Bookwild - Our Favorite Genres Part One

Episode Date: October 25, 2022

We are back this week to talk about our favorite genres!You can also watch the episode on YouTubeFollow us on Instagram!Garehttps://www.instagram.com/gareindeedreads/Katehttps://www.instagram.com/thegirlwiththebookonthecouch/Books We Talked About This WeekButcher and the WrenAll Good People HereLook CloserBrian FreemanKismetPlease See UsJar of HeartsThe Sandman Get Bookwild MerchCheck Out My Stories Are My Religion SubstackCheck Out Author Social Media PackagesCheck out the Bookwild Community on PatreonCheck out the Imposter Hour Podcast with Liz and GregFollow @imbookwild on InstagramOther Co-hosts On Instagram:Gare Billings @gareindeedreadsSteph Lauer @books.in.badgerlandHalley Sutton @halleysutton25Brian Watson @readingwithbrian 

Hey guys, welcome to the Killing the Tea podcast. This is Gare and Kate. And we are going to be discussing all things, chills, thrills, and kills. Kate and I are going to be talking about our favorite books, TV shows and movies that are in the thriller or crime fiction genre, as well as some reading habits and other items related to how we met on Bookstagram that will fit in with this podcast. So, Thank you so much for joining us. And we hope that you have fun and get totally terrified. I think that's like one of the reasons we also have so much to talk about is it's crazy how many of the same books we've read for years even. And then didn't talk about them because we didn't know each other yet. I think it's also crazy that we have so many books in common, but we also have so many books that we're recommending to one another in the same sense. So it's like really like right down the middle. Yeah.

Because I always like, I mean, I have like secret tips on how to like find out what's coming up and like what's happening. Oh, nice. And I always peruse Amazon. Yeah. You can pick a genre of books and then like at the bottom you hit see all and you do it by publication day at the top and it'll like start with like the books farthest out. And then like as you like go down like. list. It'll be what's, you know, either coming out soon or what's like recently been out. So, but even though I use that and I think that I know what's going on in the book world, it's like you are like

helping me find so many other books that. Yeah. I would have never found on my own. Like yeah, when I don't know what I'm going to read next, sometimes I just go to your profile and see what you love is the most. I'm like, okay, I'll do that one. I have my Amic. on wish list. Like I have separate ones. I have ones for like books that I'm expecting review copies of. I have like queer romance. I have like general just like thrillers that are coming out. But I actually have my like general wish list is just books that you've recommended to me. No, nice. That's awesome. So like whenever you recommend one, I add it to my wish list really quickly. And then I know that I can just like if I'm in a rut, I can look and see what comes up.

Like Jessica Payne, Samantha Haynes, some of those. Yes. Yeah. I was writing down. I saw, I read multiple of Samantha Haynes is what I was realizing when I was just looking at stuff for today. Well, that's, yeah. That's also, I had a rut this weekend.

I read. Really? Mm-hmm. I read The butcher and the Wren. And I loved that. The butcher and the written? Yes. Okay.

And I really, really enjoyed it. It was so fast-paced. It was like a quick read and it was so good. It's Elena, your cue heart. She does the morbid podcast. Okay. It was so good. You're reading podcasters books this month.

I guess so. Yeah, I know. I know. I know this thought. The Ashley Flowers book, which we haven't talked about on here yet. But yeah, I read it. I loved it. but then the next two books that I read after that were just like mediocre.

And I, and one of them's like a popular bookstore author. Oh, no. But it just felt like a lifetime movie, you know, like it wasn't like my favorite, but I didn't hate it. So then I just found myself in a reading rut. And I was like, looking back, I wish I would have picked up. Like, I wish I could find something that I had the feeling of the Jessica Payne book. especially for fall. Yes.

I want like, that one was perfect. It was so good. It was so good. And I could not put it down. Yeah. I loved it. And the character was so fun. Like all of it.

The setting. It really is really good fall one. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's what I want because like right now it's like, this is my time to shine in my happiness because I'm like, it's finally like cool here. And it's perfect for like blanket and a hoodie and like a hot cup of cup of coffee or tea or whatever.

And then like reading some scary ass crime fiction. Yeah. So. Yeah. We watched a lot of scary movies this weekend. Like quite a few of them. And one of them that you recommended. Fresh, which actually you recommended it last week.

So everybody's heard about that. So good. It was amazing. Very neat. Yeah. When you were messaging me, I was like, oh, should I watch Fresh again? because I really wanted to, but I don't remember what I watched this. Yo, yeah, I watched Halloween too this weekend.

Oh, nice. I just love the nostalgia. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's a perfect time, too. Are you getting, like, are you getting orange leaves yet? Because we're not. Yes, we are.

It's been raining, like, a lot the past couple of days. So, but yeah, I've noticed that it was that kind of annoying thing in the beginning. a fall where I noticed the leaves were dying, but it was still hot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So now I'm like really paying attention to it because it's just, especially like around here, it's so nice when it starts to like change up and everything. Yeah, I bet. waking up and having it be cold and, oh, just my jam.

It's cold in the mornings for us, but it got, it's 88 right now outside and human. Like, it's nasty. I can't do humidity. It is so bad. Probably gonna piss you off by telling you. It's 58 here. Yeah, tell Tyler we need to move.

Yeah, it's like with, well, tomorrow the high 74, which is like very strange. And then it just goes back to like, I don't think it's going to be higher than like 60

the rest of like the next 10 day forecast. I don't know. I don't know what it's going to be. I haven't looked at the weather for the week yet. I mean, if it was 80 in humid, I wouldn't either. I don't blame.

Yeah, I'm like, I don't need to know anything more. I'm going to stay inside. I've seen enough. Yeah, I felt it. I'm done. So what kind of book was the butcher and the Wren? Well, I'm glad you asked because it is my favorite type of crime fiction thriller. That Nordic noir?

Serial killer. Oh. I mean, Nornick Okay, you know what, though you're not wrong because Nordic Noir is super atmospheric and it usually deals with a serial killer, honestly. Like a lot of Nordic Noir is a serial killer.

It just snows when they have them. This one is about a medical examiner and a serial killer in the Louisiana Bayou. Oh, okay. So it was very good. I don't think that I can say more because I don't want to split. It's a very short book. It's about 250 pages.

Oh, nice. Okay. So it was a very quick read. I absolutely loved it. The pacing was great. There were no like moments where I was like, this feels, I hate to say filler. Because obviously, like, when you're an author, you have something like in your mind when you're telling a story and you want people to be in like as enthralled in it as.

you are excited to tell it. So, but there were no, like, moments where I was like, there were no lulls, we'll just say. I get that. Yeah. Yeah. That's the key to keeping, like, Tyler interested in anything. So if I know it's like a story that just keeps moving, like, he doesn't get bored. Yeah.

Yeah. That's what I need. We do the same way. That's what I need. What did you read this weekend? Anything? So I finished. Where did I finish this weekend?

I'm trying to remember which one it was. I think I finished look closer on like Friday maybe I don't know I love that one though that so was amazing I speaking of types of thrillers we like I love con thrillers like when they're good like so fun like even if you just have two points of you but having like four I was mind blowing and it was so good so good not put it down yeah I feel like I mean not anything against it. It was obviously a very original idea, but I feel like when I read that book, he took everything out of your typical average thriller that works and combined them all together with one of really fantastic story. I would agree. That is a really good spoiler-free description of it.

Like there were elements that were kind of like gone girlish. There were elements that were like kind of like Peter Swanson. Yes. And I mean, spoiler-free, obviously. It reminded me of the kind of worth killing when I finished it. Yeah. And I love the setting, I guess.

You know, the kind of like suburban aspect. But then there's also the city aspect and it takes place around Halloween. Mm-hmm. So. It was great. I really liked it a lot. Yeah, I love that.

I was making me think about like it's not a super deeply character driven story. Like, it's not fleshing out characters as much as like some other ones. But it's making me realize how much like sometimes I still just enjoy a really well executed plot that like is so twisty throughout the whole book. And then sometimes I do really like a book because it's really character driven. So I actually do kind of like both. 100%. I think it's a very fine line because there are moments where something like look closer that is like really fast paced. If there were more character development in it, I think that it might have kind of slowed down the pacing of the story. I agree. But yeah, there are some people who are fantastic at writing really fast paced stories with like really great character development. And sometimes it drives. drags the story down. Yeah.

I know. Like there's one book that you and I discussed that we didn't really care for. And I felt like the character development in that was kind of what brought the story down. Yes. Yeah. You don't want your book to be too long. Like it just like you don't want on a TV series to go on for too long. It's the same thing.

I think what closer was pretty long though. It was about 400 pages. Yeah. I know. He pulled it off. Like it did not feel too long. too long because it was like 450 pages. You know what else I think of too.

Sometimes I think of the like I don't even want to say I'm a foodie because I honestly eat a rotation of like the same five things. I would say the exact same thing about myself. But like I love food. Yes. Yes. 12 year old like I will like pizza for instance. Like I love pizza but like I will rotate like where I get it from.

But the thing about look closer that I remember is it was like. like storming here when I was reading it. Ooh, nice. And I had the best Chinese food of my life. And I was like, what a combo. That's amazing. That's perfect. I love when I door dash something and read on the couch and then food disappears.

It's a very good moment. I don't think that we have door dash around here. Yeah. I'm really out in the sticks. It would be like an Amish buggy that would be delivering that if we did. Like, no lie. We didn't have it for forever because, like, it was on the coasts for the longest time. And then, like, it slowly worked its way.

But there were, like, years where, like, we would hear people talk about it in podcast. And I'd be like, what is that? Yeah. So, like, I have to drive everywhere to, like, get my takeout. But it's anywhere between 15 minutes to a half an hour. Mm-hmm. But you know what? Sometimes I really like, especially on the weekends when I get takeout, I,

I love like reading a book and being like, okay, this is my like halfway is my stopping point. Yeah. I'm going to digest what I read on my way to go pick up the food and back. And then like that way, kind of come up with my own theories. So yeah, I like that. I mean, however, obviously this winter when it's like super crappy and it's snowing and blowing and there's freezing rain, I'm going to wish we had DoorDash. Yeah. Yeah.

That is when it's nice. But then you feel like you have to tip them so much. I feel like I have to tip everybody. Can we just talk about that? I tip everybody. I just mean I feel like I need to tip them more when they like are in a storm. Oh yeah, 100%. But like I feel like I have to tip everybody.

And the thing that sucks about that is there are some places that you go to. And when you sign your receipt, there are there's an option to tip. But like even like I go to subway on Tuesdays before we record. And I noticed today like I didn't. have cash on me because I usually don't. There was no thing. When I like put my card in, it was just like, okay, thanks. Like, have a good day. Like, I didn't have to sign anything.

I didn't have to put my pin in. Like, there was no option to tip. And I felt like such an asshole. Oh. And I, because I had no cash on me. Yeah. That's weird that it didn't. Print one out. Because I'll always tip. Even if I'm just like doing takeout or like subway or something. But like today was just. So if you work at subway and upstate New York. around me. I love you guys so much.

And it's always the same girl that is working. And she is like the sweetest little honeybun in the entire world. And I just like, she's so friendly and she makes like a bomb ass veggie delights up. That's exciting. Prop to her. I'll get you next time, girl. Yeah. You're like, I will come with cash.

More cash. Next time you're getting 20 bucks. That's a tip. That's nice. So we, when we lived, it doesn't matter. When we live somewhere else, we were really close to a subway. And we got to know the person who worked there all the time. And then we were kind of sad when we moved because she, like, knew what we wanted.

We would, like, talk to her about stuff. That stuff's, like, fun when you kind of get to know people that way. 100%. I went on, like, a while where I was just burnt out from subway. And I was like, ugh, that sounds horrible. But like for the past few months, I've just been noticing that similar to like a reading rut, like when I'm in like a dinner rut and I don't know what I want, like subway just always hits the spot. You know, like I'm like, do I want Chinese food?

No, that doesn't sound good. Do I want pizza? Yeah. That doesn't sound good. Subway. Yep. Subway. We are sponsored by Subway.

I wish. One day we will. We'll make it a goal. I wish. Could you imagine? Oh my God. I don't even want like. obviously I would accept free food, but like even if Subway sent me like a t-shirt,

I would wear the, I would wear the shit. Honestly, honestly, like concerts, I need a t-shirt. Traveling somewhere, I need a t-shirt. Like, that is just my go-to. I love, I love this like trend right now of them having like vintage pop culture t-shirts, like 902.0. I found one that had like the scream movies on them which obviously I bought.

That's perfect. Yeah. It was amazing. It was amazing. Yeah, I live in T-shirts. I don't dress up at all. Now that I like work from home too, I mean,

it's been a couple of years. But now that I work from home, like it's just nice. Not that I like super dressed up when I went into the office, but like it's nice to be like, oh, look, like, like athletic shorts. I can wear those around the house

and working from home and like, oh, t-shirts. Like, this is, it feels better telling myself that it's work attire compared to like, just more close for me to lounge around my house and read in. Right. That is the dream, though. Lounging and reading. Yeah. Yeah.

So now that we kind of know a lot about our subway. About subway. I like, I know you've been like keeping track of like, like what we discuss on here, like bookwise and stuff. And I think it's going to be my goal to listen to these episodes after and wonder how many times I mentioned Subway. That's a good point. Or how many times you mentioned that Tyler made fun of your bangs, which by the way,

look fantastic today. Thank you. My hair is shiny today. They always, your bings always look good. Thank you. You see the good version. But I, today, there is just light bouncing off those puppies. My hair is just very shiny today. It is very shiny today.

I know. I got on camera and I texted Tyler. I was like, my hair looks great. Just see. Yeah. Yeah. I know. Thank you. I hope you. I, listen, Kate the Great, I always notice. I always notice the locks. You do. I always do. I got me. my haircut yesterday. Ooh. Nice. This is like the perfect length because like she used to like I love her, but she used to cut it like a little short to my liking. So sometimes we would like skip like she would just do the sides in the back and everything and kind of like the top bra a little bit. But it was

yeah, it was it's the perfect length right now and I'm loving it. But there's also something about whether I get a haircut and it's like longer or shorter than I want. I just always feel so much better when I get my haircut. Like that is the week that you take on the world. It really is though. Like often it aligns for me that I get my nails filled. I redo my lashes and I do my roots. And I'm like, I am invincible right now. Yeah. Yeah. For me, it's in my bangs. That's the other one. Yeah. For me, it's just like the haircut and a good old eyebrow wax. And then I'm just like ready to go. which is funny because I only like I socialize like one day a week. But you know, I do a lot of stuff on the other day.

So like the. Yeah. My bestie at Subway like I want to make sure I look fresh and good for her. Like I want to make sure I look fresh when I go grocery shopping. Yeah. When I go to the bookstore, I mean, you know. So yeah. There's nothing like a fresh haircut and like picking up one of your favorite books when you

get home. Yes. Because I'm in between books right now. I don't know what's up coming for me. Oh, no. Sounds so bleak. It's like a first date. Or like a blind date. It's like this could either be a look closer moment or it could be like the two moments that I had this past weekend when I read a book that I just thought was okay and then the book that I read directly after that I thought was okay. So I'm hoping my next one is more like look closer or like the butcher and the red. Yeah, for real though. I hate when that happens. Yeah, but. I haven't had to happen too many times this year. Well, I have to do a little digging. I need, it's fall. I want to prioritize like the good shit. you know what I mean?

Like I want my favorite type of thriller is a serial killer thriller and I will die on that hill. I don't know what it is. I don't feel as twisted that that's my favorite type of thriller because America is obsessed with serial killers. They're obsessed with true crime. I'm only reading about fictional people being murdered. That's how I feel about it. So I am not twisted. I am just, you know what?

love playing detective. Yeah, you need to read, you know how we were talking about the Brian Freeman books? That's what you need to read if you want a spooky serial killer one right now. That is a very good idea. I'm actually thinking I might be starting that when we're done recording tonight. Yeah, I think that might be what you need. It's so twisty and spooky and creepy. I run out of room very easily on my bookshelves. So I know. I sometimes have to like really bite the bullet and get rid of things that I've had for a few years that I haven't read yet.

Yeah. Because I have that mentality that if I decide I'm going to go back and read this, I could very well just get it on my Kindle. Mm-hmm. Still supporting the author, actually supporting them twice because I bought the book twice. But that's a very good idea. That is a very good idea. And I think, I think the book that you're recommending is part of a trilogy. Yes.

The Nightbird is the first one. So that might be something. It's sold. The Nightbird is the first one you said, correct? Yep. It is $1.99 on Kind of. That's amazing. This is going to be...

That's exciting. Okay, well, I had fun, so I'll talk to you next week. Oh, goodbye. See ya. That's hilarious. We solved the problem. Yep, yep. This episode was us just talking about Subway and Cave the Great helping me pick my next

read. So, toodles, guys. Oh, my gosh. But yeah, I just love... Serial Killer Thrillers is your vibe. It is my vibe. You think that's your number one? I don't know if I could pick my number one, though.

That is my number one. I will die on that hill. I will die on that hill. There is nothing I love more. You know what it is? I think it's I love playing detective. Yep. And right now there's a trope between

not so much like a serial killer, like a Ted Bundy kind of style, but the serial killer thrillers of you thinking it's one person and then finding out like 10, 15, 20 years later that it was a different person or that that person could possibly be guilty or could possibly be innocent, like a flicker in the dark. Oh, I was thinking about that one when I was looking through stuff today. And I was like, that one was so good. So good. Because when we were thinking about

auto buys, I was like, I almost consider her an auto buy, even though I could only buy one right now. Do you have her new arc? Not yet. Okay. I don't either. I requested it. I. I'm fingers crossed. They, because I like love Minotaur. I love St. Martin's Press. And so like they do like the blasts where they send you like, here's what's coming out. Let us know what you want. Like, you know.

Oh, nice. So I hope. I mean, if I had if I had her second one right now, like that would be. Yeah, that'd be what you'd read. That'd be what I'm reading. Yeah. Right now like talking about. I have this problem where like.

when I talk about a book that I love, I want to reread it, you know? Yeah. I look in the darkest. Or experience it again. I loved that book so much. So good. I like stayed up really late finishing it. Same.

Same. I don't remember what I even ate. That's how good the book was. I don't remember what I ate when I was reading it. For some reason, I feel like I was eating a rice crispy. For some reason, I want to say I was probably getting takeout pizza. Yeah. Yeah, but I like, I will, I mean, a serial killer will just, I love psychological thrillers, but I mean, when you ask me like, what's your favorite kind of thriller? It's just so easy for me to say serial killer thriller. The only things that I, like, I mean, I'm pretty easy when it comes to thrillers. The only thing I can't do are like, yeah, espionage or spy thrillers because I don't mind those genres in like a movie when it's kind of like, like, you know.

laid out for me, but in a book, I just don't have the brain capacity. Yeah. There's a lot to translate. So I think movement wise and all of that. Yeah. Psychological thriller and serial killer thriller are my top two. A psychological serial killer thriller will like send me into an oblivion. Like you will not hear from your favorite.

That's my thing is like it's kind of hard for me to pick a top because when, yeah, when there are multiple together, it typically is amazing. And so then I can't tell you, I couldn't really tell which part of it is the part I loved. But yes, when it's like notes on an execution, that's on my list. Flawless for that description. Oh, my God. I was like, obviously you and I can, like our episodes could be seven or eight hours if we had the time. Yeah.

And the audience of people that would want to listen to us for several years. But there are so many books that some of us. Sometimes I'm like, oh man, I wish I would have mentioned that one. But the podcast episode would have been five hours. Yeah. I know. I know. But notes on an execution, broke my heart, scared the shit out of me, and just had me, like, in such an emotional.

Me too. Hormoyal. It was so heavy. Like when I finished it, I was just like sitting there quietly. I was just like, that was a lot. There's like one scene that just. just scared the hell out of me, but it also like broke me as like a person and I had to take a break. Yeah. And I can't say what it was, but it was when something had like happened that I was

not expecting because it is kind of like, I guess it like flirts with like literary fiction almost a little bit. Oh yeah. Don't expect to be shocked. Like that was one that I was like, this is very character driven, but I'm into it. Like you are telling me that this girl loves like, this kind of bubble gum and her favorite colors yellow and I immediately know what kind of person she is, you know, like that kind of thing. But for that one, like, I was not expecting to be shocked because it was character driven the entire time in such an amazing way. And then I just, oh my gosh, I would love to read that again.

So good. Yeah. So good. But I love stories like that that kind of like mess with like. your expectations of a thriller or they mess with like the boundaries of a thriller. Yeah. Have you read Chasing the Boogie Man? No, I have it.

Richard. I'm going to murder his last name. Chismar, Shizmar, C-H-I-Z-M-A-R. It's called Chasing the Boogie Man. Boogie Man. I thought you said Bohemian. Oh, that would be. fun. No, boogieman. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, boogeyman.

Yeah. Nice. It's a Kindle Unlimited one. It, get it. Yeah. I will not like... I will. I will literally buy you a gift card if you read it because you will die. It is so good. It is a serial killer thriller. Okay. Written like a non-fiction. Whoa.

So it is written like true crime. It's based on something that happened in this author's, like, life as a child or, like, surrounding. And his imagination got the best of him and he did, like, a what-if moment. Like, his main character's name is Richard Chisholmire. Oh, my gosh. That's amazing. It is so good. Yeah, it says it's a heart-rending work of meta-fiction.

I do love meta stuff. That is very meta. You're going to, like, I'm telling you between, like, fresh and. and look closer and then this, you are just going to be like be happy. That's why your bangs are so shiny because you're so happy. It is. I'm so happy. That's why. That's why.

Yes. Yeah, literally like it's coming out of your hair follicles. Your happiness. It is. You can see it. That's funny. I am really excited though. This looks great.

You know it's free. You love it. Well, I paid for him a little limited. I thought my, how much is. Kindle Unlimited. It's like $8 a month. Okay. I thought it was like $30 a month. And typically like now that we're talking about it, you're going to get ads now that'll be like get your first three months free. Like that happens all the time too. I feel like there's a huge amount of books that are on Kindle Unlimited. A lot of romance. I know that's like a lot of romances on it too. I feel like when it

first started nothing against Amazon like I love my Kindle it's my baby but when it first started it were like it had books that I like wasn't like super interested in but now like if a book like chasing the boogeyman is on it then yeah obviously you're turning up there if you read her books yeah we both read under her care right I read the return okay yeah she has a lot of books and hers are on Kindle Unlimited. So she keeps popping up on my book talk. Me too. She has a new book coming out.

I don't know what it's called, but it's like dark water with like a car submerged in it. I don't care if it's about ants going to subway and they crash the car. I am reading that book because the cover is beautiful. I think she's, I want to say, okay, this is all alleged because I don't know. know this 100% but I think she used to be a trauma therapist. Yes. And now she writes thrillers. And that is that is what I think makes her stand out because her character

development is not like people aren't having these things happen to them in these books and just like, putting the dust off and then just like I'm back to my happy normal self. And I think that's what I love about her is like no matter what kind of book she reads it's going to be there's going to be an aspect of psychological thriller in that because of how good her characters are so yep I will say under her care is another one that is so you would love that one too it's not super spooky but it's like dark and twisty I love dark and I love twisty and I loved her book and she's very very nice off the deep end is the one you're talking about The deep end.

That's about to come out. Yes. Yeah. That I'm really excited. That is, I mean, I want to have it on my Kindle because I feel like I've been reading a lot on my Kindle lately and I'm loving it. But that cover is so beautiful. Like I need the physical copy of that. I know.

It's really pretty. Even if I'm like standing in like a river somewhere with that book for like a solid bookstagram picture, I don't even care. It's just. I get it. I love it. I love it. I'm trying to find the time to drive up to Walker Russo, which is where Ashley Flowers book, Why Can't it? All Good People Here took place. It's only like two hours away for me. And I want to make like a vibe video from the book.

But it's like I haven't had enough time to spend like four hours in the car yet. But I have like a shot list. I really want to make it. I'm dying for this. I'm dying for this. I would love. I can't wait to see that. Yeah. I can't want you to see that. That's another good one. Mm-hmm. That one was so good.

How one was wild. Somebody messaged me recently on Instagram. Uh-huh. And they were like, oh, my God, I read this book because you recommended it. I absolutely loved it. And then they said the same thing about the ending that you had said to me. Uh-huh. And I was like, oh.

well, I guess it could be like either or like whatever you, you know, like want to believe. And then she like went back and like reread the last chapter and she was like, oh shit, I think you're right. Yeah. But yeah, I love. Mainly what I agree with is like, you don't technically know. But I know what I know where you mean to. Yeah.

Yeah. But I was just, I thought of you because it was just another like hopeful, hopeful person out there that wants to believe in it. I was like, what if she just wanted to leave it up to interpretation? So we all talk about it. Yeah. Which is actually a good strategy. If I were a writer, I think I would do that.

I would be the kind of person that people would be pissed at because I think that I would have a lot of a lot of that. Yeah, being polarizing is still, I was talking to Tyler about it because I was telling him there were polarizing reviews for it. And I was like, but so many people are commenting and talking about it. it like that's what you want especially when like a lot of the people did love it i have a dream of writing a book one day and like having this like big ass showdown between your protagonist and your antagonist and just having something happen like i don't care if they go over a balcony i don't

care if like something happens where you think they are both dead and having the very end have like the paramedics and the police come and like say like we've got a live one one in here and having it end. That's great. Are you the person that believes that that person that went through so much, your protagonist that like you were really rooting for? Like, did they survive? Or did evil win?

I feel like I need to cut that out because what if you write it and we don't want people to know the end? Right? I mean, I feel like it could be, if I could just focus enough, Mm-hmm. I've got like some pretty, like, pretty solid ideas that I would like to write. I just don't know what kind of writer I am or if I'm a good writer. I would love to be the person that found somebody who's a really good writer but like needs help with like ideas.

Mm-hmm. And then like, we just work together and I'm like, what about this idea? And they just like turn it into something brilliant. Hey, guys. I hope you enjoyed part one of this episode. If you did, make sure that you come back on Thursday for part two. And don't forget to stay out to date with everything that we're reading and talking about on our Instagrams at Gare Indeed Reads and at The Girl with the book on the couch.

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