Boonta Vista - EPISODE 144: That's Life!

Episode Date: April 13, 2020

Andrew, Theo and Ben look at dog actors, high-level government reports that the blame for COVID-19 lays at the feet of none other than Guy Sebastian, and the conservatives asking you to, please, take their parents. *** Support our show and get exclusive bonus episodes by subscribing on Patreon: www.patreon.com/BoontaVista *** Email the show at [e-mail]! Call in and leave us a question or a message on 1800-317-515 to be answered on the show! *** Twitter: twitter.com/boontavista Website: boontavista.com Merchandise: boontavista.com/merchandise Twitch: twitch.tv/boontavista

Hello and welcome Bonto Buena Vista, episode 144. I am here, lash to the mast of a ghostly, derelict ship, unable to die and forced to strain against my bonds for eternity as penance for the most heinous of crimes, mutiny. Hovering above the bow of the ship, taunting me with the sweet embrace of love that I will never again experience. It's the ghost of my ghost, the most heinous of crimes, mutiny. Hovering above the bow of the ship, taunting me with the sweet embrace of love that I will never again experience. It's the ghost of my by now surely dead wife, Theo. Hello, Theo.

Hey, how you going? Not great. I'm, um. Right. No, I. Sorry, I did just ask that out of, like, reflex reflex but I do see now that you are absolutely bound both in body and spirit to the front of the ship there. What do you call that goes out the front there? That's the prow. The prow. Yeah. I mean even if I was unable to well able to divorce myself from these physical chains and ropes I feel I would

still be unable to leave the ship regardless. I think I... Right, and that's because of the ghostly bonds that hold you here. Yes, spiritual and mental, perhaps my own guilt ties me to this ship knowing that I should not have betrayed my shipmates as thus. So yeah, probably stuck here until, I guess, judgment day. Yeah, getting nipped at by all sorts of critters, gone through storms and stuff, passing ships will take pot shots at me. It's not great. How are you

though? I'm sorry, that was rude. No, I'm good, look, you look. I do, I don't want to compare your problems to mine because it does seem like you've got a lot going on there. So I'll probably just shelve any complaints that I was going to have. Oh, look, you know, it's a part of human conversation talking about your complaints. You don't have to, not on my part. It's a bit chilly. I am up the front of this, the ship, with one, by the way, it has actually eased the burden of this a little bit for me.

Wouldn't have been bad at seeing two, but hey, I'm not going to, even one is, you know, great. It's just the way that this works with this long flowy garment that I've got here. It's sort of a one-titty sort of garment. You went into the ghostly dress store and you said have you got any sort of like over the shoulder one titty number one titty well we're not alone here flying ominously high above me surely an omen of ill portent it's a it's a great albatross it's Andrew hey Andrew call call I don't think that's the noises that an albatross would make but i'm the sound of an albatross. I'm not an ornithologist. Amateur or professional or otherwise.

Hey, just from up here, I gotta ask, your bonds, they look very ghostly, quite corporeal. It seems like you could just kind of, kind of wafed them away with your hand. Why don't you try that? You know, you th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th that I I don't that I don't that I don't that I don't that I don't that I don't that I don't that. I don't that's thioosk. I don't that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. th. the. th. the. the. th. the. th. the. the. the. the. that. the. the. the. your hand. Why don't you try that? I try that. I don't want to, no I appreciate it. I appreciate that you're trying to help. You have to understand I've been here for what could either have been months or thousands of years. And I've tried, I'm going to say at this point that I have tried wishing them away, simply slipping out of them. I've tried jumping off the boat every time I close my eyes on impact with the water and then when I open them again I'm back here I'm inside the ropes and I thank you for asking but yeah no that's not gonna I don't think that's gonna help me.

Well the good news is that when I do take a big albatross-sized shit, it goes right through you and hits the deck. It seems like I'm already dead, which is interesting. Well, you're dead, but you don't have bird shit on you. I'm trying to show you the silver lining. Yeah, but you seem pretty determined to be a bit of a downer about this. You think maybe it's my negative attitude that's keeping me here? Well, it's not helping. Maybe the only thing that could free me from this ship is the secret. What if I have visualized not being on this ship? Maybe the only thing that could help you was a positive attitude in this time, time of trouble. I'll give it a bash. I appreciate

that. Although it's hard to make a vision board with your arms pinned to your side by ghostly bonds. I don't, now I don't claim to be an expert on the secret despite maybe mentioning it in at least one out of every three episodes that we do. I don't know if the vision board is a necessary tool or just a useful aid to the visualization process. I also, I don't know if the secret operates by like witchcraft rules where you need Certain rituals for things to work. I'm not really sure but yeah a vision board is off the cards at this point Yeah, I guess so perhaps you could retreat to your mind palace and conjure a mental vision board Yep, although I yeah again, I don't know enough about the secret, but I'll give that a bash as well We really should get a secretologist on one of these episodes

Hmm I have been meaning for a long time to do an episode solely about the secret and maybe now that we're in a time of complete not a despair and desperation We think it's time to read the secret. I'd oh god, I'm probably gonna have to read the secret. I was gonna do it without without the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. thi. thi. the. th. thi. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the th. the th. the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the secret. the se. the se. the's time to read the secret? Oh God, I'm probably going to have to read the secret, aren't I? I was going to do it without reading it. What's the point? I might just watch the DVD again. I mean, I've seen it before when I was 17, but I might need a refresher. But surely they haven't. They haven't got everything in there, you know. You know, I mean the book's not very big. There are a lot of expansion books though Add-ons. I think the key is if you if you do notice an omission in the book All you have to do is sort of imagine what you'd like to fill that emission

And it will it'll be in there. That's true. That's the great power of the secret I guess I do have an issue with the expansion packs, I suppose. The DLC of the secret. The DLC for the secret, which is, it kind of has you asking the question, if the secret worked, then what's, what are the extra bits doing for you? Yeah, I think plot-wise they really painted themselves into a corner though. Hold on, the author of the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their expansion expansion the the the the expansion expansion expansion expansion expansion their expansion expansion their expansion their expansion their expansion their expansion their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the extra bits doing for you? Yeah, I think plot-wise they really painted themselves into a corner though. Hold on, the author of The Secret, Rhonda Byrne. She sure does. She also has another book called The Power.

I believe it's related to the Secret. It's a sequel. Does it say, have you got any info there on what? Oh, wow, that's very strange. Maybe the power was the secret, but after how well the secret sold, the secrets out by that point. There's no keeping that secret anymore. I tell you what, I reckon I saw the DVD from that in 2007. I saw the secret when it was fresh. I've been there since it's inception. I've been on that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that then then that then then then then then then then thaten thaten thaten that's very thathea that's very that's very thrain very thrain very thrain very thrain very that that that that that that that that's very very very very very very that's very very that in 2007. I saw the secret when it was fresh.

I've been there since its inception. I've been on that train early. Big secret, head. Wait, the film came first. Really? No. I'd refuse to believe that. All right.

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Nobody knows. That's the secret. That's the secret? That's... Where, it wouldn't be called the secret if we knew what the secret was. Oh dear. I guess it's time to check in on what's happening in the big world of coronavirus. Where we're all inside, looking at our phones all day, telling our children to shut up, shut up.

Shut up! I assume that's what everyone else is doing, you know? I mean I'm mostly yelling at my dog to get out of it. Out of it, you grab. Yeah, you gotta love saying, get out of it. It's really satisfying to yell th th th th th th th th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, that, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, to, tog. tog. togu. togu. togs, togu. togs, togs, togs, togs, togu. togs, togs, get out of it. It's really satisfying to yell at something. I do say that of my kids too, I gotta say. Get out of it. What are they getting into?

Oh, you know what I've started saying to my kids, that feels really good. Knock it off? That's another great one to yell. No, when they'll either ask me for something which I give to to to their it I've given it to them I say now be gone and I gotta say saying be gone to a being who is much smaller than you feel casting from your vision just it makes you feel like fucking Max for side hours Ming the merciless. Yeah oh you've been cast out of the kitchen. Yeah.

Now, I hereby, banish you from the bathroom where I'm about to take a shit. That's right. Now that does sound fun, but I think there's something really special about flipping a pet off. Oh, yeah. I would never do that to my dog. Oh, I love saying fuck you to my cat. And just like getting your finger right up in their face. Because they only have like the vaguest kind of ability to translate shapes into

metaphorical meaning. And most of that's just based around you reaching for food. They simply have no idea that they're being insulted and being laid low by a vicious middle finger. Okay, so this leads me to another topic. We're moving away from coronavirus for a moment. And that's good because we're all sick of it, frankly. But I will say it's related only in the sense that coronavirus has been causing me to re-watch a lot of old movies that I love. I was quite worried recently to realize that a movie like Cliffhanger could absolutely be

classified as an oldie by this point. Because that came out a long time ago. Cliffhanger came out in like you know 90-90 or something like that came out a long time ago. Cliffhanger came out like you know 90-90 or something like that you know. So anyway I was watching I was watching the one of the two major animals slash police buddy comedy cop movies first being Turner and Hooch. Of course. Sorry Tom Hanks and a dog. And the second being canine. Starring John Belushi and a dog. So John Belushi, he's a cop, he likes to work alone. He's a loose cannon, but he gets paired up with a partner. But this partner is, record scratch, a dog? Bo? Oh? And so, record scratch, a dog? Bo?

Oh? And so, you know, there's scenes where the dog does not cooperate with what he wants to do. I mean, hey, if the dog just followed his every command, smoothly and easily, wouldn't be much conflict there in the script, you know? But instead, hey, they're the odd couple at the start. He's telling the dog to do stuff stuff stuff the the dog st st st st st to do stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff the dog the dog the dog the dog the dog thoom stuff thoom stuff thoes not thoes not thoes not thoom.. thoom. thoes thoes thoes thoomorrow thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thee the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi thi thi thi th in the script, you know? But instead, hey, they're the odd couple at the start. He's telling the dog to do stuff. The dog's not doing it. He yells in the dog's face and I was watching this and I said to my wife, do you think the dog knows that he's acting in a movie? Because like you tell, you can train a dog to do dog stunts in a movie? I'm sure we the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the the. the. thrain a dog to do the dog stunts in a movie. I'm sure we've all seen John Wig three.

Yep. I haven't seen it. Oh God for fuck sake. So you can get on that. You can train a dog to do things. But there's a point in this movie where, um, did I say John Belushi? the brother from according to Jim. Did I say John Belushi before? Because I absolutely met James Belushi. Neither of us were the brother from according to Jim.

Pull you up on that at all. It wasn't a chance in the world. So there's scenes where the dog is terrorizing criminals who are like up on a bar shrieking while this terrifying German shepherd barks and snaps and tries to bite them. There's scenes where like the dog's getting told off and someone's yelling in its face for a while and I'm like, I wonder if the dog is like, okay he's doing his lines and I'm pretending to be sad or is the dog just like now I'm being yelled at and I don't know why. I've been commanded to sit still and now this man is pointing his finger in my face, he's flipping me off. He's saying, fuck you, dog. You know, are we just causing distress to this poor poor German

shepherd who as far as I know was not actually a real policeman so we get to pass? I think so. I surely like emotional resilience training is part of becoming a dog actor is like having someone acting aggressive towards you, you're trained to know that it's acting, right? To be like, it's okay though, he's not really going to kill you. He's not going to hit you with a stick. Yeah. When...

Yeah, just a lot of scenes of James Belushi being like, you're an asshole. The dog goes, It is fun to call them names. Although the dogs are noises more than likely done in post. You know? Oh, you reckon they are 80-yard that in the dog's like in the booth doing those like loops so I can sink up the lip movements properly. Yeah, the dogs like, oh, that was like, oh, sorry, let me take that again. I have a little bit of water here. And the trouble is when you have to dub it for, you know, like French or Italian audiences

and you have to make the same. Yeah, but fit the, fit the mouth movements, vocal patterns, very difficult. That's why they're this, of course, also led me on to my other big philosophical concern about movies, which is, um, I, I I I I I I I I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, oh, I was, I was, I was, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, th they're paying them. This of course also led me on to my other big philosophical concern about movies, which is, I was thinking about the scene in American Sniper. Never seen it. The movie about Chris Kyle. Oh, wait, no. No, I haven't seen it. It's the one with the fake baby and he's the guy that... It's the one with the fake baby baby. It's that's a a a a a a baby. It's a baby baby. It's a the the th. It's a th. It's a th. It's a th. It's a th. It's a the th. It's a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. It's th. It's th. It's the one. It's the one. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's the one. It's the one. It's the one. It's the one. It's the the the the the the the the th. It's th. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's the the the th. It's the the the the the th. It's the the the the the the one. It's the one. It's the one. It's the one. It's the one. It's the one. It's the one. It's the one. It's the one. It's the one with the fake baby. Because that's the thing everybody remembers about. The Clintyswood directed hagiography of a psychopath and serial fantasist, Chris Kyle.

And everybody remembers the scene where Bradley Cooper is like comforting a very clearly rubber baby. And everyone was like, huh, that's silly. And I was like, you know what? Number one, it's acting. That's fine. fine fake baby you're not really killing people in movies like in John Wick 3 which we've all seen because this this is a thing I'm sure I've said before ever since having kids now when I see an actual really upset crying baby in a movie I'm like give that baby back to its parents yeah no doubt standing four feet four feet out of the frame, giving the baby the thumbs up and

signing like a contract or something. I'm sure there's like lots of stuff in place and some sort of something going on or whatever, but it always just feels shit. He's like, someone go over there right now. See like Charlie's Theoron holding a very distraught 14-month-old that is constantly looking off camera? Ugh. And I'm like, you know what?

Baby doesn't know it's acting. But the inverse of that... The dog might, baby doesn't. You know when you see in movies where like the actor, as like the character is having a quite positive interaction with like a very young child or an animal where you know that you can't script the behavior of the very young child or depending on the type of animal, that part of that has to be an authentic kind of exchange of being like, oh, the baby just like try to pick something up and they react to it quite naturally.

I always think that's quite nice. I'm like, oh, that's them actually doing something a little bit sincerely. But then that's probably just one out of a dozen takes for the rest of the baby is just screaming because they're like, why is Mark Ruffalo holding me? Who is Mark Ruffalo? Where is my papa? Or they're like, you're fucking baby. Get back at you. So unprofessional. What age do you have to stop flipping the birdie birds thulled the bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird the bird the bird the bird the bird to the bird at babies. 21. I'll say this, it took me a while.

It's a while to stop like. It's hard to wean yourself off of old habits. Oh you can say it they don't know, you know. Are you deeply ingraining some sort of issue? Maybe. Does a nine-year-old know what it means when you call them a Gibrodi? Yes. Oh, dear. Oh, dear.

Yeah, it is a constant battle. To be like, what's, what can I say to you? Trying to, try to get my kids used to, especially the older one. It's hard to figure out the line for like, I guess, sort of teasing humor, and by that I mean like, I don't know, I'm trying to think of an example. But, uh, something where, you know, you're making a joke about

something the other person did that very clearly didn't happen. I've tried like very, very obviously winking while I'm doing it to indicate that I don't really think that that thing happened. But yeah, sometimes I like, I don't like that kind of joke. And I go, all right, that one's, that one's out out out, that, that that that that that one's out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out that one's out that one's out, that one's out, that that that that that that that that that that's out, that that that's that's that that's out, that's that's out, that, that's like, I don't like that kind of joke. And I go, all right, that one's out until we get it, you know? Because you can't be like, no, no, it's fine. Even though you feel like you were being mocked in front of everybody, that's not what I was doing, so you just live with it. Instead, I think you have to stop doing that kind of joke. Just for a while, just you can figure it out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out that th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th, th. I, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. And, thi. And, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi, thi, thi doing that kind of joke. Just for a while. Just so you can figure it out, you know?

Anyway over to Australian News. What a beautiful segue that was. So smooth. So smooth. Hey, remember the Greens? The Australian Greens party? Yes. You do.

If this is one of those like cognitive decline tests I can also tell you what year it is and draw a clock whatever is required of me. Okay well let's start with the year. 2025 haven't seen the sun for a long time. It's cold down here in the bunker. I thought you were on a ship, a ghost ship. No that was just a thing that we do for the intro of the episodes. I wonder if Andrew understands that. I'm just committed to the bit. I'm on a bicycle.

I understand that you have to be committed to the bit until the episode of End of the things. That's right. Method acting like like a dog. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. right. Method. I'm at the circus. This life is hell. Method acting like a dog. So yeah, Green's, what is she, Senator? She's a Senator. It's actually in her Twitter handle which I believe you're looking at. I am. Sarah in the Sen number eight. Very cool. Remember skate or die in the letter. Letter, number, oh no. Oh no, confusing numbers and letters again. What about the TV show Sensate? Never watched it. Didn't, I didn't, I didn't either. Yep, that's what I was trying to say. Welcome to. It's a podcast where we use words to create pictures. Truly evocative stuff.

So she posted a little tweeey on April the 10th. Now, all right, Theo, I would like you to describe several things to me. Let's start with, we're going to start with. There's a lot here. Okay, so she's posted a screen capture from the Instagram account of Australian Christian Music Sensation and Australian Idol season one winner Guy Sebastian. Yes. I think he also does secular music as well. Yeah, maybe he does, but it gets most of his money from that Christian Market baby. So describe to me the post Theo.

All right so we've got a post from Guy Sebastian it is location tagged from Wuhan comma China. Now we've got Guy Sebastian he's in a Harley Davidson t-shirt. Beautiful. Dude that's so sick. Dude I just saw your shirt bro. is that like the motorcycle? Very sick. Like the bike, I don't have one either, but... Yeah, dude, I was thinking about getting one those as well. One of the shirts, I can't, I don't know how to ride a motorbike, but that's sick, dude. Yeah. Do you like the stones? They're fucking sick. And he's, he's sitting with a the he's sitting with a th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's sitting with a th. He's th. He's sitting with a th. He's a th. He's a th. He's a th. He's a th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the their. I's like, their. I's like, I's like, I's like, I's their. I's their. I's the the the the the the the t. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I's a t. I's a t. I's a t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. I's a t. S. S. S. S. S. I's. S. I's. I's. S. I'm. I'm. S. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm like, t. I'm like, t be an older gentleman, and they're making kind of a... I don't know, it looks like they're sharing a secret, but I'm sure it's a hand-trop-trop gesture or something. And he's got the subtotal there, loved hanging out in Wuhan, comma, China.

Ait some seriously interesting things. More to come about that. And met some beautiful people. China is stunning in so many ways. Hashtag China. Hashtag Let Me Drink. Now, could you just, uh, maybe cast your steely gaze upon the date at the bottom there? So this is dated the 2nd of November 2019. Which... That was kind of... I don't know about you guys, but I think what's really interesting for me is that the next picture in this series is him eating a pangolin stir fry.

I am especially a fond of the in brackets, more to come about that. Oh, God. You can't like... But as we were kind of discussing pre-the-show, it's hard to know what to make of this screenshot. I couldn't find it in his Instagram account. Now that might have been, because I had a guy look. I don't know if you guys have wives, but... Oh, Jesus Christ.

Maybe if we can get them to have a look. Oh, you do? Oh. Well, does a lot of your conversation about having a guy look relate to where something is to be found in the refrigerator? Well, I find either in the refrigerator or or at the back of the shelf where we keep the board games and miscellaneous vases that we have in our house. So the what?

Miscellaneous vases and I'm looking for perhaps a small ornate statue of a rabbit that we use once a year for Easter. I can't find it anywhere. Is it in the shelf with the board games? It is in the shelf with the vases. Is it on Guy Sebastian's Instagram feed? Who's to say? Do you think maybe you would have been able to find these things more readily if you'd perhaps

had a girly look? I think there's perhaps the blame in all of this. Now, see this is interesting because I know that this is like, it's a real thing middle-aged couples love saying to each other, at least in Australia. I am the person in our relationship that finds things. I am the one who has the ability to look for something and know where it is. I love George Tobits. I wouldn't her for anything except her incredible inability to find anything at any time. And when you know I was having a guy look I did have a girl look and I found the post. I enjoyed the reply from basketball forever that says Shannon Noel would never have done this. Shadone all of course the runner-up in the Australian Idol.

That's right. Which guy Sebastian won? So, my Sebastian. The post is real. The text is real. Is it? Yes, it is real. And so, I guess what's important here is

Green Senator Sarah Hanson Young tweeted a screenshot of this, perhaps a screenshot she herself took, judging by the time that the tweet was posted, the time the screenshot was taken, you can tell what time the screenshot was taken, because she hasn't cropped out the little status bar along the top of the phone which tells us a few things. Tells us this was taken at 1054 in the a.m. She had 53% battery. She was on power saving mode, probably to forestall any battery issues later in the day. Tell she had two bars of signal, but she was on Wi-Fi, but we could also tell another thing which iPhone users will know about this. If you're on a a a the the the status the status the status the status thiiiiiuuuffffed thiuffed thiuffed thiuffed thiuffiuffiuffiuffi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thiolioluffi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tipipe, tipipe, thae, thae, thae, tom. tom. tom. tom. tom. tom. tom. t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, tom. tom. tom. tom. tom. tomb just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just justeaa, toguuiolu. tipeau'ea'e. tipea'ea'e. tipe. te. te. te. te. te. tog know about this, if you're in a phone call,

your status bar will be green and show a little phone icon, which in this case has happened here. So she was talking to someone on the phone? In the middle of a phone call. And someone said to her, hey, you've got to check out this post from Guy Sebastian. And she's looked at it, and she's gone, oh my sweet goodness, she's taken a screenshot and then approximately half an hour later she's posted to Twitter with the caption, what the heck? What the heck? What the heck indeed? Now what do we think, you know, every rhetorically asked question you know has some sort of implication in it right?? What do we think she's implying here?

What is the point of interest that is making her share this image? Can I have a go here? Yes, I'll allow it, but this better be going somewhere, Counselor. Now look, I think it's safe to say that we all want to assume the best of Australian Green Senator Sarah Hanson Young. She would never, she would never just fly off the interest the interest the interest the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th th of the of the of the of the of the of the of the of the of the of interest the of interest the of interest the of interest thus the of interest that that that that that that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that's that's that's that's there there there the the the the the the the the of the the the of the the the the theate theate thininniiiiiiiiiiiauu.auiauia thia thia thia thia thi. thi to assume the best of Australian Green Senator Sarah Hanson Young. She would never she would never just fly off the handle do anything crazy. That said I think that she is accusing Australian Idol season one winner Guy Sebastian of contracting and spreading coronavirus to the world. Of perhaps being would you say patient zero of COVID-19?

Patient one, being the first. Of all the patients, he is number zero. Patient first guy. Yeah, that's what they call them the medical biz. Patient Numero, the big kahuda himself. Guy Sebastian, the first human host of the virus now identified as COVID-19. You don't want to put words in people's mouths but I do I sincerely believe that reading between the lines and there is just

one line I guess with what the heck from Sarah one line and it has the thing written on it. It is heavily implied that Guy Sebastian winner of Australian Idol maker of pop music that sells at the exit for gas stations that sort of thing I go in trouble last time for saying gas stations petrol service station service say whatever you want say whatever you want. We know what you mean and knowing the meaning is more important than the literal words themselves so please don't ever criticize us, thank you very much. That's right. We have to say a whole bunch of words all in a row and

some of them will be wrong. Most of them. But guy Sebastian, responsible for at this date, 114,000 deaths. Oh, 1.8 million confirmed. Placing him at the, I believe, above serial killers, but below your Hitler's. Still, I believe, about 270 billion deaths to catch up on before he is shoulder to shoulder with communism. Wow. Yeah. Yes, and these tricky, I believe, because as we've found out online, every one of these

deaths also adds on the communism counter. Oh, it's right. So he's in a sort of a birthday situation where he will be gaining but never quite catching up with the communism count there. He will never be older than his dad. That's true of so many people. Now just a stress. Well hold on.

We're not making this allegation. No. So before we get to this, right? I want to play a little game, which is, can anybody look at this post and try to divine any other implication from this other than the one that we have? What the heck? Guy Sebastian eating interesting things at the Wuhan market?

A month before it was identified. All of this jazz? What the heck? So what else could this possibly mean? Can anybody come up with any, it could, you know, maybe it means that's a funny coincidence that he has posted this online? I'm having trouble coming up with much else though because outside of the context of the thing which is ravaging the planet and is all any of us can talk or think about, I can't see what other contexts and stuff. This is kind of relevant in, does anybody have anything? I think what I saw

bandied about by her, I think she also deleted this explanation, was not so much that he had caused the transmission of COVID-19 to humans, it was that he somehow knew something was about to happen. Okay. The more to come. She specified that it was the more to come that it was like just funny and interesting that he sort of inadvertently signaled that something else was about to happen. And let's just put it out there, it is both funny and interesting. Not the not the hundred thousand people dying. That's neither funny nor interesting. The other part. I guess it's interesting.

Yeah, so we've had a go. We've had to go both ways. And she has then deleted the tweet and posted another tweet saying, I've deleted the guy Sebastian tweet. Despite many understanding the context and the reasons guys post is trending online today, others have taken offense. What is that context, the reasons guys post is trending online today, others have taken offense. What is that context, do you think? Is it the coronavirus thing? I wish we could find out what the world at large?

Is it the massive cynephobia that the wet market business is causing, that causes psycho-Australians to go up and yell at people of Asian descent in the street or spray paint things outside their house or get into fights with them at supermarkets? Or is it probably that whole-violent? Or is it probably that whole-violent?'t, but... I did see that guy. I don't like him. I don't think we could be friends. There's already a few signs that we just probably wouldn't have a rapport. But yeah, like, so despite everybody else understanding the context, others have taken offense at my subtle, my subtle implication that Guy Sebastian either caused

or was aware of coronavirus. If you, the listener, have another theory as to what she was trying to convey, please feel free to let us know, Mailbagpunovis.com, or you can leave a voicemail for us. I can't scroll through this document quickly enough. One eight hundred three one seven five one five let us please do. Now look that's the fun side of coronavirus. Uh huh. That's the funny part. You heard it here first, folks. He asked.

That's the funny part. It's good that we're not successful enough to be cancelled. Like, can you imagine if we, you know, if we were, and then they're like, here's an audio clip of them laughing at coronavirus Let's never get to that level Let's not we'll just end up with a quote that's just got the dot dot dot dots in between so it's Something like I love dot dot dot dot here's the funny thing about coronavirus dot dot dot dot Sinophobia and then Dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot

Oh my goodness However, it turns out there is a dark side to coronavirus Oh, no, and that is this this new type of post this new type of opinion piece that has come from the usual sorts of culprits and there is a post that the the theyre, uh, their type of post that? That's their, the theyneu-uh, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, their, th, thy, thy, thy, thy, thy, their, their, their, their, their, their, um, uh, uh, uh, their, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their the new type of opinion piece that has come from the usual sorts of culprits and there is a post that they went up in the Australian Financial Review from senior writer John Kehoe entitled lives matter but at what cost question mark like we talk about this a lot right that the fact that internet digital journalism is fucking desperate for clicks above all else because it's all advertising driven and that they know that largely the only way to get traffic is driven by outrage or by saying something that's obviously wrong or insensitive or whatever, but like, just seeing a headline like that where you can say

maybe the writer is acting in good faith and they are writing what they genuinely hold to be their beliefs. Reducing it down to that headline is just such fucking desperation for people to be mad at you so that people actually fucking share your fucking article. Lives matter but at what cost is such a, like that's not even the argument they're trying to make, or at least it is, but they're framing it in the most obnoxious way possible. I hate this shit so much.

Really boils my loins. Well, if you hate the headline, you gotta love the article. So let's breeze through some of it here. Scott Morrison says, every Australian matters in scare quotes, like that is patently untrue. It doesn't matter if they've just been born or they're approaching the end of their life, end quote. The Prime Minister was responding to criticism that governments are inflicting economic destruction on a generation of working-edge Australians to save the lives of overwhelmingly older people from the coronavirus. Now apart for the fact that's right off the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the th th th th th th th th the tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho-a tho-a tho-upo-upo-n. tho-upo-upo-upo tho tho tho-soa-soa-soa-soa-soa-soa-soa th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th-n. I th-n. I th-n. I th-s, th-s, the-s, the-s, the-s, thean-s, to-s, thean. thin, theanneneneuuuuu theannenenene. the the of overwhelmingly older people from the coronavirus. Now apart from the fact that that's right off the bat not true.

I mean, yes, obviously you're trying to protect the most vulnerable people, which does include elderly people. It includes immunocompromised people, it includes disabled people, and in a lot of cases it includes like in America the people that are being hugely disproportionately affected in cities like Chicago or African American people. A lot of minimum wage workers, all that sort of stuff. But to this guy, it's old people, that's it.

Inflicting economic destruction on a generation of working age Australians. That's a cool demographic. Yeah, they're also a fun demographic to just have one hand at all times. Hey, hey, bro, you still making value? Are you still able to generate a profit for somebody? Because there's that demographic, the great big one in the middle, and then there's all the chaff around. Why are we even keeping you guys around? Yep. As we headed to Easter, the

devoutly Christian Morrison is struggling his desire to preserve lives with its economic pragmatism as a former treasurer to save jobs. Federal and particularly state governments who put people's physical health first while engineering a deep recession by shutting down business activity. Again, this idea that they said, you know what we would love is a recession as opposed to this is kind of a thing that has to happen as a secondary, a secondary result of this. As a result, Australia is now successfully flattening the coronavirus curve as the growth in new infections slows significant. Yes, because of the thing thi thi thi-the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, their, thi.a, thi.a, thi.a, and, thi.a, thi.a, thi.a, thi.a, thi.a, their, their, anding the coronavirus curve as the growth in new infections slows significant. Yes, because of the thing that you just mentioned. Yes, because of the thing they're

actually doing. Yet there is a high economic and social price being paid. Quote, a very large economic contraction is expected to be recorded in the June quarter and the unemployment rate is expected to increase to its highest level for many years, the Reserve Bank of Australia says, much will depend on the success of the efforts to contain the virus and how long the social distancing measures need to remain in place in quote. Whereas the, I mean this guy does have one genius point in that if you're dead you don't count towards the unemployment numbers. It's true. Which are the most important numbers apparently. I hate to see an unemployment number. The nation needs innovative and least worst policy responses, holistically considering people's physical health, mental well-being,

economic livelihood, social cohesion and civil order. In contrast to countries where the virus is spread aggressively, Australia has had the opportunity to draw breath and publicly debate the trade-offs of coronavirus policy and the future easing of restrictions. Hey guys, you know how we've got it so good compared to everybody else? What if we didn't? What if we... What if we... This is the thing that is like... Since we haven't been completely fucked up, we've got time to decide whether we want to be completely fucked up or not. It's maddening because this is just, this entire thing is just like the anti-vaccination debate.

It is just people saying, well, you know, nobody has measles anymore, so what are we bothering with the measles stuff? Hey, nobody's got polio. Why are we both, you know, like it's wee wee we- it's we- like, we we we we we we we we we we want, we want, we want, we want, we want, we want, we want, we want, we, we, we want, we, we, we want, we want, we, we, we, we want, we, we want, we, we, we, to, we, we, we, we, we, we, we want to, we want to, we want to, we want to be wo, we want to, we want to, we want to, we want to, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, th. th. th. th. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, stuff? Hey, nobody's got polio. Why are we both, you know, like it's just this whole thing of, hey, we acted quickly, relatively quickly, and decisively, and shut a bunch of stuff down and kept a bunch of people in. We're trying to figure out the areas where that can be relaxed. I know there is a lot of debate about that stuff in Australia. There is a lot of debate the a the a the is a lot of debate about, you know, the, the, you know, Australia's default impulse in any

situation to say, we'd better give the cops the more ability to hit somebody with a stick and to issue fines to them and everything. But, um, you know, and whether or not things like telling people that they can't go out and sit on a park bench is worthwhile, which it's not. But I, like just for me personally, I think that starting out with let's go really hard on setting the expectation that people be doing strict social distancing and everything and then figure out what we can reintroduce is better than doing it the other way around and saying, let's, you know, what they try to to th th th th th th th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th what, that that that that that that that, that, you that, you that, you that, you that, you that, you that, that, you that, thi. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. to, to, the. to, to, the. the. the. the. that. the. that. that better than doing it the other way around and saying let's you know what what they tried to do in that first week or two of saying like well you can go and get your hair cut but it

has to take half an hour or less and you you can do this but there can only be this many people in the room they were trying to do all of these like you know little specific variations of things things things things th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thin. thi. thin. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thin thin thin. thin. thin. I thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, the theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee an the an thee an the an thin. And thin. And the there can only be this many people in the room that were trying to do all of these like you know little specific variations of things people cannot track that shit. I think if you're trying to issue large public health edicts you have to have like simplistic things that most people can understand. To me the parallel to that is like um is like the foods you can eat when you're pregnant thing because my wife and I talked about this a lot when we were having kids which was you know they tell you don't eat any sushi and don't eat don't eat like soft cheese and all these things that they say don't don't do any of these things don't drink alcohol and all that sort of stuff.

And if you actually like examine a bunch of these things in detail, you will find that it's fine to have like, you know, one glass of wine a day, it's fine to, it's not the eating soft cheese that's the problem, it's the getting Listeria from like you know unpasteurized milk and shit like that. But the point is that these things can happen in very unlikely scenarios or really really low rates. But what's easier for people to understand? Like don't eat raw fish and soft cheese or is it easier if you say now look depending on where the fish came from and what a year it is, and how long it's been sitting around for, and, oh, and like what kind of cheese was it? Where do you live? What's the,

how was that pasteurized? Like, all of that sort of shit, it's just easier as a public health thing to say. Here's a flat rule. If you want to go and come on. Yeah, if you want to kind to kind to kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind the the the the the the the th, the th, th, the the th, thi, th, thi, the the thi, the the the the the thi, thi, thi, the thi. thi. thiole thiole thiomome thiom. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. ta. tipea. tipea. tipea. thaea. thaea. thea. thea. Yeah if you want to kind of think around that and I know the lot of stuff is strict but hey what if everybody just died instead what if we just said hey ease off on all of that you know? And I don't like being alive but I don't know what the other thing is. Don't know what the other thing is. That's scary. He continues physical distancing international burne the health system while it builds their th th to to to to th th th. th. th. the th. the th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. the th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. thi thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the. the have taken pressure off the health system while it builds extra capacity. Again, sounds good. Yet a generation of people in the prime of their lives are suffering the brutal consequences of economic and social hardship.

Unemployment is surging, businesses are closing, incomes are being slashed, people are hurting. Again, that's true. and it's a result of the not having the pandemic absolutely ravaging our populace and our health system. Have I got that right? Yeah, we've got the good problems. Yes. We've got the ones that people want to have when you kind of measure up against how people are doing in this horrible time. The job shedding pain has spread further than political leaders envisaged.

People in tourism, travel, sport, fitness, retail, events and hospitality are not the only workers suffering. Professions assumed to be relatively secure, such as accountants and lawyers are being forced onto four-day work weeks are being forced on to four-day work weeks. We finally got the four-day work week. We did it, everyone. 20% pay cuts. Again... This is why they're putting all of the death toll on the communism pile.

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we're doing on the front end of this that he's talking about as being good and stopping a lot of deaths and everything is the, this is the thing that everybody's going to do to make the collective sacrifice to protect our community and our country and everything. And part of that that bleeds on is, yes, a lot of people are losing jobs and also a bunch of people are getting pay cuts and all that sort of thing, myself included. But that's the, but it's like it's this, or it's we all go about our business

and like a shitloader, old people die, a shitload of people with health problems die. Yeah, and I think probably now's a good time to bring up that the vast majority of economists believe that if you let people go out now, right? you just lift it and let people go about their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, th......... th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's, tho, tho, tho, thoomooomoomooomoooomoomorrow, thooo, thooooooooo, thoooooo, thooo, out now, right, you just lift it and let people go about their business, that the economy will collapse anyway. If a whole shitload of people get very, very sick and then die and then everybody's afraid to go out and do this stuff, the economy is going to collapse one way or the other.

And if that's what you care about, if that's all you care about, then this is the least bad option. And your option then is to look at, well, what do we do to make this not so uneven? So the people that are still in work, the people that have lost their jobs, that's not applying, you know, differently to everybody,

that everyone has a fair kind of go at still being able to live a reasonable life. Because we still have food, we still have shelter as much as the landlords would like you to convince your house disappears when people stop paying rent. But, like, nothing, nothing that these freaks say, and it's, I guess this guy is probably the mildest of them because they range from this through the IPA dipshits that they keep having on ABC for some reason through to actual fascists. Like nothing that they say will actually materially improve the situation. It'll just mean that a whole shit like people will die, right? Like that's the, that's the rupp in all of this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this. th th thi thi. This. This thi. This thi. This thi thi thi thi they's they's they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they're their their their their their their the the the situation, it'll just mean that a whole shit like people will die, right? Like that's the, that's the rub in all of this.

Well, like you said, it's the same thing as Trump in the US initially saying, yeah, we'll have a week or two, a lockdown, and then we're gonna crank the big economy engine at Easter and just open everything back up again. Just cranking that coronavirus dial and looking back at the the the the the the the the th.. Right, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, tho, tho, tho, tho, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. That, th. That, thi, the the the the the the the the the the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, like, that, like, that, like, that, th cranking that coronavirus dial and looking back at the crowd. Yeah, yeah. And like he said, what that's going to result in is lots of deaths, your hospital system being completely overwhelmed and incapable of dealing with anything which is going to result in lots more deaths. And that's the kind of stuff that I think is going to make people even more scared than they are by this very unusual situation of having to just kind of self-isolate and stay

home and like, you know, I'm just, I'm so aware of like how comparatively to a lot of people in the world safe my existence is. And it's still hard not to be unnerved by just how different everything is. Like I went to run into the supermarket yesterday because we needed to get some stuff. And my wife and kids stayed in the car, and I went in.

And so there was a lady standing at the entrance to the Woolworth with like a nightclub door clicker thing and a big sign saying we're limiting the number of people who can come into the store at one time so that everybody can have lots of space and they had like a big nightclub type rope situation set up for people to queue with stickers on the ground for how far you should stay from each other. And that extended like however far out of the front of the supermarket. And then there was just a whole bunch of people milling around, not quite knowing how to line up or where to stand or whatever and everybody's just kind of milling around this little crowd and I just sort of got there and went, no and turned around and walked off. And I just, I immediately said, no. I just to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. I'm just, their their. I their their their their their their their their their their their their a a their a their a their a their a their a their a their a their a their their their. I'm just, their their their their their their their. I'm just, their their. I'm just, their their. I'm just, their. I'm just. I'll tie. I'll. Iuu. Iu. Iu. Iu. Iu. Iu. Iu. Iu. I weck. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm a don't want to start this process.

It's stressing me out. I went over to the Aldi, which was there, and walked right in, and then there were heaps of people in the store, and I was like, this is bad too. All very unsettling, you know, but I feel like being unsettled about how you get into the supermarket or whatever, it's better than being unsettled by, you get into the supermarket or whatever is better than being unsettled by, say, your country posting the highest numbers of deaths due to this virus in the world. Or all of the people who are still being forced to go to work starting to die in crazy

numbers, you know, all that kind of thing. But this guy's got some other ideas. He does a little, a little lamenting of recessions of being correlated with rises in suicide crime, domestic violence. It's got a little thing about how when people come unemployed, their well-being fall sharply. Shocking news. Which we don't, we want to do something about that now, right? But not like other times. Yeah. What we like to do the rest of the time is hit the people who don't have jobs with a big stick and say,

why don't you have a job yet? The public will grow more agitated as the economic and social consequences unravel. The decision makers, taxpayer-funded politicians and public servants will never know what it's like to lose a six-figure salary and join a doll queue, or receive a wage subsidy equivalent to only $39,000 a year. My six-figure salary. It's so nuts that this is their way of saying that politicians are out of touch. Yeah, and I should say as well, like I was reading a copy of the Camberra Times, that's a newspaper, and there was a little snippet in there from the Prime Minister being on Alan Jones's show and

he was asked by Alan Jones oh all these people are losing their jobs shouldn't shouldn't we be however they want to put it you know sharing the pain shouldn't other people have to feel a bit of the pain too shouldn't we be looking at you know making making pay cuts to the public service and doing redundancies in the public service. And Morrison's answer was no, like just a flat out, no, we're not looking at that at all. That does not register at all. And outside of times like this, the extremely common refrain of conservatives in Australia is. The public service is too big, they're all lazy and it's all

a big bludge and they're all stealing your money and the public service should be smaller and we should be shrinking it and everything like that. But in a situation like this, they've completely dropped the normal ideological framing that they have about that and just said, no, why would we do that? Because what is the reason for doing that? If the entire thing thi th th th ththe th ththe th ththe th ththe th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, thi, thi, thi, the their their thi, and their all, and their all, and their all, and their all, and their all, and their all all all all all all all their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th.... thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the, and their th said, no, why would we do that? Because what is the reason for doing that? If the entire thing that the government is trying to do, and in this guy's view, the thing that they should be trying to do is keep people in their jobs and stop as many people as possible from losing their incomes and going on with a dull cue and tho their jobs, how does their think, how does ss, how does ss, how does sa, how does sa, how is, how is s... And, how is s. And, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi, thin, and their, and thin, thi, thi, thi, and going, and going, and going, their, and going, and going, and going, and going, and going, and going, and going, and going, and going, and going, and going, and going, and going, and going, and going, and going, and going, and going, and going, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thin, their, their, thin, their, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thoooo.e. If, thi. thin, their, their, their, thin,? How does telling, like, how does saying, oh a lot of other people lost their jobs,

so a bunch of public servants in secure employment should lose their jobs too, just to make someone feel better? I mean, that's their first reflex, isn't it? To cut public service, I mean, it's worth a try. Don't know why, but... Well, it is just interesting, I guess, I th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess, I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the.a, thei.a. thea. try, try try, the.a.a.a. try try, tooo but well it is it is just interesting I guess in these times to see how quickly a lot of conservatives have just completely dropped all of their the ideological posturing about this type of issue and said no no no we're gonna stop pretending that like you know we don't need to have a public

service or that we should be stripping all of the money out of like Medicare and giving it to the private health industry or any of those things. They've just gone, oh no, no, no, that's a bit that we normally do when we've got nothing going on. But in this case, now we all actually know that it matters to have a social safety net and a matters to have a health care system that works and is adequately funded. And it's good to have a bunch of public servants in secure employment, all that kind of thing. So he says public frustration is already building on infringements against civil liberties such as going to the park, a long car drive, fishing and playing golf. I hate him when my six-figure salary gets taken and I can't play golf. I'm a man of the people. I just want to get out on the back nine. Ugh. Failing that at the front nine, you know? Moreover, it is legitimate to ask if

policy makers should prioritize people of all ages equally. Get ready to get dark everybody. The coronavirus overwhelmingly kills older people. ages equally. Get ready to get dark, everybody. The coronavirus overwhelmingly kills older people. Is a person who has lived into their late 70s, 80s or 90s owed the same priority to preserve life as a person in their 20s or 30s who typically has more than 50 years still left to live? Many seniors have had time to enjoy careers, children, and grandchildren.

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not like 68 is just about to drop down. No, like, I think the thing that's astonishing with all of these takes is that the age ranges that they're that they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're th talking th talking th talking th talking th talking th talking th talking th talking th talking th talking th talking th talking tha tha tha tha tha that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that their their their their their their their their their their their their their that. that. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that that that that that that that that that that that. that. that. that. that. that. that. toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooe. that. that. the. think the thing that's astonishing with all of these takes is that the age ranges that they're talking about, when people like us see this, we're talking about the age ranges that our parents are in, and we're like, I don't know about you, I'm still like grappling with the fact that my, you know, parents are growing older and, you know, aren't as young thou. So I'm still kind like like like like like like like, like the the th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their th. th. th. their th. th. th. th. their their th. their, their, their, their, th. thi. th. their, th. th. thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, their. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. their. their. th as they used to be sort of thing. So I'm still kind of like... We've been over this, you are never going to be older than your father. No, that's... Try hard as you might. And I am trying. And like, so the concept that there's a breed of media dipshits out there that are all just like

teeing up for the possibility for like our parents to die so that economy number goes up is astonishing. I feel like I should direct this person. Anybody hear that fun angle grinding happening outside my window? Oh that's fun. Cool. I feel like I should direct this person to a little website called starts at 60.com. That is the news website for retirees. That's all about reinforcing how life really does start at 60. Hmm. So, you know, this guy's dad can't play tennis.

He can't play golf. It's starting to sound like they should do a suicide pact. He says, many seniors like him would not put their own life above the livelihoods of their children and grandchildren if the economic and social costs are too great. Very disputable. Imagine how many people out there are like, wait, you're telling me that my, um, that my dipsit, the 32-year-old son-in-law might have to go on the dole queue for 18 months? No, I will step up to be put into the Soilent Green grinder. And you absolutely saw people like just pushing their poor,

millennial grandchildren out of the way with the tax credit bullshit in the last election. Like, the concept that they would give up 5% of their dividend bond yield or whatever, let alone their life for younger people is ludicrous. But also, they shouldn't have to. Like this. No, I've changed my, I've changed my attack midstream. But, so yes, yet Morrison suggests people of all ages are equally worth saving. Strong implication that they are not. Yeah, and also strong implication that we're going to die if this doesn't lift.

Like, no, we're just not going to be able to go to trampoline world. Just ridiculous stuff, and I guess I wanted to note about this as well that I've seen this take now from a bunch of right-wing dipshits. I think Toby Young did the same thing in the UK of saying, hey, you know, what about our economy? Shouldn't we be deciding which people who've had a good run can probably just, you know, probably just cop it? If you're all at home, then who's inventing the iPhone two? And I guess like the first, the first one of these I saw, I was like, oh, gross. And then it became very quickly apparent that this is pretty much for like, for conservative psychos, this is now the one uniform,

contrarian take is like, yes, it's good that we've saved a bunch of lives by closing everything down. But if enough money gets shaved off the big money number of the economy, then that's bad, so maybe we should think about letting a lot of people die. but if enough money gets shaved off the big money number of the economy, then that's bad, so maybe we should think about letting a lot of people die. And I did see a clip of a press conference from a country, I want to say it was Greece, press conference, and they're like health minister got asked about this idea of like, oh you know, is it possible that we need to We need to think about like letting certain segments of the populace die off in order to preserve this stuff and

The guy responded to the question and and just like broke down and started crying while he was answering this person on the podium and saying like these people are our parents and our brothers and sisters and our grandparents and they're thin.. We, we we we we we we we we we. We to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the, we the, thi thi thin, thin, think. think. think. We need think. We need think. We need think. We need think think think. We need think think to think to to to to to to to to on the podium and saying like these people are our parents and our brothers and our sisters and our grandparents and they're part of our society and they are part of our history and they deserve you know respect and dignity and just fucking being treated as real people and I would rather be the sort of person who had that reaction than this one of like, yes, you love your grandmother, but the tennis club is closed. And how long can the tennis club stay closed for?

How long should I have to go without my six-figure salary in my golf in order to keep potentially thousands of people alive. He says lives are definitely worth saving, comma, but? But the public will demand politicians consider and disclose the full costs and benefits as the pain spreads. What he's asking for is the scene from the dark night where the guy gets up and says, I'll turn the key and blow up the other boat. And then he gets the key and he goes, oh fuck. I don't want to blow up the boat.

I thought I wanted to blow up the boat, but I couldn't. I'm a shuck so I'm going to sit down. Well do you think, like, yeah, in this case this case this case this guy really saying that he'd be the person who'd be happy to like, you know, sign the law that says we are actively consenting to the idea that like, that we're going to let the whole segment of our populist die, especially like the part of the populace that is supposed to be the sort of dedicated and loyal conservative voter as well?............. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, to. I, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th. th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to, thi. to, to, to, to to, to to, to, to, to, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th part of the populace that is supposed to be the sort of dedicated and loyal conservative voter as well. I have wondered, I have wondered about like whether or not there are a bunch of older people

who would normally vote conservative who are reading these kinds of takes and going, what the fuck? It turns out that we are also completely expendable to you if we're making trouble for the economy, you know? But yeah, I just, I don't even understand the point, the purpose of writing a thing like this, because number one, obviously, you know, this whole thing has been so, such a dramatic change to things as usual, that even hardline conservative governments are forced to avoid to a threaten to a eclauasuuxxxxxxxxxxx to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tos as usual that even hardline conservative governments are forced to acknowledge that hey maybe there is an actual purpose to a government. Maybe there's a reason that we don't have businesses run governments and shit like that. Maybe part of the purpose of

the government is things like a social safety net and to perform services that there isn't actually a profit incentive to do, you know, like keeping people alive. Yeah, I just don't know what the point of writing this is because we've clearly all decided that that is the way to go. We need to collectively act to save as many people as possible and then figure out how we're going to fix things afterwards. But yeah, also is he saying, hey, vote one me, the herd color. Herd Cullington, you know? I don't know, you tell me. Iggy Pop is 72. Just, you know, if we're talking about Iggy Pop die. We've got to let Iggy Pop die you know he's had a

good run he can no longer go to the wearing jeans but no shirt store so you know where's he gonna get his joy from it's time to let Iggy Pop get coronavirus I think we should give it to Keith Richards just to see if it does kill him. Well, I don't think anything can kill them at this point. That's true. Well, I feel like that's about all we have time for. Please do not kill all of your grandparents and stuff with coronavirus. Tell them that they can't just keep going around to people's houses to play Canasta. They've got to stay inside, stay safe. They've got to learn to play cyber canasta. E-canaster. It's the latest DigiTrend. Oh I love a Digi Trend.

A Digimon, you know. Yep. If you didn't really listen to any of this episode to summarize, get your grandparents to play Digimon. Yes. Ideally, yes. Well, that's it, fellas. Do you have anything else to say to the people? Oh, um... Go on, take your time. It's fine. This is... You know, it probably doesn't apply to anyone that's listening to this, but every now and then I've gone out for a walk to get some exercise, right? Get out of the house, feel a little bit healthy, and maybe because I've been, you know, anxious or depressed inside or whatever, and you're desperate for some sort of human contact if I've

seen someone who's also going for a walk you know I'll give them a little smile and a good day and I've had a couple of people mostly older people they're almost entirely exclusively people 60 and over maybe we should kill them who have just scowled at me for being out on the streets and it has made me feel like absolute dog shit so I think a nice a nice thing you can do on this time if you're walking around your neighborhood getting a little bit of exercise say fucking hello to people you don't have to get close to them you don't have to like exchange you know fluid particles with them or

whatever this a little no fluids being exchanged. Yeah, just a little, how you going? Maybe just a little good-day nod. Just some little bit of like human fucking connection at this point is quite nice. Don't, even if you have to give someone a wide birth because you're worried, you're going to have to fucking, you know, get the roney from them. Just say hello. Just say the the the th, just, just, just, just the the the thi, just, just, just the thi, just the th, you, you th, you th, just the th, you th, you the th, just the th thi, just a little thi, you're the thi, you're just a little the the thi, you're just a little, you're th, you th, you the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tho gododododay th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thin, just a little thin, just a little thin, just a little thin, thin, thin, thin, the the thi thi thi thi thee thee thee thi thi thi thi thi thi thi nice. Don't get the big sea. Give them the big H which is a hello. I don't think there's a new big sea. Yep, new one every minute. I would say don't actually go outside, stay inside and play half-life

remake Black Mesa. Who'd have thought? Half-life, still good. Huh. Did you play the new one? Yeah, no, I'm playing the 2020 version. And it's good. Wait, it's very good. Black Mace is the third party thing someone built where they rebuilt it in source, right? That's right. But, bloody... Alex's story or whatever is the new thing.. Who, who, who, who, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th is, th is, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, who, who, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th- is, th th th th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I would thi, I would thi, I would thi-a. I would thi-a. I would thi-a. I would thi-a. I would thi-a-a. thi-I tho-a, thi, I would thi- where they rebuilt it in source right like that's right but bloody Alex's story or whatever is the new thing yeah no I don't have I don't have all those gadgets and do hickeys I'm barely keeping up with e-canaster at this stage so sure well that's it everybody enjoy your games of

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