Boonta Vista - EPISODE 153: Channel 88

Episode Date: June 14, 2020

Andrew, Theo, and Ben look at Australia's racist past, Australia's racist present, and Tim the Yowie Man. *** Support our show and get exclusive bonus episodes by subscribing on Patreon: www.patreon.com/BoontaVista *** Email the show at [e-mail]! Call in and leave us a question or a message on 1800-317-515 to be answered on the show! *** Twitter: twitter.com/boontavista Website: boontavista.com Merchandise: boontavista.com/merchandise Twitch: twitch.tv/boontavista

Hello and welcome to Buena Vista episode 153. I am Ben and I'm here in the beautiful Madre de Dioz region of Peru on the set of the movie Fitzcoraldo. The birds are singing, dappled sunlight plays on the rich leaf litter of the jungle floor as the dense foliage says softly in the breeze. And over here is Theo, who is busily attempting to staunch the bleeding from a bulletwood he sustained from a warning shot when her tog fired in the vicinity of Klauskinski. Theo, hello. Hey, how is it going, Ben?

You know what? Enough about me. Yeah. In the sort of short view? Look, not ideal right now. In the sort of short view, I do not enjoy being shot with a bullet. Long view, I don't know, I still got to hold this fucking boat. So... That's probably the worst thing about working. Not a lot to look forward to right now, I would say, between being shot and having to pull a boat over a mountain. But it is, you know, it's beautiful here. So there's there's there's there's there's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th enough. th enough. th enough. th enough. th enough. th enough. th enough, th enough, th enough, to to to to to to to the. I, tho enough, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the enough the enough the enough the enough the enough the enough the enough the enough the enough the enough the enough the enough the the to the the to to the the enough to the enough. being shot and having to pull a boat over a mountain. But it is, you know, it's beautiful here. So there's that. Yeah, yep.

Movie seems like it's going to be good. Yeah. So far? Yeah. Um. Not really sure what... Okay. So, so we, so we, as in me, Theo, uh,ornadozzog and, you know, of course, Klauskinski, the rest of the crew, the slaves that we've enlisted along the way, so we are pulling the boat, this boat over a mountain. Yes. But in the movie, we are also pulling his boat over a mountain. And you can see the connection there immediately. Yeah.

Okay. So if you, okay, I can see that you seem confused by this, so let me break it down for a little bit. The movie is about pulling a boat over a mountain. Sure. So we're pulling a boat over a mountain. Okay, I'm just going to suggest perhaps, um, I think back to, I guess the magic the magic, I'm the magic, I'm the magic, I'm the magic, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, the magic, the magic, the magic, the magic, the magic, the magic, the the the the the the the the the thia, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. that you that you that you that you that you to see, that you to see, that you that you to see, to see, thi.a, thi.a, thi.a, thi.a, thi.a, thi.a, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. toeeeeea. toea. toea. thea. thea. theean. thea. thea. thi. thi. thethink back to I guess the magic of early French cinema. You got the you got the horrible little rocket landing in the awful moon in the awful moon right right now correct me if I'm wrong but they did not actually pierce the

armor of the moon with a with a rocket to produce that visage. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looked like absolute dog shit. You could tell it wasn't the moon. You could tell it wasn't the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the horrible the the the the the the the tho the tho the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th the tho tho tho tho thoooooooooooo. rooooooooo. roo. roo. ro. roa.ro. roa. roa. roa. thoooo. thooo. the the the rocket to produce that visage. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looked like absolute dog shit. You could tell it wasn't the moon, you can tell that rocket wasn't real. I'm just saying that if you want a movie where Klauskinski is on a boat that's moving over a mountain. Okay, which apparently we do. Yes, we've been told in a very dour German voice that that's very much what we want. You simply, you put Klauskinski on a boat and then you move that boat over the mountain and then when he doesn't want to do it, you threaten to shoot him with a gun. Okay, now, I feel like there's a better way here, but I also do not want to get shot with a gun again. Certainly. So I'll th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th the the the the the the the the to the the the the to to the the to to to to to to to to tho to the the the the to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th the the the the the the the the the theeeeean to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to theuuuu. thee'll just going to leave it for now. Yeah, and let's check in with Andrew. Andrew's over here, he's seems to be struggling a little bit. He's been given three jobs.

The first of course fighting off the various species of venomous snake that are around, trying to figure out the logistics of moving a very big boat over a hill and also try to record Hollywood quality sound. You look like having a tough time buddy. Well some of us can multitask and some of us can't. Which are you saying? In order to prove, in order to prove my go get a gumption to want a hurtsog, I have actually requested a fourth job which is to be Miguel Aniel Fuentes's understud in the role of Cholo.

Oh, and that's nice. Yeah. How are you doing with that? Ah, pretty good. Pretty good. You need backups in case someone else get shot with a gun. And considering the amount of times that a gun is being fired around here, and the lack of access to any sort of hospital or medical facilities available to us, it'd probably be good if everyone had at least several understudies. Yeah the the thudies. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, thudies, thu to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to, to, to, to, to, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. thi thi, thi thi, thi thi thi, thi, the the, the the, the the, thei.a.a.a'a'a'n, theii. thei. the. the. the had at least several understudies. Yeah. Audience reviews for this movie on Google, Five Stars, No one will ever make this kind of film ever. We... I would say pretty safe in that assessment. Fingers crossed. Well I would go so far as to say someone did. You know, they're very absolute about the likelihood of this film being made, including the film itself, you know?

Foolish language to use, especially, I hate it when people do a review of the movie that hasn't come out yet. From our point of view, seeing if we're still making the movie. Yeah, we're in Fitzgerald though. The movie is already out, then what is Theo doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho hoing, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, the thi, thi, tho, their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi.eo.eo. We's thoo. We're thooo. thooooo. We're thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, though. And you said Google. The movie's already out, then what is Theo doing, hauling a boat over a mountain while bleeding profusely from the abdomen? That's so true. I will say, and this is not a criticism, Theo. You are actually doing a startling lack of hauling a boat over a mount at the moment

while you're sitting down looking after your bulletin. I'm just going to to point out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out shooting've been meeting to talk about. If you can haul with both arms, they would literally double your efforts. You don't want to favor one arm. Although at this point, it's not done. And for that to be your boat hauling arm forever. That's so true. It's like you don't want to play Pokemon with just one really good Pokemon. No, that's right. You want to, yeah. So those nuns that did the weird stuff about being left-handed, they were right to do it. You know, let me just put this to you. If these people didn't want to be hauling a boat over a mountain, they wouldn't be here. You know what I'm saying?

Much like Australia's history, in which apparently there was no slavery, people just came on down, you know? They just came on down. It was like the price is right. People were hanging out in some different countries and they said, hey, I hear a commotion over there. I think it's the new neighbors. Maybe we should pop over, see if they need any help moving anything. Volunteer to move that stuff for the better neighbors. Maybe we should pop over, see if they need any help moving anything. Volunteer to move that stuff for the better part of a century. Yes, could we perhaps move all of your sugar cane for you forever in exchange for maybe some pizza? Oh no, you have a whip. Oh, I live here now.

Oh, that's interesting. So folks, you know how a bunch of countries are currently grappling internally with their long histories of racism, colonialism and such? Well, Australia is no difference except that we were, apparently are just choosing to not have that, not to wrestle with that, I guess. Yeah, I mean wrestling is a lot of work. Oh, especially when you got one arm in a sling, your good hauling arm. How are you going to wrestle with your hauling arm, all bandaged up, you know?

Yeah, we were just talking about this before we started recording, how, in America, obviously, there are a lot of people who are busy slinging all lives matter hashtags around on the internet, arguing with their grandchildren on Facebook, talking about how actually everything is great and equal and it's all wonderful and maybe if you, you know, hadn't have been there in your own house acting suspiciously, the police wouldn't have shown you. But there are things changing over there, you know, we've seen a lot of the recent stuff like the the Marines and the Navy banning the Confederate flag. Yeah, well it really got her done. Yes, yes. There's been that sort of stuff.

There's been the seemingly voluntary removal of, I mean, obviously there's been statues getting pulled down during protests. But there's also been the just removal by, you know, city councils and state governments of stuff that can see the writing on the wall and I said let's just take this thing down and put it away. But over here we've had a few conversations about that and the Australian people are apparently not ready for it, including the Prime Minister, number one Australian person. We've sorted out our rankings right up the top there. He reckons the very bottom person in Australia you know the 22 millionth to or however really ugly baby.

The baby. The baby nothing not even aesthetically pleasing. Yep. Nobody nobody is commenting on that the photo of that baby on Facebook. Oh, brutal. Imagine if you posted like, you know, welcome to the world, blah, blah, blah, blah, didn't get any interaction whatsoever. Not a single like. And then like a day later you posted a recipe and all these people were like, oh, I'm going to cook, love it. What's worse? No response, or just one person doing the sad react? Oh no. Ooh, sorry about drying the baby.

So the Prime Minister was doing an interview with Ben Fordham on 2GP, not racist but number one with racists. Nah, it's pretty racist. And they were talking about the removal of statues, which I believe immigration minister or champion of the Australian border force for I don't know hitting you with a baton Peter Dutton. He was doing an interview and described it as like everybody ripping pages out of history books. Which seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding of the issue. It's so good. This is the thing that we've all been talking about with the the thing. that the thing that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the that. that. that. that. that. that. I ta, ta. I ta. ta. I ta.a. I the the the the the the the the the of the issue. This is the thing that we've all been talking about with the removal of statue stuff is that people say, hey this is like 1984 man, you're rewriting history. You're trying to rewrite history and erase things and people

like no no history is still there. You got Wikipedia, you got your encyclopedia Britannica, you got your history books all that sort of thing. I think the fundamental change people are trying to make is could we perhaps stop having literal monuments to slavers? It's so weird it seems like there's like two fundamental understand of what statues are for. The first being that they're there as a monument to that person, right? The statue exists to say, hey, we're commemorating this person for what they did. And the second understanding is that they exist to jog your memory about history. You walk past when you're like, ah, that's right, King George the fifth existed. Fantastic.

That's why we've got that 30-foot-high statue of Ivan Malat in rural New South Wales. Just in case. Don't forget about him. Just remember him. I just remember that forest. Jesus. I actually, I saw somebody say, I have learned more about history from these statues being removed than I learned from

the statues when they were up. And I think that that's actually very, very astute because I feel the same way about all these things I've seen where it's like, oh, they had a statue up for this guy in the Netherlands and he killed 10 million Congolese people. You're like, oh, cool that you had a statue up about what a great guy this was. But it also says a lot about the whole history is written by the victors thing. These are all the people who made all the money off of like enslaving and and beating down other people and then they got to say, now put up a nice big statue of me in this town that I also own. So yeah, it's, it's, there is this fundamental debate about, is this erasing history or is this

just saying could we perhaps stop lionizing some of history's greatest monsters? So Peter Dutton did describe it as tearing pages out of history books. Which he's read by the way. He read those pages before we got to tear in them out. Oh, imagining sitting down reading a big book of history every night. Imagine him reading a book at all. All I'm picturing is him like sitting down, opening the book and then immediately beating it into submission for looking at him funny. Nah, he's going to be one of these guys who just like sits down every night and reads the 19th Winston Churchill biography that he's read. That, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, th, th, thi, thi, the the thi, thi, the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thii, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, their, their, their, their, the 19th Winston Churchill biography that he's read. That to me is like the essence of being a conservative who loves history is reading the one kind of history book about the one kind of person. And then taking brief breaks to read Tom Clancy books and be like,

yes, aircraft carriers are cool Mr. Clancy, you're correct. So the Prime Scott Morrison, was on Benford's show, being asked about the removal of statues, and he goes on to say, well, when you're talking about Captain James Cook, in his time, he was one of the most enlightened persons on these issues you could imagine. Okay. I can imagine a lot of things. Yeah. Don't tell me what I can or cannot imagine. I mean Australia when it was founded as a settlement as New South Wales was on the basis that there be no slavery. Was it? Can it? Can anyone do a fact check on that one? And while slave ships continued to travel around the world when Australia was established, yes, sure it was a pretty brutal settlement. Something, something genocide.

My forefathers... No, no, he's talking about for white people. Oh, they couldn't get the right kind of flower that they liked. There was, oh, a lot of rough stuff. My forefathers and four mothers were on the first and second fleets. It was a pretty brutal place, but there was no slavery in Australia. Huh. And so I think what we're seeing with some of these protests, they start on a fair point when they're raising issues about, you know, people's treatment in custody or things

like that. Fair issue. But now it's been taken over much more politically driven left-wing agendas, which are seeking to take advantage of these opportunities and push their political causes. I'm pretty sure the political causes are mainly stop letting the police murder people. I think. I'm happy to be proven wrong on that.

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in the mail. I actually already subscribed to Nuts magazine. Oh boy. So, um, we, this is a thing that came up in the early days of Buntavista, the show to which you are listening. The earliest days, I would say. Like the second episode, I think. No, it wasn't that early. We had a guest on a friend of the show, Victor Rodriguez, and we were talking about Australia's

strange fascination with blackface and gollywags and stuff, the people who love to do blackface and then say, hey I didn't know it was bad per se. And you know we were talking about how it's it's kind of weird because Australia doesn't have the same that same like history of slavery that America has. To which somebody wrote into the show quite correctly and said actually there was a bunch of slavery and I learned about a thing. I learned about like blackbirding where they went to islands in the area and stole people in order to bring them over and work in sugarcane fields and all that sort of stuff.

And they were enslaved, Aboriginal people, all that sort of stuff. So, you know, we immediately, the very next episode said, hey, this person wrote into us about this, they're quite correct. Here are the details of it, and we talked about it. And none of us are the prime minister is one thing to note. I think that's a, that's one thing you can say about us collectively. At least one distinction. But I think, I think the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the very the very the very the very the very the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the other thi.ea.ea.ea.ea.ea.ea nea nea nea.ea.ea.ea.ea.ea.ea.a. nea. nea. nea. the the the the the the the that's one thing you can say about us collectively. At least one distinction. But I think the other distinction to make was that like, I think what I was also trying to say in a fairly poorly worded way was that obviously Australia, you know, it was built on stolen land. There was a genocide of the people who lived here before the

European settlers came, but we don't have the, we don't have like the extremely, I guess what's the way to put? Obviously there is the entire history of everything that we have done to indigenous people here. But America has a different history in the sense that you can walk around in places like, you know, Washington. You can look at the Washington monument. That right there, built by slaves. Like you can go all through the south and look at all of the plantation mansions.

You can see all of these buildings and massive structures and stuff from their history that were all built using slavery like you can literally look with your own eyes at the infrastructure of the country that was built off the slave labor of people that they stole from other countries to bring that you know so I do think that it's kind of it is an also horrific situation there but one that has has one that has a different impact in the way that it is woven into the country's history and people's relationships with each other. So as from the Guardian, Scott Morrison has walked back his incorrect observation that there was no slavery in Australia, in Australia and acknowledge that quote, all sorts of

hideous practices have taken place during our history. The Prime Minister on Friday said the observation he made on Thursday that there was no slavery in this country related to the principles that existed when the colony of New South Wales was founded, that there was to be no lawful slavery. Lawful slavery. Cool. Cool. Asked whether the practice of black burning could be considered slavery, Morrison told reporters, he didn't want to get into the history wars. You guys, I don't want to get into facts here or what happened in the past when we're talking about this stuff.

I just want to say the thing I said. I've got facts in my stuff. I hate, I hate when I'm forced to get into this stuff. I just want to say the thing I said. I've got facts in my stuff. I hate when I'm forced to get into the history wars. In which I'm forced to read a thing and acknowledge what actually happened. I hate when there's a gigantic worldwide conversation going on about historic racism in the fabric of our various societies and I've got to think about all this history stuff I got I got I got I think read a book I'm just a I'm just a bloke I'm just a guy I'm just a guy I'm just a guy I'm gonna read a history book I'm just a daggy dad I'm just a daggy dad

so uh we had our usual press commentators and such way in on this. We had Peter Van Onsalen tweet. I genuinely don't think the factual mistakes the PM makes are willful. I think it's more likely ignorance. He's not that much older than me and what we were taught at school was a very sanitized version of indigenous modern history. He likely just hasn't updated his knowledge and why would he need to? No. It's, I hate this country so much. It's such a fun thing to think about that the press gallery, the people who are supposed to keep our political masters in in check, don't believe that there should be any kind of like historical literacy as part of the process to becoming the leader of the country?

It's like so fucking stupid to like, right, even if you take this at absolute face value, right, and you say he's just addressing like the cause, right? He just didn't look into it, he just didn't know. That's not an excuse in any fashion. Like it's not anything. Like if you are making comment or policy decision as the most powerful person in the country, not knowing about what you're talking about by not looking into it at all, is exactly the same as just fucking lying about it. Like it's a fucking insane thing to say. It's I can't, I can't get over it. Especially because the the alternative to knowing what you're talking about is apparently just winging it.

Yep, that's the only options. This is also the same guy who had it just like kept digging in on this thing on Twitter where it was like, yes the Nazis were socialists, it's in the name. And then when a bunch of people got mad at him about and he wrote a whole article about it, like people were wooned to me. Well, he, um, he does love to say like, I am a professor of politics at a university and you can't get a job at a university and you can't get a job at a university if you're a fucking idiot. Which is totally true.

No, there's never been anybody who was employed by a university like say Jordan Peterson who got up and did just inane rambling. We all seen lecturers try and use computers before. Yakes. So we also had a comment from former foreign minister and former leader of the Liberal Party, Alexander Downer, proving that basically it goes a lot further to be a white person from the right kind of family in this country than anything else. With his comment that black birding may have been awful by today's standards, but it wasn't slavery. Slavery was abolished in the British Empire in 1833.

Blackbirding began in 1863. So as you can see, QED. Well you see, it's very important that we help you understand the distinction. You see, slavery was the practice of like deceiving or kidnapping people in order to work as unpaid laborers, often very distant to their native land. You're classic slavery situation. Whereas the other thing, it was coercing people through deception or kidnapping to work as unpaid laborers in countries very distant to their native land.

But that... A totally different thing. That's a totally different spelling. So is he just imagining like the slavery police a real thing that existed and the, you know, people cared about at that time. We're just rocking up to Cain Farm's going, hey, hey, uh, what'd you got there? Are those slaves? You guys doing some slavery? And they're like, nah, no, no, we're doing blackbirding. I think you'll find it's quite different. Okay, cool. Cool. And that's, and that's legal, is it? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, we looked it up. It's blackbirding. We called it a different thing. Get your blackbirding license. You're all good. Yep. Right here, yep.

Oh boy. And can I just go and have a chat to them? See if they want to be here? Ah, wouldn't even bother. You don't need to talk to that. Don't go look over there. It's all good what's happening over tho. worry about it. So, yeah, awful stuff basically just tricking people into getting on a boat with, you know, lots of great claims of the wonderful life that they can have. Which, very sadly reminds me of the Randy Newman song Sail Away, where he's singing as a character,

like the narrative of the lyrics is that he is one of the people who convinced like Africans to get on to the ships to go to America. And so all of the lyrics of the song are about how wonderful everything is over there and how it's really great in America and you got as much food as you can eat and you know you don't have to do don't have to do anything that sucks all you got to do is hang out with your family and everything and it's so beautiful to be an American and that sounds like exactly the same thing that blackbirding was but different name and plus they abolished slavery in 1833 so why would they be doing it 30 years later?

It's a classic rebrand. Well, it's like how, you know, they banned all those chokeholds for the NYPD, like years ago? Yeah. So you know how they just don't do those anymore? People are like yelling, hey, you can't do that. That's illegal. And they're like, oh, why don't you file a report with the police unit? So just to catch up on this one, in an editorial on June 2nd, the Sydney morning Herald drew some parallels between Australia and the US's history on race.

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Check and mate. Oh man. But, uh, you know, we... It's all very weird, because the closest thing that we have to this sort of conversation happening in Australia at the moment, is taking Chris Lilly's blackface shows off like Netflix and stuff. And then everybody going, oh, step too far. Yeah, it's just the death of culture.

It's so funny that like Australia has so few cultural exports, yes. That like taking fucking Chris Lilly shows off Netflix means us like all the Australian content is gone. All we had was the Blackface sketch show and nothing else. Well, there's only so many things in white culture. You've got blackface sketch show. You got the key change going into the chorus for Come On Eileen. What else is there?

No, that's it. That's those two things, we got rid of one of them. If they ever come on, I'd like, we're fucked, basically. And as wife of the show, my wife, Eleanor was saying when we were talking about this. She was like, it's very funny because again, we're having the same conversation as we are about like taking down statues, right? Which is, oh no, they are literally erasing history. They are trying to rewrite the narrative history. It's 1984, we're all in the book 1984. And like they're not coming around to your house and taking your box set of fucking little Britain DVDs. Although they should because that show fucking sucks. They should but but yeah it is simply a

corporation making the decision to say I think that this society's standards no longer include us keeping this in the lineup, you know? And like, I saw, I saw a writer on Australian Twitter yesterday saying, hey, remember when Mark Mitchell used to brown up his face and pretend to be con the fruiterer in an affront to Greek people and Australians all just laughed at it. And I was like, I feel like the difference is that nobody has laughed at anything the comedy company has done in like 30 years. Absolutely. It's not on anywhere you can't see that shit. No one is demanding it. No one's like, hey I pay pay $10 a month for this streaming service. Where is fucking Condufruder.

Where's Conduferra and Kylie Moll? You know? There's fucking none of that. The point with things like Chris Lilly's show and Little Britain and stuff like that, is that they are on these services right now. And by putting them them them them them them th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th-on, th-on, th-on, th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. than an thin. than. than. than. than. than. than. than. than. toe an toe an thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooan. than. thanthat they are on these services right now. And by putting them on the services, they're saying, hey, we think this is some funny content that you would like to laugh at. All of this blackface and, you know, extremely classist shit as well in Little Britain, all that sort of stuff. Like, just the, hey, you know what's really funny is when people black up and do a silly voice.

It's like you're holding it up right now as this is something that's fine for everyone to have a laugh at. There was also a bit of commentary around this from Brooke Boney, who is a presenter on, I want to say Sunrise or the Today show or one of those pieces of shit. But she is an indigenous woman and she was saying, oh, I think this is all a slippery slope, you know, to like rewriting history and try to take all this stuff away and she was like, you know, I want this stuff to still be around so that I can like show it to my family and say, see how badly treated our people were in....... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi is thi. thi. thi. But thi. thi. But thi. But thi. But thi. thi. thi. thi is is is is th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi. th thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th ththis stuff to still be around so that I can like show it to my family and say see how badly treated people were in the past.

But again, no one's literally erasing all of this stuff from history. Like it's still there. I'm sure that it... Are we proposing a second source of history? So the first source of history is statues and the second source of history is all however many seasons of Chris Lilly's summer heights high on Netflix. Those are now your two sources of history. What I'm proposing is that we introduce a new streaming service that's just all the stuff that is wildly problematic so that if you want to learn about stuff that sucked

you watch that one. Oh, racism channel. Yeah I'm yeah the racism channel is sort of what I'm inventing here. Channel 88. Oh no. I feel like I feel like Australian TV kind of already is the racism channel though. Every channel is the racism channel. That's sort of the problem. Because like you know I don't want to I don't want to get into like correcting an indigenous woman and like the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th I I I I I'm th I'm th I'm th. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm not. I'm thi. I'm not thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thism is thism is thism channel is thi. I'm is thism is thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm not thi. I'm not to get into like correcting an indigenous woman and like I'm not saying she's wrong or anything for however she feels about it. Big pause. But, no, like, I was thinking about this and thinking like, it's so weird because is the idea that like all TV stations and stuff are supposed to keep carrying things indefinitely, despite them not really fitting into like a modern society's idea of what is sort of acceptable or funny anymore?

Yeah, you can at any given moment. Something like Netflix, they have to continually update their licenses, right? To like continually pay for new, for the content that they choose to continually update their licenses, right? To like continually pay for new, for the content that they choose to carry. And I am sure that at any given second of the day you could pop open YouTube or daily motion or whatever the fuck and say I want to see the computer says no sketch and it'll go okay here it is. Which one would you like to see? Which one would you like to see? Which they're 150 and none of them have a Peter says no sketch and it'll go, okay, here it is. Which one would you like to see? Which version?

Yeah. And none of them have a punchline. They're all in glorious 240P. But all those things still exist. It's a matter of what are the things that you are bringing to the forefront of your culture and saying, hey, this is you know where we think it's at and it made me think of like I watched um black clansmen for the first time recently and uh... which is very good very entertaining and as it got towards the end of the movie I'm gonna throw out a big spoiler alert for several years old

movie black clansmen please skip I don't have seen it of course please skip ahead by 30 to 60 seconds if you don't want to hear about the end. But as it gets to the end of the movie, the whole, it's all a period piece from the 70s about this real thing that actually happened of a black cop who started a correspondence with David Duke's clan. And like a lot of it's played for laughs, because it's obviously a concept that is like, even though it's real, is quite farcical at its core.

And a lot of it's played for laughs and everything. And as it gets to the end of the movie, Spike Lee starts to interspers it with these clips of things that are happening right now, like the real David Duke, who is still alive, standing up and giving a speech about how great Donald Trump is and how he represents all of their values. And footage of like all of the tiki torch Nazis chanting Jews will not replace us as they march down the streets.

And like I think that a lot of the reason that Spike Lee's stuff is so affecting is because he often incorporates like real footage and like real old movies from segregation era stuff you know he has this habit of including like real artifacts from history as if to say hey by the way I have a real chip on my shoulder about this stuff because not only was it all extremely real and Extremely a part of American Society's fabric, but it still is it still is right now To the point that like there is even like the movie ends with footage from

Charlottesville where Heather Hire is getting run down and killed, which is, as you might imagine, pretty full-on. But it really, really makes the point. This shit is not only all real, but it is very much still happening. And like, I look at something like that and I say, hey, you're giving us like all the sides of this and saying, here is this stuff in the context of American society. It's not saying, here's fucking Little Britain, here's like the Blackface Comedy Hour, presented completely uncritically, not only uncritically,

but presented as, here is a very funny and entertaining thing. And I just don't think that that is the kind of stuff that you need to be pushing to the forefront of people's entertainment anymore. You're not erasing it, you're not rounding up all the copies of it in the world. It's all 100% still going to be online for whoever the fuck wants to watch it. I'm sure you can buy DVDs online right now if you want to, not secondhand ones. I'm sure you can buy them fresh shit out of the box from wherever you want. They're all still there, but I think that it is fine for businesses to say, you know what, maybe we don't need to be elevating that above other stuff anymore. It's fine. It's not a racing history. I think this conversation

would make sense if like, uh like every piece of media was available all the time from the same streaming service and it was one place. But when it's something like fucking Stan or Netflix or whatever where they have like 50 movies and 50 TV shows, the idea that taking it out now when it's probably going to be taken off in like six months anyway just because things rotate, it's fucking, so weird. It's fucking so weird, it's so strange. It's the the the the th th. It's th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti thi thi thi thi th going to be taken off in like six months anyway just because things rotate. It's fucking so weird it's so strange like yeah I just can't get my head around it. I think a lot of people can't deal with the fact that you know a lot of businesses whether cynically or otherwise are choosing to make statements about this stuff. And you know, in some cases it's obviously

completely opportunistic horseshit, like the taser company. Oh my God, that was insane. Putting out a Black Lives Matter statement. Hey, we believe in tasing all colors equally. Like, obviously some of that is total bullshit. But it's also hard not to look at like the breadth of companies and individuals saying, okay, not only do we need to actually keep pushing this forward, but also acknowledging, you know, some kind of complicitness in this

as a thing. Although, if you want to go all the way in the other direction I had a cringe overdose yesterday when I saw that video of like white celebrities in black and white all saying I have been complicit in white supremacy because like it, you remember the video from a couple of months ago, it seems like it was about 12 years ago of all the celebrities singing Imagine in different keys? I cannot forget it and I don't think I ever will. Oh, one of the most painful things ever. And I saw like somebody post a tweet that was like, hey, where are all the celebrities who were singing, imagine now while all this shit is happening.

And the answer is they were waiting for an opportunity to make it about themselves. They're waiting for a way to say, how is this about me though? How does this affect me? How do I get to morosely stare into the camera and say, hey, this is the very personal effect that's me? th, how? How? How th, how? How th, how th, how th, how th, how th, how th, how th. And th, how th. th. th. th. th. thu. thu. thu. thi. the their, their, their, their, thi. their, their, their, their, they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's, they's, they's, they's they's th. they's th. they's their, their, their, their, their, their, their th that that that that th that th that that that that that their their that their their their, their. they're they're th, this is the very personal effect that's not me. Just incredibly painful shit. And like whether it's disingenuous or image management or whatever it might be, it's just fucking painful to look at. It's very, it's very bad.

And it really seems like people just making it about themselves instead of listening or amplifying any other voices in any way. Anyway, speaking of the racism channel. Speaking of painful shit's on the racism channel, as we said, like it's genuinely hard to tell the difference on Australian TV between which TV show did the most racist thing this week. But some time ago there was a segment on Sunrise in which Samantha Armitage, Radio Personality, Pumix-Ween and some other guy had a little chat about Aboriginal adoption. And I'm doing big scare quotes around that.

But it turns out that this is from SPS. Channel 7 presenter Samantha Armitage and radio personality pre-mix-ween are being sued in the federal court over a controversial sunrise segment concerning child removal in indigenous communities. Led by Aboriginal elder, Auntie Rhonda, eight complainants have now taken their case to courts after they say the settlement negotiations broke down.

In a statement on Thursday, Arte Ronda said, Sunrise Platformed Wealthy, White Women calling for a stolen generation 2.0 as a means of salvation for our young people. This shameful, profoundly hurtful and devastating display of racism was broadcast by a commercial television station into our homes right across Australia. The dignity of all Aboriginal people and children was violated in our very own homes and lounge rooms. The segment in question broadcast on 13th of March 2018 saw the all-white panel including radio host Ben Davis discuss indigenous child protection and who would know better Who would know better then? Prue McSween who previously said that she would like to hit Yasmin Abdelmidmahjid with a car.

Cool lady. Please don't worry about the people who will decry and handring and say this will be another stolen generation, Miss McSween said during the people who will decry and hand-ring and say this will be another stolen generation, Miss McSween said during the broadcast. Oh, okay. Just like the first stolen generation, we're a lot of children that were taken because it was for their well-being. We need to do it again. Holy shit.

Now, I just want to backtrack over this. Don't worry about the people who will say tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho the people who will, tho tho tho tho-----a. tho---a the people the people their their their their their tho tho. tho. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the th. th. th. th. th. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to to. tho. tho. 't worry about the people who will say this will be another stolen generation. Hey, don't worry about it. We need to do it again. I feel like those two sentences don't really go together. No, no, they do because she's saying, don't worry about it. The thing that I'm about to say, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it because it's right that I'm about to say, don't worry about it because it's right. It's like when you say no offense, but. No offense, you're off the hook.

I'm not racist, but, oh boy. Later that year, the Australian Communications and Media Authority found that seven breached the commercial television industry code of practice by including a factual inaccuracy in inciting contempt or ridicule on the basis of someone's race. Seven later agreed to issue a formal apology and pay an undisclosed amount to 15 members of the remote Eucala community in Northern Territory who were featured in file footage during this segment of fucking breaks. Joininging Arthur Ronder in the group complaints is award-winning writer, producer and actress Tricia Morton Thomas. She says, Aboriginal cultures practice responsibility and obligations to our much-love children

and our families. This is the core of our values. We asked to be treated with dignity and humanity as together we try to heal the herd to the past 248 years. So, um, Prumixween, in her infinite wisdom, has decided to say to say to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, toe, to, to, to, to, too, too, too, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab abe, ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab abe, ab ab ab ab ab ab ab abe, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and wisdom, has decided to say on Twitter, my comments on Sunrise, Ari, the Stolen Generation, sorry, I should clarify, this is a statement made post being told she's being sued for this, for racial vilification. My comments on Sunrise, Ari Ari the Stolen Generation, have been resurrected again as previously without any context. I was referring to the

serial abuse of a toddler who was returned to an indigenous community. Those outraged would clearly prefer to turn a blind eye to this. Not me. Hmm. Okay. She seems contrived. Yeah. And as far as I can tell, no one can work out why Prumixween is on TV. No, who is she? What does she do? I don't understand her function. Nobody knows. Very strange woman. And there are more, there are more people in Australia, right? You don't have to put people who have been sued for racial vilification on TV anymore. You just go, well, okay, well that one's soiled. to to the next the next to the next to the next the next the next the next the next the next the next the next the next the next the next to the next the next the next the next the next the the the the the thexxxxxxxxxxxxxuexuexuex. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. th. No. th. No. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. You just go, well that one's soiled. Move on to the next.

I will say this. Um, I just, people like Prumik Swine are in constant danger of making me insanely ageist. Like, just, it's really hard when you're looking at the media and, and like, like, the, and like, the that, like, to the thi, like, and, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, Like, just, it's really hard when you're looking at the media and, and like all political representation in Australia and America and everything. And every person is just this fucking geriatric, rich white fuck just talking the most idiotic shit. like she's 68 years old. Oh God. 68 years old on TV talking about how we need to do another stolen generation.

Why the fuck is she on there? What is happening? Nobody can tell. And as far as I know, this is a process that just happens by itself, by the way, there's no, like we can't inspect it and say maybe we can pick and choose who's on TV. It does sort of feel like that, doesn't it? It's just, it's evolved to the state that it is, that there are 10 people that go on four shows. They all get paid $10 million a year. No one one th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi th is th is th is th is thi thi's tho thi. It's thi's thi's tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's thi. It's the. It's the. It's the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the.they all get paid $10 million a year. No one is in control of it. No one even knows how the cameras don't roll it.

It's really difficult to work out who's a celebrity. So what you do is you look at who is already a celebrity and you put them on TV and you're just totally wrong about it. So it's nice to be safe about it. And put Prumixxween, 68-year-old, someone's th, someone's th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thoom, thoom, thoom's thoom, thi, th, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, totally wrong about it. So it's nice to be safe about it and put Prumik Sween, 68 year old, horrible racist on for some reason. It's like how this. Australian comedy shows. The guys from D-generation or whatever made all the shows in the 90s. So they should also make all of the shows now. Yes. I think, how's this for, for a theory? I feel like Australia has this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this thi thia thi thi thi thi thi the the the thi. A the the thi. A thi. A thi. thi. thi. thi. their. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. th. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi. If, thi. throooooooooooooooo. Wea. Wea. the. theat thr. theat thi. thi. thi. thi. thi.. Yes. I think has this for a theory. I feel like Australia has this inverse kind of way of gauging who to put on TV where like

like we're saying there is no ability to say this person is no longer like culturally relevant in any way this person doesn't have like anything coherent to say about things that are actually happening right now. Clearly, they were relevant to some type of conversation in the past. But generally speaking, once you get like several decades past that point, people will just stop asking you to appear on things. Like I feel like it's much more of a narrative in American entertainment to be like

the has been. Like all the people like John Travolta and shit who are these exceptions because they had like you know 10 years out of the spotlight but then came back whereas in Australia you don't have your 10 years out of the spotlight the spotlight is just on the entire time and like you were saying theo as opposed to saying is this person relevant for us to put on TV it's inverted to this person is relevant to this th this this this this this this this th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thi the the the the the the the thi the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the saying, is this person relevant enough for us to put on TV, it's inverted to, this person is relevant because they are on TV.

And we will continue to put them on TV, and then when we ask who is relevant, we will look and see who's on TV. And it's you, Prumix-Ween, best known for being one of the beauties on a Fox tell revival of daytime panel discussion program, Beauty and the Beast, hosted by Stan Zeminik in 1996. So, I just, yeah, it's very dismaying because, like saying, even people who are, like, even people who are like fairly well regarded, like, degeneration type people, like, you know, you just, you look at like, you look at any of those shows, like the panel shows and stuff that my parents watch on the ABC and that sort of thing, and it's all just like the guys from Working

Dog Entertainment, and they're all just still there. Still there. Working away. Like Santo Chilaro and Rob Sitch. And Tom Glysner. Like just all these dudes who seemingly haven't made anything new in decades other than to be on shows where they talk about stuff. Very, uh, very depressing. So, you know, that's the racism channel. We also have, uh,

the racism newspapers. What's this, uh, editorial you've got in here, Ben, in the old notes? Oh, yeah, so I, uh, slipped this in, uh, while you weren't looking. So this is just, this is something I got published this morning. Uh, this is from the Daily Telegraph I think it was also published in the Herald Sun, and it's from Sky News host Peter Gleason, who I, the only thing I know about him is that the channel is trying really hard to push him as Gleasso. Oh, fuck. But anyway, he wrote a fucking editorial in the Daily Telly under the headline. Where's the Real Justice? And this is the editorial in the Daily Tally, under the headline, Where's the real justice? And this is the lead of the story.

Let's put aside the idiotic decision to march during the height of a pandemic. That is their choice and they will be held accountable. The reality in this country and the US is that the greatest danger to Aboriginals and Negroes is themselves. That is... Negroes is themselves. You know you're just really kind of preparing yourself for some old-fashioned racism when the word Negroes is used. Like I don't how? How is that? How? This country is so fucking insane that more than one set of eyes would have had to have seen this right? I think at this point the Daily Telegraph

still has sub-editors so that's at least one other person. It's also whoever the head of the editorial department is supposedly has to clear this. Although, here is a counter to that, to that point. The last decade or so has seen like huge amounts of cuts to like sub-editors all across the country and so now it's consolidated into like a small group in Sydney for all these different newspapers. And any given newspaper that you do actually pick up and read these days is like riddled with typos in the print and the online forms because you know obviously one person is given about 12 seconds to review an article before

saying it's going to go up online. But we also saw very recently this whole, I'm going to call it a, kerfuffle. This whole kerfuffle with the New York Times printing in their opinion pages, an editorial from Senator Congressman Tom Cotton saying, you know what the military should be out there doing, murdering Americans. It was out there saying that, you know, the military should be out there doing, murdering Americans. It was out there saying that they should be calling out the military and the National Guard, basically turning America into like an occupied militarized zone in which they should be putting down these protesters by any means necessary. Well, Andrew, we bought all these boots with taxpayer funds. What are you? If you're not going to use them to step on people, then what's the point? What's the point? So, you know, the, there was a

lot of fuss about this, including lots of defense from temporary Australian journalist Barry Weiss where she was talking about, you know, how, how, oh, there's a big culture war happening inside the paper where some people think that, you know, you can't put anything in there that runs contrary to like popular belief at the moment, and other people think that putting something in like there is necessary because then you can debate it and everything. There's all this sort of stuff going on until the fuss kept going for like a week or so

and then they were forced to admit that like nobody read the thing before they published it. There was like a lot of hand-ringing defense of, hey, you know, sometimes we have to print things that people don't agree with so that we can air these opinions publicly and have debate around them and everything. And the the the the the the the their their their was their was their was their was like their was like their was like their was like their was like their was like, and their their was like, and their their their their their thoes, thuuse. thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, and then, and then, thusususus. And then, thusususus. And then, thusususus, thususus....... thuuuuuuse.... thuuuse. thuuse. thiuuse. thiuse. thiuse. thiuuse. thiuse. thi, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thusususususus, thusus, these opinions publicly and have debate around them and everything. And then we're like, no, one intern looked at this and then published like a full-page opinion piece in the New York Times. They've gone from the editors saying, you've got to hear both sides to the editors saying, well, I haven't actually heard either side, because I haven't read it. It's probably somebody's job to do that. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. Yeah, thi. thi. thi. thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, the the the the the the the the their, their, their, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. I's th. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the the but I'm not sure who's. I was busy.

But it's very important. I get paid $400,000 a year. Yeah. And he has since resigned. But in this particular case, I wonder if it's the same thing, basically, you know, some harried person given no time to look at this thing. But also it's the Daily Telegraph, the national record of racism. Call it satire. My goodness.

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No. Well, we can't be because the center is the neutral thing. It's not having a bias. It's just letting it pass through you neutrally with no spin on it whatsoever. The objective truth about the universe is if there's two things, yes, the objectively correct thing is's two things, the objectively correct thing is the thing that's in between them. Yes, that's right. You sub-divide them, find the center, and that is what is true.

Letting it pass through you neutrally, like Theo's tasteless nutritional, soilent food substitute. That's right. It's everything the body needs. You still having those? I'll have them at night time. The sometimes the pills they got me on at the moment really ratchet up my appetite. So that's actually it's been good. Drinking that at night, putting on some weight. Superb and then I lost it all by ending up in hospital. Shitting out everything in your body. Congratulations. Huh. So anyway, this is from the Sydney Morning Herald. Silent majority or fringe dwellers,

a search for the sensible center. Now, this is a thing that seems to crop up quite regularly in Australian politics. Remember when the sex party transitioned into the reason party? And they were like, we're smart. We're smart because we think that sex is fine and normal. And also we can't be called the sex party anymore. So from this piece it says, trust in government is a record low, support for minority parties, is it record high as fewer people want to join the two major political parties and technology is disrupting

everything and also there is a pandemic on. Kind of forgot about that one from their ostensibly it's the perfect time to shake up Australian politics, which is exactly what Verne Hughes and Angela Vitulcus are trying to do. They're calling their movement the sensible center and they sincerely hope it's our next big thing. Thank you for putting sensible in the name. Now when you show people your little badge that says you remember you can say well my one says we're the sensible party and yours doesn't say that so who's winning? The pitch is simple elections are one in the political center. Most voters don't see themselves as especially left or right. They just want their government to run smoothly, their politicians to be up front and honest,

and the vested interest to be left at the door. Hughes is a 62-year-old former historian from Melbourne with a long and colorful history of dabbling in dark corners of Australian politics. What's the fuck does that mean? Oh yeah racism. Yep, you're absolutely right. It is a little sinister isn't it? Vitulchus is a 56 year old business owner and city of Sydney councillor. Their vision is certainly ambitious, claiming to represent the 80% of us in the sensible center of Australian life, they want to run candidates in all 151 lower house seats of the 2022 federal election and while I might sound trite they want to change Australian politics

It's basically stuffed says Hughes. This is Dave Hughes they're switching right It's polarized Looked at the political parties. No, thank you Happy birthday. Oh, good. Oh, good. It doesn't reform things, it doesn't change things. It's short-termist. It always tinkers around with solutions that help governments win the next election but fails to address anything else. The question is what can we do about that? Now look, it's a pretty fair, pretty fair statement. Very polarized, not changing anything.

Short-termist. They're only, the two major parties generally are only interested in helping themselves win power in the next election and that's about it. I think that's fine, it's a reasonable. I would sincerely love to hear though their description of where the Labor Party falls. Is the Labor Party not already doing this? I just... I just... and I want to just.... the... to... to... to... to... to... to... to... to... to... to... to... to... to... to... to... to... to... to... to... to... to... to... to... to... to... to... to... to... to... to... the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to... to... to... to... to... to... to... to... to... to... to... to... to... their their their their their... thea... thea... thea... thea... their... their... their... their their their their their their their. Is the Labour Party not already doing this? I just... And I want to just row back a touch to say that you know elections are one in the political center. I want to drag the boat back down the hill for a second. When did we... When did we last see that? Like honestly, it's astonishing. Anyway, I'm... I just... I'm just... I'm just... I just... I'm just a thi. I just. I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I want... I want... I want... I want... I want... I want... I want... I want... I want... I want... I want... I want... I want... I want... I want... I want... I want... I want... I want, I want, I want to just... I want to just... I want to just... I want to just... I want to just... I want to just... I want to just... I want to just... I want to just... I want to just... I want to just... I want to... I want the hill for a second. When did we? When did we last see that?

Like, honestly, it's astonishing. Anyway, I don't. Well, we've been leveling the same criticism about the Labor Party for several years now, which is, this is what they're trying to do. They've been trying to eke out the sensible center for the last 10 years. Like, it's, anyway, I've they they they they they they they they they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've. They've they've. They're. T, they've they've th. T. T. they've th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they're. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've theeee thea. the thea. the. the. the. the. th. to eke out the sensible center for the last 10 years. Like, it's, anyway, I've spent, they've spent all their time saying we're going to just shave off anyone further left than say. Like anyone who would vote for the Greens is too far left and also it's the Greens for poaching their voters that they're entitled to. Yes. But obviously, you know, any policies that are far left and also it's the Greens fault for poaching their voters that they're entitled to.

But obviously, you know, any policies that are far left enough, they're just like, no, no, that's going to alienate us from these people who are like only just have one foot in the liberal party. But it leads to the same thing every time, which is by trying to say we're going to occupy this amorphous blob in the middle and make everybody happy. Instead we just piss everybody off by seeming fairly non-committal. Like it makes you seem like exactly what you are, a party with no actual principles. You were just trying to occupy this kind of range in the middle free from any form of ideology. And it doesn't fucking work. It's not that they're rudderless, Andrew, it's just that their rudder is exactly in the

center. They cannot steer. So for decades, centrist third parties have attempted to answer the question, what can we do about that? The most well-known example was the Australian Democrats, which Hughes joined twice during its heyday. He also had a brief dalliance with the Democratic Labor Party and in the 2000s tried to start a populist movement called People Power with shareholder activists Stephen Maine. Shareholder activist.

Shareholder activists. People might remember this guy mainly Stephen Maid from the time he had an enormous meltdown when the age went on strike due to staff cuts they were having, these mass firings, and then he published an op-ed with them on the day the strike was happening. He got called a scab by approximately 5,000 people, doubled down on it for a very long time and then eventually said, whoops, that was bad of me, I'm gonna donate the fee I got paid for writing it to some sort of charity. So mixed. Clive Palmer's $60 million effort at the last election shared many hallmarks of centrist populism though he cut a deal with the coalition and essentially campaigned against

the labor opposition. I ask the talkers how the sensible centre differs from Palmer's offering. Quote, besides that I'm thinner and prettier, ha ha ha ha, she jokes. He treated people and politics like a business plan and forgot there were people in play, and he had its own personal agenda. Morris, we have no agenda. No sex, no agenda. Hughes says that Palmer's party was a one-mannany project. By contrast, they are trying party was a one man-mannany project. By contrast they are

trying to create a grassroots movement, but the sensible center has been slow to get off the ground and its status is not entirely clear. He says that it has about a thousand members and participants. The talker says it's a few thousand and then later says it's two thousand. The joining as you can see the answer lies exactly in the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the th. th. th. th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's the is is the is the is the. theole. the. I the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. I is the. I is is is is is is is is is is is is is is the. I is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is. I is is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is the. It is. It is. It is the. It is the. It is the. It's is. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's t. It's. It's t. It's lies exactly in the middle. They have exactly 1,500 members. The joining fee is $25.00. They have not yet registered as a political party, but will have to do if they want to contest elections. Plans to run candidates at Queensland's council polls in March did not come to fruition,

but a state elections in October. What the sensible center does have to show for itself at present is a Schmick website including a policy charter that stretches the definition of Centrism on immigration it says our annual intake is quote unsustainably high Multiculturalism is cumbersome and inorganic. Ooh so we just diving right in right there and refugees should be given temporary asylum rather than permanent homes. It also calls for, quote, ethnic enclaves in our cities and schools to be broken up. What the fuck? This makes me think of like every time that there is any kind of party like this, sensible centrismism,

or anything about like that, um population growth or anything about like population growth or sustainability or anything like that. Sustainable Australia the fucking Dick Smith shit. It's well it's always this like incredibly thin veneer over something that's going to wind up being this like horrible xenophobic shit like um you guys remember well there you go, it was only last year. So I remembered this thing from Cameron Wilson, who was from BuzzFeed before they got closed down. And he was at the launch of a discussion paper by Sustainable Population Australia, a group

that advocates for a significant decrease in net immigration. And that had Bob Carr at it on the panel as like one of the speakers, had Bindy Irwin as the youth ambassador. And like, he's sitting there like tweeting this thing as it goes along. And just, as it gets along, it just goes down and down to like, he said, you know, this guy, um, Leith Van Onsulin, this paper's author, says, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the speakers, the speakers, the speakers, the speakers, the speakers, the speakers, the speakers, the speakers, the speakers, the speakers, the speakers, the speakers, the speakers, the speakers, the speakers, the speakers, the speakers, the speakers, the speakers, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the speakers, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi's thi's thi-a, thi' thi' their their thee, their, their, their, their, their, the down to like he said that you know this guy Leith Van Onsulin this paper's author says that Australia's population growth is the fastest quote in the Anglosphere. They're like immediately like verges into.

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didn't come here because there were free handouts and they could just do nothing. Interesting. Is that what today's migrants do? She has asked. The challenge with immigration in this country is if you talk about immigration, you're either a racist or you're not. It's one or the other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other the other other the other the other the other the other. We we oe we the other. We we the other. We we want we want we want we want we want we want to to occupy. We want to occupy. We want to occupy. We'll to occupy we want to occupy to occupy. We'll to to occupy to occupy to to to to to to you're either a racist or you're not. It's one or the other. We want to occupy the space right in the middle. We're half racist.

Because that extremism has appeared, we haven't had a proper conversation. Across 15 policy areas, the sensible Senators Charter also speaks of removing, quote, passive welfare for indigenous Australians and developing a quote, self-help culture, upholding the natural authority of families. And this is the funniest to me to tack on to this, capping private school fees at $20,000 a year. I love the like, we need need we need less brown people in this country we need cheaper private schools. It's weird it's pretty easy to see the

kind of person that this sort of thing appeals to hey yes very specific weirdo my goodness recently the movement is focused on criticizing Australia's response to the pandemic accusing politicians oficking, shutting now society and putting the economy in a coma. Its website urges visitors to sign a petition to quote, stop the corona madness, which claims that Australia was protected from the virus by its geography, low population density, and suburban backyards. Yeah, and you can tell that by the way that the coronavirus outbreak had a massive peak and then we started to close down and that all went away. Yeah, it's coincidence. It was going away anyway because of the backyards.

Because of the... I went outside and coughed, couldn't make it over the fence. I'd stand exactly in the center of my backyard to get all my sneezes out. Sensable center and then I go back back the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi tho tho tho thi thi thi tho tho the tho the the tho the the the the the the the tho the the the the tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thoes tho thoes tho tho tho tho the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th center of my backyard to get all my sneezes out. Sensible center. And then I go back among the people. Just terrible. Just terrible stuff. And it's such a bummer that like this is the kind of political alternative that is being proposed, which is Labour's platform. What if racist but nicer? What if racist but more friendly?

And then they're proposing what if slightly less nice and slightly more racist?. people people people people people people people people people people people.. to people people people people people people people. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the people people to the people to the people to thi people thi people. thi people. thi people people people people people people. to to to to thi people. to the people. the people. the people. the people. the people. the people. the people. the people. the people. the people. the people. the people. the people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people. to people. to to to to to to to to to to to to the people. to to their people. to to to to're proposing what if slightly less nice and slightly more racist to get it closer to the centre. Yes. Right in the middle where everybody wants it. Just none of this is going to appeal to anybody. Absolutely ridiculous. Makes me want to take a big long walk directly out into nature. Nature Corner, Robbocka snipped my dick. It's right folks, it's Nature Corner and your dick has been snipped. That's how we'd introduce it if we were mulling radio. You listen to Nature Corner. It's the dickip that doesn't stop snipping. That's right. Oh boy, what do you got for us this week, Ben? I got a little story from the ABC Sunshine Coast. It's the Australian ABC, the first, the original. Mysterious Sounds and Lights in Lake Wa, Bushland have some residents spooked.

I hate to be spooked. Well, these people are being spooked, Andrew. While it may appear to be a paranormal phenomenon ripped straight from the X-Files, one expert says there is an explanation for the, quote, humming noises and flickering lights, apparently haunting some Sunshine Coast residents. Talk of spooky experiences in the Lake Weber area have sparked supernatural debate on social media after Walker asked if anyone else had noticed anything quote strange at the Perigian end of Nusa National Park. I was walking there today and heard a weird

humming sound like a human humming a tune. Kerr Eben. I'm not sure about that name. It could be anything different to how I pronounced it, said in a Facebook post. It followed me for 30 minutes. It sounded like it was getting closer to before I left the fire track. Former Lake Waiver resident Sarah Jane Stockton said she had also experienced strange things when she and her partner lived in her there a bit in the bush. We always had a feeling like we shouldn't be in there, a little bit of a spooky feeling, she said. You would hear strange noises through the bush like someone was walking parallel to you, but

there wasn't anyone. Mrs. Stockton said the strangest experience was really strange light appeared probably about three meters high and was darting across the front of the bushland she said. At first we thought is it a torch but the way that it moved was way too strange to be somebody with a torch. We watched it for probably for about 30 minutes and then it disappeared. It was gone. Tim Bull, widely known as Tim the Yowie man is the Australian National Museum's resident Crypton Naturalist, a term he invented, meeting someone who studies rare strange and hidden phenomena in the natural world. That's the best intro to someone in like a story is being like here's their name, here is their job

title, by the way they made that term up. It's so good and that he's got a job that's great. I mean it sounds amazing the the tha tha the tha the tha tha tha thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's thi thi. He's t. He's t. t. t. t. t. tean. tean. tean. tean. tean. tean. tean. teeeeean. teeean. te. te's got a job. That's great. I mean it sounds amazing but he also sounds like a fucking wet blanket. He said the lights may have come from houses or vehicles. Shut up Tim. Unexplayed lights occasionally spot in the Australian outback are known as Min Min Min Min Min lights named after the remote Queensland town. Min Min Min lights are best described as strange balls of light seen bouncing around coming and going, usually white but sometimes other colors, he said. But no matter how close you get to the light, you try to chase it and reach it, it always seems to be too far away. Tim said Min-Men light sightings were often just examples of light to the light.

Light is bent around the curve of the globe. the light is bent around the curve of the light hits a layer of cold air, it contracts that light and it can push it around the curve of the globe. He said the humming noise... It sounds like he's just making this up to the little bullshit. He said the humming noise may be coming from the ocean. Really grasping at straws here, Tim. There is a phenomenon that scientists can't explain in various spots all around the world, like a human humming or someone off in the distance, he said. The constant action of waves, even a couple of kilometers away, can cause low frequency earth tremor. A Queensland National Parks and Wildlife spokesperson said, Rangers who frequently visited like Weber had not heard or seen anything unusual there.

Sounds like a cover up. Of course they'd say that. Oh, Pete Ocean. Come on. I know, that's bullshit. The lights are UFOs. It's that easy. It's a a a th. It's a th. It's a double. It's a double. It's a double. It's a double. It's a double. It's a double. It's a double. It's a double. It's a double. It's a double. It's a double. It's a double. It's a double. It's a th. It's a th. It's a thi. It's a th. It's a th. It's. It's. It's. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's a th. It's a th. It's a th. It's a th. It's a th. It's a thi. It's a thi. It's a thi. It's a thea. thea. theateat. theat. theat. theat. theat. theat. theat. theat. the theat. thea. thea. that's bullshit. The lights are UFOs. The humming is a ghost. It's that easy. It's a double ghost in UFO scenario. Easy. I went to a spot in Texas that's meant to have a Min Min Min Lights type phenomenon, the Marfa Lights, and there's this like a spot off the interstate where they've set up benches and everything for people to see it, which is quite cool. I did not see them the night that I went.

And it was also just deeply strange, because of the nature of these things, there are no lights at the stop so that you know you're sitting in darkness and everyone's sort of sitting in this like hushed reverent silence. So I just like got out of my car, walked over, there's like maybe 20 people, but also it's really hard to tell because it's pitch black so I can sort of see there are benches that I'll go to sit on one and then I'm like, oh no there's a person there. And sat there for half an, went to a hotel, left half my clothes there and left. Scary, scariest thing he's ever seen. It was very spooky.

Tim the Yowie man is going to be along any second now. Imagine if you're a man in black, right? And they're like, well, we've got to put you on assignment. You're going to become Tim the Yowie Man. Going to need you to get a Yowy Man costume, make up a job title, and just basically say it's all false. We're going to give you $100,000 a year of dark UFO money. Oh my God, please Google Tim the Yow the Yow Man and look at the images that come up. What? What is going on with this gentleman's hat? the Yowowowowowowowowowowowow- tho man man man man man man man thoooooo th. So so so so so so so th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi th. thi, so, so, so, so, so, thi, so, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. thi, th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. toge. thi. toge. toge. toge hat? Tim the Yowie man.

Hang on, so if you, all right, so if you're gonna look... He stole a hat from a witch. Like this, like this man who is just, um, wandered out of the Australian version of bloodborne. And... version of Bloodborne. An angry disease to say... Trying to kill you. You have to at least say all of the stuff is true. What is the point of dressing like this and they'd say, nah, it's just weird light. After a three-minute theme song to his TV show of Tim the Yawie Man with crazy

guitar riffs going off, it just stops and he says, Yow he's not real. Well, I mean, he is Canberra-based, the city in which I live, and according to Yowi Man.com. That are you. He does conduct a weird Cambera ghost and history tour. He says, this is the history they don't put in the guidebooks. This is a tour that shines a spotlight onto the hidden underbelly of the nation's capital. The unique three-hour experience visiting sites of crimes, hauntings and murder in Australia's national capital.

Visit the darker side of Cambrus bars. He offers conference services? Let me read this out for you. Tim is a self-styled camera file. That's a pedophile. That's a camera. Oh, sorry, no, he defines someone obsessed with everything to do with our national capital. Oh, okay.

Although he's studying economics and law at the A&U, his career took a U-turn when he spotted an unidentified large, black, hairy, ape-like creature in the snowy mountains in 1994. He has since dedicated his life to get to the bottom of mysterious phenomena, everything from Loch Ness Monsters, vanishing lakes to dot, dot, dot, uncovering the real Camber and surrounds. Spooky. It's weird that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he's that he's that he's weird that he's that he's that he's that he's that he's th. th. th. th-ock-ock-ock-ock-like-like-like-like-like-ock, th. th. th. th-nigh. th-nigh. th-nigh. th-nigh. th-nigh. th-nay, th-nay, th-nay, th-nay, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th-a-a-a-a-a-n'-a-nigh. th-a-s. th-a-s. th-a-s. th-s. th-a-s. tha-s. tha-s. tha-s. tha-s. tha-s. th-s. and surrounds. Spooky. It's weird that he looks so funny because I'm trying to imagine somebody obsessed with Camberra and all I can picture in my mind's eye is a perfect grey square. I just love it here. Yep, just a featureless cube.

Tim the Yowayman offers a number of unique services for corporate conferences and events held in Canberra. Tim can arrange a custom-designed day trip for delegates or partners to a range of attractions from winery to it's to secrets of national institutions to even visiting locations of espionage, espionage in Cambronage. He can tailor an itinerary just for you and all delivered in an informative, interactive and fun way. Tim is also a sought-after after did a speaker at conference events. Is he? No conference too big or too small. He specializes in providing an entertaining insight into quirky life in and around camera. I would kind of love to see him at a conference that was too big.

There's 50,000 people here. I'm not equipped for this. Oh, gets him on the old TED talk, so I got, you know. He's got a testimonial section on his website and there are there are there are there are their there are their their their their their their are their are their are their are th. There are th. th. th. Is th. Is th. Is th. Is th. Is thi. Is thi. Is thi. Is thi. Is thi. Is thi. Is too. Is too. Is too. Is too. Is too. Is too. Is too. Is too. Is too. Is too. Is too. Is thi. Is thi. Is thi. for this. Get him on the old TED Talk, so I got, you know. He's got a testimonial section on his website, and there are two testimonials. First one is from Mark Bryce, the Queensland Treasury Corporation. At the best tour guard I've ever had the pleasure of meeting, there is no one who knows Camber like Tim the Yawie man. Some know the political history better, but for stories about the the the real, the the the the the thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and thia, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi's thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, tomoom-a, tom-a, Tim is your man, and then there's a second one from the Camber Times. No one knows Camberra like Tim the Yawi man. Wonderful, wonderful. It's literally him just taking you around to the War Memorial Old Parliament House, all very brightly lit and saying, there used to be a ghost here. I don't believe that an Australian Prime Minister haunts a popular camera hotel. But maybe I should go on the tour. Maybe you should.

Sorry. It's the most camera thing ever. Hold on. The tour departs promptly at 8 p.m. from the 7.11 petrol station in Braden. Awesome. Itself a highly spooktacular location. Oh I went to get a blueberry slurpy but it was actually lemon flavored. Oh, $99 a head. Worth every penny. This is an official endorsement of Tim the Yowey man and his tour and conference services. Wonderful. I did click on the link that says, see the calendar of experiences for dates and booking details. Page not found.

Well, he's probably, you know. That's true, he's probably out to a bloody shut it all down due to the pandemic. He doesn't want to be introducing any more ghosts to the already very spooky camera. Well, I think that's it for us, folks. Thank you for stopping by listening to the show. I think we've stopped Theo's bleeding. Well, that's good. Well, I have run out of th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thu show. I think we've stopped Theo's bleeding. Well that's good. Well I have run out of blood so in a way you're right. There's some sort of strange green liquid coming out of it but I mean... feverishly chugging Soilent in an attempt to replace his vital fluids. I've got to get my fluids. You need those precious fluids. Thanks to joining folks if you would like to support the show you can't to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the th. th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theooooooe. toe. fluids. You need those precious fluids.

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