Boonta Vista - EPISODE 115: Oh My God, They Killed Kenny

Episode Date: September 10, 2019

Andrew, Lucy & Ben discuss how to win (and lose) on the internet's most dangerous battlefield of ideas. Plus early 2000s nu-metal nostalgia and more Planely Speaking! *** Support our show and get exclusive bonus episodes by subscribing on Patreon: www.patreon.com/BoontaVista *** Merchandise available at: boontavista.com/merchandise *** Twitter: twitter.com/boontavista iTunes: tinyurl.com/y8d5aenm Spotify: spoti.fi/2DBCXGA Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/s?fid=144888&refid=stpr Pocket Casts: pca.st/SPZB RSS: tinyurl.com/kq84ddb

Welcome to Pointe Vista episode 115. I can't think of any way in which that number is significant. If you know of some type of historically significant instance of the number 115, please write to hey you guys at Pontivista.com. Ben, can you think of any particularly relevant instance of the number 115.15, please write to, to, hey, you guys, to point vista.com? Ben, can you think of any, any particular relevant instance of the number the number the number the number ofininininininininin, to to to to to to to to to to to to to 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1??? 15? 15, to 1.1, to 1.1, 1.1, 1.1, 1.1, 1.1, 1.1, 1.1, 1.1, 1.1, 1.1, 1.1, 1.1, 1.1, 1.1, 1.1, 1.1, 1.1, 1.1, 1.1, at Punta Vista.com. Ben, can you think of any particularly relevant instance of the number 115 or are we just flying blind here? I mean, I'm really, I'm racking my brain about this. And I'm also trying to buy time by talking to you slowly while I'm using my left hand to Google, the number 115. Hmm. Well, let's give you a little space to do th. th. th. thi this thi thi thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I the their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi. Ben, thi. Ben, thi. Ben, thi.e. Ben, thi.eate.e.e.e.e.e. Ben, toge, toge, th.e.e. Ben, their, thi. Ben, their, their, the number 115. Well let's give you a little space to do this while I swivel my chair towards Lucy. No I haven't had time to Google, I

got nothing. Well you can wait for Ben to Google. Instead I'm gonna ask you about a thing you were just talking about. Lucy said she's going to a new kind of exercise class. It's not new but it's new to me. It's certainly new to me. That's what, that's what, that's what, that's what, that's what, I I I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I to that's to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to that's to to to to to that's, I'm to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to, I, I, I, I, I to to to, I, I to, I to, I to to to to to to th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th. I th. I the, I thi, I thi, thi, thi, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. Well, the. Well, the. thi, to to thi, to thi, th new, but it's new to me. It's new to you. It's certainly new to me. I do bar now. That's what counts. Please explain bar to me. It's like it's like a thing for ladies. There's a lot of stretching. There's a lot of ballet arms. It makes me feel like a fancy lady. It's actually very tough. It's all like repeating one exercise until your muscles start shaking it's very unpleasant and I don't enjoy it but I've been doing it for two weeks so I'm a job I assume it's called I assume it's called bar because there's an actual there is a ballet type type stretching yeah well it's good I think that I think that more exercise programs should include like some type of aesthetic that makes you feel cool or

Yes or glamorous while doing exactly instead of just just running, you know It's not for me Well, I mean, I guess this is kind of the inverse of the whole concept of boot camp where it's like I go to this thing and somebody pretending to be a drill instructor yells at me until I do it I don't want to be yelled at you know Like I absolutely see why it. the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi them or them. them. them. them. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th. th th th. th. I th. I th. I th th th th th th. I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to thi thi to to thi to thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to be a drill instructor yells at me until I do it. I just don't want to be yelled at, you know? I got like, I absolutely see why it works for some people. Promoting the benefits of exercise on the podcast. Self-care.

Well, I am, I am currently in the midst of doing, uh, Steptember, which is, Steptember is a fundraising thing to raise funds for equipment and services and stuff for kids and adults living with cerebral palsy. So it's been organized through more work. And the idea is that you might take 10,000 steps a day on the old pedometer or your fit or whatever the fuck you got going. Very healthy. It's actually a lot.

It's actually a lot. It's a lot more than you think. Yeah, I've been like, because I have to drive to work based on where I am and I've been like parking my car at the furthest car park away and then like exiting the car park in the opposite direction of where my work is and doing like a great big long winding route and then going and like walking very briskly for like 45 minutes or an hour at lunchtime and then doing a great big walk back to the car and stuff and then I get home and I'm like oh no I have to go for a little walk now how's you glutes? My glutes? My glutes? My feet's? My feet is. Oh no, you're little feedies. My feeties.

Little feedies. My feeties. So, you know, I might even, I might even post a link in the show description to the fundraising page. If you would like to donate to a good cause and to make all of this trudging around that I'm doing worthwhile. I'll stick it in there and if you feel like shooting a few bucks in the direction of people in need, you can do so. Ben, what good cause are you out there marching around for? I mean, I'm mostly just walking for the sake of walking. Well, you could be doing this thing

at the same time. I was thinking about doing it, but I didn't want to jack your steeze. I mean is it too late for me to start? It's the kids. It's for the kids. We're already eight days into September. Well, you could probably still still do a billion steps. I might do that actually. I'm already doing a little over 10,000 steps a day generally. I'm already there. Well some of us have the time. I love to to to to to to to to to to walk the the the to walk the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to the the the the the tho the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their thauice. I'm. I'm tod. I'm today. I'm today. Ia. I'm today. Ia. I'm today. I'm today. I'm that's. I'm that's thea. I'm the the time. Some of us do have the time. Walking around. I love to walk. I'm a real walkhead.

I'm a big walkhead too, big fan. Mr. Hotstepper, they call him. I don't know about that. I've got a lot of things about the number 115, if you'd like to go down a bunch of Wikipedia holes to find out what a lot of these meant and now I feel like that was a waste of time. It probably was. Have you got, pick one. Pick one.

Pick one. I can't believe you're making me choose. This is like choosing my favorite child. You're sweet babies out of the two, just wondering Andrew? The first one. No, absolutely not. If you're listening this th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that thi that thi thi thi thi thi that was thi thi that was that was that was that was that was that was that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was that was th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is just wondering Andrew? Uh, the first one. Um, so... No, no, no. No, absolutely not. If you're listening to this in 50 years time,

and you are one of my children. And you're one of Andrew's beautiful children, and your father has passed away in a hot air-blooding accident, this is the only way you can reconnect with his memories. He's absolutely joking. I love you both for very different reasons. You are both different kinds of freaks who I love. How would it be if actually after you would pass away they were listening to this? What if this is, that would be strange.

Oof, what a thought anyway. 115, the fire service emergency number in Italy. Okay-dokey. Oh no, my house is on fire. Mamma Mia. Oh, no. Oh, it's in my house. Dial a 1 of 5, real quick.

My pizza party caught on fire. I burnt my spaghetti. Oh my meatbona too spicy. Oh. They press the one. Then you press the one and then you press the five. And somebody picks up that phone and they say, a bonjorno? Abandurna? Mamma Mia! phone and they say a bonjorno? Abandonna? Mamma Mia! You've called the little old lady fire department. What is your fire? Anyway, welcome to...

Everyone loves this bit. The podcast that only exists because people think racism against Italians is fine now. If you'd like to cancel us over this, please don't. Please don't. You'll only make a fool of yourself. You can write into, feel free to write into Lucy at Wunterbista.com. And let her know if the accent is fine by you or not and exactly what your Italian heritage is. Now, speaking of people people defending weird racist positions

and all that kind of stuff, I believe this week Ben would like to talk to us about a mysterious entity, about a spooky man. The man without a face. The man without a face, although unfortunately on the battlefield of ideas in the Australian culture war that is raging at all times, absolutely all times of every day. So this is a person whose column appeared in the Australian newspaper a couple years ago and we were all led to believe that he was on a mission to simply annihilate the left wing over this country through his powerful ideas. So Ben, what's the deal?

What's going on here? Well, it's just as a bit of a primer for non-Australians. So the Australian media landscape, I think is quite unique in the world in that it is entirely controlled by opinion writers that work at one newspaper. So we have, the country has about seven actual journalists and about 400,000 political commentators. They all get paid $250,000 a year to write one column every quarter at the Australian. And generally these people like to think of themselves as sort every quarter at the Australian. And generally these people like to think of themselves as sort of mini-celebs.

They're all doing, you know, they're all on panels all the time. They're all popping up at writers, festivals, and all sorts of junk, always on your TV. But there's one, one of them who has decided to shirk the fame and the notoriety that comes with this, possibly because these ideas are too dangerous. We are of course talking about the Australian's own the mocker. Now I hate being mocked. It's my least favorite thing.

Well guess what, buddy, this name is not a lie. He will mock, and he loves to mock. This comes from like a great tradition of, uh, like, right-wing Twitter accounts, with like, 50 followers giving themselves a really self-aggrandizing name, like, Destroyer of Lefties. Free Speech speech crusader 1956. Just like real, I've got this important task and I'm doing it on Twitter to the like handful of people that actually see my tweets that aren't porn or spam bots. But the mocker is doing this in newspaper form and he is presumably paid for this. Now it's not entirely clear why he is anonymous.

There's not really anything here that would necessarily endanger anyone's employment or anything. There's nothing particularly controversial. It's just very, very bad. I'm going to... And that's what's so weird about it is it was very much framed at the time of it coming out as somebody, somebody extremely important is doing this stuff from behind the scenes. Almost like a

almost like a weird kind of reversed idea of the concept of like page six blind items you know where it's like we're gonna tell you this titlating thing and we're not gonna say explicitly who it's about. Instead it's kind of this person's going to be, um, it's thi, um, this person is a this this this this this this is this this is this is this is this is this this is thi's this thi's this this this this is this is this this thi's this this thi's this is this this this is this this this this this this this this thi. this this this this this this this this is is this is this is this this is this this this this this this this this this this this this this this thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tell you this titillating thing and we're not gonna say explicitly who it's about. Instead it's kind of this person's going to be just blasting you with scintillating cultural analysis but we're not gonna tell you who it is. Wouldn't you love to know who it is it's someone super important. I do love to be blasted. Oh hose me down from the ideology pump baby. Knock the cap off the ideology the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thioing thioes thioes thioloes thoom. It is thoes thioloompers thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoompers. It is thoomper is thoom is thoom is thoom is thoom is tho's is thoes is th. It's is th. It's is th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's thoes thoes tho thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooes person's thooooooes person is the thoes person. Oh, hose me down from the ideology pump, baby. Knock the cap off the ideology hydrant and let me play with it in the street.

Like it's a hot summer's day in Hell's Kitchen. That's making it sound quite pleasant actually. I'm going to read for you the mockers bio in the paper. It is the single most... I'm just going to read it. Okay. I hate it so much. The first four words alone. Okay, I'm just going to read it. The Mocker amuses himself by calling out Pozer's, sneezing, sneering social commentators and po-faced officials. He is deeply suspicious of those who seek increased regulation of speech and behavior, believing that journalism is dominated by idealists and

activists. He likes to provide a realist's perspective of politics and current affairs. The mocker amuses himself. He is merely the puppet master. He is pulling the strings and making us all dance. He is the Australian's Joker. Calling out poses like people who were wearing a metallic shirt? Yeah he's the one walking up to people who be like hey name three of their albums. What is a poser in this scenario? Yeah, I guess like, yeah, idealists and activists. Yeah, I guess also there's a very obvious problem with this. Believing the journalism is dominated by idealists and activists, is that's number one positioning, uh, does the, uh, I, I, I, thus, uh, thus the, they, they, they they their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their their their their, in their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their po-a, th's, th's, th's, th's, th's, their po-a, their poser, their poser, their poser inists and activists, is that number one, positioning, does that mean that he's positioning himself

as not an idealist or activist? And also, he's merely amusing himself. Dance, puppets, merely exposing the poses. But also, just coming back to what you were saying earlier, Ben, this seems like immediately conflating the idea of a journalist and an opinion writer. Oh, they love to do that, the Australian, don't they? They love to do that at News Corp. Every single one of their political commentators believes themselves to be a journalist in some regard because their dad gave them like a six-week paid internship at a newspaper when they were like 17. Except for when they've written something

extremely racist or problematic or they've accidentally done like a double-page spread with a huge 72-point bold headline that says whites are being removed in the great population replacement. and then all of a sudden, the thu-su-su-sum-s-gued the-s the-sum-like the-like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like th-s, like, like, like th-s, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like the-like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like their their their their the-like, like the-like, like the-like, like the-like, like the-like, like th-like, like th-s, like th-s, like th-s, like th-s, like-s, like-s, like-s, like-s, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, their-a, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, like, like, their, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the says whites are being removed in the great population replacement. And then all of a sudden they are definitely just an opinion writer and not a journalist. They shouldn't be held to any sort of standard at all. It's just thoughts. It's just thoughts. Crives. Thoughts aren't a crime. Not yet.

So, but also I think another thing that becomes relevant throughout this episode is deeply suspicious of those who seek increased regulation of speech and behavior. Hmm. You'd hate to see anybody's speech getting regulated. You truly would. So, what exactly does a realist perspective of politics and current affairs look like you might ask? Well, I've prepared some examples. At the start of last month he wrote an article called The Cost of Gillette's

Wokeness revealed a non-cash write-down of 12 billion dollars. Now you might recall the Gillette ad that made people fucking lose their minds, the star this year, that was like, hey, don't bully other kids boys or hey, don't like chase a woman down the street. That's bad behavior. And everyone said, you've fucking cunt. You come into my house, you pop up on my television, and you tell me not to assault a woman. I'm going to eat this razor right now to prove you wrong. I'm going to buy 40 packs of Mac threes and flush them down my toilet, clogging the drain

in my house to the cost of several hundred dollars of plumbing because I'm so fucking mad. It's hard to tell what would be more expensive, that plumbing repair or the raises themselves because they're not cheap. It turned out to be about even and it's cost me $600. So yeah that was a huge issue eight months before this article was written. And every single person live had forgotten about it but well why did he bring it up? Well because of what he said in the the headline it caused them to have a 12 billion dollar non-cash write-down so they they revalued the company at 12 billion dollars less than it was before right wow that raises ad must have really

impacted them. Except it didn't. They did the revaluation, which was based on their value from 14 years ago, so it's hard to say whether one thing in January was the thing that kicked this off. But this was also the loss that they had here from the revaluing it was also in their like biggest fourth quarter sales to date on record. So it didn't really seem to impact their sales at all and the CEO of Procter and Gamble said that they did the write down largely because millennials have beards now and because of... Another thing millennials are killing. It's the shaving industry and because of a dollar shave club, they're big competitor. Oh yeah. Which the marker says in the article.

He quotes that. So... I love when they point out the reasons that they're wrong and do not conclude that they're wrong. Yeah, it seems pretty strange. Or, how about... Here's another bit of Frank Realism from the realist himself. This is an article he wrote about how universities and safe spaces, blah, blah, blah, blah. Every conservative has written 20 of these. This is the opening sentence, which is really good to me because you never see this trope in real life anymore, you only see it in people making fun of like bad speech writing. According to the Encyclopedia Britannica, the noun university is derived from the Latin expression, Universitastorum, et scolarium, which roughly translated as a community of a

community of teachers and scholars. I am curious as to what is Latin for a community of taxpayer subsidized, free-loading, self-loathing activists bent on universities succumbing to primitivism. I think that's called Politics Baby. Hey, yo! Wow! He put out an encyclopedia Britannica for this. I actually did a search through all these other articles to see if he'd ever done this before and he was just habitually he had not

unfortunately. You know you know that an article is going very well when somebody opens with the Macquarie Dictionary defines racism as like it's always a great sign that you've put a lot of work and thought into it and it doesn't at all read like a first year uni student trying to pad a work guy. Smart guy here. Got another great example here. So his response to the AFP raids on journalist Anika Smitherst, uh, the headline is, How Does J'Sui Un Hippocrit Sound? Damn!

And the subtitle is, where were these people in 2011? And you think, oh, eight years ago. What happened? What happened? What happened? What happened? What was, maybe, like, a conservative journalist was rated by the AFP? Or... I know what it's going to be.

Well, obviously it's got to be something important, right? We all know that one big attack on press freedom that happened in 2011. I'll let the mocker say this one. Green Senator Sarah Hansen Young labeled the AFP's actions, an attack on the press for doing their job and an attack on those who tell the truth. Compare her purported principles to her reaction in 2011 when a federal court found Herald Sudd journalist Andrew Bolt had breached Section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act in questioning the motives of light-skinned Australians who identified as indigenous. Oh dear.

I hate it when my racist friend has his speech regulated. I thought it was going to be the Charlie Hepto cartoons. Oh no, it's worse somehow. That's another one that conservatives absolutely love saying, oh yeah, where were you standing up for the right to draw very racist cartoons? No, this is, uh, oh, so you care about a journalist right to report on government plans to have like no warrant wire taps on the entire Australian population, but why don't you care when someone was super racist? Hmm, you got me there. Uh-huh. Now, uh, the mocker's identity is obviously a tightly kept secret because anyone behind ideas this explosive, it would be just completely damaging if we ever found out who they were.

Society would be turned to complete chaos. They'd be rioting in the streets. It would probably also turn into like one of those movies, like the early 2000s remake of the TV show SWAT. Remember that movie? The 2005-ish? I reckon it was. I can't be it was Colin Farrell. Wow.

Colin Farrell in the lead role, which tells you exactly what kind of era this movie was. Jeremy Renner. Oh. The Jeremy Renner as his friend who turns on him. Old memorable Jeremy Redder himself. Yep. L.L. Coolj. Jamemorable Renner.

Michelle Rodriguez as the hard-ass chick who can hang with the boys, and Samuel L Jackson as the one who brings the team together, just like the Avengers, starring Jeremy Renner. Amazing. Yep, great, great, like, new metal soundtrack. I'm pretty sure it has Limp Biscuit doing like an updated cover of the SWAT theme song. Yeah. I'm on board.

This sounds great. On the credits, you know, huh? Except in that movie, they capture a drug cartel kingpin who's like, oh, it was Kylie Minogue's French boyfriend from the early 2000s. Do you remember that dude? And he's like, I will give 100100 million to whoever breaks me out of here. And then they're trying to get him around and everybody's trying to get him. And I picture basically if they revealed the Osmacher's identity that it would just be a replication

of that. People desperately trying to protect him as swarming leftists and Antifa come out of every no knuck and cranny, every darken alley, trying to get this guy. We don't know who he is. And there's no way to find out as far as I know. I've got some really bad news guys. His name is Martin Leonard and he's on Twitter as Monster Dome. Would you might be a self-deprecating comment about the enormous size of his head, or it could be a delightful coincidence. There is no

way to tell. But we do know that he is this monster-dome gentleman. Thanks to two things. The first being that a friend of the show, who is a former News Corp employee, was accidentally c-ceded in an email chain that said what his name is while they were working there which was great and as friend of the show Pat Caruana points out if you try and do the phone well the password recovery thing for both of those accounts what it does is it obscures all of the phone number except for the last two digits. And, uh, yeah, same deal. You can do a variety one.

And, uh, most of those, both the mocker and monster-dom accounts, are both the number that ends in 1-1. And I believe there's about a one in a hundred chance of that coincidence happening. If only Theo was here to verify that maths. Do the work other numbers on that bad boy? They crunch those digits. So Monster Dome is just like, it's just a regular right wing poster, right?

This is from an excerpt from an article for Junkie written by a friend of a show, Nadine von Cohen who, uh, did the bravest thing in the world and went to a Menzies Institute I think event called How to Win to Win at Twitter. Here is... It's a great article. It's a very enjoyable. I just want point out that like, I just love the whole conservative thing of like being extremely obsessed with Twitter as being like this leftist echo chamber where it's you know it's completely dominated by left wing voices and it's not reality. Real life is being censored. Yeah, it's not reality. The real world's not like this. In reality, everyone agrees with us and all the sort of

shit and on and on. But they're just continually showing their ass by doing stuff like this. Where they literally say, we have put on an event where you can come out, pay money, and come to a public place and look a bunch of other people in the face who have all said, I too would like to know how to stop getting dunked on by my grandkids. I think the biggest flaw here is their belief that it's a thing that you can win. Yeah. It's not real.

It's not important. It's like fun to go on there and like own someone for being a dipshiphip, but that doesn't change minds. It doesn't do anything. No. And like I think normal people understand that, but all these conservatives like this is the great ideological battleground of our time, which is a sickness. That is a brain sickness. A brain illness. Yeah, let me just read this two paragraph excerpt here. The last panelist is Monster Dome, whose only listed credential is Twitter Warrior. Not knowing who or what a Monster Dome is, I look up to Twitter to find out. His profile is typical of a right-leaning human, tweets, likes, and retweets of things I disagree with in the occasional animal video.

But something confused me. MonsterDome, Twitter Warrior, teacher of tweets, has about 2,500 followers. He's been on Twitter since 2012, and he has 2,500 followers. I don't know what the exact criteria is for achieving warrior status, but by that standard half the idiots on Twitter meet the threshold. So he's just some guy. I would just like to point out again, as you're saying, the Australian has given this guy his own column. They publish it on the website. I don't know if they, I'm pretty sure they publish it in the paper, do they? Who knows? Yeah, it's in the print, it's in the print, it's the print, it's the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their thi. their their their their their thi. thi. thi. It's their their their their their their, their, their, their, their. It's is. It's is. It's is. It's is. It's is. It's is. It's their. It's their. It's their. It's their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. the. th. th. th. th. the. th. the. the. the in the paper, do they? Who knows? Yeah, it's in the print paper.

In the print paper, they've given this guy's thing. One can only assume that they actually pay him money to do so. And also, they've made a big deal out of it. They've clearly actually gone to some kind of effort to try and conceal this guy's identity both internally and externally. I have over four times the number of followers that this guy does on Twitter, and here's a sample of what I tweet from September 6th, sucking and fucking in this economy? Nice humble brag there. I don't understand the point that you're trying to make, that's the kind of stuff to get your followers. Yeah, exactly. Like, people are, people are more thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi the the the try try try try try try try try try try try thooooo. the the the the thi thi. the to make, that's the kind of stuff to get your followers. Yeah, exactly. People are more interested in hearing that kind of idiocy

than whatever Monster Dome is talking about. And it's not a humble brag to get into Twitter followers because you guys have exponentially more Twitter followers than me. And each thousand makes your life worse. Makes life worse and makes the things that you want to talk about dumber and dumber..... that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that kind that kind that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that kind that that kind that kind that kind that that kind that kind that kind that kind that kind that kind that kind that kind that kind that kind that kind that kind that kind that kind that kind that kind that kind that kind that kind that kind that kind that kind that kind that kind th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. And each thousand makes your life worse. It does. And makes the things that you want to talk about dumber and dumber. It makes your life worse. That's true. But yeah point being that I I also was kind of tracking this a while ago when this thing came out when I was like oh so this guy's going to change the landscape of Australian politics and they've clearly put a bunch of money and effort into it and everything and the Osmacher account had like

800 followers and then I checked back in a year later and he had like 1100 followers and warrior who he's doing well so yeah here we are talking about him on the podcast oh wow he's living rent free in our head he certainly is! yeah yeah he's the that, he's the same. Yeah he's totally is th th the th the th th th the the th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tho's tho's tho's tho's touch touche the touche the the touche's the the the Os mo's the the Osmoc. the the the the the the the the the the talking about him on the podcast. Wow, he's living rent-free in our head. He certainly is. Yeah, I just, I just don't understand, I guess I just cannot understand where the original idea, the original germ of this idea came from to say, you know what we should do. Give old Marty a column in the paper. That would explode some people's brains,

except for the fact that almost no one knows who Monster Dome is, but we'll work around that by making up a whole new identity for this guy that also doesn't have any kind of cache attached to it. I think these ideas are explosive. Yeah, explosive diarrhea. That's why you get the big bucks for posting, Ben. One dollar a tweet. One dollar a tweet. What a wonderful event. What a wonderful event to go to.

How to win at Twitter. How to win. There's no winning. Well, there is no winning at Twitter, but there win at Twitter. How to win? There's no winning. Well there is no winning at Twitter. If you win, you've lost. The only winning move is not to play. That's right. However, I would say that there is a very, very definitive way in which one can lose.

And that was demonstrated by Chris Kenny. Sky News host and Australian columnist Chris Kenny. Now the event you spoke of Ben, the how to win at Twitter, a column, sorry, a panel in which there were I think three hosts, one of them was the Monster Dome, and one of them was Chris Kenny. So So Chris who had a great reputation on Twitter for posting like really dumb stuff like posting that type of that type of thing where just several thousand people could immediately say ah here is the gaping floor in your logic or the

extremely obvious example of this thing you're talking about that you've overtly ignored. And he would then ignore all of the people immediately proving him wrong and retweet one person who was like, you show these lefties, Chris. So Chris was on that panel. And recently, Chris made a big deal of quitting Twitter because everybody was so mean to him all the time And which I believe is how you win on the battlefield of ideas you just say leave me alone and then you delete your account So there was a whole thing in the US over the last week or so of

I believe he's the editor of the New York Times opinion section or is he just a columnist? Brett Stevens? Just a columnist. Just a columnist. And he, so there was like you can catch up on the whole deal from other sources but basically he's a conservative and a dickhead and he's extremely obsessed with the whole safe spaces on college campuses and protecting free speech from people who want to stop you from saying things and that everyone who gets offended by a slur needs to toughen up and volunteer for a war and all that kind of thing. So there was some kind of report of an infestation of bed bugs, like a Trump resort or something

like that. Somebody from a university somewhere quote tweeted this and said, don't worry, the bed bug is Brett Stevens. This person only had like a couple of hundred followers. The tweet had like nine likes and zero retweets. Somehow Brett Stevens has found this tweet, which he insists was not from just sitting on Twitter and names searching himself, which he definitely was, has then written an email to the man in question, ceasing in his boss at the university, saying, hey, you should come to my house

and have dinner with me and my wife and kids and call me a bed bug to my face. The guy's boss said, why are you emailing me about this? Go away. And everybody in the world said, oh my god, this is the guy who spends his entire life and his many hundreds of thousands of dollars a year salary complaining about triggered leftist snowflakes and their safe spaces and someone that nobody cares about called him a bed bug in a tweet that nobody saw and he's literally contacted the guy and his boss and turned it into a big enough deal that the president

of the United States tweeted about it and called him a bed bug. Causing Brett Stevens to then freak out, quit his Twitter account to delete his account from Twitter, go on TV and do an interview about it, making a fool out of himself, and of course finally write a column in the New York Times in which he compared being called a bedbug to the language used in the Holocaust to dehumanize Jews. And this is already after he made a big show a couple years ago of being like, I'm not on Twitter anymore, I have a personal assistant that seds out my tweets for me,

but I will not be reading them. Which again is the sign of the stoutest and strongest mind really standing up for himself. Bedbug is so good. It's such a good insult. Oh, you are a bed bug. Oh, so you're basically Hitler, Lucy. Well done. I guess so.

So Chris Kenny has basically replicated this in Australia on a smaller scale Which is that he is extremely Tired of being dunked on absolutely constantly for everything that he posts because it's always really dumb Not to mention I think a lot of people's problems with the stuff that he said more of the not was that it was just very very very very clearly purely? Purely ideologically driven and often very intellectually dishonest it was often very very very very, very clearly, purely ideologically driven and often very intellectually dishonest. It was often very, very clear that he had no intention of having a good faith debate about anything.

That he had picked an inflammatory position at the start and then ignored all evidence to the contrary while the whole time saying, nobody wants to debate conservatives online. So he in turn deleted his Twitter account and made a big deal about I'm not coming back to this place. But what he did do was go on his TV show because as we all know the most censored figures in the country all also have TV shows and do constant panel appearances on the biggest TV shows in the country and have columns in the newspaper. And he did a whole piece which turned up in the country and have columns in the newspaper.

And he did a whole piece which turned up on the Australian as an article in which they transcribed basically his big butt hurt rant from TV and turned it into an article for him. Because you know your fingers get sore typing stuff out for a living. Why should you have to type stuff out when you already had some thoughts and said them? So this article has come out and the ti- the the the the the the the tied tied tied tied tied tied ti tied ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti tp. tp. tp. their their tp their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the the the the the the the the the t t t t t t t. t. tp. tp. tp. te te te te.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e. te. te. t living. Why should you have to type stuff out when you already had some thoughts and said them? So this article has come out entitled, The Bile on Social Media just keeps getting worse. Yeah, doesn't it?

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make an extremely token nod to the idea that you are holding both sides to account by saying oh there are extremes at either end but don't think about any of the extremes at the end at my end of politics because I'm here to complain about the other side. As I've told you before I closed my Twitter account because of this constant stream of bile, I keep an eye on what goes on. You closed your account but you keep an eye on what goes on. As I've told you before, I closed my Twitter account because of this bile.

But I keep an eye on what goes on and have a look at what I found. So he's closed down his Twitter account because it's such a cesspit of idiotic bile. But also he just lurks on there, names searching himself to get mad. Seeing what people are saying about him. To get mad that people have talked shit about him for being an idiot? Basically. Extremely good. Oh, this is great. So keep in mind, as I'm going through this, keep in mind that this did not appear as an article on the paper originally. This is actually what he used his time on his TV program to do. Putting tweets up on the screen about him and speaking to them. This is a tweet,

apropos of nothing from at Les Stonehouse, a Queenslander who calls himself political spinner. It's also very clear that all of these are from like cooked boomers. Yeah, just like random boomers online. Yeah, just random boomers who like to get online and act like their tweets are doing like, you know, political analysis or advice to politicians. Political spinner has tweeted. If you are at a crossing and Scott Morrison, Pauline Hanson, Peter Dutton, Andrew Bolt, and Chris Kenny were walking across the road together.

Would you have a huge smile on your face when you realize the brakes badly needed repairing? Several emoges. The emoges don't seem to bear any relation to each other. It's like a sunglasses guy, a concerned face. But also a big grin. My bad, again, only joking. Well, a little bit. My bad again, only joking. Well, a little bit. Hashtag Ospole, my crazy mind.

Oh, that's epic. Now, I know that anybody else looking at that tweet would immediately think, I need to take this death threat seriously. Yeah, this guy who's definitely a little twisted. He's got a crazy mind. He said it himself. My crazy mind, he said it himself. My crazy mind, only joking.

Chris says, okay, we've had Burke Street, we've had niece, we've had Berlin, but this bloke thinks it's funny to fantasize about running over people he disagrees with politically. Oh man, I wonder if Chris Kenny said anything about Prue McSween, when she said, if I saw Yasper Abdul Bukhede crossing the road, I would hit her with my car. She didn't even say only joking or my crazy mind.

True, if she had said my crazy mind, I would have been like, oh, she's just twisted. But check out the Ruxenops. I would not have said broad. I'm an ally to women everywhere. I would have because... Especially Prue McSween. The Prune defender has logged on. But check out the responses. More than 100 people at last check, so I can only assume he's been going on every hour

and seeing like a few more likes and getting madder. At last check, more than 100 people had liked this comment and more than a dozen had retweeted it. One respondent, Vicky, whose handle is, don't blame me, I voted labor. Tweeted, I'm a little more, oh now the accelerator got stuck. Oh, this tickled me. At Wendy Beal 4-4-4 Wentwith. Oh, God damn.

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Not damaging my car on those freaks. Can we hire a bus? All these people have their full names in their handles, which tells you that they're all above the age of 50. Well that's going to come into play. Hugh Monroe 16 said it was, quote, not so crazy and might save the nation. NC Triggs, tweaed, except that a modern car would just crumple. You need an old yut with a rhubar.

Oh my goodness. One even suggested backing over us just to make sure, but if you dig a little deeper, the hypocrisy is overwhelming. Is it? Well, like, and again, like the Brett Stevens thing, this is a person who has made so much of his living from insisting that leftists are trying to stifle everybody's speech. And that words aren't harmless, and the words aren't damaging. Yeah, all that sort of stuff. That people who deliberately take offense to things. That are clearly jokes. They are the ones who are in fact snowflakes.

Take at Emma B. Hart, who got involved joking about who of the intended victims might push others under the car. Quote, they would push Pauline for sure, she tweeted. They might all be racist, but a woman but a woman with a voice is just as deplorable. Incredible stuff, especially when you read the self-description in her profile. Don't hate, Emma B. Hart, says, hatred of anything manifests within you and creates something ugly. Sing it, louder for the people in the back.

On and on it goes. These are real people, presumably with jobs and families. They get to vote, they get to argue and debate, and this is what they choose to send out there on social media. Dumb founding, isn't it? Well, I decided to track down Les Stonehouse and found him on Facebook. Again, pointing the big finger with social media is ruining your brain at other people as I name search on a site I've deleted my account on and then try to find the people involved on other services and contact them to ask them about their tweets.

Where it says he's semi-retired on Facebook and I was able to reach out to him and ask if he thought such posts, fantasizing about killing people he disagrees with, are acceptable on social media. I asked him how his family and friends felt about such posts and what they might think if such posts were made about him. And I got a short response. Read my handle, he said. Laugh out loud, most of my stuff are tongue and cheek, humour.

Humor. I love tongue and cheek. It's my favorite kind of humor. Most of my stuff are tongue and cheek, comma, humor. Full stop. Well, we think we know what he means, but there isn't a much about this. You do think that, yes. There isn't much about this that is tongue in cheek.

It is more like unadorned hatred. So Les Stonehouse then tweeted out my Facebook message and suggested that lefties with their silly tweets were not a threat, but you'd be worried if it was a right-wing nut job. My point in highlighting all of this is twofold. First, what is it with grown adults who think it is not only acceptable to joke about killing anyone they disagree with, but how can they be so unashamed about this idiocy that they're happy to put it up on a public platform and share it? And my second point is about the platform. This is when it gets beautiful. Newspapers, television stations and radio stations, as we know,

are responsible for the things that people say on their platforms. Huh. Much like Monster Dome's friend Andrew Bolt and his convicted racism. They go to great lengths to make sure it is within the bounds of the law and of common decency. So we've got Andrew Bolt who literally got done by the Racial Discrimination Council, the Human Rights Council, for racially vilifying Aboriginal people in a series of columns which the Australian gives him, which News Corp gives him. And

then when he was found guilty and convicted, the only thing that they made him do was like say I have to delete these articles and say I'm sorry about this they made him do was like, say, I have to delete these articles and say I'm sorry about this thing, and then he's just kind of continued to go on writing columns about the same stuff forever. He's also written columns about, he's also written columns about changing demographics in Australia over the last however many decades, under a big headline of The Great Replacement,

which as we all know is specifically Nazi rhetoric. White Genocide real. Yep, that's like, it's straight up imported white genocide language that he has used in his columns. Alan Jones incited a race riot. On the radio. Remember how responsible he got held for that? Uh-huh. Yeah and also I guess like the series of months and months and months of articles about Yasmin Abdelmajid for one post that she made on Facebook

and deleted several minutes later. It's fine to talk about that for a year after. Yep, and lots of people were held responsible for all of the harassment and death threats that she got as a result and eventually land up leaving the country because she couldn't do or say anything without it being reported on extensively by the Australian for a month time. Chris Kenny had to leave Twitter just to come back and see what mean things are being said about him sometimes. Just to stop getting dunked on for five minutes here to leave the whole way. What the hell?

Dame Sir Fright Bat, a top hat emoji just called me a poop. No! I have to put this on national television. Duke Parakelia won't stop calling me a dog fucker. And he also says... He's a dog fucker. He fucks dogs. As far as we know. Which, I think it's safe to say, we condemn as a podcast.

Yeah, I think so. Anti-dog-fucking podcast. Stanchly anti that. Yeah, feel free to look into that if you would like. You won't actually find anything horrifying. It's a thing that happened on a TV show. The Chaser, an old Australian TV show called The Chaser, was doing like an election coverage thing or something,

and they were talking about Chris Kenny and they made a joke in which they flashed up a picture of him standing behind a dog as though he were fucking it for like one or two seconds and he went ape shit and sued them and got them forced to give an apology and all that sort of stuff. This which is again, hey all these snowflakes, the snowflakes, the f-in' th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, th, th, th, and thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, and thi, the the their their their their, their, their, their their their their their their their their their their they they they they they they they they they, and they they, and they they they they they they they they they, and their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, thi, thi, their, thi, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, theat, theatr-a, theateateatr-a, their their their their their their their their their their their their to give an apology and all that sort of stuff. Yes, which is again, hey, all these snowflakes getting the feelings hurt, you know. So Chris says, when someone goes too far in these platforms like newspapers, television stations, radio stations, there are ramifications and rightly so. Just like again, all the ramifications that there have been for Andrew Bolt and Chris Kenny himself and for Alan Jones and for the thanks and for the thonesonesones, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, thones, thones, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, uh, tho, tho, their, their, their, their, their, their, uh, their, uh, uh, uh, uh, their, their, uh, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they, they, they, they, they, they-s, they-s, they-a, their, their, their, their, the ramifications that there have been for Andrew Bolt and Chris Kenny himself and for Alan Jones and for Mark Latham and for Pauline Hanson and for all these people constantly spouting damaging divisive racist, white supremacist.

But you're not allowed to say these things. Well they say all these things and then guess what? They are held accountable and there are ramifications like continuing to get paid columns anywhere that you ask for them, continuing to get massive sums of money to host your radio station about same kind of thing. But these digital giants have no such obligation. They make billions hosting all sorts of stuff but also plenty of football and filth. This has got to change. We went to Twitter about this exchange. Oh my god, you called Twitter about it. I asked to speak to Twitter's manager and the spokesperson said something mean about me on your website. It's also extremely good.

We went to Twitter about this exchange asked to speak to the manager and their spokesperson said, we don't comment on individual accounts for privacy and security reasons. At Twitter, our singular goal is to improve the health of public conversation, including ensuring the safety of people who use our service. When we find accounts for violation of our policies, we take action according to Twitter rules. So he got a copy and pasted statement saying fuck off. So there you go. Just another day on Twitter. My advice, keep away from this sewer.

It is like reading the back of the toilet door in public debate. Then why do you keep doing it? Yep I just love to keep going back there. Just loving it. Oh Chris, you huge dickhead who everybody hates. You're a massive idiot. No one's making you do this. Log off. An incredibly reviled public figure. Twitter doesn't mean anything. No. I can't stress this enough. The idea that someone would go on television and be like one of those 60 follower insane boomers tweeted something incomprehensible and another bunch of 60 follower boomers agreed with them, well let's take up 10 minutes of my TV show with this. Like, it's... Again, to somehow prove the point that a... Well, what are the points we're proving here?

I guess one of them is that Twitter doesn't matter, and I'm proving that by going on there to read posts about myself, getting mad, trying to find the people who posted these things in real life on other forums, messaging them and asking them to take responsibility and explain the posts, reaching out to Twitter's management to complain th....................... th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th Twitter's, thi, thi, that, that, ththe ththe ththe that, that, that, ththe ththe ththe ththe ththe ththe ththe that, that, that, that, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th, th, th, th, the the the the their their their their their their their their their their thi thi their other forums, messaging them and asking them to take responsibility and explain the posts, reaching out to Twitter's management to complain about the posts, and then going on to my TV show and using up a bunch of time talking about it, and then getting the people who work at my TV show to transcribe my however many minute long rant, and also post it up as an article. And that's

how I can prove to you how meaningless Twitter is and how much nobody cares about it, especially me, the person who doesn't sit up until 4 a.m. every night reading posts that say it would be funny if a piano fell on Chris Kenny's head and then his head came up out of the piano and all of his teeth had been replaced by piano keys. And that's that. That wouldn't be not funny. You know, wouldn't dislike it. I just don't understand the incredible lack of self-awareness to attempt to portray

yourself as above, you know, getting mad about stuff that's posted online while providing example after example after example of how incredibly fucking mad this stuff has made you. Fantastic. And you've got to love it. You do. You do gotta love it. Yep. And speaking of people getting hammered for their bad opinions, we're gonna check in with a little friend that we like to call, Shane War. Shane, Shane, Shane, Shane, Shane, Shane, Shane, Shane, Shane, Shane, Shane, Shane, Shane, Shane, Shane, Shane, Shane, Shane, thear in London. Talkin' fabric, sit with Shane, Shane, Horn,

Ferry, London. Talk about stuff. Wow. Wow. Wow. It was very uplifting. I'm feeling very inspired. I feel jazzed up.

All jazzed up to revisit a favorite segment of ours, where in the wide world of Warnies' world of Shane Warren is Shane Warren? Where is wide Shane Warren in the world? How wide is Shane Warren to be in this world? Uh, the wide world of Shane Warren? Where in the world? be in this world. The wide world of Shane Warren. Where in the world? Where in the wide world of warning? When won?

Where warn? Where warn? That's right, folks. We're talking about beloved international sports figure, Shane Warn. We like to check in on him every now then just see what he's up to. Since he retired from the game of cricket, I believe it's known. He's just been out there in the world, banging his British models with fake titties, getting fake tans, just getting a nice eyebrow lift here and there.

A little bit of Botoxx. It's self-care, sweetie. Look it out. It absolutely is, and he has a right to do it, and I will defend that right to the death. He's, he's, look, he might be a little concerned with his looks, all that kind of thing. He's out there playing poker. He's out there accidentally setting up charities that throwns But this week, he got asked about Brexit.

That issue that we all understand very well, but we're not going to get into right now. I would love to explain it to you in detail, but we simply do not have the time. Don't have the time. We very much get it. They've pro-roged. A parliament, and you know what a pro-roging means so that will that would be a whole conversation so well it means that they are in favor of rogues pro rogues also thieves majors bandits yep a lot of things they're in favor of over there it's a wild country

Buccaneers huh Australian cricketing legend Shane Warren is being hampered on social media oh you hate to see someone get hammered on social media, after offering his thoughts on Brexit during an interview about the ashes on BBC Radio 4th this week. Warn was previewing the fourth ashes test in Manchester when he strayed off topic in a big way. You don't want to do that, Warnie. I've lived here for a long time and I come here most summers to work, he said. A couple of things about the Brexit thing stand out to me.

Here we go. This is so good. I love him so much. So the first two sentences of this. A couple of things about the Brexit thing stand out to me. After 40 years or whatever it is. What? What is he talking about? I th? I th th th th th th th th th th th? I thi thi about? I thi about? I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thin thi thin thin thin thin' thin' thin' thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thin stand thin stand th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thin thin thin thin than than than than than than than than than than than to thanananananananananannn' toee an toe an toean. toeananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananan thanan thing stand out to me. After 40 years or whatever it is... What? What is he talking about? I think since the EU? They joined the EU? Yeah. Not since Brexit started.

Although it bloody feels like it, doesn't it? After 40 years or whatever it is, such a long time, you've asked the public to vote for these things. They vote. Then I saw it reported that the most search the public to vote for these things. They vote. Then I saw it reported that the most searched thing on Google after Brexit was done was, what is Brexit? So I found it very amusing to find out that people didn't know what they were voting for. I would love to get Warnie on here to explain Brexit. Oh, that'd be so good. Send an email to speak if you're one of Warni people. the warning. the warning. the warning. the warning. to the warning. to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. Send an email to speak. If you're one of Warnies people, hook us up, talk to our PR people, we'll get something

going on. Hey you guys at Buntavista.com, if you can organize Shane Warren getting on the blower and sorting out this Brexit thing. He says, and the second thing is, you've made the decision, it's done, get on with it. All this procrastinating about all this stuff, just get on with it. Boris is good, everyone's great, get on with it. Um, you lost me there. It's a great country, get on with it, he says. their great country, get on with it, he says.

Boris is good, everyone's great country. Get on with it. Is it? Maybe try the food there and then tell me if you think that. Damn. Take that, England. The Sun newspaper immediately picked up the story, running a headline screaming, Ozzy, cricket, legend, Shane Warren, backs Brexit.

But the overwhelming response to the former Spin King's comments was negative. It is unclear what expertise Warren has on the subject, but many people are... Not a lot. Yeah, the Brexit thing, 40 years or whatever. Get on with it. Ah, many people on social media urged him in so many words to butt out. And that's fair, you know. Step off. Shane Warren. This is our Brexit. It's our Brexit. And you know, if we want to, we're going to grab the controls and fly this baby

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I know people are listening to this podcast that simply had no interest in planes and are wondering why this is a part of the show now. Well they tune in to listen to your interests and your interests are planes. Certainly. What's going on in the wide world of plane? Oh well this is a this is a lovely headline I read this morning I missed this one you sent this one in the chat. Door blows off Boeing 7X during our 777X during stress test. So you may remember Boeing from such incidents as the two max plane crashes which killed a lot of people. So they're working on their 777X plane. So hold on a second, the other crashes they were not well received?

I feel like they're not very popular, you know, they're not the public response to these crashes, not good. Not great. So how many well-received crashes have there been? Well, I mean, I guess if you wanted to call Sully and his descent into the Hudson River a crash you could you could do that but I would you're absolutely you wouldn't call it that though I wouldn't call it that that was an emergency landing that he successfully pulled off he very successfully pulled it off some people call it a crash they're incorrect but I guess that one was a lot better received sure

that anyways the setback occurred on Friday the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th c. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the te te te. te. teeeeeea. trea. trea. tru. tru. tru. tru. the. the. th That's true. Can't argue with that. Anyways, the setback occurred on Friday, according to the Seattle Times, when the airplane's cargo doors exploded outward during a high-pressure stress test. So this is a test that they do for all planes. They basically put planes under conditions way more extreme than they would ever be under in a flight to just make sure everything's good. Just make sure, tick the boxes.

Mm-hmm, so they can pass the Federal Aviation Administration final test. This plane did not pass that test. Boeing previously said it would push back the 777X's first flight to 2020, and deliveries would be delayed amid problems with its general electric co-made turbines. Oh dear. The company is under heavy scrutiny for the 737 Max, grounded in April, after two crashes killed 346 people. No date is set for the plane's return to service. I don't know about you guys, but for me, one of the key things in a plane is a good set of doors that doesn't whiff off the plane while I'm flying. Hmm. It's definitely, it's up there on my list of top plane qualities. A door that flies off when you fly.

Things not going great over at Boeing. No. So what are they, obviously they're not like, they don't mainly make planes, right? They've got like other stuff that they do because this, they're like just dabbling in making planes. Yeah, it's just a side project. They've got all sorts of other stuff going on. Yeah. My side gig of making planes. Dipping a tiny little pinky finger into the plane building industry and fucking it up. Dippin' a toe. Certainly not having a good time. Sucks to be them.

Well, prayers up for Boeing. Let's hope you can either get that one... Yeah, get that one together. Just sort it out. You know, take the advice of legendary spin king Shane Warren and get on with it. Get on with it. Fixing the planes, just get on with it. Just get on with it. All this procrastinating about this stuff, just get on with it. Plains are good, everyone's great, get on with it. You know? Just take out the crashing part. Just get rid of it. How hard is it? Replace it with something else. Put a different door on it. I. I. I. I. I. I. Get it. I. I. I. I. I. Get on it. I. I. I. th. th. th. the th. the crashing part. Just get rid of it. How hard is it?

Replace it with something else. Put a different door on it. I know you guys seem set on this doors flying off and the plane's crashing feature. But I reckon you could just replace it with something else and people would like it. Why don't they just make the plane out of the black box material? Hey! Hey! You know? Anyways. Well, I feel like that's about it for the show for this week.

I feel that too. Okay, that's good. You're feeling it in your bones? You're feeling it in your jellies, as Detective Pikachu says in Pokemon Detective Pikachu the movie? Has the movie come out? It's good. It's very enjoyable. Oh, the movie. Has a movie come out? It's good. It's very enjoyable. Oh, the passage of time. Sure will fuck you up.

I will talk about anime for a second before we end the show. You've started watching the Jojo show, haven't you? I have started watching the Jojo show after being the Jojo is. He haven't seen any memes or just general talk about the Jojo show? I've just seen Jojo. Okay, it's called Jojo's Bizarre Adventure and I am certainly not an anime fan but I will say that it's the best program I've ever seen in my entire life. Wow. I urge everyone to just give it like 10 minutes and you'll be in. Where should I start if I was

going to watch it? At the start I think although I've been told the first season's not as good as the later ones so it's it's going to be a wild ride. Sure. Huh. Where we go? Noted. Pro anime. We're pro anime now. It's Polyamery next. Give it a few months. Well folks, that's it for us. If you would like an extra bonus episode every week, pop on over to Patreon.com forward slash Buentevista. Slap down five bucks a month, and that'll get you an extra episode every week. And if you would like to say buy a shirt, a coffee mug, perhaps, maybe even a tote bag for toting something, head on over to Buntavista.com forward slash merchandise and get yourself something.

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