Bookwild - Thrillers We're Excited to Read

Episode Date: March 2, 2023

This week, we are talking about thrillers we are excited to read!Follow us on Instagram:Gare @gareindeedreadsKate @thegirlwiththecookonthecouchBooks We Talked AboutLike a SisterNatural BeautyIf We Were VillainsSuch a Pretty SmileNo Home for KillersJust Like HomeMalibu RisingOne True LovesHow to Fall Out of Love MadlyJackalMickey7Chasing the BoogeymanThe Girl on the PorchInfiniteHideaway Get Bookwild MerchCheck Out My Stories Are My Religion SubstackCheck Out Author Social Media PackagesCheck out the Bookwild Community on PatreonCheck out the Imposter Hour Podcast with Liz and GregFollow @imbookwild on InstagramOther Co-hosts On Instagram:Gare Billings @gareindeedreadsSteph Lauer @books.in.badgerlandHalley Sutton @halleysutton25Brian Watson @readingwithbrian 

Hey guys, welcome to the Killing the Tea podcast. This is Gare and Kate. And we are going to be discussing all things, chills, thrills, and kills. Kate and I are going to be talking about our favorite books, TV shows and movies that are in the thriller or crime fiction genre, as well as some reading habits and other items related to how we met on Bookstagram that will fit in with this podcast. So, Thank you so much for joining us, and we hope that you have fun and get totally terrified. I know I have, what was it, uh, seeing, is it seeing strangers? What's the one with strangers in it? I think that's the other one. You will literally, that book is so fucking hot. You're going to feel like you're in an oven. Like, it's like scary, sexy. Do you know what I mean? Oh, I know what you mean. Like, I think we've had this conversation.

before where like if you asked like any gay man who's ever used like grinder or any like hookup app how like there've definitely been a few times where you go to meet a stranger for whatever and you're like this is a little sketchy something doesn't feel right about this this guy's kind of acting strange but like you just follow your instincts and yeah unfortunately there are some times where you're like oh my god I can't believe that guy didn't murder me. So it's like, that's how I felt about like seeing strangers when I was reading it because I was like, the sex in this is so hot and so good, but there's this like dark cloud where I'm like, something crazy is coming. And it just like reminded me of like how everybody has like a horror

story of like a grinder. Gone almost wrong. Yeah. Gone gear. Gone gear. Gone gear. Oh my goodness. We got a match today. I know. Okay, so I woke up this morning. Instead of choosing violence, I chose pink. Because I was like, I woke up and I was like, it's Tuesday. I'm going to wear this pink sweatshirt that I got at.

I bought this at a Gap outlet like two summers ago. And it's one of my favorite sweatshirts in the entire room. So comfortable. There's a place, it's like hours and hours for. from me. It's called Lake George, and they have like this outlet mall, but it's all like outdoors. It's so much fun. It's so much fun to shop there. We have a couple like that. Well, yeah, you have a little bit more around you. It's far away from us, but we do have, like, it is outdoors is what it was making me think about, like. Yeah, it's fun. Yeah. It's like fun. I won't

sit in the car, though, but I probably should because there's even like a Nike. There's like a Nike next to a gap and an old navy, I think. Yeah, there's a gap, an old navy, there's a J-Crew, but I used to be a huge J-Crew person, but then I realized that a lot of their stuff is like the same thing that it was like two or three years ago. I just change the color a little bit or something, make the stripes a little smaller. I don't know. Not your vibe.

It's not my vibe anymore. I'm an icebreaker for you. Nice. I thought of this because we always talk about how we could get so much more reading done if there weren't TikTok because you find yourself sometimes like endlessly scrolling. Yes. Which is what I was doing tonight because I just couldn't get into the book that I'm trying to read. And I was like, do I want to start a new book a half hour before we record the podcast?

out and out. So what is the last song that you had stuck in your head forever because of TikTok? Oh, because of TikTok. So, or it could be like a sound. Yeah, right now. Yeah, I do get both. Sometimes it is just the sound. But do you know who Elise Myers is on TikTok? Yes. Yes, I do. Okay. Yes, I do. So she has a song chronically cautious, something overly cautious that like kind of blew up last week. And it's very catchy. And it's about it's about feeling the need to overachieve and like letting yourself just, you know, be yourself. Yep. So of course it's in my feed, right?

Right. I was going to say like your algorithm like hit that on that. I know. And then I saw a TikTok yesterday. that was like it was one of the TikToks. I get these every now and then where it says, where it's like this song is, this sound isn't actually trending.

There are like 5,000 videos of it. It's just, it's just your algorithm. So it really is my algorithm. And I was like, cool. So I didn't know if you were going to even know who she was, but I know she is.

Yeah, she's funny. She's so inspirational and funny. Yeah. Yeah. What are we thinking? What? I want to make sure it's the same person. She has really curly hair, like short, curly black hair.

And she's very dry sense of humor? Yes, and talks about mental health a lot. Yes. I've only seen. Okay, so that's the problem with my algorithm. The videos I've seen of her have been like the very sarcastic, like, funny, dry sense of humor thing. And I haven't seen anything she's done about like taking care of your mental health. That's amazing.

I love it. Because why? Why would I take care of my mental health? Who has time for that? Why take care of your mental health when you can just complain to everyone about it? Yeah. Or get on TikTok or read- Or get on TikTok. I mean, it's no lie to anybody that like I am a huge Siza fan.

And she has a song called Kill Bill. Yes. And it's one of my favorite songs in the entire world. And there's like one part where she's like, I'm so mature. like I'm so mature, like, because she got like a therapist about like wanting to kill her ex and his new girlfriend. And people will stitch that sound and like do something like say something like minor, like be like, like, I made my coffee at home today instead of going to Starbucks and buying it. And it's like, I'm so mature.

I'm so mature. Yes. I love those. Those are the best. And that has been stuck in my head before too. And I, so I'm like cooking like dinner tonight. and like that's what made me think of it because I'm like cooking dinner and I'm like I'm so mature. I'm so mature that I'm like, I just killed my ex.

Oh my gosh. Like if anybody like ever like bugged my phone or my house and I'm singing like I just killed my ex like his new girlfriend's next. I'm just like, no, it's just Siza. She can sing about anything and I'm like, oh, it's relatable. I love her. Well, I didn't really get into folklore and evermore. Like, I just didn't really listen to them all the way. And so I just recently discovered

nobody, no crime. And Tyler heard me listening to it for the first time. And he was like, are you trying to tell me something? And I was like, no, it's just a song. I want that song to be a movie. I know. It was like Taylor wrote a thriller. I want Taylor Swift to direct it. Yeah. And I want like Samantha Downing or Jamie Lynn Hendricks to write the script. I just want like Victoria Pedretti in it Yep And then like the The new girlfriend

Yep I want like a trashy like Margo Robbie Yeah Like teased hair Blue eye shadow Daisy Dukes being like At the Olive Garden

With a glass of $3 red wine causing a scene Yep That's all I want in life. Amazing. There are like so many little details like Olive Garden in the song. And you're like, she wrote a book almost. You're like, I see all of these things happening.

The new tires on the truck would be like so like, I just picture like somebody outside in this like like not even like gravel driveway. I saw it in like a small town like with like some house where there's like a bunch of trees around it. yeah and like not even like a real driveway i don't know how to say it yeah not paved not yeah i was about to say like gravel or dirt gravel or dirt or like one of those driveways that like just you keep pulling into the same place over and over again that your tire marks make like kill the grass basically and like somebody with like a flashlight or the flashlight on their phone being like oh my god these fucking tires are new That is exactly how I imagined it and I'm kind of tripping out over it.

And Taylor Swift like playing Esty. I know. That would be cool. That would be such a cool cameo because like obviously like you can't spoil a song people and if you haven't heard it, that's your own problem. But like Esty does not make it very long. So good. Nobody, no crime.

It's amazing. Like I love the way she flips the chorus every single time. Like it's so creative and clever. Oh my God. I know. It's so good. And like the Hame sisters could be like the waitresses at the Olive Garden. Yes, they have to be.

Oh my gosh. Or like one of them could be the police when it's like they think she did it. They're all like the deputies. Yeah. Oh my God. We need to send this to Taylor ASAP. Yeah. Yeah.

Like get on it. Or Taylor Swift could be the sheriff. That would be cool. Yeah. And the Hames sister would be like her deputies. I'm just bummed. didn't make a music video because like they could have just no like I figured that one of all of them would probably have one but she didn't do tons during COVID yeah I mean I guess that was a pretty smart

idea so she didn't yeah I think that's what I saw it was I guess it would look kind of shitty if you canceled your tour because of COVID and I mean she canceled it early on when she was like I know that this isn't going to work but like I guess it would have been kind of shitty if you cancel your tour and be like, I'm going to keep everybody safe during COVID and then like film like a music video with like thousands of people. Everybody in it, like a whole story. Yeah. Okay.

Well, I mean, she can make an owl, but. Yeah. Yeah. So. You had a cool idea. Yeah. Because speaking of TikTok, this is how I came up with this idea. I was scrolling through TikTok the other day and there's a gentleman on there.

His name is Baker Reeves. Yeah. I think I follow him. He does a lot of like thriller and horror recommendations, but, you know, he always does like, these are the most disturbing things I've ever read. These are the creepiest things I've ever read, you know? And it's like, sometimes I find myself in a position where, like, a thriller is like good pacing-wise, but I need something like jar of hearts that's going to, like, disturb me.

Or like pretty girls. That's like a book that he always recommends. Yeah. So he started recommending some of these like thrillers that were like, borderline thriller horror and I added a lot of them to my wish list but because I watched so many of his videos in a row I kept getting book talk like all over her and before I knew it I was like adding all of these books that have like come out within the past like few years or so and I'm like these are recent books and I need to read them and I don't know why I haven't already that's so cool that

that was kind of the inspo for it. So then I was like, what if we just, you know, talk about some books that maybe have come out recently that like, whether they came out and you weren't aware of them or you weren't in the mood for them or they just like, you were kind of overwhelmed with your TBR. Like here's some things that, you know, have came out recently that we want to dive into. Yeah. I did have a couple that like, it's not like they can. came out super recently, but I was like, it's okay.

I mean, anything within, like, to us recently as avid readers, you're probably thinking, like, a few months. Yes. And to a lot of people, it could be within five years. They're all within five years. So, you know what I mean? Like, yes. That was kind of what I landed on.

I was like, I think we just mean, like, generally recently spoken about books. That's right. Yeah. I mean, I saw like an interview where somebody was like talking about like recent thrillers and they were referencing Gone Girl. Oh, okay. So, you know, I mean to like, to us, like recent thrillers are like within the past year because we read so much. But to a lot of people, it's like they may have been reading thrillers for 30 or 40 years. So gone girls more recent for them.

You know, because it was 10 years ago. Good point. You're right. So, yeah. Of course. I love hearing it. So what was the first one that Baker Reeds made you want to read? Well, okay, so my first one I need to shout out.

Oh, okay. Go for it. There's a little bit more of an explanation with this one. It wasn't necessarily, I think there's, I think there's two that Baker Reads recommended out of my five that I picked. But the reason I want to shout this one out first is because I'm shallow. So I want to apologize to Kelly. Garrett because she had a book come out called Like a Sister. Okay. I saw reviews on it.

The plot sounds really good. I added it to my wish list. And then after adding it to my wish list, I saw that the paperback cover was different than the hard back. And the paperback cover, I like love, love. So the only reason I haven't read it yet is because I love the paperback cover more and the paperback's not out yet. Okay.

So. Oh. Red? Or is it the other one? It's not red. It's like, I think like purpleish and it has like a woman with sunglasses on the cover. Oh, nice. I love purple more than red.

So. So, but it sounds so good. And it says that it's perfect for fans of Jessica Knoll. Well, there you go. And Jessica Knoll is my home girl. I love her. Yeah, you do. Jennifer Hillier, Jessica Knoll, and Ashley Winstead.

are like my trifecta of women that I will always stick up for and rally. If there is ever a natural disaster, I am going across the country and collecting all three of them and putting them on my back to save them. You will become super gear. I would be like, you know how they say that like when like something happens scary that like people don't recognize their own strength and like people have like lifted cars and stuff? that would be me just running through the country and my pink gap sweatshirt with like Jessica Noel and Ashley Quinn said and Jennifer Hillier on my back.

That's my-believe-in. Well, Jennifer Hillier is in Canada, but I'm close to Canada, so I'll stop and scoop her up first. She'd be easy to help. I could talk to her all day about how just fucking gorgeous her hair is. So we have plenty of talking. Oh my gosh. I know. Like amazing. Yeah.

Yeah. So, like a sister by Kelly Garrett is about a story in which no one bats an eye when a black reality TV star is found dead in the Bronx, except for her estranged half-sister whose refusal to believe the official story leads her on a dangerous search for the truth. When the body of disgraced reality TV star Desiree Pierce is found on the playground in the Bronx in the morning after her 25th birthday party, the police and the media are quick to talk. declare her death an overdose. It's a tragedy certainly, but not a crime. Desiree's half-sister, Lena Scott, knows that can't be the case. A grad student at Columbia, Lena has spent the past decade for getting her own path, oh, sorry, forging her own path far from a little rusty. It took a week off. For getting it. Yeah. Forging her own path far from the spotlight, but some facts about Desiree just couldn't have changed since their childhood.

And Desiree would never travel above a 125th street. So why is no one listening to her? Despite the bitter truth that the two haven't spoken in two years, torn apart by Desire's partying and by their father, Mel, a wealthy and influential hip-hop mogul, Lena becomes determined to find justice for her sister, even if it means untangling her family's darkest secrets or ending up dead herself. That sounds so good. that sounds so fucking good. I really like reality TV in thrillers.

It's so fun. Yeah. You do? I do. I didn't know that. Right? I'm kind of fond of the idea. Yeah, yeah, I'd say.

Yeah. I do too. I do too. Because I, I'm always, Okay, I'm very happy that no one's been killed. But I'm always really shocked when there's like real world, real housewives. Whenever there's one of those situations and people are so unhinged to be popular, to be famous, to navigate some sort of idea that they want the public to have about them, I'm always surprised that somebody hasn't been really, really, really hurt. I agree.

I'm also surprised Lisa Rina isn't in prison. what sorry we were just talking over each other I said I'm also really surprised Lisa Rina isn't in prison Yeah I could definitely see her like sweating some throats Honestly I'm kind of surprised Erica Jane isn't either I mean

Okay Lisa Rina is too self-absorbed And yeah cares too much about herself that I feel like she could not, like, control herself and would kill somebody. But I also don't find her to be smart enough to hide a body. Yeah, get away with it. Erica Jane would murder somebody, like, take half of Xanax, probably have a cigarette,

and then be like, okay, I'm going to get away with this now. Like, she would be able to get away with murder. She would just pause. And then she'd be like, I can't even remember what her little, her, her whole, The Lamb Squad has some name. But she just called them up. She said, guys, you need to come over. I don't even think she would need to.

That's a good point. I think she would literally be like the first person to like steal like a saw from her neighbor and just start cutting up a body. Hiding it somewhere and then like showing up for filming the next day. Yeah. I think you're right. I think you got that down. We need to do a whole episode of like our theories on like how a housewife would

break bad. I feel like we could do a whole episode of like the things, the deuce and don'ts of reality TV and what we won't be surprised to see. Yeah. I want to read, because we always like say kind of like with like Jen Shaw and stuff, how, how like stupid some of these people are. Because if you're doing something illegal, if you're doing something you're trying to hide from the government, just. don't go on reality TV. Like, all of your secrets are going to be exposed. If you're cheating on your wife,

don't go on reality TV. Because your mistress is going to be on page six. Mm-hmm. Like, I want a book about, like, America's favorite reality star. Like, yes. Just somebody that, like, everybody loves,

like, a Chris Kardashian, something before the Kardashians were a little too overexposed. and have like somebody be like, oh my God, like this, like we love them. Like, picture like Jimmy Fallon, right? Yeah. Everybody's loved him for years. Now, what happens when you wake up in the morning and you open the paper and they say that Jimmy Fallon is a serial killer?

Yeah. And it's just been murdering people for 10 years and getting away with that. Yeah. Like, you know, it's not. It's not somebody like Lisa Rina or like. Yeah. People that, like, you just don't like. It's somebody like Jimmy Fallon.

That would be really. really weird. Fucking nuts, right? That would be so cool. I guess we need to write that book. Together. Mm-hmm. Probably.

I feel like if you and I wrote a book together, it would be like so wild and so much fun and everything. But can you imagine how many people when they were reviews would be like these characters were way too snarky? Yeah. Like every character is like bitchy, sarcastic, like blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, I'm sorry, but people with dry senses of humor who are sarcastic, they're not hanging out with Bambi. No. Close the book if you don't like it. Oh, my gosh.

Yeah. I'm a sucker for dry humor. I got a post like an email about a book from NetGalley or whatever. But the subject line was like, darkly funny, razor sharp. And I was like, you got me. You know, when like, they. say things like that. I feel like they like use that for like so many different thrillers. I know. You know? So like to me that would be like the you series by Carolyn Kepniz or look what

you made me do by Elaine Murphy. Yes. I agree. Did you read the book? And it's really funny. What? What is that? It's called natural beauty by Asian name. So I don't know how to pronounce it. um by ling ling huang i will check it out i like it so far it is it reminds me of kismit so i so that might it's very satirical so you know i love it and she literally is so i know i know we've talked about one book and we both brought up Jar of Hearts and Kissman. You're right. Unhinged.

Satire and a thriller will just, it does it for me. Yeah. I'm going to have to check it out then. Yeah, I'll let you know. I'm like not even very far in, but it's very, it's very funny in the commentary already. And like she works at a place, like they call it holistic.

is like this beauty bar that she's working at. And it's spelled like S-T-I-K. So like it like looks all cool. It has some fun vibes. So then I'll let you know how the plot actually progresses. But I hope it's good. I think I'll like it. But yeah, we've already talked about our faves.

Oh, yeah. Buddy more. Right. Some of, I have two on my list that I recently added because I got so obsessed with Ninth House and Helbin. So then I was also like just looking at that was a moment where I was like, oh my gosh, does there a whole other genre out there that I would really enjoy? So I was looking at lots of recommendations.

And you and I have talked about this one, but I don't. don't think either of us have read it, but one of the first ones that I saw that looked good was if we were villains by M.L. Rio. So Oliver Marks has just served 10 years in jail for a murder he may or may not have committed. On the day he's released, he's greeted by the man who put him in prison. Detective Colburn is retiring, but before he does, he wants to know what really happened a decade ago. Has one of seven young actors. studying Shakespeare at an elite arts college. Oliver and his friends play the same roles on stage and off,

hero, villain, tyrant, temptress, ingenue, extra. Oh, I thought it needed to say, et cetera, but an extra is a theater term. That threw me. But when the casting changes and the secondary characters usurp the stars, the plays spill dangerously over. into life and one of them is found dead. The rest face their greatest acting challenge yet,

convincing the police and themselves that they are blameless. So I'm pretty sure this one was probably recommended because of the fun, dark academia vibes of Nighthouse. And it's just like, I think it's a, it sounds like it's kind of a big cast too. So I think I'm going to try it out now. I want to try to.

The whole like, the whole Shakespeare obsessed cast intimidates me a little bit because I'm like are these all going to be like pretentious people I know that I can't stand that's why I haven't read it yet because I also don't really care about Shakespeare same but I've also read a lot of reviews

that said you don't have to give a shit about Shakespeare to enjoy the book that's what I'm hoping for I also love the plot device of having somebody who may or may not have committed a crime or when you're like, oh my God, this guy murdered somebody 10 years ago, then you find out he was innocent. Yes. I'm a big thing with that one.

Fuck me up and hop on my Kind of. I actually read two in a row like that because I read The Liars Girl and then the Perfect Marriage. Well, time didn't pass in the Perfect Marriage, but you were wondering if he did it or not. Yeah. I love the show. What can I say? I know.

It's so good. Yeah. And it's also in, in my dreams, I hold a knife. Yes, it is. And the girls are also nice here. And if we're villains is Kindle Unlimited. Oh. That's good. And that's for our Kindle list. You know what's really funny? Because I think I remember seeing it and being like, if I would have read that book, that's one of the Kindle Unlimited books I could have recommended if I would have read it by now. I think I got that same thought. I think I bought it like two or three times. And like every time I clean out my shelves, I like give it away because I'm like,

I haven't read this yet. That's funny. So I'm just going to download it on my Kindle and just call it a day. Well, it sounds good. I'm into it. Yeah. I'm into it. What else are you into?

I don't have a segue. I know. Okay. Okay. This one has the longest. synopsis. So I'm going to go with my next one. This is one of Baker-Reed's recommendations. And I'm going to go with this one. I believe this one is described as like thriller and horror-ish elements. And I'm just going to say that for this one and the other one because

somebody and I were talking today about how there were a couple of books who have been labeled as thrillers that were not by paranormal or supernatural authors. So when they got to the paranormal or supernatural or horror element, they were like really disappointed because they thought it was like a sellout. So I was going to say like this one is described as having either horror or supernatural elements. So if you read it and there's something a little unrealistic in it, then that would be why. But it is called Such a Pretty Smile by Christy. de Meester, D-E-M-E-E-S-T-E-R.

It says there's something out there that's killing. Known as the cur, he leaves no traces, save for the torn bodies of girls on the verge of becoming women who are known as troublemakers, those who refuse to conform to know their place, the girls who don't know when to shut up. In 2019, 13-year-old Lila Sawyer has secrets she can't share with anyone. Not the school psychologist, she's saying, not her father who has a new wife and a new baby, and not her mother, the infamous Carolyn Sawyer, a unique artist whose eerie sculptures made from bent twigs and crimped leaves, have made her a local celebrity.

But soon Lila feels haunted from within, terrorized by a delicious evil that shows her how to find her voice until she's punished for using it. In 2004, Carolyn Sawyer hears dogs everywhere, snarling barking, teeth snapping that no one else seems to notice. At first, she blames the phantom sounds on her insomnia and her acute stress in caring for her ailing father. But then the delusions begin to take shape, both in her waking hours and in the violent visceral sculpture she creates while in a trance-like state. Her fiancé is convinced she needs help. Her new psychiatrist waives her problem away with pills, but Carolyn's past is a dark cellar filled with repressed memories and a lurking horror

that the men around her can't understand. As past demons become a present threat, both Carolyn and Lila must chase the source of this unrelenting, oppressive power to its malignant core. Wow. That sounds intense. Yeah. It sounds messy. Mm-hmm.

It sounds gruelting. gritty. Yes. It sounds terrifying. It sounds to it sounds to me like literally like feminism meets

like Stephen King. Yeah. It definitely sounds like that. Like horror, serial killer like women who are like I will not be tamed. I will not shut up. I will not let men intimidate me. Yes.

So I want to read it. Yeah. That one sounds perfect for you. I actually thought of you as well. Because when I was like reading the synopsis, I was like, I think out of like all of my picks for tonight's episode that like this will be the one that like Kate might be like, I think I'm going to read that too. I added it to my good read shelf. It reads TBR. So it's there.

Yeah, it just sounds really good. I agree. And I like a little disturbing. I have one that is kind of about facing killers. Ooh. Yeah. And I actually saw May Cobb post about how much she loved it. And so I was like, well, I'm going to add it.

Yeah, I'm just going to add it now, too. Yeah, you might have read it. I don't know. I don't think we've talked about it. but no home for killers by E.A. Amar. I'mar. It's a long synapses too.

Yeah, it has a, the cover is really pretty. I feel like I saw it all over Instagram. And then I saw May post about it. And I was like, hmm. But it is about the chilling story of two conflicted sisters, their murdered brother and the secrets, a family hope they'd never have to face. The murder of jazz musician,

and social activist Marcus Pena doesn't come as a surprise to his estranged sisters. Melinda and Emily Pena know their controversial brother had enemies. After all, even they hadn't spoken to Marcus since their mother's funeral two years ago. Who killed Marcus? Was it someone trying to keep his latest protest song from publication? Was it the powerful and secretive uncle of his ex-girlfriend Rebecca?

Or was it one of the other women Marcus had callously abandoned? To unravel the truth, Melinda and Emily must first face their own demons. Melinda, a former social worker, suffers from PTSD, haunted by the people she failed to help and unable to maintain meaningful relationships. Emily also pushes people away, afraid she'll get hurt, and afraid they'll find out she's three strikes, a masked vigilante who violently punishes abusive men. Marcus wasn't a good man, but he was family, and it's up to his sisters to uncover his lifetime of lies in the truth of his death. So also kind of feminist sounding. She's out there beating up abusive men. I want to read that right now. Kindle Unlimited as well. Really? Yeah. They have a lot more lately because this one came out in February. It came out February 7th. It doesn't that sound so good.

I was like, this has so many things going on. I bet it's a lot of people. People are saying it's like atmospheric and all of that. Fuck. Yeah. I see a little baby moving. What? I see a little baby moving. Yeah.

Oh, my babies. He's like, he's going to listen, though. It's like books, books, box, wake me up when it's over. More book stuff. Yeah. Every fucking week, Mom. It's all you talk about. Yeah, no, that sounds so good.

And I think you and May Cobb just helped me with my little reading issue where the book I'm reading isn't just like hitting the spot like I want it to. So I might go back to it at later time and pick that up. Nice. So it's either going to be that or some divorced men club smut, smut. Mm-hmm. Maybe both. I was going to say you could do both. Could you imagine if I Marco Polo you and the mom?

morning and there's like a lit cigarette like hanging out of my hair and I look like a disaster. I'm like I didn't sleep all night. I haven't got to bed at all. Oh gosh. You're like, but it was the best night of my life. Awesome. Oh, that sounds really good. I know right.

Well, I took an hour nap today on my lunch break and like literally woke up and like didn't know what time it was, what, like, where I was going, what I was doing, where I was supposed to be. Like, I just was, like, so disoriented. I was like, oh, my God. Yeah. I needed a nap. I did not. I did not fit it in. I've been, I know I'm, like, all over the place tonight, but I just, we haven't recorded in two weeks, and I just miss your little face so much, even though we talk about Marco Polo, but whatever. I know. Like, it's like, we haven't talked to each other. Yeah. I've just been going through this, like, little like issue where I am fine in the morning and then like I get that little lull in the

afternoon and then I'm fine in the early evening but like around like eight or nine o'clock like I could go to bed but I don't because I know if I do I'm going to wake up at like five o'clock in the morning and then like 10 o'clock at night I'm like bright-eyed bushy-tailed like it's just ridiculous like I'm like this yeah that's frustrating So, but that's, I think I'm just like a night person. Yeah. But as I get older, I turn into a morning person because I like to get up in the morning and like do shit and get shit done. Yes.

So. It feels really good. Yeah. Feels really good just to wake up and be home and get your shit done that you need to do. That too. No place like home. No. No place like home.

Unless you're in a book. Unless you're in a book. Called Just Like Home by Sarah Galey. Nice. Which is another one from Baker Reeds. This one, I believe, also has horror, supernatural, paranormal elements. So don't be surprised if they pop up. But it is about a woman named Vera who gets a message saying,

come home from her mother. In spite of their long estrangement, in spite of the memories, she's come back to the home of a serial killer, back to face the love she had for her father and the bodies he buried there. Coming home is hard enough for Vera, and to make things worse, she and her mother aren't alone. A parasitic artist has moved into the guest house out back and is slowly stripping Vera's childhood for spare parts. He insists he isn't the only, or he insists he isn't the one leaving notes around the house, in her father's handwriting, but who else could it be?

There are no secrets yet undiscovered in the foundations of the notorious Crowder House. Vera must face them and find out for herself how deep the rot goes. You said this one has been compared to haunting of Hillhouse? Haunting of Hillhouse and sharp objects. Oh my gosh. And I'll be gone in the dark. I haven't read that one. It's the Michelle McNamara book.

It's the true crime one about the Golden State Killer. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, yep, okay. And the HBO turned it into a docu-series. You will fucking love the docu-series. Oh, nice. If you don't want to read the book, like, you will love the docu-series. Hmm, I'm going to add that. Yeah, yeah, you will love that.

So, but this book sounds so good. Yeah. Like, just to have this character who loves her father so much and he's a serial killer and then she comes home and like, I don't care if there's a supernatural element. Like him leaving her notes and her, like, her father's handwriting, whether it's her father or if there is a reasonable explanation for it, I don't give a shit. I'm going to binge the hell out of this. Yeah. And the cover is gorgeous and it's pink. I love that cover.

Yeah. When you started talking about it, I looked it up, and I was like, oh, my gosh, this sounds good. It looks pretty. Like, it just sounds like. Yeah. Yeah, it sounds really good. We're both going to get to it. Mm-hmm.

Actually, it's kind of the color of your sweatshirt tonight. I need to make sure I don't ruin this sweatshirt until I get that book, because it'll be a really cool book Instagram pick. It would be. Yeah, yeah. Well, I have no segue because. there's my last three don't relate to that at all. And this one definitely doesn't relate to it. But as everyone knows, I became a Taylor Jenkins read fan this year. So Malibu Rising is also on my two read lists. It's kind of a long one too. Malibu, August 1983, it's the day of Nina Riva's

annual end of summer party and anticipation is at a fever pitch. Everyone wants to be around the famous Rivas. Nina, the talented surfer and supermodel, brothers Jay and HUD won a championship surfer, the other a renowned photographer and their adored baby sister kit. Together, the siblings are a source of fascination in Malibu and the world over, especially as the offspring of legendary singer Mick Riva. The only person not looking forward to the party of the year is Nina herself, who never wanted to be the center of attention and who has also just been very publicly abandoned by her pro tennis player husband.

Oh, and maybe HUD because it is long past time to confess something to the brother from whom he's been inseparable since birth. Jay, on the other hand, is counting the minutes until nightfall when the girl he can't stop thinking about promise she'll be here. And Kit has a couple of secrets of her own, including a guest she invited without consulting anyone. By midnight, the party,

you will be completely out of control by morning the riven mansion will have gone up in flames but before the first spark in the early hours before dawn the alcohol will flow the music will play and the loves and secrets that shape this family's generations will all come bubbling to the surface it sounds so fun i'm frozen not dead oh boy it's been so long since it happens. The thing is, like, I'm, I've read Malibu Rising. I really, really enjoyed it. I think you're going to love it.

Nice. It's okay, bud. When you're reading the synopsis, I'm remembering things from the story, so I'm trying to be very stoic with my face. And when you were reading it, I was, like, looking at all of a sudden, I'm like, I think she's frozen. but I don't want to tell you because I didn't want to like interrupt you while you were like reading the synopsis. Yeah.

You're like, oh, it's going to be a long one. And it didn't seem that long until I was like, okay, don't make a facial expression at this. Don't make a facial expression about this. Like I know all these things about these like kids and everything. And then I'm like, and don't tell her she's frozen yet. And then you're like, bubble to the surface. And I'm like, sounds so good. You're frozen.

And you're all far. Yes, you will really, really enjoy Malibu Rising. I'm excited. I kind of space out my Taylor Jenkins read books between a few thrillers, but it's the next one I'm going to read. I've heard really good things about her other books that came out prior to Evelyn Hugo as well. I wanted to tell you that. One true loves, my friend Cindy says, is really good.

And it's, it is getting made. into a movie or TV show. I think everything she's fucking written has at this point. I think so. Yeah. I think everything, yeah. I know they're doing Malibu Rising. I know they're doing Evelyn Hugo and obviously Daisy Jones is coming out shortly. Yeah. So yeah.

I see what happens with Carrie Soda. I sobbed. Do you think it... Oh, yeah. I've only read Malibu Rising and Evelyn Hugo. Yeah. I can't know what made me decide. to do Carrie Soto, but I was shocked by how captivated I was by a story about a tennis player. Yeah, I feel like some people are like, the tennis was too much, I couldn't get into the story,

or they're like, I fucking loved it, I don't give a shit if there was too much tennis in it. Yeah. It's definitely going to come down to preference. I just found a book. This, I saw an interview with Gillian Flynn. And she recommended this book, and I haven't read it yet, How to Fall Out of Love Madly. And she was like, I don't ever recommend anything with love in the title,

but like this book is so good. And so I was like, I wonder where I put that. And I just saw it when we were recording. So she said it was really good. Is it like fiction? I don't know. Okay. Nice.

I don't know. Gillian Flynn, my girl. Fascinating. Yeah. Check it all. Um, well, this next one is one. I actually don't know who I saw on Instagram or whatever that recommended this. But when I read the synopsis, I was like, motherfucker, how did this not come across, like, my feet until now?

Um, it is called Jackal by Aaron E. Adams. Okay. A young black girl goes missing in the woods outside her white rust belt town, but she's not the first, and she may not be the last. It's watching. Liz is coming home reluctantly. As a black woman, Liz doesn't exactly have fond memories of Johnstown, Pennsylvania, a predominantly white town. But her best friend is getting married, so she braces herself for a weekend of awkward and passive-aggressive reunions. Liz has grown, though.

she can handle whatever awaits her. But on the day of the wedding, somewhere between dancing and dessert, the bride's daughter, Carolyn, goes missing. This is the second book I've had. I don't know if it's Carolyn or Caroline. So whatever float-tribal, I guess. Okay. And the only thing left behind is a piece of white fabric covered in blood.

It's taking. As a frantic search begins with the police combing the trees for Caroline, Liz is the only one who notices a pattern, a summer night, a missing girl, a party in the woods. She's seen this before. Keisha Woodson, the only other black girl in school, walked into the woods with a mysterious man and was later found with her chest cavity ripped open and her heart missing. Liz shudders at the thought that it could have been her, and now, with Caroline missing, it can't be a coincidence. As Liz starts to dig through the town's history, she uncovers the horrifying secret about the place she once called home. children have been going missing in these woods for years all of them black all of them girls it's your turn

with the evil in the forest creeping closer liz knows what she must do find caroline or be entirely consumed by the darkness i can't believe you hadn't i can't believe neither of us i was going to say i can't believe you haven't read this either uh-uh then that cover the cover is so cool gorgeous I'm not waiting. I'm not waiting. Like, I'm not waiting for paperback with this book. Like, I'm ordering it. I'm finding it.

Maybe I'll get it in Canada. But, like, I need this book as soon as humanly possible. It sounds so good. Yeah. Yeah. It sounds incredible. It gives me a little, like, it gives me, like, get out vibes combined with sharp objects. Yeah. Yes. So I need that.

Gives off. I agree. Yeah. Every time you record, I'm like... Fuck me, right? Exactly. I'm like, how am I going to choose the next book I read? Yeah. Yeah. It just sounds incredible. Yeah. I'm really... I'm really interested in that one. Me too.

I don't have a segue because this one is sci-fi. I kind of, with some of this, my approach too was like, just thinking of the books that like, because I'm a mood reader, I just have never been in the mood. But like I've added to my list because they've been recommended about other books. So anyway, this is a sci-fi one that I think I would like, but I just never pick it to read it, called Mickey 7 by Edward Ashton. Mickey 7 is an expendable, a disposable employee on a human expedition

sent to colonize the ice world, Niflheim. Whenever there's a mission that's too dangerous, even suicidal, the crew turns to Mickey. After one iteration dies, a new body is regenerated with most of his memories intact.

After six deaths, Mickey 7 understands the term of his deal and why it was the only colonial position unfilled when he took it. On a fairly routine scouting mission, Mickey 7 goes missing and is presumed dead. By the time he returns to the colony base, surprisingly held back by native life, Mickey 7's fate has been sealed. There's a new clone, Mickey 8, reporting for expendable duties. The idea of duplicate expendables is universally loathed, and if caught, they will likely be thrown into the recycler for protein. Mickey 7 must keep his double a secret from the rest of the colony.

Meanwhile, life on Niflheim is getting worse. The atmosphere is unsuitable for humans. Food is in short supply and terraforming is going poorly. The native species are growing curious about their new neighbors, and the curiosity has Commander Marshall very afraid. Ultimately, the survival of both life forms will come down to Mickey 7, that is, if he can just keep dying for good. I'm frozen again.

I don't know how you keep it together. Oh, boy. Who knows why I decided to get it. I don't know. I'm like a weirdo. I, when you talk, you probably notice this when you're editing, when you talk and you're reading a synopsis, I'm usually like staring off into the middle of nowhere

or like not like looking at you because like that's how I like kind of like pay attention and like try to like. Oh yeah. Do everything, you know? So like, that one you were like going on. I was like, wow, that sounds intense. Then I like looked and you were like frozen. I was like, oh boy.

All the people watching on YouTube are really going to enjoy it. It gives it. It's like they're here with us. Yeah. That sounds very interesting. It is a lot like dark matter, which also kind of deals with like multiple versions of yourself existing. So I've like had it on my list for.

while since I saw it kind of compared to dark matter, but I've never read a book that takes place in space. So I think every time I'm like, am I going to like it? But I kind of feel like I will now that I read it, the synopsis again. That's how I feel about like Anne Rice and Stephen King is like I really want to read some books by them, but I have to be in that mood where I can kind of separate myself from what I'm used to and needing that, you know. I guess I did read interview with the vampire

and the vampire list stat. I did read those in high school. I haven't read this, but I know there. She has a witch trilogy that I'm dying to read. Nice. Yeah.

I didn't know that. I think the first one's called The Witching Hour. That sounds about right. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So, but that sounds very interesting. I would love to hear your feedback and your experience about your first book in space. I know. I need to read it. I do now that I've talked about it. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe, I mean, sometimes when you talk about a book, it kind of like fuels that passion to like finally dive into it.

Yes, I agree. That's definitely what this podcast has turned into. Yeah, right. I know. books. All the books. All the books. I remember a reading experience that I, I don't want to say I didn't think I was going to like it, but I was like a little like, I wonder how this is going to work for me. Was the book Chasing the Boogie Man by Richard Chisholm. Where it was like kind of that meta. Yeah, like kind of like what they did with what Brat Easton Ellis did with the shards. So not only is there a sequel coming out to chasing the boogeyman, but there's another book by Richard Chisholmire. That's my final pick for the night. Oh my gosh, how perfect. How perf.

How perf. It has a new paperback cover, and that's how I found out about it, because he had posted about it on, I think I saw it on Twitter. I'm sure it's on Instagram as well. But, and it's called The Girl on the Port. Okay. So like the title already, I'm like, I need to know what's going on here. Yeah. So I'm going to, so I'm going to tell everyone. When the Tucker's next door neighbor mentioned someone rang their doorbell late the previous night. Sarah and Kenny Tucker checked their home security camera and discover something shocking. The doorbell ringer also visited their house and it wasn't a teenager playing a prank. But instead, a terrified. young woman with shackle hanging from her right wrist.

She anxiously pressed the doorbell again and again, glancing over her shoulder as if someone were coming for her before giving up and taking off into the dark. Almost overnight, she becomes known as the girl on the porch and she's everywhere. There are updates on all the local networks, national coverage on CNN and Fox News. For anyone who watches Fox News.

And the video goes viral on social news. media. Before long, everyone has seen the harrowing security camera footage. Kenny and Sarah figure it's only a matter of time before someone recognizes the woman, but as the days pass and no one comes forward, odd things become to transpire around the Tucker family. A man intensely watches them in a restaurant and then vanishes. Fresh footprints appear in the garden next to their house where no one should have been. A neighbor's pet is viciously killed and mutilated, and a mysterious man has started following their daughter Natalie. So, okay, we've talked about how the whole, like, doorbell camera footage thing scares the shut

out of me, which is why I don't have one. So, like, when I saw this, I was like, okay, this is something that would literally be putting me into therapy. Like, because I'm, like, okay, I know this girl's probably going to need therapy when she's found with, like, shackles and, like, terrified or whatever, like, running around in the dark. But like, I'm going to need therapy by seeing her on my fucking camera. I think so. So between that and this like viral thing about what these people are seeing and like how media plays

into it is another interesting thing to me. I'm not excited for the animal violence, but props to them for putting in the synopsis so people know. I thought the same thing. I also love. Love, love, love. when you're dealing with parents who are trying to do the most to protect their children.

I know. I do too. So when a man starts following their daughter, I'm like, this is the book for me. Like this screams. I think I'm going to order the jackal and this book tonight. I think I'm just going to order that money on something. I think you should. I want to read everything you talked about.

We can. I can. In time. We can together. We can do it. I'm just like picturing like you and I going to like Iceland for a week to like binge read these five books. So good. And stay cold and eat like Icelandic pizza.

Yes. And chocolate. I feel like maybe they have good chocolate. Maybe like Swiss chocolate is like there. I don't know. Yeah. No, I know what you mean. there's some chocolate that like even when it's like described as like milk chocolate it just

tastes like better yeah yeah now i want chocolate and cold temperatures it's starting to get humid here so oh we have a slow storm coming Friday my hair to not look this good here soon when i get sweaty that's not true you're going to have your air conditioner Yeah, I know. Your hair looks good all summer, all summer, except for when you went outside and had your Larry bangs. Yeah, yeah. Yes.

That's what I look like kind of often. I almost sent you a picture today because I, like, worked out, and I just looked like a samurai, basically. And I was like, I am going to completely transform in, like, two hours. I actually am beginning to think that there is some sort of intuition, premonition, some sort of unexplained, unsolved mystery between both of our brains because not only did we eat the most fucking random thing for dinner at the same time the other night and not know about it. Yeah.

But when I was making my dinner tonight, I went to text message you. and when I picked up my phone before I could even unlock it, I got the notification that you were Marco Poloing me. Whoa. Yeah. That is crazy. Yeah.

That is tripping. I wasn't even like responding. I was telling you something random. Right. You were just like starting a new conversation. Because all day today I was like, I'm so excited to like record with Kate. I'm super pumped for tonight.

Like I have my picks. and then like, but like I didn't have to text you or Marco Polo you that because I didn't have anything else to add to the conversation. Like I didn't have anything update for you. You know what I mean? Like to be like, oh, like this is like a good book or like, oh, like I watch something really good on TV. Like, no, I'm binging law and order. And I'm going to start watching all of the screen movies from the beginning because the new one comes out next Friday. Oh, that is a good idea. Yeah. So. Are you going to go see it in theater? I took the day off from work. Good. That's awesome. I'm making my dad.

My dad is like not excited. My mom has seen three of them with me because I've seen all the screen movies in the theater. And but like my mom's going on a cruise. So like it's just me and my dad. And I'm like, we're going to Canada. So we're going to Canada to go see it. And the only way I could convince him was a Canadian. in Whopper because he's my father's convinced that the Woppers at Burger King in Canada are better

than the ones in the U.S. They might be. They might have different food regulations. Yeah. They probably do. Yeah. So yeah. That sounds super fun.

Yep. That is. So yeah, you're psychic and intuitive. Yeah. We both are. That's probably why it happens so often. I know. The fucking cassidia fang.

That was. That scared me. like I wasn't just like oh my god like you you Marco Poling me or texting me when I'm about to text you was like not out of the norm right because we talk very often yeah but what I like was like I ate a cheese cassidia with black beans and corn and the only reason I had that is because I had leftovers from making burritos and I had leftover corn and black beans and I was like I'm just going to make a cassidia my tortillas won't go bad whatever Yep. But I was like eating it and I was like this was the best thing in the entire world. Like it hit the spot. It was so good. And I texted you and said that I had that for dinner and you were like I had it for dinner too. Yeah. So trippy. I used to eat it in college a lot. And I just like refixated on it like the day before you texted me. So I had it like two days in a row and you texted me and I was like, what is going on?

No, because I've had like veggie, casidias, veggie burritos. I've never gone anywhere and had just black beans and corn. No, I don't think, you're right. I haven't gone anywhere and just had that combo. But I've had it before in a casidia and like been like, oh my God, that's so good. It's a really good combination. Yeah, with like a shitload of hot sauce. Mm, yes.

There's like a, you have like a street taco sauce that's really good. I'm a Chalula guy. Yeah, we have that too. But we found something recently that was like, I don't know, not to look. Yeah. Everyone out there, though, if you want cheap, easy to make comfort food. With extra protein. With extra protein.

And you get good fiber with the beans. Yeah. Well, beans are good protein, too. They're both. Yeah. Yeah. So we're just literally helping your health. We're so healthy. This isn't how a health podcast.

Eat your being cassidia and then scare the shit out of yourself with these awesome books. Yes. Yeah. So I have one last book that would maybe scare the shit out of you after you eat our signature cassidia. Yeah. And that is Infinite by Brian Freeman. One rainy night, I was like, am I frozen? No. I'm just excited.

I heard Brian Freeman and I'm excited because he always makes me think of like the blossoming of our friendship. I know, me too. And I have a bunch of his that like I know that like when I'm in a Brian Freeman mood, like, oh, go read that. And this is one that I haven't read yet. So one rainy night, the unthinkable happens. Dylan Morin's car plunges off the road into a raging river, his beautiful wife drowning as he struggles to shore. In the aftermath through his grief, Dylan experiences sudden strange visions. Wherever he goes, he's haunted by glimpses of himself. Dylan initially chocks it up to trauma,

but that changes when he runs into a psychiatrist who claims he's her patient. She says he has been undergoing a unique hypnotherapy treatment built on the idea that with every choice, he creates an infinite number of parallel universes. Now those parallel universes are unlocked and Dylan's doppelganger has staked a claim to his world. This is like Mickey 7 too. Like wait, there's a theme. Can Dylan use these alternate realities to get a second chance at the life that was

stolen from him or will he lose himself to himself? Dun dun dun dun dun. I have a thing for multiple realities. Yeah. Yeah, you do. That sounds really cool. I know. Have you ever read Dean?

Have you ever read Dean Coons? Some, but not, because he has a lot, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I have not read everything. There's one. Okay, so everybody who's a Dean Coons fan is going to come from me for this, but I don't give a shit, okay?

Yeah, you want to. There's a movie that I watched. It was one of those movies that I like snuck behind my parents back and watched it when I was little and I definitely not should not have. It's called Hideaway with Jeff Goldblum in it and Alicia Silverstone. And it's like this guy who's like driving at night, Jeff Goldblum, and he goes off the road and they get into a car accident and he's taken to the hospital and he dies. But they revive him. So they're like, you were dead for like a minute or so. But since they revive him, he starts to notice he's like different and he starts having weird visions of a serial killer.

Whoa. And Alicia Silverstone is his daughter. And like one at one point he starts to have, and this isn't a spoiler because it's in the trailer. But like at one point he has like a vision like from the serial killer's point of view and sees his own daughter. and I've always wanted to read that book because I really like I liked the movie but everybody who's a Dean Coons fan was like that movie fucking sucks but I really liked it for how entertaining it was and so now I really want to read the book. Now I want to read the book madding it. I think we should read the book together because if it's like science fictiony you could be like my science fiction like baby Yoda. and just guide me where I need to go.

Yeah, I'll be like, what the fuck is it of this? In this situation. Okay. I'll take it. Can I call you daddy? You can if you want to. Oh, my gosh. That's the other, what is the song?

Imagine you're on the phone. You're like, it's daddy and Tyler's like, what the fuck are you talking about? What is it happening? It's like, why is why is what are calling you daddy? Yeah. Okay. One trip and out gears calling you daddy. That's another TikTok sound that gets in my head, though, is the

the song that everyone uses on all their Pedro Pascal. And it's, I don't know what the song's called at the moment. There's a lot of them that I've downloaded because I, like, love. Yeah. Them. He's amazing. Are you watching The Last of Us?

I don't think you are. Not yet. Okay. I'm in. a very so my mom is my TV partner like I love watching movies and TV shows with her she's going on a cruise and she leads this Friday so in like a few days she's going on a cruise and the only thing is I can't start anything new because I don't want to start something new and have her gone for two weeks and then be like and then be like well I'm stuck and I can't like keep going you know

Yes. So we've just been watching. I caught up on the Real Houseways of Potomac. And I've been watching. Have you watched this season yet? No. Like the season up. No, I haven't watched any of it.

You've never watched any Potomac? Oh, no, no, no, no, just this season. I haven't watched. Oh, you're going to like it. It's really good. It's infuriating, but it's good. The reunion's very good so far. Oh, their reunions are very good.

good. Yeah, Potomac's my favorite. It's my number one. Yeah. I love them. So I watch Potomac, Law & Order SVU. Yes. And then I top it off with an old episode of Roseanne and then I go to bed. That's what I thought. I was like, I think he's still, he's in a Rosian phase. I just cried me. For bedtime. Yeah, I want to laugh a little bit. Abbott Elementary. Okay. For bedtime. It's really, it's really, really funny. It is way funnier than I expected. Like, we were just kind of like, oh, nice, something like 30 minutes and just like honey. And like, sometimes we laugh pretty hard and then we're not asleep. Well, I love this little TV corner because I've been meaning to tell you while I'm like riding solo TV

wise when my mom's on her cruise, I'm going to be, I think, diving into insecure because of your recommendation. You, I feel like you're really going to enjoy it. I love Also And JRLS Oh my gosh Well the whole cast is just gorgeous And I love her friend

Yes She has a friend I don't know who the friend is But she plays like the principal And loves Simon Okay Is it I think I know the character

I saw her in a TikTok Where she was faking a British accent Okay Um Is it Yvonne Orgy? Ma'am? I don't know.

Yvonne. It is a beautiful cast of people, though. It's not her. I feel like you would like Kendrick Samson a lot. I fucking love Kendrick Samson. I didn't know he was in that. Yeah. I became an immediate fan

when he was introduced. He's in 20 of the episodes. I think it's Nattaic. Rosha Rothwell. Oh, nice. She plays Kelly. Kelly. She's also a writer on the show.

I think a few of them do. So that's what I'm going to dive into because of your recommendation. And then I also have a Kate Corner because there's a show that I started watching that I kind of feel like you would be into because it reminds me. of us. It's like funny, quirky, and a little drama. But have you watched sex education? I haven't. With Gillian Anderson? No, I haven't seen it. So the brief synopsis is this kid who's like kind of a wallflower, but his mother played by Gillian Anderson is a sex therapist. And And he finds himself in a position where he's giving like relationship and sex advice to two of like his fellow high school students. And they're like, oh my God, you fixed us.

So then he starts like kind of being like paid in cash like sex therapist to all of these high school students. And it is so funny. It is so witty. And I'm really, really enjoying it. And I also feel like it's something that you would really, really like. Yes. I remember hearing that synops or like whatever, seeing a summary of it. Yeah.

And thinking, I was like, that isn't the night. The cool thing is it's actually a very unique premise. Yes. It's not anything played out premise-wise. And I was like, well, need to add that. It's kind of one of those things where you were talking about how some shows are episodic and some have like an arc that goes across the season. and this is like a very good combination of both. Oh, that's cool.

So I think you would be really into it. Yeah. And also, there's a lot of comedy. And also, if you're a little pervert, there's a huge, huge, huge dick in like one of the first few episodes. Oh, my gosh. Like, there's this guy that they're like,

he has the biggest dick in the entire world. And he, like, is sick of people talking about him. He jumps on a table in the cafeteria and like rips his pants down. Damn. You know what I was not prepared for and you was a large dead dick that they had on screen. That was, I was shocked. I was like, whoa. Was not planning on that.

I was not planning on that either. I was like, okay. I will say, no, I'm not saying anymore at this time. refuse to comment. I plead the fifth. Oh my goodness. So books, dicks, and TV recommendations. To know what surprise.

That's all you're getting.