Boonta Vista - EPISODE 151: Black Lives Matter

Episode Date: June 2, 2020

Andrew and Lucy take a look at the unfolding protests in America, Australia's own problems with police brutality and deaths in custody, Riot Control Bees and Coronavirus Monkey Squads. We usually ask listeners to support our Patreon, but this week we're asking you to support a more worthy cause, like any of the following. For Australian listeners - Justice for David Dungay Junior: https://www.gofundme.com/f/d9qkb6-justice-for-david - Sisters Inside (https://sistersinside.com.au/about/support-us/) - ANTaR (https://antar.org.au/donate-antar) - Practical ways you can support Aboriginal Lives Matter (https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/practical-ways-you-can-support-aboriginal-lives-matter/12308386) For American listeners - Support orgs fighting against racism and police brutality (https://secure.actblue.com/donate/ab_mn)

Yeah, hi, I'm from Chicago here, and uh, I have been to Vista. It's Mason from Chicago here, and, uh, I have no idea how to describe what has happened here. And, uh, I have no idea how to describe what has happened here, but just some bits and pieces and snap, well, just little snapshots of today I did jail support going first to one spot and then to another spot. For folks who don't know jail support is meeting people who are being released from jail after inaction, making sure that they have food and water and in COVID situations, masks and hand sanitizer, and making sure that they have rides to get back to their families.

And as this was going on, our mayor, like the mayors of most major cities, because this is all happening in concert, like there's some giant, fucking Zoom call where these people are discussing how to escalate and ratchet up the tension. But yeah, so as I was going up, they closed off pretty much the entire sort of central the loop part of the sort of central city core of Chicago. They announced curfews with roughly between 15 and negative five minutes notice for our residents here. And the police are holding back in terms of the the use of batons and bicycles and in just beating the shit out of people.

So yeah, we've got a lot of cats that love beating the shit out of people. And it sucks. We've got a lot of angry people who are desperate and a lot of cops that love beating the shit out of people and it sucks. Please please please don't import this from America. Bye. Hey, welcome to Buntavista. Eppes. Hey, welcome to Buntavista. Uh, episode 151. Civil War 2. Mmm. Uh, Civil War, the 2020 reboot.

America is at war, but it's in America for once. Whoa, what a week. What a week? What a week indeed. How's the vibe in America, Lucy? I'll tell you it's not great. Um, doesn't feel good. I feel like I've seen things online in the past week that I, just like nothing I've ever seen before in my life. Yeah, it's wild. We're talking mass protests, uh, police brutality and

riots in over 140 cities. Just a lot of police brutality out there. I don't know if you've seen all the videos circulating but fuck cops. I've seen all kinds of videos. So of course as I'm sure everybody is well aware the death during an arrest of George Floyd by a cop kneeling on his neck for nine minutes or so as he begged to be allowed to breathe until he was dead, while a bunch of other cops stood around him and made sure that he was able to do it, has finally been the, I don't know, the match to the powder keg.

And God knows we've seen thing after thing after thing. You know, it was only like, God, it was only a couple of weeks ago, wasn't it, that Amaud Arboree was just chased down by some guys and just gunned down in the street for going for a run. It was. I don't even know when that was. I have no concept of time anymore. No, it's every... well, 2020 is certainly a time where everything is happening all the time and at once and constantly and too much. Sure is. And it could certainly be said that a lot of what is happening is like very cumulative. Yeah it's the inevitable conclusion from everything that's happened for God knows how long. Yeah yeah I mean definitely from the police

prutality perspective and the everybody having smart cameras like smartphones with video cameras and stuff meaning that everybody can be seeing this stuff and filming it and showing it to everybody else at all times and that just being an overwhelming wave but I think that's compounded by the coronavirus pandemic, which has in turn, you know, put millions of people out of work around the world, which means that now that people have finally got to this point of just not being willing to take it anymore. It's like, you know, looking at these protests that have now gone on for five or six

nights straight. And as things get more and more escalated it's like there's a lot of these people who like like I think for a lot of a lot of very middle-class people who go to protests and that sort of stuff it's like you you go to your protest and then you go home and then you go to work like yeah and they count on this kind of you know the to their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. I I th. th. th. th. th. I th. th. to th. th. th. th. thi. thi. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. I. I. I. I th. I the. I the. I'm the. the. theee. teate. te. the. the. the. thee. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. this day. And they count on this kind of you know culture of you know not having people able to just protest all the time but we all have nothing else. Yeah, that we're suddenly in this position where there are just tens of thousands of people in each of these cities who don't have somewhere else they're supposed to be right now. They don't have someone who can say, I'm going to take away right now. They don't have someone who can say, I'm gonna take away your livelihood

if you don't show up and clock in in the morning. Mm-hmm, and not a lot to lose. Yeah. So you know, very much looks like the purge is happening in real life from here. We can hope so, and go out and loot that target. Unequivically, go on. Good for you. I'm one of the white people who is going to be out there defending the local target.

I'm going to be cleaning the graffiti outside of the target. Those people. And it's just been, there's... Even all the horrible shit aside, I feel like I've seen things on the internet that I will never recover from. I don't know if you've seen all the influencers. You know, there's like a picture of a woman in yoga pants taking a picture in front of a looted T-mobile store.

There's a bit of footage I saw today that absolutely killed me was this woman who went over to a guy who was like boarding up the front of a store and got him to give her the power drill that he was holding to like screw on the big plywood panes over the glass and then she stood there and held it as though she was screwing on the big pains of plywood and posed for a photo and then as soon as though she was screwing on the big panes of plywood and posed for a photo and then as soon as the photo was taken, she said, thank you so much and gave him back the drill and turned around and got back into her like Mercedes SUV that was parked on the curb. So Black Lives Matter and drove away.

It's just so many levels of disgusting shit happening. I don't even know where to start. There's, it's so, it's so confusing and confused. Like, I mean, I don't, I just don't understand who these people are, who like, get mad about looting. Yeah, I can't fathom, like, caring about this shit. I get maybe that you're upset about local business or something, but literally caring that a tartartartar tar tar tar tar tar tar tar tar tar tar tar tar tar tar tar tar tar tar tar tar ta ta ta ta ta the ta the ta tha the the thea the the the the. the. th. th. th. th. th. It's th. It's their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. It th. It th. It th. It's, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. toda. toda. today, today, today, today, the the. the. thi. thi. thi. th. th. this shit. I get maybe that you're upset about local business or something but literally caring that a target or a Nordstrom rack is destroyed is just a baffling state of mind. But it's also like, I mean I think a lot of it is

that people immediately want to attribute that to oh this is just people taking advantage of the situation and doing bad behavior or whatever as as though it isn't also tied up in a lot of other things like like. like. like like like like like like th th th th th th. like like like like like like like th th th th th thi thi. thi. thi. Like thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the like the the the like a thir that is like a that a that a that a that is like a that is like a their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the thr-like like like like like thi. thi. tha tha tha tha thaee. thae. thae. te. te. te. te. thae. thae. thae. thae. thae. thae people taking advantage of the situation and doing bad behavior or whatever as though it isn't also tied up in a lot of other things like if you are in a socioeconomic bracket that is held down by you know the richest people in the country who in turn are completely supported in doing whatever the fuck they want to do by the police force yeah and suddenly you're in this do by the police force. Yeah. You know, and suddenly you're in this position where maybe you can go and grab a bunch of that shit that you can't afford because you work somewhere for, you know, minimum wage and

tips or less than minimum wage if you can get enough tips to take you up to minimum wage. Exactly. And, and like no holidays and no health insurance and no nothing. And you never get anything from the government. You never get anything from these job creators, you know, from philanthropists. From the Elon Musk's of the world. Oh, they're creating jobs and innovating by becoming trillionaires as millions upon millions of people are put out of work. Yeah, I think for the most part these people just cannot fathom being as angry as these people are because these things will never happen to them.

The idea that someone in their community is murdered by a police officer for no reason. It's not something they can ever face and will never face. So this this I think is the thing where like obviously obviously right now we are talking about a situation from the perspective of two of the widest people you've ever seen. We are... You and me we're just very white, very white. And so, so... thus, thi, and so, thi, this thi, thi, this is this is this is thi, this is thi, thi, this is thi, and thi, and thi, and this is thi, and thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi is thi, thi is thi, thi is thi., thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thii thi thiiiiiiiiiiiii. thiii. thiiii. thi. thi You and me, we're just very white, very white. And so obviously we cannot speak to any of the perspective of police harassment or anything like that. Like, obviously you can listen to people and that's very important. But I, the thing that I was just marveling at all day is how you can see to people and that's very important. But I, the thing that I was just marvelling out all day is how you can see this footage.

Video after video after video with these protests and rides. It's all there to just look at. You can just see it. You can just see it happening. You can just see. Like the footage today of a news crew standing there, filming while the cops pull up because these store owners have said,

hey, we need help protecting our store from looters. And the cops roll up and immediately run over and throw the handcuffs on the black store owners that called them. Yeah. Or the video of the guy who'd been handcuffed and stitched up by cops until he had finally managed to explain to them I am an FBI agent and you need to let me go now. Like just thing after thing after thing of the police being the ones to escalate and instigate violence and like the cops driving SUVs into crowds of protesters.

Yeah, and they are overwhelmingly committing all the violence that's happening right now. It's like starting it. And you know, looking at this, you just see over and over and over again in all of the replies to these posts from journalists and news organizations on Twitter, all these people saying, oh well they should have done what they were told by the police and then that wouldn't have happened. You can see that that's not the truth. Well it's just, it's just this like, it's just such a mind-bogglingly like like, protected mindset of this whole thing of,

oh, well, if you simply did what you were told, then they wouldn't have done something bad for it. And like, I just, I was marveling at like, essentially, like, I was marveling at like, essentially how brainwashed a massive portion of the American populace is. Oh definitely with like police and military worship. Yeah just this fealty to the police and the military, this idea that if an order is given to you by a member of the military or the police force that that it has to be correct, whatever they are

saying has to be correct and they have to be within their rights to do it. And the extension to that of if if if if if if if if you, if you, if you, if you you the the the the the the the th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the the. the. the. the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi thi thi thi thi the. the. the. the. to toe. toeat. to toe. toe. toea. toe. toe. to toe. thea. the. the. the. the. the. to be correct, whatever they are saying has to be correct and they have to be within their rights to do it. And the extension to that of, if you don't immediately comply with whatever somebody has told you, that person can then wreak horrible violence upon you. That is completely inconsistent with like all guidance around how arrests and stuff are actually supposed to go, but it's your fault because you didn't cooperate. Also just the idea that police are easily startled and things like this is though it's just at some job like... He was in fear! A regular job that you can just be like that? Like yeah just just I cannot grapple with how... Like the number of people who can look at videos like the

video of the the video shot by the the women who were like standing outside their own front door on their own porch as the National Guard was moving through and the National Guard saw them and just turned around and started fire in those paint cans at them on their own porch and so many people are injured people have lost their eyes journalists they're just shooting people they're their they they they they they they they they they they they they they they just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th just just just just just just the thu thu the thu tho just just their their the their the the their their their their their their them on their own porch. And so many people are injured. People have lost their eyes, journalists, they're just shooting people. I did note when I was pondering about this today that I think in a like I don't think it's a good thing that any of this is happening to anybody but I think that in a way that it is a net positive that the police have been indiscriminately attacking reporters in the same way that they have been attacking everybody else.

Because I think for a long time, reporters, you know, particularly in Western democracies, a lot of the time have had this bystander status. Yeah, they think of themselves as a protected class, essentially. Yeah, I mean, like, even think of, think of like people who get embedded in units in like Iraq and Afghanistan and stuff, you know, it's like, oh, we'll ride along with you and be protected. But there's also the idea that like, you know, they're like, they're like medics, that you're not supposed to fire on them. But they're being, they're having this violence visited on them so indiscriminately that it's taken out this part of the process that used to happen, which was someone would have something fucked up done to them by a cop.

A cop would just haul off and punch somebody in the face or shoot an unarmed person or you know whatever it might be and the journalist would have to say it appears as if this thing happened or this person said the police did this and the police did an investigation and said actually we thought there was a concealed weapon or this person was presenting a threat and a reasonable suspicion reasonable force was employed you know and it's completely taken that out of the equation because you can also see video after video after video of reporters like on the street somewhere by themselves nowhere near any protesters no one near any cops and they're standing there with a camera in the street somewhere, by themselves, nowhere near any protesters,

no where near any cops. And they're standing there with a camera in the microphone, holding up their press badges saying, we're press, and the police who are standing 20 meters away, just open fire on them. And it's taken out this part, where the press would normally say, we either have to hear both sides, or we have to, you know, work with the assumption the assumption the assumption the assumption the assumption with the assumption with the assumption with the assumption with the assumption with the assumption with the assumption with the assumption the assumption the assumption the assumption the assumption the assumption the assumption the assumption the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the where the press would normally say we either have to hear both sides or we have to you know work with the assumption that something happened before that point that we weren't privy to it's like no no nothing happened nothing happened you're just there and they want you off the streets I just I can't imagine after seeing all this that anyone could still see the police

and think that they're there to protect you at this point. Well if you think that the only thing they're there to protect is property, someone else's property. I mean... Yeah, they're visibly just protecting property in so many of these videos. They're not there to help anyone. The very, you know, the more unfortunate things thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing know, the even more unfortunate thing of course is seeing any kind of post where somebody, where, pardon me, seeing any kind of post like, for example, I was looking at the Polk County Sheriff from Florida saying, hey, a lot of people around here like guns.

So if you're thinking of protesting and damaging people's properties, I'm going to be encouraging them to fucking kill you. Normal stuff. And then you can just look down at all of the replies on this thing with people saying, awesome. Awesome, this is my local sheriff, and he a bad-ass. Just a massively cucked population. Somebody well somebody in the replies was like what if I'm in my house and there's somebody like out the front and I'm worried that they're going to do something and so many

replies with the explanation of the stand your ground law which as we we know is an extension of the you know the stand-your-ground law, which as we know is an extension of the, you know, the castle doctrine. So the castle doctrine being if somebody breaks into your house, you are able to murder them basically. It doesn't matter if they're running away from you or it doesn't matter if they're unarmed or anything like that, you can immediately just dome somebody and there will be no questions from the police at all because that person was in your house. Florida is one of the places that extended that to include the stand your ground law, which

is if you are just out in public somewhere and you feel that someone is an imminent threat to your life, you can take out your gun and kill them. And so this person was explaining the stand your ground law and saying, well if someone that that someone that someone that someone that that someone that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that person's that person... that person's that person's that person's that person's that person that person is that person is that person is that person is that person is that person is that person is that person is that person is that person is that person is that person is that person is that person is that person is that person is that person is that person...................................... that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th.......................................... that, that, that, that, that your gun and kill them. And so this person was explaining the stand your grand law and saying well if someone's out the front and you think that they're gonna like throw a Molotov cocktail at your house you can shoot them and it's still legal. This person was like, great, thank you. And so you have like one chunk of the populace that is just Like this pathetic slavery and fealty to the police please protect me from these people who are asking to not be murdered so much anymore Yeah, and then you get the whole other chunk that is just living in this like

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But, um, I guess one question to try and grapple with, and it's just going to be grappling from us. Yeah. There's, there's nothing, nothing smart's going to happen. Is, where does this go? I don't think it's going to get better before it gets worse. Yeah, yep. We now have Trump saying that he's going to basically call in like the full might of the American military to crush dissenters.

Calling Antifa a terrorist organization. Yep, he's demanding mass arrests. He's basically saying that you know everybody that has anything to do with this deserves to be put in jail for five to ten years or shot if they won't get off the street. And it's super cool that the Democrats wasted time trying to impeach him over some bullshit instead of stuff like this. Just... We also got Joe Biden saying that police should shoot them in the leg instead like this. Just... We've also got Joe Biden saying that police should shoot them in the leg instead of the heart.

That's so nice, Joe. Yeah, that's the opposition over here. Uncle Joe would love for you to just be shot in your femoral artery. Exactly. I don't know, it just feels like things are really at a huge breaking point over here. Well, that's the thing. It does, it does feel different. I mean, like, you know, obviously we, like I said, we don't know what's going to happen, but something about this, like, and it might be a huge combination of the fact that the government did nothing but give

everyone a $1,200 check and nothing else. People are still dying at huge rates. And I guess we just have to put all that behind us and see the very well-equipped police while, you know, doctors and nurses don't have enough protective gear. Sure enough, put all the resources into sending out the riot squads to protest pretty quickly. Yeah, um, yeah, it's just like, you know, you've got true, I don't know if you listen to the audio from, uh, Trump on a conference call to all of the governors from all the different states? No but it sounds bad. It's very bad it's him basically saying you know hey we've got a you've got to get out there and you have to

dominate them on the battlefield you have to crush them like we need to we need to bring like the full might of the National Guard and military out there and crush these people. And... A government with just absolute contempt for its own citizens. Well, I mean like, I, you know, I'm not one of those people who is like, ah, see, you voted for Donald Trump, and that is the one thing that caused this, because that shit is ridiculous. Like, to look at what is currently happening

and think that this is a situation that has been created solely through the election of Donald Trump is like, the most... That's liberal brain. Ridiculous ignorance of, like, even the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, th, the most, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thu thu thu thu thu thu th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and thi, and thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi., thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi., thi. thi. Donald Trump is like the most liberal brain ridiculous ridiculous ignorance of like even the most remote understanding of the history of of America. Yeah. But like obviously it also seems like you know the the most it seems like the most obvious end point of of like elections, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the most, the most, the most, the the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the the the the most, it seems like the most obvious end point of like elections and government policy and political ideology that is based on nothing other than just spite and hate for people who aren't like you. And just protection of the rich and corporations.

it's such a disgusting, visible level. Making America great again. Make it like it used to be. Yeah. The good old days, you know? We should certainly get in there. But yeah, just as far as like, where does it go? It's, you know, it doesn't, like, where does it go? It's, you know, it doesn't, like people don't seem to show any signs of letting up with the whole thing. Which is amazing because the cops are getting more and more heavy handed with it. And as we all know, protests against police brutality are usually quelled by applying a bunch of police brutality. The crowds love it when you do that. Oh we love it. You're listening,

you're finally listening. So yeah, it's like you kind of get the vibe from this whole thing that people really aren't going to let up until something significant happens like until there is some kind of commitment to a massive... Something has to but I don't know what that can even be at this point you know? Well it also feels like Trump being there is going to guarantee that that doesn't happen. Yeah absolutely. What would happen if a whole bunch of like, you know, governors of states said, we are announcing a massive overhaul of like policing standards, you know, we're throwing out

everybody with a domestic violence conviction, we're throwing out everybody who's had like multiple complaints of racial profiling against them, you know, we're like introducing a whole bunch of really strict standards and I know that there are a lot of people out there who are like police abolitionists. I know that a lot of people want a world with no cops. I don't think we're getting there immediately. Certainly not any time soon. Yeah so I guess the question is what are the steps that are going to make people believe that something is genuinely happening and I don't know. That's pretty scary it's

definitely like any other country with this level of like it is fascism a bunch of the stuff that's I know we've loved to throw that word around since Trump got elected but these are overtly fascist things that are happening. like. like like like the the th. like the the the th. the the th. the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their st. the st. their th. their the steps. the steps. the steps. the steps. the steps. the steps. the steps. the steps. the steps. the steps. the the the steps. the the the the steps. the the steps. the the st. the the st. the st. the the the st. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. I's the. I's the. So. So. So. So. So. So, the. So, the. thee. thee. theee. thee. the. the. they. they. they. the stuff that's how I know we've loved to throw that word around since Trump got elected but these are overtly fascist things that are happening just declaring anti-fascism to be a terrorist act as you call the military in to quell your own citizens yeah to literally just shoot your own citizens with rubber bullets for peacefully protesting and then you and then you gas a whole bunch of your own citizens so you can walk down the block and hold a Bible in front of a church. Yeah, it's pretty scary. Yeah and and much respect to anyone that's out there right now

protesting. Absolutely. And pretty scary place to be. Absolutely I hope that all of our friends are there stay safe because you know I know that we've all got a lot of a lot of online friends and we can all see them out there you know getting a monster and try to keep each other safe and you know our thoughts with all them it's just really hard to look at it and know where it goes from here, but it's also very hard to look at it without being, frankly, very scared for the people who are out there in the streets because it just really seems like it is, it just seems like it's on the verge of like a unit of cops somewhere just massacring a crowd of people. It seems

like they're just like right teetering on the edge of having their own Tiananmen Square. Pretty much. The US is bombed countries for less than this. Yeah But that's different that's other countries. That's other countries. Well luckily I mean Australia of, doesn't have similar problems. No racism here. No problems with the police targeting minorities, killing them in custody. Just kidding. There's a lot of that here. Sure is. Almost all of it, completely unpunished.

Yeah. Yeah. Like, I think that that has been a frustrating thing from the Australian perspective. It's very frustrating to see Australians posting stuff on social media and in the comments website saying, wow, America's so fucked up. Yeah, I've definitely seen a lot of comments like that, which are just... Yeah, and it's like, obviously, you know, Australia doesn't have... I think that there are elements that are very unique to America. There is the saturation of gun ownership.

There is, as we discussed, the overwhelming fealty to the police and the military among like like, like, like, large sections of the the fucke to the, like, like, like thi thi thi, you thi, you thi, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, like, like, you, you, like, you, you, like, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you're like, you know, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you, you, you, you know, you're like, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the like, the like, like, the like, the like, the like, the like, the like, the, the, the, the, like, like, the, there is, as we discussed, the overwhelming fealty to the police and the military among like large sections of the populace. And just a huge population as well. Yeah, yeah, hundreds of millions of people. And then there's like, you know, the history of slavery within that country and the fact that like, there's obviously such huge, the huge, the military, their own, their, their ownership, their, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, you know, the history of slavery within that country and the fact that like there's obviously such huge parts of the country, huge swathes of the country that cannot even begin to contend with the fact that the entire country's like infrastructure, let alone its wealth and its, you know, all of its things are all just built

on slavery and slave labor and stolen people. Now obviously Australia did steal a whole country from its indigenous people. Sure did. Hey, that also happened in America too. There was slavery, you know, there was slavery of an indigenous people, there were Pacific Islanders that were bought here to work in the sugarcane fields, but I think it just kind of can't compare to the industrial scale that America was built on in that way. And it's purely a scale thing. We have the exact same problems with racism and with police brutality. Yep, yep. And yeah, the deaths of indigenous people in custody.

And there are truly so many, if you haven't researched any of this, there's, it's a lot. So many. Um, yeah, like for example, a thing that's coming up a lot of the moment is the case of David Dungay Jr. And he was a man who was in jail. This was on video. He was in Long Bay Jail in Sydney. He had six guards holding him down while he gasped for air and screamed for help and he shouted, I can't breathe 12 times as they pressed down on his neck until he was dead. And guess who got charged with

a crime out of that? Would it be no one? It'd be fucking nobody. Because cops are just state-sanctioned murderers. Yep. So you know if you are Australian and you are willing to and are looking for you know anything within Australia that you can kind of look a bit more inward and try and help because it's completely, obviously it is completely reasonable to give money to bail funds in the states. It's true, but also our dollar is terrible and I would recommend using that dollar in Australia. Yeah, thrown our pathetic pennies over there. There are causes here where we can, we can look at our own situation and rather than being one of th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th those th those th those th those th those th those th those th those tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thate thateate thateateateate to toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. the the. theing our pathetic pennies over there. There are causes here where we can look at our own situation

and rather than being one of those people who looks at it as it is there and says, boy, I'm glad we don't have any of that. You can acknowledge what we do have and try and help in some way. So David Dungay's mother, LeTona Dungay, is trying to have the, let me just, let me just read here from her, Go Fund Me. She says, over the last three years, we have been to two sessions of the coronial inquest, dozens of marches and countless legal consultations.

Since David's died in Sydney, a long way from his home in Kempsey, most of these events have been in Sydney. Constantly traveling has made finding work difficult, and the legal and travel costs have been piling up. In September 2019, the New South Wells Coroner presented his findings on the inquest. He decided that the corrective services officers were not responsible for my son's death, despite the video evidence. I cannot accept this ruling and I have the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the toeeckeckeckiediediediediediediediedied. I, toeckied. I, toeckied, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, te, toe, toe, toe, thae, thae, t. I, t. I, t. I, t. I, t. I, t. I, t. I, t. I, t. I, t. I, t. I, t. I, t. I, t. I, t. I, t. I, t. I, t. I, te, te, te, te, te, te, te. te. te. te. te.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e. te. the video evidence. I cannot accept this ruling and I have made an appeal to the director of public prosecutions and will not stop until the New South Wales government accepts responsibility for the murder of my son. So she is raising money to continue that legal fight. We will put the links to that in the description for this episode.

So if you are Australian and you would like to, you know, make your dollar go as far as possible towards a really good cause, please send it there. If you're in America. There's lots of bail funds you can donate to. I did read that the Minnesota Bail Fund has been overwhelmed with donations and suggest sending them elsewhere. There's definitely a lot of places you can send money for protesters and the like, bail funds, things like that and also just generalized black lives matter charities that are raising

money. I very much suggest doing that if you're in America. Yeah, because you've got to try and do something. And get out to a protest if you can if you're not immunocompromised or any of that. Yeah. Because I forgot about COVID. I forgot it was happening. It's it's all happening so much. Everything happens so much. Now fortunately there are some bright spots happening throughout this. There are some very fun videos of people getting away from the police doing all kinds of fun stuff. But we have some new allies in the fight.

And these ones come in the form of K-pop stands. Yes, finally some good news. What are they been up to, Lou? This is, I was struggling to find a story we could enjoy in this time. But I did find one. K-pop fans spam Dallas Police, snitch app with videos and memes to support protesters. On Saturday, the Dallas Police Department posted a tweet telling people to send them videos from

ongoing protests against police brutality via the I-watch Dallas app. You fucking idiots, you dumb morons. Who's first of all? Who is at the protest taking videos of other protesters and sending it in? Snitches. Snitches. So probably nobody. If you have a video of illegal activity from the protests and are trying to share it with Dallas PD, you can download it to our I-watch Dallas app, they wrote. You can remain anonymous.

Well, you'd fucking want to. Instead, Twitter users are flooding the official snitching app with unrelated videos, memes, the official snitching app with unrelated videos, memes, K-pop fancams, and even footage of the police themselves. Some people have been submitting media, such as SpongeBob SquarePants' memes and the B-movie script to the Dallas Police's app. Others have sent footage of police violence. However, by far the largest most coordinated effort appears to have come from K-pop

fans who have no shortage of videos to spam the police with. It appears to be working too. Dallas PD announced I-watch Dallas was temporarily down just one day after directing people to use the app citing technical difficulties. Exactly what the difficulties were remains unclear though many Twitter users have attributed to the K-pop fans coordinated spamming efforts. The Dallas Police Department's website was also down at the time of writing due to an overwhelmed server. Beautiful. It's just beautiful just thinking about some fucking shitty policeman having to go through this app and it's just fucking BTS fan cams. Just dog shit after dog shit. Maybe it'll make them a

better person. But yeah there's a there are some things like that anonymous has made a little little reappearance. I forgot about anonymous just kind of popped up out of nowhere and started like hacking police websites, doxing thousands of police email addresses and passwords. kind of popped up out of nowhere and started like hacking police websites, doxing thousands of police email addresses and passwords. One of them the password was LinkedIn. I loved the list of policemen's passwords that included things like LinkedIn was the most bizarre one. Why is LinkedIn your password? My goodness. Just adding to the list of reasons police are so overwhelmingly dumb.

They've also been, if this was them, I don't want to attribute it to the wrong people. But they had also been like hacking into the frequencies that police scanners use and playing like poker music. Yeah, I definitely heard a few of those. Chocolate rain YouTube video in Chicago in Chicago. Classic! I turn away from the mic to breathe. Good stuff and we support all of these efforts. We do. We truly. If you were able to do these things you should be using your weird hacker powers for good. We appreciate it. We don't have any, not that smart. Not at all. Don't know how to code anything. Maybe Theo can give that a go th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to to to th. I, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, thi. Oh, thi. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi. I thi. not that smart. Not at all, don't know how to code anything. That's maybe Theo can give that a go when he's not shitting out of his doo-do ass. Poor Theo.

Poor Theo is, he's not with us due to dying from intestinal problems. He is shitting and or farting at the time of recording. Poor man. Dying from all of the liquids flying out of all of his holes. Now I believe it's time for a very specific segment of Nature Corner. to the place I belong, we'll take some nature corner, rubber crab, sniffing my dick. Cicor, it's nature corner, rubber crab, sniffed my dick. Cicin'c'cah. Cicin'c'cah.

It's Nature Corner, baby, and this comes to us from The Gazette in Janesville, Wisconsin. So this was sent into us from multiple people for reasons that may soon be apparent. You like that? Yeah, it was pretty good. Yeah. Hundreds joined Floyd protest along Janesville Thoroughfare by Catherine W. Izzer. More than a hundred people showed up along Milton Avenue to protest the killing of George Floyd, the Minneapolis man who died after a police officer knelt on his neck for almost nine minutes. A second smaller group of people planned to step in with guns if things got out of control, which they didn't. The Janesville Police Department had two officers present. A

Rock County Sheriff's Deputy was there as well. They were backed up by a variety of individuals who said they were ready to step in if needed. God this cowboy shit is just... Embarrassing. It's fucking embarrassing. Mr. Mr. Policeman? I'll help you. You need any help, sir? Fuck off. It's also, I know, I know that we were just talking about this before. Like, this was making me think, this whole week has been making me think about, like, you haven't seen those viral videos where like, um, a kid pulls up to somebody else's house and they have the security camera on the porch, and he's like, you, you, you, you, you you, you you, you you, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you need, th, th, th, th, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi to to to to to any any any any any any any any any any any any any any any any any any any any any any any any any any to to to to to to to to to th any th th th th th th th th th th the th th th the, do the, do the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thin the the the the the like a kid pulls up to somebody else's house and they have the security camera on the porch and he's like walking up and then he sees the American flag out the front and he just stops and recites the

Pledge of Allegiance like a fucking robot. Apart from being extremely pathetic, it's also like you have been brainwashed. I used to think that was really like a caric have been brainwashed. I used to think that was really like a caricature of people in America. But it's so real. Like, yeah, like I saw the footage, you know, when all of the lockdowns and stuff started happening of people like taking their little fucking kids out to the end of the driveway every morning so that them and all the other kids on the street could recite the pledge of allegiance at the same time. time time time time time time time time ti the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the thea thea thea the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the to to to to to to to to the to to the to to to to to thea to thea to the thea the the the the the the the fucking kids out to the end of the driveway every morning so that them and all the other kids on the street could recite the Pledge of Allegiance at the same time. Mm-hmm.

What the fuck is wrong with you? Imagine saying to your kids, oh, we have to go out and pledge loyalty to the motherland this morning. Yeah, you don't want to be brainwashed by like communism or mouncy tongue or anything though. That'd be fucking crazy stuff. That'd be crazy. Hold on. Just got to stand up at the baseball game and take the hat off. But yeah that's what this shit makes me think of, this kind of like, whoa I better I better get my fucking 9 millimeter and go down and stand next to a cop in case they need me to be a cop too. Maybe they'll deputize deputize deputize deputize the deputize the deputize the deputize their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi thi their thi. I to get to get a to get to get to get to get toe. I tooom-a. I toe. I's a to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get. to get. to get. to get. to get. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. toe. I. I. I. I. I. I's. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. to. to. to. to. to. to. their. their. their. their. their. to. their. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. cop in case they need me to be a cop too. Maybe they'll deputize me during the protest. Just an absolute ridiculous embarrassing male fantasy. And it is so much. Like I know I know there's been a lot of talk this week as well about like you know how much of American like corporate

entertainment is fucking cop worship and CSI and SVU and Oh so much like fucking What is it Brooklyn 99 and all these things and? But there's also that whole element as well of like? Things like taken and death wish and this just this entire class of like reactionary entertainment in America that is all about, I wish something terrible would happen.

Not to me. I don't want it to happen to me. I want it to happen to someone in my life, like my daughter or my wife or whatever, and then I would have a legitimized reason to go out and commit murder. And realistically, it's like when you imagine an argument going differently in your head where you say really cool and smart stuff, when it actually happened, you probably wouldn't do shit. Yeah. I feel like the only, the only reasonable interpretation of that that I've seen in a movie, is maybe

death sentence starring Kevin Bacon, friend of the show by six degrees Kevin um directed by Australian James one who made saw and all that stuff, you know Haven't seen it It's a it's it's fine. It is what it is but But it also has the whole element of like he's extremely scared the whole time that anything is happening and basically the first Person in like the gang that killed his son that he offers is like pretty much by accident. He's like, you know, they're struggling over a knife and he just falls over onto him.

And then he goes, oh no. And like, that seems much more akin to the kind of thing that would actually happen than, you know, a cop turning to you and saying, we need you to dispense justice now. We need Steve here to shoot the gun. We need Sean from Racine and his friend Owen from Janesville, who both had side arms and said they would assist the police if things got out of control. He fucking loses. The two men declined to give their last names and stood in the CVS parking lot because guns

are not allowed on federal property. Pussies. Like both men said they don't have any crowd control training but they have been to the firing range. Oh, thank God. Like, do you think that if shit popped off at a protest and you also took out your gun and started shooting like one one plaincloth civilian took out their gun and started shooting other plaincloth civilians do you think that would help the

police do you think they would be like sweet this has really simplified things. I mean it probably would help them that's probably ideal for the police in their scenario. We must kill as many of them. That's probably ideal for the police in their scenario. We must kill as many of them as possible. When asked if the police needed help, police sergeant Dean Sucas said he felt police had things under control. Greg Hoft of Janesville bought 12 boxes of bees to the event. The bees were on a trailer that he towed into the post office parking lot just behind the protesters. And you can see a photo of this thing.

Big boxes of bees. It's just brought boxes of bees. the whole much box of bees. Now I know what you're thinking. Hey buddy, what's with the bees? That is what I was thinking. Well, well, a great explanation for this. Hoof, whose name was on the side of the bee boxes,

posted his plans on Facebook. Quote, the riot-control bees are in their holding yard waiting to clear the streets of Janesville and keep peace to this county. I'm willing to bring them in and kick them over if things get out of control. I love the idea that they're riot control bees as though they have any agency. Like, yeah. They're trained in this scenario. Oh, and I like that I like the description of deploying the riot control bees is to kick over the box that they're in.

He's like, I'm going to deploy the bees and you just kind of kick it and you just kind of kick it and put your arm up over your face and run away. How are you going to get all your bees back in the boxes, pal? What are you, your bees are gone. You've lost 12 boxes of bees. Those bees cost good money. Just a terrible plant all around. Greg, you fucking idiot. There's so much bee content on the show lately.

So I've heard. So, um, police learned that he planned to release the bees if the protest became unruly. Hoft was asked to leave and did, Zuka said. Hey, uh, you mind motioning at the bees? You mind just, uh... I'm getting the bees out here, buddy. I love them just being like, hey, what's these boxes? And he's like, oh, I just brought some bees for backup and they're like, uh, no, thanks. Thanks, thanks. You can leave. Once again, thi thi again, thi again, thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. theea. to th. to th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the b the be. the be. You can leave. Once again, much like the other guys, do you think that if things start getting unruly and you were to kick over your 12 boxes of bees, that the police will be like, thank you? Bees do not respect police.

Thank you for sorting this out. Oh, man. I would have been great though. I would have loved to see a swarm of bees on some policemen. Attacking some cops. Imagine if they only went for the cops, you know? It'd be amazing. Allied bees. Maybe we should start training them. Maybe that's the next step. Oh my goodness. Now we do have another item for Nature Corner this week. I've got Nature Corner, because that's the only good thing to think about right now. Is it good, though? Why don't you hit me with the next story?

I mean, I personally think it's good that monkeys stole coronavirus test samples in India. This is from the Daily News, New York Daily News. It was a bit too much monkeying around. Oh boy, here we're terable. Not a great, not a great intro, but I respect the effort. Monkeys in India attacked a medical official and stole coronavirus test samples, Roydars reported.

All the samples were positive tests. The troop surprise attack happened earlier this week in the state of Uttar Pradesh. According to Reuters, a monkey was caught on video holding one of the samples. Doctors retested the people whose samples were swiped by the primates, and they were positive. Officials are not sure if monkeys can contract coronavirus. In April, 15 monkeys suspiciously dropped dead in Uttar Pradesh, but doctors said they died of pneumonia, not COVID-19.

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Maybe release them in a different country. Smear it all over some bees, kick the box of bees over. Exactly. I'm sorry, I'm distracted. At the bottom, in my ad, you know how you get ads when you're reading a terrible news site. Uh-huh. Too many one, I'd say. It's advertising a red bubble t-shirt. Okay. And what it says is, uh, Clinton made me want to be faithful. Bush made me want to be smarter. Obama made me want to be better. Trump made me want to be Canadian. Damn! So, uh, that's a targeted ad for me, which is very concerning. It's very specifically for you.

Don't like that one. Who's wearing these? You ever see these things and you're like, who is buying this? You know who's wearing it? It's the, um, it's the, like, middle-aged white ladies that you've seen on videos at the protest yelling at everyone to behave better? Yeah, mm-hmm. The ones that are posting on Facebook about how they they agree with it, but maybe the looting's not really convincing people to come over to your cause. God damn. As Martin Luther King Jr. said, beware the white moderate. Oh, God.

The one who says that I agree with your cause, but I don't agree with your methods. I just, I had a message from a family member and saying these sorts of things and bringing up the, Martin Luther King was a pacifist fallacy, I suppose. It's definitely a point of argument they love to bring up that Martin Luther King just wanted us all to protest peacefully. Well, thus, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thu, thu, thus, thus, thu, but thu, but thu, thu, but thu tho, but I tho, but I tho, but I tho, but I thu tho-a, but I tho, but I tho, but I tho, but I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th, but I th, but I th, but I th, but I th, but I th, th th th th th th th tho, I thi thi, I thi, I tho, I tho, I tho, I thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, they love to bring up that Martin Luther King just wanted us all to protest peacefully. Well guess what? They shot him. So maybe it's a terrible argument that you're making. And as has been noted over and over and over again, there is no such thing as protesting white supremacy in a way that is amenable to white supremacists. There is nothing you can do. You can very peacefully and quietly take one knee during the national anthem of a football game and hundreds of thousands, millions of people

and the president of your country will lose their fucking mind. Yeah. People will demand that you lose your job. They'll probably threaten to kill you. You know, you can wear a t-shirt at a basketball game. People will not be happy about that. There is no acceptable way to do it. There's no such thing. Because they don't care. They're not going to come around to your cause because they truly don't thir th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho the the the the the the the tho tho tho the tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho the their you their their you you you you you their you their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th th th th tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thoooooooooooooooooooooooo to to to to tooooooooooooo their their their to do it. There's no such thing. Because they don't care. They're not going to come around to your cause because they truly don't care. And that's why we are where we are, because violence is the only language that is going to be heard because it's the language that they use. Well, like, yeah, I just, this is a thing that we have said on this show many times, about the ways in which the governments of Western democracies have just made protest part of

the fabric of what they do. So, like, you can look at America after 9-11 and going into Iraq where, you know, they made their little free speech zones, which were also called cages, that they put people in, so that if you were planning to protest Bush's inauguration, they would just take you around the corner into an alley and push you into a nice little chain-link cage and say, you could do all your, expressing your freedom speech in here. This is the little cage where you're allowed to do it. Yeah.

And, you know, in Australia, I think that Australia is extremely addicted to the peaceful protest fallacy. Oh, for sure. Australia is extremely addicted to the peaceful protest fallacy. Oh for sure. Australia has become extremely adept at having protests where tens of thousands of people show out in the streets of capital cities. And I'm not, I want to clarify, I'm not criticizing anybody who goes out and does this. But people are, people are very concerned with being seen to do the right thing, and to, you know,

not doing any of the stuff that makes government say, oh, you're doing the wrong thing, you're making everybody look bad, you're being too disruptive, you're damaging businesses and property, and all that sort of thing. And so you put in for a permit and the police say, well we'll make sure to have enough police there to kick the shit out of you if anybody gets out of line and then people show up and they start their march at the time they're allowed to and then they go along the route that they're told they're allowed to and then they get to the end and at end and at end and at the end and at the end end end end end end end end end end end end end end end end end end end end end end end end end end end end end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end and at the end the end and at the end and at the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end the end everybody the end everybody the end everybody the end everybody the end of the end of everybody the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the end of the the end of the end of the end everybody the end everybody the endto the end and at the end everybody peacefully goes home and the government says, cool, back to whatever the fuck we were doing.

How many of those protests did we have for asylum seekers? For asylum seekers? Absolutely nowhere. For going to Iraq, for trying to get Tony Abbott out of office, for all kinds of shit where like just record numbers of people turning out to express their deep, deep dissatisfaction with things that governments are doing in their name and the government knows that if people are going to go out and lawfully conduct themselves during those protests that it won't bother any business owners and it won't bother any

landowners and it won't bother anybody and it won't disrupt anything and that's not what a protest is for. It's supposed to be disruption. Yeah. And yeah, I think, like personally, I think that, I think that Australia and people in Australia who go out to protests are, they're kind of, I don't know, they're a little bit in this sort of symbiotic relationship with the government now about this stuff where the government says this is how you're allowed to protest and they go okay that's what we'll do.

Yes daddy. Yeah everybody goes back to it the next day. Again I'm not like I go to him as well. I'm not, I'm not criticizing anybody, I'm just saying like... It's just beyond that here. Yeah, it's so far beyond that. And I also get that it's not, it's not the same in terms of what it's about. But I guess I'm just saying that like, those people who complain, hey, you're making people look bad or there's people who are co-octing things by turning over cars and smashing in windows and stuff like that. It that, but I I I I I I I I I I th th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. thi, thi, like thi, like thi, like thi thi that's that, like, like, like, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, there, there's there's there, there, thu, there, tho, tho, th.... th. th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. theean, that that thooooo. thooooo. thee. thooooo. the. tho. the. tho. co-opting things by turning over cars and smashing in windows and stuff like that. It's an expression of rage. I mean there probably are people co-opting it but it's the minority and that's probably all you're gonna see in the media as well. Also who gives a fuck? Yeah I also truly don't care that. Who gives a fuck? Who gives a fuck? Who created the conditions? Who got their windows smashed or something. Yeah, like they don't have fucking insurance to deal with it all.

Exactly. All that kind of thing, you know? Yeah. It's, um, yeah, it's just, it's pretty crazy to look at because it feels like something. It's perhaps something that should be happening in Australia also. Yeah. I mean, I think definitely Australia needs to focus more on indigenous deaths in custody because it's really not that far

off. What's going on here? We saw a video just yesterday of a cop in New South Wales and Sydney talking to a group of teams and one of them said something to him that he didn't like. So he immediately walked over to him, turned him around, put his hands behind his back, and then tripped his legs out from under him, slamming him face down onto the concrete from standing high. Disgusting. Truly, thugs is what the police are on every level. And of course, like with the American stuff, if you look at, you know, the replies to that post and you're on social media, you will see people saying,

oh well he shouldn't have been a smart Alec to the police. He shouldn't have said something like that to the police if you didn't want to get treated like that. I'm just like, have you ever met a cop? Like, also like, you can say whatever the fuck you like without it giving the police the right to literally smash your fucking teeth. Exactly, they're not some protected class apart from the fact that you're going to get a bigger penalty if you injure one of them, you know. And so when the New South Wales police chief or whoever the fuck he is, was asked about this today, he was asked, do you, you know, are you concerned that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their the police the police the police their their the police the police the police the whoever the fuck he is, was asked about this today. He was asked, do you, you know, are you concerned that that video is going to have a negative effect on your relationship with the community that you're policing? His answer was,

I'm concerned that people are going to take that video and try to use it against us and make it look bad. Yeah, like the physical video that does make you look bad probably is going to make you look bad. Yeah, you said we have a great relationship with the community that we police and as we all know there's nothing indigenous Australians love more than the fucking cops. Oh yeah I just love this myth of like community with police you know they have the like coffee with the cop events and stuff like that and go to schools and whatever and meant to act like there's this happy part that's there to protect

the community, which is definitely what I remember being brought up to think about police. You know, that's what they tell you at school, if anything bad happens call a police. It's hard having kids because like... Yeah, it must be. I, you know, we struggle. We're like, on one hand, you know, my wife wants to like be honest with our kids. We've had a lot of stuff. And I think that that's noble, but at the same time, like, they're like four and six years old. There's a lot of stuff that they just can't understand. And like I don't know what to do.

Like I, like, my kids get fucking cop propaganda at school. Yeah. Constable fucking Kenny comes to their school and says I'm a puppet and the cops are your friend and I'm like no they're not though are they? Yeah, certainly not. Yeah but at the same time like am I supposed to be telling my six-year-old like the cops are not your friends and don't talk to them and like if you get lost somewhere don't ask anyone for help. Yeah exactly I don't know what the alternative is.. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I the the th. I th. I the th. I the th. I th. I th. I the th. I the the th. I they's they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're not. I'm like. I'm like they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're not they're not they're not they're not they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're th. I th. I'm like. I'm like like like. I'm like like. I'm like like like. I'm like like like. I'm like like like. I'm like. I'm like like. I'm like. I'm like. I'm like. Yeah, exactly. I don't know what the alternative is. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of two-year-olds on Twitter that say things like, fuck fascism. So, I don't know what you're doing with your kids there, Andrew. Yeah. Everyone's kids online are pretty woke. But anyway, that's really not that big a deal as far as problems go. How do I talk to my kids about how to interact with the police?

Because as we said, they're not going to be the ones having the problems. And so I guess I kind of just want to finish on the note of saying like, to the people like us out there, to the white people. To the white people. Black lives matter, and if you cannot understand by looking at what is happening right now, around the world, if you cannot understand from looking at this footage, if you cannot understand from seeing case after case of people like George Floyd, Brianna Taylor, Armad Arbore, Tamiar Rice, Trayvon Martin, Eric Garner, Oscar Grant,

Philando Castile, all of these people, person after person after person, just murdered by the police on film for seemingly nothing other than being in front of a cop in the color of their skin. If you cannot see all of that stuff without making it about yourself somehow, without making it about some all lives matter shit, without trying to bring statistics of you know also how many white people get killed by the police into it. If you can't see all of that without

somehow trying to make it about yourself or your own feelings or your own place in the world in some way. Oh your brother-in-law who's a cop. Yep the good cop you know then you are part of the problem. It is an institutional problem and you are part of the institution. You've got to be able to start looking at it and listening and just fucking understanding what is happening and say, well, you know, those thousands of people we're seeing get tear-gast and beaten and rubber-bulleted on the streets, they all did something to deserve it. And the cops are all correct. That's right, the cops are infallible.

Then you have some massive shit to work through. Do what you can. Please do work through it. That's fine. But do what you can to support people who need it in this moment. Yes. You know, give you support, listen. Try and learn something. Give your support with money, if you can at this stage, I think is a very important thing to do. Share posts. I know that posting is not activism, but sharing important posts, sharing things that people can do to help out, I feel like it's something you can be doing tangibly right now. Yep. So like I said, we will put a link to that fundraiser for David

Dungay Jr'ss mother's appeal. There are some other indigenous justice charities that we will throw in there as well. There are a lot. So we will put some of those links in there. Please make a contribution if you can. As you know, we do have a Patreon for the show because we make two episodes every week how about instead of giving us some money you give some money to these causes instead that is what we would love for people to do this week and if you are protesting out there please stay safe and please don't get shot by a cop please don't please don't look after yourself look after each other just do what you can. And fuck cops.

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