Boonta Vista - EPISODE 155: You Don't Have To ARHGAP11B Crazy To Work Here

Episode Date: June 28, 2020

Andrew, Theo, and Ben fend off space madness on the ISS to talk about scientists giving monkeys human brains, monkeys with regular brains terrorising towns, discount airplane food, and the pointlessness of fact-checking Trump. *** Support our show and get exclusive bonus episodes by subscribing on Patreon: www.patreon.com/BoontaVista *** Email the show at [e-mail]! Call in and leave us a question or a message on 1800-317-515 to be answered on the show! *** Twitter: twitter.com/boontavista Website: boontavista.com Merchandise: boontavista.com/merchandise Twitch: twitch.tv/boontavista

Hello and welcome to Budavista episode 155. I am Ben and I am here on the International Space Station doing a live stream where I pour some water into a tube or some shit. Making this incredibly difficult as Andrew, who is floating between me and the camera chasing a 1960s Playboy magazine that he smuggled aboard, but has temporarily lost control of. Hello, Andrew. Hello. My mother said before I got on the shuttle that I should maybe like, a hole punch the corner of it, run a bit of string.

You know, like, you don't want to lose your mittens. Just like tether it to your spacesuit. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, to, th, th, th, th, th, th, the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi thi thi. And, thi. And, thi, thi, thr, throwneea, throwne an throwne, throwne, throwne, throwne, thr-s, throwne, throwne, thrown, the, and, and, like, you don't want to lose your mittens. Just like tether it to your space suit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but of course, I had to take it a task because who's gonna use a whole punch on a mint 1960s playboy? I mean, arguably, why would you take that with you into space as well? You want me, you want me going to go stuff? You want me smelling your underpants while I go to town and myself? No, you're absolutely right. I'm very good doing other people.

Thank you so much for bringing that up here. I hope you get that back in your hands sooner rather than later. Well, it's not happening any time soon I'll tell you that. But we're not alone up here, down the hallway from us, addled with space-a, to space with space with space with space with space with space with space with space with space with space with space with space with space with space with space with space with space with space with space, and space with space with space with space, and space with space with space, and space, and space with space, and space with space with space with space, and surreptitiously trying to drill a hole in one of the station's Sawyer's modules so that we're all forced to return to Earth. It's Theo. Hey, how you guys going? I, what, how are you going? No, I'm doing well. Are you? No, I mean, okay, I know you guys are kind of looking at me a little bit weird. Yeah, well, we're looking at you probably normal for the way that you look currently. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I. I. I. I. I. I. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to, to, to, to, the the to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the th. the th. th. th. the th. th. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. th. th you probably normal for the way that you look currently. Okay, well I'm hearing it, but I'm also hearing whatever's on the other side of this hull. Certainly it raises a lot of good points about us being on the inside, the absolute majesty of space being on the outside, and only a little thin wall separating us. Yeah. I'm just saying, uh, theymeat th-it, but I'm just saying. I'm th, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th th th th, thi thi thi's th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th th th, th, th, th, I th, th, th th, th, th th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th-a's th-a's th-a, thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's a thi's a thi's a thi's a thi's a thi's a thi's a thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's the absolute majesty of space being on the outside, and only a little thin wall separating us.

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See what I like about being inside the International Space Station is the proper regulation of my body temperature, the supply of oxygen. I love those things. And you sort of seem to be leaning towards going to a place where we won't really have either of those. No, but you won't need them, is what I'm being told. So you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you sort th th th th th th th th thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th th thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to to to to to thi, to to thi, to to thii, but you won't need them. Okay. Is what I'm being told. Could you, so you sort of been called to in a sort of a siren song fashion.

Would you say this is coming from any particular direction in the direction of, say, any particular celestial body, say a moon orbiting one particular planet? I mean, it's impossible to say. Would you say it's maybe coming from a sort of a Titan-esque vector? I've been hearing this war and war. Well, I know. You did some sort of quick calculations, back of a napkin-type deal? What do you reckon?

How do you reckon that would bear out? I really feel like Titan and I may be giving away the game here is sort of all around us. More in that specific direction, you know 281 North and all the rest, and I'm not really quite sure how latitude and longitude work in space. Space is a flat plane as far as head's. So you need one number for a direction that's quite good actually. I mean, I've always been taught that you don't know whether or not you'll like something

until you try it. Try it twice, I say. You know? And like, I think that, frankly, your attachment to a regulated body temperature, having any concept of which ways up, which ways down, you are holding onto that like a baby with its security blanket. Right, and your sort of suggestion for my own personal growth

to surrender this security blanket that's holding me back, is to eject myself into the cruel and punishing void of space. Well, are you getting any closer to Titan stuck in here? You know, just, where we, you know, last couple of months on the International Space Station where we've been, Theo, definitely space madness. You just were kind of haughty all the time. I didn't realize you were going through a similar sort of... It's a symptom. It's more of a symptom. And to be honest, I have just thi tho just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, tho tho tho thi, thi thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to thioooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. to thi. thi. th more of a symptom and to be honest I have just felt really gratified that Theo's more obvious space madness has really

been taking the attention off mine. Yeah I forgot about the guy in Tolaris is just jacking off all the time. Oh no, no. Like we all hear the siren song we're just not all making a big deal out of it. Yeah well I, I mean in the training, there's a lot of criticism on being on the outside. They sort of, a lot of dispersions cast. I would just say for those people that have not enjoyed it on the outside, it's the problem is they just did it by themselves. You gotta bring a friend two buddies. Two buddies. bring a friend too if you can yeah and I can only think of my two best friends

Titan calls for friends you know I mean I certainly know that's what I'm trying to tell you guys I've started listening to the the NASA's Johnson's Space Center I don't know if that's what it's called I think if you arrange those words in some order that is the name of it. But they're podcast. Houston we have a podcast. Which is... You were so mad when you heard that way. I hate that name so much. But it's been slightly redeemed for me because the theme song to the podcast is an absolute fucking banger. Like it just goes off. It accelerates as a relatively mild, calm piece of music and within five seconds it's just wall of sound shit going on. So it's sort of been brought back to me, but it's weird listening to a podcast where every

single person that speaks on the podcast is a genius. Like they are someone who is, they excel in thetheir field they're like the best of the best They know I don't hear that but I don't listen to our podcast myself I'm just Just recorded they like these are all people that are just like crazy our subject matter experts that like anyone of them will mention any other thing and the other person will be well across it but they are also most of them don't have any social skills well across it, but they are also, most of them don't have any social skills. It's an amazing combination of just like being very impressed by these people, but then listening to them try and wade their way through, like not quite understanding each other

for quite a while. So, it's interesting. See, you're listening to stuff that makes you smart and no more, whereas I've just be to listen to the seminal spiritualized album album al al al tha album, ladies, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, the, the, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, and th, and th, and th, and thi, and thi, and thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, throooan, throan, theaaauiiiiiiiiiii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiinal spiritualized album, ladies and gentlemen we are floating in space over and over again. It's a good one. It's a really good album. I'm a, with all this space mannors talk and the obvious signs of spaceman is that at least two of the three members of this mission are exhibiting, I'm a little concerned that it has been taking a lot of our attention of the monkey that is also on the International Space Station.

Oh, Copernicus. Yeah. He's wearing glasses. He's holding... And they won't let us do that, which is really weird. No. He's got his glasses on. Well, I mean, you try and take it off him. Oh, he's reading more and more books on his Kindle. He will not share it with me. And that's why he's not getting to look at my playboy. You notice that he is jacking off constantly. Have you guys noticed that he keeps opening these sort of manila folders that have a clearance level on them higher than we have? I definitely saw Theo's picture in one of them. That's all I'm saying.

He immediately snapped it closed and growled at me. I thought I saw that as well, but it had like just a big red cross over the front. It was very strange. Fail. So I don't know, I'm kind of concerned. He is starting to look at this very suspiciously. He keeps going back to the part of the spaceship that we do not have access to. I think it might be something to do with the tests that we've been doing on monkeys. It's been written about in the Max Planck Society for the Advancement of Science. I don't believe that's real. It's real. Which part? Max Planck?

Max Planck, pretty funny name. There's a whole society about one guy called Max Plan. You have just made Theo so mad and you have no idea. It's fine. Oh, but I'm reading here a headline that I believe upset all of us when we saw it. It's not a good start. It's a really, really bad start to any article. Do you think that this fits into the one thing we didn't want to happen category of story? Do we have a combo of the Nature Corner and the one thing we did want to happen the theme Do we have a combo of the Nature Corner and the One Thing We Did What Happen Themes the the theme tho? No, we don't.

Imagine if we did. Oh, we might have to put our best, Theo, if you want to work on that, that'd be really great. Okay, well, we'll get ready to roll that one out in 2024. Why don't you just leave just just leave you the gap the gap the gap the headline that we do want you to know This is the one thing we didn't want to happen. Very upsetting headline human brain size gene triggers bigger brain in monkey fetus. This is big swollen brain except they could climb trees. Is anybody ever seen the... Has anybody ever seen the plot of Deep Blue Sea except they can climb trees.

Has anybody ever seen the, um, has anybody ever seen the notorious bomb adaptation of Green Lantern starring Ryan Reynolds as the Green Lantern? Oh, you mean the one directed by Michelle Gondry? Was it? Oh wait, no, sorry, he did Green Hornet. No, please strike that from the record. It's got Tyco Waiti in it though, as a, like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, the, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, is, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, the, the, the, the, the, is, is, the, is, the, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is the the the the the the the, the, et. No, please, strike that from the record. It's got Tyco Waititi in it though, as a like, the sort of comedic off-sider. Well, what's weird is they get Taicawaiti to play Richard A.Otie in the IT crowd.

They get him to just be Moss. Did they make him American as well? Do I make them? I don't know. They give him the glasses and everything. Because, what's his name, Peter Sarzgard, I want to say, is one of the bad guys in that. Parallax, or is the scientist that gets turned into Paralax, or is possessed by Paralax? He is a scientist who is like, at some point during the movie, I think they just kind of gave up on this as they went along but he he starts to get a giant brain. Oh yeah and it's very funny he gets he gets zapped with something and then he just starts growing a great big super brain and it's one of those ones that kind of works on paper in a comic but once you give a guy a really large brain in a live

action thing, it's not. No, he looks like an idiot. It's very bad guy, it's very goofy and it's never going to pay off for you. It doesn't work at all. I don't know what the name of the character would have been, is bad guy character? Dr. Greg Parallax. It's absolutely something like Brainiac or some comic book shit. Oh boy, and that's what this monkey's starting to look like on the spaceship.

Big swollen noggin. Yep. Yep. As soon as I was leading into the story. I thought you were going to start reading the article there and then... Anybody... I did actually give a warning before we started on the show that my brain is not firing on all cylinders at the moment. Um, due to something that happened to it last night, uh, didn't really have much to do with me. No, those picklebacks just flew into your mouth of their own accord. It was so delicious. You tripped and fell onto a pickleback multiple times. Well, Andrew's brain's not firing on all cylinders unlike this monkey brain where they added

more cylinders. Isn't that right, Ben? This monkey fetus is brink. Wow, the old Baden switch. All right let me read from this very heavily cropped down press release from the Max Planck Society for the Advancement of Science. I spent... Yes, it begins... Whoops. It just starts with lull exclamation. It's just a paste bin apology. Mistakes were made. For some reason this press release is a screenshot of the notes app on an iPod. It's a very long, long, not very sincere apology.

Here we go. The expansion of the human brain during evolution, specifically of the neocortex is linked to our cognitive abilities such as reasoning and language. A certain gene called A-H-H-G-A-P-11B or R-Classic, R-Classic gap that is only found in humans triggers brain stem cells to form more stem cells a prerequisite for a bigger brain. Past studies have shown that A-R-H-G-A-P11B, when expressed in mice and ferrets to unphysiologically high levels, causes an expanded neocortex. Honestly, giving ferrets the bigger brain sounds worse to me than doing it to monkeys.

Just imagine them trying to get into one of their little ferret tubes and just getting their brain stuck. Please know, the one thing that brings me joy. Bring the ferret tube grease. But its relevance for primate evolution has been unclear. Researchers show now that this human-specific gene, when expressed to physiological levels, causes an enlarged neocortex in the common manner set, a new-world monkey. The human neocortex, the evolutionarily youngest part of the cerebral cortex, is about three times bigger than that of our closest

relatives, the chimpanzees, and its folding into wrinkles increases during evolution to fit inside the restriction space of the skull. A question for scientists is how the human neocortex became so big. In a 2015 study, the research group of Violent Hutner, a founding director of the MPICBG, found that under the influence of the human-specific gene ARHGAP11B, mouse embryos produced many more neural progenitor cells and could even undergo folding of their normally unfolded neocortex. This unsmoves mice brains. Hey, I folded that up carefully. I'm just imagining the mice just like deep in thought and then suddenly you hear a

noise. Oh, this is so incredible. The results suggested that the gene A-H-G-A-P-11B plays a key role in the evolutionary expansion of the human neocortex. However, it has been unclear until now if the human-specific gene, Jesus Christ, A-R-H-G-A-P-11B, what also caused an enlarge neocortex in non-human primates. So we gave it a go. So we just injected it into some fucking monkeys. To investigate this, the researchers in the group of Violent Hutner teamed up with Erica Susky

at the Central Institute for Experimental Animals in Kawasaki and Hideyuki Okano at Khao University in Tokyo, both located in Japan, who had pioneered the development of a technology to generate transgenic non-human primates, which I believe just means putting human genes into monkeys, which is... What could go wrong? Terrifying. The first author of the study, postdoc Michael Hyde, traveled to Japan to work with the colleagues directly on site. They generated transgenic common marmasets, a new-world monkey that expressed the human-specific gene, ARHGAP 11B, which they, which they, which they, which they they they they they they they th, they th, th, th, th, th, they th, th, they they th, th, they th, th, they th, they they th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the the th, th, the the the th, th, thi, thi-n, the-n, theanananananananneeanneuuiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii-nateea, the, the, th monkey, that expressed the human-specific gene, A-R-H-G-A-P-11B, which they normally do not have in the developing neocortex. Michael Hyde explains, We found indeed that the neocortex of the common marmosep proenet brain was enlarged

and the brain surface folded. Furthermore, we could see increased numbers of basal, radial gleeo progenitors in the outer subventricular zone and increased numbers of upper layer neurons, the neuron type that increases in primate evolution. They have sped up monkey evolution with some sort of super serum? Oh God, sorry, this last paragraph is the part where it gets terrified for me. Violent Hutna who led the study as we can find our analyses to Marmseat fetuses because we anticipated the expression of this human-specific gene would affect the neocortex development in the Marmeset.

In light of potential unforeseeable consequences with regard to postnatal brain function, we considered it a prerequisite and mandatory from an ethical point of view to first to determine the effects of ARHGAP 11B on the development of fetal marmoset neocortex. So this is the first step. Before slapping the face of God, we felt it best. To tickle the face of God and see how we reacted. So they're doing it on fetuses first, which implies that they planned on just being like, okay, let's tailor some marmoset-sized clothing because who knows what they're going to turn into.

You've got to walk before you're on. Oh, it's so true. Start making our tiny monkey-sized monocles now. And then you need extras too, because when you inform them what has happened to them, they'll be so shocked that they will break their first monocle. My God, this is, scientists need to be stopped. Just sort of generally. No more of this. If this is what they're doing. Are you thinking that we should get together in form like a Max Planck Society for just reeling science back in? The Max Black Institute for the not advancement of science?

Yeah. The halting of science, yes. I just saw this headline and I was, it's one of those things where like every week I'll sort of have a look at vaguely nature-themed journal article headlines and every single time they've always sort of oversold it, you know, it's like a really dramatic headline and you'll read it and it will be like the lamest shit in the world and I was like, oh it sounds like they're giving monkeys more advanced brains, but they're definitely not doing that. And then just read the article, it was like, oh no, we are fucked. We're giving them two brains.

And, uh, speaking of being fucked, how about the international air travel industry? Am I right? That's a perfect time for you to play the Plainly Speaking theme song. Okay, I'll play it now. Ah, this is your Captain Speaking. Please return your seats for their upright positions as we are coming in hot on another edition of Plainly Speaking. It's not really a song, is it? No, theme... A sting? A sting is probably... There's no way to find these things out, so we should probably move on.

Great. I don't know about you guys, but I think the thing I miss the most about being able to go overseas is the flights. You know, it's being in a different destination, pretty cool, but being on a plane, love it. It's pretty good stuff. And my favorite thing is, now I don't know if you guys have had this before, but sometimes when you're on a flight, they will give you a very, very small portion of somehow both cold and extremely hot food. They call it a meal, but they're laughing when they say it. What is the deal with it?

It generally doesn't taste like anything and it's very, very small and I love that. That is something that I look forward to every time. But it's a shame because you can only have them on planes, right? That's correct. Wrong. You are both wrong. You are both wrong. Oh.

Because some struggling airline catering companies are doing what they swore an oath that they would never do when they started, but they're selling their food to people that aren't on planes. I got a- Did they swear that they would never do it? That's what you do. You take the airline food oath. Never shall this food be ate by someone whose feet be upon the dirty ground. You know what the problem is is I think that

everybody has very much just kind of compartmentalized and contextualized airline food in the flying on a plane context because you know you kind of go yeah it sucks but what else you're gonna do? Choices are pretty Because you know, you kind of go, yeah, it sucks, but choices are pretty slim. Choices are pretty slim, you know? Not really a lot of other people coming down the aisle offering me a meal. But then you eat one in an environment where you could just like walk into your own kitchen and fry an egg.

Do you reckon it's maybe a dangerous game for airline catering companies to let people find that out? Like sitting in the comfort of their own home eating it and just being like, oh what the fuck? This sucks! Well, it's not even like, um, you know, there are already a variety of ways in which you can receive a prepackaged meal. You can get yourself like a frozen TV dinner type thing from Coles. It'll be very cheap. It'll the the the the th. It'll the th. It'll th. It'll be the the th. It'll be the thi. It'll be the thi. It'll be the thi. It'll be the their thi. I thi. I' thi. I's their their thiocomfeatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheathing thiocomf. I's thiocomf. I's thiocomf. I thiocomf. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I's th. I's th. I's thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thin. I'm thin. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thin. I'm th. I'm thin. I'm th. I'm thin. I'm thin. I'm thateateateateat a frozen TV dinner type thing from Coles. It'll be very

cheap. It'll be shit from a supermarket, from wherever. You can get like the, what do they call them, like the Hello Fresh kind of pre-prepped meal delivery stuff where they give it to you and they say, here's a card where we teach you how to fry an onion for two minutes. And then you just kind of assemble it. There's some of those sorts of things. There's like your lean cuisine type, or like the diet meals if you're, I don't know, doing personal training and you're trying to control your portions or your calorie intake or whatever.

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I got a full fucking meal, like a big curry and stuff for like a one hour, two hour flight. It was wild. I was taken aback. They must have been absolutely gunning it to get that heated up and out to people. Yeah, that must have been. Well, if you want to replicate th th th th th th th th th th th th th to get that heated up and out to people. Yeah that must have been. Well if you want to replicate this experience in your home, Gate Gourmet, which is a international airline catering company, they are selling frozen in-flight meals in a bulk out of Sydney, Brisbane and Melbourne airports, they were selling them out of Perth, but they are sold out. Honestly, for the price that they're selling for, them for, I am a little bit intrigued.

I think that the price here is the differentiator. They are clearly desperately trying to move their warehouses full of frozen meals that they just can't get to go anywhere. So for like 20 bucks bucks you will get 10 random breakfast meals but I mean is that good because like two bucks but they were also very very small they're tiny right but it's still two bucks I don't know is that good value how long does it take to drive to the airport half an hour? I believe I believe I would class the size of an airline meal generally as pathetic

Yep, absolutely. Yes, a meal for babies is what they are to me. Like if they're making these with the standard recipes Like if this is just literally the stuff they would have on a plane? Aren't they like? Airplane food's meant to have way high levels of salt and sugar in them because of like pressure levels on a plane, I think, deaden our ability to taste sweet and salty foods? I don't know, but I'm always, I'm already putting a lot of salt and sugar in whatever I eat anyway. Well, maybe these are perfect for you. Maybe this is exactly the thing you've been looking for. I don't know if you guys want to... Like, finally, someone has someone to their their their food properly with a cup of sugar over the top of these eggs. If you guys want to maybe have a look in the notes there, I've got some examples of the meals you can get. So they've provided two images.

One is the normal thing you get, which is a disgusting little black tub of food. And then the other is a plating suggestion where they have put two very just like big haphazard things of rosemary on there as a garnish on top of the eggs. May I may describe this for the listener? I would love it if you did. Okay so the first one the plating image, Birds Eye view, let's say flat lay if you will. Yeah flat style. Let's say somebody you've been given a quick scan of a polaroid of this breakfast maybe it's some kind of hostage situation I don't know. But we've got eggs, we've got cubed, I'm gonna say briefly fried tomatoes. Oh I was struggling to identify what that was because I reckon it's meant to be

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well reconstituted from a frozen state than scrambled eggs, some tomatoes that have been in a pan for 40 seconds and like a lump of spinach. So spinach, spinach freezes pretty good. Everything else in there freezes like ass. Mushrooms, that those mushrooms you get in those fucking things are always just the worst. And they don't look good. I'm looking at the picture that these people have used to try and sell it and you're just like, you can see the bad texture of that mushroom visibly. God. Yeah, very much. I would also suggest that I know these meals are $2.2 each, but 80 cents worth of produce in this meal. You can just do that yourself. Yeah I would say that there is one mushroom here that has been sliced thinly, maybe half of a potato. Two eggs, maybe two eggs. I'm saying one and half eggs from looking at it. The eggs do look, I would describe them as obliterated in terms of however, thes of, you can't.... You to to to to to to to th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, you can't just thi, you can't just thi, you can't thi, you can't just the. You the. You the. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You can th. You can th. You can th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the can just just just just the can just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just theateateateateateateate. You can't just the. You can't just the. You can't just th eggs. I'm saying one and a half eggs from looking at it. The eggs do look, I would describe them as obliterated in terms of however you would like to make your scrambled eggs.

They look extremely dry. They look more like grits than eggs at this point, you know, which is never a great sign. So I guess we'd better go down and buy 60 meals and see if we like them. I guess. One thing I was looking at the website and they've got a thing at the top that says, the majority of chicken and vegetarian meals are halal. Cool. So if you only eat halal, you're doing like a fucking Russian roulette of just being like, maybe. They said the majority? Awesome. How is that helpful to anyone very strange you know the problem is when you're down at the airport lining up to buy your 600

frozen meals and you're trying to get a straight answer hey which ones are not halal and they're like most of them can I get a hard percentage on that no like like a good share of them a Can I get a hard percentage on that? No. Like, like a good share of them. Oh well. And you're thinking of yourself, hey, how am I going to solve this problem? And one obvious answer is to impose Sharia law on the entirety of the country you live in. That would really, that's like a, cutting straight to the heart of it, a real gaudy and not solution to the problem. Yes, it would solve this very specific problem that I'm having with the airline food.

And that's why I was very happy to receive a flyer that informed me of all the ways in which COVID-19 was actually a conspiracy to convert the world to Sharia law. Unfortunately, bad news for me in my airline meals USA Today has run a fact check. And this is this is yeah that's the noise I was looking for. It really does make you sigh to consider that like a large newspaper in America has to run a fact check on whether or not, quote from the headline, COVID-19 restrictions are not related to imposition of sharia law. Oh, what a bummer. So this is from the article in USA Today. The claim, steps to limit

the spread of COVID-19 are the first moves to impose in USA Today, the claim, steps to limit the spread of COVID-19 are the first moves to impose shereal or in the United States. What kind of brain do you have, sorry to pull this up so quickly, but to have that sentence just light up parts of your mind and have like serotonin release to be like, yeah, yeah, no, that sounds about right. It's ticking a lot of boxes for it. That's, like, well, it fits, I mean, it doesn't seem so... That's it. That really does fit with everything that I'm seeing around me. It's like the people who freak out about like, um, you know, Cadbury's chocolate and Milo

and stuff having the little HAL thing on them? I can't even get into that. It's like, oh, next thing you know, playing the call to prayer at the footy. But, uh, so they have tried to explain the flyer away here. This social media post claims that steps adopted in the United States to limit the spread of the coronavirus, such as the slaughter of hogs, closing of bars and churches, and cancellation of sports are actually part of a secret agenda to facilitate the spread of Sharia law. Mispelled in the post as Sharia.

That's lowercase S-H-I-R-I-A. And I will point out that they've misspelled it as such four times in the flyer. So good. Sharia law provides a framework by which Muslims may live their lives. It is based on the Quran and the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad. According to the Library of Congress, some provisions of Sharia law clash with Western concepts of personal freedom and equality between the sexes. That also has made an easy target for extremists to point to when attempting to vilify or demonize Muslims. And I believe we've talked about a

number of these things and particularly the way people freak out about them in Australia on previous episodes. The social media post states that among the actions that point to the adoption of Islamic law in the United States is the slaughter of 700,000 pigs a week. Muslims avoid all pork products for religious reasons. And the coronavirus outbreak forced the closure of slaughterhouses across the country. Damn. Demand from restaurants, closed by the pandemic has also dropped. That has left farmers with more pigs than they can handle, leaving them often with little choice but to euthanize their hogs.

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people are losing their jobs and don't have access to unemployment benefits and all that kind of thing. Nothing to be benefits and all that kind of thing. Nothing to be done but settle these pigs on fire. I also enjoy the fact that this is sort of like munging together a whole bunch of nonsensical concepts to form like an overarching nonsensical concept. Like the, um, the widely held belief that Muslims hate pigs and that's why, you know, it's against the law to eat them and that sort of thing. And so you see all those fucking, you know, the disgusting shit in Tom Clancy novels where, in one of them, a counter-terrorist, like, um, in

one of them, a counter-terrorist, like, pushes, like, an American football into the hands of a dying terrorist so that he would have to touch like pigskin. Is that a real thing? I believe it is and I'm, I can't look it up right now. So everybody else just go and quickly look that up and either yell at me or don't. I choose to believe it's true because I hate Top Clancy so that's, that's fine. But it's nothing to do with the fact the fact the fact the fact the fact the fact th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I, thi. I, thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. I'm, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, is, it's, is, is, is, is, is, is, it's, it's, it's, that. It. It. It's, it's, it's, it's, th. It's, th. It's, thi. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, it's, i's, i. It's, i. It's, it's, it's true because I hate top classy, so that's fine. But it's nothing to do with the fact. I mean, it's like, you know, it's like the Jewish belief of not eating pork, because I mean, back in the times when this was written, it was practical too.

But it's just like, it's just being put through the filter of Facebook memes and stuff, like until it emerges as whatever the fuck this is, as if you can't just walk down to the shops and buy bacon at every single fucking grocery store because there's an oversupply, not an undersupply. So this is from a 2003 review of the Tom Clancy book, The Teeth of the Tiger in the Washington Post. The novel's most bizarre moment occurs after a shopping mall shootout. Brian Caruso, confronting a dying terrorist dashes to to to to to to to to to to a to a to a to a the to a the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. I. I. I. I. I can't just just just just just just just just. I. I can't te. Ic. te.e. tea. te. te. te. te. te. te. their. their. the occurs after a shopping mall shootout. Brian Caruso confronting a dying terrorist dashes to a nearby store and returns with a football which he forces into the man's hand. It's a pig skin expletive, I'm assuming it was very racist, whatever they've got over there, made from the skin of a real Iowa pig. Apparently this is dignity.

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The post also states that bars along with churches are closed in accordance with Muslim beliefs. This is true, but has nothing to do with Sharia law. The moves are tied to social distancing measures backed by science and health officials and adopted by the US and much of the rest of the world to limit the spread of COVID-19. This includes limits on houses of worship where people gather together in large numbers and often in closed quarters, close corners, I should say. I do enjoy looking at this flyer that says, the entire world shall be Muslim, exclamation, exclamation. COVID-19, farmers are killing 700,000 pigs a week.

Sharia law prohibits pork products of any kind. Well, it stands to reason. Coved 19 canceled all sports. Sharia law prohibits all sports. I find that one interesting because like, um, the, like the, like the, like the, the, like the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, that one interesting because like the lightweight champion of the UFC and like one of the most, I guess one of the most popular athletes in the world of the moment is Muslim. Like there's whole stretches of the year where he doesn't fight because he has to do Ramadan and can't do his whole training camps and stuff. But I guess nobody told him.

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It just seems to be the aftermath of a bombing somewhere or some type of attack or something. It's very confusing. It's really not clear. But I think that the people who make these things aren't really that worried about, like, accuracy relevance, spelling. No. Any of that sort of stuff. But yeah, I mean the whole thing with this is that this is a very good example of why fact-checking

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Thank you so much. I'm sorry that we're going to have to award this poorly spelled, crude flyer five Pinocchio's. That is the most Pinocchio is that we can award it. It makes me think of like kind of related. A friend of the show Ben Jenkins posted something recently saying, I think it was Ben Jenkins saying that he has had to like watch a whole bunch of Donald Trump speeches for work, like his stump speeches at rallies and stuff. And he was like, the thing that a lot of journalists won't say about Donald Trump is that

a very good portion of the things that he says that people have a big freak out about and do fact checks up and stuff like that He's joking Like and you you can see when you watch the things he's joking. He's having a great time mic night. He's doing his famous I can drink water bit. Famous I can drink water bit. He has a bunch of things. Obviously, he also says horrific shit up there. He also gets up there and says, the police should be beating the fuck out of people and smashing the heads on police cars when they put them in the back.

He does say a bunch of stuff like that. But he says a bunch of things that are just him like taking the piss, being a dip shit. And the problem is that like it's still a thing that the President of the United States is saying. And journalists then feel as though they have to write about it breathlessly as, oh, he said, as far as we understand Joe Biden is capable of drinking a glass of water. Like you have to seriously address all these things that he's saying. And it's just, it's like this, it's like fact-checking a stupid, fucking racist social media post in a newspaper.

Like, it, it does so much more damage to the newspaper than it does to the dumb post? Just this ridiculous, like, constant race to get to the bottom of everybody taking every stupid thing that everyone says really seriously. It's like if we had a dog for present and the dog got up on stage, the first and only thing it did was sucked its own dick. And then every media outlet has to immediately type out, the president, dog today sucked its own dick. Here's why that doesn't represent us as Americans.

We are better than a dog on stage sucking its dick. Here's why that's not normal. And then some people are like, I support my president sucking his own dick on stage. Excuse me, I think you'll find that President Dog was joking when he sucked his own dick. He was sarcastically sucking so forth. He knew, he knew you guys were gonna freak out about it. You fucking, lefty journalist? President Dogg on stage sucking his own dick thinking, oh, they're gonna walk right into this one. Got him.

Laying a careful trap for us to write about President Dog sucking his dick. Did you guys watch any of those clips like the water bit and the rap. No, I've never seen a dog suck his own dick. You watch any of the greatest hits of President dogs sucking his own dick? No, I think, like, I guess, um, I guess in the same way that, you know, this pandemic has, has laid bare all of the massive institutional failings that America has. All the problems in its health care system, all the problems with the police, all of the problems with trying to get any significant portion of your citizens to even remotely consider anybody but themselves, you know. And things like that, the trying to get people to just be responsible

citizens who aren't actively facilitating like the spread of a disease that's killing hundreds of thousands of people. You can also look at that and say, this is also a direct result of these endless culture wars and making everything political. Everything has to be like either yes I'll wear a mask or no I won't I won't let the deep state cow me into submission by helping me not die. Just all of this sort of stuff and obviously it's laid all of those massive failings bare but Trump is just such a specific instance of just showing how incredibly powerless the media is to grapple with him in any form. There is just, when the, when President dogs up there sucking his own dick, what are you

meant to write about it? You know? I don't know. None of us do. We weren't ready. When we came to the speech today, we weren't ready to see a dog's sake. And you've got to write something because you've got to generate ad revenue so silence on an issue just isn't an option. We condemn President Dogs Act. This is something that like... Obviously this is not quite comparable because this is not really the sort of website that pedestrian was, right? But like there is a thing you get when you're writing about the news where you feel like if you strike a sufficiently like, that there is something in being like, I saw a bad thing, I'm going to write that the bad thing is bad, right, that you feel like you're doing something. And you get kind kind kind of the the the the the the the the th of thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th write that the bad thing is bad, right? That you feel like you're doing something.

And you get kind of brainwashed into that, because if your job is to write stuff that people will read, you feel like there is some utility in doing it. And it also gets traffic for the website. It's like the self-fulfilling thing of being like, this is the correct thing to do from all perspectives. I'll just do this all the time and then after a while I sort of realize that I'm just like I am just bringing stuff that sucks to more people's attention and like it is pointless and there's no real way to write about it that doesn't do that.

You're better off just not doing it. So for like the last six months that I worked there people just be like wow you should write about the the the th a th a th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thus th thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus. I thus thus thus thus thus thus thi. I thi. I thi. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm just thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi be like, wow, you should write about this. I'd be like, no, what if we just ignore it? And what if I write about Bigfoot instead? That sounds better. It's just, well, yeah, I guess that, like you're saying, there is a certain point with particular things where it's like how, yeah, like Trump specifically I think is sort of the ultimate pinnacle example of it is almost impossible to provide any type of commentary on the things that he does from day to day to day without participating in the way he wants things to be discussed. Like you kind of can't do it.

It's weird. I think I also get annoyed by people that are like, just straight out, like, well, you're giving them attention, blah, blah, blah. There's definitely some, I don't know, there's some middle ground there, but it just, it feels hard with Trump. Like, we basically never talk about him on this podcast because it's not fun, funny or useful. Like, there's nothing there's there and there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there's nothing there, there, there's nothing there's nothing there's nothing there's nothing there and being like he mispronounced a word today and it's going viral and that's epically win to me is like nothing. No, no it's like the Arctic's melting dude that like we can't we can't help this. Well instead it doesn't matter. Instead it feels like it feels like we're all just... you know, you know, it doesn't matter. Instead it feels like, it feels like we're all just, you know,

in the midst of a never-ending mudslide, like trying to grab onto anything around us and say here's some shore footing. Surely we're at the bottom by now. And like, there were so many things in the first like six months to 12 months of Trump's presidency where it was like that's it. That's the craziest thing that a sitting president of the United States will ever say, will ever project out to the world or anything like that. And then I feel like we all just like were completely overwhelmed by this never-ending deluge of it and things just getting stupider and stupider. And we've got all the way to the point of, you know, having these mass protests and riots

and everything over there. And the president sitting around and being like, the army should shoot them. Like, having him just be like, hey, people who don't agree with me should be murdered by the militarized state via his official channels of communication, which is like so much further down the mudslide than tweeting hamburgers. And they're all things that make me feel like my brain is cooking like a frog in a pot. He's sort of like the perfect weapon. He is the fucking, the creature from species.

Like, just every single thing that he does is unbelievably either shocking or infuriating in some way, but there is no, there is literally no recourse. It doesn't matter if you are like, someone with a lot of power or someone with no power, you cannot toucest too o'court, you have got nothing you can do. Like, you know, he'll say a bunch of stuff in a speech that is just wrong and people

will be like, that's not right. And then his press secretary will be like, it is. And then people say, no it isn't. And then they'll be like, well, agree to disagree. And then you'll say, yeah, we should be shooting these protesters. People say, whoa, you can save that. he. And he's like, ha ha ha, I didn't want I I I I I I I I I didn't want I didn't want I didn't want I didn't want I didn't want I their, I didn't want I didn't their, I didn't their, I didn't their, I didn't their, I didn't their, I didn't their, I didn't want I didn't want I their, I didn't their. I'll their, I'll their, I'll their. I'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. their. their. th. the press. the press. their. their. their. their. their. their not still, you can drink with... And then you just, you get angrier and angrier. And then you do nothing with that rage. And then we're just left with this guy who, you can't toub toub toub. You can't do anything about it. So it stops being funny after a while until every now and then he'll say something we'll say, Alright, that was pretty good. Yeah, but it's just you can't... Can I say which one made me laugh recently and it shouldn't have? I would love to hear it.

Where, when he was doing his thing and he started talking about the cung flu? Oh great, now you're racist. It's just... It's terrible and it's racist and everything and I was like, but that's a new one for him. It's also it sounds unnatural coming out of his mouth. thea. thia th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's that's tho' that's that's that thathea' that's that's that's that's tho tho to that's to that's that's tho' tho' thathea thathea thathea thathea th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's that's that's that's that's thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo' th. It that's a new one for him. It's also it sounds unnatural coming out of his mouth I think it's so forced to try and piss people off. Well everything sounds unnatural coming out of his mouth. That's true. Chena. But yeah I guess like it is it's infuriating in many different ways and this isn't to say that there is nothing that can be done about anything we're not we're not trying to portray any particular like a nihilistic viewpoint or anything. I think it's more just that we can see that the things that are actually having a real impact are people getting out and being part of a mass movement

and getting out and making themselves heard in the streets and pulling down statues and you can see that that is know a really direct impact all across the states at all levels of like local and state government where you know even like I know it seems stupid but even even the things like NASCAR are just without being made to saying yeah we're gonna cut it out with all this confederate flag shit like there's been a big wave of all of the that that that that that that th and th and th and th and that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that the states that that that that that th that. th. th. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that that that that the states that the states the the the the the the the the the that that that the that the that that that that that that that that that that that that. And that that that that that that. And that that that that th saying, yeah, we're going to cut it out with all this Confederate flag shit. Like there's been a big wave of all of these different things from people in local governments saying, you know what?

No more cops in schools. We're not doing cops and schools anymore. Just all these little steps. Approximately 0% of those things happened because somebody replied, sir, this is a Wendy's to Donald Trump on Twitter. Like there is just absolutely none of this has been done by like John Oliver calling him a bumbling cheeto or whatever on the show. Did you see the... what's his name? John, the guy who had the Daily Show before? Yeah the John Stewart tweet the, uh, what's his name, John, um, the guy I had the Daily Show before.

Stuart? Yeah, the John Stewart tweet the other day. Uh, I did. Yeah, let's, let's trend this. I've never, like, it's just such an overwhelming sadness to see that. I'm just being like, oh, we're so fucked. Yeah, that, that sort of, weird. The fucking asterix-yol typeire where you're just like, okay, well, you're just not doing anything, are you? And then that's the only thing that like, sort of liberal politicians know how to do in response as well. It's, yeah. Like I said, my point is not to say this is all fucked and it's not worth anybody doing anything because that's not

the case but it has laid bare that you know over over the course of decades that I think media as an industry as a complex has become so entwined with politics and with lobbying and with being owned by corporations and all these things that they are just effectively powerless. Like there is no, there is no ability for them to embarrass Trump, there's no ability for them to like make him change anything he's doing or get anybody fired from the administration or any of that sort of shit It's like Stephen Miller's still there, you know All that sort of stuff. So

I guess I guess what I'm trying to say is that I don't think that it is particularly nihilistic or counterproductive or ignorant or anything to say I just don't think I need to pay attention to what he's saying on a daily basis. I think that that's okay to do for yourself. You know? Just one man's opinion up here on the space station. And there's a lot of opinions going around here about which ocean moons we should maybe relocate to. Well I think it's important that we take Copernicus the monkey back to earth shave down his brain to a manageable size and then try to reintegrate him into a community. Get the old brain plane out. Get the old brain plane out. We move out those folds that we accidentally put in. We need the

reverse of that gene. Just like a real a real tension going on that we accidentally put in. We need the reverse of that chain. Just like a real, a real tension going on on that surface. So, um, you know, we, we want to take him down. We want to get him somewhere that's going to be good for him. And that brings home to the place. I belong. Bult and hisser. Nature corner. Rubber crab. Snipped my dick. My dick. It's been snipped my dick. My dick, it's been snipped by a robber crab. Uh, so we're gonna take Copernicus and

we're gonna take him down and reintegrate him into a community and I think we found the perfect one. Uh, this is from the mirror, the headline, Humans Forced to Hide from Sex-Adicted Monkeys who set up headquarters in disused cinema. Now, there's something really tantalizing to me about the use of the term headquarters in this. This implies that there are maps on the walls, there are maybe some blueprints being spread out. You know the whole scene from the first half of diehard two, the one at the airport,

where they, the bad guys, take over like a church just near the airport, and then they bring in all their like cool equipment and set it all up and everything. I just got to say, in movies, I absolutely love where people wheel in cool equipment. Yeah. Huge fan of those scenes specific. Don't know why, fucking love them. And I am picturing that scene, but it is monkeys manning all of the like,

transparent radar overlays and stuff, you know? It's fun to see monkeys do human things. They finger on the red button. Taping a little radar. Who shall we attack next, my sex crazed colleagues. That's what they try to plan. Well, apparently the who shall they attack next is everybody in the Thai city of Lopburi who thought the best way of appeasing the Randy primates was to feed them junk food,

but the sugary diet has made the problem worse. Oh, now they're all hopped up. Now they can jack off three times as fast before they crash. Uh-huh. Jesus Christ. Oh, it's no good. Once they work out how to show the the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tie the the tie the tie the the tie tie tie tie tie city th th tie city city city thie city city thie city thie thie thie city thie city city city city city city city city city city city thy thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thie tie thie tie thie thie thie thie thie thie thie thie thie thie thie to to to to tie tie to tie tie tie tie tie tie tie tie tie tie tie tie tie tie thi tie thi thi thi times as fast before they crash. Uh-huh. Jesus Christ. Oh, no good. Once they work out how to show a porno on the, uh, on the cinema screen, it's all over for us. I'm imagining it like, uh, like, gremlin's two. They're all in the theater, like, hanging off the curtains and everything, all yelling at one poor projection, who's the thape. tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, the, the, the, the, the, the, tho, tho, the, the, tho, tho, the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the the the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the the the the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the th, the thor, the thor, the, the, the, the, the, theat, theat, theat, thoooooooooooo, thooooooooooo, thoooo, tho, tho, tho, tho, the thrying to get an old print of Debbie does Dallas on that. And one of them is a sexy lady. Ooh, the one sexy lady monkey.

Now unfortunately, you know, as we, as we've seen, there's lots of, lots of stories of, I guess the balance of power kind of shifting a bit back towards wild animals in, you know, certain places. Like the dolphins that went into Venice and then knocked all the gondolias off their gondolas and then stood with the gondolas and paddled the gondolas. Yeah, you know those documentaries that are like this is what would happen if like humans just disappeared. And like, you know, after 20 years or 50 years, this city would be completely overgrown.

It's like that is happening now just in smaller patches. Just a little cinema filled with horny monkeys. That's how it starts. I think that's how the start of Peter Jackson's movie Brain Dead starts. A bunch of horny monkeys. So they've set up a HQ in this, slashing out anyone brave enough to try and drive them away. So they've given them a bunch of fast food.

And this has made life miserable for the people of Lottbury. And... Okay. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yes, they are. The macaques are laying there dead to rest at a projection room. Yeah.

As locals struggle to come up with a plan to reclaim the streets. Oh, no. The monkeys are independently, uh, inventing religion. As locals struggle to come up with a plan to reclaim the streets. The monkeys are independently inventing religion. See now, what life has done here is life has just made a big mistake in screenwriting and that I am now sympathizing with the macaques. And I believe they are the good guys in any human macaque conflict. Well, you say that, but one resident of the city lamented, we live in a cage, but the monkeys live outside. I have flipped my allegiance back to humans. Really makes you

think, doesn't it? She continues, the excrement is everywhere, the smell is unbearable, especially when it rains. This is awful, by the way. I actually, I believe we've made ourselves clear as an anti-monkey. I think you've made yourself clear as pro-Monkey cop, something that I never agreed to. I don't like it when humans are injured by monkeys, obviously, but also I respect the monkey as a creature. That, that is true. You have to respect the monkeys. Especially when there's twice as many of them in two years and

They're committing large brawls in the city streets It's now now is reported that the parts of the city have become no-go areas, so they are implementing Sharihaw. I've just realized what this is now. Yep, this is definitely a reactionary right-wing blue-check reporter claiming that they're in no-go macaque zones. It's just a video of it walking around town why macaques are doing their shopping. And the monkey's made in use of themselves by tearing through shops and businesses, their shops and businesses, their shops, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, and toe, and too, too, tho, and too, and too, and too, and too, and too, and too, and too, and too, and too, and too, and too, and too, and too, and too, and too, too, is is, is, is, is, is, is, is toe, is the, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is theirs, is together, is together, through shops and businesses leaving a trail of destruction in their wake.

I really feel like this is a last of us two situation where there's no heroes and no villains. It's just humans and monkeys. But the rope coiling physics though. Incredible. I thought the villains were the people that, you know, I guess it's good to hear that the monkeys are winning somewhere. If, if they're having fun, it doesn't sound like they're having fun. Like, it doesn't sound like the monkeys are having fun. It doesn't sound like anyone in that town is having fun.

It sounds like the monkeys are freaking out, getting mad and wanting more junk food, which frankly isn't going to make them the the m their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their So they're sterilizing the monkeys as a way of dealing with this. Oh boy. I don't know if the mirror website is extremely horribly laid out. Yeah, really? I felt like I got to the end of that article about six times. And then I was like, because I've been fooled so many times, I kept scrolling past it now I've just got like horrible targeted ads that are specifically targeting me CPAP makers running scared after a new snoring solution unveiled I'm fine with my CPAP thank you very much I just spent a lot of money on it a new snoring solution running scared running scared has CEPAP inventors blocking there he is howling at the moon

is a CPAP inventors wife who has just come home to find her husband like frantically stuffing clothes into a suitcase and saying like go get the photo albums now don't ask questions. They've solved snoring. Start the car! We got it we have to leave tonight. Oh my gosh this is these ads uh... They're very very bad. We have to leave tonight, it's the final snoring solution. Oh no. Sorry everybody.

Oh, Jesus, it's been a long day. Oh boy. So, I think that that is about all of the bad things from the world that we can bring to you today. I think we've been clear on what the moral of the story is. The moral of the story is, well, it's going to hell in the handbasket. It's been claimed by horny monkeys and led by a man who is frankly far too proud of drinking a glass. That's why we're all up here here here here here here the th here thia thia th here th here th here th here th here th here th here th here thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. I'm to thi. I's to thi to thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th here and encouraging you to come to space and go to Titan.

I just hear it's lovely on Titan. I hear it's so nice. This time of year it's very special. You don't even need to bring anything. Oh, don't even need your body. Nope. We'll deal with that when you get here. Thank you everybody.

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