Boonta Vista - EPISODE 198: One Ben Minimum II: The Benchelor (Feat. Ben Jenkins)

Episode Date: May 9, 2021

SYDNEY FOLKS: Check out the special Star Wars themed Dragon Friends show at The Comedy Store, this Wednesday, May 12th https://www.comedystore.com.au/event/dragon-friends-may-the-twelfth-be-with-you/ Who will receive the Golden Rose? Free To A Good Home’s Ben Jenkins attends the Week Of Bens for a Mother’s Day special about crypto scams, swimming pool fraud, and the world’s most terrifying pranks. Check out Free To A Good Home: http://freetoagoodhomepodcast.com/

Hello and welcome to Bundavista episode 198. Our week-long quest to replace Ben who is lured by a hunter into a snare by leaving a book entitled bisexual Bigfoot. None of us can reach him to cut him down. So he's going to be up there for a while. That only leaves one option, a little show we like to call the Benshler. I'm your host, Theo, and I haven't watched a single reality TV show since the first season of the Australian Big Brother. Uh-huh. We have a Big Brother? We spend the week stripping away the privacy of the contestants, getting their personalities and relationships. Then at 10 p.m. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. the. th. the. th. th. th. th p.m. they're like, yeah, all right, it's we know what you want. It's time for you to jack off. It's jackoff time. It's jackoff time. And that was on the same channel with the same host, Big Brother After Dark. You remember that? Or it's like, hey, yeah. Let's check

out what hot dogs has to say about. Hey thought it was still a griddle-caline. Maybe. I mean, the woman's got rain. She could do it all. Sure. Her just somberly kind of on a big brother after dark, like shaking her head at the turkey whipping incident. That was a national scandal. I recall that the Prime Minister waited on that. I could have that wrong, but I have a memory that somebody asked the PM what he thought at the time.

And he was not for it, which is good. There wasn't a lot going on at that time. For his foreign listeners, there was a turkey slapping incident on our Big Brother program. I think Turkey slapping is also also that that that that that that that that that that that that that is also is also is also that is also also also also also also also also also also also also also also also also also also also also also also also also also also also that is also that is also that's thoen. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. th. th. the the the the their their their their their their they.ooooo.o. I have their their their the the the the thooo. I have tho. I think you're going to need to go further than that, Lucy, because I think turkey slapping is... Dig in, is also an Australianism. Is it? Well, whatever Americans call hitting someone in the face with your penis? Which is, like, it was... It's funny. It's just an Australian thing. It's one of those things like, I think at the time I feel like, I was, I was like, I was, I was like, th. It was, th. It was, th. It was, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, thi, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a the, it's, it's, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the the the, is the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the. It's, the. the. the. the. the. the. the time it was like, at the time I feel like

there was debate about it. Which is so strange to me because it's quite textbook sexual assault. Well I believe the person who did it on the show described it as quote, mucking around. Yeah, right. Yeah, and I remember that we as a nation kind of grappled with that. We were like, is it just my... Is it fine to sexually assault someone? Who can say?

What a show? What a show? What a show? What a show? And can I also confirm, the incident caused Big Brother up late to be canned for the then Prime Minister John Howard calling for the entire show to be cancelled. Grappling with the big issues in Australia. At least he was on the right side of history about that.

Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, you win some, you lose some. The guns and the turkey's lapping. Yeah. I remember also, Howard being asked about the episode of The Simpsons where they go to Australia which was like crazy big news for us over in Australia and I remember him being like upset about it and and with some like with some morning program like on radio saying something and I remember thinking this is not a great moment for our nation. It's it's so weird that like currently Australia occupies the ending of the movie the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the that like currently Australia occupies the

ending of the movie The Prestige and spoiler alert to whoever cares about Christopher Nolan movies but just where our prime ministers are just being completely like continually murdered and then replaced from like a teleport device. But John Howard was like the he was he was Prime Minister through my entire childhood. I was in year seven when that Australian Simpson's episode came out, because I remember being incensed because I was like this horrible little year seven, being like, well actually America has corporal punishment. We don't.

So the reason is actually not funny. And then he's still, he's still fucking Prime Minister during Big Brother Turkey Slap incident, which was like I was, I remember that because I was like high in someone's basement talking to the, talks about it, like 2 a.m. And there's like a lot of years in between those two points. Do you know what I think about John Howard, which is really unfair.

When I said this on Twitter, I included Gillard because he didn't want people to get angry at me, but I don't, I think she doesn't count in this, in that I think he's the last Prime Minister for whom being Prime Minister didn't ruin their life. It just pulled the ripcord. Like, why, yeah. Yeah. And Gillard, maybe not, but I kind of think so, has had their life ruined by being the Australian Prime Minister, every single person. I wonder if that's anything to do with like,

maybe that's sort of the point where we can demarcate like different approaches to it in that, clearly for people like Julia Gillard and like even Tony Abbott and stuff. There are people who have had this expectation that they would continue to have some kind of public life afterwards. Like they, you know, they would continue to be like ambassadors for things, and public faces of stuff while everybody goes, fuck off. We all fucking hate you. I think a lot has in some ways done that.

I think she's like, of all the people, she's just been like, well I'll just do my own thing. I mean I think it also helps as I think former guests on the show J.I. Hennessy has said it helps that Tony Abbott has no inner life. Yeah he's just right he just goes back to his glass tank between interviews. I think if he does have a sort of inner monologue it's like a Pokemon where he just says his own game over over again. Tony Abbott. Lick in his the the the the their th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi he he hea hea he has hea, I hea hea hea hea hea he a he a he a he a he a he a he a he a he a he it's like a Pokemon where he just says his own game over and over again. Tony Abbott, toe abet. Licking his own eyeballs. How are you guys? It's Mother's Day. It is Mother's Day.

It's Australian Mother's Day. I only discovered that there are two, at least two different Mother's Days. America's the same. They got a different Father's Day. Are you serious? What what what what what what the the the they's, it they's, they's, they's, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thus, th, th, thus, th, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to thi, thi, thi, thii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the fuck? I think that's right. That doesn't seem right. That's it's like how there's two kind of billions. That to me is just... It's weird stuff. It's it's one of the... Whenever I think... We've got to decide on the billions. It's a number. It's a number. It's like, oh you know Americans have a different nine? Like... thii thiii. tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to to to thi, to to thi. to to to thi. to thi, to to thi, thi, it's like, to to to thi, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's to me, it's to me, it's to me, it's to me, it's to me, it's to me, it's to me, it's to me, it's to me, it's to me, to me, to me, to me, to me to me, to me to me, to me to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, thi. thi. to me, thi. to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, about this, I get really incensed. Oh, by the way, I'm Ben Jenkins.

Yes, sir. We are of course here with our next, and that's been the big brother riff. Great, great job. Yes, and we are of course here with our next potential, Ben, Ben, Ben, the pressure is on. We need to make a decision. We need a new Ben for this week, this week only. That will be back to the old bed because I think he'll have slimmed his way out of the hunter's snare. Yeah, he emits a kind of gooey slime when he's distressed. So I think he can be threatened. You can rely on him being back. Yeah, and a pheromone like those caterpillars to kind of scare away at this.

So I'm the second Ben. I'm the second Ben you've had. The third Ben including the original Ben, the OG Ben. Are we just getting a prestige? Are they going to be just rows of tanks of former Ben Ben on this podcast host? No, I think we kept the original Ben and the you're sort of like Ben MK2 and Mk3 in the tanks, okay great. Sort of end of alien resurrection. Is this possible that this could end with me not in a tank?

No, well, this will end with you kind of moaning, kill me. And then we'll put you out of your misery with a gigantic flame thrower or whatever it is. That's nice. Yeah, well you know it is nice I do want that for you. My wife has has her mother's day presence like that's fine. That's it's sorted. And when we're done with the flame thrower what's left? Straighten the tank. We'll put the remnants back in there. No, you can, you may come out of this alive, but um, how do you feel about being able to talk about Bigfoot's asshole, read a bunch of shipping reports without making any jokes, and also being the legal representative of our continuously defamatory podcast? All of this sounds terrific. Okay, well, we'll see how it goes. I'd love to do that, plus Tank. You guys had Ben Russell before who people often confuse us because we're both

Ben's in comedy who are short and kind of look the same I think. I think we, I think we, I think we look similar. It is nice that you guys, one grew a mustache and one didn't. That was a completely conscious decision to discern the two of you. Theo, if I wanted to grow a mustache I could do whatever. Yeah, me, I have to admit. When I, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, to, th, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to, to, to, th, thi, thi, the their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, to, too.e. tooea, tooe. tooe. tooe. tooe. tooe. too, maybe that's the important thing. I have to admit, when, yeah, when I had seen a few sketches with Ben Russell in them not too long ago, and I, like just in passing, and I thought, oh, has Ben Jenkins grown a mustache? And earlier this week, Ben said, I have booked two Ben Russell and Ithe show, Ben Jenkins and Ben Russell, and I went, wait a minute. That's a different guy. Yeah, you're like, holy shit, this is gonna be on the exam.

I'm gonna even follow this. Yeah. This has happened before, but in a really great way, where there's this, I won't name them, but there's this quite unhinged comedian, who I once I think he was like, I think he was going Naz over like some thing for being Muslim. And I kind of jumped in and was like, shut the fuck up with something. I don't remember what it was.

But like he was like, I think it was one of those like horrible things where like there had been a terrorist attack and this comedian was just like, what do you think about that, Naz? And it was like, I imagine he's not thrilled about this. Like, it was, anyway, it was really bad. So I told him to get fucked, but that's like the only interaction that we've had. And then one night Ben was at the comedy festival, festival club having a lovely beer, and this this this this this this this comic this comic this comic this comic this comic this comic this comic th came came came came came came came came the comic the comic the comic the comic the comic the comic the comic to fist fight him. It really escalated like to the point where like Ben was like,

to the point where like Ben was like, I'm gonna have to fight this guy. And then he was like, no no wait, because he said something about like, oh you're fucking on there on Twitter all the time, and Ben Russell was like, I'm not really on Twitter. Oh, fuck, I want that guy. Exactly. I was safely in Sydney.

That happened to me once as a team. I was out on the town with me mates. And we were in some like nightclub and this guy has come up to me and gone, right, you're fucked. And I went, huh? And he was like with a group of guys, and they guy has come up to me and gone, right, you're fucked. And I went, huh? And he was like with a group of guys, and they all looked very intent on doing violence to me. Sure. And then my friends saw this and also came over and immediately started sizing these guys up.

Uh-huh. And I went, just one second. What's going on? And the guy went, what's the deal? Yeah, and he went, and he went, you've been fucking with our friend, Bruce. And I said, am I Bruce or is the other guy Bruce? I'm not Bruce. I don't know a single person in the world called Bruce. The shark in finding Nemo was called Bruce. Could they have been referring to the shark from Finding Nemo? Maybe.

I don't think the movie was out then, so probably not. And I asked for clarification and we quickly came to the understanding that I was not the person that this guy thought I was. And he said to his friends, oh it's okay it's the wrong guy. And they just boarded off? And we all just went off about our evenings. You know? The danger is that when they get the, when they angry up the blood,

they have to fight somebody. Yeah, yeah. Well, fortunately it wasn't me. Yeah. You're strange. You all have strange. Andrew reset the comic scales of this of course because recently his wife said that guy with the hat on over there is hitting on me or whatever and you just went straight up to her fucking slapped him and it was the wrong guy it was the wrong guy oh my god oh that's terrible anyway we can't go into that

again because it's 12 minutes and we haven't got to the same article I'm also here with Lucy and she's holding her golden rose or whatever whatever it is. oh oh that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that that's that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that that that that that that that that that th that th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Oh th. Oh th. th. th. thi thi the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the that the the the the 12 minutes and we haven't got to the same article. I'm also here with Lucy and she's holding her golden rose or whatever. Yes, the classic golden rose on the Ventula. Will she, will she offer it to the single contestant? I'm confused on the rules of this program. It's real clear to me, but we don't have time to go over them. Lucy, what do you need from a replacement, Ben McLean? What really would seal the deal for replacing our dear boy Ben? I'm just more into, I'm into quantity over quality, you know. More, more Ben, this is what I'm after. We need to organize an all-Ben

episode to. I probably have less mass than Ben. So sorry. I have less beard and less hair. Yeah. So pound for pound I'm the lesser Ben. But more concentrated, concentrated Ben. Yeah. It sounds like what we're all looking for is more of a multiplicity kind of situation. Oh yeah. Yeah, as many Ben Russell, dear boy, Ben McLean, and Ben Williams, who apparently won the first season

of Big Brother. What? Perfect. Get him on. Get him on. Whoever he is now. If you can book him. If we can book.

If we can afford the fee. And finally, of course, is Andrew facing away from us in his massive swivel chair, which very rude. Andrew, what would make you turn your chair around for bed and keeping it like this is an audio medium so it doesn't really matter? Are we mixing this up with like the X factor at this point? No, no, what is?

This is very clear in my mind. It's the Benjula. At some point, I am going to turn around and announce the special ingredient of the episode. That's right, with tears running down your face. Did I tell you guys that I've worked in reality before? I've worked on two reality shows. It was when Moses was just born. He was like a newborn.

That's a perfect combination for great mental health. Yeah, we needed work. We needed money because An knew wasn't working. Yeah, babies are fucking expensive. Oh man, they like, they're like rubies and gold and yeah. I worked on, I've worked on two of them and they're, I don't think I could do it full time because I think it would destroy my mind, but it's, they're super interesting. The people who, the people who produce reality are like really smart in an incredibly specific way. It's like, try to think of an analogy where it's like, it's some, imagine someone who's like

the best in the world at like darts or something. Like it's just, they've, they've, they've been matched. They've like minmaxed their, their skill sheet to like, anyway, they're really really, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're really, they're really, they're really, they're really, they're really, they're really, they're really, to like, anyway, they're really smart and a really specific right and they're experts in human frailty is what I discovered. Oh, upsetting. That's a skill you want to have. Yeah, it's really interesting. Anyway, so that's the workplace. Yeah, why do they call it reality TV?

Why do they call it reality TV when it's all fake? Good news. They should you know. They should. They should. So that's right, only 15 minutes in and we have managed to introduce Ben Jenkins from Freedom of a Good Home. Have a better thing to do on Mother's Day.

Not Mother's Day. Let me say the name of his podcast. Freedom of a good home. to a Good Home. Free to a Good Home. I'm going. That is the name of my podcast. That is the name of the podcast that I do. Not the one that you do. That is terribly true. So seeing as you are sitting in on this edition of the Benchler to see how you go on our regular segments. Yeah. Let's start you off with an addition of Scam Watch. Warning, warning, someone has successfully or unsuccessfully attempted a scan and must be judged.

This is Scam Watch. Hey, it's Scam Watch. So we check out some scams, and then we grade the scams. Let me please explain the we grade the scams. Let me please explain the grading system to you, Ben. Please. So we have kind of a three sliders, maybe on a 0 to 10 lycote scale kind of thing, you know? Sure.

So the first is, who's the victim of the scam? Is it a victimless scam, like say you're just stealing from an insurance company? Yeah. Or is there very clearly a victim that shouldn't be the victim? Then there's like how original the concept is and like how how bold you have to be to attempt it. And finally there was the execution. This is a third criteria that we've out of recently. How successful you were in attempting to do this thing. Okay. So I was doing my trolling for scams recently and was thinking who are the kind of people who would fall for scams and luckily there's a new word going around town and that word is crypto. Oh yes. Do you own any crypto,

I own zero crypto. Beautiful That is a requirement for being on. If you gave me a day, a whole day, and said you don't have to do anything but attain a cryptocurrency, just like one cryptocurrency, I would not be able to do it, I don't think, with a whole day. Wouldn't even know where to start. Well, this guy knew where to start. So this is from the ABC. When Jonathan, his name has been changed due to, I assume, being very embarrassed. When Jonathan stumbled across an Instagram account, flaunting huge profits from cryptocurrency, he thought he'd struck a gold mine. Oh, Jonathan, you fool. full. Quote, I ended up messaging the person and then she went on this long spiel about Bitcoin mining and how it's really profitable.

The 23-year-old said, he's 23. No doubt she's like a hot lady picked up. Tell me more. The strategy he was told could produce high-watering returns of 50% per month. That's a good return, guys. That is a good return. Yeah. I was reading a different article about one of these scams,

and it was talking about the math of when people are, now I'm not going to get into the math, Theo. But the math of when somebody's promising, like, this level of return, they were talking about how like, if you put $5 dollars into it, then it th...00, th.00, th.00, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, then it would be several billion dollars like within six years and that's good money yeah that's good money guys think of all the stuff you could buy for a billion dollars he was initially skeptical so in late 2017 he sent 50 dollars so in the teat. He sent 50 dollars in Bitcoin as a test a month later with the instincts Jonathan he was sent back his $50, along with another $30 of so-called profit.

That's over, that's over 50%. Now, yeah, when you get back that $30, you immediately think to yourself, that's it, I'm all in. Yeah. So he sent hundreds of dollars, then thousands. Then he started telling friends and family who sent even more money. Quote, one of my best mates sold his car for $10,000 and put all that money in, and it disappeared, Jonathan said. Oh boy. Whoops. I put a few thousand dollars in myself and one of my other

mates put in about five thousand dollars. When the scam had all our money at the same time, that's when she disappeared. That's good timing from the scam. I have to say that's good timing. Yeah when you have all the money that's when you go. You can't go earlier because then you have none of the money. So she's played it well. You can't give him back his $50. Give him $30 of your money and then cut and run. That's not a good scam. This is scamming 101 people. So execution-wise, we're really, we're hitting a, we're hitting a 100 here. 1,000? Home run. Yeah, in terms of how she's, I mean, I don't know if this is the end of the scam, but in terms of how, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th, th. th. th. thin, thin, thin, th. thin, thin, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi. thin, thi. thin, thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th she's pulled this off. Because also, I don't know, it sounds to me like she didn't even say, have to say, like tell your friends. Like it seems to be like, yeah, he did it.

She stumbled upon like the most perfect rub. Yeah. Who like actually started scamming on her behalf. And he's just immediately gone, like fired up, the group chat,there's a wallet inspector. Yeah, name the group chat, the future billionaires club. And all, yeah, in terms of execution, that is good return on $30. That's more than 50% return on her $30.

That's true. She is, she is making great returns. She just wasn't quite clear about where it was going. That's all. But on that note, it says, all up... But you might get the money back, right, Angie? Well, let's see. Hmm. All up, Jonathan and his friends lost more than $20,000 to the scam. Fuck. And that's one guided half of that, too. Hmm. It's caused immense stress and embarrassment, and some of his friends still don't talk to him. Yeah, I mean, also, you don't have to tell the news about this man. Like, no. Yeah, you don't have to.

This is my favorite thing about any scam that is in the news is the part where somebody has gone to the news to tell them about the same thing. Yeah, and then everyone's like, you're an idiot. Listen, I'm a fucking moron and they're like, go on. If I can just prevent one fucking moron from doing what I did. Yeah, that's sad. Or maybe it's like he's trying to own it, like get it off his chest, like feel better and empower himself. To be fair, that's their fault too, you know, you, you,'t blame him. My therapist told me something that was like genuinely mind-blowing recently, where like, I was telling her, I was like, I think I feel like I need to tell people everything because if I don't, I think it's like shameful if I'm not telling people stuff. And she was like oh my god

I was like things can just be private dude a weight lifts off your shoulders finally masturbation has become fun again I really feel like I feel like I feel like there will be at least one list into your podcast who will be like oh my my God. Oh my God. But maybe this is actually the fucking moron thing again. We've talked about this though before on these scams where a guy was like, you know, I think it was the classic like, a high-fi fell off the back of a van kind of scam and this guy went immediately to like, he said, like, if thian, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thu.... thi thi, like, like, like, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. this. this. this is, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, this. this.. this. th.. th. th....... th....................... th....... th.... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to the to the news and it's like hey I just if one person if I can say one person from falling for this incredibly fucking

obvious scam like what's that might have been the guy who was that might have been the guy who got pulled over in traffic by a stranger who said I'm a fashion designer and I have all of these fancy leather jackets that I have to get rid of today. I, given you guys have a regular scam watch segment, I wonder if this has come up before, but I heard something really interesting about the Nigerian scams once, because I used to work on a show that had a scamming sort of section on it. We didn't scam people. We told people about scams and how to avoid them. So I did a lot of kind of scam research sca sa scam scam scam scam scam scam scam scam scam scam scam scam scam scam scam scam scam scam scam scam scam scam scam scam scam scam scam scam scam scam scam sca s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi. I thi. I thi. I the. I the. I the. I the. I toe. I toe. I toe. I toe. I toe. I toe. I toea. I toe. I the. I the. I th. I th. I told people about scams and how to avoid them. So I did a lot of kind of scam research and I found this really interesting thing about,

especially about the Nigerian scams, where when you see a scam and you're like, fucking hell, this is so obvious in its scamminess. A lot of the time, that's a feature, not a bug. Because it's a kind of auto filter in that you only get the dumbest people. And you don't waste your time with anybody who's gonna like not deliver at the end. Because the scams are kind of labor intensive, you have to kind of nurture them like a garden. And you don't want to do all that work before somebody's like, wait a minute, there's no wallet inspector.

So like it's, it's deliberately shit to only select the most credulous robs available. Now that does sound like a good program, Ben. If listeners want to check that out, what frequency do they set their UHF antenna to? Fuck off. You can get it on whack cylinders. This guy does actually go into the aspect that you were talking about earlier, which was, he says, like, it's, like, it's, like, it's, like, it's, like. It....... It, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, like, like, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, th. the, the, the, the, the, the into the aspect that you were talking about earlier, which was he says like, yeah I felt bad afterwards because I basically became a recruiter. Yeah. For this lady, I went out and I like told all my friends about it and told them how great it was. He made a testimonial video for her.

Oh shit. It says for victims like Jonathan, it's almost impossible to get money back When I went to the police, they basically said you've only lost $20,000. We know people who've lost millions They said things classic police and we're definitely going to do something about that we'll get back to you. I I just it's such a like standard feature of the police to say yeah so someone stole $20,000 from you and I'm taking this down on my invisible type yeah yep yeah yeah but it is it I mean like he can't get the money back it's impossible like you know the one thing that we we used to be able to tell people is like you can do a charge back sometimes but like that's why scammers the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi the is the is the is th. thi thi the is the is the is the is th. th. th. the is th. the is the is the is the is the is the is the is the is th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the is the is the is thi the is the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the one thing that we used to be able to tell people is like you can do a

charge back sometimes, but like, that's why scammers don't use PayPal. I was, so I was reading this week about, about multiple people who have been scammed in the process of buying a Tesla. Has anybody else heard about this? No. So, victim less crime. Great time. There's a few people in this story from the ABC and they're talking about how they, they bought a Tesla and. And they're like $100,000, aren't they? More than that. Right.

They've bought a Tesla and they have to like order them online because they don't have showrooms everywhere, you know, and there's a big backlog of people waiting to buy them. And so these people have been, finally, have been told, hey, your cars come in. And what Tesla does is, they send you like a PDF invoice in your email and say, pay for this car now. So you're supposed to take those bank details and just bank transfer like $130,000 to Tesla.

And so what happens with this form of scam is, it's a good one. Somebody, yeah, somebody intercepts the email, yeah, changes the banking details and just sends it on. And so you get an email from Tesla with your invoice that says pay this details and just sends it on. And so you get an email from Tesla with your invoice that says pay this thing and you just drop this money straight into someone else's bank account and then when you tell Tesla about it they say yeah. Yeah they might send you a funny meme.

What? They say well yeah. In terms of like that kind of self-selecting thing that we were talking about before. Have you noticed that like most? that like th th th th that like most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most that like that like that like that like that like that like that that that that th. that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that thi thi that that that says that says that says that says that says that says that says that's that's that's that's that's that's thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th. th. th. th. th. th. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thiiii. thiiiiiiii. thii. thi. thi. their their like in terms of like that kind of self-selecting thing that we were talking about before, have you noticed that like most, a lot of Twitter scams for, like directed at people doing crypto stuff is like very clearly directed at Elon Musk fans? Yes. Yeah. Because they are the most critical groups on the planet. Like scammers have clearly worked out, these are the dumbest people because they like Elon Musk and they swallow, sorry, yeah what fertile grounds. Exactly. And I wonder, I mean I don't think Tesla drivers are the same as Elon Musk freaks, but like there's obviously a crossover there. Yeah, absolutely. Is he hosting S&L as we speak guys? Could I be watching Elon Musk on S&L instead of talking to you chuckle-fucks? Something really funny for one. Because that's going to be epic bacon you guys. Yeah. So I don't know if this guy was attempting to trade

doge coin on Instagram but he says in hindsight Jonathan admits that there were red flags. Sure. Yeah. But while the profits were flowing in, he couldn't bring himself to believe he was being duped. Is that the $30? No, I assume they go. So with, I mean, Ben Pelley knows more about this than me, but with your classic kind of Ponzi scam, the, it starts off as big returns on small investments

and then they'll start getting to to to to to b later to b later to b later to boamamam later the bottom the bottom the bottom the bottom the bottom to the bottom to the bottom to the bottom from the big investments and then they'll start getting later and later as the kind of bottom layer starts to dry up. So there's a lot of character stick going on here. I would hope that this guy got more than $30 before he started recruiting his friends are making testimonial videos. Like you've got to assume that there were some more returns. You're right. There are. Hey, is there a way? This sounds like I'm running a Ponzi scheme. But is there a way that anybody can like stick the landing on a Ponzi scheme? Because to me it just seems like you just do it and then you go to jail.

Like it doesn't seem like it's any way to cut and run. You have to be able to, and the problem is I think a lot of people don't go into it. Like you take the classic Ponzi scheme, the Bernie Madoff, right? I don't, he didn't necessarily go into it with the concept of constructing a Ponzi scheme, whereas now you can kind of like, down the example. I'll pay out some stuff from the investments because like, like, and it's, I I I I I I the the, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, like, like, like, like, like, I, like, I'll, tak, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tens of billions of dollars, right, to invest and poor all Gill's just doing his best, right? And people like, I want my returns, it's like, oh, well, you know, where am I going to find this money? And then eventually, you know, you go to jail, like you say.

Have you guys read the Glass Hotel? It's Emily St. John's new book, and it's, th and it's, th and it's, th and it's she's a person who wrote station 11 and it's all about a big part of it is about a Ponzi scheme and that's reading that book made me understand what Ponzi schemes are and how simple they are it's it's literally just you give someone money and they keep it like it's honestly what it is. Yeah it's so good it's the old like just well I've got some numbers there and I want them to be over there, so I'm just gonna kind of take this money. I do have another example in here of a Ponzi scheme with not enough layers.

Oh yes. Well, let's move forward to that one. But closing out, Jonathan says there were some red flags. For example, at one point while using a web service to transfer his cash to Bitcoin, Jonathan got a phone call querying why he was raising his daily limit. Yeah, hey Jonathan, you sound like a real idiot. Hey, you've been scammed over there. Quote, I was talking about it with the guy there and he was trying to convince me it was a scam.

That is a red flag. When the bank, when the bank calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls the bank calls the bank calls the bank calls the bank calls the bank calls the bank calls the bank calls the bank calls the bank calls you and says you are currently being scammed and you say you don't understand. You don't know what you're talking about. It's a scammed right now. I think I would know if I was being scammed by a lady on Instagram that's getting me to sell Bitcoin. Hey guys, I just realized I somebody tried to scam me yesterday. Do you want to rate this scam and maybe tell me like what you thinks going on here on on Because I I can't work at what their angle is. So I got a message from just a random mobile phone number and it says your order and then it has an order number and then it says amount. Uh, $3,969 for a Canon EOSR six camera at Amazon was successful Contact us on this number which is a what's oh eight is I eight Perth Oh, it is Adelaide Adelaide it's an Adelaide number for dispute

So obviously it's like trying to make me think that somebody's using my account? It's what do you think happens when I? I? I think I think it would be that someone would get on the phone and say oh, oh, yeah, okay, what? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, th. th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to, to, to, to, to, to, to to to to to to to, to to to to to, to to to to to thi. th. th. th. I think I think it would be that someone would get on the phone and say oh yeah okay what you didn't buy the $3,000 camera well that's been charged to your card we just need all your financial institution details and we'll sort it right out for you. I think boomers would fall for that one. Oh it's a good one. I got a text message the other day that was that was like hey your delivery has been or is on route or whatever from this courier service, here's the tracking. Yeah, I got this one, yep. And I was like, I don't remember ordering anything. And you follow the tracking number and it goes to a website that looks for all the world like a...It looks really good. It's a DHL tracking service and everything. And it says, yep, we've got this package and it's their. And it and it's their. their. their. the package and it's the package. the package, the package, the package, their. their, the package, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. th. tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. train, true, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their.. their. their. t. t. t. t. t. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. true. true. true. true. tru says, yep, we've got this package and it just

has a package number, it doesn't have any details about it. We've got your package here and everything. What do you want to do with it? We can leave it at a, like we can send it to a depot for you to pick up or you can just pay $3 to have it courteous. That's just a great scam because I just realized that's happened to me. I didn't realize I was being scammed. But I was just like, oh fuck out, I don't care about this package.

So I just was like, oh, there's just gonna be a package sitting somewhere. I don't care if it was too hard. Well, I definitely thought to be like what package. I just immediately like searched Google for the tracking code and it was like nothing. And then I googled text message delivery and it auto completed to scam. Yeah right right okay. How about this one though? I like this one. So this is from Chronicle Live.co. UK. Experts are warning of a new scam which might be hard to spot even for the more wary. That's because it works by warning people that they have thi th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th they have th th th thi thi that that that that that th th th that thi thi that th th th th th. And it was like th. And it was like th. And it th. And it th. And it th and it th and it th and it th and it th and it was like th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th they th they they have they have they have they have they have they have thi thi thi thi thi that that that that that that that that that to to that to to to to to to to the that a new scam, which might be hard to spot, even for the more wary. That's because it works by warning people that they have been the victim of a scam. Beautiful, scamception.

It uses the branding of the Chartered Trading Standards Institute, who have recently been warning people of frauds with many of their warnings reported on by publications, including Chronicle Live. The organization says a phony letter bearing CTSI branding informs the recipient that insurance scammers have been caught and that the recipient should fill in a creditors' debt form as part of a bogus compensation scheme. So I think this is in the same realm as what you were just describing. You tell someone that they've been ripped off and you're going to give their money back to them.

That's smart. I think that's, yeah, that's smarter. In terms of originality, I'm giving that like an eight or a nine. To return to the, can I score the first one? Or do we do that later? Okay, in terms of in terms of execution, 10 out of 10, like he could not have done it better. Got off clean. In terms of the victim, I do feel for him, but I feel like he had a lot of like a lot of opportunity to pull up. I think when you have been phoned by the bank to be informed that you are being scammed and you willingly say to the news afterwards, while I was just too greedy for those crypto dollars to see.

So I don't know what that does to his score. I think, like, to me, it's sort of, I don't know, I tend to think that like if you've, if you just sort of got $5,000 that you can bear it apart with. That's true. And if he had like a more complicated story, I think you would have told the news that because you, you know, you go into damage control. In terms of originality, it gets a big fat one from me because it's one of the oldest

scams out there. It's just the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. It's just just just just just just just tho tho thi. It's just thi. thi. tho tho thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's theeeeeee. thea. the. the. Crypto chain letter, send a dollar, send a dollar to a smiling happy dude. So that's that would be my score of this scam on scam watch. Okay, unfortunately for the second one, we don't have any examples of people who have been stung by this one. So we can't really say anything about the execution. And also I think it's definitely one that has the potential to be more to be the potential to be the potential the potential to be more the potential to be the potential to be more the potential that has the potential to be more likely to Scam old people out of their retirement money and that kind of thing That's true

That's because that was that's what always used to make me upset on the checkout like Because people would get in contact with us and saying like can you cover the scam because I was almost always? It was almost always al than I can afford. That's why I don't really care about Bitcoin scams because I feel like that... That's young people. I can't, and it's young terrible people, like almost by default. So... I feel like they're learning a valuable lesson. I think so. Do you guys earn any crypto? No. I had some doge coin and then I sold it. Uh huh. And I don't want to talk about that. You got. Do the rocket. Do the rocket. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I. I. I th. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I'm that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I. I. I. I. I that. I. I. I. I. I that. I. I that. I that. I that. I that. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm that's that's that's that's th. I can't that's that's that's that's that's that's that's young. I can't that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that. You got off the rocket. You got off the rocket. So final scam of the day. This is from news.com. that are you. Ex-footie player Nick Stevens accused of swimming pool scam. Love this.

All right. So I was reading about this earlier in the week and I asked about it on line to ask people like, what are you picturing when I say swimming pool fraud? Most people like I think the most popular response was some variation of the roadrunner like painting a pool onto the ground. So what do you what do you think of when I say swimming pool scam Ben? Great great question. I think it probably has something to do with saying he's going to build you a swimming pool and then not doing that.

That is the simplest version of that scam. So, well, yeah. So, uh, ten civilian witnesses will be called to give evidence in the case against former Port Adelaide AFL star Nick Stevens Stevens who was accused of a swimming pool scam. His case was briefly heard in the Mildura Magistrate's Court on Tuesday in a hearing to set dates for a committal process to test the evidence against him. The former Port and Carlton player is facing seven charges including five of dishonestly obtaining financial advantage.

Okay so reading a bit further into this on splash magazine.com that are you which is my go-to source. Is that all new swimming pool? Pool and spa news. That's great. So when there's a new kind of like pool skimmer that comes out, that's where it drops? What kind of jets you got on that, boy? So they said that former AFL player Nick Stevens has been charged with a number of offenses related to his Mildura-based swimming pool business. Last year the VBA led an investigation into allegations his business leisure pools miljura installed swimming pools and failed to complete work.

The allegations included accusations of deception and reports that several customers who paid deposits have been left with incomplete pools, as well as debts outstanding to suppliers. I think this is very generous to call this a scam. Me too. Like, it's just, it's just bad at his job. It's just fucking sucking at building pools. This is a scam.

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He spends, he's got big hater energy. Okay. He does. He like, he hates on everybody who is like cooler and more popular than he. Does he hate on Encino Man himself? He does. Oh, that's that's believable. Because Link the Cave Man is swaggy. He's, everybody loves him. He's very popular and just for the simple crime of being himself. Did you guys read that incredible Brendan Frazier interview?

Yeah. Yeah. It has like my favorite moment in any profile of someone where he just stands up in the middle of talking about something really difficult and goes, if you'll excuse me, I've just got to let some arrows fly. And then he walks out of a bow and arrow and just fires some arrows off into the woods. It's unbelievable. It's so good. What a wonderful man.

What a wonderful man. Sweet angel. I don't think we deserved Brendan Fras. No. So, I saw some photos from this of people who had been stung with this guy and they have the Encino man pool in their backyard. He is basically like rented a digger or whatever, dug a hole, and then just not done anything else and also...

Well Rain's gonna fill that up, so I mean, good job done. And I assume that he is also just like not paid the bill for renting the digger either. Well, that sounds like, yeah, it sounds like he owes some contractors money. So the ABC reports that Stevens has been charged with five counts of dishonestly obtaining a financial advantage, totaling more than $144,000 between June and November 2017. That's, that's a lot of money to reel in a couple of short months there. That's a lot of pools to half build in a few months. I want you guys to hold in your mind the image of what you think former footballer turned pool scam artist is and then I want you to

Google Nick Stevens. Yeah, and I think you will find that it's absolutely spot on. Oh and apparently the main other thing that this guy is known for, besides AFL and pool scams, is domestic violence. So no one has to feel bad for him. No one has to feel bad for him at all. It is alleged that Stevens accepted $3,300 from each victim on the pretense of installing a functioning swimming pool before later collecting much larger sums of between $24,000 and $30,000. So... So he said he'd do it for three grand?

Is that... No, no, I assume that he was saying that he would put pools in for people for like 30 grand. And he was taking a deposit, starting the work and saying, oh, I need the rest of that money and then when he gets the rest of the money he's like fucking done I'm like Is that how much a pool costs? Pools cost a fucking wild amount of money Fuck, I feel so bad like I remember when we were kids just like bugging and bugging and my parents. I want a pool?

When are we getting a pool? I'm like, we live in Canberra. Yeah, when are you going to use that? I can't use a pool, like nine months a year. Three days a year. Yeah, you sound crazy right now. Do you know how crazy you sound right now, maybe? Every, like we've lived next to people with pools and you the pool, to to to to to to to to to to to to the pool, the pool, to the pool, the pool, and you, the pool, and you, the pool, and you, the pool, the to the to to to to to to their, to to to to to use, to use, to use, to use, to use, to use, to use, to use, to use, to use, to use, to use, to use, to use, to use, to use, to use, to use, to use, to use, to use, to use, to use, to use, to use, to use, to use, to use, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, to to thi, thi, thi, th lived next to people with pools and it's just like you spend Most of the year I we grew up next to somebody with a pool and we spent like most of the year with it either covered up or

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Love that. Very floral pattern kind of thing. And a plastic rose in a tube. That's beautiful. Whereas I would say that Finn has not gotten a fucking thing. Wow. How How old's Finn? He is seven months old. Well that's no excuse. Moses got on you some lovely La Cri-Say things. He got her what is called a salt pig. Which I didn't, uh, I call what on his friends. I was like, what should I get onion for Mother's Day? She said, get her a salt pig. Easy, salt pig. Easy, I'll just be googling that immediately.

A salt pig, you guys, is a little container that salt goes in. And you keep it next to the oven or the stove, and you use it to season, it's a salt holder. It holds salt. Salt hole. I guess basically a pool scam is just to tell someone that you will build a pool and then take the money. It's ingenious. Pretty boring. Don't like the scam. In terms of execution though, like yeah, he's in trouble, but until he wasn't, you've got to hand it to him. He scammed a lot of pool money. I think he is missing that layer of anonymity that the Instagram Crypto Scammer gets by being a well-known local celebrity. That's true.

That's true. It's harder to cut and run when you used to play for Port Adelaide. Yes, scamming people in your local neighborhood. Very foolish, idiots. They're probably going to be able to get zero out of ten. Are you tired of paying nothing for the same old superior quality free episodes of the Buntavista podcast? Do you want less politics and more content about diarrhea? Our animals gone wild?

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We're going to look at a few pranks here and in many ways a prank is a scam of the heart. Absolutely. It's a scam of emotions. Yeah. What is a scam of the heart. Absolutely. It's a scam of emotions. Yeah. What is a scam but a prank continuing? Finance is a financial prank, yeah. Uh, so he said it, they said in this article, uh, Iraq bans terror prank TV shows. Excuse me. Probably good. Wise move.

Pardon? This is from the BBC, right? OK. Two Iraqi TV shows that sparked outrage by pranking celebrities with fake suicide vests and staged kidnappings have been suspended. I love this. Oh my God. Just picturing like an Iraqi version of like Ashton Kutcher. But if Ashton Kutcher was like doing a fake 9-11

on like Tom Cruise. Funny funny story, the first episode of Punked that they did, it had a different name initially, but they, one of the first things they did on the first episode was a prank that involved like a fake dead body in a hotel room. Yeah. And the people that they did it to said, hey, you've like done some fucked up trauma to us and we are suing you. And they said, let's change this show and make it about celebrities instead. That's smart.

Yeah. Now you know how that show and make it about celebrities instead. That's smart. That is smart. Yeah. Now you know how that show is called Punked. Yeah. Well these TV shows are called Tony's Bullet and Razzland's Shooting. Both great names. Both great names. For what sounds like a lot of fun. Nothing like a bit of fun.

In one episode of Razlan's shooting, an actress passed out in fear after having fake explosive strapped to her. Oh my god, who is this for? Well, hold on. I would say if you are kidnapping people, like, they say that one of them was a fake kidnapping, if you're kidnapping people, I'm assuming you're grabbing them and taking them somewhere against their will, in what way is that a fake kidnapping? You've done their kidnapping.

You've done the other people. That's just what that is. A kidnapping can be both staged and real. Yeah. Yeah. It's like jokes when you were doing this for a different reason. It's like, a lot of care. Which reminds me of this British news story I saw the other day.

I think it's British, where this guy was robbing a bank in Bella Clava, right? And he's like, you know, all the money in the bag teller recognized his their th recognized his voice. And he's like, nah, I was just joking, eh? It was just, it was just, the direct quote from the story was that he pulled off his balaclava and said, I was just messing. Just messing. I was having a laugh. Oh, England. Get it together.

Get it together, Great Britain. I'm just imagining doing a stage kidnapping and someone being upset afterwards and being like, hey, when it comes to comedy, intent matters, you know. Viewers criticize the shows as cruel and tone deaf. Yeah, really feels like this kidnapping is really punching down. Views criticized the shows as cruel and tone-deaf, given the constant threat of militant violence in Iraq. Sure, sure, sure, sure.

Yeah, it seems reasonable. Yeah. Another episode of Razlan's shooting showed Iraqi international footballer, al-Mohai blindfolded and begging for his life. Wow. Jesus. No, it's just good comedy. All right.. So, Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben, th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, the the the tho, the the the tho, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. tho. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. tho. tho. tho. tho. That's just good comedy. All right, so Ben, imagine that you're working on this show. It's not going great and you're asked for comment. Here's something

that you could say. Responding to criticism last month, one of the show's writers, Daugam Abu Ghif said, the scenes are harsh, but if Islamic State had won, artists would have had a far harder life. Do you know, I think I'm just going to use that as my like kind of boilerplate response for any criticism that I get for anything I make. Oh, did the terrorists win? Oh, I see. Wow, guys. So this sent me down like a slight hole here. So here's another article from 2017, which is about like where this sort of started, right?

Sure. Generally associated with Ramadan, TV has become an important part of the Islamic Holy Month, and broadcasters will often commission special programs to draw audiences in as they break their fast in the evening. Prank TV shows have risen in popularity, but have also earned criticism in recent years for taking things too far. Sure. Mm-hmm.

Egyptian actor Ramez Galal has established himself as a major TV prankster with a series of programs featuring celebrities in increasingly extreme scenarios. In one addition, he fooled celebrities into believing they were on a sinking ship surrounded by floating body parts and an approaching shark. Now that's funny. That is funny. That is a funny joke to do to somebody. I appreciate the dedication to craft. Does it say where they actually

were? No. How they pulled off this? That's a lot of production. They weren't like on a universal studios tour. Yeah, yeah, exactly. In another, victims were locked inside a supposed ancient Egyptian tomb containing bats, insects, and a mummy rising from the dead. That also sounds very cool. I would love to prank a celebrity with a mummy. So those, I think that those are like slightly more okay so far.

But, in 2013 during a program entitled Rames, the fox of the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theckxxxxxxx of theck of thi, th that those are like Slightly more okay so far, but in 2013 during a program entitled Rames the Fox of the Desert great name I'm right into that name guest celebrities were fooled into believing that the bus they were traveling on Had been intercepted by militants Less fun. The mock militants pretended to shoot the driver dead. Jesus Christ. Jesus! And then blindfolded and handcuffed the guests. This is like that Michael Douglas movie The Game.

But it's a reality show, which I kind of love. This was aired at a time when Egypt was witnessing a surge in terror attacks. Contextext matters. Sure does. Yeah. Just Darrell Summers saying, oh, you couldn't get away without these days. Oh, yeah. The cancel cultures made shows where you are, where you kidnap a bus of celebrities.

Unfortunately impossible. You just won't see on TV anymore. Pluck a duck strapping a child to a conveyor belt heading for a furnace. It's just, they're just not going to be able to get away with it due to political correctness. Can I tell you? I went back and watched some hey hey recently because of that whole controversy. Somebody posted like a big threat of it online. And I watched a fair bit of it. And what really struck me wasn't how offensive it was. And of course it is. It's like some of the crookest stuff you can imagine. But also

just how fucking bad it was. It's so lazy. It was just a bunch of people with no charisma, just fucking about for an hour. It was, it was on, it's like podcast before podcast. Yeah, they crawled so we didn't. Yeah, honestly. They were just like 90% percent of what their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their some some some some their their their some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some. It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, their. their. their. their. their. their. their. It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, like, like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, their. It's like podcast before podcast. Yeah, they crawled so we did. Yeah, honestly, there were just like 90% of what people are saying is, all right, what's next? So what do you do next? It's just, I think I genuinely think the only thing that would have, that would appeal to people about that show was how offensive it was because there's nothing else. It's really amazing.

Have you, I assume we've seen the movie Walk Hard, the Dewey Cox? I have, yes. You know when that gets to the stage where it's like, it's like the 70s and his like Johnny Cash stand-in character has fallen on hard times and he's doing like variety shows? I do, I did only see this movie once at the cinemas. So yeah, there's there's like a whole a whole stage of it where John C. Riley's character, kind of an amalgamation of Elvis and Johnny Cash and all that sort of stuff. There's a bit of Ray Charles in there if I remember. Yeah, yeah and he so he's in the sort of

70s and he's doing like variety shows and they have disco versions of of his old hit songs and everything like that that was a very distinct period in like American television sure was that kind of like we're doing variety shows we're doing all those sorts of things like laughing and stuff like those kind of shows is that is what you mean yeah and also I guess just just generally that kind of like just a talk show. Sure, sure, sure. Sure, sure. We have people on and we're having fun and there will be a musical number and that sort of stuff. Yeah.

And I think that like, hey, it's Saturday was sort of roughly analogous to that sort of thing. But also, you can look at that stage in American TV and say, okay, it's pretty clearly defined and then they like moved on to making other stuff. Yeah. Whereas I really feel like Australian TV and you can see how this has sort of gone with like particularly non-pay TV in Australia. Just like there was, I don't know, a limited enough number of channels that there just sort of wasn't any pressure to move any further with a lot of things? Well that's the thing like that's why like most people who made TV in the Golden Age like the 80s and 90s when there was just like so

much fucking money the though the reason those people can't make TV anymore my theory is is that they made TV when it was literally like you can watch what I'm making right now or like like the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their I they. they. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. I th. I th. I th. I t. I te. I te. te. te. te is is. te is. is. is. is. is. is. is. is. is. is. is. is. is. is is is is is is. is is. is is is is is is. t. t. t. t. t. I is is is is. I t. I t. I t. I t. I t. I'm is. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t other things, or you can talk to your shitty kids. Like, that was honestly, it was so fucking easy to make TV that people watch because they didn't have any options. And so when they're like, oh, I can't make anything now, it's because yeah, man, you never got good at this, because you never had to. That is my theory. 100% like if you went back and watched like fast forward or full front or what have you

which is like a cornerstone of Australian comedy and I think like what a lot of us kind of grew up on, that's probably a good 70% of that is bad. Yeah, I will say maybe the exception this is the late show but then again I am only think remembering fondly the incredible bits. It's also the late show had a beloved segment where it was just Mick and Tony out on the street being rude to people. Like that was honestly the whole thing. So that wasn't like a lot of it. It's fucking wild to consider that Hey Hey It's Saturday, its initial run was 28 years. That what? 20?

That cannot be accurate. Are you serious? It ran on the 9th of October, 1971. What? What? No. The fuck are you talking about? Until the 20th of November, 1999.

That is impossible. There was a recess in 1978. There were 29 seasons of Hey Hey It Saturday. All hosted by Darry. There are over 500 episodes of Hey Hey Hates L. That is... So has Darrell Summers been the host the whole time? Because he must be... He was the host from the from the 1971 premiere onward.

Oh my god. Yeah, I'm looking at this now. Because he in 78, he had the Darryl... These people were so young. You just got a TV show that he was 20. He was 20 years old. I assumed that Hey Hey, it's Saturday came on the air when I was just old enough to perceive things. Yeah. And then it ended at some point.

Oh my God. How about that? Well it started off as a children's Saturday Morning cartoon show. And then it merged into a live show. Yeah, I can see how that happens. People love it when like, people love it when children's characters do a swear or they're naughty like all the blooper videos for agro. Where agros just like, you know, being sexually inappropriate to the, all the blooper videos for agro where agro's just like you know being sexually inappropriate to the to the other host but it's okay because

there's a puppet to remember when agro joined one nation that was a that was a weird simulation breaking down moment I feel what's yeah agro do you remember where pluck joined is a joint is a fucking a dog what the fuck are you talking about? Agro join One Nation. You did, I swear I'm not making this up. Fuck, maybe I am. I remember, I have this really distinct memory of Agro in a One Nation shirt handing out how to vote. So maybe I'm just tired. You guys remember where Big Bird joined the Ayatollah?

I'm looking this up, although Agro One Nation doesn't also I'm also looking at it right now I'm trying to... Agro's creator Jamie Dunn told Huffington Post Australia that the photo was taken several months ago and that Agro is definitely not a one nation supporter. There you go guys I've got a photo it's Agro in a hat it was written up by a friend of the podcast, I think, Josh Butler, and that's the news. Oh, yeah, right, okay. Does he say why he was, why he was doing that? Uh, well, it wasn't him, it was somebody else had a puppet.

Oh, oh, oh, okay. Whereas, I, was he the, was he the puppeteer? Can I just, yeah, can I just I just say, Jamie Dunn was a puppeteer? Can I just say that one of the things that people often complain about about Fridaug Home, which is me and Michael Hing's podcast, is that we talk a lot about Agro and Agro's Cartoon Connection. So I'm really glad that I've infected this nice podcast with that. That's fine. Yeah, feel free if you are not an Australian listener to look up like a hey hey it's Saturday Agro, possibly Agro's cartoon connection. Yeah. Or like Dickie

knee, feel free to look up Dickie knee and then you can see a fun kids puppet just say like, oh can I have a look at your pussy to female guests on the show. It really was single on tonday. Hey cabal you slur. Yeah. But yeah, it's absolutely. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's a, it's a, it's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's a that. It's a that. It's a the. It's a the. It's a the. It's a the. It's a the. It's a the. It's a the the. I. It's a the. I. It's a the. It's a the. It's a the. It's a the. It on the show. It really was single on tonda. Hey, cabal, you slur. Yeah. But yeah, it's absolutely fucking wild how long a show so devoid of charisma and anything to say and mostly hosted by literal puppets went from. Because I get the Graham Kennedy stuff right. Like, where, where, the industry's too obsessed with him. Graham Kennedy for internationalist was like our kind, I don't know, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, right? Like, where, the industry is too obsessed with him.

Graham Kennedy, for international this was like our kind of, I don't know, like Johnny Carson or whatever. There is like a mischief and a kind of sense of like chaos to him that's like really enjoyable to watch. If you go back and watch his old stuff like when he was like doing TV in like the 50s or whatever. It's quite joyful. Well he's also he's also got extreme like Rodney Dangerfield energy as far as like how he looks so it wasn't it wasn't just somebody wasn't just a good-looking guy who stumbled on the TV. No he's like he's like he's a kind of an odd-looking

bloke who like was I think a drunk and it kind of comes through it's just really fun. One of his like early like I was watching was watching. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I was like. I was like. th. I was like. I was like. I was like a th. I was like a th. I was like a th. I was like a th. I was like a th. I was like a th. I was like a th. I'm like like a th. I was like like like like like like like like like like like like like a th. I was like. I was like. I'm like. I'm like. th. I'm like. th. th. th. I'm like. I'm like. I'm like. I'm like. I'm like. I'm like. I'm like. I'm like. I'm like. I'm like. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. fun. One of his like early, like I was watching an episode because we're making something at the moment on SBS that's kind of meant to be an old show like this and so I've been watching a lot of Graham Kennedy lately and um and he had a great joke which was like whenever I see something that's funny that's like earlier than like like 1980 I'm always amazed. But like he's like he's like he starts the show and he's like ladies and gentlemen thanks for joining us we just had a bomb threat called in but thankfully it was a false alarm and then he just explodes it's so good. It's really good. Comes out with the suit that's all tattered and he's

smoking and it's great. Wonderful. Well um Lucy has had to abandon us I assume to go and tend to Mother's day cei, th th th th th th th th th th to to to to to to to to to the to to their to th th th and thi thi that that that that that that that that thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks that th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th their their their their their their their their their that that that and I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thanks thanks thanks to thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks it's great. Wonderful. Well, Lucy has had to abandon us, I assume to go and tend to Mother's Day celebrations. And I think we're all going to have to do the same. Yeah, I got to go, I got to, this is really bad, but I got to go and buy my mother mother and a mothday present because, um, well because I was born, I've got two Mother's Days to 10-2 now. Nobody tells you this when you have a child. I think, I think my mother's out there waiting right now. So... Well, you guys have a lovely Mother's Day and, and as Roe McMahons would say, say hi to your mum's for me. Oh, fuck.

He would say that, and I'm going to say that in a nice way. So Ben, thank you for joining us, thank you for auditioning, thank you for appearing on The Benchler. Not at all. And hit people again, where can they find more of you? Oh yeah, well like I say, Frater Good Home is a podcast that you can find, it's me and Michael Hing, going through odd classifieds that we find classified that we find their podcast that we find a tree and elsewhere on the internet. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thate at thate, thate, thate, thi. thi. thi. thate, thp-in, thp-in, th. Not, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, the, the, the. And, the. And, the. And, theateateateateateateateateateateateateateateate. And, thate. And, thate. And, the. And on the internet. It's been going for a while now, so we've sort of broadened our purview to just text. That we just find text on the internet and read it out. What's the schedule like for that? It's actually, it's becoming troublingly regular. We put one out probably every two weeks now. Partly because I made a deal with our Patreon people that if we don't put at least two to to just not charge them. So there's a good incentive there.

But also, I do Dragon Friends, which is a Dungeons and Dragons comedy podcast. And we're doing a show, if you're in Sydney, we're doing a show at the comedy store on Wednesday night. If you thought comedy, dungeons and dragons, that doesn't sound lame enough. Well, guess what? This one is Star Wars themed this particular this particular episode and we're doing a one-off it's a special one-shot. We've got legitimate stage and screen actor Toby Schmitz joining us on stage which

is very exciting and we're going to be doing Star Wars theme Dragon Friends at the comedy store this Wednesday. Wonderful, all right? Yeah. We'll check that out everybody. And I'd like to give a plug to the Mothers of the World. Oh, you can't plug them all. That's some milf hunter stuff right there. But we respect it.

Thank you again, Ben. No, thank you very much for having you guys. Thanks everybody. We'll see you later. Bye. Bye Cheers. you to be