Blocks w/ Neal Brennan - Brad Williams

Episode Date: May 28, 2026

Neal Brennan interviews Brad Williams (New special: Live on Short Street) about his experience living with dwarfism, the guilt he felt after his daughter was born with the same disability, how he learned to reframe his thinking and approach parenting in a positive manner, the arc of his standup career, why Ari Shaffir said no one wants to follow him on stage, the fears no one else sees (why Brad won't drink around drunk people), his marriage, and much more. Subscribe to Brad Williams  @BradWilliamsComedy  Watch Brad Williams: Live on Short Street: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXDA3HHcq5E 00:00 Intro 2:08 Dwarfism 10:32 Is dwarfism an advantage in comedy? 13:06 Childhood 17:58 Peter Dinklage 21:16 Sponsor: CookUnity 23:34 Sponsor: ZocDoc 25:37 Dating 50:48 Sponsor: Tushy 52:59 Sponsor: Amentara 56:05 Sponsor: Quince 57:55 Imposter Syndrome 1:01:44 His Daughter 1:19:02 Health & Gratitude Thanks to our sponsors! Visit https://www.CookUnity.com/NEAL and use promo code NEAL for 50% off your order. Go to https://www.ZocDoc.com/NEAL to book a top rated doctor today. Visit https://www.hellotushy.com and use promo code NEAL for 10% off your first bidet order. Go to https://www.Amentara.com/Go/Neal and use promo code Blocks22 for 22% off your first order. Visit https://www.Quince.com/NEAL for free shipping & 365-day returns ---------------------------------------------------------- Follow Neal Brennan: https://www.instagram.com/nealbrennan https://twitter.com/nealbrennan https://www.tiktok.com/@mrnealbrennan Watch Neal Brennan: Crazy Good on Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/title/81728557 Watch Neal Brennan: Blocks on Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/title/81036234 Theme music by Electric Guest (unreleased). Edited by Will Hagle Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Guys, my get, I'm looking up and down if you're listening. My guest today is a great comic. He's got a bunch of specials on YouTube. The newest one is called Live on Short Street. He's on tour now called the International Tall Tales Tour. Are you noticing a pattern in these titles? Guys, he is a little person. What?

If you're listening, that sounded like a little, that's how a little person would react. Are you a dwarf? Yeah. Oh, so can I call you a dwarf? Yeah. He's a dwarf. Yeah, I got dwarf. Way funnier.

Way funnier. Yeah. Dwarf is funnier than a little person. So much funnier. Yeah. And midgett's funnier than both of them. It really is. Yep.

I can say it. Yep. Thank you. That's no further question, John. The, and his name is. Brad Williams, ladies and gentlemen. Brad Williams, he didn't have any blocks when he came in, and I told him right, and he gave me two.

I did not know I was supposed to do. I know. I was not told. But I listened to the show. I really enjoyed the episode with Kevin Neeland. He didn't really have that many blocks. He had some. Yeah.

He had some good ones. But like, I've got some trauma if you eat some. Look, there's a lot of complaining on here. Sure. That's unjustified. Yes. And when no bigger, no bigger perp than me, right? I'm the king of the unjustified complaint.

Okay. Now, you've always had a really sunny disposition. Yeah. And I say sunny because he's the size of my son. Guys, I'm sitting, they're gonna come up. It's natural. It's fine. This is like pause on Cameron's podcast.

full as well. There's what they go pause. I'm gonna say pause, but for Dwarf, little person joke. Um, I love them. They're funny. They're fun. They're fun.

Yeah, they're fun to do. The only dwarf jokes that like, like, I'm, that I'm bothered by are the ones that are just too simple and too easy. Yeah. Uh, if anyone says like, hey, like if I post a video and they're like, ah, that joke came up short, I'm like, oh, I've never heard

Method Man said that to me. Yes, that's right. I'm going to try to drop more names in this podcast than you. Not possible. You got to wake up early in the morning. I did a rap battle against Nikki Glazer on a show called Drop the Mic on TBS. Nicky had a talk show all about sex looking at her's obvious why it wasn't a success. And Method Man was the judge.

And he said, Brad, that rap came up short. Did it get laughs? Of course it did. He came up a little short, Brad. Look me! I don't like it. That is everyone's like... I know.

Get her done with me. Like, they can just say that and they know that the crowd will explode. Do you consider a disability? Yeah, I do. But in the sort of spectrum of disability, like I don't see someone with

muscular dystrophy or cystic fibrosis and go, hey, man, same. Yeah. I know how it is. Like, I don't do that. I'm not, like, it, it is disability because there are certain things that are harder for me to do physically than someone who does not have dwarfism. Yeah. But, I mean, I did a podcast one time.

I'm going to drop another name with the wrestler the big show, and he's over seven feet tall. And ironically, you're O for two on name drop. Meth, man. Wu Tang. Okay, I'll give you a metaman. But yeah, I got you. All right. But he and I actually had like, we did a podcast together and we actually have a lot of the same

issues. You and Big Show? Yeah. Like he's seven foot two, I'm four foot four. But clothes really hard to find. Cars, really hard to fit in. Yeah. Now you might think, oh, Brad, on an airplane, you have plenty of room, but my legs are dangling.

That sucks. They fall asleep. fall asleep. I have to wear a compression sock so I don't like clot. You know, that's really. See, that's, okay, this is what's interesting because we had a conversation one time. Montreal. I remember this. We were talking about drinking and safety. Yeah. And you told me something about your own personal safety that I, it's, it's, it's, it's riveting to me. Please repeat it. Yeah. And that is. And I'll sell ads. against it. Go ahead. Sure. When I'm out and I'm drinking, I'm really cautious around drunk people because I know that they look at me and immediately they want to pick me up. Yes. It was, it was similar.

It was like, it was, we were talking about like dressing women dressing to sexy or what, blaming the victim, but whatever. Sure. But there was something in, like you said you don't, on Saturday nights on the road, you will not drink. Yeah. I go. I go right back to the hotel. Because you truly, like, have to get off the street. Yeah, because there's picking up, there's tossing, there's stuff like that that people just think, yeah, he's at a bar, he's probably the entertainment,

it's okay, you know, like, and that is something that I do live with, is that there's certain fears that other people don't even realize and certain struggles that people don't even realize. I'm not saying my life is horrible. No, no, no, no, no. Just saying. That was just one of those scenes of like, you don't know.

You go, oh. Someone's. Like, the same way, a comic I take with me frequently on the road is a great comedian. Her name is Sarah Keller. And we were doing a show and then I walked her to her car. And then she just looked at me and goes, thank you for walking me to my car. And I'm like, what do you mean? She's like, it's terrifying.

And I'm like, what? Every time? She's like, yeah. every time. Yeah. Checking into hotel rooms for her when, when, you know, she's an attractive woman. When she goes down the hallway, she always looks behind her to check and make sure no one's, no guy is following her to her hotel room. And that was one of those moments for me where I was like, holy, I never even considered that. Yeah. Never even thought of a woman having to go through that. Now, the crazy part is she pulled away and a guy came and picked you up. She was protecting me. She was fine. She's long gone. She doesn't even know what happened until she listens to this. A guy tossed you in the bushes. Yeah. And it was a good talk. It was a heave.

It was a real heave. It was an arch on that thing. And did you? Did, yeah, like, so, so obviously that must have happened. Well, what happened. At some point, meaning you, you stop, you realize, like, wait a minute. Yeah. I mean, I've been picked up before, and that was always something.

I get, like, furious hearing about it. Yeah. Like, what do you? you okay tell me what it's like i mean it it is all control being completely taken away whereas someone lifts me if i don't know you and you're lifting me up why are you lifting me up yeah are you lifting me up to put me on a bar stool because you think that's what i'm trying to do are you going to put me on the bar are you are you going to spike me like a football are you trying to see how far you're going to throw me are you are you going to toss me to your friend

i have no idea what's happening and in many cases i i can't control it so i've literally broken three noses in my life because of other people because as soon as you start lifting me I throw my head back as hard as I can and that is my like armadillo curling up into a ball sort of self-defense mechanism

and I yeah so I've popped three noses which is a great feeling do they drop you yes and then they blame me right but do they drop you are you cool are you far well you're pretty high up

Like, the times that that's happened, it was like they were lifting me, but when they dropped me, it's like, okay, my legs are under me. But the other reason why I'm terrified of this is I have a friend who is a little person where he got picked up and a guy literally started like running with him to, I don't know, show another friend. And then while he was running with him, tripped and fell and landed on my buddy. And he had a really rough go for a while and still has probably. to this day because of that. So from a guy picking it up. Yeah. I'm so mad.

Yeah. And that's part of the, it's something that as a little person you live with, kind of like, Asians have to live with this whole like model minority thing where everyone kind of like, white people kind of look at them and like, oh, well, you're the gold standard. And some of them are only 20,000. Some of them are only 20th in their class. It's embarrassing. I know.

And then little people have to live with like, oh, we're the disability that it's completely acceptable to make fun of and physically violate in some cases. So, and that's like, that's something that you have to live with and deal with. It's the reason why I say I don't fear death, but I fear the jokes that are made about my death, because however I die, it's going to be funny. Like, however, you can't name a death that's not funny if a dwarf is involved. Like I mean, lung cancer? I don't know. Don't challenge me.

You can ride. No, it's not the death. He was just a little sick. I mean, come on. No, it's the hurts. It's the casket. It's the, I mean, there's way, it's the, you bear, you got to wear you in a shoebox. Yeah.

And you wait for another couple dwarfs to die. You can get, you can go. on the on the on the grave site you know what I mean I mean look it's after the death yeah that but yeah you'll be gone yeah exactly so that so that's something I have to live with now there as I tell people when so I've had people ask me like now in comedy is dwarfism an advantage and I and I was given this answer I go at first yes because you get noticed yeah you stand out And when people are trying to book a show and they don't just want,

I like, I, wike, I, wike, I like, oh, let's throw in a little person. That counts as, that counts as our minority for the show. Yeah, so it's good at first, but then it's bad later because then a lot of people think, oh, that's all you are. You're just the dwarf that comes out and make short jokes. And yeah, you know, that's it.

And it's like, well, no, I can do more than that. I have more material. It's not just about dwarfism, but, But for a lot of people, if I tell like one dwarf joke in an hour, they'd be like, ah, you see? Yeah. There it is. There's the crutch.

And it's like, well, I'm doing it because. Well, I mean, do you kind of have to acknowledge it? Yes. Do you try to, do you have a, I'll do one up front and then. There is a philosophy of, okay. A surprise him with a tag later. Yeah. Like, let's get it over with.

Yeah. Let's get a, let's do a, bu, blah, blah, rapid fire in the beginning. And then I can get another talk. And then now I will fully admit that I use it as a crutch if I don't know how to end a joke. Right. Where I'm like, oh, I have this good premise, but it doesn't.

Tiny crunch. Tiny Tim's crutch. And yeah, then I will say that I use it then, but it's a- But you're not proud of it. No, and also I don't know how to write jokes from the perspective of a six-foot-tall man. I only know how to write jokes from my perspective.

Yeah. So it's like, it's gonna come up. Yeah, I don't, I mean, any, I mean, it's like I've heard people go, if you weren't ex, you'd have no, I've heard about every single. Yeah, fat comics are like, oh, you only make fat jokes. It's like, it's like, but we, you talk about who you are as a person on stage, you talk about being vegan on stage.

I don't go to you and go, well, if you just ate meat, you would have no act. It's getting there. If you were just conservative, you would have no act. I mean, again. I'll tell you what, this mom, Donnie. This guy's like being like every other mayor in New York's history. But with a grocery store.

So well, when you're a kid, were your high school friends? Was everybody always pretty nice? Yeah. I was everybody's buddy. Like, yeah. People assume that I had a really traumatic childhood because I'm a comic or whatever, and I also have dwarfism. It's like, no, I did really cool childhood. Yeah.

Great parents and friends that were there for me. Yeah. And like, but I would always make the first joke and then everyone, all right, he's cool. And then it was fine. I had a great childhood, great friends. So I wasn't like, now I wasn't getting late all the time. I was everybody's buddy. But, and that's when I was like, ooh, I need to be.

I mean, you know what? That's not necessarily dwarfism. Yeah. There were lots of five foot, ten guys. Yeah. Five foot, eleven, six feet. I could get two different heights of guys that weren't getting like. Yeah.

That's not, that's just high school. Yeah, that's just high school. There was one guy in every school that was just getting tons of pussy. Yeah. And we all thought, well, that's the standard. Yes. And to that guy from my high school, Tony, shout out. I went to Catholic school, so it was a priest.

Okay. The, okay, so, but you know, you're not especially prone to self-pity. No. No, my, my dad wouldn't let me. What was his, were your parents' dwarfs? No. Okay. Parents are not dwarfs, but my dad.

This before the internet, when you could look up. How do I raise? How do I comb a dwarf's hair? It's too, it's not even easy, it's fun. It is. Um, my son is a YouTube. What, okay, so they were like, are you the only child? Uh, there's two kids.

My sister is also average size. So, like, and I'm, I'm the only dwarf in the entire extended family. Like, we looked. We, like, we, we, we hired a private investigator. Who did this? We asked relatives, like, were there any dwarf the family? Yeah. And, so, but it is a private investigator.

but it is a recessive gene so it can kind of hang on for a bit it is also a genetic mutation so sometimes it could pop up and lucky me here we go but my dad raised me with an attitude of do not feel sorry

for yourself and also that people if you he's kind of indirectly a weird kind of like Buddhist thought where he's like if you are feeling sorry for yourself people will feel sorry for you

but if you you don't, then they won't. Like it's kind of this thing where you project what you want. And he's like, if you're just down in the dumps and saying, oh, oh, woe is me, your life is going to be shit. But if you're out there and you're like positive and you show people that all the, all the fun that you can't have in the life that you can't live, it's going to be fun. It's good. You know what's funny. There are people that want people to feel sorry for themselves. Yeah. Because I kind of, sorry for you. because I kind of think I was one of those,

or like something. Sure. Empathy, pity, whatever. But so that's, that's an interesting point of view. And did you, did you fight him on it? Were you like, but come on? There were times. There were moments.

You know, we all have our low points. You don't get it. We all have our low points, which is weird a dwarf saying that. But yeah, we all have times where we're like, oh, man, this sucks. But kind of to your perspective, yeah, there was a five-foot-five guy in five-foot-eight guy in high school that wasn't getting late.

Yeah. Everyone's got something that they had to deal with. That, and my dad did something really cool is when he found out that I was going to be a little person, he would start going to these LPA, little people of America meetings just and just sitting there and just listening and just. Are they like 12-step meetings? No, but they're like meetings and there are some group, there's some help groups, but there's a lot of organizational stuff and like putting together activities. and he would talk to little people afterward.

And he told me that at one meeting, he just stood up at the end and said, hey, all you guys are just talking about how crappy your life is. I have a son. He's a little person. What am I going to tell him in terms of like, can I have something good?

And one of the, they loved it. Yeah. One of little people came up to him and said, yeah, everyone remembers you. And so everyone's trying to stand. out everyone's trying to be memorable and your kid's going to have that now that that's a double edge sword in itself because it's one of the reasons why i can't commit crimes everyone remembers

yeah uh but um yeah but that was and he would tell me that and i'd be like oh yeah okay everyone everyone remembers me and getting into comedy that was really helpful because did you well that's what i was going to say did you obviously you're funny so you and you you wanted to be in comedy from whatever age, right? Yeah. And then, and then, well, is there a temptation to, does it feel like you're limited as a dwarf? Does it feel like I'm limited to,

I mean, there's like the thing you go, well, I'm not gonna be one of Sanders helps. Like I just flatly refuse. At first, a ton of, it's only fans for, yeah, it's only fans for, it really is. At first, there was definitely that thing of, I'll do anything. Like, I'll do anything to do Hollywood if you want to be the leprechaun, okay.

Yeah. Yeah. Maybe whatever. And then I've been on a lot of other podcast talking shit about Pierre Dinklage, but I will say something about really great about him is that he really showed that you could draw that line in the sand and like, what's shit talking is there? Ah, he said a thing on Marin's podcast, which kind of led to Disney taking dwarves out of the snow white the lot the live action

so right and kind of yeah but I bet his intentions were decent hopefully and my whole thing was with him is that he didn't want dwarves in the snow white movie but then he was in the movie tiptoes which is the most offensive movie to little people ever made so it's like okay

yeah you can't get in the door you made the money yeah you can't get in the door and then close up the tiny ladder guys they they're I'd be dishonest it would be malpractice tonight make these jokes. So I have talked shit about him in that in that way. But at the same time, he really revolutionized the acting world for little people. Well, that's, Dinklage is, to me,

must, he must he's a bit of like a Sydney Portier, right? Like, oh, that's in terms of like, he didn't, he didn't, he wasn't a stereotype. He wasn't like he's an angry. He's just like a person. Yeah. And because some people bring up the elf scene. Does Santa know that you left the workshop? You know, we're all laughing our heads off. But even. But even. Even in that scene, he's the badass. So it's like he ran, he dropped kicks Will Ferrell. He's the guy getting offended rightfully. Yeah.

And bragging about all the pussy that he gets. So it's like, okay, he even showed in that role that he could be a badass. And when he did S&L, he went in the writer's room on the first day and said, no dwarf sketches, no dwarf jokes. You know, whether I agree with that or not, I respect him for it. Yeah. So, I mean, so he kind of showed that, oh, we don't have to be just. The funny thing is I'm sure there were three or four that were fucking hilarious. Oh, are you kidding me?

That were hilarious. The SNL room. Yeah. They have a dwarf host. Yeah. Here we go. You know, but again, they're not going to do the hacky ones. They're going to do like.

Yeah, you got like good writers. Yeah, you got really great writers in those kind of Harvard funny guys that'll think of the. I don't even think it's Harvard guys anymore. No. Joe's, I think, is the only one. Okay. Hopefully he'll catch a break. We all pray for that.

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That's Zocdoc.com slash N-A-L. Thank you, Zoc-Doc for sponsoring this message. Yes, so, okay, so you don't, you're not prone to self-pity. No. And you try to have some standards about like you're not going to accept like half a life. You're not going to accept like the the the, it's what I call doing the dishes. You're not going to accept like no, you can but yeah. Like your wife is tall.

Yes. I did it. Yeah. I mean that's right. there hanging up okay so so you've got you you meet her and would she you dated did you date little people and and and yeah I dated little people for a long time a they they said yes is it is it a bit of a is there a thing like black men dating white women is it so there is a bit of like don't sell out yes there absolutely

It's human beings. Yeah, man. It's weird. And... Did you feel that way about women? About little women? So I was told... Not the...

Not the book. Not the book and not the two recent... Not the Greta Gerwig remake and the one from the 90s. And... Winona Ryder. And not the reality show. Little People Big World? No, there was a...

There was a reality show called Little Women, L.A., little women, New York. I dated two cast members. Did they, was that a come up? Is it like you, they were like, they are the finest? Or are they just the most bipolar alcoholics? Because it's a reality. There was a part of me when I was dating dwarf women that I was saying like,

I have to have the most attractive dwarf woman. Talking about a trophy one. Yeah. Yeah, literal. No, she was really the model for the trophy wife. Yeah. Right, one to one. Yeah, and so I dated dwarf women, and it was great,

because I was also told by both my family and by other little people that, like, no, no, no, you date a dwarf because if a tall woman is into you, it's because of either like money or a fetish or something like that. So you can't, you can't go there. You can't trust them. Yeah, because that's not going to last. They're like, they're a tourist. Yes.

And that, that weighed on me a lot. Like, did it weigh on your choices or weighed on you'd be with a tall woman and be like, I don't trust her? It was that. I didn't trust for a long time. Like, I would look at tall women like, okay, I'll date them, but I'm going to eventually marry a little bit. person.

That's fascinating. Yeah. Were you right? Or were they did it? Would they spend a lot of time trying to convince you that like I'm here for the right reasons? Yes. Yes.

It was very, it was very bachelor. It was where and the in many of them were to be fair. The right reasons. Yeah. And it just didn't work out for whatever reason. But then it wasn't because it was a little person and so that but it took me a long time. and someone say I'm, I'm, I'm still not over that. Like, I'm, it's kind of the reason I'm also a comedian.

You need that constant positive reinforcement. Like, and I've, and I've told my wife this. I go, I, you have to compliment me, like, a lot. Like, and you have, you have to compliment my looks. Because. Because. Because. Why?

Because of the lack of, like, if something goes wrong in my. relationships with average-sized women I immediately think okay here we go the bloom is off the rose like they now see me for as just a dwarf as not attractive what's the thing that goes wrong oh just common fights it's like not even like just when so if you just have a if you have a argument about like you were late or she was late yeah or whatever you then go to it's because I'm a dwarf yeah it's not healthy I go to therapy why is that that That's really interesting. Yeah.

That's maybe the most interesting block we've ever had. Yes. That's really interesting. Yeah. So you, why? Tell me what's the therapist say? Therapists have told me because many things in my life have been because I am a little person. Negative things.

Yeah, many, many negative things. So it is also because I could. get a standing ovation at a theater. I could come off stage, kiss my beautiful wife and be walking back to that hotel and someone will see me and just go, fucking midget, and it's right back down, right back down. Because I'm like, yep, that's all I am. That's all I ever will be. I cannot be anything more than that. Like, dude, we, we had to leave a birthday party that my daughter was at, I left because there was a kid that just was following me going, you're so little. Oh my God, you're not even a man. You're so little. She called me not real dad. And she and like just like following

me around. And I was like, I got to get out of here. And I left the party because it's like I can't. And so it's like in my head, I go no matter what I achieved, no matter what I do, it's always going to be. but you're just a little person. So in my relationships, that also comes up a lot where it's like when there's a rocky road where there's a disagreement, it's because I'm a little person

and you're going to leave. And that's, I'm dealing with that now. My wife has been with me for eight years. I think she's good. Yeah. I tell myself all the time, I go, I think she does love me because... Two more. Oh, yeah, two beer. I'll trust it in tomorrow.

I say that I think she does love me because it's like if she leaves today, she gets a house, some money. I know. Yeah. Well, that's the other thing is, is, I mean, dude, it's everybody's got. I mean, and not like I'm telling you anything, you don't know, but like everybody's got some. I'm just, uh, yeah, whether it's good or bad. Yeah. Do you know what I mean?

Like whether it's, it's, there's always reasons to not trust people. Oh, yeah. Like, even when you become super. famous and admired and adored. Now it's like, oh, they don't like, Michael Jordan says, oh, they only like me because I'm Michael Jordan. Yeah.

Oh, so that's how you can play it. Not because I'm an actual person. So it's like. But meanwhile, you want people to like you because you're Michael Jordan. You know what I mean? Like that's the thing about like, oh, you only like, it's like, you spent all of your time practicing basketball.

Yes. Now you're mad at me because I'm aware of it. And in awe. Yeah. Yeah. So if you like me just because. because I'm funny, cool. Yeah. I'm all about that.

Yeah. Because I've worked really hard at that. Yeah. So that's like validating. Like I said, I am working on it. That is what they call a breakthrough we had in therapy where it was just like I was. Better help.

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It's so funny word that's the funny thing about therapy. It's like you didn't know that yeah Everything in therapy is like you know what it might be this thing I you know I got molested I don't think it's that though and then you keep digging for Yeah. Oh yeah I think I think I think I think I've been thinking about it it might have been my parents divorce now I know my dad punched me in the face and saying it's my Probably not. Probably not that. I think it's because I have a roommate. But because I'm too good looking. Yeah, that that's what it is. Do you so when you told your wife, would she like, no kidding? Uh, because I'm, I'm curious as the need. I don't, I don't think I'm needy in my relationship in that way. Like I don't need. I'm like, I'm never going to say like, do you think I'm funny? I'm not going to like. I'm, I just, I've got like too much.

I have like com hacky comedian pride where I'm like I'm not gonna be so much a hacky comedian in like I'm not gonna be I'm I refuse to be like a hack in the relationship like do you think of fun yeah or or or the hacky guy like you fucking more like I'm just not I just refuse yeah but what did you what did so do you need a lot of you so you need a lot of approval yeah I need a lot of approval and And it sounds cheesy, but a lot of it was like, my wife would say that she gives me approval because she cooks for me.

Right. Yeah. And like does a lot of things for the business for me and does so many things for me. And it's that whole like love language thing where I'm like, oh, you making me dinner, was you saying you love me. Is that what you meant? Yeah, which once again, like therapy,

it's like that should be very obvious. but you don't see it at the time. And I'm like, okay, well, my thing is like, I never feel attractive. So you, if you literally give me a hug, hold my hand, just as you walk by, like, run your fingers across the back of my neck, like, that's gonna be, that's my thing where I go.

That'll be incidental half the time. Just walking. I mean, would it kill you? Literally the least you can do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And did you know that at the beginning? In terms of what I needed? Yeah. No. I did not.

So were you mad? Or were you, would fight start and you real, and it was about that or unsatisfied? Yeah, like fights would start and then it's a, it sounds, once again, it sounds cheesy as hell, but it is amazing what you discover when you actually talk stuff out. I've never yelled in a fight. I don't. I feel like once you start yelling,

the other person will shut down and not really hear you. So even when I'm furious, like I do not yell. So we would have these. I think it wakes them up. You didn't aggressive. Somebody's broken an Irish cat. Your turn to camera. Nothing greater.

Your turn to camera is your Ron White sip the whiskey. I believe. It's just the punchline of every joke. It's a nice one. It's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, It's, it's, I mean, it is funny like, shutting down, you're, that's what the point is. You're trying to annihilate them. Well, I know you don't want to.

That's not the point of my friends. I know. Yeah, but. What is the point of your fights? To be heard. Got it. To get like, hey, I felt this way. This is why.

Were you always that way? Yeah. Got it. But you didn't know. I mean, the thing with, with like, if you need more compliments. Mm-hmm. it is a bit of like a do you go like ah I'm sorry could you give me one more or is it it would just sort of like it would just sort of manifested in otherwise it would it would be like other ways but what what I what I just discovered is and and that's kind of what we talked about is when when I would talk stuff out she would list all the ways like no but I did this I I did X Y Z which is how I say I love you and I was like oh oh okay I didn't see I didn't see that it's also if you're not I

think we we assume everyone's like us you always assume that you're normal is everyone else is normal a thief always assumes everyone's a thief yeah so it's like that's whatever you like you assume that's what the other person like and were you showering her with compliments oh yeah I'm like where's it yeah no it's just imagine wait it up Yeah, because that's my thing. And for hers, it's the whole acts of service. Yeah. So, like, for me to say, I love you to her in a way that makes her feel more fulfilled

is for me to do and take things off her list, like, her list of things to do. Like, it's to, like, don't worry, I already walk the dogs. Like, I wake up at 6 a.m. every morning. I go downstairs. I make her coffee. I make the lunch for the kid. And then, like, that's my way of, right. all right, here's a few things off of your list

that I can do. Yeah. That and then I write because that's the only time the house is quiet, but yeah. Were you always doing that? Was that always your schedule? Yeah, I was always an early guy.

Yeah, it was weird. Okay, so you figure that out. That's really interesting because it, and have you... I've never revealed that on a podcast before. Thank you. Have you made it... Now do you need it less?

and you just go like, can you convert acts of service into a compliment? Now that I'm aware of what that sort of language is for her, she can do something and like she can be really stressed out and still be like, oh, I have to make Brad dinner. And then making dinner. And I'm like, thank you. Yeah. That's really sweet of you.

Yeah. That you took time to do that. So, yeah, I can see that now. I still got to work on it, but I see it better. that thing about I'll always just be a dwarf it's like yeah really it's heavy yeah it's it's it's heavy it's obviously like I'll always just be a what a black I mean the list is yeah whatever whatever it is and and and the thing is is I I I know that I can't do that but it's hard because it manifests itself in other ways like if I don't get it a show if I don't get a certain thing, if I don't work, if I don't get a part, if I don't get this certain

accolade in the business, it's like, oh, it's because. Well, I mean, if I may, if I, if I may, it's a good cover as somebody who like, if I don't get something, it's because like they don't think I'm funny, which is worse. That's way worse. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, control that. Well, in a way.

I can't, but like, but at least it's not a recessive gene. Yes, my father was funny. His father is a recessive gene, but but. Then the non-funny just popped up in me. No, yeah. But that is a, if you, that's the silver lining. Like there is an upside. It is just like, it is like, ah, they don't like because I'm black.

And it's like, no, you're an asshole. Yeah. Or they don't like. It's like they don't. There's many things about different people that they can lean on in terms of why people don't like them. But that's what I love most about doing comedy is especially being a little person

who wanted to be in show business. That was, he said he made that. I did. Yes, I did. That was a Freudian slip who was quite short as well. I have no idea. I just said that to fit the joke. But like when you're an actor, to me that's so many,

So many hurdles have to be crossed by other people. Like other people have to allow you in. They have to give you the part. Yeah. They have to get. Yeah. Like so many things have to happen for you to succeed that are completely on on other people. We all know people who have gotten cast in shows that then get canceled after a week when it's like they thought that that was the thing.

Yeah. They finally did it. And they're gone. So what I love about stand-up is that it's just me. It's fair. It's terrifyingly fair. Yeah. If you bombed, that was you.

That was your fault. Yeah. And you have to figure that out. Is there a thing where it's like, you know, I keep using black as an analogy, right? Yeah, this and club shay-shay are the blackest podcasts I have done. Hello. Brad Williams. I made it.

I made it to the close. There is a thing where it's like, again, I'm not black, I'm OJ. I'm not black. I'm OJ. You can supersede it or you can transcend it. Is there a thing in your head that if you do X, you'll no longer be a little person? And I know that sounds insane. But do you know what I mean?

Like is there or or is it just like this is you finally accept? it on this podcast. Yeah. I'm leaning more towards the accept it because I know for a fact that if I got, if I won... Especially because you know what's going to happen after you die.

Yeah. Jokes. Lots of jokes. If I won the Academy Award for Best Actor in a part that was not written for a dwarf that I beat out average size actors to get,

I know that I would get that Oscar be like, hell yes. This is awesome. And then at the after party, someone would somebody's gonna say something. Yeah, someone's gonna say something fucked up. And that's just, so it's more of the acceptance. And I also look at, I look at what I've been able to do in my career and go like, well, I didn't have that model that taught me to do this as a little person. Like if you look, there have been great dwarf comics, but like I'll throw out,

Tan Uly Davis who had her name on the comedy store before me but like I look I look around like there wasn't a little person selling out theaters doing stand-up comedy like so I'm kind of

I'm kind of making my way without that guide right now and it is really interesting because now there's other little people out there that'll write me and say that they're getting into comedy and because they're like oh yeah oh Brad can do it. And the cool part about stand-up, another cool part, other than it being just just, is that as a dwarf actor, I'm saying the lines that an average-sized writer wrote.

And the director directed and the producer, like, it's their perspective, not mine. Comedy, it's all me. I'm the writer. I'm the producer. I'm the director. I will take the audience where I want them to go. I will give them the message that I want to give them. It is my job to convey that message.

Right. That's the part I love. the most what i what i'm what i'm as your therapist what i would take you hoping for is it's the it's like the the the thing about like when you get it's like i don't even agree with this but people said like the getting defended by the n-word it's like it gives the person it gives so much power away it becomes like a magic word and whether it's whether it's mid whatever yeah something fucked up about you i and maybe i'm it's easy for me to say uh because i'm uh such a handsome white man but but uh is there a way that you can just

get it take it out of the take it off the table i i there's probably isn't but i'm but i want it for i'm like yeah like it doesn't uh do you know what i mean like it's funny because we're kind of kind of analyzing each other. You are definitely a helper where like and you empathize and right now you're like, how can I help? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Brad. How can I make this happen? Yeah.

And the thing is, is I don't- Outline. Yeah, you are. Guys. You are. And the truth of the matter is I don't think it can, at least not for a while or there has to be more dwarf comedians or more little people in the public eye. Like, Dinklage is starting to.

Right, but he really is. Statistically, how many are there? One in every 38,000 births? So, I don't know. Divide that. I'm not sure. So he's not autistic. No, it's just a heck of a way to find out.

No, the is. That's not very many. Yeah, the ism I have is just dwarfism. That's just not that many. Yeah. Should I look at, well, whatever. So I guess it's... To the point where I just,

But you didn't bug you. Yeah. I, of course it, I mean, I'm bugged by everything. So like, I can't, you know, it's. To the point where it's like, I'm a lot of people's only dwarf friend. So, and for a lot of people that watch me do stand up, I'm the first, I'm the, I'm the, I'm the, the, the, the first interaction they've had with the little person other than like watching Dinklage in a movie or watching Opa Lumpas or whatever. So it's like, it's like a lot of things where it's just exposed. Yeah. It's just getting people out there and having people like I had thoughts about certain people

before I met them and then you meet them you're like oh I was way off with this like you know so whether it be gay culture whether it be black culture would be any minority it's just being around them more often to where you can go oh I was yeah way wrong it's they're just boring like everybody yeah it's boring and stupid like everybody except the Mexicans they are not Oh man, oh man. They are so fun. They bring fireworks. The parties.

I mean, forget it. They're awesome. Okay. Yeah, I mean, I guess, yeah, I guess there's no. So it's like that's your, that's your, that's gonna be your block for kind of forever. And like, yeah, unless. That's my lowercase to bear. Yeah.

I thought of it. Um, the, uh, the. Yeah. Yeah, and has gotten better? Yeah, it's gotten better because... Because you know what, it's... That ruins everything. Yeah.

Literally. You can let that ruin everything. Anything and everything. So it is getting better in terms of the career, now that I've been doing this, 22 years, and having other comedians when I show up to clubs and like not like give me respect but like give me compliments and give me respect

and uh I remember on the Rogan podcast it was they were they were doing it was Joe uh Shane Gillis Ari and Mark Norman they were doing Protect Our Parks and they said who's a comic that no one wants to follow and Ari said Brad Williams Yeah oh yeah I was going to say that in your intro Like and that like I've told Ari how much

that compliment meant to me. And the fact that, because I look at all four of those guys as really, really great comics, and they all agree. They weren't like, nah. They're like, yeah, I see it. So that, like stuff like that really does help. And I go, holy crap,

I'm doing it. Like I yeah, dude, I got to say I mean, it's an advantage without being a crutch. I like that. That's what it, it's Because it is like, you should be a writer. Because when I'm on, I used to me.

Don't make me again. The, the, because it's you can, you can make the audience. You can catalyze a room. Mm-hmm. Which is, and it's, obviously your spirit, but it's like, it's part, your, our bodies are part of it. Yeah. You know what I mean?

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Yeah, I mean, I can't make you see it as an advantage, but. Yeah. It can, it, if you could get 50, 50 on it. Well, and one thing that I, one thing that I've realized is that the, the audience, I see dwarfism. The audience sees whatever their thing is as the dwarfism. Hmm. So like, if, because, and that's the one thing you find out doing stand up is so, many things that you think are just yours yeah only yours yeah are relatable to so many people like

i get so who's in your audience it's it's it's a melting pot yeah it it is a melting pot thank you club shay-shay uh it is amazing how popular that podcast did it did it help with tickets it was ridiculous that's right it was awesome you just did it like a month ago yeah like and you literally saw the right you really saw the spike uh but it it it is um my audience is mixed like there are because I'm doing theaters so they're not really they let in everybody in terms of they don't like they let in kids so like 12 year olds will come up yeah yeah 12 year olds be like you're my favorite comedian I'm like yeah and I'm always looking at the parents like what are you doing yeah but and then there'll be eight year old people you know uh women men

black white like the whole thing it like it's really because everyone sees my dwarfism as whatever for their thing. It's their sexism, it's their racism, it's their, whatever. Right. Disability, they're whatever. Yeah, so it's like that has, that has also helped me in terms of, hey, dumb ass, you're not, you're not so fucking special,

but only you are dealing with this thing. There's a term that I heard in, from the AA community, which is terminally unique. Which is what, which is so, it's so devastating. Like, you're not so terminally, you think like, Only I go through this. Yeah, we're all the star in our own movie. So we all think it's like, oh, it's all about us.

And then you talk to other people for two seconds and you go, holy crap. You had to deal with that. Yeah. You know, like I can only imagine. Yeah. So, yeah, it's been in doing now the theaters where people are now seeking me out and not just like any comedian. Any comedian. Like, hey, we're going to go.

We're gonna go to the comedy club. Who's playing? Whoever. Yeah. Like now that people are like, no, we're going to go see Brad Williams. I'm really seeing what the comedy is doing for the audience. Yeah. And I use that word intentionally doing for them.

Yeah. And I go, holy shit. Okay. Okay. This is, this is something here. Yeah. Stop saying it. It's nauseating.

And pretentious. Stop. I might cut it. I might do your favorite cut it up. Every dwarf reference? No, no, no, no. There, I'm doubling those out. I'm going to come back after you're going to do extra.

Add more jokes. The doing for the audience. Yes. Even I'm as pretenses as I am. Three Mike's guys. This is a big block. I thought we had a bigger one, but this might be bigger. Okay, so I remember when your wife was pregnant and you didn't know if your daughter was going to be.

tall or a dwarf. And you're here for the reveal. Yes, my daughter is also a little person. She's six years old. She has a conterplastic dwarfism just like me. And yeah, so, and we found that out while still pregnant. And when we found out my block is the in insane amount of guilt that I had going, oh my God, I have passed this on.

Like the insane amount of guilt knowing that I've succeeded. I've done it. I've had a great life and holy crap I won. And now it's like now she's got to do that as a little person. And she's a little person because of me. And that was an insane amount of guilt. and knowing that whatever struggles, complications that were dwarf related, like she had to have a surgery at age two where they had to,

it's spinal decompression where they opened up, her head was too tight around her spine. So they had to open it up. And like, I'm sitting there going, I did that to her. Yeah. And that's, that wasn't, that's an insane amount of guilt. Yeah. That's, that's, that's, that's, I would find that pretty close to unbearable. Yeah.

Now you can't do anything about it. Right. But other than just slowly eat your, eat your insides. Well, I had two people in my life. And, and I've told him this, but I haven't said this publicly. So I'll, I'll, I'll, uh, scoop. Yeah. Uh, jose.

Jensen Karp, do you know who he is? Yeah. I was doing a morning radio show with him, and I said this off air that, like, I know, I'm feeling this guilt because she's a little person, and then he looked at me and was like, yeah, but who better to teach a dwarf than you? Yeah.

And I was like, holy shit. And then I had said that to my wife as well, and she's like, yeah, who better than you? Like, you're the guy. Yeah. Like they're in my wife. You're one of the top dwarfs. Yeah.

I'm one of the top. Like when, and my wife told me where she goes, there's, there's, there, everyone's born and is going through this life like not quite knowing what's going to happen. She has the roadmap in, in front of her because of you. So she's like, there will always be dwarfs in this world whether we had a kid or not. Our, our kids the luckiest one. So yeah. Jensen and my wife, big shout out to them.

Because they really helped me with that. What were the odds? One in four. Yeah. I mean, so, so, okay, so you like, you knew go, it. That's the thing about kids is you can't, like a kid going in for surgery. Yeah.

Is, if you're going to surgery, you're like, fucking, just shoot me up the shit. Yeah. Chop me up. You're the parent. You're the parent and they're little and it's like this is really hard to deal with. And that's the, you forget that they're a person and that they're going to be able to deal with it. Yeah.

And when I think about it in terms of there's so many parents out there that their kid has whatever condition and they don't know about it. Yeah. They don't know. I could have had a child with some sort of condition that I was completely unaware of and then had to learn on the fly. This is one where I'm like, oh, I've got the cheat codes. Well, you've got the cheat codes. You've got a lot of the equipment. Yeah. Legitimately. Like, you don't have to buy. Stools all around the house.

I mean, name your, name your stool. Colors, heights. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got you. But it is also. you're having a great life. Yeah. So it's not.

And again, I'm sure little people have the exact same amount of hardship and the last the exact same amount of misery and yeah, heartache and all that stuff, difficulty. And this is just your, it's just like that's what you get. And it's like, yeah. This is just my block. And it's hers. Yeah. Yeah.

And it's hers. And I bet it's one of these things where she's not going to be mad. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure she's gonna be nowhere near as mad as you felt guilty. Yes. And how did you- That'll be true.

Square it with your wife. Because that must have been... Well, because she knew... She knew having a child with me that this was a possibility. Yeah. And that's one of the things that helped me so much is how positive she was and how like, yeah, this is no big deal. because she was leaning on me. She's like, if I had a dwarf child

and I was with an average-sized person, I wouldn't know what to do, but you're here. Yeah. I know what to do. Yeah. So it's fine. You'll know what to do.

We can help. And that, I cannot tell you how much that helped me. That, how much that that kind of brought me out of, oh my God, I have an advantage with this parenting thing. Like, in terms of setting my daughter up and, and then,

she has a person to look at who looks like her who has been successful who figured it out in a world where there wasn't a lot before that for them to look at and and by the way that goes for almost any little person that goes into any business as there's not a lot of standards for them to look at

so yeah that helped out an insane amount I it will still creep in every now and then if she has a a dwarf related problem like as simple as potty training and pulling up her pants. So like she's got to get over that big dump truck in the back that we all have. Dwarfs have big asses.

Yeah. Oh yeah. And like I'm like looking at her get trying to get her pants up like, ah, fuck that's me. Like that's my booty. And so like but why we're here, why are they so big? Dwarf asses. Yeah.

You want the fun reason or the not fun reason? Let's do both. I mean, fun reason is because we're just thick with two C's. Great. Not fun reason is that we have a curved spine at the bottom. I love it. Don't tell me which is fun and which is that I decide which one is more fun. And you're not, my answer may shock you.

Yeah, a juicy ass being that the spine looks like the J and juicy. Like it just curves up. I'm gonna start yelling at Tallwin. They're like, damn, girl, you look like you got a curved spine. Oh, I thought you were gonna say, you look like you have a dwarf ass. No, I mean. It's weird, that's one of those things where they go, huh?

Like, they'll think it's an insult. Like, no, no, it's a compliment. And then you gotta bring a bunch of dwarfed. Exhibit A. Do you, okay, where does the, how's the compliments? With that in mind, like, does she, does your, wife have to assuage your guilt a lot or like sort of soothe your your uh my fault well that's kind of what partners do right for each other like she's she she what she she has her blocks right

the the the the if you run this podcast that we could talk about and i've got mine and yeah and what a good partner does is that you be there for your for your partner when they are going through those times and you help them either overcome or deal or gain perspective on. And she's definitely done that with me. I hope I've done that with her. And yeah, so yeah, we're both helping each other out. And do, I mean, any parent can relate to, if your kid's got a bad temper, you're like, and it's you, you know what's you.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, and again, not to belittle it. But like I didn't even give it a full look. That's the next tour name. Belittle it tour. Thanks, Neil. You're welcome.

Copyright Neil Brennan. The, yeah, I mean, it does. That's just what pay. It's funny because it is such a clear genetic thing. But like, she's got my dwarfism. She's got my wife's stubbornness. My wife apologizes to me all the time. That's funny.

Because she was stubborn as hell as a kid and she's like, oh, like, when we go through stuff with our daughter, she'll just like, my wife will roll her eyes and go, that's me. Yeah. That's me in there. Yeah. And so that happens when you have genetics is fascinating.

Yeah. It literally passes down. I can't explain this one. Why when I was on a Disney cruise with my wife and kid not working? I saw the look I saw the look you gave You think Snow White

Who? Never even seen it We There was some arts and crafts thing But it was being done in a room That had a stage on it And literally right when we walk in My daughter looks at the stage

Her eyes get wide Runs up to it And then starts dancing and singing She's four Yeah. Yeah. Why did she do that? And then it was funny because then she all like, like Daddy, come dance with me.

And then I went on stage and then I just pictured the people in the audience going, wait, is that Brad Williams? Like it's a show. But yeah, like she is attracted to the stage. She, we got her little karaoke machine. She loves hearing the sound of her own voice into a microphone. Like I didn't teach that. I didn't try to. It's just that's what she's drawn to.

Yeah. So yeah, your kids are going to be little. Even age, age four, broken. No, that's just your spine. Jesus, Brett. Jesus. Fucking bring it down. Yeah.

Boy, that's, that's, this is, this is as, this gave me everything I want it in terms of interesting. But it is such a clear. Will you ever, do you ever think you'll have a normal feeling about her dwarfism as your wife has about her temper? Or her stubbornness. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. I do. Because I feel like it's dupe.

The thing is it's dupe. It's your, you have a great brain. You have it like you have. I'm okay. Yeah. I'm fine. Yeah. I've lived a healthy life.

I've been successful. I've had friends. I've had normal social activities that I've been able to do. You know, I got into, I got into college. Like, so this is all laid out in front of her where she can do that as well. And the one thing, one thing I'll have is, uh, I will know when she is using dwarfism as an excuse. And when she isn't. Whereas.

In a way that you're, your dad didn't you think he did not like because give me an example because well for him it it could never be an excuse there they're there like dwarfism could never be an excuse he would not allow me to use it as an excuse for my mom it was the exact opposite it was the excuse for everything but like like to the point where you had to be like mom yeah chill it's fine i got to be on a map test that's not because of dwarfism by the way that's what you do when you kill and you're like yeah but i'm just too but and you're just but and you're just but and you're And I'm not going to lie, when I was a kid, I would definitely use it as an excuse sometimes. And now I'll know with her like, no, that's not an excuse. That dwarfism didn't stop you from X, Y, Z. Like, you could do that. So yeah, I'll be able to tell that where as an average size person wouldn't.

Yeah. What are the limitations? Meaning obviously like sports and stuff, but like, What, culturally. But even sports, you find a way. Like, yeah, I'm not going to be the quarterback, but I, I played hockey as a kid. I wrestled. Like, I, I, I ruined so many relationships that sons had with their dads.

Because when I beat someone in wrestling. It was never the same. Holy shit. At home for them. I never lived it down. Go sleep in the doghouse. Yeah. Like, like, yeah.

So, and I was. I was a good hockey player. So, like, I know that you just kind of, you find a way. There's, yeah, there's, like, I don't know what the limitations are because as soon as I say one, someone will prove me wrong. No, I, I, obviously, you couldn't play in the NHL. Sure. I'm assuming. Yeah.

What I'm saying, not you, but anyone. Yeah. Literally. Uh, what I'm wondering about, like, what are the real adult disadvantages? Clearly just renting cars. That's a disadvantage for me. I mean, you've got to sign. It's not even worth it for, yeah, I'm full sign.

Yeah, there's that. There's obviously finding clothes that look adult and that you can wear that make you look like an adult. That's sometimes difficult. With doctors, a lot of times there's stuff where it's like, A, doc, throw out your book. I'm a dwarf. It's different.

And like, there was one time. Are there, are there doctors that like, no more? Like, so you, and you guys probably gets around in the community of like this guys. Yeah, that we pass those names around like crazy. Yeah. So, like, I remember one time I got and I was having some back pain and I got a back x-ray. And then the guy called me and it was like, no, no, your spine. fine like it's

okay and then there was a pause and he goes there is he goes your spine and your body is severely disproportionate to your limbs

and the bones and your limbs and then I go how old are you this was two years ago and I go and I go over the phone I go because I went to a service that sent the x-ray to a doctor he's just looking at the x-ray and he's like what though yeah and I go did

they tell you I'm an a condor plastic dwarf and you just heard a guy go well fuck me yeah on the phone yeah so like sometimes there there there's that where you tell I'm like yeah I'm a yeah it's what it's different like when this is the first time I'm hearing about it yeah like when you have to tell this this never happened to us but I've heard numerous stories of pediatricians showing size charts like your child is unhealthy. And it's like dwarfism. And they know.

Yeah, and they know. The pediatrician knows their dwarf, but they're like, hey, what's going on? This guy's behind schedule. Yeah, exactly. And that has happened. It sounds insane. But it's not, no one's dying as a result, I'm assuming.

Uh, not of my type of dwarfism. There are types of dwarfism. there that have lower mortality rates okay but okay would not mine yeah okay but mine's okay that's that would be like i'd put that under like genetic sure pretty but i'm what i'm wondering is like in terms of disadvantages uh there's we have a slower metabolism so we have a we're more prone to weight gain oh interesting uh and that is so what's a healthy well how much do you weigh and how much how many calories a day are you supposed to all right i don't know what the calorie count is but i weigh like fluctuate between 120 and 130 right now.

That could probably go down. I could probably get that a little lower. But I'm okay. But like, yeah, there's. And then all the problems that come with obesity happen then if you become that. But we're a little more prone to it. And. So I'm just a little more aware.

Yeah. Okay. So you just have to eat a little better. You have to eat like a woman. Yeah. Yeah. And also like I. I never went to the gym.

I'm starting to go to the gym now. Like it's just, oh, that's interesting. Yeah, I, I, I,

I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, because it's easier on the joints. Okay, is that,

are your joints, like, always an issue. Joints are usually an issue, uh, back, neck, hips.

Uh, my left hip is starting to get, I'll probably need a new one, uh, over the next five years. Uh, so yeah, there are parts that are bad,

but like, to your point, it's not like, oh, no, my hip, and then the next day dead. Like that's not happening. Yeah, and again, I'm not not to belittle. But it is interesting in terms of what, I'm almost doing this so you hear it. I mean, again, it's hard not to feel so hard.

It's hard not to look at life as like how you're being screwed. Mm-hmm. Especially as comedians or maybe we're like this to begin with them. That's why we're kind of our job. Kind of our job is to look at the world in terms of how we're being screwed. But yeah, it is like that where it's, uh, I know that looking. And as I'm, as I'm aging, I look around at my friends and I'm seeing that they're going through stuff too. Some, a lot worse than me.

And by the way, do you guys after 55 start to get smaller? Oh, yeah. Oh, is that true? Like the way that... What a cruel trick. I've been a four before my whole life. How much more do you need from it? Yeah, yeah.

And do you... Yeah, because after 55, you get like a... I think it's an inch shorter every five years, I've heard. Oh, God. I'm sure I'm wrong about that, but there is... It might be 65. Yeah. But it is cruel that you guys get it too.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, everybody gets it. It's fine. Yeah, but I mean, there's definitely stuff we deal with. There's some sleep apnea stuff that I definitely have to deal with. C-Pap? You got the C-Pamp? Not yet, and that's my problem.

I got to get it. That's come up in the last, like, two years. So, yeah, there's stuff like that where if you don't address it. And because, like, the way our heads are, the airway is there's less room there. There's actually less room despite having a bigger head. Go figure. So my daughter has also had some respiratory issues that we're addressing. She's going to be okay.

It's very easily taken care of. But yeah, so I got to get on that. But it's like anything. Just stay on it. Like don't just see it and be like, well, that better fix itself. Like, no, you have to go and talk to someone, get a pill, get a surgery, get it looked at, do whatever therapies you got to do to help. So yeah, it's it's life, Neil.

I know. I will, I know. That's the, that's the bottom. It, it sucks for everybody at some point. Like, it's just a matter of how much. Yeah. You know, so, and if you're able to deal with it, and if you're able to address it. So I'm very thankful that I'm in a position where I can deal with these things and address them.

And as a comedian, we could take time off. We could just be like, oh, I'm just not going to tour. And I'm going to address this. I'm taking this summer off. I haven't had three months off since I was in high school. Yeah. So I'm, and I'm taking it off to be with my family and to finally do things and go to doctors and be like,

hey, I haven't seen you in eight years. But I'm 42 now and I should probably go every year now. Like, that's just a thing you got to start doing. Yeah. You got to actually take care of yourself. Yeah, it's what's great about being in your 40s. You have to spend all your vacation at the doctor. All right.

Well, we're all lucky. that I just a good reminder that we're all lucky yeah I mean you know who's been really great with that kind of perspective and I never thought it would come from him is uh Jimmy Carr yeah Jimmy car recently this podcast is Jimmy's idea it is yeah he was like you must you must do this really yeah Jimmy he's in my album he's my algorithm all the time and one one I just saw recently he's like look at he's like a hundred years ago people didn't have hot showers like for the for the most people have hot showers now yep like you're you got you got a good life endless i'm constantly he's getting he may be getting him from it yeah but like you wouldn't expect for me either but like

we are all lucky yes even if it seems like we're not we you still are yes and i look at like i i like i look at the uh like the parent teacher conferences that i go to now for my kid she's six years old and they and they give us printouts yeah of like all right here's your fine motor here's we got to work on here's where yeah here's your social here's where i'm like holy crap yeah like we know this stuff now we're getting better at this now we didn't have that when we were growing up and we were in school and and in terms of the medical stuff with dwarfism we're a lot better now than we were even when I was born. So, yeah, I'm feeling very lucky, very fortunate.

I got a great life. We talked about the blocks on this podcast, but at the same time, I don't want people to think that I go home and just like, why? Yeah. Like, that's not me. Yeah. I sometimes yell that out, but in the other way, if it's like, how did I get this fortunate?

Why me? There you go. Like, but thank God. Yeah. You know, thank Buddha, thank Jesus, thank whoever. but I got a good thing going here. You heard it. Brad Williams.

This was great, man. Thank you, buddy. Loved it. Thanks for having to do it. Yay.