Bonanas for Bonanza - Bonanas For Bonanza Episode #51: “Bank Run”

Episode Date: February 5, 2025

Subscribe to The Andy Daly Podcast Project at Patreon.com/AndyDaly It’s another fantastic Bonanza episode directed by western-hating film legend Robert Altman! Self-described “Alt-man”... Patton Oswalt joins Dalton and Mutt again to discuss season 2, episode 19 - “Bank Run” in all its glory, and all its mind-boggling complexity.  Featuring Matt Gourley and Patton Oswalt Merch: redbubble.com/people/ADPodProject/shopMail: PO Box 9407 Glendale, CA 91226Email: bonanaspod@gmail.comAndy’s website: andydaly.comRecord date: 11/14/2023 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:01:37 Subscribe today and now enjoy this episode of bananas for bonanza Yeah Oh, Nanza, it's the finest show alive So consult your TV guide, get your great outdoors Is there a napping baby on these premises? There is, but she's far away and you can do a woo-hoo. You think I can do a real yeehaw? I'd do like a 75 percenter. I'll give you a 75 percent yeehaw. Yeehaw! I put a silencer on my gun. You did? Yeah. All right, we're trying to be a little bit quiet. All the NRA weirders like you can't silence a revolver because the gas has actually escaped from the cylinder, not the barrel, but whatever. I'll save it for a letter that I write in there.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Well, I put six mini silencers on the cylinders as well. Oh yeah, get them mini silencers. Tell that to your NRA fucks, who happen to be among my greatest country. Exactly, yes. Hey, did you see that movie, The Killer? You could watch it again, right? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Gun fans will enjoy that movie. Oh yes, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Gun porn. Gun porn, yeah. All right, folks, Hey, murder porn. Murder porn. Yeah. And bam, that's a hell of a fight, isn't it? Oh, this fight in that movie. But we're here to talk about nothing like that. That ain't even a Western in any way, shape or
Starting point is 00:03:16 form at all. No, ma'am. We are here to talk about Bonanza. This is bananas for Bonanza. And we're talking about season two, episode 19, the bank run. And our special guest is Patton Oswald. Hello, Patton. Hello. How are you doing? Great to be here. It's wonderful to have you. It is always a joy to get to be on Bananas for Bananza. I'm pleased to hear you say that. Now, last time you was here, you was here because the episode that time was the first episode of Bananza directed by a man named Robert Altman. Robert Altman. Who evidently went on to direct a movie or two that people seem to regard highly. Yes, he kind of branched out a little bit. From Bonanza. From
Starting point is 00:03:55 Bonanza. He had a life outside of Bonanza, which it's rare. I know. But he directed some feature films. Feature films. Well, obviously the high point of his career was this work here on Bonanza. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And maybe even this episode, because he seems to have stepped it up a notch. I would say. Boy, well, can I just say, everyone stepped it up a notch
Starting point is 00:04:15 on this one as far as the crew and technical people. I will just say that right off the bat. This is a damn fine episode of Bonanza, and it is the second episode directed by Robert Altman. And so that's why we have had an all ball back to talk about it. Would you say that you are a fan of Robert Altman? I am a Robert.
Starting point is 00:04:33 I'm a Robert Altman. Oh, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho. That's right. Ah. Now who's Robert Alt? Is that a different guy? Oh, no. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Listen, Dalton. He is a fantastic seminal director from the 70s, 80s, 90s. Did movies like MASH, Nashville, McCabe and Mrs. Miller, a great we were talking about last time, which I know don't think you'd enjoy. And I don't recommend you go so we checked it out. We talked about last time. I did not like it. I don't know. I would imagine you'd be a little angry with that movie. Here's I'd say you'd be a little angry with that movie.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Here's, I'd say you're a big fan of his and I respect that. I did a little looking into him and he is, let me tell you how lazy he is. Okay. He's got some movie called The Player and the whole first eight minutes of it is one shot. Oh my God. He didn't even want to bother to yell cut. It feels like, and I don't want to, I don't know a lot about movie making, but it feels like maybe he yelled action
Starting point is 00:05:29 and then maybe he went off and got a snack and then came back. That's probably right. He didn't want to pay an editor full scale. That's what it was. It saves you a lot of money. Lazy bullshit. Well, okay. Oh wait, I didn't say the thing I always say.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Hello friend, come on in, the gate is open wide. I usually say that sometime within the first 30 minutes. Oh, okay. That's fine. And this episode has everything. It's got all four cart rights. Yep. No women with speaking roles.
Starting point is 00:05:54 This is the fastest paced and most eventful episode of this show that there ever was. You know what I mean? And I don't even think a single person was shot in this episode. But sometimes, right? I don't think a bullet gets fired. Guns are drawn, but I don't think a bullet gets fired. Well, what you lose in bullets you gain in music slash sound effects scores, much like a Walter Lance cartoon.
Starting point is 00:06:16 I was going to say the musical sting department had a like, this is our Emmy reel. Yeah, I think they were just creating things for a musical sting library and said, let's just use this episode of Bonanza to create a bunch that we'll use for the rest of perpetuity. This was a big night for Trumpets, this episode. Yes. Man. Well, let's talk a little bit about the night it aired.
Starting point is 00:06:37 I do want to reserve the bulk of our time for the episode itself. But it was January the 28th, 1961. Now, from the last week of December to the first week of February, the number one movie in the country went Exodus, Spartacus, Exodus, Spartacus, Swiss family Robinson. And now we're on that last week of Spartacus. That's what's the next week. We'll be talking about Swiss family Robinson. Exodus will be back, but Spartacus, this is it's, it's the last one.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Whoa. Good run. Yeah. What a, what a, wow, what a bloody battle that must have been. Between Exodus and Spartacus. Exodus and Spartacus. Yeah. Pick a side. You better pick a side. I know. And isn't it fitting that the winner is Switzerland,
Starting point is 00:07:15 who does not pick a side? Oh my. Thank you very much. Yeah. That's incredible. They hung back, they let both of us punch each other out. And then they stepped in and took it.
Starting point is 00:07:26 There you go. Smarties. You've done it again. I ain't never seen Spartacus, but I watched as much Exodus as Jeff Bezos would let me in 48 hours. It's a 49-hour movie. Just in my house. Well, no change on the music.
Starting point is 00:07:42 We got North to Alaska by Johnny Horton is the number one country song in Wonderland by Night by Burt Kemford and his orchestra is the number one song in the country. Oh my God. So hang on. There's already like, there has been the advent of rock and roll. So there's Ben Tutti Frutti, there's Ben Hound Dog. Oh yeah. But the kids, the thing that's coming out of their radio is North to Alaska.
Starting point is 00:08:02 And Burt Kemford. From a John Wayne movie. That's right. North to Alaska. I don't know the rush is on. That's what you had to make out to. I mean, I'm getting a little worked up just hearing it. Yeah, right. There's a sexy song, Wonderland by Night.
Starting point is 00:08:19 There was a high tolerance for instrumentals in the tap. They did. Yeah, they did quite like their instrumentals there for a while in the early 60s. I wonder when was the last time you had an instrumental on the top of the charts here in the United States. There's got to be one since, but Rocket by Herbie Hancock. Herbie Hancock, there had to have been one. There had to have.
Starting point is 00:08:41 How about the theme, you made me think of it, the theme to Rocky. That's pre-Rocket. That's pre-Rocket. Pre-Rocket, all right. But Rocky III or IV. That's Eye of the Tiger. And you could argue that there's lyrics in the theme to Rocky, Gonna Fly Now. Oh yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:08:59 There's a whole chorus singing in that. You're right. There must have been one since Herbie Hancock. Now I wanna find out if any listeners wanna, if there's anyone in the super chat. Oh yeah. Super chatters get to work. What are you saying?
Starting point is 00:09:12 Someone Google it. Even if you don't know, Google it. Lie to us and tell us you know, but just Google it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This day, January 28, 1961, was the day that the show Supercar premiered on ATV in the UK. You ever hear a supercar? It's by the same people that did Thunderbirds ago.
Starting point is 00:09:31 And it has one of the most annoying. It's puppet. It's puppet. Jerry Anderson. Supermarionation. Supermarionation. Thank you. And it has one of the most annoying theme songs, where it's literally a guy just a British guy going supercar. Well, we're going to enjoy it right now. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Because it's not like anything I've ever seen before. I'm going to make you listen to an ad and then I'm going to say skip the ad. Who doesn't skip the ad? Some people just say, oh, I finally went and got YouTube premium. I couldn't stand by and watch those ads anymore. Oh, I didn't know there was such a looking up supercar and such. I got to get to it. Get right to that theme.
Starting point is 00:10:06 I'm here. We go play this through to the first moments of the episode, too, because it's it's something. Here we go. Supercar is not, in fact, a car. And I'm looking at grace. As good as can be. Watch it flying through the air. Supercar is not in fact a car on land, forlose the skies, through the heavens stormy rage. It's Mercury Man, and everyone cries. It's the marvel of the age. Supercar, supercar, supercar! Wow.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Just like the very first moments of this episode here. That guy had, you've got a minute to write the theme. Yeah. Hello Jimmy. Let us start looking around. Oh, what's wrong with Jimmy? We'll be back there in about 20 minutes. Gee, I sure do love flying.
Starting point is 00:11:12 I'm sorry, what? That's what I wanted to show you. Oh my God. It's a man and a boy and the gorillas flying together in a little airplane. Yeah, we'll just have a monkey loose in the cockpit. That'll be fine. I wouldn't worry about a loose primate. No.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Yeah. And even though this is black and white, that's an orange monkey somehow. It is absolutely. Somehow you can tell. You can tell. Yes, it absolutely is. You're right. You can totally tell.
Starting point is 00:11:42 I don't know why. Yeah. But anyway. And then you cut it before the scene where the monkey breaks the kid's jaw and rips his genitals off to to to establish dominance. But the plane just goes down. Yeah. People can watch that on their own time. Did he survive the crash? No, his face and genitals are gone from the plane crash for sure.
Starting point is 00:12:02 The monkey's fine. And not as hungry as we might have expected. Well, it's celebrity birthdays. We do sometimes struggle to find a true celebrity who was born on the day this episode aired, but this time Arnoldur Indratisun, the Icelandic writer of Whodunnits featuring Detective Erlander. This fella is a two-time recipient of the Glass Key Award for Best Nordic Crime Novel. So that's a real celebrity. Yeah, and that's a very specific category. Yeah, best Nordic crime novel. Is an American ever one that'll work? Because that'd be a scandal.
Starting point is 00:12:40 If you have some carpet-bagging American moves over to Reykjavik and poops out a novel and wins. Oh, it doesn't even move. He just sets it there. Yeah. Oh, that would be even worse. He's living in Tuscan California. You're right. That would be even worse. Yeah. And it's still better than the ones that was written locally. That's a challenge. I'm going to take it up.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Yeah. Why not? Yeah, shit on you, Morroway. Glass Key Award, I'm coming for you. All right. Robert Altman directed this one. I did look in a little bit to hear something you can't find anywhere within like 30 minutes of Googling what, anything that Robert Altman ever said about the experience of working on Bonanza. Really? He never seemed to give him a quote to anybody.
Starting point is 00:13:19 However, David Doortort, who produced Bonanza said, in some respects, he was my best director, a giant among Pygmies. That's not a nice thing to say. Wait a minute. He could have just said a giant among men. Yeah, exactly. And that's just saying, give it a compliment to Altman. But instead, he's complimenting Altman and really just shitting on the rest of it.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Exactly. And I'm sure many of those directors were very much still alive. And I could read that. Would direct future episodes of the Hands Up, not with full confidence. And probably, yeah, exactly, and probably he's talking about people that had done like 30 episodes for him under terrible conditions. He's like, these guys are shit.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Yeah. Hey, I noticed something real quick that I've never noticed before. Okay. And let's correct me if I'm wrong. When they are giving you the title cards of each actor, it is neither alphabetical nor in terms of star power. It goes Dan Blocker, Michael Landon, Lauren Green, Purnell Roberts. Well, I'm going to blow your mind. What? They go in a different order every episode.
Starting point is 00:14:23 What? They mix it up. That was some sort of a contractual thing between the four of them. Or it's a way to get people to tune in. Like what are they gonna do with this week? Are they gonna mix it up? I've never seen Blocker follow Joe directly like that. Do they randomize it or is it? I guess it's randomized.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Wow, that's a kind of fun drinking game. Oh yeah. We should start that up for each at the end of every episode. We predict who's going to open the next episode. OK, good. Yeah, we've got a new regular. I like that. That's brilliant. Yeah. What will be the now? How did they do it?
Starting point is 00:14:55 Was it just they put names in a bag and drove out randomly every time or? I bet you I'm afraid it might have been something more sinister where you had to like if you watched David Dorotort's car, you know, you're number one. You know, something like that. Yeah. He got, David Dorotort got four very big turkeys each Thanksgiving. I'm just going to leave it at that. Which one's the biggie?
Starting point is 00:15:22 Yeah, some like that. I did find some quotes from Robert Altman about Westerns. Oh. He says, Westerns are usually oversimplistic, often racist and incredibly xenophobic. They're not very thoughtful. Robert Altman said that about Westerns. Perfect guy to have direct bonanza. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:41 He also simply said, I don't like Westerns. I don't like the obvious lack of truth in them. So that's ridiculous. He made two Westerns. Yeah. Because Benance did McCabe, Mrs. Miller and Buffalo Bill and the Indians. Yeah, Buffalo Bill and the Indians.
Starting point is 00:15:55 I've seen that one, too. Although that's also kind of an anti-Western. I think maybe, yeah. He was trying to take the piss out of the genre. That's what he's doing. He's making fun of America. He really is. Cowboys use it to send a piss out of the genre. That's what he's doing. He's making fun of America. He really is. He's using it to send a message.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Exactly. Or some shit like that. Yeah. Yep. But, uh, all right. That's what I found out about that guy. Oh boy. Now here's something interesting too.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Ready for this? Oh, here we go. Now I know you found some trivia too. I want to hear. Yes, I do. So I do know that the, uh, JR Huggins, the bank manager, played by a fellow named Owen Bush. That's right.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Now, uh, Altman and Owen Bush met in Kansas City, Missouri. Do you know about this? Robert Altman used to make industrial films in Kansas City, Missouri. He used to put Owen Bush in his industrial films. And then he made his first movie, The Delinquents in Kansas City, and put Owen Bush in it. And then when Owen Bush was making a TV show or rather alt man was about, it was called Troubleshooters, an adventure series about a construction team that takes on difficult jobs around the world.
Starting point is 00:16:51 How did that not go and go for 14 years? Oh my gosh. You got to see him go and brace that bridge. It's going to be amazing this week. This is like boring A-team. And I want to, I'm dying to see it. Yeah. I think they made 30 of them and Owen Bush?
Starting point is 00:17:05 There's no way we're going to get this irrigation ditch dug in time. You know what? That's exactly the kind of challenge we like here. Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun construction problem anywhere in the world. This is a true two by four instead of the modern three and a half by two and one quarter. What are we going to do? Give me my Jack Plane. I'm a troubleshooter. My God. Jack Plane. Wow. So he was in a bunch of those. Yeah. And so Owen Bush stayed out after that show was canceled and old Robert Altman put him in all the, all kinds of TV shows that he directed. Wow. But never one of his movies. I was about to say I
Starting point is 00:17:49 because Owen Bush has a very distinctive look. We call it a face for TV. Yes. And well yeah but well but Altman's films had a lot of especially like if Owen Bush would have totally fit into like Popeye as one of the background weirdos. Totally. That's true. Yeah. Oh boy, so would the Irishman from this episode. Oh, yikes.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Which feels like, and I know you talk about how, you know, Dalton is very much a monster hunter and argues, and not without merit, that Dan Blocker is clearly the offspring of a giant or a giant himself. And in this episode, the actor who plays Tim O'Brien is clearly a captured leprechaun. Yes. And the way they got him to stay still for camera is they've clearly gotten him drunk so that he can't he won't scamper away. He's so slow and hammered. Talk about the fact that there's an entire episode of called Haas and the Leprechauns
Starting point is 00:18:43 in this later season. I'm sorry, what? It's for real. Okay. It's called Haas and the Leprechauns. And weirdly enough, this actor is not in it. No. Very strange.
Starting point is 00:18:55 That's an insult. That's a blow if you're not brought back. Oh my Lord. I mean, there's even odds he was not living at the time. Yeah, that is true. I don't know if he was living at the time of this episode. He looks like the oldest living man. He's on the, yeah, he's on the cusp. I wanted to play the how old is he game with him.
Starting point is 00:19:10 As a matter of fact, I'm glad you said that. Oh, with that little fella? Yeah, I'm sorry if we're getting ahead of ourselves. No, let's do it, because I'm prepared to play the how old is he game with John J. Harrison and Dean Wolfe. Okay. But let's do Walter Burke as well. All right, well, how old do you think Walter Burke was?
Starting point is 00:19:26 Who played Tim O'Brien, the diminutive Irish drunkard. Okay, can I guess first? Because I'm going to have a weird theory about him. Okay. I think he was in his, I think he was 53, but the reason he looked the way he did was it was a hard 53. Like I think that guy lived a really rough life. I couldn't agree more.
Starting point is 00:19:47 And he was so aged. I couldn't agree more. In fact, I think I'm even gonna say he's 48 and had a harder life than that. Wow. Yeah. Well, this is unbelievable. I don't think this has ever happened before.
Starting point is 00:19:58 He was 53. You got it right on the number. Whoa! God! All done! But again, if you look at his face in this, that is a hard 53. That's a hard damn 53. He was drinking in kindergarten.
Starting point is 00:20:13 There's no way he wasn't. And smoking. He looks like he might have done some years as a jockey too. That's a hard look, brother. He really does. A lot of pebbles to the face. Yeah, yeah. Well, all right, Ian Wolfe,
Starting point is 00:20:28 who played the Mr. Potter of this episode, John J. Harrison. Oh, you're not kidding. He really was, yeah. Well, combination Mr. Potter and Daniel Plainview. Who's it now? From There Will Be Blood. He's literally doing a Daniel Plainview
Starting point is 00:20:42 in the first scene where he's like, why don't I own this? He's looking at the map and symbolically knocks over a glass of milk and he's not gonna drink your milkshake. He is so angry and he wants that land. God damn Paul Thomas Anderson ripping off Bonanza. I feel like he took this from that episode. I bet because there's a lot of links between Altman and Anderson and he's probably went back
Starting point is 00:21:04 and looked at his whole canon and said, I'm just gonna put a little of everything between Altman and Anderson and he's probably went back and looked at his whole cannon and said Oh, yeah, I'm just gonna put a little of everything Altman does in one of my movies I mean literally the first scene is this angry old man knocking over a glass of milk Yeah And then has to do the extra sweep with his cane to get the pool of milk off the map that he just spilled And they just went with it Yeah Well interestingly too that is the cold open of the show and it concludes on a trembling old man's hand over a map of
Starting point is 00:21:28 the Ponderosa that is covered in milk and which is the exact opposite of a burning map of the Ponderosa. Oh my goodness. And his hand is like a claw like I will own this. Yeah, it seemed like a 30 year old's hand with dark makeup on. Yeah, maybe. And by the way do It seemed like a 30 year old's hand with dark makeup on. Yeah, maybe. And by the way, do people give Harrison problems? Oh, no. What would it? What? I've got the quote somewhere. He says, I don't have problems. I give them.
Starting point is 00:21:55 There you go. What a thing for a man to say. I just want to say that this entire cold open and this version of version of Harrison is a hundred percent the stage that my daughter is in. Oh, really? Here's some milk. No. Boom. Yeah. And then she wants whatever's on the map. Yeah. Why don't I have this Polly pocket? Why don't I have this one? I don't have problems. I get them.
Starting point is 00:22:24 That's not a statement of a two year old. I don't know who it is. I don't take naps. get them. I get them. That's not a statement of a two-year-old, I don't know who it is. I don't take naps, I create the need for naps. Exactly. Well, how old do you think Ian Wolf was in this episode? Oh boy. I don't think he's that old only because he ended up being a character actor well into the 70s. So I'm going to say he was early 60s, but again, back then, people aged way quicker.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Life was just rough. I'd say early 60s as well. He looks, I think he's playing a man who's like a death's door, but he was 65. Oh! But you're right, he was working until, I think the last thing he did was Dick Tracy with Warren Beatty. What? Who'd he play in that? What? I didn't write down who he played.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Oh, wait a minute. I think he played either a flower shop guy or a bank teller. I wasn't expecting you guys to have this much knowledge of that film. Oh, I love Dick Tracy. Is that one to reconsider? I think it's great. He played his character name is Forger. F-O-R-G-E-R. Oh, OK. He's I know the scene you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:23:31 They're they're forging. OK. It's him and 88 Keys, Mandy Patinkin, and he's forging something for him. My friend Matt used the spelling of Glen Headley's name, who played Tess Trueheart in that for the name of their daughter. Oh yeah. Glen with two N's and an E. Oh two N's and an E. That's right. It's not named after her necessarily but they like the spelling.
Starting point is 00:23:53 They love that spelling. There you go. Well that's nice. Headley is also a good first name for it. Headley. Headley. Well let's see what else I can tell you here about John, Oh, John J. Harrison.
Starting point is 00:24:07 He was in THX 1138. You know that? Oh yeah. What? Yeah. He played the characters whose name was PTO. So I don't know what he did. Dockman Turner Overdrive?
Starting point is 00:24:19 That's what it was. He also gained his greatest fame at the age of 85, stealing scenes as Mama Carlson's dottering butler in several episodes of WKRP in Cincinnati. Oh my goodness. The dottering butler. The dottering butler. There you go. He did, he was in Zombies on Broadway. He was in a film called The Devil is a Sissy. He was in another completely unrelated film called The Devil Is Driving. Well, which one is it? I can't think of both.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Well, he was still, he was in the right lane, he wouldn't pass anybody, it was the same thing. Yeah, yeah, always do the posted speed limit no matter what. The Devil was so popular from The Devil Is a Sissy, but we wanna see him doing something else, like, all right, the devil's driving here. It was very easy to please audiences back then.
Starting point is 00:25:05 You didn't really have to wow him. I watched the devil do anything. The devil is a lot about her. The devil is buying envelopes. Ian Wolfe was also in a short film in 1942 called Famous Boners. There are two eras to all of humankind, and that is pre-boner meaning erection and post-boner meaning erection. I think you're right.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Yeah, that's the generational divide, right? Last thing I want to tell you, Ian Wolfe was in a movie called The Bandit of Sherwood Forest. Why not just name it Goddamn Robin Hood? Exactly. What the? Right. Terrible marketing. Is there another one?
Starting point is 00:25:43 What's your movie here? The Nemesis of the Sheriff of Nottingham? Wow, that's a, our marquee's not that wide. Is there any way we can just? The Solitary Ranger. Finch, the bank manager's assistant played by Dan Tobin. He worked a lot. He was in one of my favorite Twilight Zones where Dick York can hear people's thoughts. He was his boss.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Oh! It's a good one. Here I'm going to share with you some of the adjectives that describe his characters and his qualities in his bio on IMDB. Shifty, squinty, fussy, bumptious, supercilious, miserly, sinister, underhanded, camp, smugly, conceited, or obsequious. Wow. I would say in this episode, he definitely leans toward camp. And I'm going to just leave it at that.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Right. I'm just going to leave it at that, and I'm going to leave it at that. Yeah. Yeah. So much so these two reminded me of, if you know, Diamonds Are Forever, Mr. Wint and Mr. Kidd. I wanted, and they called each other by their last names. Yes, I know. Mr. So-and-So, and yeah, it really was.
Starting point is 00:26:47 There was a real Wint and Kidd energy coming off these two. They were quite a pair. Tim O'Brien was played by Walter Burke, and yeah, he's just, I don't want to, he played Sparrow on Batman, the 1966 Batman. What? Sparrow, I don't remember Sparrow. I don't know, he was in episodes with the penguin.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Does the adjective wizened show up in his IMDB bio? Cause, and, and, and, and craggy? His face is described as gnarled. Naughty? Naughty and gnarled expression. He was in support your local sheriff and support your local gunfighter. One is the sequel to the other, but he plays completely different characters in both. So that's interesting.
Starting point is 00:27:30 And this is, I believe, the first time I've ever seen Hello Larry pop up in some of his. Oh my lord. Was he in Hello Larry? He was in, not as a regular, just a guess. So he lived a while. He made it to the 80s. That's true. Damn.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Hello Larry, that's Maclean Stevenson? That was Macleans. That's true. Hello, Larry. That's McLean Stevenson. That was McLean Stevenson saying, kiss my ass, Mash. America wants a full half hour of McLean. Goodbye, Mash. Hello, Larry. What am I thinking of Tony Randall? Love, Sydney. Love, Sydney. Hello, Larry. Love, Sydney. Yeah, those are two great shows. All right. But the last thing before we get into the recap,
Starting point is 00:28:06 there was a feller in this episode, an actor by the name of Mickey Finn, and I thought, is that who they named the Mickey after? I don't think so. I think that feels like a little stage name that he kind of thought of. Maybe, because you don't, if it was named after him, what was he getting up to?
Starting point is 00:28:19 Exactly. Yeah, exactly. And also, they've been Mickey-finning people since the 1800s. I don't think that was him Okay, good. Although if he picked the stage name and the term Mickey Finn was very much in usage in the 60s So you're basically naming yourself after a rape or Shanghai procedure. This goes back to the boner paradox. Yeah, exactly Still fun to be called Mickey Finn? It used to be a cool thing to do, to drug somebody and steal their wallet.
Starting point is 00:28:49 And then it got filthy. Right about. And then the assholes discovered it and they ruined it. It was fun. Yeah. Yeah. And then the creeps found out about it. And they just same way that the same way that Limp Biscuit ruined grunge by making up new medals.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Like, no, you took this thing and ruined it. Yeah, that's what it was. Well, anyways. Oh, and the beautiful lady, by the way, who walks by in this episode. I looked her up. She's just an extra in 81 episodes of Bonanza, that woman. Can you believe it? Good Lord.
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Starting point is 00:30:13 Visit rbc.com slash Avion. All right, this episode begins in San Francisco in 1863 at the headquarters of the massive Harrison Corporation, which is into just about every kind of business. Oh my Lord, that sign outside, he's got his fingers in every pie. Every pie. Every one concern. And he's in a wheelchair and he is greedy and he does not like milk.
Starting point is 00:30:37 And he's got two lackeys, one of whom is very concerned about limiting his range of expression to keep his facial hair on. And his mascara. Oh wow. This, this, this is the devil is a sissy. He's a fancy fella. Yeah. And, uh,
Starting point is 00:30:53 devil's a silver Fox. He wants to get his hand, man, they, this is a scene they lay out their evil plan. Oh, just openly. Yeah. They don't know wasting any time. Speaking of headley, this reminds me of blazing saddles when they're just sitting there formulating the plan. Oh, just openly. Yeah. They don't know wasting any time. Speaking of Headley, this reminds me of Blazing Saddles when they're just sitting there formulating the plan. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:10 It had that feel and it also had that feel to this is just let's just give the viewers the plot. Yeah, hand it up to them. Yeah. So they don't get confused, which I still did at some point. I did too. Yeah. So okay, there is a fellow by the name of Tim O'Brien who owns a big piece of land and John J. Harrison wants to get his hands
Starting point is 00:31:29 on this piece of land, but O'Brien won't be reasonable and sell it to him. But O'Brien has all of his money, $100,000 in a bank owned by John J. Harrison. And John J. Harrison said, and this is all in the first thing, he says, we're going to announce that that particular bank branch is insolvent
Starting point is 00:31:46 and therefore we're going to seize all the assets of that bank, including all of Tim O'Brien's money. And he owes us money for equipment he bought and will demand payment immediately when he can't pay it, we take his land. Can you believe all that was in this one? And somehow they did it quicker than you just did. Exactly, yeah. I mean, you can hear the theme song start to play underneath him talking.
Starting point is 00:32:06 They're just like, let's go. Playing off a speech at the Academy Awards. Come on. They got it all in there somehow. Now we have the opening credits and then we're at the ranch house where Ben and Adam are off to Cedar Creek and for some reason we learned that Ben has a genuine kangaroo briefcase. Yes, that he kind of brags about. It ought to be, it's kangaroo.
Starting point is 00:32:27 I somehow missed this. Nice briefcase, Ed. It ought to be, it's kangaroo. All right. All right. That's like, all right. I don't know why we had to learn that. Yeah, some convict underneath the planet made this and I had it shipped here.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Yeah. I'd love to know why that line was in there, but he decides to leave little Joe in charge. Hoss and Joe are left back at the Ponderosa while the internet and takeoff and little Joe is in charge, which is the first time, right? First time. First time. Normally it's Hoss and Joe is literally wild-eyed with excitement. All the stuff he's going to do.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Yeah. And he's going to act with revenge upon Hoss for all the times that Haas was in charge. He makes him whitewash the smokehouse, which involves poor Haas getting a lot of paint on his face. Yeah. Yeah. It was practically like a white face performance. And, uh, and then they ride into Virginia city.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Joe is impulsively going to buy a bull for $1,000, but stops into the telegraph office first. Now we see the worst pair of fake sideburns we ever had on this show. Those are real bad. A fellow by the name of Frank is the telegraph man, and he is so excited about his rig. And the two of them get real close to one another, and they discuss this rig with almost a sexual tension. And then he says, Joe, you watch the telegraph machine and I'm going to go get an old lamp. These old lamps to put on his rig. Those two, okay, if you watch that scene, when they're talking about his rig, it is clearly supposed to be two teenagers talking about a car
Starting point is 00:34:03 that they're hot rodding and they all but put like 50s hot rod music underneath it while they're talking. Well, we've never really, I don't think seen that before. This episode, it's got like a 50s stroll number of this scene. Oh, it's good. Well, okay. That's what I wanted to point out. A lot of the electric guitar in this episode is played by a guy named Robert Bane, who was a member of the Wrecking Crew. Oh my God. Oh wow. And who played in a lot of... And played the opening notes. He did a lot of work with Henry Mancini and played the electric guitar on the Peter Gunn theme. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:34:35 That's the guy who did that. So that's why there's all these 50s strolling... It's a very 50s soundtrack. That's amazing. Which it never is on this show. No. It's a very 50s soundtrack. That's amazing. Which it never is on this show. No, no. Well, it's a weird combination of 50s and then again, Warner Brothers' loony tune sound effects. Well, so yeah, I mean, it'll be a little wild for, yeah, all right.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Yeah. We also learned that Joe has a past as a telegraph enthusiast. Oh, yes. And that's something we here to for did not know. Right. And it was conveniently sandwiched in to make sense of the plot of this episode. Well, because it explained him being able to sit there and receive, because what happens next?
Starting point is 00:35:12 OK, all right. We get some disturbing news. I'm sorry. He does. While Joe is looking after the Morse code telegraph machine, he receives the message that the Harrison bank in Virginia City is insolvent and is going out of business. And he decides he's not going to tell Frank, the telegraph man who should have received the
Starting point is 00:35:32 information, he's not going to bring this to the bank where it's supposed to be brought to. He instead is, now why, I don't know, but he figures, he feels that something's up. Joe's got a real God complex in this episode. He makes some real, significant decisions. Yeah. He thinks, seems to know it's a scam, right? And he goes and talks to his brother, Hawes, who's winning arm wrestles on a barrel and, and, and then they over here, drunk Tim O'Brien at the bucket of blood saloon for no goddamn reason telling everybody, I've got a hundred thousand dollars in the Harrison Bank across the street.
Starting point is 00:36:13 No, sorry. I've got a hundred thousand dollars in the Harrison Bank across the street. So now Joe's got all the information he needs to come up with to make a leap in logic that I never would have got to Are you finding out something from the what's happening? Do we want a little update on your face? We're very pale Well, no, I'm just seeing here there have been 25 Billboard instrumental number one singles including chariots of fire Oh cover of Star Wars Cantina theme by Meco and the theme from SWAT But those would all still be prior to Rocket, but maybe Rocket didn't chart. I could be wrong about that.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Oh, I think Rocket charted. He's right though that the SWAT theme was number one and that Mech-O Star Wars theme. What about that disco... Star Wars. That's the Spake Zarathustra. Oh, was that one. That would have been prior to.
Starting point is 00:37:04 That Elvis used to come on stage to. Oh yeah, yeah. Hmm. Mm-hmm. Well. Well, we'll have to find it. Oh, was that one that Elvis used to come on stage to? Oh yeah, yeah. Well, we'll have to find out. Tim. Thank you. Yep, thanks. Okay, so now Joe is going to go in.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Sorry, Miami Vice theme. Oh, Jan Hammer. 824, 1985. There we go. Nice work. By the way, that was Anamak. Thank you, Anamak. Thanks, Anamak.
Starting point is 00:37:28 By the way, their picture is of Hoss. That's the last time there was an instrumental on the charts. And may it be the last time for it. I like to hear some moves. Forever may it reign. Yeah. So okay, now we got Joe is gonna go to the bank. Why is Joe going to the bank?
Starting point is 00:37:44 I don't know, but Hoss is doing a lookout. And Joe goes- He's gonna, no, now we got Joe is going to go to the bank. Why is Joe going to the bank? I don't know, but Haas is doing work at Lookout and Joe- He's going to know, I'm sorry. Okay, yes, please. He's going to ask questions about what? Questions. What does he say? Like I'm going to do a little soft stepping or something like, remember he-
Starting point is 00:37:55 Pussy footin'. Pussy footin', yeah, I knew there was a reason. Pussy footin'. He stood out. I'm going to go over to the bank, do a little pussy footin'. Yeah, sure he is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Okay, so now he goes in there. Well, first they do tell Tim O'Brien, hey, take all your money out of the bank because something's going. They figured out. I don't know how they figured out what's going on, but they did. And but a little Tim O'Brien says, that's ridiculous. I would never do that. And then was it why would I why would I do that to a nice old man like Harrison?
Starting point is 00:38:24 Oh, remember that? Poor fool. He loves Harrison. Poor fool. Loves him. Now, Joe says to the bank fellas, Finch and the Huggins, he says- Mr. Winton, Mr. Kidd. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:35 He says, bring me all the money in the bank. I want to see it. Now, here's where things become unclear as to whether this is just the Cartwright's money or all the money in the bank. Yeah, that's a little weird. It is $160,000 seems to be the full amount of deposits at this branch of the bank. And we know that $100,000 of that is Tim O'Brien's. So the whole rest of the bank just has $160,000. Or it's just $60,000.
Starting point is 00:39:03 But $60,000. That's what I mean. I think. I think they're saying though that they never will have it all $60,000 in it. Or it's just $60,000. That's what I mean. I think? I think they're saying though that they never will have it all because as long as there's not a run on the bank, they never need to. That's why they fear the run on the bank. So they've got 60 in cash and 100 in bonds.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Is that correct? I believe so. I think so. My eyes glazed over at this point. Yes. I'm not good with money. Well, so Joe formulates a plan to take the bonds, not steal them, but he's going to take the bonds to another Harrison Bank and cash them and bring the cash back here for what
Starting point is 00:39:38 I forget. But it's trying to get around this insolvency thing. Exactly. Right? And so, but, and then somehow he also has to knock unconscious Huggins and Finch because maybe they don't want him to do it. I think that's right. The bank run is a plot device we don't see anymore, but seem to factor heavily into things
Starting point is 00:39:58 of the early 20th century. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Before them FDICs, insurances. Exactly. I bet then people could follow it a lot more because they were more up on it. And they were also genuinely fearful of it. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Yeah, it was a big thing. Well, so the upshot is that Joe and Haas have essentially stolen $100,000. They robbed a bank. They robbed a bank. And they tied up the bank managers. They did and knocked them out. Yeah. Yeah, which is assault.
Starting point is 00:40:22 Assault. Yeah, yeah. And I think they're riding Are they going to Placerville to to the next nearest? Yeah location to cash these bonds I believe so and the sheriff can't believe it but he takes a report and he commissions the most beautiful illustrations of these two boys Oh, it's a drawing of Haas I would make if I were Dan Blocker would have made that my headshot. That drawing was so good I think it's as good as almost every laser engraved headstone in Hollywood forever cemetery.
Starting point is 00:40:49 And that's saying something. Those are beautiful. Yeah, no kidding. Whoever is the artist in Virginia city who can be called upon to whip up a wanted sign like that. I know. Yeah, they're very talented. But, uh, uh, okay. But now Finch and Huggins come around and they come up with an evil plan. Mostly it's Finch, isn't it? Who they say now, okay, we're going to rob Haas and Joe of all those bonds and then take off to Brazil or something. They're going to leave the country or was it Sweden? Sweden. They were going to go somewhere.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Yeah, where was it? But in the middle, it was very telling that in the middle of that conversation, like we could run off and go to here or here, and then the other guy makes it a point to bring up his wife that he's married. Yes. Because the conversation is getting very like,
Starting point is 00:41:36 we could just go live and swichle in together. The life we've always dreamed of you now. Oh yeah. But I can't leave my beard, I'll have to shave my beard. Yeah. Of course. But then I wouldn't leave my beard. I'll have to shave my beard, of course. But then I wouldn't be able to have sex with my female wife. Procreate, as God intended, the loving carnal embrace of my good female lady wife.
Starting point is 00:41:57 Yes, it's good that he made that clear. That was a network note. Oh yeah. Well okay, now the sheriff sends out a telegraph to everybody saying be on the lookout for these thieves, the Cartwright boys. And then we see Haas just chopping down a telegraph line so that the message won't get through. They have gone lawless.
Starting point is 00:42:20 I mean, they've gone full QAnon orAnon or like a Guy Fawkes or something. Very Guy Fawkes. He's literally vandalizing the countryside, which I guess back then it was easier to take down a communications network. Right. One poll. Yeah. Cut down one poll and nobody can say anything to anybody.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Well now Ben and Adam come back to Virginia city. They see the wanted poster. They can't believe it. They go in to have a confrontation with the sheriff, during which time Ben pounds his fist on the sheriff's disc and hurts his hand. This becomes a running joke. And the way they filmed this scene, it felt like the way they filmed it, he hits, it's not clear that that's where he hurts his hand. It feels like his hand is already hurt and he forgot. And when he pounded, he's like, oh! But no, that's where he hurts his hand.
Starting point is 00:43:10 I don't know, you may be right. I'm not sure. It was very weird. But anyway, yeah, this is where we get into the sound effects. Oh, yes. Good Lord. Okay, where do you think, because I know there was a sound effect at the end of that scene where Ben is now going to grab hold of the doorknob.
Starting point is 00:43:25 There's also a sound effect when Haas sees the lovely lady walking and he keeps having those boom boom thoughts, remember? Well, that's weird too because when he's guarding outside of the bank, the music sting is the first two notes of the dragnet theme and then they change it. Oh, how strange. I knew I recognized it. It was this, you know, ba-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da- number when he comes in and same too with the pretty lady. I believe the same music plays when she comes through. I think those are called light motif.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Oh, is it a light motif? And then there's a misdirect that it's going to be her, but it's not. And part of what sells that misdirect is the same music. Yep. But when she turns, what do they play? Oh, what do they play? The sound of a horse. Literally.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Oh, like a muted trumpet. She's not pretty and it's like, wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha Oh God, how do you pitch that? I know, does she appear in the script as ugly woman? I got, I hope not. Yeah, I hope not too. It's the 1950s, she surely did. I would have been kind. Excuse me, may I turn? He's like, and his face literally is like, oh, I must have been somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Like he's choking back vomit. She is hideous, I'll give you that. But, oh, this is where we learned that his head itches whenever somebody's following him. Yeah. Something else we never learned about Haas is that he could be beat up and it only took a wiry old man to do it. I know I'm getting ahead of you.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Yeah. We'll get to that. I've never seen him lose a fight. It's ridiculous. I know it's ridiculous. Yeah. Well, okay. Now let's see. They're riding, I guess we'll just. At this point, by the way, the plot starts getting so needlessly complicated
Starting point is 00:45:33 because they got to fill out the time, but it is just, it is all reversals and double crosses and that always happens around here. Now Ben says to the sheriff, don't send a posse after my boys. I'll go and I'll bring them back myself. So that's one thing that's going on. So we got basically, we got a Hoss and Joe have cashed in the bonds for two classic old burlap sacks full of cash. That's right.
Starting point is 00:45:58 And they're riding back to Virginia city. We got Finch and Huggins and they've got a kind of a bass crawl theme song. They have a, that's right of a bass crawl theme song. That's right. They have a theme song too. Yep. They're riding out to try and meet them and rob them. And then we got Ben and Adam, who are also riding out to meet them. Man, they can track. There, this is how good they are at tracking. Adam happens to know that Joe's horse's shoe has a little break in it. And so they know exactly where Joe's going because no other horseshoe looks like that in the whole territory. So they're able to track
Starting point is 00:46:30 them to precisely where they're going. And then who mates up first? It's Huggins and Finch. Oh, this is where, all right, Hoss and Joe are camping out at night. Huggins and Finch come around a tree to the sound of bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum. What the heck? I don't know what worries me more is that they in stealth take the bag from Joe, get away, and then still choose to reveal themselves to them. They could have just kept walking.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Did you notice that? Oh, that's true. Oh yeah, that was weird. They grab the bag and they're not in sight. They could have just kept walking. Did you notice that? Oh, that's true. Oh yeah, that was weird. They grabbed the bag and they're not in sight and they could have just left. We want them to know. Very much as they had to monologue like a Bond villain. Tell them it was us.
Starting point is 00:47:13 Yeah. Tell them it was us. Upshot is, Hoss and Joe are walking back to Virginia City with their saddles on their backs and no money to show for it and that's when Ben and Adam find them. Oh boy. And then we have a classic time dash past the explanation of everything that's happened so far. Yep.
Starting point is 00:47:30 When I'm thinking to myself, I wouldn't mind hearing it. Catch me up too, please. What you chose to speed through and what you've chosen to show. Yeah. And then there's a moment where to prove what they've said is true, Joe is going to show them the telegraph that he received, but he can't find find it and there's some real comedy trumpets on that. Oh boy Searches through his pockets by the way the
Starting point is 00:47:58 May I just say all of the paper the documents the letters in this are, is either mic'd or just folied into the stratosphere because it is the loudest crinkly ass paper I've ever heard in the 60s and 70s. 70s especially, it's the same sound as like clothing in the 70s makes on TV shows where it is so mic'd. Columbo's jacket, he's insisted on wearing his own jacket. Yeah. To the much like dismay of the sound man who hated it.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Mm-hmm. Because he chose a very loud jacket. Oh boy. Well, there's loud paper in this episode. Yeah. Well, that was, I believe, one of the hallmarks of Robert Altman's style, that he would microphone the paper. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:40 More natural. Loud paper. Yeah. And let it overlap with the dialogue. Yes, exactly. Well, so now Paul says you guys are going to go back and you're going to stand trial for bank robbery and I will pay back everything you stole, including if it has to mean I sell the timber rights to the Ponderosa,
Starting point is 00:48:58 whatever it has to be, because he doesn't believe them that these two bank managers took the money from them. I don't know what he thinks did happen, but he doesn't believe them. And they said, that'll bankrupt you. He goes, I came into this valley without a penny and I, if I, I can build it up again, like something like I could wipe it all out and build it. Yeah, he absolutely could. Not with that broken hand.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Oh, that, wait a minute. I'm sorry. Say not with that broken hand again. Not with that broken hand. You're right. Not with those broken hand again. Not with that broken hand. You're right. Not with those trumpet stings. He can't. A lot of those are going to follow him everywhere he goes.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Well, back in Virginia city, now there's a bank run. Oh boy. Oh boy. This is the most extras I think they've ever piled into us. Oh yeah. That's a bunch. There's a lot of people there and they're all clamoring for their money back from the bank, but Ben says, don't worry, this is all being sorted out and I will make all of you whole
Starting point is 00:49:50 from my own personal finances, he says. Isn't that right? Something like that. And then the leader of the gang says, okay, well, Ben's word is good enough for me and I'll buy everybody drinks at the saloon. And I'm thinking, that's gotta be a fortune. Yeah. Yeah. And you're worried about money? I don't think, he maybe misunderstood. He thought Ben said, and I'll cover your bar tab. Oh, right, right. Yeah, that's the.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Don't worry. But Ben. Oh, by the way, cult film fans with the eagle eye will spot the fabulous Bruno Vissota in this scene as Madigan. Bruno was a rotund. He kind of looked like Orson Welles. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:28 He's in a lot of weird movies in the 60s and 70s, dementia and also a lot of TV spots, but he's a very recognizable guy. He's just literally in the crowd like, what about my money? They're like, calm down, Madigan. And the fact that they like gave him a name in the middle of this giant wallop was like, okay, good, he got his name in there. He has a good face. What's his name?
Starting point is 00:50:51 Bruno Sissetti? Bruno Visota. Visota. Or Visoto. Yeah. He looks a little bit. He's the last listed in this episode. Doesn't he sort of look a little bit like
Starting point is 00:51:01 the guy on the Monopoly board? Yeah, he does look like Orson like worse than war like the brain eaters He looks like a tiny yeah, and it's all like weird 60s exploitation movies, but boy did he make a lot female jungle female jungle I think he was in Daddy Oh Yeah, he's in everything but he's in this one. He's in this one down Madigan Fast and the Furious, 1955. There you go. I didn't know that franchise was that old. That's amazing. Is that a remake? The original? I'm not even joking because it's a car movie.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Well, I would imagine. Wow. Yeah. There's a funny little moment here where Roy at the jailhouse is playing checkers with a prisoner Yeah, I like that and they tell when he comes in they they tell Cartwright like wait a second cuz they got it. They got to do that move. Oh a checkers move Yeah They're focused on the game and then when sheriff is called away from the checkerboard the prisoner reaches over and Underhandedly steals some of his pieces. Just like a prisoner.
Starting point is 00:52:05 It's a funny little... Did you notice that? Wow. And that's a purely directorial touch, by the way. That ain't in the script. No. No. Altman says, let's have a little fun with this.
Starting point is 00:52:14 Let's do a fun take. Yeah. And then they kept it. And then they kept it, but it didn't have any trumpets on it. That would have really called it a chance. That was a time for a freaking trumpet. Yeah. Do you think, I mean it's television,
Starting point is 00:52:26 so how much control does the director have? Did the show itself put that music on after Altman's work was done? I don't think Altman had any say in any of that. I think that was all done after the fact. But he did make it very obviously heightened comedically in a way that a Bonanza episode has never been before.
Starting point is 00:52:42 So I'm so confused by this. It does have a, wow, it does have a, it has almost a wacky Mel Brooks quality to some of the characterization. I'm telling you, and it is, sometimes we say like a Bonanza episode is 15 minutes of story stuffed into 49 minutes of screen time, but this one feels closer to like 49, 49, just about.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Maybe even more. You may actually wrote a story, yeah. It's fast paced, a lot of things happen in this episode. But no guns are fired. That's weird. But again, the two bankers draw guns on Joe and Haas. Right. But I think that's it.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Yeah, that's about it. Well now, okay, I don't know, things get confusing. Yeah, exactly. Ben is cobbling together the money to make everybody whole. Oh, this is one of those times where things get wrapped up real nice in a hurry. Because Joe and Hoss ride up on their own houses with all the cash.
Starting point is 00:53:35 It turns out they, off screen, caught up with Huggins and Finch and tossed them in the Truckee River. So this is all just off screen. And we did this through them in a river. Yeah. It's very Shakespearean. Well, we just invaded Gaul and 50,000 Mendite anyway. But part of what enabled them to do that was that they came upon a couple of mules that was owned by a sleeping man and they stole the mules.
Starting point is 00:54:00 This is the guy that beats up Haas. This is the guy. Yeah. And so Ben is a little bit like, well now you're still thieves, you return all this money, but what about them mules? We gotta do the Cartwright name,
Starting point is 00:54:13 it's gotta be solid. Yep, he says you're gonna go back to that mule owner and you're gonna pay him for the rental of his mules. And I thought that might've been trumpets and credits. But no, we see the scene. This we had time for, none of the Truckee River stuff. But they go back to this mule fella, and this guy has a big scene,
Starting point is 00:54:33 but I guess they didn't wanna give him the dialogue bump. He doesn't say a word, he just... He's walking away with his mules, and then they do, as the mules cross the scene, it's revealed that Hoss and little Joe have been severely beaten. Michael Landon has an appliance on his face where his jaw, like his cheekbone looks like it was broken. It looks like when Jason Voorhees loses his mask. Yeah, he does not look good. Like, did they bring in like Dick Smith to do that? Because it was intense.
Starting point is 00:55:05 They brought him money to pay him for the rent of his mules. He didn't say a word to them, but he didn't like their offer. And then he just beat the shit out of Little Joe and Hoss Cartwright at once. And then doesn't Hoss or Little Joe go, wiry little guy or something like that? They made a point saying that you can't beat up Haas. You can't beat him, he's never lost.
Starting point is 00:55:28 But not in this one, he got beaten up. And the guy that beats him up, imagine, I don't know who the actor is, but imagine an unhealthy Harry Dean Stanton. That is how just gnarled and bent over and just chinless this guy looks. Harry Dean Stanton starts it unhealthy. Harry Dean Stanley starts it unhealthy. Yeah, he starts it unhealthy.
Starting point is 00:55:46 So you're really saying something. So this is, we've gone down the scale. Yeah, yeah. But somehow he beat the shit out of Haas. Oh my Lord. There is also, I think I might've skipped it a moment when John J. Harrison comes into the bank with his two lackeys.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Oh, that's a great scene. He's made a trip all the way to Virginia City to find out what happened with his evil plan. What happened to my evil plan? Basically, why is it even if it goes, why isn't this bank closed? Yeah. Like he announces his plan. Why didn't this horrible thing happen that I said to happen?
Starting point is 00:56:16 Yeah. But, uh, Ben, Ben threatens to have him investigated, which is a very gentlemanly threat on this show. Yep. Uh, and that's it. Everything gets nicely wrapped up and all well and good. You say Altman's not responsible for the Wecky music in this episode. I feel like he's not. But then again, I've also, if you watched the movie Popeye, maybe he was.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Oh, uh-huh. Yeah. I have a question. All right. In the closing, because I haven't watched every episode yet. Of Bonanza? Of Bonanza. I sent them all to you. Oh, I know.
Starting point is 00:56:46 I'm catching up right now. It's on the altman's. Okay. But if you notice in the closing credits, so they say written by, and there's a drawing of a guy like sitting with a book at a table and then it's like produced by, and then who's that producer? David Doerr-Torch. Standing over the town like, whoa.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Like did they do that in the credits? They have little drawings that like symbolize what the job that the person is doing is doing or is this the first time they did that? It reminds me of the opening credits of Cheers where you get kind of an analog to who the people are. You see the characters. I don't know. It was really interesting.
Starting point is 00:57:19 It was like, this guy did the writing. This guy is the producer overall. I do think that image does always accompany the writer. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Who, by the way, Altman worked with him on a show called Whirlybirds, which was about a helicopter chartering company. Altman directed 22 episodes of that. Like a military helicopter.
Starting point is 00:57:40 No, no, exactly. Just a civic charting helicopter. Hey, I just want to cover the world of subcontractors, people that are doing construction jobs like mercenaries. No, just building infrastructure. And the mercenaries to where they're going by way of a charter helicopter. My new show called The Inspector. That sounds exciting. Well, he's a meat and dairy inspector in the factories
Starting point is 00:58:02 of Wisconsin. So, yeah, but he'll go anywhere in the world. This is this is a show called Road Blazers. Oh, like moonshiners? No, they're hauling goods. You know, that we open each episode where they fill out the the shipping sheet and they make sure that they fulfill their. You never know about the guy that processes the shipping. You remember there was a real short life show.
Starting point is 00:58:24 I think it was on CBS called Lottery, and it was just two guys going around notifying people they won the lottery, but they always got in hijinks, and it was kind of like Simon and Simon, but it had the Hulk feel where they'd be in a new town every time. Oh, it sounds a little familiar.
Starting point is 00:58:39 It was in the early 80s, yeah. Okay. Wow. Yeah, yeah. These were a hell of a time. This show came about because there was a plot on I Love Lucy where somehow she had to take a helicopter and the network executives were looking at this helicopter going, that's a show. Is that right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:56 Again, back then people were so excited by any new invention. I know. I'm amazed there wasn't like a show about like a three hole punch. Like a guy that would punch holes in documents. Whoa! Hang on. We got a sack of 50. I don't think we can do it one punch.
Starting point is 00:59:11 You know what? Challenge accepted. That's a show. It's a renegade former Navy hole puncher who is in private business now punching holes. But yeah, anyway, Altman directed 22 Whirlybirds and this writer wrote one of them and I'll bet you he said, I got bring in NB Stone. He did a hell of a job on Whirlybirds. Yeah, I realize.
Starting point is 00:59:34 So this is the second of eight Altman. I believe that's correct. And then when did he does he show up again this season or are we going to see him further down the line? Oh, that's a good question. That's the next time I come back. Oh boy, I'm so excited. That's wonderful.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Let's see, well, it is worth taking our time to find that out because I'd like to. Just a little teaser, what's coming? All right, it might take me a moment. While I'm doing that, I will tell you the sad news. Oh God. We only have 380 episodes of this show left to talk about. Oh man.
Starting point is 01:00:04 And six Altman episodes, is that right? And only show left to talk about. And six Altman episodes? And only six left after this one. I'm gonna find a way to stretch this out then, guys. Do some special side episodes. Do in the minute format like Star Wars minute where every episode we just discuss a minute. Yeah. I haven't heard of that.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Bananas for 10 minute increments of Bonanza would be a great title for a podcast. I have some suggestions. As a man who spends a lot of time on the IMDB website, some suggestions for ways to improve it. Okay. Quite a few. Well, it's not like they haven't updated the site
Starting point is 01:00:35 in a good 15 years. Yeah, that's true, yeah. Yeah, well, I'm still looking for the one little piece of information I wanted to tell. Okay, here we go. Bonanza, click on see more. Yeah. Click on Seymour. It'll be six episodes from now. Oh, Lord. The Duke.
Starting point is 01:00:51 I'm coming back soon. The Duke. Yeah. So that's 18 weeks from now. All right. That's true. We take a while. I'll see you in 2024. Fantastic. Marvellous. We love having you. We do. We do.
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