Bonanas for Bonanza - Bonanas For Bonanza Episode #48: “The Courtship”

Episode Date: December 18, 2024

Subscribe to The Andy Daly Podcast Project at Patreon.com/AndyDaly Dalton and Mutt are joined by a very special guest, former “Paramount pup” Francine Pants. Together they discuss Bonanza Sea...son 2, episode 16 - “The Courtship”. Yet another marriage proposal goes awry for a Cartwright and Francine dishes all the behind the scenes dirt!Featuring Matt Gourley and Erinn HayesMerch: redbubble.com/people/ADPodProject/shopMail: PO Box 9407 Glendale, CA 91226Email: bonanaspod@gmail.comAndy’s website: andydaly.comRecord date: 9/22/2023 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:02:52 Hi there, guy. God, god, god. How damn. Out of the gate. Beautiful. You've had a good, hey, let's open our Schlitzes. Today we're having a warm Schlitz. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:02 You know what? A warm Schlitz is still better than a cold anything else. I'll tell you what, that's true. This is Bananas for Bananza. Today we're talking about season two, episode 16 of Bananza, as we do every week. We don't always talk about that episode. Matter of fact, we never have before and never will again, but every week we do talk about an episode of Bananza and we'll often have a guest, and man we've got one today, I'll tell you what.
Starting point is 00:03:27 This is a fascinating lady and she's got a fascinating story to tell you. Please say hello to Francine Pants, is that right? Yes, my name is Francine Pants. Now of course that is not my real last name. Oh I see, well that's what you told me to tell you, didn't you tell me how I say introduce you? No, that is my name.
Starting point is 00:03:48 But what I'm saying is I don't know my true last name. Whoa! Yes, I was born somewhere. And at some point when I was a child, I went on to the Paramount Lot as an extra with my parents or guardians. And well, it was a picture about the depression and they just left me there.
Starting point is 00:04:11 And I became one of, of course, the Paramount Pubs. Oh, I've heard of you, Kim. The Paramount Pubs. I haven't heard of Paramount Pubs. We were abandoned child actors who were left on the studio lot. So I grew up on the studio. Of course, you've heard of the woe begotten of Warners.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Oh. And of course, the Columbia Cubbies, but I was a Paramount Puff. I had, you know what? This is the first time hearing about this abandoned children on the studio. But of course, it makes a world of sense. There's so many children in there working as extras and whatnot. And what are you going to do? Bring them home after a day of work? No. Also, have you met child actors? They're terrible. And were you that bad? I probably was. But you don't know. No, I wasn't aware of it at the time. And then of course,
Starting point is 00:05:00 once you're an orphan, you've got to really fend for yourself. The problem is precociousness, isn't it? Isn't that the problem with child actors for yourself. The problem is precociousness, isn't it? Isn't that the problem with child actors? They're just a damn precocious. But we had each other, we banded together. I used to sleep in the corner of studio two where they filmed Petticoat Junction. No shit.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Wow. Now did you grow up to be an adult actor? No, what I did was I just kind of tittered around the studios and I would be an assistant here, or a costumer there, or I just, you know, I've had all my meals on the craft service table. Yeah. I mean, I think about it, it's not a bad way to live because a lot of them sets, like Petticoat Junction, a lot of them would have had a bed. There's a bedroom set, you go sleep in the bed, and absolutely there's three meals a day and then some dessert.
Starting point is 00:05:45 All the fetticoats you can wear. If you can pick a lock, you can sleep in any actor's dressing room. Now do most of the Paramount pups stay on there or do they go off set at some point? Well, a lot of them went off set. We did used to get together every year for holidays and make our big table look like a craft service,
Starting point is 00:06:02 just small bowls of pretzels and whatnot to make us feel at home. Die young I suppose. Yes, they died young and then I am old as well the mold on your shoes. Oh, 84 years huh? These are vintage boots. Well, you made it. You made it out I guess. Yes, I did of course. You don't live on Paramount lot anymore.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Well, no, I moved over to Warner Brothers. No kidding. Yes, it's the security on Paramount got rather tight, so I find Warner's to be the loosest of the gooses. Yeah, there's so many different entrances and whatnot, right? That's it. Are you living on a sound stage or more like the Western streets or the New York streets or what? Yes, now they have like, you know, where they film things like when the housewives were
Starting point is 00:06:47 so desperate or whatever. Oh, those suburban streets. Those suburban streets. Oh, those are good. And some of them are, they're abandoned now. Yeah, so you walk into the house and it's not like a proper house, right, when you walk in. Don't they do it like you got a house that looks just like a house from the outside,
Starting point is 00:07:06 but when you go in, it's just a bunch of wood. It's just a folding chair, some old cans of soda, cigarette butts, but sometimes there's, but then if you can get your way into, because I used to know the costume people, so I have procured myself some long coats and a lot of hats. I noticed your period dress here today. That's interesting. Yes, of course. This corset took me two hours because my fingers just don't work like they used to.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Oh well, yeah. I'm sorry to hear that, but you look fantastic. Probably have to set up a pulley system just to tighten it in back, right? Well, sure. I've got something attached to the wall and I just kind of wiggle around like a little bear. Oh my gosh, being industrious. I like that. And eventually, they latch on. Oh, sure, sure. Well, that's just how bears do it too, you know?
Starting point is 00:07:54 Well, now, you were on the Paramount lot. That's where they made Bonanza. Yes, I know. I did almost every job on Bonanza. You're kidding me. Yes, I mean, we are on episode season two, but I directed some of the ones in the fourth. But that's not an accomplishment.
Starting point is 00:08:08 I mean, the horses directed those later ones. Wow. I didn't know that. That's amazing. So you, over time, you're a child just living on the lot and you just sort of thrust yourself into the world of Bonanza and make yourself useful. Were you ever in the show? Were you ever on camera?
Starting point is 00:08:25 Well, I was an extra on a certain amount of scenes, and sometimes they would need a dead body in the background, and I'd lay there. I was really good at just lying there. Oh, that's the best. You know, and then I was an assistant on this. There's a couple of jobs I did on this episode, but I don't want to give them away just yet.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Oh, boy, I can't wait to find out. But you, let me ask you, when you're, I wonder this all the time, when you're playing a dead body, do you have to try not to breathe? That's one of the things I would think. Is that a skill that you have? It's a skill. Really?
Starting point is 00:08:58 But I was one of the early adopters of Pilates. Oh my God. I knew Mr. Pilates. You did? Yes, intimately. Oh dear. You mean you were having all kinds of sex? All kinds of sex with Mr. Joseph Pilates.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Joseph Pilates. And now that you'd sideways breathe. So with that it doesn't go so much up and down as you're more sideways breathing. You do sideways? Yeah. And then we would do calisthenics. I see. Was he a foreign man, Joseph Pilates? He did sound funny. Oh he did.
Starting point is 00:09:30 But he sure could touch his toes and mine. I still touch my toes every day. Do you? It's important to remain fit. I do a knees bend workout every morning. Oh you've got to bend your knees. That's it. Wow. I got myself on a no exercise program. Oh, you've got to bend your knees. That's it. Wow.
Starting point is 00:09:48 I got myself on a no exercise program. Oh, smart. Yeah. It's working out real good. I'm beating the system. I says no exercise. Well, okay. Should we start talking about this episode of Bonanza today? Okay. We watch a real good one, man. I tell you what I like to say. Well, it was a season two episode 16. The courtship was the name of this episode. This episode has everything. It has a woman with speaking part.
Starting point is 00:10:12 It's got the entire cast shows up for this episode. That's unusual. And yet another Cartwright boy getting engaged to be married. Man, oh man, that's become to be now, I wish we'd been keeping track of that from the start because I don't know, it's got to have happened at least six times by now. Cartwright boys are always getting engaged to be married. Well, they were about seven plus and that was one of them.
Starting point is 00:10:34 I guess so. I don't know, but it always happens fast. It always happens around like the second time they interact with the woman. They must skip a generation because they've been engaged so many times, yet never done the deal. And yet, Paul Cartwright's been married three times. Right. And they all died. Yeah. Yeah. Or were killed. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:53 And then we also have an instance of Michael Landon doing his own stunt. I'm sure you caught that. You appreciate that. Taking a shirt off. He did find. Oh, yeah. We had two shirtless Cartwright boys. That's true. Now, the fun fact is in the very opening scene when Haas is soaping himself up,
Starting point is 00:11:08 because he's a big man. Yeah, he's in the tub. He was a large fellow, and I was in charge of the bubbles. You were? Yes, I put all the bubbles on his back. You did a damn good job. I know, because he said,
Starting point is 00:11:21 it's enough bubbles, and I said, no. Oh really? No bubbles. Let me ask you no. Oh really? More bubbles. Let me ask you a technical question about that. Show us. All that hair on his back, is it good to keep the bubbles in place, or does it pop the bubbles,
Starting point is 00:11:31 as opposed to like little Joe's smooth as a baby's butt? I am so glad that you asked that question. Thank you. Because we did 17 tests. My God. Of bubbles to find the right kind. Okay. Now, we did have to shave patches of his back
Starting point is 00:11:48 to make it stick. I did see that his back hair is in patches. It is uneven. It is in patches. It's a bit territorial. Yeah. Yeah, it's a bit strange. But man, I was thinking,
Starting point is 00:11:56 when they turn the camera around and you see a full-on shot of Hoss in the tub, if there had been no bubbles, we would have seen the whole Hoss. I mean, and I did. Oh, I'm sure you did. I did. Could you tell us a bit about that?
Starting point is 00:12:11 What would you like to know? Would you like me to draw you a topographical map? Well, don't make me ask. All right. It's fine. Oh, I'm sure. Sometimes a big man, you expect a little more. Oh, I'm sure. You know, sometimes a big man, you expect a little more. Oh, I see. But maybe the truth is it's the bigness of him in general stealing resources from another area is what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:12:31 It might be that the barrel of his chest has stolen. Taken from the tap. That's what they say. Yep, the bigger the chest, the smaller the rest. Yeah. That's what they say. You are a poet. You're damn right, I got a ribos dictionary in my brain.
Starting point is 00:12:49 I couldn't have come up with that in a million years and he just spits it out. Hot dog. Well, that's interesting that that old Dan Blocker felt the need to get fully nude for that scene. You know, he could have probably got away with a bathing suit, don't you think? Sure, but he is.
Starting point is 00:13:01 But he's just that kind of guy. Yeah, he's a committed actor. He's fucking, I'm gonna do it. He's practicing his craft. Yeah. All right, well, I usually begin talking about the air date. This episode aired on January the 7th of 1961, and I talk about what was going on in the country the night this episode aired.
Starting point is 00:13:19 It would have been a Saturday. And the number one movie in the country was Spartacus. You ever see Spartacus? Yeah. Yes. Yeah Spartacus? Yeah. Yeah, you have? I ain't never seen it, but Spartacus, apparently, we've talked a lot about Ben Hur on this podcast because Ben Hur was the number one movie
Starting point is 00:13:33 for 56 goddamn weeks or some shit last year. And I'm so happy to have it behind us. And yet Spartacus came about because Kirk Douglas was mad that he wasn't the lead role in Ben Hur. So he says, I got it. I'm gonna need my own Ben Hur. Oh, wow. Damn it. So we do have to talk about Ben Hur again. So he figured that out and then got Spartacus made in the time that Ben Hur had debuted.
Starting point is 00:13:58 And then that stayed at number one until Spartacus came out with the exception of Butterfield 8. Right. That's about right. Holy shit. And there was somebody else was making a Spartacus came out with the exception of Butterfield 8? Right, that's about right. Holy shit. And there was somebody else was making a Spartacus 2. There was another- Spartacus 2, there's a sequel? No, there was. Spartacus 2?
Starting point is 00:14:13 I wish. This time it's more personal. But Kirk Douglas had to rush his Spartacus to market. Dalton Trimble wrote the script in one week. And Kubrick directed it. And Kubrick directed it. And Kubrick directed it, but he didn't have creative control, so he doesn't like to include it amongst his movies. But here's now, here's, this is a fine piece of film history trivia. Ready for this? Yep.
Starting point is 00:14:35 There's a scene in this movie, they shot it, where Laurence Olivier is homosexually trying to seduce Tony Curtis in a bathtub of all places, right? And some kind of group, the League of American Decent People or something says, well, that's funny you thought you could put that in a movie. You can't. You got to take that part out. And they did. But in the 1990s, they found that scene and they says, we're going to restore it. But they didn't have the audio. Do you know this? They had the footage, but not the audio. And they says, well, Tony Curtis can come in and do his part again, but old Laurie Olivier, he done died. What are we going to do? And it was Lawrence Olivier's widow who said, oh, you know who could do it? Gilbert Gottfried. Yes, he should have used Gilbert Gottfried. No, any other guesses as to
Starting point is 00:15:22 who it might've been? Dana Carvey, so it's- Dana Carvey. Dana, he can do just about anybody. Just anybody. Yeah, that's a good point. What year was it in early- 1991. 1991. Who did they bring in?
Starting point is 00:15:34 Alec Guinness, John Gilgud, Derek Jacobi. I love these. These are good guesses. No, but they're wrong. Was there anybody named Dan? There just seemed to be so many fellows named Dan. There's a lot of Dan's these days. This was not a Dan. These are interesting.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Is it an English actor? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's an English actor. And of the same class as Olivier? I would say so. Well, class, what you mean class? Like just same age and stature? Well, I believe they went with a younger fellow at the time. That's a real good guess. I love these guesses. Just. Just so good. You're closer. You're certainly, you really are. Oh shit. I believe you are Royal Shakespeare company.
Starting point is 00:16:12 I'll give you that. Kenneth Brown. Oh, real good. Too young. Maybe not. Yeah. Think older than older than him. I could just tell you. No, I'm keen. Is it an Anthony? What would you say? Anthony. Anthony Burgess. No, Anthony. What is the man who was in silence of the lounge? That's it Anthony Hopkins! That's what I was trying to come up with, but my brain doesn't work very well.
Starting point is 00:16:38 No, your brain works real good. Anthony Hopkins. Anthony Hopkins. So if you see Spartacus today, you will see the body of Laurence Olivier and the voice of Anthony Hopkins trying to get it on with Tony Curtis' body and older voice. Wow, that was an exhilarating round of try to guess who did the voice of Laurence Olivier. Maybe we should make that a regular feature of the show. Try to guess who did the voice of Laurence Olivier in this movie or that movie.
Starting point is 00:17:03 I love it. Most of the time, the answer is probably going to be Laurence Olivier. Well, we could also play that with Val Kilmer. Oh, guess who did the voice of Val Kilmer in that movie? The Snowman? Wasn't that Not His Voice or something like that? Now, tell me what this Snowman is. Oh, Mr. Police, that movie with the... Is there a movie called Mr. Police?
Starting point is 00:17:23 There ought to be. There probably was. I would watch it or I would at least have you watch it and tell me about it. I'd be willing to do that. I've seen it. Anyway, that's neither here nor there. Let's continue on. All right. I don't even know if I'm right. The number one country song was North to Alaska by Johnny Horton. According to Wikipedia, Horton is best known for a series of history-inspired narrative country saga songs. Oh, did you do a cover of that song? Must have. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Well, no, I did. From Alaska to Tennessee. Yeah. North Tula. I did the Bering Strait of How Close is Russia? My Neighbor, I Can See My House From Here. That sounds like a good song. This movie had, oh it was a theme song of a movie called North to Alaska, which had in it both Fabian and Capuchin.
Starting point is 00:18:13 I love Capuchin. You do Capuchin? Do you know about her death? No, how'd she die? Capuchin? Yeah, she threw herself out of an apartment building. She did? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Oh wow. But she was something else, man. She probably thought she could fly, don't you think? Yeah, well I think she just had enough. What year was this? Because I will tell you this, during those Bonanza years it was of course the counterculture in the later seasons and we did a lot of drugs. Really? Yes, I dropped acid and dropped trowel with most of the major stars of the time. You're kidding me. Right there on the Paramount line?
Starting point is 00:18:51 Yes. Wow. Well, if I just ask you this, guess who came to my dinner? Anthony Hopkins. Wrong. Laurence Olivier. Fabian. No, guess who?
Starting point is 00:19:03 You guys are terrible. Capuchin. Capuchin. It was Capuchin. Sidney Poitier. No, guess who? You guys are terrible. Capuchin. Capuchin. It was Capuchin. Sidney Poitier. Oh, I'll never tell. Oh, it had to be. Was he in that movie?
Starting point is 00:19:12 Guess who come to dinner? Horton, this guy, Johnny Horton, his song is number one on the charts, but he's been dead for two months. Unfortunately, he died in a car accident. His wife when he died was also the wife of Hank Williams Sr. when he died. Oh, that, that-
Starting point is 00:19:28 Billie Jean. Oh. Billie Jean. And is she a murderer? That's what people say. They say that, but both of these, she wasn't there, she wasn't anywhere near when these men died, and they both died in a car on their way to a gig. Well, now I think it might be time to revisit whether she's a murder or not, but there are some that think that she got Hank Williams Sr. drunk all the time and put him in that car
Starting point is 00:19:50 against his better angels, I guess. Yeah. Poor Hank Williams Sr. had two gigs, New Year's Eve and New Year's Day, and he didn't make it to the first one because he was too drunk, and then he died on the way to the second one. But she wasn't in the car. No, but didn't, well. I don't know, but anyway, he died. She marries another guy, he dies in the car. Then she dated Johnny Cash and then she,
Starting point is 00:20:16 oh, one thing she did later in her life, they were just trying to make a movie about Hank Williams Sr.'s life and she had them stopped. She got it stopped because she thought it put her in a negative light. You know who's going to play Hank Williams Sr.? Lawrence Livia. Anthony Hopkins. Gilbert Goff. I feel like you guys are so far from- John Tesh. I'll tell you- He can sing. He can sing. This guy, we was going to do a triple feature of his movies.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Recently, we had that idea to do it. Oh, and one of them is a vampire movie. Nicholas Cage. Good guesses. It's George Hamilton. What? Yeah. George Hamilton is Hank Williams senior, but that movie never got made.
Starting point is 00:20:58 But it did get made with Tom Hiddleston is Hank Williams senior. Oh yeah. I've seen that. Don't bother. Number one song in the country. That was country song. Number one song is, Are You Lonesome Tonight Again by Elvis Presley. Now, this episode aired on January the 7th. I happen to know that Elvis Presley's birthday is January the 8th. That's the same as my friend Matt's dad. Is that right? Yeah. Well, I thought to myself, maybe he couldn't have watched Bonanza that night because he's busy having a birthday
Starting point is 00:21:25 party. So I went and checked it out. But that's not the case. He was free to watch Bonanza on the 7th. See, now the 8th, his birthday was a Sunday. So I figured maybe he had a birthday party on the Saturday night. But no, he had his birthday party on the Friday night. You knew that?
Starting point is 00:21:39 How did you find that out? Well, you just Google it up. You look at Elvis Presley's 26th birthday. Of course, that's Google it up. You look at Elvis Presley's 26th birthday. Of course that's been written about. It says his birthday and his honor took place on the set of Wild in the Country. On Friday night, the cast and crew gave Elvis a plaque reading, Happy Birthday, King Karate. You know Elvis Presley was very much involved in karate.
Starting point is 00:22:02 All right. Well, that's nice that he had Saturday Night Free to watch Bonanza. Exactly. Well, everybody Presley was very much involved in karate. Well, that's nice of him. He had Saturday Night Free to watch Bonanza. Exactly. Well, everybody was watching it. Oh, for sure. Everybody was watching. You've got to get those morals. They've got to tell us all about the morals and somebody's got to fall down.
Starting point is 00:22:15 I'm thinking of possibly subjecting you guys to, oh, this is not the clip I wanted to, so guess what I want. I'm curious now. I made a mistake. My interest has been piqued. Well, we'll see what this is, but it's not what I thought it was. But Elvis Presley was so into karate that in two years before his death, so 74 or three or something like that, he spent $125,000 of his own money to make a documentary about
Starting point is 00:22:43 karate. Oh. And it didn't get finished. Sure. He spent $125,000 of his own money to make a documentary about karate. It didn't get finished. So, at some point in the 80s, they released the footage and with somebody who was there narrating over it. Anthony Hopkins. Good guesses. But this is not the clip I meant to show from it, but it's probably good. Oh, play now.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Oh, what? Elvis and karate, was he any good at it? Well, I don't want this to be the... That's the question that people ask. How did I get the wrong damn, you know something always goes wrong. Here's what I'm, oh here it is, karate, no, god damn it. All right, here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna research it all over again,
Starting point is 00:23:24 because I even wrote down time codes of some of the most interesting karate that he gets into. Things do go wrong. You know, in this episode of Bonanza, they kept telling that guest actress less teeth, less teeth. But she went exactly the opposite. And you see her, she never is not showing her teeth. I read up about that. And I was supposed to be, I was off camera
Starting point is 00:23:47 and I kept having to tell her, I was just miming to close your mouth, but she wouldn't do it. I read about that. She talked about that later. She thought everyone was saying, let's see, let's see. Let's see. More teeth.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Yes, more teeth. Okay, let's take a look at Elvis demonstrating. Things go wrong. Demonstrating teeth. Okay, let's take a look at Elvis demonstrating. Things go wrong. Demonstrating something. Elvis Presley, oh he looks, well, that's how he looked at the time. He's high as a kite this whole time. God bless him, here we go.
Starting point is 00:24:15 He could have used a little powder. Imagine fighting high as a kite, Elvis Presley. Discussing and demonstrating these five moves, and I'll talk more about them on another camera. Bro. Holy shit. Oh, it's all so fast. Oh.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Oh, man. He seems volatile. Yeah. Coiled. That's sort of the famous tear out your throat from Roadhouse move that he's demonstrating there. How terrified must that other man be? Yeah, because you know what?
Starting point is 00:24:54 It's an unfair advantage in a karate fight if you are hopped up on painkillers, you know what I mean? Sure. You're not gonna feel the counter blows. And you are just a real wild card in that ring. That's an unfair disadvantage to be facing off Elvis with all the implications of can I defend myself and hurt a rock king.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Yeah, and a karate king. Here, let's see this clip. Oh, that's some glisten. Oh, he's getting the gun away from a man. Oh no. Now that's not Chuck Norris. Looks like it. Now, look at all this,
Starting point is 00:25:26 but the gun is still in the man's hand. What's that? He's doing this thing, he likes to scratch their faces and scratch your beard off. The gun is still in his hand. The gun is still in his hand. That man could shoot him at any moment.
Starting point is 00:25:38 He had a lot of opportunities to shoot Elvis. I appreciate though that it's an old west revolver. Oh, it was? What I want is in Elvis's mind, is he doing karate on people in the old west? He's just come to town with this new form of fighting that no one can handle. Not a bad idea. Okay. This clip I think is fairly famous, mostly because of the, the narration that accompanies it.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Poor man trying to make sense of it, But here, all right, here goes Elvis. Here goes Elvis. This is for the whole family. I got this, he says. He's like, oh, what, what? He's just, he's got what I'd like to call little noodle hands. He was striking at vital parts of the body. No he wasn't, he's picking up spiders.
Starting point is 00:26:23 It's hard to recognize them for the novice. Isn't that helpful? It's hard for the novice to recognize that he's striking at vital parts of the body. It looks like he's, what would you, it looks like he's kneading dough. Or tickling him. Yeah, just doing little light tickles.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Tickle here, tickle there. Yeah, that's it. That's all I wanted to show you. Picking up hot coals. Clips from Elvis's unfinished documentary about karate. Well, I will say at that time we just did love our drugs. Yeah. He'd seen pretty high.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Oh well. Poor Elvis. Anyway, he had the number one song on his birthday. That's nice. And a celebrity birthdays is a Senator from South Dakota by the name of John Thune was born on the day this episode aired. I read his entire Wikipedia page and I couldn't find one interesting thing to tell you. I swear to God I couldn't.
Starting point is 00:27:16 So, all right, let's get into fun facts about the cast of this episode. You ready? Yep. Come on, Mufasa, let's get in some trouble. This Friday, destiny awaits you. You can grab your friends and experience Mufasa the Lion King in 3D. Everything the light touches belongs to me. You'll have to take it.
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Starting point is 00:28:38 That's right, thank you. Her big claim to fame is that she was the woman that the creature from the Black Lagoon fell in love with in The Creature from the Black Lagoon fell in love with and the creature from the Black Lagoon. In some ways, this episode is similar to that. You know what I mean? Like a kind of a monster. I'm not saying Hoss Cartwright's a monster, but he's a beast of a man falls in love with her and she's not really all that into it.
Starting point is 00:29:04 She was also, do you ever see the movie The Devil's Advocate with Keanu Reeves? And Al Pacino. Al Pacino. Yeah. Sure. Charlize Theron. She is credited in that movie as dialect coach now. Uh oh.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Now I just hope it wasn't her responsibility to make Keanu Reeves sound like a man from the South. Well, I wonder if she was also responsible for his English accent in Bram Stoker's Dracula. This is worth looking into. Yeah, also much due by nothing. He does that common mistake when Americans trying to sound British by giving th-a-t an accent when it doesn't need it like hand me thought oh yeah you just go hand me that yeah
Starting point is 00:29:52 not Keanu Reeves he put a little extra English on the ball sure Keanu Reeves she was also in a movie with with Jimmy Stewart oh she. She was a movie star. Oh, you need this brain to come up with a title? No, thank you. Those years have passed. Appreciate your honesty. You go ask Google. She was also in a movie in 1971 called The Last Movie. They were wrong. No, they did make more. They made more after that. Really? Yeah. They thought that was going to be the last one. I wonder what it was about that movie that they said, I don't think anybody's gonna make another one after that. That was kind of popular because then they'd go like Friday the 13th, part four, the final chapter, you know. And then they say, well, nope, no psych. Yep, same with Nightmare on Elm Street, they did one.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Same with every Rolling Stones tour. And she also, I, I, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because I have, you know, we are almost contemporaries. Right. She was in a bunch of murders she wrote. Oh yeah, she played a realtor in a bunch of murders she wrote there, yes. I don't know if she ever did the murders, I don't think so. Well, maybe she did all of them, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:31:03 That's a beautiful theory. And somebody else, that crazy old lady, thought she did all of them. You know what I mean? That's a beautiful theory. Somebody else, that crazy old lady, thought she's solving murders, but she's locking up all kinds of other people when there's a serial killer on the loose in her small town. That makes more sense. Well, yeah, she's fine.
Starting point is 00:31:17 She's, I believe, she's the first actress that we've seen on this movie who spoke with that classic kind of old movie star. Oh, yes. Transatlantic. That's what, because she was a, that she had started in movies. She started in movies. So she knew how to use that, what is it, transcontinental?
Starting point is 00:31:34 Yeah, or transatlantic. Transatlantic, yes. Yes, it's beautiful. It sounds beautiful. Frank the car dealer, Paul Duboff, he was, it is an interesting story to me, I think. He was a writer. He married a successful television writer who had three husbands, all of whom were her writing partner through her career. Isn't that interesting? But she was a writer first. She's got credits all by herself. And then her and her first husband have writing credits and her and her second husband.
Starting point is 00:32:01 And isn't that it? What's that? How do you explain that? Well, I think they were freeloaders. She wrote the scripts and it is a man's world as you've seen this is one of the only women that speaks on each show. That's it right there's just one woman. It was a time there couldn't be two women on camera who had speaking roles. Yeah. No, we talked about this, but probably you know, you probably worked in the sound department at some point. On Bonanza, we believe that they must have had man mics and women microphones and they only had one for the women because you never have more than one
Starting point is 00:32:38 woman with a speaking role in an episode of Bonanza. And when there was, they didn't give her a mic and Anthony Hopkins had to come and make the sounds for her. That's right. There's Paul Dubov was in, he wrote the movie with six, you get egg roll. Which has ended George Carlin and an actor by the name of John Findlater.
Starting point is 00:33:00 I love that last name, Findlater. It's not important now. Yeah. I don't need it now. I'll find that name later. Yeah. What's your last name? Every time I hear a good last name, I think, could it be mine? Oh, yeah. I wonder. You could be Francine Find Leader. I could be.
Starting point is 00:33:16 France Pants. France. Francine Pants. Francine Pants. Just because when I was around when I was a kid, everybody called me Francie Pants. So I just adopted that as a last name. It's a good last name. Everybody loves Pants. Yeah, Mrs. Pants.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Sure. Mrs. Pants. Can you imagine all the fun they must have had? What's your last name? Find Later. No, I need to know it now. It's Find Later. I know I need to, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:33:37 Third Base. Third Base, boy, oh boy. I'm gonna do that later tonight with my friends. That sounds good. He was in a movie, Frank the card dealer, Paul Dubov was in a movie called the she creature. Sheecher. Here comes the explanation of the synopsis. A mysterious hypnotist reverts his beautiful assistant back into the form of a
Starting point is 00:33:57 prehistoric sea monster that she was in a past life. Got to see that. That's bringing in what year did that come out? I didn't write it down, but in the 60s I guess. Because that sounds like he might have come up with that on one of our acid trips. Oh right. So we were exploring new worlds and our own past lives. Wow, hell that's exciting. That's a good time to be alive.
Starting point is 00:34:23 He was also in a movie in 1943 called We've Never Been Licked. And yet, they all have. I'll tell you that. Oh no. Sometimes so much they couldn't dry off. It'll happen. Lyle Talbot was in the last scene of this movie. He's the handsome dude in the bar. He's the next Mark. He's got one of the longest resumes I've ever seen in my life. He left his trailer filthy. At that time, I had to clean all the trailers at the end. I thought maybe I could sleep in his because he was just a day player.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Right. But they had it and there was no one coming in the next day, but I couldn't because it was a mess. Unbelievable. He seems like such a fancy fella too. Well, I know, but his long resume, he must have, somebody must have told him to start cleaning up his mess. I hope so. These men.
Starting point is 00:35:16 He was the first actor to play Lex Luthor. No shit. Yeah. He was in a bunch of Ed Wood movies, including the famous one, the Playing Nine from outer space. Who did he play in that? Some general playing nine from outer space. He was a general of some kind. He was a, he was a, this is his only bonanza. I believe he was, did I write that? Maybe somebody else, but he did a whole bunch of shit. He was in a movie called The Night. No wait, that's a
Starting point is 00:35:41 different guy. Who am I looking at? Lyle Tabot, okay. It was the guy that played Hammond that was in a movie called The Night the World Exploded, and I was a shoplifter, and The Lusty Man, and They Saved Hitler's Brain. Those are great movies. They just don't do good titles anymore. I know, right? I know, we've never been licked, and it's a sequel.
Starting point is 00:36:04 Never been licked. We've been licked. We've been licked and we liked it. Part three. Won't come over for some licking. We're pretty into this now. The last actor I want to tell you about is Charles Tannen, who played Charlie, the bartender. Two episodes ago, he played Dave, the bartender. This time he's Charlie. This is like the telegram friend.gram friend. They can't give you the same roller else they have to pay you a bump. Yep. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Right. That's clever. That's tough. Now Preston Sturgis wrote about Charlie Tannen in a trade paper advertisement. What? I know. I don't, I couldn't find the ad itself, but there was an ad in the trades and Preston Sturgis wrote copy for the ad. And I'll tell you what he took out the ad for him or he just
Starting point is 00:36:47 worked as a copywriter. Well, I'll read you what the ad said and then we'll try to figure out what the hell. Try Coca-Cola. This guy likes it. Preston Sturgis was a famous director at the time that he wrote this in this ad. He says, if you have a middle-aged character part,
Starting point is 00:37:04 either Gentile or Jewish, either comic or dramatic, I urge you to give it to Tannen, and I guarantee that you will be enchanted by his authority, his unction, his voice, his theatrical resource, and his profound ability. What photographs? This was an ad? It was an ad in the trades.
Starting point is 00:37:21 So actors now could just get a director and write some nice things about them. Take out like a quarter page ad in Variety. I'm just saying. I just heard of this. So if somebody would say there's actors, Aaron Hayes, they would just say, if you want a tall, middling aged woman who can sometimes be believable, go for Aaron Hayes.
Starting point is 00:37:43 But can you play Gentiles and Jews? Oh no, she's a chick-sa only. Okay, alright, well you have to specify that. Hi, I'm non-problematic director John Landis and I'm here to vouch for the acting stylings of Erin Hayes. I heard the call, nobody else stepped up, I'll do it. What photographs did this man have on Preston Sturgis
Starting point is 00:38:05 that he got him to put that out in the paper? That's a good question. Was it maybe a deleted gay scene? Could have been. Did he did the voiceover for a real gay scene? I don't know, this guy was also a writer. It was the lost footage of two in the tub. Tub licking.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Tub licking. We like it. Hey, one thing I found out about Preston Sturges, his real name is Edmund Preston Biden, B-I-D-E-N. Now why would you choose Sturges over Biden as your professional name? Sturges is a strange sounding thing. I mean, it's got some manliness to it. Makes me think of this fish, the sturgeon.
Starting point is 00:38:48 A sturgeon, sure. But anyways, he must be our current president's grandfather is the only thing. Nobody's talking about it. It's the only one. It's the only thing that makes sense. There are no other Biden. I never heard of him.
Starting point is 00:39:02 There's no Sturges. He would produce those, like the Great Escape or something. Oh, There's another Sturgis. He would produce those like the Great Escape or something like that. Oh, there's another Sturgis. Oh, maybe he was piggybacking on someone else's fame to then create his own. He's hoping to benefit from false nepotisms, right? False nepotisms. It is. Coming up, here we go. Any second now, John Sturgis. John Sturgis.
Starting point is 00:39:25 And he's a director. He's a director. Oh, that's right, he looks like Mark McConville. Oh, is he related to Princeton Sturgis? Oh, good Lord, he does. Good looking fellow, he's got those beautiful eyes. Is he? No, but he's related to his wife, Catherine Sturgis.
Starting point is 00:39:42 That's too bad, it was a different time. Are they related by marriage? By blood? Now his name is John Sturgis, but he's got a sibling named Sturgis Karn. What the fuck? In the Holy Fall. That doesn't make any damn sense. Hold on. Did he have a different last name? And he says, I want to change my last name.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Sturgis, you don't mind if I use your first name as my last name, do you? Yeah. And were they all contemporaries? John. Sturgis, you don't mind if I use your first name as my last name, do you? Yeah. And were they all contemporaries? John Elliot Sturgis. Okay. How can that be? These people sound like they're crazy.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Well, here's the thing. I've learned you can just say your name is whatever you want it to be. Oh, yeah. You'd know. Yes. Oh, yeah. You've never seen your birth certificate, sounds like. No. You don't even know where you were born. No, I had a prop master make me one. Oh, you've never seen your birth certificate, sounds like. No. You don't even know where you were born. No, I had a prop master make me one.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Oh you did? Yes. Looks great. We had to spill coffee on it. Oh sure. And then they could just do everything. Those prop people are amazing. Yeah, prop people are amazing.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Incredible. Put the raised seal on there and everything. Unbelievable. We should probably get to the episode because I forgot to mention I have a heart out. Oh what is it? What is it? Eleven o'clock? Well, I mean it's close to.
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Starting point is 00:42:12 And there's the assumption that she is going to be a haggard old lady and Joe doesn't want to go because there's some filly that he was eyeing earlier in the day. And so he threw a crazy machination involving a ha just about having to be nude in the hallway of a hotel. Joe gets out of going to see this widow. And it's, and that turns out to be the major, I mean, the big mistake of the episode. If Joe had gone along in the first place, none of this crap would have happened. I bet you don't you think? Yes, of course. Well, then we get, uh, this is the 48th episode of Bonanza in which they've had the burning map and the opening credits. Isn't that interesting? All right. Now, Hoss goes to the widow's house. The door is open. There ain't no furniture in there. This poor widow, she's all by herself in this empty house. And she's so upset. And she sees the my husband had all these creditors coming around.
Starting point is 00:43:06 She just cries on the stairs and they need smelling salts. She needs her smelling salts. Her personal smelling salts. Go get me my smelling salts. They're in my smelling salts case that I got for my wedding. Yeah, she just collapses. I want to have personal smelling salts. Well, I'll send some over.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Will you? Yes, I always send a thank you gift. Cause you're fainting all the time. Oh yes, I'm always fainting everything. Hoss immediately, let's love at first sight, he falls for this gal and then he tells a pretty gal like you ought not to have to think about nothing but living every minute of every day.
Starting point is 00:43:40 That's poetry. And did you see this, the longing in his eyes as he looks at her creamy skin? Because she seems very moisturized. He's got a clasp up her dress and the tension is palpable. This is the most flesh I've ever seen in Bonan's episode. Also, why is my posture the way it is? It's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:44:00 It's looking good. You are sitting fancy. You're a little teapot. I'm Mrs. Potts murder, she wrote herself. Well, so, yeah, he has to button up her dress and he gets to see like about an inch and a half of the dress under her dress. That is racy.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Because she just takes it off, she goes, I'm gonna change and she just pretty much throws her robe off. I know. Which is scandalous. Yeah, oh boy, I had to take a break. And she's only got seven layers underneath that robe. Exactly. And she's getting real flirty.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Seven layer dip. They go out to a restaurant where she's got a favorite table, but there's a man there who, he's very rude, and he says, God damn it, give me that ring back. And well, you know, if you're trying, if you, if Hoss is on a date and you've got a beef with his date and you cost her to try to pry a ring off her finger, you're gonna get punched real hard.
Starting point is 00:44:53 That's what happens. That's what happens. Even unless that fellow take the first punch. He does, I know. Just hang him, just woke him up. Yeah, that's why Hoss says, well, now you've done it. And that's it. All right, so.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Well, he was six foot four I believe who that Haas? Yeah, it's all right. Yeah. Why would you start a fight with the horse? I'm too six foot four Told me and that just my memory Will the horse and this lady they go home and it's just, it's one of these times where if somebody was to tell this story in a modern episode of television, they would have done it in 12 minutes. But it,
Starting point is 00:45:32 about a minute and a half, the entire courtship. Right. Pretty much. Could have been a title card. Yeah. Things go nice and slow. They have a long conversation out there in the,
Starting point is 00:45:43 in the wagon, in the carriage before they go into the house. And he promises she's going to find her a living situation that's better than living all alone in that empty house. Oh yes, I have mistaken it because then they go on, but he's like, she can't come camping. Yeah, yeah. She could do it. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Well, Joe and Hoss have a conversation in their hotel room here. Poor Joe in a bit of foreshadowing, I believe. He got ripped off by that Phyllis. She took his money. She took his money from him. Right, so oh well. But now Hoss says,
Starting point is 00:46:19 "'We gotta take old Helen Layton back with us to the Ponderosi.'" And Joe is still thinking she's a old crone, but to find out, nope, they go to lunch tomorrow. Joe meets her and there's a very funny scene there where Joe, he thinks he's going to get her in bed or whatever. He starts real flirting with Helen Layton, not realizing Hoss has already put his mark on her. That's Hoss's girl. So now, that's it, they're going. They're off on their way to the Ponderosa.
Starting point is 00:46:49 They're camping, it's nighttime on the campsite. And the Ponderosa is so goddamn big that this is their second night camping on the Ponderosa and they haven't made it to the ranch yet from Sacramento. Well, maybe they're just spiraling into the center. Oh, maybe that's right. They may not be taking a straight line. They're doing like a cakewalk. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:10 A slow cakewalk. It's a good idea. But she is very impressed by how much money Haas seems to have. My goodness seems to be a bottomless amount of money. Yeah, they really give it away in the beginning with her, don't they? Yeah, I guess so. This is not a subtle show typically. But she grew up poor and she says, oh my goodness, could a commoner like me ever be a cart ride?
Starting point is 00:47:32 She's just putting it right out there. They've known each other about 24 hours, 48 hours. She say, let's do it. And then she goes, why haven't you kissed me? And that's all it takes. Hoss plants one kiss on that and damn, he just hoots and hollers and says, we're getting married. That's all it takes.
Starting point is 00:47:49 I could frame him. Now back at the ranch, Paul is not so sure about it, but he has a conversation with Helen where she explains, my husband got drunk and he ruined my life and now I blah, blah, blah, and weepy, weepy. And Paul says, welcome to the family. blah, blah, blah, and weepy, weepy, and Paul says, welcome to the family. Oh.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Oh. And then, oh, then we have our establishing shot of downtown Virginia City. I always miss this. You always miss it, yeah. It's, I'm sure you remember the day they shot it. They shot it one day, they got a bunch of extras in there, maybe you're even in it.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Oh, yes. Bunch of extras. I'm carrying packages. You are, okay. And every time we're going to Virginia City, they show us the same shot of the same people Oh yes. Bunch of extras. I'm carrying packages. You are? Okay. And every time we're going to Virginia City, they show us the same shot of the same people doing the same things. Well, what, are we going to shoot it new every week?
Starting point is 00:48:33 No, I suppose not. No, there, we're at the Paramount lot, not actually Lake Tahoe. I know, I know. But it makes us wonder if Virginia City's caught in a time loop of some kind. Same things keep happening. Yeah, Needlenose Ned comes out and says to Groundhog Day Guy, It's me, Ned. Well, okay, now, old Helen gets her, gets her eyes on a gambling establishment, the Sazerac, and there's a slot machine in there. They made that pretty. They sure did. That's props. Yeah, that's props. Props and set dressing.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Makes me wonder if they just really knocked it out of the park. Had that road episode around it. It was so nice. Because that seems special to me. Yeah. Well, she says, go away for an hour. She comes up with an excuse to get rid of them
Starting point is 00:49:20 and she asks for $300 and then she sits down and starts playing goddamn poker. Damn it. And then she runs out of her money and the dealer says, well, if you're the future Mrs. Cartwright, I'll extend you some credit. $5,000 worth it turns out. Well, now Adam has returned to the Ponderosa. We don't really quite understand where he was, but he says that he won the case in San Francisco. Some sort of legal proceeding going on, but that's all they tell us about it. You won the case. I guess he's a part-time lawyer. Backdoor pilot for cowboy lawyer.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Cowboy, San Francisco cowboy lawyer. They did start shooting that cowboy lawyer and that whole thing went kablooie. Just belly up. Oh, that's too sad. But Adam turns out was at the funeral for Helen Layton's husband, who was Ben Cartwright's old friend,
Starting point is 00:50:07 and he's got information about Helen that is deeply disturbing, namely that she is a compulsive gambler, and that she drove her husband to drink, and that between her dead husband, who only died two months ago, and Hoss Cartwright, there was another fella that she bled- The man with the ring.
Starting point is 00:50:23 Right, must've been the guy in the restaurant. Well, now, Paul, oh, poor Hoss, gotta tell him. You know, but Hoss didn't want to hear it. Basically, Paul breaks the news real slow to Hoss. That's a long scene. Oh. And Hoss can't believe it. He gives Helen a chance to explain, and she does.
Starting point is 00:50:43 She preemptively says that her husband led her friends to say horrible things about her. You know what I mean? She knows what's coming. She goes, people say terrible things about me, but you won't believe them, will you Haas? And he says, no, I don't care about your past. Don't tell me nothing about your past.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Well, this is when old Adam and Joe hatch a plan. To spend a lot of money. It's a fascinating plan. It's a very interesting plan. Yeah, so now Haas understands that his fiance has gambled away $5,000 of cart-write money in the Sazerac, but he doesn't care. He doesn't want to hear about it.
Starting point is 00:51:20 He loves her. And so Adam says, well, how about this? We will take her to the Sazerac and we will, uh, I will sit there and continue to write her checks for an infinite amount of money until Hoss comes in. And if $5,000 didn't impress him, whatever this amount ends up being, it's going to be $20,000. It ends up being $20,000. Which is what in today's money?
Starting point is 00:51:45 What is that? Oh, I cannot even imagine. I should have a conversion table. Couple hundred thousand dollars? I'd say at least. Now, the way that she manages to lose $20,000 is that she is the worst poker player that ever lived. Like she is, has she ever, she lost in the beginning,
Starting point is 00:52:02 she lost the slot machine. We never see her win a damn thing. She won one pull of a slot. That's right. And that's it. She literally, it seems like hours and hours and hours of poker and she never wins a single hand. Oh hell, it's the journey, not the destiny. I guess so.
Starting point is 00:52:18 But you never see, I think most gamblers would tell you, oh it's that one little nibble of God, oh boy I won that hand that makes you go back in. She is just punished every time she puts a bit down. She hasn't got it. She's gone cold. Scared money is gone money. You can't be afraid of it. I guess that's right. Trust me. Well, now Haas comes in and that $5,000 didn't make a dent in his love for, for Helen, but $20,000. That's a different story. That's not true.
Starting point is 00:52:44 That's a lot of money. That's too much. That's a lot of money. And so Adam says, sorry, Haas, I don't know what to tell you. And sure enough, he punches out his brother Adam, and then he punches Joe, and Joe flies across two tables to land on the ground. Doing his own stunts.
Starting point is 00:52:59 Doing his own stunts. Oh, Lando, he loved to do his own stunts. He did. Oh, yes. Yeah, I thought I could. Lando was he loved to do his own stunts. Oh yeah. Yeah, I thought I could. Lando was a crazy man. Is that what everybody called him? Oh Lando, Michael Lando.
Starting point is 00:53:13 I thought I saw a smile on his face when he was tumbling over those testicles. He's happiest when flying through the air. Yeah, he's having a good time. Well that's when old Helen Layton spots a fancy fella at the bar who I guess just walked in and missed all this and he looks rich and he likes what he sees and she says, come on, let's go. And now he did that classic actor thing.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Yeah. He said, well, I think this might be a recurring. At the end, and I was the one that had to go tell him, you will not be on this set again. But he said, but I don't know, it seems interesting. Maybe it'll be a recurring. He should have taken a clue from the fact that the name of his character was handsome dude in the bar. They didn't even bother to name him.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Poor fella. That poor man had a long and lustrous career. And that's what he ends up doing. And this is a classic ending for one of these episodes. Oh, first of all, Frank, the dealer, tore up the $20,000 IOUs. He did. They didn't make much of it. They just said, we're going to subtly do this so that you know that they don't actually
Starting point is 00:54:20 lose $20,000, he says. He was in on it. Yeah. That's a strange, I was trying to figure out the arrangement with Frank the dealer, where they said to him ahead of time, I'm gonna keep writing you money. You're gonna spend all afternoon winning
Starting point is 00:54:34 enormous amounts of money, but then you're not really gonna have won anything. And you're gonna have no other clients. She was the only one at the table. They didn't wanna pay for extras that day. I guess not. It was season two. It was very popular, but they were trying to tighten the purse strings.
Starting point is 00:54:51 You should have seen the craft service day. It was terrible. Really? Season three, it got great. We can't just have that fella tell Haas, hey, your gal lost $20,000 in here today. One and done. Yeah. Now he's got to see it with his own eyes. He's gotta see it.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Yeah, I suppose. Well, back at the Ponderosa Ranch House, of course, everybody's worried about old Hoss. He's gonna be so sad. He was so in love, and it's over now, but a good old Hoss comes down. He says, hey, what are y'all sitting around for? Is anybody gonna come out and work with me on the ranch?
Starting point is 00:55:25 And man, everybody couldn't be happier. The good old hostage just buried his feelings in work and they all run out there on their horses and ride off and everything is right with the world and as good as it ever was. I miss those days. Yeah. Where we didn't talk about our feelings. Right. We all just shoved them deep inside.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Yeah. And then you either drank yourself to death or you just wound up crying on the sidewalk for a couple hours and then you pulled yourself up and moved along. That's the one. It's gotta come out. It's gotta come out.
Starting point is 00:55:54 It's coming out. Hold on. Oh no. Oh no. Keep it in. Oh no, give it a couple more hours. I corked it up. Okay, good, good.
Starting point is 00:56:01 Is that what you're doing on your heart out? Then you're gonna process your feelings I'm gonna get I'm gonna eat my heart out of my heart out That's what I said, I got a heart out got a heart out. Yeah. All right. Well, so that's it's a beautiful ending and sadly With that we only have 383 episodes left to go but it isn't that terrible Yeah, how many episodes of Bonanza was you involved in in one way or another? I mean, I was living there the entire time it was on. I mean, I was already in my early 20s when it began.
Starting point is 00:56:30 So then I just worked a bunch of different jobs and then I was still there. Went on to different sets. I slept a little bit on the set of Mr. Ed and I said, Petticoat Junction. Yeah, Brady Budge was there, Paramount. We had a great time. Oh man, that sounds good.
Starting point is 00:56:49 Well, all right, have we got you out? Well, yeah, I'm fine. You can go and keep going. I don't wanna kill this. No, that's all right. You gotta go and we're here in your home, so we'll probably go too. Yeah, I gotta go too.
Starting point is 00:57:02 I have a lot of medication to take. Oh, you do? Yes, I am propped up within an inch of my life. You gotta take all your midday pills. That's an episode of Bananas for Bananza. Here comes my classic sign off. Now get, bye now. Pfft.
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