Boonta Vista - EPISODE 161: Perfectly Legal

Episode Date: August 9, 2020

A nude German man has his valuables stolen by a wild boar. The bubonic plague rears its ugly head. Jim "Jim's Mowing" Penman rears his. All this plus a double-header of Paging Dr Lucy and all-new segm...ent 'Bean to Bar'. *** Support our show and get exclusive bonus episodes by subscribing on Patreon: www.patreon.com/BoontaVista *** Email the show at mailbag@boontavista.com! Call in and leave us a question or a message on 1800-317-515 to be answered on the show! *** Twitter: twitter.com/boontavista Website: boontavista.com Merchandise: boontavista.com/merchandise Twitch: twitch.tv/boontavista

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome, Buenavista, episode 161. I am Ben and I am here in Frank Frazetta's imagination. Amidst swirling clouds an enormous mountain stands a mighty barbarian, rippling with highly detailed musculature and wielding a two-handed sword as long as the wingspan of an albatross. It's Theo. Hey, how're you going? How are you going?
Starting point is 00:00:47 Yeah, I'm pretty good. That looks, that's pretty cool what you got going on there? Yeah, I'm ready to rumble. Yep. Big muscles, big sword, their and crowns of conquered kings, adrenched in the blood of its victims, is a mighty war pig. It's Lucy. What a dream. That's exactly how I picture my life.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Oh, to be a mighty war pig. Gazing at that barbarian, with loveline eyes is a mostly nude broad, with a magical staff, a serpent familiar, and an enormous ass. It's Andrew. Hello, Theo. Hey. Do you need a queen for your kingdom? Does it come with a dump truck ass?
Starting point is 00:01:32 Absolutely. A strangely muscular dump truck ass. He's got 20 square centimeters of chain mail and a badonk-dog. Mm-hmm. And I'm here to serve you. It's been me squirting baby oil at Theo's muscles for the last 20 minutes before we start. Hey, hey, stop it. I mean, no, I missed a little, just a, just the elbow. I missed the elbow. I've got a four Frank Frazetta prints in this room that I'm in right now, which is maybe that's why I try to say this the intro. Just looked around the room and found the closest thing possible. I looked at the thing that's directly across from me. I would like to note that you are only specified in this room.
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Starting point is 00:02:55 What the fuck? Isn't there anything? You don't encounter a lot of checked shirts on a day-to-day basis in life? It's a particular one that I have actually, so I'll stop wearing it. Talking like a sort of plaid or a gingham type deal, what are we? Probably closer to gingham than plaid, like when it's quite a tight pattern. My brain goes, oh let's not go back there. Oh, no. The bad place. Bad gingham place. Yeah. What a great superhero weakness to have. Can't look at one type of shirt.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Accidentally broke one extremely specific part of my brain. Your brain just dropped one of the textures of the universe. Now you're fucked. Yeah. I was having too good a time when looking at that one time. And now my brain is like, we cannot go back. I've got that with so so so that with so that with so that with so that with so that with so that with so that with so that with so that with that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that the that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that. that. that. that. that. their their their their that with, so that the pictures in this room and there's like these weird sort of flourishy scrollwork wooden vents above all the doors in this house that I also had a very
Starting point is 00:03:56 hard time with what I was looking at them every now and then I'd see them with a quarter by I'd be like, oh I know what you're up to. Trying to get in here. That's the wonderful thing about drugs. They all come from nature. 100% of them. That's right, they do. That's true. That's completely true. Timothy Leary was walking at a field,
Starting point is 00:04:15 when he found acid, yes. Growing, Yeah. I remember. Yep, remember he was cooking and he found some acid in a field and sprinkled it onto his food thinking it was just another regular, tasty bit of nature. It turned out to be something different altogether. But that's why we love nature.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Country roes, take me home to the place. By the place I belong. Who'll take a sown. Nature Corner. Rubbercraft snipped my dick. Corner! That's right, baby, it's Nature Corner. It's where we take a little trip around the world and we say,
Starting point is 00:05:07 hey, what's that over there? That seems interesting. Let me describe it to my friends on the radio. The radio of the internet. Is this you try to like explain what you do to a grandparent? God, no, that would be embarrassing. It's like, people ask what this podcast is about and it's like, I don't, I don't know. I don't know. Oh, fucking mad. Crabs. Crabs. Um,
Starting point is 00:05:33 dear friend of the show, Liz Duck Chung did comment the other day. I remember when this was a political podcast. I don't. Remember that? Talking about MPs and some such? No thank you. Not interested. Not interested. We're done with that. I. I. I. I. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I. Yeah. I. Yeah. I. Yeah. I. I. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the f. Oh, I'm fucking. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh, I'm fucking. Oh, I'm. Oh, I'm. Oh, I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. I. I. I the f. I the f. I the f. I'm fucking. I'm fucking. I'm fucking. I'm fucking. Oh, I th. I'm fucking. I'm fucking th. I th. I th. I'm fucking. I'm fucking the the the the the the th. I'm fucking th. Remember that? Talking about MPs and some such? No thank you. Not interested. Not interested. We're done with that. I was talking to my mother about this the other day and I said, you know what I don't want to spend like two hours of my week doing every week saying, that's Scott Morrison sure is a dickhead. He is. I think we've covered that. Yeah. It's pretty exhaustive. I don't, I don't know that. that. that. that that that that that that that that th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. the. th. the. that's tho. the. that's that's tho. that's that's the. that's that's thi. that's've covered that. We're on record. Pretty exhaustive. I don't know what more I really have to say about that particular topic. Maybe if Australian politics gets remarkably more interesting, any time in the near future, we'll revisit that. If another politician does a very bad shaker, we will be right here to talk about that and nothing else. Yes, or if people keep writing articles about defending politicians and how much we love them to th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho the the the thi thi the the the the the the the tho tho tho tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the to to to to to to say to to to to to to tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo to to the the the here to talk about that and nothing else. Yeah. Yes. Or if people keep writing articles about defending politicians and how much we love them
Starting point is 00:06:28 and love to kiss them. True. But instead we're going to bring you stories like this one from the Guardian, entitled, You swine. German nudist chases wild boar that stole laptop. That's not often you see an exclamation mark in a headline. Hmm. You swine. You swine. You swine. My favorite part of this is that the picture accompanying the article basically explains everything.
Starting point is 00:06:50 It's the content of the bag that's revealed to the article and nothing else. Yeah, it's um, like I said, Lucy, if you've seen the pictures, you kind of the article. You know exactly what happened. We are in an audio audio tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus tho o' thi thi thi. thi. It's thi. It's tho thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. It's the picture the picture the picture the picture the picture the picture the picture the picture the picture the picture the picture th. It's th. It's th. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. You know exactly what happened. We are in an audio format here, so. A picture says a thousand words. Here's a thousand words. So what I didn't know about this story, having seen the pictures, was that the boar has his bag with his laptop in it, which I will say necessitates more of a chase than say, I originally thought that like,
Starting point is 00:07:26 the pig had just taken like his shorts. Yeah. Like, oh no, my clothes. Which is, which is funnier to me, a naked guy running after a pig and its little baby pigs that have taken his pants and run away with them. That's very good to me. I love the idea of that man getting on a bus, having given up.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Like, hey, what happened your pants? Pig took it. Okay. Oh. It's very, uh, there are some very German aspects to this story. Mainly that it took place in Germany. Yep, that's the big one. A new disbather who chased a wild wild-born near a Berlin lake after it stole his laptop
Starting point is 00:08:06 was applauded by onlookers after a successful pursuit. I love it that's the lead of the story. It's the applause. It's not that he had the thing stolen. Yeah, good on you buddy. He got the best of that pig. Good job, very well done. Those pigs. And do th pigs th pigs th pigs th th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, tho, tho, tho, tho, that, tho, tho, tho, thoom. thoom. tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. That's, th. th. That's, th. th. That's, th. That's, th. tho. tho. to toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. And, tha. Well, those pigs, too. And do they go around and check whether people were clapping for the man or for the pig? Hmm.
Starting point is 00:08:30 You kept him away from him for five minutes, very good. What a competent pig. That's the sort of thing German's love, I assume. Competent pigs. Oh, the photographer who captured the drama said the unidentified nudist was happy for her to share the images. Of course he was. You know that's that's called like just staying true to your roots. You know you can't be out there down by the lake in Berlin, stark naked, nudist time, living in free body culture which we'll get into in a second.
Starting point is 00:09:04 And then when someone who says hey can I show the world, dark naked, nudist time, living in free body culture, which we'll get into in a second. And then when someone who says, hey, can I show the world your bare ass? To be like, whoa, all of a sudden I'm shy. Picture, absolutely not happening. That's right. Man of his word. The picture showed him in bare-bottomed pursuit of the ball,
Starting point is 00:09:20 and her two piglets while fellow bathes looked on in amusement. and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, th....... th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to be like, to be like, to be like, to be like, to be like, to be like, to be like, to be like, to be like, to be like, to be like, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be like, to be like, to be like, to be like, to be like, to be like, to be like, to be like, to be like, to be like, to be like, to be like, to be like, to be like, to to to to to to to to to to be like, to be like, to be like, to be like, to be like, to be like her two piglets while fellow bathers looked on in amusement. And I think that's fair. Everybody in the background is just smiling and watching themselves. They're just fucking vibing. Every single person, no one is like alarmed. Everyone's just like, oh look over there. Oh, what did you do? God, I would love to see this. What a day that would be.
Starting point is 00:09:39 No one's trying to thing which is fine. You don't need to get involved. There's a bunch of people standing around like with their hands on their hips and be like, well, I'm gonna let this run its course. Let's see where this goes, you know? Nature strikes back, wrote Adele Landauer, a personal coach on Facebook. I showed the man the photos, he laughed heartily and gave me permission to make some public. He does look like someone who would do a hardy laugh. It's not a regular laugh. Yes, shows him to the world. That would be satisfactory. So the man was sunbathing naked at the toothless in West Berlin a popular and perfectly legal practice. It is perfectly legal. It's perfectly legal. It's perfectly legal. It's like barefoot. It is perfectly legal sounds so defensive. It's perfectly legal.
Starting point is 00:10:25 It is perfectly legal. It is legal. Bear Bottom is not a crime. Oh, perfectly. That's so true when you preface that we're legal with perfectly, you know, you're like something that's a little bit indefensible. I'm picturing someone like with their hands up going like, whoa, it's perfectly legal, okay. It's perfectly legal here in Germany. It's perfectly the their their their their their their their their their their th is is perfectly legal practice is perfectly legal practice is perfectly legal practice their thee. It's perfectly theoleoleoleole. It's perfectly theage. It's perfectly theole. It's perfectly the. It's perfectly legal, it's perfectly legal, it's perfectly legal, it's perfectly legal, it's perfectly legal, it's perfectly legal, it's perfectly legal, it's perfectly legal, it's perfectly legal, it's perfectly thiole. It's thiole. It's thiol. It's thi. It's thi. It's the. It's perfectly legal practice. It's perfectly legal practice. It's perfectly legal practice, the. It's perfectly legal okay. Hey, hey, hey, it's perfectly legal here in Germany.
Starting point is 00:10:47 It's perfectly legal practice in the German capital as part of what is known as FKK or Frecorpiculture. Free body culture. Now I tried to find like a pronunciation guide for this phrase on the internet being being German where they go what if we were to simply mash a sentence's worth of words together into one big silly word I like it just need one word for it's great I do like it but unfortunately what I found as a result was this video from YouTube account the Turk Automaton, how to pronounce this in German. And I gotta say, this left me with more questions than answers really.
Starting point is 00:11:31 So, here we go. Freyker, Peu- Excuse me. Excuse me. Frike, Pueau. Is that man recording this from like beneath his duna? A basement? Flai carpacquil.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Oh, I don't like it. I'm scared. I don't like it either. He's like all up on the microphone. You know the bit in the sixth sense where he's listening to that recording and he can hear like the voice in the static? That's what that sounds like. It's what it's saying as well. And they start saying it fast? Oh, fry carp a quibouin. Oh, fry carp a gull to.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Oh, this is haunting. Oh, this is haunting. Oh, this story you have to put both of your lips right up their ear canal and whisper in a very breathy way. It's how you speak German it's very aggressive language. Fry Copacoulter. That's right up on that mic. Yeah it's the only way you can say it. Apparently this refers to free body culture, try copaculto. It's nice. Yeah, just let it all hang out, you know.
Starting point is 00:12:49 I noticed that nobody else down by the lake is naked, but they're also not bothered by him. So that's pretty cool. There are naked people in the images. Oh, okay. In the headline image of that article, there is a nude, thiii. You could be wearing speedos. I think he's full nude. I feel like you can see Gooch. Okay. I'm pretty sure. He appears to be having the best time of everyone there. Oh actually no I'm sorry there's a man two people to his right
Starting point is 00:13:13 who is doing like a big open-mouth smile. He is as delighted as a child getting Christmas presents. Very good. The wild boar, sightings of which have become increasingly common, had apparently spotted a pizza being eaten by other babies. What? It seized a yellow bag containing the man's laptop, probably believing it to contain food. I don't think you can make assumptions about edible motivations. Picks are very smart. Maybe he knew exactly what he was doing. He wanted a fucking new laptop. Did anyone ask the pig what it thought was in the bag?
Starting point is 00:13:48 Oh, she, Mr. Pig. There's piglets, right? It's probably, probably a lady pig. Probably a misspiggy. Wow. Just trying to,'t know. It was chased by the man into the undergrowth. Quote, because the bag contained his laptop, he gave it his oil even though he was in his birthday suit, explained Landauer. The ball's flight was slowed by a cardboard box in its path.
Starting point is 00:14:17 The man clapped his hands and hit the ground with a stick, prompting the boar to drop the laptop. Another witness said, when he returned from Zephorst, everyone applauded him. and hit the ground with a stick, prompting the boar to drop the laptop. Another witness said, when he returned from Zephorse, everyone applauded him. Something about when he returned from the forest is so great. He went on a mythical adventure into the forest. Ran in there naked, came back out with his laptop. It's a first step of the hero's journey, I'm pretty sure. The world's most German crypted.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Oh man. Nude man with laptop. Oh, this, I like this. Derek Ellert, Berlin's Ombudsman for Wild Animals. Excuse me. Ombudsman for wild animals. This is who the animals complained to, yeah. Oh right, of course.
Starting point is 00:15:06 He's the ombudsman that represents wild animals not for humid issues. Yelling at the pig and you're like, I'm taking this to a fucking ombudsman. Yeah, it's like a, yeah. Consumer goods ombudsman or whatever, you know. If you're a pig and somebody who's chased you, snatched a laptop that was rightfully yours. Possession being 9th and a lot. He told media that such incidents have become increasingly common and the foxes had also become regular visitors to Berlin's Lakeside Resorts.
Starting point is 00:15:35 If you urge people not to panic in such a case, he said. If you have so far had no injuries, the animals are quite used to humans. I agree. I agree. I agree. That's beautiful. That is nature. So if you look at the two images that I've put in the document there, the one that is a classic Western art left to right scene telling a story. It's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:16:01 It's like a painting. It's very Boschian. It tells a story as well because, you know, we're a left to write to right right right right right right right. It's like a painting. It's really lovely. It's very Boschian. It tells a story as well because, you know, we're a left to right reading culture, so that's the way our eye scan. So you have the man established. You have the piglets, and then you have the pig and then the laptop, and then the people laughing at him. Yeah. But then the next photo is taken exactly orthogonal to the previous image, like in their fixed
Starting point is 00:16:26 video game viewpoints. You can either have the science scroll version or the third person over the shoulder view, where it reveals that the man has perfect hag hill ass. The tiniest little bottom on a very large band. It's so small. He's all top. Does anyone else think that he looks a lot like, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, the, their, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their, their their their their thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thii thiiiiiiii-axxxi-a, their fixed, their their their their their their thi-f Just little bottom on a very large band. It's so small. He's all top. Does anyone else think that he looks a lot like Slavodz-Zek?
Starting point is 00:16:50 Yes. Yes, I do. It was the first thing I thought when I saw this naked man. Oh, dear. Beautiful, everyone is truly enjoying themselves in the background there. They're all enjoying the time, right? Big smiles, all laughing, all laughing, all laughing, all laughing, all laughing, all laughing, all laughing, all laughing, all laughing, all laughing, all laughing, all laughing, all laughing, all laughing, all laughing, all laughing, all laughing, all laughing, all laughing, all laughing, all laughing, all laughing, all laughing, all laughing, all laughing, all laughing, all laughing, all laughing, all laughing, all laughing, all laughing, all laughing, thioliolioliolioliolioli. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their. their. th. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tooo. thi. too. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi in the background there too. They're always such a great time, right? Big smiles, all laughing, literally no one helping. I finally worked out what the top picture reminds me of. It's that Simpson scene, don't make me run, I'm full of chocolate.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Yes. Yes. Hmm. Very much. That's beautiful stuff. That is Nature Corner, where of course we talk about nature. Ben's inserted a different segment here entitled, Plague Corner? That sounds almost as fun. Weirdly we don't have like a jaunty little theme for Plague Corner.
Starting point is 00:17:40 So there's, you know, there's a lot going on in the news at the moment. You'd probably look at current events and you'd say, that's enough current events. We don't really need anymore. We've kind of got the world covered with this whole COVID-19 thing. There's still, climate change is still happening the rest of that. I don't really want another thing. Well, too fucking bad. There is another thing. This is a story from the ABC, the Australian, the Australian, the Australian, the Australian, the Australian, the Australian, the Australian, the Australian, the Australian, the Australian, the Australian, the Australian, the Australian, the Australian, the Australian, the Australian, the Australian, the Australian, the Australian, the Australian, the Australian, the Australian, the Australian, the Australian, tha, tho, tho, tho, thi-a, thi-a, thi-a, thi-up, thi-up, thi-up, thi-up, thi-a, thi-a, thi-a, thi-a, thi-a, thi-a, thi-a, thi-a, thi-a, thi-a, thi-a, thi-a, thi-a, thi-a, thi-s, thi-s, threat, threate-s, that, thirty-s, thirty-s, tho-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'-s, too fucking bad. There is another thing. Cool. This is a story from the ABC, the Australian one, the original, the OG. Septic Plague kills a US man in his 20s after Chinese man dies of bubonic plague.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Now, that's a fun sequence. Hmm. It's just what we need right now. I love to read it. I'm not particularly accustomed to seeing the word plague pop up at a headline, let alone two plagues in the space of one. Yep. That's too many. So, obviously this is tragic, this is a very young man, dying of an illness. A man in his 20s has died at septasemic plague in the US state of New Mexico. It comes just 24 hours after Chinese authorities reported that a man had died from bubonic plague plague in the Inner Mongolia. The New Mexico Department of Health said the septasemic plague victims health had worsened after he was hospitalized. It was the second plague case in
Starting point is 00:18:58 the southwester. the new plague case in the south western state. Oh God. Two plague cases, New Mexico. Two plague cases in New Mexico. Okay, sure. The New Mexico Department of Health ordered an environmental investigation of his home to assess any ongoing risk to family members and neighbors. The bubonic plague victim in Inner Mongolia died from multiple organ failure. It was the second death of a plague patient reported this month in the Chinese region. 35 contacts of the man have been sent into quarantine. sharing some symptoms with bubonic plague is a baic plague is a b. is a b. the the the b. the the the the the disease disease disease disease disease disease disease disease the plague is a the plague is a the plague is a the plague the plague the plague the plague the plague the plague the plague the plague the plague the plague their their their thiiol-p. their thiol-p. thiol-n. their their their their their their their their their their their health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. the Chinese region. 35 contacts of the man have been sent into quarantine. Sharing some symptoms with bubonic plague, septic plague is a bacterial disease that can be transmitted by direct contact with animals or through infected fleas. Animals carrying the disease can include rodents, wildlife and pets. There was a risk when household pets returned home
Starting point is 00:19:41 after being allowed to roam and hunt outside the New Mexico Department of Health said. According to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, septic plague can be treated promptly with antibiotics. Symptoms include the sudden onset of fever, chills, headache and weakness. In most cases, there is also a painful swelling of the lymph node in the groin, armpit or neck areas. So look forward to that. Yeah, looking forward to that one. Plague activity in New Mexico is usually highest during the summer months. I'm sorry? This is news to me. Plague activity in New Mexico. Usually, usually highest during the summer months.
Starting point is 00:20:17 So that kind of implies that there's enough plague activity in New Mexico that you can kind of chart it? Yeah, you can distinguish between normal seasonal plague activity and aberrant plague activity in New Mexico that you can kind of chart it? Yeah, you can distinguish between normal seasonal plague activity and aberrant plague activity. Yeah, but the underlying theme is there is constant plague activity in New Mexico. There's an acceptable level of plague activity in New Mexico. And this is slightly higher. Periodic recurring plague activity in New Mexico. Okay. So it is especially important now to take precautions to avoid rodents and their fleas which can expose you to plague New Mexico. Now you tell me. I was just hanging out all these rats every day. Now you tell me it's bad for me?
Starting point is 00:20:56 I was trying to keep the fleas on me. I fucked up. Did we all do we all see the thing about the first dog that tested positive for COVID-19 in the US has died now of coronavirus? Oh no, I don't like that. God damn. Yeah, so that's cool. It's all good news. All 2020, baby. Woo! You know, like, fucking news stories generally try and round out the story, right? What's that, the inverse period structure, you start specific, you're thia, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, th. the, their, th. their, th. th. th. t. t. t. t. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. t. t. t. try and round out the story, right? What's that? The inverse period structure, you start specific, you go general, and at the bottom, there's something that generally places it in like a large context,
Starting point is 00:21:29 right? The final sentence for this article is, the bubonic plague. The bubonic plague was known as the black death in the middle ages, causing the deaths of morethe bubonic plague. Fun little tid bit, and that's the article. It's right on the tip of my tongue. Did you, there was a thing like last year I think where there was an academic paper published that finally sort of, uh, what's the word I'm looking for?
Starting point is 00:22:01 It found that rats, it found that rats weren't the major cause of the bubonic plague. It was fleas that were carried by the rats. So it exonerated the rats. Looks like we owe an apology to the good rats of the bubonic plague era. Sorry rats. Sats. What? Sorry that was just for Theo. Yeah. And I'm not going to explain it. Thanks Ben. Anytime buddy. Oh boy. So, you know, that's cool. That's cool and good. Yeah. I feel like you can probably give zero brain space to this one. And I mean, I made this decision about COVID-19 before it took off where I was like, nope. This is the one part of the news where I don't think it's going away anywhere and I'm just going to ignore it and I'm definitely wrong about that one. I could be wrong but isn't the
Starting point is 00:22:51 thing with the plague is that it's always out there but we can just treat it now. Am I correct? I think that's it right. I mean yeah they did say just not to worry don don't worry don't worry don't worry don't worry don't worry don't worry the the the the the the the th wo wo wo wo wo wo wo wo wo wo wo wo wo wo wo wo wo wo wo wo wo wo wo that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that the that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the plague I the plague I the plague I the plague I the plague I the tho. I tho. I don't that that that that that that that that that that that did die. But anyway, don't even think about the plague. Don't even worry about the plague. Sorry for bringing this information to your day. Why did we do that? I'm not sure. It's just one guy. Two guys. Two guys. We're four guys.
Starting point is 00:23:15 And then the 35 that are either investigation. Oh no. Let's not. Let's stay away from that and get into something much more sensible. That's right, I'm talking about what friend of the show, Jim's Mowing, Penman, has been up to. Now, we have spoken at length about Jim on a previous episode, entitled Jim's Wet Dome, which is available both on the public feed and the bonus episodes, was originally a bonus episode. We also hit a goal recently on Patreon, where we said, that, that, wee, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th-j-it, th-it, th-it, th-it, th-it, th-it, th-it, th-let let th-let let th-I th-I th-I thi-I th-jjj-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-m, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, thi, thi, thi, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-n was originally a bonus episode. We also hit a goal recently on Patreon where we said, hey if we get to this goal we will get ourselves a copy of Jim's crazed race science book. Which had been taking a while to do because all of the pandemic restrictions and stuff
Starting point is 00:24:06 have affected like opening hours for libraries where they actually store some of these haunted tombs. Yeah, and it's always the race science section that's first to fold. So basically we have instead obtained some digital copies of bio history, which is the Slightly updated in an attempt to obscure some of the more overt race science version of the book and having given it a skim, let me tell you, It doesn't try very hard. So instead of saying that Jews have a high level of restrate, they have a high level of the letter C. Yes. Cool.
Starting point is 00:24:49 See for cool. Don't worry, he's already discussing the barbarian traits of specific societies and how civilizations fall when they become complacent and their populations are replaced by less civilized feelings. So it turns out that it's like a big replacement. What's another word for like very big? Grue, no I can't think of anything. So we are going to dig into that in great detail and then bring you one or possibly more episodes dissecting the inner workings of the mind of the very rich and influential Jim Penman who owns all of the Jim's franchises around Australia so that you,
Starting point is 00:25:35 like us, can be completely haunted every time you see a trailer with Jim's smiling face on the side of it going past. So sinister. And you can know that that man has a severe case of brain poisoning. And would like to trial his, I guess, brain-improving drug on you. So check that episode out and look forward to those other ones coming up. But we do have an update on what he's been up to during the pandemic. This is from the New Daily. Victoria Police have warned that they will crack down hard on Jim's mowing. Finally. This is what every Australian news story sounds like.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Victoria Police have warned that they will crack down hard on Jim's mowing after its founder offered to pay any fines attracted by his franchisees caught breaching Melbourne stage four COVID restrictions. It remains... GIN. GIN. GIN. GON. GNOTT.
Starting point is 00:26:33 That is very naughty. Bad Jim. Bad Jim. Bad Jim. It's not on. It's not on. It remains business as usual for the lawn mowing and gardening service, despite Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews previously saying, quote, there will be no cleaners, there will be no mowing
Starting point is 00:26:49 your lawns under the strict shutdown that runs until mid-September. Dictator Dan Cumming in hard on Jim. In fact, Jim's mumming founder Jim Penman said business demand was so high that the business was signing up double the number of franchisees as did this time in 2019. Quote, we've got so much work and people need jobs, he said. It's been a terrible crisis for the country and I really feel for the people who have been hurt, but for Jim's group, it's been absolutely amazing. Oh, God. So who's to say whether it's bad or not? Imagine saying a sentence like that out loud and not being like,
Starting point is 00:27:26 I sound like a real piece of shit right now. It's like, um, who was, oh, can anybody remember? Um, was it, it wasn't Dick Smith, it was fucking Harvey Norman. Oh, that's right. Yeah, and he was like, hey, look, you know, sure some people are dying, but holy fuck are we selling furniture like hot cakes? It was like everybody wants to buy a big deep freeze for stockpiling So it's actually pretty good when you think about it Everybody was like, gee Harvey, it sounds like you're saying that the deaths of a lot of people don't really matter that much because your business is profiting at an all-time high, he was like no no that's not what I meant. The thing that I said word
Starting point is 00:28:09 for word that's not. I mean it that way. Yeah don't take me out of context like that. You have to put it into context and people like here's the context he's like no no no no not not not that context. Please put it in the context where I don't sound bad, you know. So, Victoria Police Commissioner Shane Patton said it was disappointing to hear someone say that they're going to deliberately flaunt the directions. We'll deal with every incident on a case-by-case basis when we become alerted to it through the police assistance line. He told ABC News Breakfast, the old Nark hotline. The snitch phone.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Quote, we get lots of reports of breaches in terms of mass gatherings, personal breaches, but if that was to occur we will take the enforcement action the public would expect us when you call the snitch hotline. But Mr. Penman said he would not be flouting the Stringen lockdown rules imposed on Melbourne from Thursday. He said the rules on businesses that could stay open included household and ground maintenance, and that his workers were essential to ensure the health and safety of Victorians stuck at home. You can't just be going out there and letting your ankles be tougues by long grass.
Starting point is 00:29:17 You could die. Massive impact on people's health and safety. Well if nobody's going to come to my house and inject my brain with some fluid that Jim found lying around in his garden shed, then how am I going to keep getting my brain fluids? That's true. Gotta keep that brain wet. I'm not going to make them myself. Jim, do you have a nasal spray that I could use? It would perhaps make me smarter, lead to, you know, the survival of my society. Oh, you do? So, Mr. Pemman says that he was following advice from Victoria's Department of Health and Human Services and slammed Dictator Dan for apparently, quote, saying something which is against
Starting point is 00:29:59 the advice of his own department. He continues, there's nothing really more safe than going out and mowing lawns. He might have a bit of a point here. Not the way I do it. Oh, Jim hasn't seen enough movies. There's a lot of scary lawnmower related. There's a lot of scary lawnmower. There is a lot of scary lawnmowers. I'm scared of the lawnmower. Yeah, I feel like I've seen one like somebody got murdered by a lawnmower recently?
Starting point is 00:30:25 Yeah, I feel like I've seen one like that recently too. Oh, it's a new... It might be the lawnmower man. It was the... It was the 2019 Childs Play reboot. Oh. Um, Chuckie got somebody all tangled up in their Christmas lights on the outside of the house, which then started getting fed into a big lawnmower that was going
Starting point is 00:30:46 Which helpfully had a big exposed blade on the front instead of the The regular circular one underneath So I think that probably helped chuckle sort of the same style of lawnmower that film point break His head is almost forced into. Yes, yes, exactly. This has been lawnmower Killings corner. Yes, sort of very similar to the movie brain dead. What's the American version of brain dead dead alive? Dead alive from Peter Jackson Peter Jackson back when he was interested in doing stuff? When he was still allowed to have joy by studio executives. Yep. And there was also, I'm pretty sure someone gets killed by Lormo in Maximum Overdrive.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Yes, that's what I was watching, Maximum Overdrive. God, what a film! Stephen King's adaptation of his own short story, Trucks. It's got Emilio Estez in it. And a guy also gets killed by a Coke machine, which fires cans of Coke at high velocity at his balls and then his skull. One of the best movies I think I've ever seen. It's pretty good, right?
Starting point is 00:31:55 Soundtrack entirely by ACDC, including like the score throughout the movie. Just because Stephen King likes him. You know? So I disagree with your with your thesis here Jim Penman that there's nothing safer than going out knowing a lawn you've just been beaten with facts and logic buddy how does it right he says because you don't have to have contact with the public we have electronic payments you're not seeing people you're not with people you're not near people he said our people can people can travel by car from one job to another. Well, that's fucking novel. Is there anything they can't do? Yes. Not like all the other companies that take like
Starting point is 00:32:35 their lawnmower and everything else on a bus. Oh man. There's no reason for them to come within 10 meters of any memory of the public and what they're doing. So there's no lack of safety. On Wednesday, Mr. Andrews reiterated his view that Jim's mowing was not an essential service under Melbourne's strict virus rules. They are not permitted workers, he said. Unless of course they are providing emergency work. Lawns are not getting hair cut.
Starting point is 00:33:03 We are all getting mowed, people are not getting haircuts, we are all making sacrifices. You aren't getting a hair cut, your house isn't getting a hair cut. Hmm. Do you think, is it your house getting a hair cut or your garden getting a hair cut? So the garden is the hair of the house, so your house is getting a haircut when you mow the lawn? Absolutely, yes. Just let it free. F Fuck mow in the lawn. Society has progressed past the need for lawn. Well, it makes me feel good to mow my lawn. I hope slippery Dan Andrews fronts the crowd with just a dog shit fucking haircut. Just shows the courage of his convictions by looking like absolute fucking shit. He starts to look worse and worse like the news anchors in the Tim Burton's Batman when they don't know, when they don't know which products the poisons the poisons the poisons the poisons the poisons the poisons the poisons the poisons the poisons the poisons the poisons the poisons the poisons are the poisons are their their their to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to feel good good good good to to to to to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel feel to feel feel feel feel feel to feel feel feel to feel to to feel to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their the th the the th tho the the tho the the the the tho. to the the to tho. the to to the to to to to to to to to worse like the news anchors in the Tim Burton's Batman When they don't know which products the poisons are in you know None of the anchors can use makeup or hair stuff
Starting point is 00:33:52 I hope that that's what Dan Andrews starts to look like very quickly So you know according to dictator Dan getting your lawn mode by somebody else is not an emergency service. It's probably not really. They should start putting some ghostbuster style sirens on top of the gyms mowing trailers. Gotta get over there quick. Premier Andrews said it would become a matter for Victoria police if any gyms mowing contractors breached public health rules. Well, libertarian Jim versus big government. I think we all know who's gonna win this. This is the battle for Australia's soul. Authoritarianism represented by Victoria Police,
Starting point is 00:34:37 rugged individualism represented by Eugenicist. That's really what it's all about. And, uh, we're gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back. It's really what it's all about. And we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Hey, thanks for listening. It's Andrew here. To get access to this full bonus episode along with all of our other bonus episodes every
Starting point is 00:34:57 week and help support the show. Head on over to Patreon. to their to. Sign up for five US dollars a month. Bye. Yes, that is Jim Penman, a true doctor of the brain. As far as I know, I think we're going to get into exactly what Jim is and isn't qualified to talk about when we delve a lot further into biohistory because he has, he's
Starting point is 00:35:26 clearly employed the services of like universities, research labs, professors and stuff and it really seems from looking at the book that they all had I would say a fairly limited scope as to what they were getting involved in but I think the main thing was that Jim was funding some of it. as long as the the te to the they were getting involved in. But I think the main thing was that Jim was funding some of it. As long as Jim is funding the research, he can 1,000% find people to get on board and say, yes, Jim, we will help you develop your limitless style IQ raising nasal spray. Tony Paleyoni, a senior lecturer in behavioral neuroscience, says I think basically
Starting point is 00:36:05 Jim has a lot of ideas and I, as a scientist, help to funnel those ideas into testable hypotheses. Something of a funnel man. Funneler myself. Funnel and funnel related services. Jim Penman has a lot of money and as a researcher for hire it is my job to funnel that money. And I say, Gimme Gimme. Yes. I have a PhD and a thing for online poker. But Jim Penman is not the only shady, unqualified doctor around here. Right, here we go. If you find that you are having a little relationship trouble,
Starting point is 00:36:49 just to pick up your telephone and dial it on the double, you call one, eight hundred, three, seven, five, five, five, five, Now you're PAYGIN, Dr. LOOSEAN. Yes. Paging, Dr. LOOSEING. I took your feedback on board, Theo. The theme makes me feel two things. The first is that I am just, I'm very genuinely impressed that you are a very talented man, who's very good at doing these things and I love it when you do them.
Starting point is 00:37:30 The second is the, just the thought of you sitting at your desk in your boyhole recording this. Yep. It's very funny. Like, just a vocal takes,, now I'm doing the high one. Yeah, I've got to wait, I got a way for people to leave the house before I do shit like this. Like they can just hear out in the other room. We want, five, you know?
Starting point is 00:37:53 You know? Oh, you're poor wife. Take a few runs at it. Oh, she was very important to like the feedback process. Oh, okay. I'm I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I'm. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do, th. Do, th. Do, th. Do, th. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do th. Do. Do th. Do th. Do. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to like the feedback process. Oh okay I'm sure she really enjoyed that. Yeah, because we were originally looking at like doing it together B52 style. Oh, nice. I love that. I like it. Fred Schneider kind of thing. But that's where we landed. For Paging Dr. Lucy, a segment in which we look at relationship problems. And some of these are taken from Reddit's Relationship Subreddit, where 100% of the posts are true. That's right, we know it.
Starting point is 00:38:32 100% of the posts are true and real, and that's what makes them fun to talk about. Here's one, which is a very American context. It sure is. 20-year-old female, my 38 year old male fiance, makes excuses for us to leave when the bars go to 21 plus only. We've been together for two years and engaged for three months. Oh no. Two year, oh no. Oh, I didn't even notice that part. Whomp. No. No. Wamp. No. No. No. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh, I didn't even, I didn't even notice that part. Whomp!
Starting point is 00:39:05 No, whomp-wamp. You and your, this 18-year-old and her 36-year-old boyfriend. That's, that's fucked up. It's perfectly legal. Oh no. Perfectly legal. He and my pedophile fiancé. Oh no. Yes, you absolutely nailed that one, Lucy.
Starting point is 00:39:28 This dude has both of his hands up, as he says to her parents. It's perfectly legal. Hey, you know how you can take your lifespan and then fit it again in my life span? Pretty cool. Awesome. So this guy is pretty much my age, right? I was hanging out with a friend of mine recently, and he was talking about his housemate has been in Tasmania for ages
Starting point is 00:39:54 because he was there for work or something when all of the sort of lockdown stuff hit. And he just had to stay there for ages. So it meant that my friend got his whole house to himself for like a couple of months while his friend was still paying rent, which was very nice for him. Nice. Jacking off in every room. Yep. And I was like, what it feels like to do a cum in the laundry. I always wondered. Yeah, the housemaid's back. Yeah. I've never get the chance again. So his friend is back. so his friend is back. he's like, the. Yeah, my my the the the house. the house. the house. the house. the house. the house. the house. the house. the house. the house. the house. the the the the the the th. th. th. th. I. th. th. I. I. th. th. th. th. th. He. th. th. th. th. th. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He oh yeah, how's it all going? He's like, yeah, my housemaid's back, you know, and been hanging out with him and his girlfriend. He was like, it's fine, she's just very young, you know, and his girlfriend's like 20.
Starting point is 00:40:35 And I think, I think we're all sort of the same age. And, um, and this guy was like, yeah, you know, she's a perfectly nice person and everything. It's just, I'm old enough to be a dad. Like, what the fuck do I have to talk to her about? And I thought about it and I went, do you like, tick-talk? And I was, yeah, and I was like, oh no, I also am old enough to be this girl's dad. And in this context, this person who is 36, thi dating and 38 now, which really has some grooming connotations I think we can probably all agree. Yeah, like I just, I can't even begin to picture dating someone where it's like you could have legally been an adult, got a lady pregnant, had a baby, and have a 20-year-old daughter at your age.
Starting point is 00:41:29 It's fine, like if that's what you really want, but I just, I can't even imagine dating someone like five years younger than me. Like when I meet people that are like 21, I, they're a different, they're in a different world. I don't understand any of what's going on in there. They're in a different world. I don't understand any of what's going on in there. Oh man, I did a bar shift last night and they're like there's people coming into a drink that are like 19 or 20 which is perfectly legal. Perfectly legal. But like I'm only fucking 30 right. I'm like nine, ten years older than them and they are fucking alien to me. I'm just staring at these people like it's not right. You shouldn't be here. You should be playing Sega Nintendo. You should be doing something else. You're so little. Don't, what are
Starting point is 00:42:10 you fucking doing? This is the adult world for grown-ups. It's fucking, I can't imagine dating someone like that. Like surely if you had even like a shred of conscience your brain would just be like, this is a gross abuse of power and also it sucks what the fuck are we gonna talk about? What are we gonna do? Just like, I don't know. Would you like to see a classic movie from before you were born, like flubber? Oh man. So this story's gonna go well then.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Yeah, yeah. Usually my age isn't a problem. Yes it is. Since my parents like him and his parents like me. His parents look like fucking Donald Trump's dad, both of them. His parents look like the Nazis from from Raiders Little Lost Ark after they've been melted. The problem comes when we go out with his friends from the law firm. The place we live in.
Starting point is 00:43:05 The place we live in allows underage people in bars as long as they are serving food. At 10 p.m. when the kitchen closes, they cart everyone and it's 21 plus only. There's a normal Tuesday night drink thing he and his partners and their significant others do. I don't drink but I like going. Well you're legally not allowed to in the bar you're in in in in you're in you're in you're in you're in you're in you're in you're in you're in you're in you're to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their. their their. their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to the the to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the. the. thea. to. to. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. thea. thea. thea. you're in. Which is, which is also dumb. Also, a whole other thing. It's very weird. It's still very strange to me.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Goes without saying that we all think it's very stupid that you can live in a country where you are allowed to buy a gun, join the army and kill someone and vote, but you can't buy a beer. Very, very silly. The first few times, oh sorry, so, yeah, she doesn't drink, she likes kind of this thing. The first few times it happened, I thought he was being truthful when he would say at like 9.30 p.m. that he had an early meeting or some sort of excuse.
Starting point is 00:43:56 When it became a pattern, I asked old I was and he said that he'd told them that I was in my late 20s because he didn't know how they'd react. Did he maybe suspect that they would react negatively? Yeah. It could be very, very good either way I just don't want to tell him. Yeah, maybe it'll be too good, you know, it'll be a big problem for me. To be fair to him, he does have a Wednesday meeting early with a long-time client. I brushed it off as something we could deal with, but now we're engaged and he's doing the same thing. I went until we were in the car yesterday before I went redhead on him. I went red head on him. I went red on him. Sure, it's probably some American bullshit. She's like, surprise, dyed her hair red? Bam! Gotcha! I've got red hair now. Pulled off my wig in the car and went redhead mode on him. Um, I told him he had to tell them how old I was. He said it would be a deal that when he got his next job,
Starting point is 00:45:04 which he's currently pursuing, it would be different. He's never not- He goes to work for the child bride factory. Have you got a child bride? Because it'd be weird if you don't. When I get my new job as the social media guy for the Libertarian party, I will tell. I the the'll all say, well it's perfectly legal. It is. He's never not introduced me to anyone as his girlfriend or fiancee, but he won't
Starting point is 00:45:30 acknowledge the fact that I'm 20. The plan is for him to get a job in another city where we will get married and start our family. I worry that the change of location won't cause him to own up to my age. I feel like I'm half a secret sometimes. Do I just blurt out my age at one of the nights out without making him feel like I'm disrespecting him? Can I in some way ensure this ends when we move? No. If part of the plan to make your relationship successful is moving to another city and starting a new life? Something is happening. Something might be a little of. If you need to go into witness protection to keep this going. Maybe just examine the circumstances. Like the only thing I can take away from this is that the guy is
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Starting point is 00:47:28 for some people depending on the context but I feel like in this one if you're hiding your girlfriend's age from your law firm partners. Consistently. It might be something a little bit wrong there. Maybe you should just break up. And the whole started dating at 18 when he was 36. Yeah that's pretty fucked up. That is fucked up. I mean that's, and the whole started dating at 18 when he was 36. Yeah, that's pretty fucked up. That is fucked up. I mean, that's probably like the big fear there is that someone will crunch the numbers, right? They'll be like, oh, yeah. Oh, haven't you guys been to go?
Starting point is 00:47:54 We've been going on these nights out for two years now and you're, how old? two- two old old old old old old old old old old? the the th old old old old th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. Yeah th. Yeah th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th, th, th, th, th, that's that's thate that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. song. Oh no. Oh God. My neighbors have kids who are like the late teen. I think they're like all sort of mid-teens to early 20s kind of thing. And like there's one of them who's around I think 18 or so and she is a child to me. She's the neighbor's kids who live over there. Just the fucking concept of going, I can swing this. Right, it's like once you're older, you're like, that is a child to me.
Starting point is 00:48:30 Yeah, yes, I'm a fucking 36-year-old partner at a law firm. I reckon I can pull this off. I will merely not tell anyone about the teenager that I'm dating. It is a big yikes. Also how are you dating someone you can't go to a bar with? Like how does your relationship work? What are you doing with your evenings? But I mean that's even worse is the fact that they are going to the bar. She's just like sitting there being like... She's not drinking? Can't wait till I'm old enough to do this properly her, like, surely that's going to make you question something in your brain. Yeah, I'm the adult she's being accompanied by tonight. Oh.
Starting point is 00:49:11 Like one of the partners like offering to get around and him just like cutting in and say, she'll have a lemon lime and bitters. Yeah, before she gets a chance to answer. She doesn't even like the taste of beer. All I can say is that one's going to go well. Give it a year. I'm sure everything's going to be great. In a whole new city. Here's another one.
Starting point is 00:49:34 33-year-old female, I've been paying my best friend to tutor my son. Here's the letter. For the last couple of months I've been paying my best friend to tutor my son during the summer since there were no summer programs available due to Dund da da da COVID-19. What? She's a... what? Haven't heard of it. A foreboding COVID-19. She is a professional tutor who does this for a living and I was paying her $75 an hour twice a week. The first day went really well. I had really good feedback from both her and my son, and I was happy with my decision to hire her, So I backed off and let her do her thing. It wasn't until recently my son asked me why she comes over to tutor since he couldn't go to summer school this year. He said all she does is tell me to read one of the kiddie books. I've already read while she plays on her phone the toynene. I the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I tha. I tha. I tha. I tha. I tha. I tha. tha. tha. tha. tha's tha's tha. tha's the. tha's tha's tha's tha tha tha tha tha the's the's the's the's the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. tha's tha's tha's tha's thae. tip. tipe. tipee. tipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee' thae. thato hear this so I checked the doggy monitor which doubles as a security camera. Nope. I'm a do we think this is a
Starting point is 00:50:33 I'm trying to picture what this could be is this like a camera that's set up to see when what the dogs doing when you're not home. Yeah people have these cameras that see what their dogs are doing and it's like funny internet content but there's's no reason to have it on in the room while your friend is tutoring your son unless you're suspicious. So nobody thinks it could be like a cybernetic camera in the dog's eye? That would be cool. Hmm. Does double the security camera? Yeah. When my dog looked at the intruder embarked at them I got crisp clear HD footage to show the police. Oh no, I know, it's like making little zooming noises.
Starting point is 00:51:09 It's weird. What was he dog buzzing? Was he dog-busy-dog? Dog's asshole. It appears to be its own. Incredible. Uh, so I pulled the HD capture card out of my dog and checked out of footage and sure enough she was on her phone the whole time and not even talking to him. It's so rough. I feel betrayed by this oddly enough and I feel like I've been ripped off but also
Starting point is 00:51:35 very strange. She's helped me get through some really tough times in the past so I do value her friendship but I'm really upset by this and I feel like I was taken advantage of. I think that's kind of valid, to be honest. It's definitely valid. I think there's a lot going on here. Firstly, I don't think you just happen to have her on your doggy monitor, like you're looking. Yeah, that's so awful. You're straight up looking for what's going on. And I don't know, the fact that she's charging you full price for tutoring your son, I feel
Starting point is 00:52:05 like maybe your friendship's not that great and maybe you're not actually best friends and maybe she doesn't like you. Maybe you don't like each other, you know? I feel like there's a lot more going on in this friendship. This isn't normal. I told her I need to put the tutoring on hold, but I didn't explain why I didn't explain't explainrying to convince me to keep doing it. Yeah, I want to hire a different tutor, but I'm worried she'll find out and I'm torn whether or not to tell her why I stopped her tutoring. So what is the solution to your friend scamming you out of $150 a week by sitting on
Starting point is 00:52:37 the couch and looking at her phone instead of tutoring you son? I think you have to respect it. It's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's the the the the to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thoing thoing thoing thi thi thi thi thoing you's thoing you's thoing you're thoing thoing. I's thoing. I's thoing. I's thoing. I's thoing. I's tooing. I's tooing. I's to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi thi to thi thi thi to thi to thi to to to to to toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooing. I toing. I think you have to respect it. It's somewhat kink shit, I'm sorry. It's gonna go, damn you got me. Damn, you really got me there. Yeah. It's a prank of the century is taking a few grand from me. Classic pranks. I don't know why this person can't say like, this this comes across to me as like the woman not knowing how to say, hey I watched footage on my hidden camera that I took me you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you th. I you you me. I me. I the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their. I their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I to to to to to to to took took took took took took took took. I took took to took. I took to toe toe to to to to to to to to the. I to to me is like the woman not knowing how to say, hey I watched footage on my hidden camera that I took of you not doing anything. I checked the toilet cam and I don't think you're doing a great job to be honest. It's really hurtful. Yeah I can just see out of the corner of the frame you're not doing anything in the other room. I'm sure I'm sure she's exaggerating. I'm sure it was like she was on her phone a couple of times or something. That's the vibe I'm getting from this.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Well, so the thing that prompted this in the first place was her talking to her son who said, yeah, she doesn't do shit. We don't actually do lessons or anything. Well, kids lie. That's rule number one. Huge liars. Kids love fibs. I do. Fibbing little motherfuckers. So I don't know why she couldn't just say, hey, my kid keeps saying, I don't know what the point is in this because we don't do any tutoring. Can you take me through what you're doing?
Starting point is 00:53:57 Can I see some kind of results from it or whatever? It's definitely like a nice way to broach it to be like, hey, littlemy doesn't feel like he's he's really getting anything out of it what sort of stuff are you doing running through the old curriculum here yeah there's a way to do it where you know an asshole without your hidden camera that you've definitely set up for this specifically can't mention the hidden camera probably there probably means you shouldn't have a hidden camera on your friend. That's so fucking gross. It's so gross. It's pretty fucked up. I don't like that at all. Awful. So you're both terrible. You don't need to spy on your dog either. Your dog is napping. No, just literally leave. Just five percent of the day, the dog is sleeping.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Yeah. If you come home and your favorite pair of shoes have been chewed up, it's probably the dog. I don't know if you need the footage. What do you need to see? It's all for the content. It's all for the gram. That's what I think. You hope in one time your dog does a funny thing and then it gets three billion dollars to buzzfeed. And then viral hog. And then you can quit your job. And earns a thousand million dollars from that same video.
Starting point is 00:55:05 Hey, you remember, speaking of viral hog, Pete Wentz? Remember a while ago we were talking about a press release from, a press release from the company that also has like the, the fail army thing? Uh-huh. And it was like, hey, we've made a deal with all of the places in Australia that have like the, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th th th th th th th thus, like, thus, thus, thus, thus, the the, the, thus, the the, the, the, the, their, speaking, speaking, speaking, speaking, speaking, speaking, speaking, speaking, speaking, the, speaking, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi.ei.a, speaking, speaking, speaking, speaking, speaking, speaking, speaking, speaking, their, their, their, their, the. And it was like, hey, we've made a deal with all of the places in Australia that have like those stupid digital jukebox things in pubs and gyms and stuff. Oh yeah. And it's going to have like Fail tv.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Oh wow. So you guys know I'm big into, I'm big into Plex library that I do all the stuff with and they recently added a feature which is a whole bunch of live streaming TV channels. This is not a paid endorsement for Plex but it's fucking awesome. They have a 24-hour Alien Documentaries Channel on there. It is fucking sick. Yeah, and so that's the thing. They have they've put on all these channels, and I assume that basically what's happened is that they have made some kind of deal with whoever licenses these things, including whoever licenses the Fail Army Channel, because there is a 24-hour-a-day Fail Army channel on my TV now.
Starting point is 00:56:18 Oh, I have gone, sort of gone all the way around on fail compilations of just being like this is the tackiest, dumbest shit in the world and then I will have one 19th of a joint and watch a fail video and just have the time of my life. So good. We just watch tik-tocs of like people dying inside all day long. It's pretty good. Oh my, Ben, there's a channel on there that's like nothing but game shows. Oh, yeah, that's the good shit. So this is the thing, like me and Elna were watching a bunch of this stuff and she was like, I feel like this has given me this whole perspective into like the American watching cable
Starting point is 00:56:54 experience. Oh, they're actually being stuff on TV, a foreign experience to the Australian? Yeah, but also, like, in Australia Australia I think most people particularly people our age growing up Would have had like free to wear TV channels and there's You know however many of them that were at the time five. Yeah, and so you know we have to explain to to our kids and stuff if you like to show you You had to wait until Thursday at 730 p.m. them. thir the thireat. their tb. the today. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. the. t. the. the. the. the. the the the the the the the the their. their. their. their. their their their. the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the then be in the house and watch it. 930 p.m. Thursday Stargate, bam, that was me. Did your paper TV guide? Oh, so good. You'd circle stuff in it. And so there were, we never had Fox tel growing up. So Fox tel for any non-Australian listeners is the Fox owned, basically like, satellite TV, cable, equivalent kind of thing in Australia. thrl. their, so their, so their, so their, and their, and th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and their, and their, and, and, and, and the, and the, and the, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they. And, they.................... the........... the... the...... And, the. And, the. And, thing in Australia. So it had a whole bunch of channels and it was it was always very exciting when you're a kid if you go if you like went
Starting point is 00:57:47 to somebody else's house and they had Fox tell. Or like staying at a hotel that had like five channels or whatever was like me watching the Discovery Channel just being like holy shit people can watch this all the time this is wild. You would always be your friend's house that had FoxTel. It's a dream. Yeah, so that was always very exciting. And I don't know if anyone had the same experience as me of like moving out of home and then getting Fox tell at some point or moving in with someone who had Foxtel. And when it's actually on all the time, you're like, oh wait a minute, this is dog shit. this is dog shit. It's the same two-hour blocks of stuff played over and over again. Oh, it's just the same shit all day long, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:25 And 40% of it is commercials for stuff on that channel or whatever. Whereas this stuff is like, this stuff is insanely specific. There's a whole channel. It's just the boat channel. It's just like stuff about different boats. Oh, it's so great. It's so great. There's a whole bunch of channels that are just music videos, which is actually cool.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Like, it's hard on YouTube to just say, just play me like three hours of music videos in a particular genre. It tries to sort of auto playlist the thing and it goes off in its own direction. There is an entire channel of just yacht rock music videos on this thing and it goes off in its own direction. There is an entire channel of just yacht rock music videos on this thing. And it fucking rules. But we were watching game shows and we watched a game show called Cram. And so in this game show what they do is make people memorize a whole bunch of specific information like they're studying for a test and they then quiz them about this in particularly stressful environments. But what I
Starting point is 00:59:31 didn't realize until like halfway through the episode right is because they're doing stuff while getting quizzed like running on a gigantic treadmill or like throwing playing cards through like targets, you know, six feet away. I was like, these motherfuckers know how to throw playing cards? What's that all about? But that's one of the things you have to learn. So they teach you how to do stuff like throw playing cards or balance on a weird little teetotter. And they also make you like remember, you know, they'll make you memorize like a list of 40 famous couples from old sitcoms and stuff like that. And then they quiz you about it while you're doing the card-throwing stuff.
Starting point is 01:00:14 But when they teach you all of this stuff, is in the preceding 24 hours during which they keep you up the entire night. Oh no. Shit! So you basically sign onto this thing, you stay up the the the the the the the the the the the entire night. Oh no. Shit. So you basically sign on to this thing, you stay up all of the prior night memorizing a whole bunch of facts and information and learning weird skills that you have to perform on demand on the show while being quizzed about the stuff you're supposed to remember. That rules. Every game show should be something indistinguishable from MK Ultra. Oh, absolutely. Got to be like unsealed CIA documents should be something indistinguishable from MK Ultra. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Gotta be like unsealed CIA documents should be the formulation of how you should make entertainment. Germans, like getting this, stealing this information. Then they made them run on a treadmill. And then the final segment of this thing, right? After you've done all of this really stressful thing. They kill you with a gun. You've been awake all night. No, no, no, they they they they they they get they get they get they get they get they get they get they get they get they get they get they get they get they get they get they get they get they get they get they get they get they get they get their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. the. thea. thea. thea. thea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. thea. thea. thea. the done all of this really stressful thing they've been kill you with a gun you've been awake all night no no no no they get these two really big comfy beds and both of the contestants lie down in a big comfy bed with an eye mask on and they dim the lights and then a lady sits there in between them with a book and reads a bunch of information out
Starting point is 01:01:23 but like in a really soothing voice. She just sits there going, the blue whale is capable of retaining oxygen for up to two weeks. And they do this for like five minutes in like this dim room with, you know, lying in a really comfy bed. And then at the end of that time, they turn on all the lights and blast like air raid sirens. Oh my the the the the the their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their in. their in. their in. their in their in their in their in their in their in their in their in their in their in their in their in their in their in their in their in their. their. their their. their their their their their their their their. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. their their their their their in. their in. It. It is. It's. It's. It's. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's te. It's te. It's te. It's te. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's their their their their the end of that time they turn on all the lights and blast like air raid sirens. Oh my god. And make you come over and do something stressful
Starting point is 01:01:51 while they ask you to remember all the stuff that this lady just gently whispered to you while you possibly fell asleep. This is psychotic. Sounds great. It sounds so healthy. I can't wait to watch that. It was so good check out Cram. I would also love to just just just just just just just just just just just just just to just just just just just just just just just to just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just like to just like to just s like to just s like like like to s, s, s, s like like like like like like s, s, s, s-s. I to watch some some s-s. to to to to to to the the the the the the th. I s- like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like. I s. I s. I s. I s. I s. I s. I s. I s. I s. I s. I s. I s. I s. I s. I s. I s. I s. I s. I s. I s. I s. I s. I s. I s. I s. I s like like like like like like like like like like s. I s-s. I s-s. I s-s. I s-s. I s-s. I'm s-s. I'm s-c-c-s. I'm s-c-c-c-c-s. I'm th. I'm wait to watch that. It was so good. Check out Cram. I would also love to just watch someone get waterboarded, you know? Entertainment to me. That's waterboarding. That is just a little taste of waterboarding.
Starting point is 01:02:17 I recommend it highly. Now, before we run out of time, we're going to have to get in one more new segment. And Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben, to, to, to, to, to, the, to, the, the, to, th, to, to, th, tho, tho, tho, tho, than, thi, thi, thi, tho, to, to, to, tho, to, to, to, to, to, tho, tho, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the, the the the the the the the to have to get in one more new segment. And Ben's giving me something here that I have not listened to at all. It is a stinger for this new segment. That's it, all right. I got myself. Thank you Ben for this stinger to bean to bar.
Starting point is 01:02:45 That's right. Bean to bar. Would you like to explain this for us, Ben? I would love to. So this is a segment inspired by a friend of the show Valerie who in episode 157, Italian Dunma sent in a practice question from the Pennsylvania bar exam for us to do, sight unseen, and I thought, what's more fun than passing the Pennsylvania Bar Exam is passing all of them?
Starting point is 01:03:14 So the format of this is I provide for you a sample question from a state's bar exam, and then you answer it correctly. Are you prepared to do that? Yes. Using our extensive cross-jurisdiction legal knowledge I think this is going to be fine. This is the preamble here. Get ready because there's a lot of information I'm going to need you to memorize this. Cram style almost. Here we go. So from the February 2020 New York York State Bar Exam, a man and a woman were waiting in line at a public park for tickets to attend an outdoor performance of a play. They soon
Starting point is 01:03:49 began arguing about sports, and as their conversation became more animated, the man began shouting at the woman and poking her shoulder with his finger. As the man poked harder and harder, the woman responded by punching the man in the nose. The woman was arrested at the scene in charge with battery. What? The trial? The prosecutor intends to elicit the following testimony from an eyewitness who was standing in the line. Before the man arrived, I saw the woman talking to a friend. The friend said to the woman, you and I have waited so long for these tickets, if anyone annoys us today, they will not be seeing this play, they'll be going to the hospital. The woman nodded her head and gave the friend a thumbs-up signal. I recognize the woman. I live in her neighborhood and I probably see her at least twice a week.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Every time I see her, she is arguing with people, acting out and generally causing problems. Now, assuming that the eyewitness is permitted to testify for the prosecution for counsel plans to, one, cross-examine the eyewitness about her five-year-old conviction for shoplifting, a crime punishable by a maximum sentence of six months in jail, and two, cross-examined the eyewitness about a letter recently written by the eyewitness to the man saying, thanks for 10 years of a great friendship. Uh-huh. The jurisdiction rules, uh, the jurisdiction's rules governing crimes and affirmative defenses follow common law principles. The evidence rules of the jurisdiction are identical to the federal rules of evidence. The woman's friend is unavailable and will not testify at trial.
Starting point is 01:05:18 Assuming that the prosecution proves the elements of battery, can the woman establish a common law affirmative defense based on these facts? Explain. I mean this isn't a multiple choice one. Nope. I mean I think she definitely has some self-defense defense unfortunately based on the fact that he physically provoked her first and I don't feel like the the cross-examination issues about the letter about friendship and stuff will come into play. What a lovely letter to write to someone. Yeah that's the I would love to receive that letter just thanks for 10 years of a great friendship. I won't even click yes on the Facebook things are like hey would you like to auto post ten years of friendship with literally your best friend?
Starting point is 01:06:08 I'm just like immediately looking for the X button to move it off. Absolutely not. No, that would be embarrassing. I'm not going to gush about this. I mean, I know she has a good lawyer, but I think she probably has some kind of defense claim. in that scenario, but anyone else? I think that he assaulted her before this even began. Right, so she has a self-defense claim. Thea? I don't understand the question. I'm not sure whether me making a response to this will also put me in legal danger. It might. It might. It will. I'm getting the sense that these
Starting point is 01:06:42 bar questions have a lot of like irrelevant information that are not really important to what the actual defense would be. I think you are meant to weed that sort of shit out. There's a lot in here. There's a lot going on. So we're going to say the woman can establish a common law affirmative defense based on these facts. Yes. All right. the defense, to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the, thoom, thoom, the thoom, the thoom, the thoom. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thoom... thoom. thoome, the.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e. th. th. the answer here At common law the defense of self-defense will act as justification what would otherwise
Starting point is 01:07:07 For what would otherwise be an offense if the defendant reasonably believes force is necessary to protect herself from physical harm by the victim Defense is usually not available to one who is an initial aggressor in an interaction in this case The man and woman had been arguing about sports when the man started poking his finger at her shoulder Although the parties were previously exchanging words. This was the first first first first first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th o' th o' tho tho thus thus thoes thoes tho tho tho tho tho tho the tho the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho the the the the the the the theeeeuuuuuuuu. thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo the the the sports when the man started poking his finger at her shoulder. Although the parties were previously exchanging words, this was the first use of force in the interaction, so the woman would probably wouldn't be considered the initial aggressor. He started it. He started it. He started it. The woman may have reasonably believed that some force that some force was necessary to prevent the man from continuing to poke her, quote, harder and harder and harder, although it's unclear if a punch in the face was necessary. That said, it may be reasonable non-deadly force
Starting point is 01:07:45 depending on how hard the man was poking her. It also will matter whether or not the woman actually sincerely believed such force was necessary for the facts did not indicate her motives. She also likely has no duty to retreat under the common law as noted above. Thus, the woman has a potentially meritorious defense of self-defense. Assuming the punch was reasonable force to prevent herself from being continually poked by the man. Congratulations, you just passed the bar exam for a second
Starting point is 01:08:14 state. I'm going to be like Frank Abignalee from Catch Me If You Can't, just going around, passing the bar exam for shit and g and giggles. Wait, did he actually pass? I thought the whole thing was he was just faking all those credentials. No, at the end of the, I think at the end of the movie because he pretends to be a doctor, he winds up like an emergency room, he passes himself off as an airline pilot to hitch rides on lots of planes. Never see, sounds good. And he becomes a, oh, it's the ultimate Scams Rock movie. Scams Rock! Jesus fucking Christ. It's the official Scams Rock podcast.
Starting point is 01:08:57 Yeah. He... But at the end of the movie, because Tom Hanks's character, an FBI agent, has been pursuing him for years and says, you know, I've got to know, how did you pass the bar exam in whatever Southern state it was, and he says, I just studied for it. Oh, he just went past it. Well, you guys are clearly smarter than him because you just guessed. Congratulations. Congratulations. I think you just keep doing that. him because you just guessed. Congratulations. We're all lawyers now. I think you just keep doing that.
Starting point is 01:09:26 A bunch of guesses in a row. Don't you have a law degree, Lucy? I have almost a law masters that I just never finished because I didn't really want to. It's just a bunch of useful information that I will never use, apart from for this so I'm really appreciated. Great, that's why th th to be a recurring theme. I don't know what else you guys studied but I will not be catering to them. This is this is what kills me about Frank Abingnawe is he became one of the most notorious impostors claiming to have assumed no fewer than eight identities including an airline pilot a physician
Starting point is 01:10:02 a US Bureau of Prisons Agent and a lawyer, and escaped from police custody twice, one from a taxiing airliner and once from a US federal penitentiary, all before turning 22. Oh God, I've done nothing with my life. Yeah, listen, we've all achieved things. It was like passing himself off as a pilot when he was like 17. I could not like pass myself off as an like adult in society at 17, let alone as like a competent pilot. So good. Anyway, this has been the recommendation for the Steven Spielberg film, Catch me if you can.
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