Blind Plea - Listen Now: Stolen Voices of Dole Valley
Episode Date: August 19, 2025We’re excited to share a new podcast from Lemonada Media: Stolen Voices of Dole Valley, a nine-part series about survival, injustice, and the fight for answers. It’s the story of a predato...r you’ve likely never heard of — one who prowled the Pacific Northwest in the 1970s, when hitchhiking was a rite of passage for many young people. Some young women managed to escape him, but their warnings were ignored. One survivor’s account was dismissed by police, leaving the man free to kidnap and murder others. Police believe this killer was responsible for far more than the two murders he was convicted of, and decades later, families and investigators are still determined to uncover the truth. With new DNA testing and relentless hope, loved ones are refusing to let their daughters and sisters be forgotten. After you listen to this preview, search for Stolen Voices of Dole Valley in your favorite podcast app to hear the rest of the series, or https://lemonada.lnk.to/StolenVoicesofDoleValleyfdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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have you ever come across a story that just won't let you go hi i'm carolmosoreo and i'd like to tell you
about my new podcast stolen voices of dole valley i started investigating after i heard the
incredible account of a woman who survived a kidnapping
by a serial killer, a predator I'd never heard of before diving into this case.
Her courage to share her experience left a deep mark on me.
When I learned the police didn't believe her story, I got angry.
My anger turned to outrage when I learned more young women were killed after her escape,
because police not only dismissed her but didn't investigate.
Years later, other missing and murdered young women would be attributed to this same killer.
Stolen Voices of Dole Valley is dedicated to telling their stories,
shining a light on the injustice they faced,
and following the ongoing fight to secure the justice they deserve.
I invite you to listen to this powerful clip from our very first episode.
Welcome to Stolen Voices of Dole Valley.
This series contains descriptions of sexual and physical violence throughout.
Listener discretion is advised.
Rope. To look at it, it's what?
Something so simple that we're not.
We probably hardly ever think about it in our daily lives.
Strands of plant fiber braided together into a thicker, stronger string.
But really, it's so much more.
Now, you might be thinking why in a podcast series about a Washington State serial killer
am I discussing rope?
Because when that predator decided to bind 15-year-old Norma-Gene countrymen,
he failed to realize that one young girl's will to live was stronger than the individual fibers that made up his bindings.
It was July of 1974, and teenage Norma was faced with a situation few among us will ever have to contend with.
she had been abducted by a killer tightly bound in an impossible web of coarse rope wrapped around her ankles and wrists
and she'd been strung up between two trees and the question was then before her what was she willing to do to survive
Norma's day, before she was faced with this question, had started out just like any other summer day.
It was the afternoon, and she'd been killing time smoking a cigarette on the side of the road in Ridgefield,
a rural town north of Portland, just over the Washington border.
You might be wondering why Norma was sitting on the side of the road, smoking alone.
Well, the truth is, she didn't have to be.
have many friends. She was lonely and vulnerable. It was a little after five in the afternoon
that day, as Norma smoked and watched cars whizzed without even a hint towards acknowledging
her existence. But then, everything changed in an instant with breaklights. A blue van
made a U-turn and doubled back, and passed her driving slowly.
The young man behind the wheel gave her a look that caused Norma's heart to beat faster,
especially as he made another U-turn in his sky-blue, 1973 Ford O'Connelline van,
and rolled up right next to Norma.
The stranger was handsome.
He had light brown shoulder-length hair and a mustache.
He offered her a ride home.
At first, Norma refused.
But when he asked again, in a split-second decision,
she accepted his offer and climbed up into the killer's van.
But he never took her home.
He kept driving.
Then pulled over, saying he had to go to the bathroom.
When he returned to the van, he pulled a knife on Norma,
then tightly bound her wrists and ankles with rope.
He cut off her bra and shoved it in her mouth as a gag
and wrapped rope across her mouth to muffle her screams.
Then he carried her deep into the woods of
Southern Washington State. Once arrived at his preferred location, he strung her between two trees
in the wilderness like a human hammock. Here's 15-year-old Norma describing her abduction.
And he tied it around another tree and pulled it tied so I could hardly breathe. And then he
hit me real hard. It's where I almost whacked out and he told me that he was going to wait
out there and I didn't know how long he was going to wait. And if I made any fuss,
but he'd come back and what he just gave me with a sample,
was being mild compared to what I would get.
And then, after threatening her not to move or make any noise,
the man disappeared and left Norma dangling.
And the question became,
what was she willing to do to survive?
What could she do?
here's Norma today describing what she had to do at 15 to get free of her bindings
pushing with my heels to get closer to the tree and I could get close enough that I could turn my
head and I would use my front teeth to saw on the rope in my mouth and in doing it I was
scraping my face on the bark, and I was chewing and sawing.
She managed to chew through the rope, which was so tight against her skin,
that she had to chew through part of her own lip.
And when it broke, I rolled down from the tree, my head rolled down onto the ground,
and I lay there for a few seconds, and the thing that went through my head was,
if he comes back and finds me like this, he really well killed me.
she would escape her bonds and the serial killer that day just barely but norma's nightmare was
just beginning because when she went to police and told them what had happened to her they
didn't believe her story as a result she would forever be bound psychologically to this stranger
because in her mind it got twisted somehow it was her fault that she wasn't believed it felt like her fault
when the stranger went on killing and so that's what i lived my life with was that guilt that i couldn't make
him believe me and so two women were dead and the other woman was a wreck it only i had been able to make
can believe me until I find out that he didn't even bother. He didn't even bother to do any
kind of investigating after that. The pain and suffering caused by this serial killer is deep
and relentless. And 50 years later, the killer has yet to be held fully accountable.
There are still so many unanswered questions, so many threads that's
still need pulling. In part, because the evidence proving the man who abducted Norma was a serial
killer has only recently come to light. Unbelievable, even with the passage of so much time,
there is hope in this case yet. I began the series talking about rope, how alone each
of these fibers were weak and breakable.
Thankfully, that's what allowed Norma
to painstakingly gnaw
through each individual strand.
Conversely, natural rope,
when braided together, forms
something powerful.
And so it is with this case.
At the time these crimes were happening,
there was Norma, who wasn't believed,
witnesses who weren't properly interviewed,
and evidence that was lost or misplaced.
In many ways, this is a bizarre and unbelievable story.
But when you weave together the individual strands,
stories of the victims, families, survivors, and witnesses,
the strength of these stories becomes undeniable.
Retired Clark County Sheriff's Office Detective,
I love the strands on the rope store. I don't think we'd be here if you hadn't been doing this.
I don't know whether just harping on the prosecutor and sheriff would have been enough.
Everyone's feeling like this is the big deal that we say it is. And it's coming at them from
multiple directions. So hang in there with us. Trust me, we're not going anywhere.
I'm your host, Carolyn Osorio. You're listening to Stolen
voices of Dole Valley, Episode 1, The Ties That Bind.
I'm a Seattle journalist, and when I heard about Norma Jean's incredible story of survival,
how she narrowly escaped a killer, and yet was not believed, I got angry.
that prompted me to dig deeper. As I started to peel back the layers of Norma's story,
it revealed victim after victim, multiple young women and their ties to one man, a serial predator
who made Dole Valley his hunting ground. As I kept digging through boxes of police files and court
records, I kept getting angrier. These women and girls were not only discarded, but in many cases,
forgotten. The police investigations bungled in some instances. If not for the work of dedicated
women, a sister, a survivor, and an investigator, these files would still be collecting dust. Because of
their actions and others who would join them, a cold case unit is active again. I would learn
that this story doesn't begin with Norma Jean Countryman.
Trust me, we'll get to Norma later in the series,
but to truly understand the weight of this story,
we have to start at the beginning
with a girl named Jamie Grissom.
A 16-year-old Jamie disappeared three years
before Norma was adopted.
My first name is Star with two hours,
my last name, Laura, L-A-R-R-A-R-R-A-R-E.
Jamie was my sister, Jamie Griswain.
Starr and her older sister, Jamie,
were essentially Irish twins, 13 months apart.
Star was three, and Jamie was four,
when they became wards of the state.
Their father was in prison,
their mother, in the throes of mental illness.
They found us living in a car with her,
and she had said that she was,
waiting for the FBI because there was a gang after her.
And she had schizophrenia, it was what it was.
Over the years, the girls would move from foster home to foster home.
There were some kindnesses punctuated by Dickensian-style abuse.
She primarily wanted us there for free labor.
When they became eligible for adoption, at the ages of eight and nine, they made an oath to
each other, to stay together no matter what.
But that wasn't in their control.
And Jamie and I had a pact, you know, we would never be adopted separately.
And they had sent us to one home, and they decided girls cried too much with what they
said.
So we went to two different homes.
In the summer of 1971, after being separated for a year, Star and, Star and
and Jamie went to live with a woman named Grace at her farmhouse in Minnehaha, a rural
neighborhood outside of Vancouver, Washington. The girls had lived with Grace twice before,
but those had been temporary placements. Grace was older and had a weak heart. Even though Grace
was a little gruff, she welcomed the girls into her home. She cooked fried chicken, mashed
potatoes. Every night we would have cornbread with dinner. Grace's farmhouse was about two and a half
miles from town. Surrounded by nearby cattle and sheep farms, the girls loved walking to
Oscar's convenience store to buy penny candy. We'd walk down the little store and they had like these,
we called them moon drops. They were chocolate. Inside they'd be different colors like one would be pink.
The sisters began to feel hopeful.
at long last with Grace.
They were together
and they dared to envision
a bright future.
They had no way of knowing
that a predator
was lurking nearby.
When you found that out,
how far away
or how close was he
to Grace's house?
Less than two miles.
And when you think of
how remote it was,
that's pretty close.
You know, back then, two miles was nothing, you know.
Just like Jamie walked to school, and that was like two and a half miles.
And we walked past that a lot, you know, that home.
On December 7, 1971, the girls awoke to a winter wonderland.
A late autumn storm had left a blanket of snow covering the countryside.
But this snow was the beginning of a brutal,
cold winter that dug in and held fast, frigid temperatures, and a historic level of snowfall.
That morning, Jamie and her sister Star had woken up early to wrap Christmas presents before
school while their foster mother, Grace, was still in bed.
You know, it was around Christmas time, so we'd been wrapping presents that morning.
And she did the whole hurling of the ribbons and stuff.
And we were sitting there talking.
And I remember what she was wearing.
16-year-old Jamie wore blue jeans, a red and white striped blouse with puffy sleeves and white canvas tennis shoes.
With the words, peace and love, she'd written on the sides.
I remember sitting across from her.
And, you know, it comes to mind her beautiful eyes, you know.
She had the most beautiful brown eyes.
Starr was still in junior high, but Jamie was a freshman at Fort Vancouver High School,
which meant she had to leave her school first.
But right after she left, she came back.
It was a very cold day, you know, when you breathe out, you can see your breath.
It was in the 20s.
After a few minutes, she comes back in.
And I said, why are you back in?
She said, well, it's so cold out there.
And she said, I came to check on Grace, and she had a bad heart.
So she went in and checked her.
As she left again, Jamie told Starr to remind their foster mother she'd be home from school early.
She says, Star, I'll be sure to tell Grace that I'm walking home from school.
I'll be home between 1 and 1.30.
Jamie made it to school that morning.
But she never made it back home.
When Starr got back to the house
and saw that Jamie wasn't there,
she was immediately concerned.
It wasn't like her sister not to come home,
especially when she made an extra point for her to tell Grace
that she'd be there at around one o'clock.
I got back between 3.30 and 4 on junior high,
I noticed Jamie wasn't there, and I said, where's Jamie?
She told me she'd be home between 1 and 1.30.
She wanted me to be sure and tell you.
I said, something's not right.
That day, Star sat glued to a chair in front of Grace's big picture window
with a direct view of the road, watching, waiting for Jamie to come down.
She tried to ignore her thumping heart, and the knots
twisting in her stomach.
Children who've experienced trauma
know real trouble when it comes
because they haven't had the luxury
to be shielded from it.
So Starr knew,
down to the marrow of her bones,
that something horrible had happened
or was happening to her sister right then,
the person that she loved most in the world.
Star didn't believe Grace
when she told her it was going to be okay.
She waited by the window,
staring out at the growing snow as the sunset.
That night, at 10.45 p.m.,
Jamie and Starr's social worker
went to the Clark County Sheriff's Office
to report Jamie missing.
That night, the deputy on duty filed a, quote,
complaint report.
Under the nature of the complaint,
he typed, quote,
signed runaway.
According to Starr, the social worker was told that evening
Jamie couldn't be officially reported as a missing person
until she'd been gone for 30 days
and that the social worker was very angry,
insisting that Jamie was in danger,
that she had not run away.
I wrote an email to retired Clark County detective Doug Mass.
I asked him what the policy was back.
then when it came to reporting a missing person. Doug wrote back that the quote 30 day law relates
to the waiting period before entering the person as officially missing into the national and state
missing person system. He said there was no law that specified a waiting period for the local
agency to take and file the report locally. Bottom line, no one from law enforcement
went looking for Jamie that night,
or in the days or months following her disappearance.
Star told police that her sister would never abandon her.
She tried to tell them their theory that Jamie was a runaway didn't even make sense.
Jamie had worked all summer to put $80 in her bank account,
equivalent to more than $600 today.
If she were running away, wouldn't she have withdrawn?
on the money first, but Star couldn't get them to listen.
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