Bookwild - Summer Thrillers to Pre-Order NOW
Episode Date: May 4, 2023This week, we share books we can't wait to read that come out in June, July and August of 2023.Follow us on Instagram:Gare @gareindeedreadsKate @thegirlwiththecookonthecouchBooks We Talked AboutThe Wo...ods Are WaitingOut of the AshesKismet Ashley JamesYou Can Trust MeSt. Ambrose School for GirlsThe Quiet TenantSing Her DownA Likeable WomanA Twisted Love StoryWhat Never HappenedI Did it For YouThe Last OneDon’t Forget the GirlDark CornersThe TrapWhere the Dead SleepZero Days Get Bookwild MerchCheck Out My Stories Are My Religion SubstackCheck Out Author Social Media PackagesCheck out the Bookwild Community on PatreonCheck out the Imposter Hour Podcast with Liz and GregFollow @imbookwild on InstagramOther Co-hosts On Instagram:Gare Billings @gareindeedreadsSteph Lauer @books.in.badgerlandHalley Sutton @halleysutton25Brian Watson @readingwithbrian
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Hey guys, welcome to the Killing the Tea podcast. This is Gare and Kate. And we are going to be discussing
all things, chills, thrills, and kills. Kate and I are going to be talking about our favorite books,
TV shows and movies that are in the thriller or crime fiction genre, as well as some reading habits
and other items related to how we met on Bookstagram that will fit in with this podcast. So,
Thank you so much for joining us, and we hope that you have fun and get totally terrified.
Hey, I am blissful because I just finished a really big project, like 20 minutes before we got on.
So I am slowly getting transition out of work mind and into fun mind.
Fun mode activated.
Yes, without anything hanging over my head. How are you?
Good. I started reading a new book when I got done.
done work at 430 and I'm 175 pages into it. Oh my God. And you read three this weekend or four?
Three. It's impressive. I read, yeah. I read out of ashes. Which I'm waiting right now.
Kara Thomas. Yes. So good. So good. I read The Woods Are Waiting by Catherine Green, which comes out in July, which was incredible.
Yes. And I read Kissmet by Ashley James, which is my new.
favorite book in the entire world. Now we both have a favorite book called Kismet. Oh my God.
There's a special edition of Kismet that has like gold foil on the cover. Yeah. And she posted the link
today to pre-order. Bet your ass I did. That is so exciting. I can't wait. I just loved it so much.
I can't wait to read it again. I can't stop thinking about them. Oh, you're like me post.
Evelyn Hugo
Yeah
Yeah
That's why
The relationship
Between Cash and Stone
Which are the two men
It reminds me
A little bit of
Celia and Evelyn
And that's why I was like
Oh my God, I mean to read it
I do
And it's Kindle Unlimited
I know that
Quite a few of the ones you've mentioned are
So I can just literally read them whenever.
Right now I'm reading.
I just started the true love experiment by Christina Lauren.
Okay.
And it's so cute and I'm loving it.
It's so good.
I'm like cracking up.
And I'm also reading Shiver by Ella Frank, which is a male male.
I don't know if I want to call it a romance.
It's a male male story and it's a stalker.
But it's very like 50 Shades of Grey if 50 Shades of Gray was like dirtier.
That's amazing.
So I'm just like living my best life right now.
Yeah, there are many people.
There aren't many books you can say that about.
No, no.
But my girl, Holly.
She knows where they're at.
She'll find them for you.
We're not a thriller podcast anymore.
I'm still reading thrillers in between.
No, I know. I'm kidding.
But there's different kinds of thrills now with this is what I'm reading.
That's a good way to put it.
I'm like, oh, my goodness.
Oh, my goodness.
You're like, I'm just.
that TikTok sound? It's like, oh my goodness. Oh, God damn. We're going ham. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's how I feel
when I'm reading. I'm like, oh, my goodness. Hot damn. Oh, they're going ham. It's like, so intense.
No wonder you're reading three books a weekend. I know. And the other thing is that's crazy is between
like Monday and Sunday, I think. I read like six books. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
it was nuts. It was nuts. And I just like, it didn't feel like it. You know what I mean? Like, it didn't feel
like I was like, oh my God. I like forced myself to read. Like I was just like, one after another.
Like could not, could not stop. Yeah. I get that. But yeah. Now I'm nervous that I'm going to go on this like Christina Lauren journey because I'm like loving the new book so much.
But yeah, we'll see what happens. We just got to reel it in somewhere. I got to reel it. I got to reel it.
That's my icebreaker, by the way.
That's your icebreaker.
Yeah, here's what I read.
Everyone read too.
Bye.
No, my icebreaker is being that, you know, in the past few months,
okay, like nine months since we started the podcast,
do you feel as though now that you read like multiple genres,
do you think that you could read two books at once?
or are you like a one, one out of time kind of girly?
I am a one at a time kind of girly.
Really? Okay.
Yes.
Yeah.
It's like I wouldn't watch two TV shows at the same time really either.
Like if they're, especially if they're similar.
Why is this making you laugh?
Because you're so different.
Like the one thing we don't have in common right now.
I'm just like all over the place.
Yeah.
But I'm also like, I don't know.
The difference is I can.
can listen to nonfiction and read a fiction book. So that is my caveat. Okay. See, I was doing like a
thriller and a male male romance at the same time. But today when I was like, I really want to pick up
this Christina Lauren book. I'm just going to like dip my toes in it, see what I feel. And then like when
I started to, I couldn't put it down. And I was like, now I'm reading two romances at the same time.
But need it all.
They're both so different.
Some of these books that I've been reading, I'm like, I can't read this during the day time.
Like if the sun is out.
You're like, mom walks by.
And you're like, oh, hey.
That's so funny that you say that too, because, like, my dad, like, said, like, good night to me last night.
And I was, like, in the middle of, like, a very.
very, very intense scene.
And I, like, put my Kindle, like, face, like, lap down.
I was like, oh, my God, Dad.
That is so cute.
It's something.
The most rebellious thing I ever did was try to read with a reading light under the covers.
And I remember hearing my parents walk by my door one time.
And I got so freaking scared that I, like, drop.
Why did I say freaking?
like where a censored podcast.
I got so scared that I like dropped everything and was like freaking out and they didn't
even come in and then I never tried again.
You know what I think the thing is too?
We're going to get real deep with this is like I just feel like when you're a person like
me who is like kind of in their like phase in life where they just are like I'm going to do
what I want when I want.
I'm not going to give a thought.
that like if you read that type of book that's like very steamy at night.
Yeah.
There's like apps that you can get on and find somebody that might be in the mood to try some of those things that are steamy.
You ideas.
I can't like I'm not the kind of person that's going to be going out hunting for D when I'm like picking up my morning coffee.
You know what I mean?
Right.
That's a good point.
Or like lunchtime.
nookie yeah yeah no nooky's the word but it is tonight yeah so i just like read the the dark and
twisty and romancy romancy romancy but i did read kissment during the day on sunday because it was
that good well it was just so much more than some of the other things that i've been reading not to
not them or anything but like they're like you know let's enjoy some of the things that
and the honeymoon phase and like this kismet was just like an odyssey of oh wow angst and love and
yeah sex life every part in the book is just so cinematic oh i love that you're gonna love it
there's another kismet too i because like when you first started telling me you're reading it i thought
it was one that i keep seeing everywhere but it's not male male and it's like a super cartoon cover
There are a bunch of kismets floating around right now.
Oh, well, I'm sorry to that book, but there's only room for one kismet in my life.
In your life.
Becky Chalston, for anyone who's dying to know the third one.
It's a rom-com.
You have to read our kismets first.
Definitely.
We can't verify this one.
Well, it's funny because I was joking with you last week.
How about like how like these romances that I'm reading,
they're just so, so good that, like, I'm like, I don't know if I'll ever be able to read a straight romance ever again.
I don't blame you.
And then I got Christina Lauren and I got Ashley Winsett and I was like, well.
Well, there's.
These two.
Yeah.
I'll read.
I know.
Ashley's the only romance I read.
Yeah.
Until Max Walker.
Yeah.
And Kismet.
That'll be my next one.
I know, because I have like this dream of you and I reading the third book club boys book together.
Oh, yeah, we should.
But I can't tell you what it's about.
Does it spill secrets or spoilers to the other books?
I don't think so.
I just want to see if you pick up on things that I picked up on when I was reading the second book.
Okay.
Because there was like a part of the book.
I was like, I wonder if that's going to be incorporated in the third book.
book. And then like the epilogue of book two, which is called Midnights Like This, is like showing you
who the main character in the third book is going to be and what the plot is going to be. So I was
like, oh my God. I don't know when it comes out, but I know that it's... Oh, it's not out yet. Okay.
The third book's not out yet. No, the third book's not out. Yeah. Midnight's like this just came out. But
like Max Walker is like a force to be reckoned with.
I think with midnights like this, he was like, here's the cover and the synopsis to
the second book club boy's book.
It'll be out in a month.
Wow.
Yeah.
Like it was like a very like short time that I had to wait.
So hopefully this summer.
Yeah.
Because there's a lot to look forward to.
There's a lot to look forward this summer.
We should talk about it.
We should. Yeah. Yeah. Do you have anything bookwise that you're looking forward to this summer?
I have in the months of June, July, and August?
Specifically those? Yeah. A lot. Like, didn't know how to pick them. Didn't know how to pick them.
What was your number?
I think I have eight.
Okay. I have seven.
Because there really are some that we might have crossover on.
Yeah.
So they're there.
But I just put them in an order.
So we'll just see.
Yeah.
So that's the topic for tonight.
If anyone didn't pick up on my like,
big up on our fun.
Mischievous.
Yeah.
We were thinking of things that we're going to look forward to this summer that
like sound like they're going to be really good and that we just can't wait to dive
into.
So do you want to kick it off?
Yeah.
Actually, I will because.
I just finished a book that comes out in June.
So it's like, I'm not excited because I've already read it,
but everyone should be excited about this one is where I'm coming from.
But I just finished,
You Can Trust Me by Wendy Heard.
It was so amazing.
Like I had seen so many authors post about loving reading this.
So I like immediately requested it on NetGalley and I'm so glad that I got it.
They're really short summary.
is Summer and Leo are two women who live out of Summer's car.
And Summer is like a really, really experienced pickpocket.
And Leo is better at kind of like running a long con on men.
And that's how they've been surviving together.
And Leo basically accidentally runs.
into a billionaire at a hotel and that's who they wanted to be their next mark.
And Summer's not there with her.
And Leo doesn't come home.
So then Summer is trying to figure out where her friend went.
And she figures out she's on his island for the weekend.
And she makes her way to the island to try to save her.
And things go wrong.
An island?
Yes.
A lot of people are comparing it to, I can't remember.
Mia and Lucia.
Okay.
Who are the girls on White Lotus?
Yes.
Or that too.
Yes.
There is.
Jeffrey Epstein.
Then you're like, well, we're more like White Lotus.
But yeah.
Yes.
The billionaire, though, you're right.
Would definitely, I mean, not as bad as Epstein, but it's that same idea of like a rich
person who owns an island can, like, get away with whatever he wants on the island.
So you're right there.
Yeah.
And then it's, I think that's who the girls in White Lotus season two who basically win the whole season.
That's also who the book has been compared to.
And that is a fantastic comparison.
When Mia sings at the piano, there's like an Elvis song, I think she sings.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
I like replayed that part like five times.
I know.
I love that.
But I can't wait to read this book now.
because of you. You're going to love it. I'm turning my book cart in case I need backup.
Well, I have a story that's a segue about two girls who are not friends. Oh, not nice. Not good.
The St. Ambrose School for Girls by Jessica Ward comes out in July. And,
it is the cover's gorgeous
Kate you're gonna die
you're gonna die
I believe it
oh wow
it's my color
I know I know
I'm gonna say this right now
everything that I picked
for my picks
they all have fucking stunning
covers oh I love that
I had not even seen this cover before
I'm so god yeah
it looks so good
it's got the you know
the school setting
campus setting I should say but whatever
But it's about a girl named Sarah, who is a new student at the St. Ambrose School for girls.
And not soon after arriving, she finds herself the target of Greta, who is a bully.
With her roommate Ellen and the sexy RA Nick on her side, Sarah hopes that she can survive Greta's torment,
basically like just kind of get through knowing that she has two people on her side.
But unfortunately, a scandal unfolds that erupts in.
someone ending up dead.
So.
The way you said it like someone ending up dead.
Someone ends up dead.
I hope it's Greta and I haven't even read the book yet.
Fucking bully.
We don't tolerate bullies here.
Yeah, fuck that shit.
But yeah, like the cover is gorgeous.
I love, love, love, a campus setting.
Oh, yeah.
And I also, like, it kind of reminds me a little of good girls live by J.T.
T. Ellison in the sense of
yeah, like, it was making me think
of that because I still want to read that
really badly. Oh my God.
Mm-hmm. There is
something in that book
that just
builds such an amazing picture
in my mind. Yeah.
And it's nothing I've ever seen before,
but like,
it's not a spoiler. It's, I guess I can
say it. Yeah. But in
J.T. Ellison's book, the
some of the faculty lived
in cottages in the woods behind the school and just like picturing this like you know like
big like wrought iron gate and you know these like little fucking demon girls that are like just
so diabolical in their uniforms and like these cottages like in the middle of the woods it's just
so like cinematic and I just absolutely love it but I want to live inbrose school for girls
like not necessarily behind a school but
in a cottage in the woods
in a cottage in the woods yeah
okay I think you're safe where you are now
we read way too many thrillers for this
have you watched the movie Hush
No
okay so there's a movie called Hush
Here
Mm-hmm yep it's your girl
I remember you talking about it
Kate Siegel from the haunting of Hill House
So you would love it because she's in it
She's an author
and she's working on her next book and she's deaf.
And a man is trying to break into her cottage in the woods that she thought was quaint and
cute and that would give her privacy.
So watch that movie and then next week.
You're trying to keep me for going to a cottage in the woods.
I don't want you to live in a cottage in the woods.
Okay.
But how about here's what I was about to follow it up with.
I've never actually been to like England or Scotland.
But any time I'm watching a TV show where it's like a cottage in like the rolling
fields of just
like grass and lavender
what about that you think that's safer
what kind of show are you watching that featuring this
well rogerchurch
so murder mystery
yeah I'm a kid
yeah and I can guarantee you the person in the cottages
okay so here's my example right
have you ever watched the holiday
with Kate Winslet and Cameron Diaz
so Kate Winslet's cottage
you know how like it shows like Cameron Diaz like
she can only take a taxi so far she has to walk.
Such a cute idea.
Like, cuddling up with Jude Law in that cottage, right?
Such a cute idea.
If that was a thriller, though, Cameron Diaz would be dead in the first 10 minutes.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't want to have to walk to the house at all.
Right.
But the man who wants to murder you when you're in your little cottage away from everything,
like, yeah.
I don't even live in a cottage, but I'm in the middle of nowhere enough that I know
how long it takes police and ambulances to get to your.
house when something happens. Right. And I just think that you're going to be, I think you're safe where you are.
I'll talk to Tyler. He doesn't want to live in the woods anyway, so.
You go to the summer warm and sunny. The only thing I could see if you did it was like if you had like a very like modern
smart house in the middle of nowhere.
Yes.
We do like that.
It's like a panic room.
Mm-hmm.
You know?
Yeah.
And yeah, like in the basement.
Yeah, I'm with you on that.
Yeah.
Or like a walk-in closet.
That's a panic room.
Yeah.
That would work too.
Yeah.
But we'll talk more about your cottage.
We will.
But speaking of creepy buildings in the woods.
There is a book coming out. I did not get this one summarized yet. So I'll be doing it on the fly.
Coming out in June called The Quiet Tenant by Clements.
Motherfucker. Did I steal one of yours? Yes. Already. And it was the one that I didn't think you were going to steal.
It was the one that we clearly we both haven't talked about it because that's what I thought too.
I was like, I don't think we've talked about this one. I think we've talked about it off air because I
I think that I was like, oh, my God, wait until you check out this cover.
Well, maybe it was you.
Who knows?
Yeah.
We talked about some books.
It sounds so good.
It sounds so good.
Basically, there's a hardworking family man on the outside.
But he's actually a kidnapper and a serial killer.
And someone is in prison just in his backyard, which is all.
on the synopsis, not a spoiler. Yep. Rachel's in his backyard. And then his wife dies and he and his daughter,
Cecilia, the fact that he has a daughter is so creepy, is forced to move. And so he has to bring Rachel
along and he's telling Cecilia that she's a family friend. What else to keep this short?
Well, basically he thinks that Rachel.
We're going to do this one together, right?
We're going to do this as a group effort.
He basically thinks that Rachel, because he's had her in this shed for five years,
he thinks that she is brainwashed enough that she wouldn't,
that she would have like Stockholm syndrome, basically.
Yeah.
And Rachel is like kind of trying to use her relationship with Celia to her advantage to
escape from him.
Nice.
I should just let you have it.
It was too perfect of a segue, though.
I was like, this is the one I don't have a summary, though.
Well, yeah, yeah.
But there's also, I guess when they move, he needs, like, a restaurant owner named Emily.
Mm-hmm.
And she starts to fall for him.
Yes, and she's a widower.
Mm-hmm.
But the thing is, so I'm going to piggyback off this because the thing that I found very
interesting with this one that I put in my notes was, let's see.
hate stole my pick um this is a story and then she couldn't even stick the landing no i love doing that
together no i'm kidding um so i put this is a story about a serial killer narrated by the three women
in his life which kind of gives me the vibes of notes on an execution i agree and um
it also is like i wonder how conflicted we're going to be about
him. Like if that's going to be a part of it, you know? Yeah. I'm very curious on like, do you mean like the
contrast between each women? I mean like is there going to be something redeeming in him like,
like Dexter-esque. Not probably not all the way as Dexter, but like if he if someone's like falling in
love with him, will we be conflicted on if he's like terrible or like kind of
good. I think what you're going to see, honestly, is my thought is Cecilia is going to be like,
oh my God, he's the best dad ever. She's going to be showing all of like the positive things about his
personality. And then you're going to have Rachel's perspective where she's like this man, however he did,
has kidnapped me and has locked me in this. And whatever torture she's going through or whatever he's
doing to her, you're going to see like a contrast between like how they view him. And then I think the
catalyst is going to be Emily when she's like, oh my God, he's so charming. He's so good looking.
He's this and that. And then as she gets closer, she'll probably be the one that's going to like find out the truth.
And you'll see like a true escalation with her perspective. That's what I'm talking for.
I thought about it. I think that would be great. I love that idea. Which is why I think you would really like these women by Ivy Pachota. It's kind of in the middle.
of the three women perspective and the multiple women perspective of notes on an execution
where there's the serial killer you don't really know much about him but it's how his crimes have
affected all of these women in Los Angeles whether it's like a victim's family member or
a woman who like fits his type of victim right so I think you would love these women I know I love
sing her down. So yeah. I'm an Ivy Pachota girl now. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Do you want to go again
since we did that one together and you have more than me? That's true. I do. Um, so, well, I can't
tell for me. I don't want to steal another one of yours, but I might. Or I don't know. I don't know.
we'll see but um a likable woman by may cob yeah i figured i like tried to start when we wouldn't have in comment
this is too funny i'm gonna fucking die if you have all six of mine oh my god that except for the st ambrose school
for girls yeah that's true i should have closed with that one
you should have just taken your turn
I know
you can't offer me the turn
but
Maycob we just
we fan girl make up over here
yeah yeah
so
Kira's mother dies
who is kind of known
as a troublemaker
and so Kira has to go back
to the kind of
like waspy
wealthy town in Texas that she came from. And did I? No, that's not why she goes back. I am, I am murdering. I am not.
I'm not all here tonight. That is not why she goes back for a friend's about.
Oh my God. Remember when I was like, I'm excited to just shift out of mindset into funds mindset.
But this is what happens.
To be fair, though, to be fair, you literally crushed a very, very, very, very large project, like 20 minutes before we started.
I did.
And I thought I really knew these books.
And I don't.
As we continue, I think we'll.
Who gives a shit?
Who cares?
I can cut it out.
Anyway.
No, you don't need to cut anything out.
People are here because they love listening to us talk and fumble over our words when it comes to thrillers.
The fact of the matter is.
you're still shouting out a book that everybody should be excited for.
And since you stole another one of mine, I'm here to be like,
it's for this.
Like help you with the synopsis.
You're like, I can walk you through this.
I can help you with this one.
It's like any of the sci-fired like action ones and I'm like,
you're on your own kid.
Dude, I, now I'm going to do a very, very random shout out,
But right before I got on here, I was on Instagram, naturally.
And I saw someone post about like the most addictive fantasy thriller they had read in a while.
And I was like, I've been looking for another one of those.
And it's called Fourth Wing by Rebecca Yarrow.
So for anyone who is in the ninth house vibe, it's getting a bunch of great reviews and came out this week.
So.
There's that random shoutout.
I got excited and I hope I'll like it because I've been wanting another one.
But it is like they write dragons and stuff.
So we'll see.
Oh.
You're like, oh, cool.
You're lucky.
You're lucky it wasn't like, I know a guy named dragon.
Oh my goodness.
This is going to be our like most packed with information episode.
or all kinds of things, not even just always information.
Anyway, back to May Cobb and her legible woman.
So Kier is invited back to town.
She left town when her mom died before,
but she's called back for a vow renewal for a frenemy.
So who knows what all of that means?
And also her hot childhood crush is.
still in town too. Jack.
But also her grandma says that she has something very important to give her.
And it has something to do with her mom's death, which is why at first I was like,
she goes back because her mom died.
So it turns out that her mom had started a memoir before she passed.
And there's just all kinds of scandalous secrets.
in it and Kira
basically is discovering more and more about
her mom that she never knew and what
actually led to her death.
I hope Jack didn't do it.
Oh my God, I know.
I honestly, I don't like that twist.
Unless it was believable.
Yeah.
May Cobb can make it believable.
She could. You're right.
I just don't want to say what my theory is
because people might be like, you read it
and fucking spoiled it. So like, I'm going to
keep, I'll tell you off, off air.
Yeah.
But yeah, that sounds so good.
Make how it never disappoints.
And it just sounds so like, I love like the idea of this rich neighborhood.
And like this woman basically is like, I'm only returning because in a wealthy neighborhood like that, even though I probably hate this person who's having their vows renewed.
I'm going back for appearances because that's what, you know, this town probably is like.
The most important thing would be like your public image and appearance.
Yeah.
Well, and the whole, not to talk about it again, but the whole scandalous memoir is also so similar to what's fun about Evelyn Hugo.
But it's like, but it's like May Cobb's Texas debutante modern version.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm just very excited to see where it goes.
I am too.
I still don't have it.
but hopefully
if not,
it comes out soon,
ish.
July 11th.
Mm-hmm.
I'm very excited for that.
Very, very, very excited for it.
I know, me too.
I don't really have a segue
other than I'm just going to go with this one
because it's one of the ones I thought
you were going to steal from me
and you already got to.
A twisted love story by Samantha Downing.
Was that on your life?
West. Yes. Oh, yeah. Good, little fucker. I just love, love, love, the twisted marriage in my lovely wife. And it sounds like this one's going to be like, oh, you like that? Like, buckle up little bookwitches, because here comes Wes and Iby, whose relationship is full up over the top fights and reconciliation.
and the back and forth needs to end soon.
But now they have a detective at their door and Wes and Ivy are forced to confront a secret they've been keeping about the night that they had their worst fight ever.
And someone ended up dead.
Naturally.
Naturally.
Most of mine are like, that's like the St. Ambrose School for Girls.
I was like, and someone ends up dead.
And then Twos and Lesser, I'm like, someone ends up dead.
May Cobb.
someone's already dead
yeah but it's really the inroads for us
yeah yeah but I'm just excited for this one because I want to know what happened in the fight
like it's giving me like War of the Roses kind of vibes
your favorite
mm-hmm
I know
you got that one too right
yeah I just got it last
week and I fucking
screamed in my kitchen.
I believe it.
I got that and
the new Vanessa Lily, which I'll be talking
about when we talk about our fall
ones, but the new Vanessa
Lily book is about like
missing and
murdered indigenous women with like an indigenous
character and I'm just so
excited to read that.
I remember but yeah.
I think you shared that. Did you share something
about it? A wild
ago or maybe I even just saw her.
Probably. Probably.
I love her. I love her.
But yeah, I'm super
pumped for Miss Samantha Downing and whatever.
I know as always. She has on her sleeve.
I always love her stuff.
My gosh, she's so good.
Yeah. This basically is
like partially a podcast
of our
just favorite authors.
Yeah.
Like a lot of our, like, favorites have, like, summer releases this year.
Oh, my God, you're right.
Because we talk about Samantha all the time and May.
Who else?
When you heard was new for me?
Not to get, like, too ahead of ourselves either, but, like, the funny thing is that I was thinking about is, like, my two favorite authors are Jessica Null and Ashley Winstead.
And both of their new books come out on October 3rd.
Their fall girl, at least.
Oh, my God.
It's going to be, like, the blind.
duo of just fucking lyrical poetic writing.
I can't wait.
I know.
Samantha Downing.
Well, another author who I've read multiple of is Rachel Housel Hall.
And she, I take it, you didn't have that one by how happy you look.
I did not have that one, but I wanted to have her on my list, but I already had seven.
and I was like, don't push it.
So I'm glad that you picked that.
Yeah.
So she has one coming out called What Never Happened.
And.
Corgous cover.
Coco is the main character.
She's just relocated to her Catalina home.
And 20 years ago, she was the sole survivor of a deadly home invasion there.
She really just wants to spend time with her aunt while she's there.
and get as far away from possible from her ex
and just do her job, which is writing obituaries,
which I don't know that I've ever read a book
or the character wrote obituaries.
So one of her best friends, childhood best friends,
Maddie owns the local paper.
So she's able to start working there.
And then she notices that there are lots of elderly people
dying on the island.
So she starts investigating
like what's been going on and none of the deaths seem to have been natural.
And then she receives her own obituary in the mail.
Oh my God.
Did you imagine?
So she basically everything gets scary and she's trying to solve it all before the serial
killer gets to her.
That's so fucking creepy.
I know.
I'm nervous about the home invasion because that's like,
my biggest fear. It is.
You're, yeah.
That's what I'm like, please don't move in again.
But that's such a creepy thing, too, for her to receive her own obituary.
Yeah.
It reminds me of, I still know what you did last summer, where they're on the island.
And Jennifer Love Hewitt's character finds a tombstone in the woods, and it has her name on it
in the year she was born, and then, like, the year that they were currently in.
Oh, that's creepy.
Yeah.
And I was like, oh, my God.
God, and she's like, I'm not going to die on this island.
If you want me come and get me.
And she survives.
That's good.
Which isn't a spoiler because they're trying to do a third.
I know you did last summer movie and she's barely in talks to be in it.
Oh, wow.
But yeah, I love Rachel Hasel Hall.
I feel like I still have PTSD from the time that I was reading one of her books and the man tried to break into my house.
So the fact that this one has a home invasion, I'm like, because I told her that story.
story. Yeah. I was like, um, toxic things, right? Yes. And there's a stalker in these toxic things.
And the main character in it, like, finds out at one point that he was in her apartment, like,
when she was not there. And I was like, oh, my God, could you imagine that's so creepy? And then I
hear like, rattle, rattle, rattle. And I'm like, what the fuck? Terrible timing. Terrible timing.
I was petrified. I'm just glad I wasn't reading like a romance. You know what I mean?
That's a good point.
I'm not like, sir, you can come in, but you have to come in.
Yes. Come on in.
You're going to wish you picked another house after this.
That would be that. Oh my gosh. Turning the tables would be pretty funny.
I know, right? Could you imagine? Yeah.
That would be such a twisted, like, porn movie.
It would.
You know how it's like the delivery pizza boy or like the fucking like plumber or something?
thing, it's like the intruder.
Now I'm gonna be like putting something in my stories and be like,
does anybody have a male-meal romance about the guy that has sex with the intruder?
I bet someone would send you plenty of them.
Holly would be like, you're seven.
She's like they all exist.
I don't know how she keeps track of them.
I know.
She has like literally like everything.
like you'd be like, I want a character in a book who like loves pot gummies.
His favorite color is lilac and like his favorite show is Grey's Anatomy.
And she's like, oh, like here's a couple right off the top of her head.
Yeah.
Like here's like multiple ones.
I'm like, holy fuck, Holly.
He just has a vault of information in her head.
A vault of information.
Now, I have.
Okay.
So my, I just realized how much I love, like, serial killers and cold case murders when I, like, made my list.
But, oh, yeah.
My next one is I did it for you by Amy Engel.
Hmm.
I haven't heard of this one.
Okay.
This is a Killing the Tea exclusive.
I want you to look up the cover right now and tell me how much fucking blown your mind is because I saw this cover.
I was like, I did it for you.
I did it for you.
by Amy Engel.
Okay.
Ooh.
I know.
That's amazing.
Oh my God.
The colors, the dripping black hair, the car, and the bottom.
I am so sold.
Oh, my God.
It's beautiful.
What it's about yet.
Well, it's going to be a fucking killer.
Greer has just returned to her hometown for the first time in over a decade when a killing in the small town resembles her sister Eliza's murder.
So the authorities think that it's a copycat killer, but Greer believes that Eliza's killer had help back then, like an accomplice.
Upon her term, she forms an unlikely ally that puts her in danger as she tries to get to the bottom as to what's really going on in her small town.
Man.
I know.
That sounds so good.
It looks so good.
Yeah.
Man.
Is that you?
What?
No.
I heard sirens.
Nope.
I have a mower in the background still.
I don't know.
I don't know if the sirens are in town or if they're in my living room because my mom is obsessed with the Chicago shows.
And it's like ambulances and fire trucks and police cars.
And she just fucking like blast it and like just has the best time ever.
So I'm just like cracking up at my adorable mother.
watching all of these Chicago shows.
When I was watching the Terminal List a few months ago,
which is like a military thriller,
um,
Tyler,
like,
woke up one morning because I was,
like,
watching it.
And you know how some shows,
like,
really just don't sound balance?
Like,
all of a sudden it's just way louder because it's an action scene.
So he,
like, woke up to,
like, gunfire and was like,
hey,
just watching some light TV this morning.
I was like, nope.
Do you ever notice that when it's like sirens or like the creepy music or whatever, it's like boom, boom, boom, boom.
Your walls are fucking shaking.
But then when there's actual dialogue and people are speaking, they're like,
you don't.
You're like, speak up.
What did you say?
I don't want to turn on subtitles.
Yeah.
Or you like crank it up and then like all of a sudden like, I don't know, a killer pops out of a closet and your window is all shatter.
or this is also similar to like when you're in the movie theater and like it's just the previews
and so you like lean over to say something to the person and like you say it really loud and then
like it cuts for like a dramatic reason and you're just like screaming in the silence basically
you're like Tyler pasta popcorn
Oh, my goodness.
Yeah, sound design, man.
Yeah, I know, right?
Too funny.
Mm-hmm.
Well, I don't have a segue for mine.
Except that you also sent me this one last week,
so I meant to get it off the bookshelf, but I did not.
Which isn't a segue.
It's just a fast.
Fun little tip.
Behind the scenes information.
too much information.
No.
The last one by Will Dean.
And I read
First Born last year by him
and was so obsessed
and I need to read his other ones still.
But this one comes out in August.
And so
Kaz is going on
a vacation with her new
love. So I'm assuming not husband,
Pete.
And so like the first night is great.
They make friends.
And then when she wakes up the next morning, he's missing.
And then she walks further out of their room and realizes that all of the cabin doors are open.
And there's absolutely no one on the ship.
And she's like the last one there.
And there's really not much more.
It's like it's the beginning of a terrifying journey where she's literally trapped.
on a boat. So I have no clue
where he's even going to take it, but I know it'll be
great. Yeah.
His books are so good.
You read Firstborn, right?
Mm-hmm.
The other ones.
Yeah, you told me I would like the other one.
I just haven't read it. The last thing to burn.
Yes. Oh, my God.
So good.
I know. And I just keep not reading it.
Yeah. I'll read it eventually.
Yeah. You'll really enjoy it
you do. So it's definitely
just like save like a list for
like when you're in like
like a reading slump or like you're like
okay the last few things I've read weren't that great
I should pick something off this list.
I should make a list for them.
I need to just make
since I am a mood reader and read more genres now
I need to just make more specific
list anyway
because like my TBR since mine's so
virtual is just like any book that I'm like want to read on good reads. So that's just like generally
like where everything is even if I don't own it. So I could probably get more specific with my
lists. Yeah. And you can still keep it like electronic by keeping it on your notes app on your phone.
That's what I do. Mine is huge. You know what I'm sorry. What I've noticed is like some people who have
physical books. Their TBR is like the physical books.
own so that's what I was trying to like distinguish. I think some people say TBR and they mean
books I already have and I'm like I just have a big no my TBR's just looks like yeah I have
pile pile like look at my romance cart it's like gonna topple over your romance card it has a whole
cart. It does. Yeah. I have my romance cart right here. And these are all stuff that I bought in the past
week. I love that. But like here's like the first, it's like I need like a bigger like romance part.
But yeah, I have, I think TVR to me is just like everything I want to read. Everything I want to read.
Yeah. That's what it is. That's just all TVR is to me. Like this is my like list and just.
That is a long list.
Like that's everything I want to read.
Like it's just like, like, my gonna never ending.
I technically crossed a thousand on mine on good reads.
Just of things that have been saved for reasons and just like not read.
Yeah.
I know.
That is terrifying.
Yeah.
That gives me anxiety.
Let's see what mine.
Well, and some of them I could probably remove because you know how sometimes like then like you go to decide if you want to read it.
And then maybe you see a review and you're like, oh yeah.
If that's what this person disliked all.
probably dislike it. So I probably could remove some, but I did see that I crossed over to
1,032 on my want to read. My want to read list is seven books. That's amazing.
Because it's all digital. I do mine. I keep like a list on my phone,
but my
Amazon
account has like
eight lists. Yes.
Yeah. I have like
Mail, mail
romances, Holly mail
mail romance recommendations. I have
a Max Walker
wish list. I have a thriller
wish list. I have a
like you're not going to get a copy
of this from the publisher so you're going to have to buy it
yourself wish list.
And I have a backlist wish list.
I love it.
And then I have a wish list of things that, like, publishers were like, we're going to send you a copy of this and I move it in that list and delete it when I get it.
So that way, like, if I don't get it by a certain time, I can be like, hey, just checking in on this.
Love it.
Every little bit counts.
Yeah.
Like a psycho.
But speaking of psychos.
Yeah, we do.
Speaking of psychos, I have a man to discuss whose name is John Allen Blue.
I don't know him.
He's a serial killer.
I believe it.
And he's in the book, Don't Forget the Girl, by Rebecca McKenna.
I remember you telling me to request it.
Oh, my God.
It sounds so good.
University of Iowa freshman Abby Hartman disappeared 12 years ago.
And now the serial killer suspected of her murder.
John Allen Blue is about to be executed, just as Abby's closest friends,
Bree and Chelsea watch Abby's memory take second place to Blue in his more extravagant crimes.
When a popular podcast makes Blue's murder the subject of their newest season,
Bree and Chelsea must reunite after being estranged for years.
Yeah, I remember you telling me to request it, and I was like,
this sounds really good.
There's so many different directions, I think, that it can go in.
And I think that's what I'm like really.
excited for is the possibility of like, I don't know. I just need to know everything. I need to know,
like, did he become a serial killer and have all these extravagant crimes? And then people are like,
oh, he probably killed Abby Hartman. Or like, what made them think that he could have possibly
killed Abby Hartman if he's a convicted serial killer when other victims have been found and she has
doesn't. Right.
Uh-huh.
And that is she a debut, or have you read her before?
I think she's a debut.
Nice. Yeah, it sounds so good. And I'm just so excited for it.
Nothing warms my heart, like a serial killer book.
There really isn't anything that does.
No, no.
Just serial killers.
Max Walker does. Max Walker is just.
Perfect.
I want Ashley Winston to write a serial killer book.
Yeah, that would be...
I bet she will.
I kind of feel like she will at some point.
I think she needs to.
Like, I feel like that's gotta be on, like, her to-do list.
She's so fascinating that she can oscillate between two such different genres.
Oh, my God, I know.
She knows what she'll do.
Yeah.
I know.
It's insane to me.
I think she'll also always be surprising us.
Yeah, she's never going to be stagnant with anything she minds.
Yeah.
So her mind is just so fucking wild.
Somehow we've gotten back to fall again.
We just can't help it.
Not even fall.
It's like the fourth Ashley Winstead thriller that we don't even know what it's going to be about.
Yeah.
I wish we could.
I kind of think it could be a serial killer thriller.
I feel like she will.
I feel like her fourth one could be
I'm gonna this is not
I do not have any inside information
but
oh shit
you're like or do I
I thought I did
she posted something in her story that she was reading a true crime book
and I was like
and she said something about like
research
but I can't remember what the book was now
and it's not there
anymore.
I didn't see it.
Because I replied to it.
I was like, ooh, tell me more.
Ooh, maybe she will.
Yeah.
Maybe you'll end up knowing.
Yeah.
Maybe I will.
I don't know.
I have another one of an author
that I've read multiple of.
It is just a long synopsis,
so I don't really have a short version of it,
but Dark Corners by Megan Golden,
which is the second Rachel Kroll book.
So the first one is the night swim,
which was so good, so good.
So this is the second one.
Ooh, and you have it.
I love the cover.
It's so cool.
It is so cool.
So there's this guy, Terrence,
who's about to be released from prison.
and he's suspected to have killed six women.
And when he's about to leave, he gets a visit from Madison,
who's a high young influencer with a huge social media following.
A few hours later, she goes missing.
And so the police think that she's been kidnapped or worse.
And are wondering.
Yes, and are wondering if the disappearance is connected to Bailey,
since he's a convicted murderer.
But also why was she even visiting him?
So they hit a wall.
They reach out to Rachel to ask for her help since she figured out that case previously.
And basically they start finding out like Madison doesn't have like any family.
They can't find any connection to her as a real person other than social media.
So she like only exists on social media.
And so Rachel goes undercover as like BuzzFeed, like a journalist for BuzzCon is what it's called.
Which is amazing.
So she's trying to basically like get into the world of influencers to be able to ask questions.
And then another woman is found with a snake tat.
to eating its tail.
So now they're freaking out and wondering if Bailey has an accomplice outside of jail.
And yeah, Rachel is forced to confront the very real dangers that lurk in the dark corners of the internet.
It sounds kind of meta.
In a like the way it'll probably, maybe not meta, maybe just satirical towards social media.
culture, but also very thrilling.
Yeah. There's a lot going on in that.
I know. I was like, I don't even know how to condense this.
That sounds so good.
I know.
I want it now. I mean, I want to read it now. When's it come out?
It comes out in August.
My request is still pending, so I've got some time, though.
I just don't like to read things too early.
Oh yeah, I don't either
Because I'm always fucking late
Um
True
True
Um
Well I guess
You know
I wonder if it's based on something
Similar that's happened
In the media
Mm-hmm
Wait
It sounds like it could be something that's similar to
Something's happening
And are you mentioning something specific?
it just sounds
wondering. Okay.
It just sounds familiar
in the sense of
I feel like
I would not be surprised
if it was based on something that's
really happened, not in the
sense of like, oh, she's writing a book
that sounds like another book that's already out.
Right, right.
Just sounds like something that, like,
okay, so my next one
is based on
disappearances that have happened in Ireland
like it's based on like loosely based on a true case.
And I want to find if there's a documentary
because I watched this really good documentary
about like a serial killer in Ireland, I think.
And it was just so fascinating.
I think it was on Netflix.
But my last one
is The Trap by Catherine Ryan Howard,
who I love.
Oh, yeah.
Another beautiful cover featuring your favorite color.
But it's basically about, I'm going to guess three women, unless there's a twist.
But it's about Nikki, who, I'm sorry, it's about Lucy, whose sister Nikki left to meet friends at a bar in Dublin and vanished.
She was the third woman to disappear.
And after a year with no leads, Lucy is basically ready to take matter.
into her own hands to figure out what happened to her sister.
Meanwhile, a woman, Angela, is a civilian paper pusher with the missing persons unit, who is dreaming
of a position with the Irish police force.
But when the case of these missing women kind of go stale, Angela puts holes on a thread
that could solve the case and also ensure that she will never, ever be an Irish police officer.
Meanwhile, there's a nameless man driving through the city with his latest victim in his backseat,
and he's ready to tell her everything right from the beginning.
It's so...
It just sounds so unique and fun.
It sounds so good.
And I just fucking love Catherine Ryan Howard.
And if there's...
If there's anybody who can write a serial killer thriller that's going to, like, completely just fucking annihilate your emotion.
it's her.
It would be her, yeah.
She's so good.
Because she's,
oh,
and her stuff is so dark.
Yeah.
So dark.
And that is one
that I absolutely need
in my life.
I'm ready for it.
Are you ready for it?
Guess I eat.
We are.
But yeah.
That's what I'm looking forward
to the most this some,
some summer.
There's so many good ones
coming out.
So many.
I'm not going to have time to do anything else this summer.
But talk to me and read.
Yep.
Work.
Oh, yeah.
You can work too.
I'll allow it.
Thanks.
Allow it.
Thank you.
I don't have any more do you have left?
You don't?
I don't.
Probably because I went twice in a row.
Oh, yeah.
Bonus one then.
You want me to pull one out?
I got one.
I got one because I want to know, did you read,
did you read a book by Joshua Molling?
I don't think so.
It's called, and there he kept her.
No, I remember you, you loved that, right?
Yes, Deputy Ben Packard.
Okay, it sounds so good.
I have an extra arc.
So if you read it and you want the second.
one, here is your copy.
I loved the first one. It definitely
kind of touches on like
the opioid
epidemic in our country.
Small town,
gay protagonist who is also a
police officer and is like sexiest fuck.
And so
the second one comes out
this summer.
It comes out June 13th and it's called
Where the Dead Sleep.
Um, basically deputy Ben Packard is called to the scene of a home invasion.
He finds a man shot in his bed.
Ben, I'm sorry, Bill Sanderson was a well-liked local who chased every money his whole life.
Leaving bad debts and broken hearts in his wake.
Everyone that Ben Packard talks to has a different story about Bill, but no one has a clear
motive for wanting him dead. So basically anyone this guy knows could be guilty or innocent.
But as the investigation begins, tragedy strikes the sheriff's department, forcing Ben Packer
to make a difficult choice about his future, step down as acting sheriff and pursue the quiet
life he came to search for, or subject himself to the scrutiny of an election for a full-time
role of sheriff, a job he's not sure if he wants.
Well, now I have to read this one before.
the first one before August.
Yeah. June.
June. I'm fine.
June 13. But yeah. So yeah.
That's nice shout out because I love
I love Joshua Mulling. He's an incredibly
kind guy. I mean, he's just like the nicest human being ever.
But his first book, man, I just
it was such a like amazing visual
of a story.
Like you could just like see everything.
Ben Packard is like sexy AF.
I know. You had me sold there.
Yeah.
You're like sexy detective. I was like, go on.
Yay.
I know.
And and I think when I cast him,
I imagined Luke Evans as Ben.
So,
there. So I mean that way,
that one comes out in June, and if people haven't read it, then you can read the first one before you dive into some of the books that we're looking for to this summer.
I have one that was on my bonus list as well.
Let's hear it, Seth.
It's June.
Zero Days by Ruth Ware, which has been compared to a blend of Mr. Mrs. Smith and the fugitive.
Ooh. Yeah.
Miss her Mrs. Smith. Wow.
Alexio.
So Jack and her husband, Gabe, are the best penetration specialist in the business.
I don't know what that's supposed to mean. I was a little surprised when I saw it.
Probably hackers.
You're right. But after I am.
I don't know. We'll see. I said you're probably right.
But after routine assignment goes horribly wrong, Jack arrives home to find her husband dead.
To add to the hoarder, the police are closing in on their suspect, her.
Suddenly on the running, quickly running out of options, Jack must decide who she can trust as she circles closer to the real killer in this unput downable and heart-pounding mystery.
I think they're more spies than hackers.
I don't know what that means.
By and hackers.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I always love Ruth Ware, so.
I'm not...
Ruth Ware doing, like, an action thrillers.
I know.
Yeah.
And, like, usually her books have, like, that very, like, gothic feeling to them.
So this will be very interesting.
I was, like, I wonder if it's going to feel different.
Yeah.
Hmm.
I'm very curious.
One comes out soon.
June.
Yeah.
Soon in June.
