Blood Will Tell - Readiness Is All | 5

Episode Date: April 2, 2026

In prison, Trung discovers a powerful outlet in performing Shakespeare. But is his processing of his guilt just an act? See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Audible subscribers can listen ad-free. Join Audible today by downloading the Audible app. It's a chilly fall evening in San Jose as trunk loads two 50-pound boxes into the trunk of his car. Name, address, and everything, where it's going to go and where it's going to come back. Literally every side of the box. They're full of gifts. Dove soap, chocolates in bulk, flea market jewelry, everything Duk is bringing to his family in Vietnam. He's leaving for a 28-day trip, and Trung is seeing him off.

In the car, they chat about his dad's plans. The relatives and friends he'll see, the places he'll visit. But underneath all of this is a heavy feeling. Because when Duk returns, Trung won't be there to pick him up. Just a few days earlier, Trung had finally come clean to his father. It came in a quiet moment when they were out having lunch. Duk told Trung he'd noticed a change in him. I always see in your eyes just so much sadness.

He said something that's changed. He didn't see that film of sadness anymore. As he looked at his dad, Trung wasn't sure what to say next. He took a breath and then. I finally told the truth. I told him that I was the person who did it and that my brother is in there for something that I did. This is something that I need to do.

It should have happened in the beginning. And now I will be turning myself in. Trung waited for his fears about this moment to come true, for his dad to erupt in fury or express his deep shame. But Duk was calm. He tells me he saw a level of maturity that he hasn't seen before. Duk then made his own startling confession. He suspected Trung was guilty all along,

but he felt it wasn't his place to interpret. interfere, not with the law and not with the brother's relationship, that this was Trung's hardship to bear and to figure out for himself. On the ride to the airport, they don't talk much more about it. They've never been comfortable sharing their feelings with each other. But that changes when they reach the security check. My dad looked really sad, and I just told him, you don't need to be sad. When you come back, you won't see me anymore. You will see my brother. Like, he's going to come. come home. And really, like, everything is going to be okay. Like, I felt strong to be able to tell my dad

that. Trung hugs his dad tightly and watches him disappear in the security line. Any sadness Trunk feels about saying goodbye to his father is quickly taken over by another feeling. Like, I feel so free. Like, everything that I've been feeling, all the challenges, all the heaviness in my chest, it's all gone. It's all gone. And I'm ready. Trung has come clean to his dad, his therapist, and his lawyer. Now a court date has been set to formally reverse the charge against On. Trung feels the freedom that comes with finally telling the truth. But there's one person he hasn't been totally honest with yet.

Himself. From Wendry and Campside Media, I'm Jen Miller, and this is Blood Will Tell. This is episode 5. readiness is all. Whoever designed the Santa Clara County Hall of Justice was not subtle. The main entrance is framed by a sleek facade made up of 20 pristine mirrored panels.

As Trung approaches the door, he sees his reflection, confident in his black suit and tie, looking like a man who is secure in the decision he's made. Today is the day that I'll be turning myself in. Trung has rehearsed this day over and over. In his mind, it's the climax of the play he's been performing,

the consummate act of his bravery. Finally, he'll be setting everything right. Trung greets his attorney Barney, and they walk into the courtroom. He sees his mom and a handful of friends already seated. The deputy DA is there, sitting at one end of a long table. Barney and Anz attorney Clinton take their seats at the table and Trung slides into the gallery behind them. He watches as his brother is led into the room,

dressed in his jail issued clothes, red tunic and khaki pants, his hands shackled to his sides. I see my brother. I'm thinking about all the calls that he begged me to save him because during that time it was so painful for him to be there to lose his girlfriend. to lose his life, I'm about to do something that can release him from all that pain.

The brothers stay seated as their lawyers stand and walk into the judge's chambers. Barney and Clinton have spent months negotiating a deal with the deputy DA. Clinton to get on released and Barney to get the murder charge downgraded from first degree to voluntary manslaughter. Clinton has a choice phrase for it. That was a sweetheart deal. If we hadn't have presented everything we had, he would be facing 25 to life.

Now they just need the judge to give a ruling and make the deal official. Here are the basics of what the lawyers shared with me. 1. Trong had initially attempted to de-escalate the fight and then jumped in when he thought his brother was in danger. 2. The problematic ways the lineup was conducted. And three, the wrong brother had sat in jail for 21 months. When they return to the courtroom, the judge asks Trong to rise and state his plea. I looked at my friends. I looked at my family. I nodded.

My girlfriend at the time, I think he was crying. He stands up and tells the judge, guilty. And then the judge rules. Trong will be charged with voluntary manslaughter. And On will be released almost immediately with an accessory charge. It was like a very, very bitter, sweet moment. You know, like, oh, shoot, like, I'm actually going to go home. What happens next is a blur to both of the twins.

On is escorted out of the courtroom and into a holding area. Then Trung is brought in. They placed me and on in a cell to killer. It was just for a brief moment. They're both cuffed, so it's impossible to give a proper hug. Instead, they do their best to touch hands. pressing their bodies as close together as the restraints will allow. With such a sense of relief, I haven't felt for almost two years.

The twins barely have time to speak before the bailiffs come to take them out, trung to his incarceration and On to his freedom. On returns to his cell to collect his things and say his goodbyes. You know, talking to Kevin and I'm just, you know, like, hey, bro, I'm going home. Man, I just felt like I lost my freedom again. It was his turn to be like my big brother because he told me not to cry, don't give up. He's like, hey, I got you something,

but don't open it until I leave. After On is out of view, Kevin's door clicks shut. Kevin looks down at what On just handed him. It's a card, and inside it read. Don't forget, you're still like a pretty lotus in a muddy pond. No man ever wrote that to me, Man, I broke down crime, man. It doesn't take long until Trung arrives.

Hey, Anz Brothers here. All the guys in there call it the switch like the movie, I think it was Lindsay Loham or something. They switch as twins. The parent trap. Everyone was like, whoa, everyone was shocked. Like, they switched their twins. It was just crazy.

I was under the impression that since they're doing a switch, then they're going to bring Trunk right back into my room. But they didn't. They sent them to the next house. When Trung enters the county jail, the confidence he felt walking into the courthouse vanishes. It feels like all eyes are on him. It was as if everybody already knew me.

Including his new cellmate. The door pops open, and I was like, oh, you're your aunt's brother. Tien has been in jail for two years awaiting trial when Trung shows up. He immediately sees how nervous Trung is. His head was constantly on the swivel. He was looking around a lot, and I knew it was something that I experienced when I first came was a lot of anxiety. Jail can be dangerous for anyone, but Trong must also contend with the green light. I was working out a lot.

I was just preparing just in case something would happen. I did have in that back of my mind that if something were to go off, I'm going to have to defend myself. The threat of the green light feels like a constant hum whenever he's away from his cell. But soon, another source of anxiety, an unexpected one, begins to take shape, his brother. I mean, I think me coming in and finally turning myself in, I had imagined that things will be okay, that our relationship will be stronger, much stronger than ever. But that hasn't happened. Coming clean has not restored their relationship, as Trung believed.

It seems to have made it worse. Every time he comes back from a phone call with Anne, Trung stews in his cell. Tian doesn't really understand. I would ask him, hey, what is it about your brother? That when you talk about him, you're so upset. So he shared that the whole altercation happened between his brother and somebody else because his brother was so drunk. As the weeks tick by, their phone calls grow contentious. Until one day, it's just too much for Trunk to take.

While holding the receiver up to his ear, Ann complains about the different ways it's been hard to acclimate to life outside. As the call goes on, Trung gets increasingly heated. I was really frustrated. Such a huge thing just happened. Like, I did what you wanted. Aren't you grateful I finally did it?

Instead of still giving me shit. For months, Trung has geared up to play the part of the great, brother who finally did the right thing. He set the stage to have the charges switched, a happy ending to this tragic tale of mistaken identities. But he didn't consider how he'd feel waking up every day in a cell without a motivating purpose

and with a lot of unresolved feelings toward his brother. And he definitely didn't think about how difficult it would be for on to recover from those two lost years. In my head, I was like, dude, like you just can't. home. You have your freedom. Why are we arguing about this? They continue sniping at each other until the call cuts out. Trung's 15 minutes of phone time is up. He stomps back to his cell. Tien watches him come in, can practically see the rage steaming off of him.

He got really upset and he started yelling, started throwing things around. Trung is all emotion. He's ping ponging from the bed to the wall. And that's when he loses it. I punch the wall that's so thick because it's like a break of rock and I broke my hand. He spends that night staring at the ceiling of the hospital room while his hand throbs

weighed down inside a cast. His cast is considered a weapon, so... I could no longer stay at that cell block. He's moved into a secluded infirmary unit. It's dark, barely any windows, no yard time, and no interactions from others besides infirmary staff. He'll be stuck in here until the cast comes off.

Having to stay by myself, there was nobody there for that whole month. It was just me and my emotions and my thoughts. It was what I was fearful of, just being alone, being forgotten. Fears that pushed him toward countless bad decisions. And so many of Trung's attempts to prove himself, to be recognized, involved on. Not because of anything on intentionally did to him, but because of their proximity, their innate competitiveness, the pressures they felt from their dad, the list goes on. But instead of taking full responsibility for his actions, Trong has found comfort in blaming his brother.

If you have a really close sibling, you know, what I'm talking about. If he hadn't made me so mad, I wouldn't have punched the wall. If he hadn't been so drunk, I wouldn't have run into the fight with a knife. If Trung is going to repair his relationship with Onn, let alone move forward with his life. He'll have to realize that he only has himself to blame. He never considered how On would actually feel after his release. He punched the wall.

And regardless of how drunk has been, he never considered how on. brother was, he stabbed a man. And right now, only he can pull himself out of this emotional hole. Back in San Jose, On wakes up at 6 a.m. with a hangover. When I'm going to visit Trung, it's up to me to get up early. Make sure to have the right clothing. He opens up his closet and flips through his options. He can't really afford new clothes, so it's mostly things he wore before he was arrested. Plus, everything that belonged to Trung. Trung's clothes are now On's clothes. Trung's car is now on's car. Even Trung's old job at Olive Garden is now On's new job at Olive Garden. I mean, the interview was funny because the manager who was just laughing the whole time,

there's just shocked that we just look alike. So just hire me in a spot. So for sure, that helped me. Since today is visitation day, his clothing options are strict. No, or anything else that's blue, so no one can mistake him as wearing an inmate uniform. Once dressed, On gets into his car, well, actually, Trung's car, and heads over to his parents' house. He's been helping them with a lot of things lately, shuttling them to doctor's appointments and helping them pay the bills,

and on visit days, driving them to the prison. These family car rides to visit Trung are often tense. Like today, On is trying to manage his headache. as Duck yells at him to slow down. Then there's the annoying routine they have to follow once they arrive. You have to do paperwork, you have to show your ID. Then they wait, sometimes for hours, until finally they're escorted into a cafeteria

where they have the chance to stock up on food for trunk. Just a lot of vending machines all over around. My mom go this way, I go this way, my dad go this way, get all the food that we can because we knew Trunk didn't have those type of food, you know, hot cheeseburgers or Asian food. Then we just sit there and wait until he comes out. They lay everything out on the table

and wait for the guards to bring the men in. When I see Tron comes out and people are like, huh? There's two of them. This is A's favorite part. And that's when I realized like, oh yeah, this building he used to get when I was younger. Yeah, I missed that. That boyhood feeling of never doubting that your brother is beside you, with you.

It's so comforting. There is still so much unspoken between them. Years of frustrations, questions about who bears the blame for the party, and then for everything that followed. But On doesn't want to think about any of that. I think my personality, I'm very phlegmatic. Like, I'm very chill. I don't hold grudges.

At least, this is a little bit of my personality. What is what On tells himself. He doesn't want to be angry with Trung. He just wants to move on. But it's not easy. Along with Olive Garden, he tries a handful of other jobs. Renting out cars on Turrell, try and do some Amazon, drop shipping. Nothing really pans out.

Then the relationship with his girlfriend finally falls apart for good. And on top of it all, there's still the green light, like at the gym. And when I walk in sometime, I'm looking to the left where the weights are at, and then I happen to see one of those guys. Tim's guys. I make eye contact with them. They noticed me. I think they're waiting for a move to.

Walk to the locker room, and I just go sit there for a little bit. I think, well, okay, you know what? I'm going to just go. Walk back out and just head back to the door and just head out. Just knowing back on my mind, like, okay, one of these guys attacked my brother, and could be any of them, I don't know who, but I ride just avoid. avoid it. On's not sure how much danger he's in. He's been off the streets for nearly two years. He's not active in the lifestyle anymore. And he didn't do the thing that would have really screwed

him with all these guys. He didn't snitch. But the paranoia is driving him crazy. On needs a distraction. He needs a purpose. So he starts networking, looking up his old friends from school, like Charles. He messaged me on Facebook. It's like, all right, this is. Let's go hang out. Let's go drink. Let's catch up. Charles tells On that he has a buddy interested in starting up an underground club. His friend will put up the money for the club if On and Charles take care of operations. On is excited. The club is exactly what he's been looking for. It's entrepreneurial. It's something he can really throw himself into. And it has nothing to do with his brother.

There's only one problem. It was not legit, of course, it's like underground. Meaning no permits or inspections to speak of. They find a warehouse for rent in an industrial part of town. The space is where people could go once the legal bars close. The crowd started coming in after downtown. On was envisioning something with a touch of class. I was trying to go with the name Lotus.

But he's outvoted. And my other homie wanted to call Players Club. which, given the vibe, is probably the more accurate name. On a typical night, Anand Charles passed through a curtain and head down a hall with VIP rooms on the left and right. On the back wall, there's a large mural of a lotus with the outline of three naked women. Doing drugs, smoking weed everywhere.

Lights are off. You have music jumping, LED strip lights all around. We'd want to do like a San Jose thing, so we did the teal color. a nod to the sharks, the local hockey team. Yeah, like a disco, strobe type of light, DJ, open dance floor, but we have strippers as well. I was running in underground strip club. That's exactly what it was.

Ahn knows the club could get him into trouble with authorities and even land him back in jail. But he reasons he's not selling drugs or burglarizing houses or soldiering for a criminal organization, he's running a small business with friends. Also, the money's good, so it's a risk he's willing to take. When we started making a name for ourselves,

hip-hop Bay Area artists would come in. Then we had a four-ninner player there before, too, but I'm not going to drop his name. But it's about more than the money. He feels successful. People are looking up to him. You feel all butter up, feeling good, All these people saying, oh, yeah, he's one of the owners and that.

Of course, there's another problem with the club, the patrons, not the famous athletes or the Bay Area musicians, but the crews and organized crime groups. The people that Onn is literally trying to avoid. I was like, hey, this guy's going to be coming around. I'm letting you know a heads up. On at the time was kind of like pissed at me, his face getting red, getting angry. You're like, oh, are you hanging out?

guy, that's the other gang, but then I had to check him too. You got to deal with it, you know? We're in business together. We're making money. Some of these guys are cool with our other friends, so it is what it is. Charles is basically telling on, you know what kind of business we're in, and you know who are serving. If you have a problem with them, deal with it. He said like, hey, these guys, they got a table.

You want to squash it or what? Meaning, do you want to squash the green light? I thought it was a stupid beef from the beginning. Just because we're twins and they're attacking us. I just wanted it to be over. But On had never considered this an option. Could it really be as simple as telling the enemies he wants the beef to be over?

What if he approaches their table and they attack him? Shoot him on the spot. Then Charles reminds him that this threat is always, already following him, whether or not he decides to approach these guys. You know, say if you walk in a restaurant, you're walking in a gym, you see these guys, and then you've got to leave, you know. And it's not just about On. When Trung finally gets out of prison, does Onn want his brother returning to a life of vigilance

and paranoia? He's making it easier for when Trunk gets out to where he doesn't have to look over his shoulder and all that. And this is On's club, his turf, with his own people there to back him up. On takes it all into consideration and quickly makes his decision. Yeah, man, let's do it. They pull up maybe six, seven people.

On enters through a back door to scope it out and recognizes a few of the enemies, one who definitely has an issue with him. He looked at me and this other guy who's like famous in their side start walking in and they just mugged the crab out of me and they went to the room. Charles clocks all this, and he's getting nervous.

So we're in the VIP room, and I'm telling my boy, hey, just be on toes. That's, you know, just case something happens, I had a gun on me. And then my other friend, we're just sitting there being alert, just watching. If there's any good time for onto approach, it's now. He takes a deep breath. I was like, all right, all right. And then I went up to them. I was like, hey, is everything all good?

Yeah, I was like, hey, you still want it? On's adrenaline is pumping, but through it, he feels a wave of disbelief. This guy at the table seems to think On wanted to be in this fight. He looks right in the man's face, and then the man next to him and realizes... They're just like us. They're just a little bit older. They're Vietnamese. This is so dumb.

They're in my club. My friends are cool with them. I'm no longer with the association of who I was with. My brother's locked up. I have too much to lose. For just a moment, everything hangs in the balance. And then? I was like, nah.

I'm like, no, I don't want it anymore. Just you win. Like, I lose. You win. On the fighter puts his fists down. The other guys accept his concession. The green light is done. There's no more hit hanging over his head or his brothers. They're free from the danger that has followed them for five years.

But they are not out of the woods because Aung still hasn't faced the person who's posed the greatest danger to him, his own brother. Before Trong can be transferred from county jail to state prison, he has to be formally sentenced for his crime. The sentencing date was very emotional. Because he has to face the friends and family of the man he killed. You may be wondering about this man and why I haven't talked about him more. I made multiple attempts to reach his family and his friends,

but they didn't want to talk to me. But they do speak on his behalf at the sentencing. They showed me the whole presentation with videos, pictures of my victim. And then the family reads their prepared testimonies. Just sitting there listening to the impact, the traumas that I've caused, hearing from the parents, the cousin, the girlfriend, it all just hit me. My actions took away so much. It took away his future.

It took away everything that he could be. and I've changed the lives of his families and friends forever. Even in a whole crowd of people, I allow myself to cry. I allow myself to show like my true emotions. Trung starts to wonder, how did he become the kind of person capable of committing such a crime? And is it now possible to become a different kind of person? What if it's not? And then the judge announces his sentence.

Seven years in state prison. Trung is transported to California State Prison Solano. And soon after he arrives, he decides to get to work. I don't want to come out of prison being the same. You know, rebuilding my life as if nothing has happened. Through the prison grapevine, Trung learns about Proposition 57, a new ballot initiative that encourages prisons

and incarcerated people to focus on rehabilitation. I felt a sense of agency that if I put in the hard work, like, it's going to pay off, and I can rebuild a life for myself, that this whole prison experience here is really about rehabilitation. The proposition also creates new pathways toward early release. This includes college education, therapeutic programs, even things that go into an AA group consistently. People like myself who has, like, violent convictions, can also earn milestones. if we put in the work. Milestones, meaning rehabilitative programs and certificates that can shorten your sentence.

And some of the rehabilitation options are surprising. Trung hears about a performance of Shakespeare's King Lear, made up almost entirely of other incarcerated men. I was like, oh shit, they have this in prison. He enters the gym to find the chairs already filling up. There's not much of a set, But the actors conjure riveting scenes with just a few simple tunics and cardboard swords.

The show is part of Shakespeare for Social Justice, another program offering sentence credits. As the performance continues, he starts to visualize himself up there, all eyes on him, like he could be the one in the spotlight, the one who makes the audience hold its breath. He signs up.

The program is designed as drama therapy, using Shakespearean stories and themes to tap into repressed emotions. At rehearsals, men do uncomfortable things, like stare into the eyes of their scene partners and physically embody feelings of fear and love. It's risky to act this way in prison, but for Trong, that's part of the appeal. Of course, growth and change require bravery.

His first production is much ado about nothing. He's cast as Claudio, misguided lover boy. But hear these ill news with the ears of applauding of him. This sir and so, the prince was for himself. The character, somebody portrayed his fiance as cheating on him, and he was really heartbroken. Friendship is constant in all other things.

Save him to office. The others and blood. Trung is able to throw the heartache of his recent breakup into the role. He's also able to shine. He performs a breakdancing solo and hams up a couple of key moments for laughs. At the end of the play, his character is largely redeemed for his mistakes.

You know, being this person who was like, I guess the good guy was how I wanted others to portray me. Trung's days are busy. He's rehearsing, teaching GED students, studying for his associates degree, and meditating. He feels productive. Like maybe he really is the good guy.

Then Trung's cellmate Tian is accepted into a totally different kind of program. The title is a mouthful. The Occupational Mentor Certification Program. Everybody calls it OMCP. And it trains you to become a substance abuse counselor, certified by the state. The program is selective and rigorous. And as Trung watches Tian move through his assignments, he realizes that it offers the opportunity

for an even deeper level of personal growth. Every time I came back with an assignment, I was like, hey, is it okay if I read this to you? Writing my commitment offense, writing about my childhood abuse, writing about my trauma, I was able to sit in the cell with Trung, talk about it. I was able to sit there, cry,

and have somebody who would encourage me, support me, even though he was not going through the program. Trung applies to OMCP. I felt the need to understand the cause and effect that eventually led to committing the crime and my incarceration because I was still feeling very guilty and ashamed of what I did. When he's accepted, he sees right away that it's nothing like the other programs. They're focusing on discovering themselves, and I crave the knowledge that they had. Trung throws himself into the work.

He feels like he's making real progress. Then comes a unit called denial management. Trong and his cohort sit in a circle to talk about the masks they wear. The men they are inside versus the men they want everyone to see. The facilitator lays out the ground rules. It's going to hurt. I'm going to be sharing what I need to share. And then others in the group are allowed to provide

feedback as honestly as possible, and I'm just going to listen. And I can't say anything back. I just going to listen. He begins to share what led him into the lifestyle, the pain he's caused, and how finally, finally, after so much trauma, he stood up and took responsibility. And now, here he is in prison, accepting the consequences, dedicating all of his time to learning how to be his true self. If this is a test, he feels like he's acing it. Trung finishes talking and then waits.

After a few moments of silence, another participant in the circle begins to speak. I appreciate you sharing. But the way that you talk about your story and how I see you, it seems very performative. Trunk's face grows hot. Counter-arguments are piling up. But he's not allowed to speak.

It's the rules of the exercise. The feedback continues. Even though you were talking about this pain and all that, it was just if you were putting a show on. And he made this connection about being in Shakespeare, are you acting? And so, like, where are you being genuine? All Trunk can do is sit there and listen,

as man after man tells him they don't believe him. After all the feedback, they continue on with the group and I was just not there anymore. I just checked out. I wanted to disappear. And as everyone was leaving, I just couldn't hold my emotions anymore. The tears came out and it just, it wouldn't stop. That pain the facilitator promised, it's here.

I'm trying to sell this whole story that I'm a good person and they saw it right through it. In some way or another, he's always been playing a role. It describes my whole life experience, really from childhood up to when I grew up. That Boy Scout, who his parents could be proud of. I wanted to be that person that was like this smart, dedicated student. So let me sell you this, but don't look at that. The guy who gets the job done for Bobby. You know, wanting to be seen, wanted to not be invisible.

I'll be whatever you want me to be, as long as, you know, I am seen. But it's all fake. because it was all an act. A series of costumes and roles. If I take out this mask, then you know, you would see my true self. A coward, dumb, immature, really this bad friend, bad son, bad boyfriend, someone that just doesn't care about others. I had put in years of work to hide that from people.

And what's left after he's done hiding? there's just the truth of what Trung did. When I finally acted and I stabbed them, it's very strange to say actually. But there was a moment of relief. And I think that relief was, you proved yourself that you're not this coward. Why did I have to do that?

Just to be able to prove that as a selfish act, all the consequences, everything, Everyone that was hurt, the ripple effect of all that pain was all traded for that. My buddy of mine came over, puts his hand on my shoulders, and comforted me. This is the work, he tells Trong. Two other guys come over. They're going to arms over me and just telling me that it's going to be okay. It took some time for me to really receive that message.

That you cannot hide from yourself. That looking at yourself is going to hurt. A lot. And it keeps on hurting. Maybe forever. But you have to look. That's the point. Many months later, Trong and Tian emerge from the crucible of OMCP

and become registered substance abuse counselors. And then, in August 2019, nearly four years into his seven-year sentence, a letter arrives in the mail. There are no more milestones left for Trung to earn. His release date has been set. March 8th, 2020. As he reads this news, he's overwhelmed with joy,

followed by emotions he didn't anticipate. I do not feel that I was punished enough, that I serve enough time that would even be considered justice for what I did, the magnitude of my actions. Is Trung really ready to go home? I don't deserve this. I don't deserve to be released. this early.

I don't deserve to enjoy all of this. Because now that Trung has finally faced himself, there's still someone else he must face. He will never be able to do right by his victim or by his friend be. But there's someone else he hurt, someone he took years away from, someone with whom he still needs to make things right, his brother.

Like I woke up to a nightmare. So you got to understand that I do feel guilty. I do. But I didn't make a decision to staff that person. That's on the next and final episode of Blood Will Tell. Audible subscribers can listen to over 200 podcasts, ad-free, including hit shows like Dr. Death, business wars, and over-my-dead body.

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