Blood Will Tell - Listen Now: Foul Play

Episode Date: June 15, 2026

Ed is the grandson of footballing legend Gordon Banks. He was a national icon, the only goalkeeper ever to win the soccer World Cup for England. But Ed’s heard a rumour: that in 1970, while... defending the title, his granddad, his hero, was poisoned… by the CIA. All part of a Cold War plot to bolster a military dictatorship in Latin America, supposedly. Could this possibly be true? Banks did get ill in Mexico in 1970 with food poisoning. And England crashed out, marking the start of decades of hurt. Ed enlists the help of investigative journalist Gabriel Gatehouse. Together they embark on a journey into the bewildering world of Cold War espionage, a journey that threatens to unravel 60 years of sporting history; or possibly… to knock Ed’s granddad off his pedestal. Listen to FOUL PLAY on the Audible App or wherever you get your podcasts. Audible subscribers can binge all episodes of FOUL PLAY early and ad-free right now. Join Audible in the Audible App or by subscribing on Apple Podcasts.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, I'm Gabriel Gatehouse and I'm Ed Jervis. And we're about to play you, a clip from Foul Play. A new podcast series in which we investigate whether the CIA poisoned my granddad. And possibly laid a curse on English football. It's an unbelievable tale of sport, spies and family secrets. And here's a taster. We'll hear the name of your grandfather, please. My name's Ed, and I feel like I'm having a sort of out-of-body experience right now.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Thanks Gordon. Yes. Let me check. I'm an ordinary dad of two small kids from Stoke-on-Trent in the English Midlands. I don't travel much. They have a little secret repository. Nobody knows. We miss this.
Starting point is 00:01:05 So it feels pretty surreal right. pretty surreal right now to be in Mexico, in old prison, digging through the archives of the Mexican secret police. Maybe we can find something? You're putting Gordon Banks' name into a secret database. I'm here with Gabriel Gatehouse, an investigative journalist, and we're looking for evidence that more than 50 years ago, in the summer of 1970, spies were surveilling my granddad. Yes, they have a... photos of your grandfather. What?
Starting point is 00:01:38 I know. Yeah. Can we see? Yeah. My granddad wasn't a secret agent. He had no links to Mexico. His name has got no business being in this archive. My granddad was a football player.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Maybe you call it soccer. He was quite famous, actually. Gordon Banks, the world's number one goalkeeper. Gordon Banks, my granddad, was the man in goal in 1966, the one and only time England have ever won the World Cup. Well done Gordon Banks, the hero of it. Some argue my granddad was the greatest goalkeeper to have ever played the game. So what the hell is his photo doing in the archives of the Mexican secret police?
Starting point is 00:02:43 They have more information. Oh my God. I know. Yeah. So that other voice you hear is me. And yes, I am a voice you hear. serious journalist. At least, I think I am. I've covered wars and revolutions, stories about Russian spies. For two days in 2011, a contact of mine had the body of the Libyan dictator,
Starting point is 00:03:14 Colonel Gaddafi, hidden in his fridge. I've reported some crazy stories in my time. But this one, I've been dragged into against my better judgment, because at first sight, it seems absurd, It couldn't have happened. Unless, it did. In which case, it might just be the craziest story I've ever heard. It all started three years ago, when a stranger comes up to me. You're Gabriel Gatehouse, aren't you? He says, I loved your podcast.
Starting point is 00:03:48 This happens to me from time to time, ever since I did a series about conspiracy theories in America. Thanks, I say, who are you? It's me, Ed. I tell Gabriel I've got a story for him about football. Let me stop you right there. I say, I'm not into football. I don't know anything about it.
Starting point is 00:04:07 But Ed won't let it go. Have you heard of Gordon Banks? He asks. Gordon Banks. Another trophy for his sideboard. John Mahoney, the substitute. A goalkeeper, right? National hero from a bygone age.
Starting point is 00:04:22 When the England men's football team still won things. Yeah. Even I've heard of Gordon Banks. So Ed starts telling me this story about his famous granddad and the World Cup, but not 1966, the one we won, no the next one. In Mexico, in 1970. England were the defending champions, Ed says, one of the favourites to win, but granddad fell ill.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Food poisoning, apparently. Gordon Banks was too sick to play. He recovered a few. few days later, but England crashed out and English football was never the same again. We didn't even qualify for another World Cup for another 12 years, and even then it seemed like a curse had been laid on the national team. We're talking about the men's team here. The women are doing just fine. Anyway, Ed says his granddad always suspected his illness was no accident. I was nobbled, he'd say. He thought someone had got to him all those years ago, though who or how
Starting point is 00:05:30 or to his dying day, he never knew. Ed never really took it seriously. We would just sort of laugh it off and kind of, oh yeah, all right, granddad, want too many tacos for some dodgy street vendor or whatever it was. But after Gordon Banks' death, Ed says, someone tells him, your granddad was poisoned to sabotage England.
Starting point is 00:05:53 And the plot was masterminded by the CIA. The CIA? I may not know much about football, but I do know about conspiracy theories, and this looks like a classic. I mean, why would the CIA want to poison an English footballer? Something about the Cold War and supporting a military dictatorship in Brazil, Ed said. It sounded kind of ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:06:23 I told him I'd look into it, thinking, I'll debunk this straight away. Well, three years later, here I am. And the deeper I dig, the stranger it gets. Follow foul play on the Audible app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes of FoulPlay early and ad-free right now by joining Audible in the Audible app or on Apple Podcasts.

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