Bookwild - Books That Deserve More Hype

Episode Date: January 12, 2023

This week, we talk about books we love that deserve more hype!Follow us on Instagram:Gare @gareindeedreadsKate @thegirlwiththecookonthecouchBooks We Talked AboutThe Other MePlease See Us#fashionvictimEverything You Want Me to BeThe Book of EssieThe Final Girl Support GroupWhat You Don’t KnowTV Shows We Talked AboutThe Righteous GemstonesMovies We Talked AboutVantage Point Get Bookwild MerchCheck Out My Stories Are My Religion SubstackCheck Out Author Social Media PackagesCheck out the Bookwild Community on PatreonCheck out the Imposter Hour Podcast with Liz and GregFollow @imbookwild on InstagramOther Co-hosts On Instagram:Gare Billings @gareindeedreadsSteph Lauer @books.in.badgerlandHalley Sutton @halleysutton25Brian Watson @readingwithbrian 

Hey guys, welcome to the Killing the Tea podcast. This is Gare and Kate. And we are going to be discussing all things, chills, thrills and kills. Kate and I are going to be talking about our favorite books, TV shows and movies that are in the thriller or crime fiction genre, as well as some reading habits and other items related to how we met on Bookstagram that will fit in with this podcast. So, Thank you so much for joining us, and we hope that you have fun and get totally terrified. So my next one is The Other Me by Sarah Zachrich Jang. It came out in 2021, and it is a time travel thriller where basically Kelly is a free spirit. Why can't I speak tonight?

because we're so pumped to be here. We're just so excited to be here. It sounds like there's thunder outside, but I know there's not thunder. Maybe that's what's getting to me. It's either thunder or it's the, I don't know what is going on, but I feel like every car that has driven by my house since we started recording has their fucking muffler dragging on the road. That's what I think was just basically happening. Yeah. I'm like, come on, guys.

Chill out. Podcasting. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Shout out, you wild kids. I'm like, we have stalkers. I'm like, shut up. That's funny.

You have a Tyler. Oh, yeah. He's got his AirPods on. He probably doesn't hear anything. Okay. I'm going to talk about this book. Yeah, tell me about it. I'm going to figure it out.

So. We all about it. One minute. Kelly's a free-spirited artist in Chicago. going to her best friend's art show. The next, she opens a door and mysteriously emerges in her Michigan hometown. Suddenly, her life is unrecognizable. She's got 12 years of the wrong memories in her head, and she's married to Eric, a man she barely knew in high school. Racing to get back to her old life, Kelly's search leads only to more questions. In this life, she loves Eric and wants to

trust him, but everything she discovers about him, including a connection to a mysterious tech startup, tells her she shouldn't. Strange things keep happening. The tattoos she had when she was an artist briefly reappear on her skin. She remembers fights with Eric that he says never happened. And her relationships with loved ones both new and familiar seem to change without warning. The closer Kelly gets to putting the pieces together, the more her reality seems to shift. And if she can't figure out what happened on her birthday, the next change could cost her everything. that cover is beautiful too by the way I love that cover and

it doesn't give anything a way to say it's one of those really cool covers where you get to the end and the cover means a lot. Makes sense. Yeah, okay. I like that. And I was like, whoa. Would you say it's good for like a beginner who's not used to having

sci-fi time travel? I would say, I would say this is a lot more like a domestic psychological suspense. And there just happened, she just happens to be in a different timeline. It doesn't like go into like any science behind it. She's just trying to get back. So yes, I would. Yeah, I might have to check it out then.

Mm-hmm. Actually, Ashley Winstead posted about it earlier this year. Um, and her review talked about how it was also, a really cool exploration of what it means to be an artist or to create things. And there is that kind of aspect to it too. So very, if you like, if you like artists in your thrillers, there's that. The other me. Love it.

I'm going to have to check it out. Anything that you recommend and also Ashley Winston recommends, like obviously. Yeah, she gave it like a five star. I did too. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But I mean, well, I mean, she's, yeah, obviously, like, we love her. But I just think with you, like, you know me very well. So like, you're not going to tell me to pick up dark matter anytime soon because you know that like I need to like work my way up to like getting to that point. You know, so. That is like time travel advanced. And this is like time travel is like a novelty thing. Yeah, yeah. Is the way I would describe. it. I love it. I love it. And it sounds incredible. It's really good. Yeah. It's fun. It's on my wish list now. Yeah. Tell me when you read it. I will because we are doing an incredible job of

segwaying into one another's recommendations in a very creepy, creepy way. Um, my next one has a very tiny, I don't know if you would say paranormal aspect to it. But it also, when you read it, the cover means more to you after you read the book. Oh my gosh. That is so trippy. Please see us by Caitlin Mullen is one of the best books I have ever read in my entire life. if my house caught on fire, it would be one of the books I was grabbing off my bookshelf

to throw out on my front lawn to save. Like the amount, I think I've read this book three or four times. I want to read it again just talking about it. It is one of my favorite stories in the entire world. It is like, I know it takes place in the summertime, but you just picture it being in like rain the entire time and just this like, subtly gritty. But anyway, it's about two women who form an unlikely friendship during the

summer in Atlantic City because people are, well, women are disappearing. Two Jane Does lie in the marshland behind the sunset motel just west of town. And the only person that knows they are there, is the person that is responsible for their deaths. Clara is a young boardwalk psychic who struggles to attract clients for tarot readings that pay her rent. And she begins to experience really disturbing visions that suspects they could be related to the recent cases of women who have gone missing in Atlantic City. So she ends up meeting Lily, who is an ex-Souho art gallery. girl who is basically like working at the spa in the casino and everybody's kind of like what are you doing here like how do you go from like art gallery job in soho to like working in a spa in Atlantic

City so there's a little bit of a mysterious aspect to the story regarding that like why she's there and what she's kind of running from so she's kind of like facing her own demons but also joining forces with Clara to like figure out what's going on. And basically you have that question on are they going to find out what happens or could one of them possibly be the next girl to go missing? Yeah. So many of the books that you talk about about like being your most favorite emotional ones. I don't know why I haven't read them yet.

But go on. This one, she's, you know, she's clairvoyant. So there's like a little bit of that in the story, which when I was reading it, I was like, it was like I was reading about somebody having a banana for breakfast. Like it just like didn't feel like it was paranormal or outside of like anything, you know, just the way it's written because it's not like she's, you know, it's not like she's, you know, it's not like she's banking on it to be this, like, big thing. It's just so natural to this character that, like, it feels natural to you when you're

reading it. Yeah. The thing that I love when it, when that's, like, how they leave something into a story. Yeah. Yeah. Like, it feels less like a schick. Yeah. It's not anything close to Simone St. James, but she kind of does that in the same style

where, like, any paranormal aspect is just as much as a surprise. to the character as it is to you as a reader. So, like, you don't feel like, you know, but like with this, it's like, okay, like, you know, I have this guy and he, like, wants, you know, to spend 20 bucks to tell me if he's going to, like, marry this woman. So I'll just give him whatever answer, I think. But then, like, all of a sudden she's, like, wait a second. Like, I'm seeing really, like, violent, disturbing things.

And they're just, like, coming out of nowhere. It definitely deals with the, um, the issue. that we deal with regarding missing women who are not prioritized, you know, the way that other women have been prioritized. The thing that I love about this story, though, is, well, there's other things that I can discuss with you if you read it. But one of the things that I love about this story is that there are interwoven chapters between Lily's. POV and Claire's point of V of the Jane Does. So these women that are like lying in the marsh behind this like run down hotel.

Yeah. They, you get like a look at their lives and who they were as, it's not just like, oh, this is like, you know, Sarah, she was 22 and she was like whatever. It's like you get an actual feel like they're like from their point of view as to who they are as people. Yeah. So it's just very haunting and creepy and gritty. And it's just one of the most effective books I've ever read in my entire life. And I loved it. It sounds like notes on an execution meets the change.

Yes. Yeah. It's not as, I would say it's like leaning more. toward notes on an execution. I would say notes on an execution actually meets Ashley Winstead. Like, if you like Ashley Winstead's writing, Caitlin Mullen is somebody that you will, like, lie through because she just has this very beautiful way of telling a very horrifying story. Mm-hmm.

That's a good comparison, then. she I just like pretty much tell her very often how I like because I post about it because I read it like multiple times. I did like a fan poster for it. I've done like multiple castings. And she's always just like, oh my God, like thank you so much for being supportive. And I'm like, this is one of the best books that I have ever read in my entire life that I will never shut up about. Yep. And yeah, I think it would also be a very good buddy read for. anyone listening, like, if you have, like, a friend that you want to read this book with, like, it's very, I think there's, like, a lot of things in it should discuss, basically. Yeah. And if you read it, I'll read it with you. I wonder if we should start doing some of the ones that are, like, your favorites or our favorites as the, like, uh, like planned reads each month.

Because then everyone else could read it too. Mm-hmm. we can go back and forth. Yeah. We'll figure it out. Well, I have another one. Yeah. And we've talked about it, but I don't think I've talked about it on the podcast.

It's hashtag fashion victim by Amina Oktar. Because I can't stop talking about Amina Oktar. Like, I swear she's like, cool. She's probably like Caitlin Mullen, like, cool, you're talking about my books again. I mean, she's also really freaking cool and she's really nice. And Caitlin Malin is really freaking cool and really friggin' nice. That's awesome. Props to those women for being geniuses and kind people.

Yes. So with this one, fashion editor, you laugh at me. I'm just thinking about this book. I'm so bad at. segueing into the... No, no. I'm laughing because I'm thinking, like, when I read fashion victim,

it was one of those books that, like, actually made me laugh out loud because of how good she is at telling a story. She's so funny. I love how funny she is. So fashion editor, Anya St. Clair is on the verge of greatness. Her wardrobe is to die for. Her social media is killer, and her career path is littered with the bodies of anyone who got in her way.

She's worked hard to get where she is, but she doesn't have everything, not like Sarah Taft. Anya's obsession sits one desk away, beautiful, stylish, and rich. She was born to be a fashion world icon. From her beach wave blonde hair to her on-trend nail art, she's a walking editorial spread. And Anya wants to be her friend, her best friend, her only friend. But when Sarah becomes her top competition for a promotion, Anya's plan to win her friendship goes into overdrive. In order to beat Sarah,

she'll have to become her. Friendly competition may turn fatal, but as they say in fashion, one day you're in, and the next day you're dead. It's like reading a dark comedy thriller. Yeah. She just has such a unique voice.

And she worked in the fashion industry for a really long time. So she brought a lot of fascinating insight to the point that sometimes she's like, people say I wrote satire and I'm like, that's not satire. That's what it actually is like. Oh my gosh. And I've like never forgotten her saying that.

I'm like, did I like, I think she somewhat thinks it's not satire. Like she's like, I'm just representing it. She's just really cool and very creative. And funny. I love that book. Me too.

I remember where I was when I read that book. Like I remember like where I was like sitting in my house. I have books like that. I, it was just such a good reading experience. Yeah. Yeah. It was really hard to put down. Yeah. I think it's like 300 pages, not too long. So there are some books that I'll say like they're like it's hard to put down because of the fact that you don't want to take a break to like go to bed or yeah. Let it. it up but like this was one of those books where like when I say it's like hard to put down I mean like I didn't want to like put it down to go like change my laundry or to go get like

take out or like go like take a shower or whatever but you know what I mean like I just like you've needed to even for like 10 minutes forever and you're just still sitting there yeah yes yeah yeah yeah it's so good so good that's an excellent is mm-hmm you want to laugh and still be thrilled. This is, this is the next book for you. Yeah, 100%. None of mine are funny either, so that that's okay. Balances out very well. A tiny bit of levity. Yeah. Yeah. That's an excellent one. I have one for you because there's, so this is what I was thinking about with the shards when I was reading it. I don't know, but I know that you and I've talked about how, like, we love, like, dark academia. But there's also something about, like, small towns and high school, like, campus that, like, I'm really drawn to as well. Um,

because you're, you're so close to independence and freedom from, like, high school and, like, becoming an adult that, like, when, like, scary things happen, then it's just, like, even more creepy, I think. Yep. Um, you still think you're invincible so like yes the scary stuff is like what um and there's this is no spoiler um to this book but it's also one of those ones that um i was like this should have the same like global phenomenon status as gone girl if there's anything close to it from it's called Everything You Want Me to Be by Mindy Mejia. M-E-J-I-A. I almost put that one on my list.

Are you serious? I read it a long time ago, and I was like, oh, yeah. I read it a long time ago, and I want to read it again. I literally was like, oh, I literally saw it in my list as I was scrolling way back, and I was like, wow, that was really good. Oh, my God. So good. So it's basically about a girl who her name is Hattie Hoffman, and she spent her whole life playing

many parts, such as the good student, the good daughter, the good girlfriend, but she ultimately just ends up wanting something different in her life. She's found brutally stabbed to death in a small town community, and it comes to light that she was engaged in highly compromising and potentially explosive secret online relationship. So basically, her boyfriend, like, seems distraught, but had, like, fallen so deeply in love with her that, like, is it an obsession? And it's one of those books that, like, I think the reason it was so effective with me is that, you know, like the synopsis says, she kind of played a different role with everybody.

so like nobody knew who she really truly was. Right. So it's hard to pinpoint how somebody's murdered when you don't really know them as a person. Yep. But it is one of my favorite books. Yep. I read it.

I think it was probably one of the first or second books that I read when I started my bookstagram. Yeah, I'm trying to see you when I finished it. I was like going. It is just... December of 2017 was when I read it. Okay. All right.

I'm going to look and see when I finished it. I finished it January 15th, 2017. Nice. So it is just, I mean, when I read it, I was like, I love a murder mystery. I didn't expect it to have that impact. On me? Yeah, in depth. Because I just thought it was like a murder mystery, you know, like, kind of like, I guess I was expecting something, I mean, even though this came out before, but I was expecting something

kind of like a mayor of Easttown kind of thing where, you know, you're investigating in this crime. And then like the way that the story is told, the characters, the way that the community is described, it just like literally checked off everything that is fantastic about a thriller, but it's not necessarily one that like you're just racing to get to the end so you can find out what happened. It's just actually something that like you enjoy the entire time and it really sticks with you for a long time after you finish it. I agree. Because I was scrolling and even just saw the cover and I was like, I like remembered so many things about it. And it is so cool how it plays with the fact that everyone's perspective of her is different.

Oh, yeah. And the thing is, too, is that, like, it's kind of normal. Like, you're different with me than you are with Tyler. You're different with your friends than you are with Tyler, you know, relatives. Like, everybody's like that. You know, everybody has a different, not necessarily a different personality, but almost in a way, a different personality. You know, you have a different way of interacting with everyone. Yeah. And you have different things that you share with people. that you might not with others. Yeah. And if something ever happens to someone, it's very hard to piece all of those things together. Yeah. To figure out what happened

because everybody knows different things, I guess. Yes. Even if you're not a mysterious or, like, secretive person, you know. I like the face. Secretive. Secretive. That reminds me of

there was a movie that came out probably in like 2007 called I think vantage point and it was one where like there was some kind of attack that happened or there something scary happening in a city and you basically got eight to ten minutes from each character's perspective all around the city city and each person's perspective changed what you thought was happening. And I remember seeing that when I was in high school and being so obsessed with it and being like, like genuinely loving that experience. And then it's interesting now that we're talking about this book, it reminds me of how many books I like the multiple points of view because essentially that is what you're doing. Like you're seeing different things.

different perspectives is such a fun plot device. It is fun. I like the way, yeah, because to piggyback off what you said, it is one of those things where like, I like in a book where somebody might see something and be like, oh my God, that's suspicious. But then like you find out the meaning behind it and it's either like more sinister than you thought or a lot less sinister. I just felt like with this one, I think what made it so special with me is that she did that. But, instead of using like an action or something that happened, she used a person.

Yes. Yes. So it was just really, really amazing how it was ran. And I love her. She's also very nice. She's also a very, very, very nice lady. Yeah. I haven't talked to her, but that sounds awesome. Or she sounds awesome. We've DM'd and she's just very nice. And She just released the cover for her next book.

Was that her? Yes. Yeah, it comes out this summer. Yeah. And she slid into my DMs and said she would send me a copy. Oh, that's so awesome. Yeah. And I just think that she's very lovely.

And anything I can do to get more people to read this book. Yeah. Yeah. It is. It was really good. It'll stick. with you. And it was her debut, right? That was her debut book. Yeah. And it was that good. Some people can just do it. That was one of those books that I kind of had with like,

almost like the luckiest girl alive when that came out. I remember like seeing it on Amazon and like pre-ordering it. And like I didn't pre-order books back then. So like if I pre-ordered something, it was like a big deal. Yeah. So yeah, this book and like luckiest girl alive. I mean, I never shut up about luckiest girl alive. I never shut up about luckiest girl alive. I never shut. up about how much I love Jessica Noel with all my heart. So yeah. It's definitely in the same vein. Yeah.

Yeah. So I don't think that this will let anybody down. Mm-mm. And if it does let you down, then it's just because you have no taste. None. Yeah. If you don't like this book, your taste in book sucks. I mean, you should just stop listening to this podcast.

So it's really not worth your time. Don't ever talk to me again. Well, in this theme we have now ventured into of teenage girls, my final recommendation is the book of Essie by Megan McLean Wire. Wire. So, buckle up for this description. Esther Ann Hicks, or Essie, is the youngest child on Six for Hicks. a reality TV phenomenon. She's grown up in the spotlight, both idolized and despised for her family's

fire and brimstone brand of faith. When Essie's mother Celia discovers that Essie is pregnant, she arranges an emergency meeting with the show's producers. Do they sneak Essie out of the country for an abortion? Do they pass a child off at Celia's? Or do they try to arrange a marriage and a ratings blockbuster wedding? Meanwhile, Essie is quietly pairing herself up with Rourke Richards. a senior at her school with a secret of his own to protect. As the newly formed couple attempt to sell their fabricated love story to the media through exclusive interviews with an infamously conservative reporter named Liberty Bell, S.E. finds she has questions of her own.

What was the real reason for her older sister leaving home? Who can she trust with the truth about her family? And how much is she willing to sacrifice to win her own freedom? That sounds so fucking good. cover is gorgeous. The cover is beautiful. The title is amazing. Like when you're writing a book about someone differentiating from or individuating from like a strict religious background to call it the book of Essie. It's so funny because it's like the book of John, the book of Matthew. Like love the title, love the cover. And then it's just like so many cool plot things.

So you have the whole reality TV isn't really a real version of life. And then you have religious performatism. Performativism isn't really a real version of life either. So there's all this fake stuff going on. And there are a lot of secrets to uncover. I added it to my wish list. I remember reading it and being like, I wish I could find more books like this and like just not finding.

anything quite like it. But if you do love hilarious takedowns on like megachurch type stuff, which is what this basically is, uh, the righteous gemstones on HBO Max is one of the funniest comedies ever. And like really knows how to display megachurches in a really funny light. So if you like dark comedy, there's a TV reference to. I just really am obsessed with this cover. It's so beautiful.

It sounds really good. Is it a thriller or is it more like drama? I would say it is in there are secrets, but it's more like a domestic. Character driven. Yeah, and character driven. Young adult. Sounds really good. Suspense, yeah.

Awesome. I remember reading it. and just loving it. The cover basically is religious iconography. It's perfect. Did you read it a while ago? Really long time ago. It says it came out in 2018,

so it must have been, yeah, I read it in 2018. I love when things happen like that, though, or like a book like really like sticks with you for a long time. It was one of the first one I thought of when you brought up the topic. I was like, I haven't talked about the book of us. perfect topic.

I saved the first one I thought of for last two. Oh my gosh. What is up with us? This is so weird. Well, I guess we're going to, I mean, we can't segue from yours to mine. There are literally no connections. Yours might be like, yours might be some young adult and mine is for like very, very brief.

brave adult, we'll say. Brave adult. I love that. This is something I've, I've never talked about this book on the podcast. Which is why it was like, okay. But I have talked about why these stories draw me in.

Because I talked about how I loved the Final Girl support group by Grady Hendrix. Because, you know, I think that one of the things I find really interesting in thrillers and suspense and horror even is how fucked up our people's lives after something horrible happens. You know, like the killer's dead. You got the answer. You arrested the bad guy or you killed the bad guy. But what happens to you when like all of the, like, what's left of these people, right?

which is why if there's any recommendation it is called What You Don't Know by Joanne Cheney It is one of my favorite books in the entire world but it is gritty It is character driven It is harrowing

And It is gritty It is terrifying So I'm just going to read the synopsis word for word because if I start talking about it, you're going to be like, well, Garrett, you talked about Joanne Cheney for three hours straight. It says he didn't take their lives, but he ruined them. A series of murders brings Denver to its knees in a wonderfully voice-driven, dark rye and

wholly original page-turning debut. The last victims of an infamous serial killer on death row may be the ones that he didn't kill. Seven years ago, Detective Paul Hoskins and his larger-than-life partner solved one of the biggest serial murder cases of the decade. They dug up 33 bodies in a crawl space belonging to the beloved Jackie Seaver, a pillar of the community and successful businessman. Sammy Peterson was the lead reporter on the case. Her byline was the front page of the newspaper every day. Seaver's wife, Gloria, claimed to be as surprised as anyone else. Today, Detective Hoskins has been banished to cold cases. Sammy is trying to make or selling makeup at the

mall and Gloria is trying to navigate a world in which she can't escape condemnation. And Seaver is watching the show. But when a series of new murders occur and the victims are all somehow connected to Seaver, Gloria is once again thrust into the spotlight while Hoskins and Sammy realized they may be their chance to get their lives back, even if it means forfeiting their humanity in the process. I mean, that sounds pretty terrifying. I don't think this is, I don't know if it's like, I don't think this is a spoiler, but like, oh no, it was in the synopsis.

Like him being like a successful businessman and like pillar of the community is like literally having like your mayor who's like the most popular man in the like fucking town be like, it's just like the guy that nobody suspected to be a serial killer and you dig up 33 bodies in his crawl space. Like, it's so chilling. But I loved how dark and gritty this one was. Because her, the way that this woman tells a story is beyond fantastic. Yeah.

And I love how, like, screwed up these characters are after. Because obviously, like, the wife, you know, nothing against it, but, like, the wife of this person is a very, obvious choice in a story like this. But yeah, when you go to like the detective, like, you think that like the detective's work is kind of like done and like, I'm just going to move on with my life now that I saw this case. But like his life is screwed up. And like the news reporter, you know, like the, like the girl who was like writing all about it and everything. Yeah. Should have like skyrocketed into like popularity is like selling makeup at the mall because like she can't really be a journalist anymore.

Mm-hmm. So good. So good. The cover is really cool. It made me think, the cover made me think a house of cards. Is it the red? Is it the red cover with like half of, I think the paperback cover is different. Okay.

The paperback is like a house. Yeah, it's that red one. And the face of the woman looks so much like, I am blinking. Claire. Robin, right. Yeah, Claire. Yeah. this is the paperback cover

oh wow yeah that's a lot different um yeah I love this book with all of my heart it is so good it is so like powerful and effective and just fantastic

if you want something that's very character driven but isn't your typical thriller you know like the right I mean, obviously there's like new murders and you're like, what the hell's going on? But like, you know, just to be in that place of having something like this come out of nowhere and like ruin so many people's lives. Yeah. And it's one of the first books I've read for Bookstagram. I think like in 2017, to be honest.

That's cool. Yeah, it says it was published in 2017. Yeah. I remember having the hardcover. I don't know where it went. But it is, she has a second book, too. That is also, like, fantastic. But this one just has stuck with me for, like, a very, very, very long time.

Yeah. And it is fantastic. It sounds really good. It almost gives me, like, Silence of the Lambs with, like, John Wayne Gacy. Wow. Probably because of the crawl space, but... Yeah.

The general creepiness. I don't know if I made this up in my head. I don't think it's a spoiler, but I also want to say that the guy in this book who's the serial killer, I want to say that one of the things he did for the community was perform at children's birthdays as a clown. So...

So, yeah. Yeah. I'm setting all of these aside, all of these books, because, like, everything that I talked about tonight, I want to reread. And then I'm just going to order the ones that you recommended because... Mm-hmm. Yeah. I know. I even kind of want to reread.

But I have so many new ones to read. I know. And so many movies to watch. One of my goals for 2023 and being... not so strict with myself is to if I'm in the mood to reread something or I want to read something that's like backlist or whatever to just give in to those temptations. I think, yeah. Actually doing this podcast is what helped me loosen up on my reading because I would read

backlist and not just be strategic and trying to book guests. And so then when we could talk about anything, I was like, oh. And so then I could read some of the ones that you were recommending to me, and it made it so much more fun again. So I think you'll have a similar experience. You know what I was thinking about the other day is, so like when I was on my Christmas break, like I watched a lot of 90s movies. I watched Home Alone, obviously, like Christmas Eve, but like I watched a lot of 90s movies. I watched Primal Fear. I watched a movie called Unlawful Entry.

which is a fantastic thriller about a couple who has a home invasion and the officer who like arrives to like arrest the bad guy kind of becomes obsessed with this couple and start stalking them. So like the detective is like or the cop is like the bad guy. But I was like, oh my God, I want to watch this. I know I've watched it a hundred times, but I'm just in the mood to watch it and I gave in and I watched it instead of watching like something new.

And I was like, I don't regret that because I already know that I love that movie. And that's how I feel that's that's kind of my outlook with books. Like, I know that I love Joanne Cheney's book. I know that I could probably give a speech that would last hours about how much I love this book, how much I love her as a person, how much I love her as an author. She has fantastic hair. If you want to follow Julian Cheney on. Instagram, she has fantastic hair.

She is a lovely person. She is so kind. But you know what? I'm in a view the same way about books that I do about movies. How do I know that a movie is one of my favorites? It's because I've watched it more than once and I've loved it at each and every time. So if I'm in the mood to reread something that I know that I love, I'm going to reread it because that's how it becomes one of your favorite books.

It is.