Boonta Vista - EPISODE 107: Gotta Turn Both Ways

Episode Date: July 16, 2019

We're off to the races (in Alabama) as we attempt to assess the threat of a hypothetical violent left, diagnose people climbing Uluru as "shitty" and take in another edition of Planely Speaking. *** Support our show and get exclusive bonus episodes by subscribing on Patreon: www.patreon.com/BoontaVista *** Merchandise available at: boontavista.com/merchandise *** Twitter: twitter.com/boontavista iTunes: tinyurl.com/y8d5aenm Spotify: spoti.fi/2DBCXGA Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/s?fid=144888&refid=stpr Pocket Casts: pca.st/SPZB RSS: tinyurl.com/kq84ddb

Welcome to Buntavista, episode 107. I'm Andrew and I'm here at the Talladega Super Speedway in Lincoln, Alabama. That's right. We're at the Geico around here in the hot sun extremely burned deeply red and holding two cups of beer as Ben. Hi Ben. Hey, you know what? what? I'm got a reeling a little. Just the knowledge that the Taladaga Super Speedway is in Alabama has completely changed my perception of the knowledge that the Talladagher Super Speedway is in Alabama has completely changed my perception of the film Talladagg Nights. Yeah, I just...

In what way? I didn't, I didn't really get Alabama vibes from that film. that's what you're going to be pondering for the rest of the, I assume 200. That's what you're going to be pondering for the rest of the, I assume 200-a-a-a, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I feel, uh, having a long hard think about this. That's what you're going to be pondering for the rest of the, I assume, 200 hours that this raise goes for. Yeah, absolutely. Wow. Hedy stuff.

Yeah. And, uh, sitting on my other side with one of those funny hats that is also an umbrella, you know, the ones. She's thought a little harder about her, thi-a due to her many years as a Goth. It's Lucy. Oh boy, it's me. Is this a paid partnership now? And we partnered with Monster Energy? God I wish. That would be amazing. Theo couldn't drink it because of his heart. I feel like Lucy as a gamer, you're never that far away from developing like a huge monster energy habit. There is a good monster energy drink. I don't think that's true. Which one? I don't know if they have it in Australia. There's like a no-carb one, but for some reason it's delicious. Is it the white can?

It's the white can. I feel like I keep seeing pictures of Americans very non-ironically drinking. Yeah, the white can of monster energy turn. That's, I don't know if what the pattern is here, but the zero carb red bull also not a terrible. It's like the least bad tasting of all of them. Do you mean the sugar-free one or is this different? That's different. So there's the sugar-free one which is the weird kind of sickly pale blue on the can and then there's the zero carb one which was a much flatter blue than the regular can. It's the darkest of the trio. Interesting. Because I will defend sugar-free redball. I'm sure you would. Because well it, it just, of all of the sugar-free slash diet things, most of which are generally very abysmal, the only difference between that and say, like, like, I drank some like, no sugar, coke yesterday,

whatever the fucking terrible name is, coke, no, no, now there's, there's coke, there's dite coke, there's a cc, the the the their their their their their name is, Coke no sugar, just rolls off the tongue. Is it not Coke zero? No, well, now there's Coke, there's Diet Coke, there's Coke zero and there is Coke no sugar. What the fuck? That's the one, that's the one, the zero element of Coke zero? Is it zero sugar? Yes, it is. But the problem is that Coke zero has essentially become, I thol. thol. thol. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. thu. the the thi. thi. the thi. the thi. thi, the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, th. thi. thi. the the the the the the the the thi. the the thi. the thi. thi. thi. thi. tho tho tho tho that tho too, to, to, to, there's coke, there's coke, there's, there's, there's is that Coke Zero has essentially become, I believe, the Pepsi Max of the Coke family, where it's meant to be zero sugar, maximum taste. But everyone's like, this tastes weird and not like the other things.

But yeah, I was having lunch with my parents yesterday and my mom was like, hey, there's a bottle of Coke, no sugar in the fridge. I don't want that shit, can someone else please drink it? I don't know how she wound up with it, possibly the deceptive branding. But yeah, I drank a glass of it and I was like, hmm, it's like coke, but someone's just taken that good edge off it. It's like coke, but not so enjoyable. It's about the difference.

But, by comparison to all those other things, a sugar-free redball is a redball with like the sickly sweet edge taken off it. Which if you're just trying to, you know, if you're just driving a truck all night, as I frequently am, obviously, and you're trying to pound some red balls. They're really fucking sweet. They're like painfully sweet. Yeah, just get the monster. I urge everyone to get the white monster can. Do you know what the flavor is?

Can you tell us what the flavor is? I wouldn't have any idea how to describe it. No, no, I mean, like what's it actually called? What is it what is the name on the label? I think it's just called like low carb. I don't know if it has a name. It's got a name on. So here we are sponsored by a monster energy drink with a long long diatrap. Apparently there's a whole bunch of monster can. A whole bunch of low-car. Monster energy zero ultra. And that is the flavor. It is zero ultra.. I I I. I. I. It's. I. I. It's. It's. I. It's. I. I. It's. I. It's. I. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's a the the the the the the the the the th. It's like. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's that's that's that's that's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. I I. It's. I. It's th. I th. I th. It's th. It's th. It's got th. I th. It's got th. I the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. Zero Ultra. That is the flavor. It is Zero Ultra flavor.

Zero Ultra. I love one of the drink. That's like a fucking one of those hushed up 1970s CIA programs where they gave psychedelics to people that they had at black sites. Pretty much. Zero ultra. Pretty much. Yeah. I mean, who doesn't love to just taste or smell something and be taken back to their childhood when their mother would put a zero ultra pie on

the windowsill? Love to be out in the fields, just picking zero ultra straight off the bushes and eating it. Mmm. Love those delicious and natural flavors. Oh geez everybody. I don't know where to go from being at the Geico 500 and I don't know how to segue away from here. Oh I've got it. I've got it. Oh no I don't know which direction they drive. I should just look at the field that we're actually definitely at. But let's say, which way do they go around the track do you think, Ben? Clockwise or counterclockwise? Oh, I don't know. I reckon it's clockwise, right? I reckon it's clockwise. Oh, Godda. Wait, hang on which Americans drive on the

they're in the left-hand side of the car. Which side would you want to be on for turning purposes? Well they're not really turning they're just driving in one big gentle circle. Well you can't do a circle without turning. Yeah but it's not like they ever take a turn like no one ever like puts on the indicator it slows down it's not that kind of race. I'm gonna say they're going I think you're right I think it is counterclockwise. Hmm almost like one big left turn I'll tell you who's taking a big right turn. Oh. Oh.

It's... Thank you for helping me get there. Thank you for helping me work. Thank you for helping me painfully work towards that. Real coin flip of how that could go on. Just kicking and screaming towards that segue. Taking a big right turn over at our friends at the ABC. Let's just have a big shout out to Ida Butrose

for her new editorial leadership. Because as we all know, she was appointed as the new chair of the ABC. Can I just say I to Buttose once? It tasted horrible. Oh! Oh! Oh! Sounds a little too close to Rose Bud to me, which makes me shudder. Oh, don't.

Let's moving on. No Googling that one, folks. So really puts a different spin on Citizen Kane. So anyway, over at the ABC, Haida Butros has been appointed because as we all know, basically the conservative government is always having a great big culture war fit about what they see as the ABC's left-leaning bias because they do things like, say,

this is what the government is currently doing. You can't do that. You can't do that on TV. That's biased. I can't stop and say it. So you know they're forced into a lot of classic editorial balance which I think is most frequently manifested on their is a Sunday night TV show Q&A? Which seems to have lost any and all semblance of being like an actual kind of panel show and has just turned into like bad, bad electoral gladiator contest between the just the shitest people they can find. It's not good. Like it does seem like that though doesn't it that they've they've pretty much gone. What's who who could we get on here that's going to make to be the the the to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make their their their their their their their their their their their their their th th th th th th th th th th th their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to be to be to be their. to be their. their. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. though, doesn't it? That they've pretty much gone.

What's, who, who could we get on here that's going to make people the maddest? It definitely seems to be an element of that and I don't, I don't know. I didn't, it's been shit the time, in the time being that I've had to like watch it for work, which is like now, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. now like three and a half years. It's been fucking horrible and I don't know if it was not as horrible before that. It's just not good. It's just very confrontational in a way that is not at all productive. People really, you can see, try and prepare like good single-sentence sound bites months in advance, so they'll like drop out these things that sound like a burn, but they don't quite fit the situation. It's a very frustrating thing to do.

So now I just don't watch it and then don't write about it and then hope that work never brings it up with me even though I'm supposed to. That's the ideal situation really, isn't it? So in the classic mold of having some balance, I saw an article go up yesterday on ABC News, on the website, titled, the alt right has been under the media spotlight, but should we be concerned about the, scare quotes, alt left? Nope.

Man, there we go. Done. I love a question, like, I love an article that opens, asks, there we go. Done. I love an article that opens as a question. And then pretty much proceeds through the entire article to just give you variations on saying I didn't need to write this article. For example, you know how the ABC now has like a little, they've got a little box pulled out that has like the key points of the thing? In case you're just way too busy to read a 200 word article or whatever, you can skim the bullet points and say, now I've read it.

So they have their one on the top, three bullet points. The term, alt-left was popularized by Donald Trump after the 2017 rally in Charlottesville, so great good faith origins of the term, to begin with. Two militant far left groups have gained traction in the US since Mr. Trump was elected. And number three, experts say far right movements are more likely to use violence to achieve their aims. Hmm. I wonder if there's a reason that they're considered more likely to use violence.

Is it anything to do with all of the recorded instances of violence and murder and mass killings that all happen under the auspices of one ideology? Who could say? So anyway, it kicks off with the rise of the alt-right has been one of the defining political moments of the past decade. Movements, sorry, very similar words. But comparatively less known is its supposed counterpart, the alt-left. Straightaway, we are on shaky ground in the first sentence. The alt-right have been called many things, neo-Nazis, racist, beliefs which are seen as a departure

from mainstream values. Probably not enough of a departure. Departure from mainstream values, that is an incredible way to phrase that. And seen as, seen as those things. The only, the really depressing only way that that sense makes sense is to just admit that like how much more, how much more of a real and defining undercurrent of most Western politics white supremacy is. So you know, some people think that it's not actually what lots of people believe.

The movement has also been placed under the media spotlight due to the extreme views it expresses in Internet forum echo chambers and its role in sparing incidents including the Christchurch shootings, which has taken much of the focus away from a discussion of the extreme opposite end of the political spectrum. Isn't it weird that you would talk about the thing that's happening rather than the the the that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th th that th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the media that is is that is is that is that's the media media media media media the media the media the media the media the media the media the media the media the media the media the media the media the media the media the media the media the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi thi.eeeeeeeeeat thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the thi. Isn't it weird that um... It's weird that you would talk about the thing that's happening rather than the thing that isn't happening. Yeah, like how how weird that all of the mass killings done by neo-Nazis are the only thing? People refuse to talk about like what if maybe someone on the left did that even though they didn't. It's just like again we're only like three sentences into this piece.

We're already like, hey how come nobody's talking about the thing that's not happening? President Donald Trump helped popularize the term left after the 2017 unite the right rally in Charlottesville where he blamed the violence from people on both sides. You had a group on one side that was bad and you had a group on the other side that was very violent and nobody wants to say it but I will, Mr. Trump told reporters, what about the alt left that came charging at the as you say the alt right? Do they have any semblance of guilt? Hard to believe you use the word semblance. Yeah, I agree. I completely agree.

Unlike the far right and the alt right, the far left do not call or associate themselves with the term alt left. I wonder if that's because it's not a thing. Maybe. Also I would dispute that anybody calls themselves alt right? Like, yeah. I mean, it was originally a self-identifying term, like before the media picked up with it and then they all started being like,

how dare you call us this? But it was started as like a positive identification. They were trying to rebrand themselves as an alternative to traditional conservatism. Yeah, but I feel like it, I feel like it immediately, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, they, like, like, they, their, their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they, they, they, the rebrand themselves as an alternative to traditional conservatism. Yeah, but I feel like it, I feel like it immediately, like almost immediately became like emo. You know, nobody calls them, they are. You know you're emo. Yes, Lucy, you know you are. Everybody else knows you are, but you don't call yourself that and everybody else has started using it as a majority. You know?

That's right. That's it. The emos of the political world, the old right. So yeah, I think it almost immediately became that where, because like we all know that so much of the far right grift these days is all about like plausible deniability and seeing how much you can like walk up to the edge of something before then saying, oh, that's not what I meant and that's not what we're all about. And I mean, you've only got to look at people like, I guess, former proud boys leader,

Gavin McInnes, like the moment that it finally crossed over into the mainstream that that group were a bunch of violent thugs, he was like, oh, I'm not their leader anymore. That's not what we're all about, even though there's thousands of hours of footage of me, like braying proudly about how awesome it is to go and deliberately get into fights and starting violence is like one of the rights of passage for getting into the group and all that sort of shit. Yeah, it just seems like a huge part of all of these movements is doing exactly these

things right until the point that the public goes, hey, what's this group all about? and then they say, oh no, no, no, I'm not that group. I. I. I. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm these things right until the point that the public goes, hey, what's this group all about? And then they say, oh, no, no, no, I'm not that group. I'm not that one. Anyway, so the left, however, also have a history of violence, and the prospect of a militant left actively fighting its ideological opposite is not far removed from history. The Revolutionary Armed Forces of Columbia, Shining Path and the 19th of April movement, were involved in bloody conflicts in South America in the 1970s. So not far removed, just about 50 years.

Only 50 years and only in a different part of the world and only in a completely different situation. So temporarily, geographically, politically removed, but not far. Not too far. A stones throw, if you will. While the Red Army faction carried out a series of terrorist attacks in the 1970s, and remained active for more than 20 years. So again, nothing remotely comparable to what is actually happening in contemporary society at this moment. So that's cool. The old recent far left of the 1970s.

However, whether we'll see the resurgence of a military far left to the rising far right a military far left to counter the rising far right remains to be seen. Cool. So there isn't what. Tremendous insights you have provided with this article. Wonderful. So we've gone from, how come nobody's talking 50 years ago, to there isn't this.

In the space of several paragraphs. So then we get a little bit into the term alt-right, an abbreviation of alternative right, is claimed to have been coined by American white supremacist Richard Spencer, very brave of them to call him a white supremacist. Good on him. While the term is ill-defined, it's commonly associated with anti-feminism and a belief in xenophobic nationalistic politics, including anti-immigration policies. Mr. Spencer is an advocate of peaceful ethnic cleansing of non-white Americans, but claims he is not a neo-Nazi. The term alt-left is arguably even more contested.

But a study by the European University Institute published in February debunked the theory that the term is used to describe movements opposing the alt-right. Based on an analysis of social media content and more than a million online forums connected to both sides, the study concluded that the alt-left is an artificial construct by Mr. Trump's supporters in an attempt to create an equal counterpart to the alt-right. Again, why did this get written and put on our website? We gotta do something to fill in the time, I guess. How have we, like, how do we get from, should we be concerned about the alt-left, to as we get down, we are getting further and further away from the concept, even existing, all the way down to a study of a million forums and all these people have identified it clearly as an artificial construct,

completely fabricated by the people that you're taking the attention off by writing this article. Are we going to talk about milkshakes? Concrete milkshakes? Deadly concrete milkshakes. Well I like this though. Steve Fuller, professor, professor in social epistemology at the University of Warwick in England, told the ABC that the term has been used pejoratively by alt-right members against antifa particularly through far-right media organizations like Bright Bart so again completely created and only propagated by the alt-right movement itself. He said while the alt-left have been styled as social justice warriors

a characterization that captures some visible and vocal members of the left it was not fully representative of who they are. he the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th. He the a the. Heaught right th. Heaught right th. Heaught th th. Heaught me th. Heaught members by th. Heaught members by th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the te te te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. tea tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. te some visible and vocal members of the left, it was not fully representative of who they are. He says, the alt-right wants the alt-left to appear as socially dysfunctional, he said, adding that the construction of the alt-left is designed to deflect attention from the alt-rides' violence. Huh? It's interesting. Now this, personally, is the end of the thing and my favorite part of it. While the far left is not as prominent as the old right, or, you know, barely existent

as we're establishing here, Mr. Fuller said it has also sometimes been responsible for aggressive and violent behavior, especially in the form of censorship, including the no-platforming campaign, which is seen as a type of quote-unquote, symbolic violence. Oh boy. Fuck the house. What the fuck? That's just like killing people, you know, it's the same thing. It's very much the same. Symbolic violence

running someone over with your car and killing them. These are the same thing to me. Asking companies to stop advertising on Tucker Carlson's show, going into a synagogue and killing like two dozen people pretty much the same. I think we can all agree. My God, so congratulations to the ABC on publishing that. Great stuff. You'll love to see it. That's true. You do love to see it. I love to know that's where taxpayer dollars is going. Yeah, I just love this whole thing of them getting like bullied by conservatives all the time into doing exactly this type of shit. And the problem is that like, who does that make happy?

Who is the audience for this? Who's read that piece and gone? Sweet. Great, I'm glad this got published. You got right wingers who read it and thiiiiiiiiiiii they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're getting they're getting they're getting they're getting they're getting they're getting they're getting they're they're they're th. they're they're they're thi. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're th. th. th. ta. ta. ta. taken ta. taken ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. theananed theaned they're they? Sweet. Great. I'm glad this got published. You got right wingers who read it and go, oh finally, finally, they're taking them on. And then as they go down and sentence after sentences, it says, ah, it's not really a thing. It's pretty much just made up by right wingers to deflect from the fact that it's them doing all the killing of people. And then you've got left left left left left left left left go, why the fuck did you even bother publishing this?

It poses a question in the headline and every sentence of the thing is saying, ah, there wasn't really a reason to write this. The centrist's, they fucking loved this. They just went, oh, I just heard both sides. Ooh, delightful. That's my kink. That's my thing. I love love thuuuuuu then thu thu thu thu thu thu, I thu, I thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thin' thin' tho, thin' thin' thin' tho, tho-a' tho-a' tho-a' tho-a' tho-a' tho-a, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th, the th, th, th, th, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thin' thin' thin' thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, tho-s thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo-ink, that's my thing. I love when I hear both sides. But every now and then Ben there's a little victory. There's a little victory in the

world, you know? You're absolutely right. Would you like to describe one to us? Henceforth? I... So this is huge, and I... it's crazy that I didn't see this take off more, but a boomer, labor, Twitter broken had a victory in the courts against Malcolm Roberts. And that's never happened before. They've never done anything. So to me, this is genuinely, this is amazing. I don't know how I missed that this week either. So this happened, this is reported on Friday by 10 Daily. The headline is Malcolm Robert successfully sued for being a dual citizen in Parliament. Now hold on a second because two things.

Number one I would like to say this is written by a friend of the show 10 Daily Senior Senior News reporter. Hansen, beautiful Josh Butler. Oh in his updated headshot on 10 Daily it has the beautiful long hair that he's clearly been growing for a long time. And he looks amazing. It's an incredible picture. I have been pestering him on Twitter to update his other photos to be the same and he refuses to do it. He refuses to do it, but looking great. If you click on that head shot, you'll get a slightly larger version.

He's also, I don't want to spend too much time on his head shot, but the way he's sort of posed his head, has a very like 1980s European model look about him he's looking in the camera in a sort of here I am drink me in kind of way piercing blue eyes you know just great stuff you love to see it you know just great stuff you love to see it I'm zoomed right in it in my browser to see to see it. And I'm having a great time. So folks, if you do want to get on Twitter, Twitter.com slash Josh Butler, you can see the very, very out of date.

Very very out of date headshot that he has there. There is a link in his bio to his page on 10 daily where you can see the up-to-date one, please feel free to tweet at him and say, hey, let's get that long hair head shot going in here because it looks good. And thing number two Ben, yes, could you please, if you could, give an extremely brief explanation of the term labor-brokens to our non-Australian audience? Um, it's so it's, I think, as anyone will have seen, particularly Americans will have seen a lot of this, so as people that ostensibly maybe share similar politics to you, you know, they vote for whatever the majority left party is in your country.

They're probably a little bit on the older side. They're not a hundred percent Twitter literate or computer literate. They really love hashtags. Over here in Australia they love hashtag Ospole, which is how you make sure the dumbest people are live, see your political texts and interact with them. They love picking the single worst... see your political text and interact with them. They love picking the single worst thing to be the joke they have in their little, their username or whatever.

So, you know, in America that would be your drumps, your kaffies, you know, whatever, over here it's your Dame Sir Fright Bats. Yep. You're making fun of the sovereign citizen grammar style. What are the other ones they use? They've got like, oh, well, now that Elkham Terminal's gone, they don't do the top hat emoji anymore, that's gone. But, just the worst sort of like jokes that aren't do the top hat emoji anymore, that's gone. But just the worst sort of like jokes that aren't really jokes, sort of public domain jokes about politics that are four or five years old.

They generally have those. Badly, badly done photo memes, you know? Yeah, extremely badly done image macros with like several layers of different fonts and like sequential cascading JPEG compression just destroying your eyes when you look at it. They love retweeting things that aren't true at all. They love being armchair constitutional law experts. It's sort of, they're basically, they're exactly what right wing boomers are, but on the left.

Now this is a true both sides issue to me. I think maybe, obviously, the labor broken's are better because they're not sharing things that are meant to start a race war. But they're not, they're a strange breed. But anyway, one of their, this story is about one of their kings I believe, who has been booted off Twitter. It's a man named Tony Magrathia, which if that name is familiar to you, you probably spent a little bit too much time on Australian Twitter, but this is not about who he is, it's about what he did, which is that he successfully

sued Malcolm Roberts, just a real turd of a man for 6,000 buckaroos. And they did this under a little thing called the Common Informers Brackets Parliamentary Disqualifications Act, which according to our friend Josh is a little used piece of law which gives recourse to ordinary citizens to sue politicians who are not eligible to sit in Parliament. The Act outlines that any federal member declared by the Constitution to be incapable of so sitting shall be liable to pay any person who sues for it in the High Court. Which, yeah, it's interesting. I feel like I want some cash, but that's fine.

It sets out that the member should pay $200 in total for their ineligibility before the suit is served and another $200 for every day subsequent to to day on which he or she is proved in the suit to have sat. So he filed a suit on September 28, 2017 a month before the High Court ruled him ineligible. And then two years later, on June 14th this year, the court ordered Roberts to pay Magrather a total of $6,000, an initial $200 plus 200 for each day of the 29 days between the suit being.s th tos tos tos tos tos tos to s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s suiuiuiuioled toe tooed tooed tooed tooed to be to be to be to tooe tooom. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the suit..00.00.00.00.00.00.00. th. the suit th. the suit the suit the suit the suit the suit the suit the suit the suit the suit the suit the suit the suit the suit the suit the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. to pay Magrithea a total of $6,000, an initial 200 plus 200 for each day of the 29 days between the suit being filed and Roberts being ruled ineligible. So he got in before he was actually ruled ineligible and said, hey, mother fucker, get on out of there. This is like the true get-rich quick scheme that we've all been waiting for. You just have to anticipate that someone is going to get kicked out of Parliament. So really all of us should

have been making huge bank off Rod Culletan. Missed opportunity there. Friend of the show, bumbling nitwit with Rod Culleton. Still going, but not in Parliament. Maga 3 I told 10 Daily he had contacted several politicians with concerns about dual citizenship as early as 2014ithia told 10 Daily he had contacted several politicians with concerns about dual citizenship as early as 2014 and attempted to alert Malcolm Roberts to his potential British citizenship in 2016. The High Court's chronology of the Roberts' case listed on August 7th, 2016, Maga-3 had sent a Facebook message to the Senator's wife.

With his concerns about Robert's citizenship. Yeah. I wrote to him saying, make sure you've got rid of your British citizenship. He ignored and blocked me on social media. Were you trying to help him or what? It seems weird, doesn't it? Uh, Magathia later retained the services of a solicitor and then Sunshine Coast Barrister, Clem Van de Weegan, a one-time candidate for Cliveive Palmer's Parmah United Party in 2013.

But yeah, he did it, he really did it. He sent a letter to the Red Skull's wife. And now he's got a sweet, sweet 6G's to spend on mugs that say, um, the, the, uh, shit, the liberal party. Um, squib the libral party. Got him. Yeah, liberals. Yeah, that's a good one. Lucy, helps out here. What do you got? I've got nothing.

It's a bad, bad boomer. Didn't they used to have one on like liberal like a pun? I thought I thought I thought it was a liberal. I mean liberal is very them areas. Hmm. Uh, the, hmm. No, I guess we just don't have what it takes to be part of this movement, I think. Can any of us sue him? Can we just go swim for the same thing and get sex- No, you have to have told him beforehand. So we would have to go back in time and I don't know about you guys but if I was going to go back in time I'd kill Hitler. That's definitely what I would do with my time and that's just me. I would dome the furor of the Third Reich with an old-timey gun. And I'd say...

With a Luger, maybe? Yep. One of them, one of the Lugas, I'd straight through his skull. And I'd say something really cool to him, like, hey, Fritz, hey, like these apples. Bam! And then I'd pull out a samurai sword and the rest of the Nazi High Command. I'm talking Goring, Himmler, Rommel, all of them, shhush, I'm cutting their heads off but I'm like ducking under the blood spray. It's going through like hot butter. Yep, and then all guards come in and then I chucked the sword heads off, but I'm like ducking under the blood spray. It's going through like hot butter. Yep.

And then all guards come in. And then I chuck the sword down, I pull out two oosies that I bought with me from the future. And I've got my oosies at Kimball and I'm spraying them around. And then I throw a grenade into hitler's stockpile of weapons and i jump out the window and i say smell you later and all blows up and everyone's carrying me around on their shoulders because i stopped

all the bad stuff from happening it seems like uh... a lot of bad stuff would have already happened at that that point if that's when you get in. I feel like I might have time traveled slightly too late that I think about it. I probably should have... Did you coordinate this just to make yourself look really cool? Well I mean, I'm not gonna say that I look cool doing that, but if you think that I look cool, I mean, yeah, you're right, I should probably maybe go back to what he was like a team. I would break everybody by time traveling back and just like sending a telegram to Eva Braun and saying, hey, I'm thinking this Hitler guy is ineligible.

And then he gets disqualified from being like high chancellor or whatever. Yeah. And everybody's like, damn, look at that guy who is an armchair constitutional law expert and had the foresight. He hasn't renounced his Austrian citizenship. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's that's that's right. That's right. That's that's right. That's right. That's that's right. It's that's that's right. It's that's right. It's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's. that's that's that's that's that. that. that. that. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. It's th. It's tha. It's thi. I'm tha. I'm that's that's that's that's that's and had the foresight. He hasn't renounced his Austrian citizenship. That's right, that's right, that's how you get him. That's how you get him. Oh dear. So there you go folks.

Just proving once and for all that constantly badgering public officials by sending them and their immediate family members DM, online is not a waste of time. That is in fact activism. Email someone's wife. Yeah. Email someone's wife today. I will be the first to admit this. Making Malcolm Roberts part with $6,000 is incredible practice.

Yes, that's true. I think, um, well, I suppose what's most relevant to note about this is that it's like such a perfect encapsulation of this boomer mindset because you know that this guy is going to be crowing about this for the rest of his life. It's going to be in his Twitter bio, it's going to say, you know, won a court case against Malcolm Roberts on July 2019. But in terms of the actual effect that it that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's theuuuuuuuumememememememea theuumea theuuuuuuuumea. that's theuuuuuuuumea. that's theuuuuumea. that's theuumea. that's that's that's the of the actual effect that it had on anything, other than Malcolm Roberts having to give this guy some of his sick pension or whatever, nothing at all. Didn't change the fact that he got in, didn't change the fact that he got run, any of that sort stuff.

But, but hey, you got a little bit of a top up in the bank account and that's what real action is Matt's Praxis it's still good though we got to give him credit you got a give him credit for taking could you just like do us a solid maybe say praxis with a little bit of vocal fry on it is that certainly not come on I'm good I'm good. I'm fine. Oh dear. So from the dizzying highs of boomers,

just getting one over on Malcolm Roberts to the dizzying highs of being too high up on something that you shouldn't be. It's, it's the world of boomers continuing to be really shitty. I'm assuming that a lot of these people are going to be boomers. So a long-standing thing in Australian culture now has been the debate around people climbing Ullaru. Ullaru formerly known as Ayers Rock in the middle of the country. They still call it that here. I'm trying to tell people that you shouldn't call it that. Please stop calling it Airs Rock. It is a site with enormous spiritual significance to the to the indigenous

people here. And like, so for decades now, there's been like a sign up that says, hey, please don't climb this. I'm pretty sure that I read a thing years ago that was talking about how like, you know, why don't the owners of the land just like put a great big fence up around the thing? You know, why don't they wall it off? Build the wall.

Build the, because that's the white people's solution to this kind of stuff. And the answer was that as part of the beliefs of these particular people, it was like, well, you're supposed to just kind of tell people what the right thing to do is and then they're meant to do the right thing. You can't you can't just force everybody to do the right thing. You're meant to have a system of what is right and wrong and people are meant to do the right thing because they know that it's right thing so if we are to like say to you, hey in keeping with our spiritual beliefs about this thing that is incredibly and deeply important to us, we've asked you not to do it,

you would maybe think that some of those people would go, oh okay, I won't climb up on this thing. But apparently that makes absolutely no difference. In fact, I would say it probably has the opposite effect of turning people into even bigger pieces of shit absolutely determined to climb up. So I think they finally announced that they're going to permanently close the ability for tourists to climb Ullaru. I'm just, I'm reading now from an article on news.com. That are you. Natalie Wolf. Ullaru. October closure creates a new headache.

It's three months until the climb up Ullaru is closed for good and overwhelmingly praised move that Aboriginal traditional owners have been waiting on for decades. But there's still a long way to go before Ullaru. What? God damn it. This is what happens when you fire all the sub-editors in the country. There's still a long way to go before Ularu. All signs of the climb are dismantled and the monolith is returned to its original and natural appearance. Terrible.

A chainhold was added in 1964 and extended in 1976 to make the hour-long climb up the steep cliff easier for tourists. The chainhold was secured with 138 steel posts drilled 30 centimeters down into the rock face and secured with concrete and epoxy resin. The posts have survived storms, wind and sweltering conditions for more the 50 years and removing them is going to be a sensitive nightmare. The mammoth job advertised by Parks Australia earlier this year came with plenty of warnings. Contractors were cautioned on difficulties with going to the toilet, working

in the Northern Territory sweltering conditions and access to drinking water. In tender documents the government agency warned there was no power or portable water on Woolaroo work sites. I think did they probably portable water water water. the water water. the water the water the water potable water. We've got portable water. Most water is portable. It certainly is. Up for Theo. The rock has been scarred with painted guidelines and arrows stretching up the entirety of Ullru. The monolith also has four designated helicopter landing pads. Three of which are big enough to move equipment. I did not know that. That's cool. God damn. In October, all of it will begin to go in a job Parks Australia estimates will be finished by January 2020. In a tender submitted to the Director of Parks Australia earlier this year the government agency gave contractors a brief insight into what would be required of them if they would take on a difficult job. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

you've got to take all this stuff out. Now, the problem is that people are big pieces of shit. In November 2017, the Uluru Qatar National Park Board started the countdown of when the climb would be closed permanently. The date of October 26, 2019 was put forward, a significant day for the indigenous community because it was that day in 1985 that the government returned ownership of the land to the traditional owners. But since setting the date, the number of people climbing Ulluru has skyrocketed. Before park management announced it was closing the climb, around 140 people were climbing Ulluru each day. Since then, the number has doubled and at times tripled to 300 to 500 daily visitors.

On Wednesday, a photo taken at the base of Uluru went viral after it showed hordes of tourists snaking up the rock face. The traditional landowners say tourists are leaving rubbish bins overflowing, illegally dumping human waste from caravans along the roadside, and have made the national park the busiest they've seen it. There's cars parked for one kilometer on either side of the road leading up to the carpark at the base, an unnamed photographer who told the ABC. Traditional landowners are devastated by the masses rushing to climb Ullery before the cutoff date, despite it long being common knowledge that the act is deeply offensive.

It makes me sick looking at this photo at the disrespect and disregard shown for the traditional owners' wishes, a spokesperson from the direct custodian aboriginal corporation said, not only to people climb it, but they defecate, urinate and discard nappies and rubbish on it. I for one cannot wait for the climb to be permanently closed and our sacred law, culture and traditions to be acknowledged and respected. A sign sits at the base of the climb, the climb sits. A sign sits at the base of the climb, the climb is the clinge the clinowl. We have a responsibility to tea we ask you to respect our law and culture by not climbing Ularut. We have a responsibility to teach and safeguard visitors to our land.

The climb can be dangerous. Too many people have died while attempting to climb Ullaru. At least 30 people, 35 people have died while attempting to climb Ullaru. And many others have been injured. What the fuck is wrong with people? You really need to do this? Like, I I I I I I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th, the the th. th. th. the cl. the cl. the cla, the cla, the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the c. the c. the c. the c. the c. the c. the c. the the the c. the thi. thi. thi. Clia, tipe, ca, clia, clia, clia. Clia, clia. Clia, clia, the clia, the cla, the cla, the cl is wrong with people? That photo... Do you really need to do this? Like, can you just not? Like, I don't, I don't understand what is so impossible for people to like, how it is so hard for people to like, translate this from one thing to another.

It's like, oh, they got a big sign up at the Vatican that says, please don't do parkour over the pews. It's very offensive. It's like, oh, I think I'm gonna do it. I think I'm just gonna do it anyway. It's like one thing. It's probably not even that much fun to climb, really. Please do not drop a deuce in the Sistine Chapel.

It's like, yeah, but I gotta go. Well, I gotta go and it's not my church. I don't, yeah, I just, I cannot even figure out what it is like. And again, it's been known for so long, and again, the reason that they are closing it is because it's so fucked up to do. And it just prompts more people to come and do it and it's like like it's it's very difficult to not take it in any other way as people saying oh well well while it's still you know my right to do it I'm gonna come and do it and in your face if you don't like it. Like even if you were like oh but it's

such a deeply amazing place and I have to go and do it before they close it it's like well why do you think it's amazing? Why do you think it's a... What's so deeply amazing and significant about this thing? That you do you absolutely have to come and see it and climb over it before they close it. Anyways, don't do that. Please don't. I was saying to Ben, it makes me think of that, that photo that was doing the rounds a couple weeks ago of like a massive queue snaking down Mount Everest of people like waiting in line to summit it. It's just the

most depressing shit. Truly we paved paradise and put up a parking lot. We certainly did. Oh. Thank you, Vanessa Carlton. Um, God, that was, the cover of that was Vanessa Carlton and Adam Duritz and the counting crows, is that correct? Yeah, absolutely. God damn. God damn. The peak of light culture.

Oh, yeah, just really sucking all of the joy out of things. You love to see it. Yeah, absolutely. Love to see it. Hey, speaking of things that people love to see, and by see I mean here. Oh, boy. That's right. It's time for Lucy's new segment. Ah, this is your captain speaking. Please return your seats for their upright positions as we are coming in hot on another edition of Plainly Speaking.

It's plainly speaking. It's plain speaking. It's plain speaking. No, it's Lucy's plain chat. You do that yourself? It's nice. Of course I do it all myself. It's a lot to look up all the different

tracks of like the people have of like 10-hour soothing cabin noise on YouTube and shit. So good, love it. I love to fall asleep to cabin sounds. I wish I could fall asleep in a plane. I'm not great at it. It's not ideal. Just... I feel like being... to use prescription medication and you will fall asleep sleep in a plane. I'm not great at it. It's not ideal. I feel like being... Prescription medication and you will fall asleep like a dream. You gotta do it. I wish.

I'll solve this problem, I just not going on planes. Perfect. Yeah. But uh, because what are the things that can happen when you do go on a plane, Lucy? What can happen? I don't want to even start on what could happen. What can happen when you don't wear your seat belt is you can be on a plane, an Air Canada plane, headed to Australia from, I think it was Vancouver, and you can hit really bad turbulence and 35 people can suffer minor injuries from hitting the roof. Have you ever seen a video of that happening? It's? It's? It's? It's? It's? It's? It's? It's? It's? It's, it? It's, it? It's, it? It's, it. It's, it. It's, it's, it's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th th thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi thi thi thi. thi. What thi. What th thi. What th th th th th th. What th. What th. What th. What th. What th. What th. What th. What th. What th. What th. What th. What th. What th. What th. What th. What? What, th. What th. What? What th. What's th. What's th. What's th. What's thi. thi. thi. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to that suffer minor injuries from hitting the roof. Have you ever seen a video of that happening?

It's really upsetting. There was one that happened on a Qantas flight. This is like 10 years ago or something with the same era that the Boeing Max had with an angle of attack and the plane just dropped really quickly and all these people just smash their heads into the overhead bins. Very upsetting. God. Yeah, it's wild when you see it happen. It's like, um, everybody suddenly goes into zero gravity and just flies straight upwards. Which is, I believe, how they do, like, um, I think that's how they film

like a bunch of zero gravity type stuff. Oh, they do one those planes that just does the, uh, the up and down stuff. Yeah, where they, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it. Yeah, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, it, it, that, it, it, it, it, it, that, that, it, it, th. It, like, like, like, like, like, zero gravity type stuff. Oh, they do one of those planes that just does the up and down stuff? Yeah, where they like... Yeah, didn't Richard Branson have like a fake space flight, like a zero gravity thing a while ago? That was insanely expensive. Those things still run. They're, they still go. Stephen Hawking did one one time. Photos of him floating through quote unquote space. Crazy.

Hmm. Anyways, you should always wear your seat belt on the plane. This is what you need to take from this. You don't get up to piss. You don't have to piss. There's no, just stay in the seat. Just hold it all in. Get like really sore bladder going on. So the unofficial nickname for this type of

plane is a vomit comet. Vomit comet? Okay. Vomit comet which is a reduced gravity aircraft. So it's a kind of fixed-wing aircraft that provides brief near weightless environments for training astronauts conducting research and making gravity-free movie shots. So basically it just does like a massive peak and comes right down and the whole time it's coming down at a very specific angle, you are essentially floating gravity-free inside the cap. So they just got this experience for free. For, um, for there's one company here that offers for $5,400 US plus 5% tax,

because obviously they couldn't just do that mass themselves. Um, you get 15 parabolic maneuvers creating 20 to 30 seconds of microgravity each. Ooh, it's a lot of microgravity. You could, uh, book a private section for $55,000 plus 5% tax, where you get the section to yourself, or you can get the whole flight for the low, low cost of $165,000 plus 5% tax. What a bargain. Look, it's too much money because 30 seconds isn't long enough to jack off.

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Hmm. Anyway, Lucy was saying. That was, that was just the good plan news of the week. I am, I spotted this one from slightly earlier this month, which was about people in Adelaide freaking out about a plane and a helicopter flying way too close to each other and circling the CBD in Adelaide. Okay. So all these people were like, I think either that these two aircraft seemed to be tethered together or that they're going to crash into each other. We've got somebody posting on social media. Did anybody in Adelaide just see a plane circling

the city being chased by a helicopter? Other people were posting pictures of the flight map that they pulled up. I just saw the weirdest thing in the Adelaide airspace and it's like these two the helicopter in a plane just doing weird laps around the city. ABC Radio Adelaide also received text messages from concerned listeners who wanted an explanation. There's a helicopter there's a helicopter chasing a small plane over the city is this normal one person texted in. Another suggests that the plane was tethered to the helicopter. We have called the Adelaide airport we've called air services Australia and we've the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tolde. tolde. toldlace. told. told. told is is is is. told. told. told. told. told. told. told. told. told. told. told. told. told. told. told. toldlade told. toldlady toldlady toldlady toldlady toldlady toldl. toldlade the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the we've called the South Australia police but no one seems to have any information about it. ABC Radio Adelaide presenter Sonia Feldhoff told listeners. ABC reporter Angelique Donnellan

witnessed the plane and helicopter on Wednesday morning at Grange. It was very eye-catching. I thought it was peculiar. They looked very close. It crossed my mind what was going on. I'd never seen anything like this before. It turns out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out the police the police the police the police the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. I was their. I was their. I was their. I was their. I was their. I was the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the too. I. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. tog. I'm. te. te.a. te. te. te. toe. to. I. I. I'm to. I'm to. I was the police doing a publicity shoot. A police publicity exercises inadvertently triggered fears of an unfolding mid-air emergency. So basically they were just doing a photo shoot. Okay. Cool. So because they have a cool new South Australia police plane all decked out in its Blue Lives Matter regalia and they just wanted to get some rad photos of it so they they flew a helicopter right next to this plane very low and close to the South Australia

to the Adelaide CBD for quite a while and freaked the shit out everybody and didn't tell anybody what they were doing and scared the shit out a while and freaked the shit out everybody and didn't tell anybody what they were doing. And scared the shit out of everyone. So that's cool. Nice. I respect it. Police have since reassured the public that the plane was a police aircraft taking part in a photo shoot. You love to reassure people after the fact that nobody's going to get killed. A photo shoot featuring the recently refurbished South Australia Police, Pellatus PC 12, took place over Adelaide today, police said, in a statement released several hours after the plane was first spotted, the police said the aerial photographs featured the aircraft's new

livery and will be used in corporate publications. Good job everybody. Good job, Adelaide. The aircraft, now I don't believe this part at all, the aircraft owned by South Australia police and used to convey police and prisoners across the state was refurbished as part of their scheduled. Maintenance police said, the flight took place as part of normal operations and no additional costs were incurred. I don't believe that at all. Because also there was a helicopter there specifically for taking photos of it and you just flew around in circles and then went back to the airport. Maybe they found the fuel on the side of the road or something you know? And they got it for free. you've got to get it from somewhere, you know?

Maybe they've psyched a bit out of someone else's. Maybe. Just stole someone's helicopter fuel. Yeah, just a cop sucking on a hose at the side. Trying to get it out of there. Great stuff. So, I think, just after this, Lucy and I are going to hop on over and record an episode of our of our show for the for the Patreon listeners a

bonus episode if you will and we're going to do a special type of episode the listeners love which is paging Dr. Lucy in which we take relationship advice questions. We also read the most horrifying posts from the Reddit relationships subreddit. And there's a question here that I thought it would be worth taking on this episode while we have been with us. It is from Friend of the show Justin McCulloch. Hi Dr. Lucy. I've recently fallen for a pretend cowboy who It is from friend of the show, Justin McCulloch. Hi, Dr. Lucy. I've recently fallen for a pretend cowboy who also happens to give relationship advice.

As a relationship expert, what do you suggest to winning over other relationship experts? I guess Ben will have to answer this one. Wow. I know for a fact that pretend cowboys love being sent money. Oh. Yeah, that's like the key way to get to their heart is just big bundles of cash, weed. That'll, yeah, that's a great way to kindle a romance there. If you were so inclined to try. Pretend Cowboys love it when you buy them a beer at the pub.

Oh, they love that. They love that so much. If you say, hey, don't worry about it. I got this one. They will say, thank you so much. I needed this. So those are two- Would they not have said it in a slightly more cowboy-ish affect? No, it's a pretend cowboy.

That's, yeah, you don't, so that's one of the crucial things here, not a real cowboy. So when they're off the clock, they're just- Absolutely, yeah. If I'm not getting paid, I'm not a cowboy. That classic expression. Now, Ben, this is probably a good opportunity for you to explain what this question is all about and solicit further letters for yourself. Yeah, actually, that would be nice, because I'm getting some horrible questions, I'm not going to lie. So you know that thing where you think of a name for something before you think of what to do with that name, like the concept?

Putting the horse before the cart, if you will. Well, we definitely had a case of that. We just thought it would be funny to call something Rootton and Tootin' and then we're like, well, what can that be? And I was like, it should be a cowboy that gives sex and dating and relationship and life advice generally. And we should do it as a weekly column. And then my boss was like, fine.

Sold. It's your job now. Yep. So I'm going th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi I'm going I'm going the tho I'm going tho' thate' thateateate' tho' thate' thate, tho' tho' tho' tho' tho' thate, that-a, thathea' that-a' that-a' thatat-a, th. We's thi. We's thi. We's thi. We's thi. We's thi. We're thi. thi. We're thattod. We're thi. thattoday, that-s. We're thatean. We're too'er. We're too'er. We're toda'er. We're toda'er. We're toea'er. tho'er. tho'er. th your job now. Yep. So I'm going to be trying to do that. I think the first one did all right for us and then I'll do another one next week or whatever. But the point is if you have a real actual, you know, things you've got going on your life that you like some advice on. But it just so happens that that reply comes from an old-timey cowboy from the American West in the late 1800s and you're fine with that you can send any sort of question you got through to ask a cowboy at pedestrian.TV. And it may or may not get a response.

Yeah. And of course, if you are more comfortable with having your question answered by a pretend lady doctor, you can send your other relationship questions to, hey you guys at Punta Vista.com, or you can sign up for our Patreon. Five bucks a month, get to the bonus episodes, you get to send in questions to the mail bag, you get access to the discord, you get almost 200 episodes of content. Wowzers. That's a lot of content. That's so much.

Hundreds of hours of bullshit that you could be piping into your sweaty earholes. You know, why are they so sweaty? Maybe you should see a pretend doctor about that. We've got plenty of those, at least one. Pretend doctors coming out the Wazoo over here. So if that floats your boat, head on over to Patreon.com forward slash Punta Vista. Get on down. On down with the sickness. It's a doctor, doctor kind of jump, you know? Let's just, let's end the show now. Just wrap it up? Okay. Thanks everybody. We'll see you next week.

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