Boonta Vista - EPISODE 147: Hobby Grahms

Episode Date: May 6, 2020

Andrew, Theo, and Lucy talk grift, gripes, and Grahms as they cover the latest scams, Patreon narcissism, and rich people reinventing nature, as well as a trip down mailbag lane. *** Support our show and get exclusive bonus episodes by subscribing on Patreon: www.patreon.com/BoontaVista *** Email the show at [e-mail]! Call in and leave us a question or a message on 1800-317-515 to be answered on the show! *** Twitter: twitter.com/boontavista Website: boontavista.com Merchandise: boontavista.com/merchandise Twitch: twitch.tv/boontavista

Welcome to Bundndavista episode 147, I believe. We are here in a birthing suite, surrounded by friends, family, and for some reason, Elon Musk and his child pride grinds. All of the equipment for some reason Elon Musk has insisted on replacing it himself with stuff that works better. Parts are starting to fall off. Two nurses have been electrocuted. And he responded by calling one of them a pedophile.

Very concerning behavior. From the man of the hour, that's right everybody. Elon Musk and Grimes have finally popped out their thing. They're holding out and saying, here I made a thing. Oh, looking at the baby from a distance, her nose kind of wrinkled up. She's pretty grossed out by it. It's Lucy. Hey Lucy. Hi. Well, it's a baby and they are disgusting. They're fucked up when they come out, man. I'll tell you that. Hidious, hideous stuff. They're all scrunched up. They look like little old men. They all do look like old men. So you didn't have the effect where like

you're like, oh no, I know babies are stupid looking but not ours. Ours came out looking like a cinnamon roll. Yeah, no, they look, they look just like a cinnamon roll. You've crunched it down, and then baked it for too long. They look like that cinnabun that Pete Buddegge is eating in the picture where he's not eating chicken wings. He is eating a cinnabun. Niblin on it. Dirty Pete. And of course, standing between Grimes and Elon Musk holding the big snips to cut through

the umbilical cord is Theo. Oh god. Oh I'm so close to passing out. Just the question that like oh do you want to, would you like to cut the cord? Like fuck no. No, I don't want to see the cord. I don't want to know about the cord. I wanted to cut them. No, build a scaffold around the cord. I want to cut both them and I didn't get to. I was pissed. Leave it attached. Number one, I wanted to ask if they would let me try and bite through it. But then when you're there in the moment, when you're there in the moment,

there's only so many jokes you want to throw in there. And I did kind of want to do it. But like due to circumstances, birth type circumstances, one being that our first child, there was like something going on, the cord was doing weird stuff or like, you know, wrapped around her neck for a minute or something while she was coming out. And when she came out, they were like, this baby isn't breathing. And I went, oh, oh, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you know, you, you, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, isn't breathing. And I went, oh, so they immediately like snipped the cord themselves and ran over to a little table with her and started doing stuff. And I was like, oh, because they

weren't telling me anything that was going on. That sounds bad. It was pretty scary. It was, it was pretty bad. It was, it was pretty bad. It was pretty bad. It was, it was,that was going on. That sounds bad. It was pretty scary. It was pretty bad. And then they did some stuff and then they were like, oh, there we go. Just breathing and crying and stuff. Fixed your baby. And then, and they were also like, hey, wife of the show, your wife, they said, has lost tons of blood. We need to be over here now and

they just shoved the baby into my arms and then turned around and started doing stuff for my wife. And I was like, wow, this isn't just a whole thing, you know? You're like, damn, get this filthy baby away, this little old man away. So it's all very concerning, but most importantly, the thing that mattered the most is that I didn't get to cut the cord, but I did get to trim it, because they just kind of blasted it off in the middle and then they got like, so you can, we'll clip it and you can trim the end. Let me, that's so, let me tell you this folks. Let me tell you this. You ever like, you ever do that thing where you're like spatchcocking a bird or like cutting up a chicken into like eight pieces or whatever?

And you have to like cut through some joints. It's like that, it's so hard. It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, I. It's like, I. It's like, I's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. That's like, th. th. That's like, th. That's like, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, that's like, that's like, like, that's like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, that's like cut through some joints. It's like that. It's so hard. I mean it's flesh, it makes sense. It's just straight up nasty Andrew. It's really, it's really, it's not like, I don't know, because it's just this little sort of tube-looking thing, but it's like cutting through a rubber glove full of knuckles. It's... Like you've got to work workout it with these big scissors. It is crazy, these big tin snip motherfuckers.

All right, you got that out of your system? He's saluted on that? And then the second baby was born in a car. So a nurse just came over and cut that one off and it was much more chilled experience. It was actually a lot faster. A lot faster if you don't even make it out of the car. So that's what Theo is doing now. He's cutting through this thing. And Theo leans in and he says to for some reason his friend, Elon Musk, Elon, what are you naming the baby?

And now at this point, Theo can reveal to the world, and by the world I mean, me and Lucy, the name of the Musk Grimes baby, because we haven't heard it yet. All right, so think of, if you can, the most Musk Grimes baby name you can possibly think of. If you're thinking of a name, maybe... Techno. Techno. Techno. Techno. Tech no, the think of. If you're thinking of a name maybe... Techno. Techno. Techno. Techno Mosque. Yeah, because he would like it,

because it's kind of like he would think that it was sort of techie, but he's also a fucking nerd so he doesn't actually know what's cool. And Ryan would maybe name her. You ever see that clip of him dancing? No. All right, lay it on us. This is from Sky News, reputable news source, Sky News, Elon Musk and Grimes, welcome baby, X, A-E, A, dash, 12.

A, E, is that Caesar, Ae? I'm just gonna hit you with that one more time. So that's X, with a space, A, E, with a space, A, dash, 12. One to. You're lying. No. No. No. Telling the truth. This is extremely cursed knowledge for Lucy. You can't call the baby that.

How do you say this baby's name? You can't. Well, in some places, I remember a new story. It might have been from New Zealand about this couple that had named their baby like, just a- Adolf Hitler or something? No, there was, it was a different one where it was, it was just like a string of letters. It wasn't anything, it was like, you know, someone mashed a keyboard. And the local government went, all right, you're getting done for child abuse

because you can't name a baby. You can't do that, but I guess you can if you're Elon Musk and Grimes. You can't if you're in America. True. Where they have freedom. Freedom to call their baby. Tyler, McKayley, J-12. Remember when Azalea Banks said Grimes smells like a roll of nickels?

It's so descriptive because you know that she does. Like you know that she does. Oh. Um, I just want to point out here that this baby is the first baby for Grimes, whose real name is Claire Boucher, while Elon Musk 48 has five sons from a previous marriage. Oh my god. And they've got to be like half her age too, at this point. Yeah, she's 32. And he's 48. It's not at all.

It's not old at all. 32? Hmm. Basically, your life is just beginning at 32. Well, let's be honest, it's frankly distressing news about this absolute scam of a marriage. Thank you for that. Yes, thank you. Thank you, Theo for laying that rolled in like several minutes before we started recording.

My God, this is extremely upsetting to know. I can't wait to upset my friends. Now, seeing as it is, the scam marriage of the century, it seems only reasonable that we would use this chance, bless you, Theo. It seems only reasonable that we would use this chance, bless you, Theo. It seems only reasonable that we would use this chance to give an update in this segment. Scam Watch! Oh yeah, you know here on the show, we love a scam. Oh yeah, you know that here on the show, we love a scam. Love a scam. We love a scam. Oh.

And we did talk several weeks ago about Celebrity Chef and Sun Staring Dipshit, Pete Evans. Just a real, I don't know. Let's, could you describe Pete Evans for us, Lucy? He's just a professional scammer. Like, his life is the scam. He is the real, he's, the real, he's a, he's a, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the, the, uh, the, the, the, uh, uh, the, uh, uh, the, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the, the, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the real, he's the better call soul of the keto, keto, paleo, paleo, palio world. So we talked about, um, we talked about his book of baby recipes, which was which was officially declared as deadly to all babies. It's extremely deadly.

That's just the worst review you can get for your baby book, isn't it? I think also, he might have been the first scam that we ever covered on the show. Really? Possibly. He's been scamming a long time. This is like way back in Buntavista, year dot, I think. Gotta respect the grind. Oh, I can't remember. So, what we were talking about with him several weeks ago was of course his promotion

of the biocharger NG device. Now this I remember. Which you know you sit in a room and it flashes some lights and you get your molecules jacked up to the nines. You know? That's right. I love to have my molecules jujed. I like them jacked. I don't like a calm molecule.

Yeah, I love to turn on the machine and give all of my molecules a French tuck. I'd love to get a vibe check while also sterilizing myself. So the Australian Therapeutic Goods administration has issued two infringement notices to Peter Evans' chef PTYLTD, the company. This is from an official statement from the TGA, totaling $25,200 for alleged breaches of the Therapeutic Goods Act 1989. Which is, I should say, one and like a half the price of the device itself. So they have to sell like one and a half of these to pay the fine.

Just cover the fine. Mr. Evans is the sole director slash secretary of the company. The TGA received a number of complaints. I believe one was filed live while we were recording the episode. Now I followed to the A. Triple C who very kindly pointed, pointed They said they cover most of this stuff, but for this stuff You go straight to the TGA who have already fined them. Thank you to the lovely person from the A-triple C for that personalized email. There you go. TGA received a number of complaints about the promotion of a quote scare-quochart device that occurred during a Facebook live stream on 9th of April 20, Mr. Evans allegedly live streamed on his Facebook page which has more than 1.4 million

followers with claims that the device could be used in relation to Wuhan Corona virus, a claim which has no apparent foundation and which the TGA takes extremely seriously. Any claim that references COVID-19 is a restricted representation under therapeutic goods legislation and is of significant concern to the TGA given the heightened public health concern about the pandemic. The TGA recently published a warning to advertisers and consumers about illegal advertising relating to COVID-19. They have issued the company with an infringement notice in respect of the representation made in the live stream at slash video. A second infringement notice was issued for alleged advertising breaches on the

website, W.W.W.W.Pet.Evons.com which is maintained by the company. The page for the biocharger included claims such as, quote, proven to restore strength, st, coordination, and mental clarity. Sharpening your mental clarity, recovering from an injury, comma, stress, accelerating muscle recovery, and reducing stiffness in joints. As the biocharger device has been represented by the company as being for therapeutic uses, it is a therapeutic good within the meaning of the act, and is subject to the regulatory framework established under the biotrager device has been represented by the company as being for therapeutic uses, it is a therapeutic good within the meaning of the Act and is subject to the regulatory framework established under the Act and administered by the TGA.

Ladies and gentlemen, we got him. The only upsetting thing of course is that this will have absolutely no impact on Pete Evans in any material form. More money than we can even imagine having a brain that doesn't work. That's what's all about. That's called Hustlin. Big old dumb brain full of scams. And saving like 5% of his brain to call the coronavirus, the Wuhan coronavirus. And a little creative flare.

Now, I did also notice on news.com that are you a little follow-up to this. After being fined, $25,000 of spruking a light device, he claimed could fight coronavirus. Celebrity Chef Pete Evans has been copying it again. Now, the language in here, I love, like, I don't love news. News.com the language in here I love like I don't love news.com that I use it's a piece of shit and I love Australian tabloids but there is a certain charm to the very clearly Australian language used in news stories you know like when they say on the news that somebody got king hit to describe a terrible assault? Just really copped it.

Yeah. Yeah. We're hearing reports tonight that an innocent man in a nightclub has copped it sweet. So the 47 year old took to Facebook yesterday to host a Q&A with followers only to be faced with a fresh blow when he was told he'd, quote, lost the plot. In a live session that has since been deleted from his page Evans awkwardly reads out the comment from someone called Deb who had tuned in. You've lost the plot mate such a shame it reads. What is what was Deb?

what was Deb on board for him? What was the point the loo-weigh? Where did you loo? What point was Pete board for him? What was the point we lost to Deb? Where did you lose her? At what point was Pete just with it? At what point was Pete Evans just fucking all over it? No, no, I was, yeah, look, Pete, loved your work with that book that killed all the babies. Loved it. Loved it. My baby never looked whiter before leaving this mortal coil.

However, when you claimed to cure coronavirus, that was a bridge too far. Oh, that's okay, Deb, he laughs. Is it because I'm sharing recipes or because I've shaved my head and grown a beard? You got him. You got him, Pete. They describe that as clapping back at the follower. Destroyed another leftist. Thanks Pete. Oh, just, just another. And it's just a pro-scam artist and we kind of got to respect it. You know. Got to respect it. It's incredibly dangerous and many people will take what he says seriously, but you got to respect the grind.

I sincerely hope a squash ball goes extremely hard up his euthra. It's just lodged in the head of his beams. Oh my gosh. Wow. It's a dangerous sport. Sure is. Yeah, I just can't help but imagine the person who saw the biocharger thing and was like, I need to take out a small loan. I'm going to go down to the bank and take out a small loan for personal health reasons. Right, because no one just has this money on hand. You've got to really want that biocharger 15,000 US

It's a lot of money It's a lot of money do you reckon that includes shipping and handling Because that mother fuck is going on a truck Way man. I don't look that up you guys thing would be It would have to be so heavy from looking at it because looking at something that big if you picked it up and it just? It. It, I, I, I th, I th, I th, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just just, I just just just, I just just just just just just, I just just just, I just, I th, I just just, I just, I th, I th, I th, I th th th th th $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $15, I th $15, I th $15, $15, $15, $15, $15, $ $15, $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $, th, th, th, th, th, th,000, th.15,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, th.00, it would have to be so heavy from looking at it. Because looking at something that big, if you picked it up and it just felt empty, you'd be like, no way is this working. That's true, I feel like they've just packed some bricks in there to make it feel like

there's some real machinery inside of it. Yeah, there's just like a five kilo weight plate on there. Yeah. weight plate on there. Oh shit, I didn't, I didn't see this. They charge a thousand dollars per year for software updates. What? Oh. And $495 per year for personalized recipe consultation. There's more layers to this scam that I hadn't even seen yet.

And I was just looking for shipping. $1,000 I assume US a year. Yes, 1,195 American clams per year for your biocharger to continue to gain value and increase in capability. It's just incredible. You get one person to buy this and it was all worth it. God. Yeah, that's a lot of money to, Ithis and it was all worth it. God. Yeah, that's a lot of money to, I guess, pump out some more recipes that slightly change the light pattern that the thing was last at me.

Oh my God, oh my God, guess how much it costs to ship the boat? What? How much? $700? More? Oh my God! The cheapest. What? How much? $700 more! Oh my God! The cheapest! The cheapest shipping. The cheapest is $1,398.

What? How? $1,300 to ship my $15,000 light device. Oh my God. Wow. They are raking it in everywhere. Oh my god. Wow. It's just, they are raking it in everywhere. I'm impressed. They get you coming and going.

You think they'd only get you coming, but... They get you going. Wow, incredible. So we do love and respect to scam. And on that note, I kind of wanted to talk about a friend of the show who we have spoken about in the past a columnist for the Sydney Morning Herald and we have discussed some of her pieces on the show her name is Elizabeth Farrelly and we talked about an absolutely perplexing opinion

piece that she wrote called, What was when, when moving... Is this house is haunt, lady? This is, this is the house is always haunted as moving proofs. That's it. Sorry, sorry, let me give you the full. Please. The full headline. I have no experience of ghosts, but a house is always haunt as moving proves.

It's going to be my last dying brain, neuron, inspiring, repeating that sentence over and over again. House is always haunt. As moving proves. So, so basically we've read some of the bits on the show before. You can dig back into the bonus episode archives for the episode, Big Mouth Lizzy Ass. To listen to us.

God, they're so good at titling episodes. Trying to talk about this one. Because, you know, anything of hers that I read, all I can ever do is just like let it wash over me in waves as I try to comprehend anything that I'm reading. Absolutely mind-bending stuff. And one of those great things we like cool here's he's a he's like a rich Sydney arts scene lady who just gets to write stuff in a

paper for some reason so um so we we have a patron we're not trying to point any fingers you know we have a patron that's how people can support the show you know we do two episodes a week therethere's the bonus episodes, we do other stuff too. And for $5 a week you can go to Patreon.com slash Bontavista. Get yourself some extra episodes. Yes, we're putting them all out free at the moment, because we're good people. And everybody needs some content during the lockdown. Other people use Patreon for other things. In the case of Elizabeth Farrelly, she has used it to set up a patron called Broken Creek Farm, Diary of a Plague Year 2020.

And it says she's creating a citizens experiment in regenerative farming during pandemic. Now, you might be asking, what does this entail? So I'm going to hit you with the about section here. Brogan Creek, an experiment in regenerative farming during a year of pandemic lockdown. Our motto, the Industrial Revolution is over, the ecological revolution is well overdue. Bring it. Our mission. With over 7 billion people on the planet, many argue that industrialized and GM food production is essential. But highly processed food is linked to obesity, diabetes and cancer, while Argonomics destroys soil,

depletes water and drives climate change. Perhaps there's another way. Perhaps industrial, scarequotes, food science is not the answer. Perhaps we can reconceive food production as a collaboration with nature rather than an exercise in dominance. Planetcare is no longer some weird hippy thing. It's an exercise in bad-ass survival.

To survive as a species, we need to enlist nature's strength in increasing yield while also enhancing planetary and human health. Broken Creek is an adventure in intuition, a city girl's baseless hunch that the future lies in the hands of small people without money and the growing clean... Without money! Sorry. We'll get into that. Sorry. And that growing clean food in a soil replenishing way is an experiment worth trying. We'll be building stuff and growing stuff succeeding here, failing there. naturally fate takes hold. This experiment was just getting off the ground when pandemic hit, which is very as as moving proves.

House is always haunt when pandemic hit. When pandemic hit. So the first year of living dangerously on the land has become my diary of a play gear 2020. Now, the very first post that is available here, a publicly available post, is in which she describes that she had been considering doing this for some time, and has bought a hobby farm, basically. She also has a post in which she goes on about how it's unfair that the Australian tax office is classifying this as a hobby farm, despite her feeling quite serious about it. Oh, my God.

She's like, hey, we went out. Take me seriously. Take me seriously. Take me seriously. Now in order to take someone seriously, you have to know what they're offering. So there are membership levels available. As I said, our own podcast has basically one functional level of membership on Patreon, which is $5 a month. You can optionally pay more just for the fun of it. This gives because you like us. It's fun for you, it's fun for us. It's fun for everybody. And we do love our friends, lovers, and wives of the show. Not equally, but that said,

you don't have to do it, you know. However, there are very specific reasons that you might want to select different membership levels on Elizabeth's Patreon. Let me tell you about what they are. First cab off the rank we have an official patron for $3 a month, which includes her weekly Sydney Morning Herald column, which I believe she is already being paid to write. Patron only access to conversations and controversies arising. Um, sorry, what? She's just posting, like, group messages?

Access to conversations. That's not entirely clear to me. Um, it could just mean posts. It could mean I'm recording myself talking to a friend. It could mean the classic creative grifters patron thing of, I'm just going to say that there's some stuff you will get and then I will never post anything. I'll post something every three months about how I'm sorry I haven't been posting enough. And also early access to Broken Creek Farm weekly blog and project updates.

So that sounds pretty good for three bucks a month, right? One article from the paper? I mean, if she wasn't some rich asshole from the city and wasn't like couching this whole thing in it being some big experimental process where she's apparently just reinventing all of the known concepts of permaculture. That's what rules about it she's just like we're gonna see if it's possible to grow your own food. Never been tried before what happened was we all got machines that was the first thing to see if it's possible to grow your own food. Never been tried before. What happened was we all got machines.

That was the first thing to happen. And then we had Facebook. And now we're doing a little experiment to see if we can live off the land. I love rich people's brains. They're just operating on a whole other plane that I will never, ever reach. Never! They're just, they're firing on all cylinders. I wonder what nature does. Jesus Christ.

Pay me to find out. Like, fuck off. Like, if your whole thing was just like, hey, um, I'm going to pack up and move to the, move to a, uh, move to a, uh, move to a, uh, move to a, uh, to, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the their, their, to to to their, to they're they're they're their, they're they're they're they're they're they're they they they they're they they they they they're they they they they're they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're, they're, they're, they're, they're they're they're they're their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their like hey I'm gonna pack up and move to the move to a hobby farm And we're gonna see if we can grow some food to live off that and post some photos of our dog and you can get those photos of our dog for $3 a week That would be fine. It'd be great. Who cares? We know lots of people that are doing Permiculture all the way up to you know local farming and all that sort of stuff It's great. It's good stuff. You don't have to pretend like you're reinventing the wheel doing it. Especially if you're an extremely wealthy ex-archite now author for the Sydney Morning Herald probably earning more than $200,000 a year. You don't need it. This is one step down from Amanda Palmer. Go on, Andrew. Well, and it's also like all of the articles that she writes

are about like, you know, the inconveniences suffered by how development has happened in Sydney and like, and how it was sort of $200, and like, and, and how it was sort of $200-it-$1, and th, and, and, and, and, and, and, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the the the the the the th, the the th, th, thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, the thi, the th know, the inconveniences suffered by how development has happened in Sydney and like, and how it was sort of a pain to sell another house. Just that kind of stuff, you know? So that's three dollars a month and you're already thinking to yourself, bargain City. What more could I want? Maybe you could step it up to $11 per month to become an all-access patron. Now, the fact that the sixth tier, sorry, the second tier out of six is all access. It's a little something wrong there. It doesn't leave a lot of escalation points.

No, no. But $11 a month will get you. I've just seen a sentence that has made me angry. Exclusive Broken Creek videos. Patron only voting power and requests. Buy monthly Q&A with lively minds of intelligence and intrigue on cities, farming or other sexy stuff. There it is. Pass.

Pass. Oh, Elizabeth, could you take a break from the cool stuff you're doing with your farm to talks, to taxy stuff. Sexy stuff. Personal invitations to events, talks and book launches. And again just another thing that's... Just planning for a book launch about this, love it. Yeah, I love asking people to fund all of my pursuits as I say, oh yeah I could invite you to some of my events and book launches. There's nothing that says I really need

the money like that. And you get everything in the previous tier. Okay, you're thinking that's pretty good. But what if I went all the way up to $25 a month to become a super patron? That will get you occasional working weekends on the farm. Come and help plant trees, dig holes, build fences. Are you fucking kidding me? I'm just paying a fucking stranger

$25 US a month so that you may be at some point can travel to their property and fucking dig holes for them. I'll tell you, I'm in the middle of building a fence right now in my backyard and I fucking wish I had the money to pay someone else to build it for me. Yeah, it's straight up sucks to do things as I'm sure she's going to find out. This specific, no, well don't get me wrong. I like doing things. I would fucking love it if like I had nothing to do but those things. You know what I mean? Oh, I hate doing things.

No, if I had... Every time I think of doing things, it fills me with the anger. If I had nothing to do with my time, but like lads the landscape, like, like, like, like, like, like the landscape, like build fences and all that kind of shit It'd be nice and also if I had the fucking money to do it But as it is you know I gotta I gotta do this thing we have this fence collapsing on our property line Building a new one and like I've bought all the materials for it because I got some quotes done and I said hey for a single fence Going from this corner to this corner

How much money is that gonna be because everybody with that we spoke to about it was like? Oh, yeah, you get a whole you get that whole fence built for like 1500 bucks. Oh, no, no, there's that is a 15,000 dollar fence my friend? Yeah, and, and every quote that I got back from people was like, yeah, that'll be $5,000. And I was like, well, looks like I'm building a fence. So the only option available to us is borrow money in order to be able to buy the materials to then construct the fence ourselves over the course of however many weekends in between doing my full-time job. But see Andrew this is why we're not rich. We're not thinking like rich people.

I'm thinking rich. So look that's one option and I hear it. Right into mailbag at Buonto Vista.com if you would pay me significant sums of money to come to my house to build my fence for me. Because maybe I'm in the wrong gig. We're we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're th. We're th. We're th. We're just. We're just. We're just just just. We're just just just just just th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. this is this is this is this is this is this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. thi. th. thi. th. the. th. thi. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th money to come to my house and build my fence for me because maybe I'm in the wrong gig here. We're just suckers over here we're paying other people to do our shit. They should be paying us for the privilege. Once you're done working on Lizzie's farm for the weekend once you're done digging some holes and putting up fences and stuff like that, which is totally very fun and not fucking backbreaking labor. You gotta miss it, you know? Once you've gone home, you're gonna miss it and that's why you should step it up to

$35 a month, become an ultra patron. And then you get a six monthly Skype conversation with Elizabeth herself. Six monthly. oh thank you Queen. This is so unhinged. I, this one's really, it's really doing a number on me. It's probably one of the most narcissistic things we've done on the show so far. It's um, so just just for clarification there, that is paying 652 Australian dollars a year to be able to talk to Elizabeth Farrelly twice on Skype. But I assume go out to her place as often as you want to dig ditches. Well, it says occasional working weekend, sockon weekend. So I'm sure she doesn't want people bothering her all

the good information out of her brain, week in week out, you know. She's got to keep something for the intellectual and sexy conversations. I think like I'm going to keep referring to our own patron here, right? Because I think when we first put it up, we were like, wouldn't it be insane if somebody paid $5 to listen to a thing we'd done? And we were like, ridiculous. No, no one's going to care that much. No one's going.

No one will simply do this. And you know, we've kept the thing pretty much the same the whole time, which is for $5 a month. You get the thing pretty much the same the whole time, which is four, five dollars a month, you get all the new episodes, you get the entire back catalog, and you get the Discord and whatever else. And I think, you know, we all kind of feel however we feel about that, but at the very least we can say that if somebody is paying for that subscription, I think that they are trading a reasonable amount of money for the labor that we are like consistently doing in order to make the

shot. And for receiving a tangible benefit. It takes at the very least two hours a week to produce two hours of material. That's outside of the other stuff, the editing and all that sort of thing. And so to say, you know, will you give you give you give you give you give you give you give you give you give you give you give you give you give you give you give you give you give you give you give you give you give you give you give you give you give you give you give you give you give you give you give you give you give you give you give you give you give you give you give of the other stuff, the editing and all that sort of thing. And so to say, you know, will you give somebody five US dollars a month in exchange for four hours of content? That to me, that's fine. That's reasonable.

What's not as reasonable? Let's see, uh, VIP patron, $45 a month. Oh, it keeps going. Yeah. I thought we were done. We only just got into the second the $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5. that $5. that's $ $5. that's $5. that's $5. that's $5. that's $5. that's $5. that's $5. that's $ $ $ $ $ $5. that's $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that.00.00.00.5.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.00.00.00.00.00. keeps going. Yeah. I thought we were done. No we only we only just got into the second half of the tears. So then we have VIP patron 45 US dollars a month which includes everything from the previous tears so you can you can be her employee who pays her to work there. You can get to talk to her twice a year on Skype. $45 a month will get you a 300 word article twice yearly on a topic of

your choice. The phrase 300 word article is impressive. Impressive. 300 words is more like a couple of paragraphs. It sure is. It's three paragraphs essentially. What would you ask to write about for you? Mr. Bean slash Vic. Yes. Three hundred words is absolutely not enough, but yes. Imagine trying to call it in and being like, all right, I'm going to need 300 words

about Mr. Bean piloting a Gundam. And letting her try to deal with that. You know? I'll pay for that one. I'm going to start funneling all the money from our Patreon into this one. And hey, maybe you're thinking to yourself, 45 US dollars a month, month in month out, I feel like I could be doing more. I feel like I could step it up to the membership level of UberMench, $100 US dollars a month.

That's about $400 Australian dollars a month. All previous benefits from other tiers, but really, if you just like what I do and want to help, this tier helps to keep you informed and me fearlessly independent. Oh my god, I don't hate you so much. I kind of feel like being in a position where you can sell your shit and move out to a hobby farm. You might be fine without the money? You know, I've been on Twitter. Yeah, I mean, fearless kind of implies that there's an element of danger at any... Any point. Anywhere in the process, anywhere in your entire life,

that you would, you know, suffer some kind of hardship that would make you not be able to do the things that you want to do. But no. This does kind of make me think of, um, I'm not very across this, but the, what do you call Amanda Palmer, Neil Gaiman, divorce? We should have been across that. It's hilarious. It is the most Amanda Parma thing to happen, at least this week. So my, my very brief understanding of it is that Neil Gaiman realized. This, this, this this thi, what, um, what this does this this this, what, what this, what this, what this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, what, this, what, what, what this this, what this, what this, what this, what this, what this, what this, what thi, what, what this, what this, what this, what this, what this, what this, what th, what th, what th, what th, what th, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what thi, what thi, what thi, what thi, what thi, what thi, what thi, what thi, what thi, what thi, what thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, this this this this this this this this is, what this is, what this is, what this this is, what this this this is, what this thi, what thi it is that Neil Gaiman realized that he was stuck in quarantine with his own wife and he said, well, that's enough of that. He has said, we are getting divorced and left.

Amanda Palmer has then chosen to write a post and put it on her Patreon saying my husband has left me and a child I'm going to need everybody to like and subscribe. Like she legit put some shit in that post that was like I'm gonna need my online community to rally around me like never before. It's like, you need to log the fuck off. You just gotta log off. Get off the fucking internet. If you're getting a divorce, you have to log off under all circumstances.

Jesus Christ. And so Neil Gaiman has then posted something on Twitter where he's like, oh, so I gather that Amanda has informed people that we are separating. I would like my privacy to be respected at this time, that of me and my family. And Amanda Palmer has replied to him saying, well said Neil, here's the post I made about it on Patriot and linked to the post. Oh, she sucks so much. It's nothing like your fucking, your partner saying, we would like, we would like, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th like, th like, th like, th like, th like, th like, th like, that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th like, th like, th like, th like, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that, thi. thi. thi. thi. th on Patreon and link to the post. Oh, she sucks so much. It's nothing like your fucking, your partner saying we would like privacy in this time and then going, this is a perfect spot to link to my post about too much of this. So just, I want to just to kept this off because there's thematically linked to the rich vein of Patreon narcissism that we're experiencing at the moment......... th. th. th. th is th. th is th. th. thiiiii thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi' is thi thi thi thi' is saying thi' is saying thi' is saying thi'er's thi'er's thi'er's thi'er's thi'er's saying is saying is saying is saying is saying saying saying saying saying saying saying saying saying saying saying saying is saying is saying is saying is saying is saying is saying is thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the moment. It thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii' the the the the the thi' thi' thi' thi' thi thi thi thi thematically linked to the rich vein of Patreon narcissism that we're experiencing at the moment. A message that she posted several days ago, it goes a little something like this.

Every month, all Patreon creators lose a percentage of their patrons because credit cards decline for one reason or another. I usually lose a few hundred people. This month especially, please make sure your account is up to date. Fuck you. We need you. Let's just take a moment to think of how much mighty Amanda Palmer and Neil Gaiman would have together. Oh my goodness. Just someone who's had like a bunch of hit records who has toured for years and lots of stuff and also her partner who has sold millions and millions of copies of books and graphic novels

But she relies, she relies on the patron to continue doing whatever that is that is such an absolute grift or all of the shit like the the getting getting people to come out and like perform unpaid in her own concert you see those ones that shit sucks God damn she's like no I'm giving people the gift of getting to be part of the performance without getting paid for some reason. Oh. Just incredible. It's just a lot of narcissism out there, huh? She has, she has 15,000 patrons. Wow. The lowest tier she has is one1. So that means that she is earning at least at the minimum $15,000 per month. I feel like you should probably be able to live off that. That's an unimaginable amount of money. My goodness.

Still not as bad as this hobby farm scenario. No, the hobby farm is worse. As you get some music out of the Amanda Palmer Patreon. I guess so. So, I'm just going to, I'm going to quickly give us a pallet cleanser before we move on. Can I give a quick palette cleanser that is just me finding out how many patrons Elizabeth Farrell has? Yes, go for it.

It is 14. Well, that's nice. It's like a family. Hang in there, Elizabeth. At least 14 your friends. I may say, if you are kind of feeling some sort of mental imbalance and you're finding yourself wanting to sign up to that, instead the River Cottage Collection DVDs are available new and used for $101 online at the moment.

So just do that instead. Just hang out with your mate, Hugh Firmly Witting Stoll. Much nicer. He's got some cute little lambs going on smokes a salmon in his chimney it's a good time sounds pleasant so allow me to give us an update on the whereabouts of longtime friend of the show and international cricket legend Shane Warren It's my friend Shane Warren, there he is. There is Shane Warren. I feel like that might be the loudest it's ever been.

Oh. Real kind of sitting in the cinema, T.H.X. Making people's heads explode. Stuff there. But you can really hear the production value. Oh, beautiful stuff. Now, um, this is of course the one kind of Shane Warren's story that is still available, which is when a sports outlet publishes a story about a thing that Shane Warned ages ago,

back when he's playing cricket. So while this story says that it was published, on April 21st, 2020, they are actually talking about the thing that happened in 2006. So here's a story from Jacob Corriep, I'm going to say. No underwear and socks or no cigarettes for three days in the Australian wilderness. For most people, that would be an easy choice, and so it proved for Shane Warren in 2006. Where Warren and the general populace differ is that the king of spin elected to keep the easy choice, and so it proved for Shane Warren in 2006. Where Warren and the general populace differ is that the King of Spin elected to keep the

darts and leave the dacks, according to former teammate Michael Clark. Already unhappy at being called back from a country stint in August for a three-day training camp in the outback ahead of the ashes in November, Warren was not having a bar of it when Coach John Buchanan told himld him he would have to leave his cigarettes behind. Quote, it didn't start great when we were all in a room together and they said, drop down to your jocks and we'll tell you what you can take, Clark said on big sports breakfast. What they were allowed to take, Clark recalled was two t-shirts, a pair of joggers, a cap, three pairs of socks, and socks, and socks, and socks, and socks, and socks, and thahs, andthree pairs of socks, and three pairs of undies.

For someone like Warnie, who loved a smoke, he pretty much told him he's not coming unless he can bring his smokes. It was World War 5. Now, is this existing in some world war 4? World War 4? World War 3? Yeah. I almost forgot we hadn't had World War 3 yet. Michael Clark jumping way ahead here. I don't know what Michael Clark pictures

happening. Yeah. I'm not afraid. It was a stance that paint, well maybe he thinks of like the War on Terror as a World War, you know. But then where's four? Because that one's the first one's not even over, you know, war on terror. One of these sweet forever wars? I don't think we sorted that out. Okay. It was a stance that painted Buchanan into a corner. He was the coach, but Warren was the king. Quote, I would imagine John Buchanan would have been standing and thinking, oh my God, if we tell Warnie not to come to come to come to come to come to come the the the they to come they their their their. their. they. they. they. they. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. t. t. t. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. god, if we tell Warnie not to come, this is going to end in a disaster. No matter what happened, Warnie was going to play that test match. John Buchanan could not have dropped him, or the selectors wouldn't have not picked him. So he had a lot of power at the time Warren was told he could bring his cigarettes, but for each packet he took with him, he would

have to leave another item behind. Quote, Warnie flicked his three pairs of socks and put six packs of darts in and off we went. Oh, what a legend. Just love it. It was a different time before we worked out what athleticism was. Just 70s, 70s athlete style 2006 Shane Warren. Oh, I love any of those things like seeing a fucking baseball player or a football player like in the dugout, just hitting a dart.

It's so good. Whether or not Warren was happy with his choice became clear one night, well one night in as the Ozzy squad made camp in nothing but their sleeping bags. In the middle of the bush sleeping bag only no cover no shelter on the ground and it was pitch black Clark said all you could see was this orange light coming out of someone's sleeping bag and it was Warnie just sucking his dart back. Ha! What a beautiful image.

Oh, it's great. Just love the idea of, um, hey, uh, world-class athlete. who is going on a training retreat and everything, what would you rather bring clothes or your six packets of cigarettes? He's like, darts, darts, darts. He's right to do it. Absolutely. You gotta stand strong, you've got to have some conviction, you know. That's right. You got to have some beliefs. So now that we have gotten away from the grift and towards a feel-good story, like one family story, thank you. Means we can now dip into the old mail bag, finish out with some letters from my beautiful friends.

Brian sent us a message on the old mail bag, finish out with some letters from my beautiful friends. Brian sent us a message on the aforementioned Patreon. He says, Thank you so much for the unlocked bonus episodes and for shedding light on the Australian toilet room situation of which I was unaware. Now this of course refers to a recent episode in which we realize that in Australia for a lot of people you have a little room in your house, has the dinny in it, nothing else. That's where you go to shit room. Toilet room. That's where you go to quietly do your shitting in a very small room.

And that's what's what we're weird to these people. And then you leave that room and you go into the bathroom that has all of the things that you don't want shit particles all over. You sink, your shower, your bath, so on and so forth. But apparently this is different for Americans. Lucy has let us know that her husband, husband of the show Jesse was very perplexed by this idea of a separate room for the toilet. Just so taken aback, like just really confused that the entire concept of it. A toilet room, he said. Wait until he finds out that

when we flush toilets, our toilets are designed so that all of the turds go down in one go. And it uses about like a quarter of a liter. Yeah, my favorite thing about American toilets is sitting on them and my genitals immediately going into the toilet water. I was thinking that as a man. I mean, that water is just very high. I'm just confused about the whole toilet scenario here. I don't know if the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theaeaeaeaeaeaeaeaeauoes is toyaeau.oes is toyoyoyeysysysysyseysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysys. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. te. te. te confused about the whole toilet scenario here. I don't know if the theory is that like you take a shit and it just slides

calmly into the water and you don't get any splashback or something but number one I don't need it that close to me after it's been out of there. Imagine imagine having like awful diarrhea into a toilet that full. I don't have to imagine Andrew. I live here. It seems like a bad situation. It's a terrible situation and then... Toilets too full. It just sucks it all out. Oh, sucks it all down there. I hate this place. I've definitely had the situation with the American toilet of like you flush it.

And it very slowly Starts emptying out and you go oh, there's something wrong A bit of bang on that flush button again. Mm-hmm And it turns out that is not the thing to do with an American toilet. Certainly not Mm-hmm. I did that like a Thailand in like hotel rooms and stuff like that has has the American? the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, has, has, th, has, has, the the th, that, that, the that, the the the that, that, the the the the the the thi, the thi, the the thi, thi, thi, the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi the, the, th the, th th th th th th, has the th, has the, has the the, has the the, has the, has the, has that, has that, has the that, has that, has that, that, the that, the the that, the the that, the the that, the the that, the that, the not. I did that like Thailand in like hotel rooms and stuff like that has the American style way too full toilet and I did that in a in a hotel room in Bangkok. I pooped in the toilet and I flushed the toilet and it very very lazily was emptying itself down I was like let me just tap that bad boy again.

And then it started filling up, and it kept filling up. And then all the water started coming out of the toilet onto the bathroom floor along with my turds. And the person that I was traveling with just heard a lot of shrieking, and they came in to find me like standing on the edge of the bathtub braced against the ceiling as the turds were just making their way across this tiled floor. Oh what a what an image that is much I don't know I don't even own a plunger what's the system situation? I don't know. I really got to get this locked down.

I know they got a lot of problems, but I feel like you could... This is a big one. Yeah, but it's an easy wins for them. Right? Like if you're looking for some low-hanging fruit, you can just, we can license you, the designs, the water, it doesn't matter. It works, it does. It does. And you can just have a the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi that they thi thi thi they they they they they they they they they've they they they've they've they they've they've they they've they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're got thi, thi, thi, that that that that that that that that that that thooo. thoo. I thoo. I tho. I the. that that that that that that th works if the water rotates either way it's fine it works fine just have a door that just like like makes you not visible to the person outside the bathroom you guys they've got so many easy wins here I know they're feeling a bit a bit down in the dumps about you know not getting some some things right vis-a-vis perpetual wars and you know the whole coronavirus thing health care. If you don't love yourself guns and schools and so on. You can just get it it's just an easy win we can we'll send some people over your people

get in tou toub this toilet situation it's really not that hard. I was I was talking to my wife about this. I realized... Just go down to Bunnings. Sort it out. I realized that this is why there are so many jokes in like American things like stand-up and sitcoms and stuff about like, oh, have you ever like taken a shit in front of your partner? And like, when was the first time you took a shit in of your partner and like when was the first time you took a shit in the same room as another person.

Because that would be pretty fucking weird for us to do. Well yeah, like there's so many jokes about that. And it's like the only time that would normally happen is if like in Australia is if you were like in a hotel room where everything's just in the one room. There's still some places in Australia. I've the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi. That's thi. That's thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It th. It's th. It's th. It's th. ta ta taken taken taken taken taken taken taken taken taken taken taken taken taken taken taken taken ta ta thateeeeeeeeeeeee street. I've definitely lived in houses that have the one bathroom with the toilet in it. I don't care for it, but it exists. I believe you're describing Ben's house. I suppose I am. Oh yeah. Yeah. Now that I think about-

I've definitely lived in those places as well. As sharehouses, they're the worst. They're the worst the worst. the worst. the worst. the worst. the worst. the worst. the worst. the worst. the worst. the worst. the worst. the worst. the worst. the worst. the worst. the worst. the worst. the worst. the worst. the worst. They're the worst. Well because there's also the whole situation of like it's bad enough if you have taken a shit and the shit happens to smell very bad. It's bad enough like in a room that is dedicated to the toilet. But when it's like a shared space, that's no good. That's no good at all. Just quickly we have another letter here. friend of the show Claire writes, Hi everyone, I would like to say that toilet rooms do exist in the US just in different configurations. Usually what I've seen is the sink section being separated by a door from the toilet and bath. That seems even worse to me.

That's the only part you don't have to fence off. All the other parts you're describing are the bits where you get your bits out and people can see them. The sink is safe. It's a safe zone. You can put the sink in any room. If it's a larger bathroom, all right try and try and picture this in your, let's let's all go to my mind palaces here. If it's a larger bathroom, it will usually be the shower, sink, and bath, with a smaller room dedicated to the toilet. My old house had a sort of weird shower adjacent to to toilet room configuration, which involved three doors and intricate locking mechanisms.

What? That's just not right. It's not like jail. You don't have to put the toilet behind several sets of doors. It's like the, it's like the opening the opening the opening the opening the opening the opening the opening the opening the opening the opening the opening the the the the the to to to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to bea. to bea. to bea. to bea. to bea. to bea. to bea. to bea. to bea. to bea. to bea. to bea. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. I. I. I. to. I. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the to. the the the to. the th. to. the the to. the to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the the to put the toilet behind several sets of doors. It's like the, it's like the opening credits to get smart. He's just going to the toilet. Yeah, the very last one opens up and it's just a shitter. And then he turns around and it closes and slams on his dick. Claire says, this being said, given that these were college students,

the situation was likely some apartment where any toilet and rest of bathroom situation existed. Sorry if this doesn't make sense, I took Ambien but needed you to know that while rare of these dens of tranquility do exist. I'm enjoying the thought of like taking Ambien and just slowly sliding into worse and worse toilet situations. Yeah, we've got the room and then we've put another room inside of that room and the toilet's sort of doing its own thing in there. No, it sounds crazy but I've taken some drugs. Thank you for writing in. Thank you so much. Here's another one for you.

Hello, Buntavista, I listen to a lot of Australian podcasts and have only just learned that apparently your country has a historic issue of bigotry against Greeks. Having lived my whole life in communities like Chicago where there are a ton of Greek people, I find this unbelievable and hilarious. Is this real? If I visit Sydney, will I be mocked for my love of lamb in Oregano? Is that why George Miller doesn't have a Greek name? In the States, there is to my knowledge only one major event of racism against the Greeks when all the Greek people were driven out of Omaha in 1909, eventually they did let us back in. Any insight you can provide would be appreciated, as I would like to visit your wonderful country one day. Thanks, George, Greek last name withheld.

Now, we're gonna do a little, we're gonna do a little role play here, Theo. Theo, you're gonna be George, and you'reto ask me if Australia has a historic issue of bigotry against an immigrant population. Sure and I can kind of see where this is going but it's fun to play along anyway. Hey Andrew, hey so George here. Just wondering does Australia have a historic problem with bigotry against... Yes. Yes.

See ya. Well, see you later, George. Yeah, let me, let me explain George. If there is a populace, if there is a populace that has migrated here on mass at any point in Australia's history, then there has been an issue. They were the ones who got tard and feathered for the next 20 to 30 years. Yeah, we guarantee that for whatever community you're pointing at, there is a unique and

native slur for them. But don't worry, we're past that one now. We've moved on to whatever the most recent immigrant population is. Yeah. So, so like, and there is another very specific Australian aspect of this. I'm sure that people might write in and describe similar things to us, if you do want to do that, mail bag at bun tovista.com. But there is a very specific Australian thing, which is, which is, which is, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, to do that, mail bag at Buentevista.com. But there's a very specific Australian thing, which is for populations to have moved here at some previous point, Italians, Greeks, Vietnamese, Chinese,

all this kind of thing, where there has been a big issue when like large populations have moved in and people have gone, hey, you dirty, beep, beep, beep, slurs, slurs. For let's say a couple of decades until everybody just is kind of used to it now and we can get your food at the takeaway and we like it. As soon as as we can get your food from the takeaway restaurant and we like it, then you're in. Yeah, I mean it may seem like we're getting worked up. And I mean at the time we probably are. But it just takes us a couple of decades to get it all out of our system.

We kind of say all the slurs and then we kind of move on to Mostly move on. Well, there's a there is a third aspect of this which is Everybody has to act like they've all been cool with it the whole time and if there are the slurs that Theo was referring to ideally if you you as the migrant populace if you can refer to yourself to you to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the to the the the the to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theycoeauucoa-coeauucoa, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the slurs that Theo was referring to. Ideally, if you as the migrant populace, if you can refer to yourself as that slur and allow Australians to playfully refer to you as that slur as well.

Because we were just having a bit of fun. It was just a bit of fun. Just larygents. Just bans. You've never, you've never had a 25-year year long joke at someone else's expense. What are you a bit uptight? You know, so yeah, and then everybody can gather around and say hey The Greeks they're cool, you know, they came in here. They bought us their lamb their organo Their delicious meats and we all played soccer together and it's fine. They're model model members of our community. They assimilated. They assimilated. That's their their the their they're they're they're they're they're they're their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their tie, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. I, their. I, their their their their their their ti. Iuuiauiauiauiauiauiauia. Iu. Iasu. Isoa. Iasuucoa. Iasu. Iasu. Iasuiat. teauiat. their their their their. Iasu all played soccer together and it's fine they're model model members of our community. They assimilated, that's the word they love to use.

Some of my favorite troops are Greek. So yeah basically everybody everybody likes to just ignore the part where the very expansive period of racism happened and then say see we're a beautiful multicultural melting pot. What a real distillation of the Australian spirit that is. Yep, it's beautiful stuff. I would love a souvlaki though I tell you what. Oh fucking sootha. Imagine being out having a few too many beers and getting a suvlaki. What a dream. God, be beautiful. I need to make some Bugatza again. Mmm delicious. I know who's made you a Bugatza? Bugatza. It's fun to say it's great to eat. It's much more fun to eat. It's um yeah I I very

much encourage you out there folks. If you have never made or eaten Bugatza before, look up a recipe, get yourself some philo pastry, some eggs, some sugar. Make that bad boy because it's delicious. Hey, here's another one. Howdy and gooday. Audrey here, medium-time listener, long-time friend. As Ben and Andrew know, I am an essential worker here in the US and it sucks big ones.

So Audrey, beautiful friend of the show, Audrey, who we know from the online, has to work in a big store and is just compelled to be there and interact with people all day long. She is one of these poor souls who has to like get up at 3 a.m. to be at work, you know. But hey, the caller a hero on TV. It might be okay, like that lifestyle might be okay if you were like Kyle and Jackie O and you got paid a million dollars a year

to get up at like 3 a.m. and then call a child sexual abuse survivor a slur and make them do a lie detector test or whatever. Remember that? Sure do. Thanks for that reminder, feeling good. But yeah, my point is that they get paid a that that that that that that th a that that th a that th a that th a th a th a th a that th. that a they're they're that a thatheed that that thatheat, thatheat, that, that, that, they're they're that, thioliole thioliole thiole, and you thi, and you thi, and you thi, and you they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that for that reminder. Feeling good. But yeah, my point is though that they get paid a sheer load of money to do that. Or who doesn't?

So she says, something that would make me feel supported and encouraged is to hear all of y'all say methane gas closely into your mic, maybe even an oh nah Now yeah Lucy can we get a methane gas going as close to the mic as possible why would I say this for Audrey do it for the troops you go first okay here here we go methane gas Okay, here we go. Methane gas. That's beautiful. And that, Methane gas.

Methane gas. And I'm gonna switch it up and I'm gonna give you a, yeah, nah. No. Yeah, yeah. That's the double whammy. She says, thanks for making the bonus episode. It's been making, working at 4 a.m. more bearable. That's the double whammy. She says, thanks for making the bonus episode. It's free. It's been making working at 4 a.m. more bearable.

Good luck. That sounds like shit. I'm sorry, that sounds terrible. Semper fi or whatever, Audrey. P.S. Lucy, I also suffer from IBS. And if you haven't tried I be-Guarded, it's a life saver. Wow, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th that's that's thatried I be God, it's a life saver and an arse saver. Wow, thank you so much. Solidarity. Solidarity forever, folks. One last one here before we get out of here. Now, I seem to remember not too long ago, we covered a story that was, I'm trying to get it right in my memory here.

It was the story about the orgy parties being cancelled because of coronavirus. You guys remember that? Sure did. San Francisco orgy? Is that? The big San Francisco orgy. And I love, my favorite thing of that story is still the person who was like, I'm canceling the big orgy even though I think the coronavirus is bullshit.

So good. So good. So this friend of the show writes, Hi there, I binge to the podcast in the last couple of days, and you asked the question of how the swinging slash orgy community was handling COVID. The answer is, not well. Websites dedicated to setting up meets between people have become just desperate cesspools of people demanding pictures and detailed stories of people and couples

within the community. It's hilarious and kind of sad at the same time. At least the exhibitionists are having a good time as demand for their work is at an all-time high. If you are going to discuss this on the podcast or on Twitter, I would appreciate if you didn't name me. I wasn't going to, don't worry. Taboos are still taboos even in a health crisis. Absolutely love the podcast.

You are all keeping me at least sane during these times of ridiculous ridiculousness. Thank you for the laughs. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to the the the the the thiiiuiolioliol-ness. Thank you for the laughs, love from an at-risk West Australian with nothing better to do. Thank you for reminding us of how much worse it could be. Oh, thank goodness for my normal finishes. Just imagining a big old graph and on the y-axis.'s got fucking and sucking it's an all-time low. Oh no, but showing Dix to strangers opening trench coats that's on the way up. Way up. The number keeps going up. Well I think that's going to wrap it up for us right there. If you too would like to write in let us know something have your question answer or whatever You can send an email into mail back at Buentevista.com

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