate role and so what what led you to north Carolina. That's what I'm curious about. You know, you came from New York to North Carolina and a lot of people would say, you know, most people probably want to go from North Carolina to New York. So, what was it that brought you guys there? Was it your, you know, work for you or maybe your husband's role that brought you there or did you have family or friends? Again, my husband, no, all the family is still in Israel. But yeah, again, my husband with a different, he started working in New York city for a different company and they decided to move much of their company to North Carolina to the

Raleigh area. And I have to say that it wasn't after eight years in Brooklyn. And when you move with two little kids, it's different than when you're moving in a young age, you know, after college to start working, moving to New York City with two little kids from another country, no family. You know, it's not an age that people start creating friendships, right? But we created roots. We had a community. And I have to say that Raleigh is a beautiful area.

But I think the thing that I was said the most is to say goodbye to the community I created for the family. And knowing that when you move to a new place, it takes a, you know, until you adjust, it's about two years. I work with some people in the area of relocation that move from other countries. So it takes about two years to adjust. But to be part of the community, if everyone is thinking about it, it takes more. It takes time. But yeah, now we are six years into living here. So we have a wonderful community and it's a wonderful area. Yeah. So I love. learned a lot about myself in this move. Awesome. All right. So let's talk about a little bit about what you do for coaching. Okay. So, you know, you got, you got certified as a coach. And so

what was, what was your experience like taking on your first client? And what were some lessons, what were some lessons that you learned with your first client that kind of paved the way with how you do things today? It's such an awesome question. Thank you for asking. That So first, that client is also in my book. Her art is in my book. And it just made me realize. So she's an artist from Blin. She was also Israeli.

And when she started working with me, she said, well, I tried everything. I tried yoga. I tried walking. And I feel like I need something else. And she wanted to go back to this to create again. and we worked together and there was also an issue of a job. And what's interesting that we were able to working from a place of the limiting, self-limiting belief of no one will take me with my experience, with who I am, with my age,

to, and of course everything I'm sharing is because, she's letting me. So coaching is confidential. So I have to mention that to a place of having a job on her terms and having the time. So what happens many times when people are, I say that it's not about the problem where they are stuck with. They are stuck with a solution. and let me explain what I mean. Think about it. Many times we say we can't do it because this is the only way to do it. That's how we see it in our head.

And what I like to do when I work with my client, so it doesn't matter if you're an executive or a person that's looking for a new path in your life or business, we believe that this is the only way we can do that. For example, I can't be a good manager because, the old manager was such a good communicator, or I can't have a business because I don't know how to speak, okay, or I don't know social media. And then we don't do anything because we believe that this is the only solution, and we are stuck on that. So what I do is I say, what about another solution? So for her, it was, I need to work, I can't work part-time. So we figure out

that there is a way for her to work part-time and create and go back to the studio. Now she has exhibitions. And actually what she does is really, in a way, blazing her own trail. She create arts around the canvas. So you can work around the canvas and see things all over the canvas. It's not just from the front. So it's really that new perspective of from the, from there is one solution and that's why I don't do anything to I can do it my own way.

I have to be an empathic leader. So I may only care about the results. So that's why I'm not a good leader. So all these different things that we have there in our head that really make us feel stuck. Very cool. Very cool. Well, definitely, you know, you definitely have added a lot of value. and I know that, you know, people that are listening are going to want to figure out how they can get in touch with you.

So can you give the audience some context? So do you only do one-on-one coaching? Have you ever offered group coaching? Yeah. What type of services do you offer for those that are listening? Yeah. So actually, I have masterminds that you can be part of a group and get the support that you need. And I love mastermind.

So I do some face to face and I do online. So right now it's probably more of an online platform for you guys. I work with people from all around the world. So that's, I think, the cool thing about coaching. So there is the one-on-one. There is the masterminds. And of course, I also speak in different events. So if you're interested for me to come and speak.

And if you want to also read the book, so I'm on Amazon, beyond the leadership from the awareness to, from awareness to awareness. And every part talks, the first part talks about awareness, then it talks about awareness and then awareness. And there is also a model. So it's not just theory. There is also a way to work with the book if someone wants. Very good.

And do you have a website that you can share? And again, I'll make sure that all this is down in the show notes. But what's the best place to reach you? I know you're, I know we connected on LinkedIn, so I know you're there. So what other social platforms are you on if people want to reach you? Yeah, I am on Instagram and LinkedIn and Facebook mostly. And it goes by my first name, which is Noah, NOA, no age. It's NOA.

And then R for my last name coach. So NOAA are coach and it's the same on all different social medias. I'm really strong on LinkedIn. I'm vlogging there. Mostly, I call it on the run after I run. So I look very sweaty and reddish, but it's my thoughts after I run. So that's the on the run videos. And then my website is NOAA, NOAA RONN, RONN, RONN, COaching.

Noah Runancoaching.com. So try to keep it simple. Awesome. Yeah. Thank you. Awesome. Well, listen, this has been great. I really appreciate you taking the time out of your schedule to come on.

the show. I know this is going to definitely add a lot of value to the audience. And, you know, I definitely wish you the best with the book. I'm going to go on Amazon and grab a copy myself. You know, that's one thing. I love to support my guests. So I'll definitely be checking that out. And thank you so much, Noah, for coming on the Blaz Your Own Chow podcast. Thank you. It was a real pleasure talking with you and having a great conversation. I appreciate that. Thank you. And I hope at least one person guys. something from our conversation. All it takes is one, right? As long as we can inspire one person a day, that's 365 yearly opportunities. So thanks again. Yeah. Thank you. Wow, what an awesome episode

with Noah Ronan. She definitely has some experience. So if you are looking for a coach or if you thought the conversation was interesting, grab a copy of her book. I'll make sure that all that info is down in the show notes and like always make sure if you haven't already please subscribe to the show we want to impact as many people around the world as possible and also don't forget to rate us and review us on iTunes that will definitely help us move up in the rankings as always I look forward to chatting with you on the next episode