Boonta Vista - EPISODE 209: The Parmasean Dimension (Featuring Batesy from Take A Look Around)

Episode Date: July 23, 2021

Andrew, Ben and Lucy are joined by the legendary B-Man from the nu-metal scholars at Take A Look Around to discuss the latest Poll Report. We also investigate the strangely supportive world of Retconn...ed reality, and find what happens when you shift into another version of our world, but the only difference is the spelling of one kind of cheese. Find more of Al on the Take A Look Around podcast! All of their important links are here: https://linktr.ee/takealookaroundpod *** Support our show and get exclusive bonus episodes by subscribing on Patreon: www.patreon.com/BoontaVista *** Email the show at mailbag@boontavista.com! Call in and leave us a question or a message on 1800-317-515 to be answered on the show! *** Twitter: twitter.com/boontavista Website: boontavista.com Merchandise: shop.boontavista.com/ Twitch: twitch.tv/boontavista

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Wundervista, episode 209. I am at a Limp Biscuit concert in the year 2000. We are in fact at the perfect point in time, it's after the release of Significant Other, but we are yet to experience the horror of 9-11. Here with me in his signature red cap, chugging a four loco, it's Ben. How's it going, Ben? I'm doing fucking great, dude. You know what, I, if someone had told me two years ago
Starting point is 00:00:54 that there was a perfect fusion of my two's no way that's true. And then I'm here and I'm listening to Fred Durst's lyrical raps and I'm listening to the the amazing metal guitar stylings of Al Bolland. Where's Ballaind? I don't know. I'm looking at the names I can see on my screen right now. Best costumes in the industry. Man loved to dress up. I fucking love it. But fucking I, like, yeah, my sister who was five years older than me when I was like 10 was like, check this shit out. Listen to significant other and I was like, holy fuck man.
Starting point is 00:01:43 This is amazing. I remember, uh, my brother in his, uh, was like, like, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I to to to to to to to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to to, I to, I to to to th. I th. I th. I is amazing. I remember my brother in his, what was it like a 1976 Toyota Celica. Sweet. Putting on the CD of $3 bill y'all and just being like, what is happening right now? Being taken away to another place. Is this possible? Is the physics behind this reel? We all learned about it, decided to come to this show. to another place. Is this possible? Is the physics behind this reel? We all learned about it, decided to come to this show, here on my left in her very best sketches with the thickest eyeliner you've ever seen. It's Lucy.
Starting point is 00:02:14 How's going Lucy? Hi. And that part's part of a fantastical scenario right? It's not reflecting your actual like day to their makeup at all. and imagine it just sort of a winged eye liner you're doing there. It looks thick-ish, hard to tell from, yeah, yeah. I'm having a Mandela effect because I swear that we have done an intro about being at Olympusky concert before. Wouldn't shock me, but there's no way to know. I did a double up the other week and I knew it like the moment I put the episode out and I was like, oh fuck, nothing I do about this and then yeah, a bunch of people in the discord were just like, you've done this one before. I felt awful. I didn't know it. Well, here's our other friend. He's waving his hands around a crystal ball and bringing
Starting point is 00:03:05 us visions of which song Limp Biscuit might play at a future Wrestlemania event. It's the B-Man. It's Batesy. It's Al. Who hosts the the the world's only podcast about the intersection of New Metal and Cinema. Take a look around. Al hosts the show with his sidekick Shorn who looks up to him as both a mentor and a father figure. This is very true. Yeah, I'm kind of the grown up of the short and Al. He kind of, he does look up to me and I have kind of taken him under my wing. I would say he's my protégé. I think it's so kind of you. Sort of a Batman and Robin situation. Well that was a very cool thing that my family instilled in me is charity and to do it sincerely as well.
Starting point is 00:03:51 And you know I think looking after somebody like Sean with their afflictions it's a very noble thing. Yeah, hello. How are you? How is everybody? We're great. I just want to, sorry, can we detail the afflictions? I'd say they're more deficiencies. Personal shortcomings. Yeah, yeah, yeah, biological, sure, as well, but no. Yeah, no, look, honestly, Sean, he's the dad of the show. If anyone's the sidekick, it's me. And, that. the the that. the thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. thi. thi. th. thi. the, it's, it's, it's, the, the, the, the,'s the dad of the show if anyone's the sidekick It's me and maybe Sean Well, oh dear we do love take a look around. Thank you. I love Buntavista I've been listening since you were the Buntavista Socialist Club. My goodness. Back in the day. Every day that I look at the news. I love. I love. I love? I love bunt of the news. I th. I th. I, I, I, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, th. th. me, me, me, th. me, me, me, me, me, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. tho. tho. the. tho. the. tho. the. the. to Vista Socialist Club. My goodness. My goodness. Back in the day, every day that I look at the news, I think, I'm so glad that I don't need to talk about politics on the podcast anymore.
Starting point is 00:04:54 What would you even say? You'd be like, hey, you'd end up like one of those fucking boomer accounts where you're like, well Scott Morrison still hasn't said anything. Oh, right. Let's get an out of material out of that. Yeah, I did. Let's hear what the opposition leader has to say. Ugh. Like a quiet hum in the distance. See, you guys were smart and like didn't paint yourself into a corner,
Starting point is 00:05:19 whilst now Sean and I are having the anxiety-inducing moment of like, we're running out of movies. We're running out of new metal stuff to talk about. We've literally like as a podcast had the exact opposite discussion about your podcast and being like, fuck, they were smart to have a podcast that's about something. Yeah, right. Oh no. It's about something cool. They thought of something cool. It's such a good idea for a podcast, honestly. Thank you. It's all Sean once again. It's so good. We were like obsessed with this essay called Life is Peache. I, Sean can remember who wrote it. I'm really terrible with remembering names and like finer details, but um this, it was called Life as Peacie. It was about, it was by some economist. It was kind of about how new metal itself was.
Starting point is 00:06:07 the The economic distillation of like everything at that point and how new metal was the product of, you know, the middle class and lower class is finally mushing together and look I can't fucking explain the shit, but like Sean I'll try and find the link for everybody. I'm sure people will. It's this. It's. It's. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it. the, it. the. the. the, it. the, it. the the the the the the, it. It was, it. It was. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'll. I'll. It was. It was. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll the. I'll th. I'll th. It was. I'll the. I'll the. It was. I'll the. I'll the. I'll the. I'll the. I'll the. I'll. I Look, I can't fucking explain the shit, but like Sean, I'll try and find the link for everybody, I'm sure people, it's one of the greatest essays. Anyway, after reading that, Sean and I were just like, because Sean, I've known Sean forever, like, he's a very dear, very dear an old friend.
Starting point is 00:06:42 For years, we've kind of tried to figure out like what's a project we could do because I'm not really musical and he kind of was from a musical background so like we talked about doing like a Nicholas Cage podcast for fucking years and we didn't realize you could do stuff like cast or say caster or any of like the things possible. So we were just like well we don't we're not in the same room so however are we gonna do the technology just isn't it? Yeah yeah exactly right but eventually meanwhile you're like watching people on the news every night talking to someone yeah yeah oh dude like we're useless with computer stuff man, like for ages we were having lag, so
Starting point is 00:07:29 we thought if we sat next to our modems it would go quicker. Like, fuck out. I need to cut this cord down. We need this cord to be as short as possible. But I got to get this down the pipe. But as soon as we figured out we could just record locally. It wasn't until we did an episode with you Andrew where you told us about the software that you guys use. We were just like... Here's how
Starting point is 00:07:54 podcasting works. Yeah yeah no you really young bucks. Sean hit me up. I remember and was like hey here's an idea new metal cinema and I was like what the fuck are you talking about and just kind of remember all those movies you love yeah yeah Matrix remember Blade 2 yeah man that was only 10 years ago or five years ago it's too soon to be to reviewing the what what yeah 20 to 25 years have happened 20 to 25 years have happened oh my god when people talk about when the Matrix came out, I like, I immediately get like 40 more gray hairs. Oh man.
Starting point is 00:08:32 That's fucked up. I feel like 20 of my favorite movies came out in 1999 and I'm always just like, well that was five years ago. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And I'm getting wrong every year. I, I ran into a guy, like a couple of weeks ago, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi thi thi thi thi, thi, to to to to to to to to to to to that, to to that, when to that, when to that, when to that, when that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. Oh, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Oh, th. Oh, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi toea, toea, toea, toea, toea, toea, thiiiiiiiiiioli. Oh, thi. Oh, thi, th exactly. And I'm getting wrong every year. I ran into a guy, like a couple of weeks ago, who I have not seen in years, right? Um, solely due to him not having a Facebook account, because it's just like, how would you ever find anybody? How would I know what the fuck is happening in your life unless I'm like outside your house with a pair of binoculas? Yeah. And I didn't know where that house was, you know, so I like ran
Starting point is 00:09:07 into this guy who I had not seen, I worked it out later and I was like, I don't think I've seen this dude who was like my, one of my best friends in high school and stuff. I hadn't seen him in like 18 years thereabouts and I was like, oh damn. Oh oh that's that's long enough to make someone who's legally an adult. Yeah, yeah. Had he had a child? We both had kids with us and we had we had never seen each other's kids or anything and and all of my memories of this guy like hanging out at his house and his dad, um, his dad would like go back and forth to Hong Kong a lot, so he would bring back like a lot of like pirated DVDs. Hell yeah. All that sort of stuff. And he had like a giant rear projection TV and a big home
Starting point is 00:09:58 theater system with a subwoofer and we would watch like Rush Hour and the Matrix and shit like that. Like a cam rips of them on like VCD. I remember somebody getting a cam rip of the Phantom Menace. They were like we could watch the Phantom Menace before it comes out of the movies and they put it on and you can see like the bottom right 20% of the screen and just here every time like something happens the whole crowd stands up and goes, yay! I was like, I don't feel like I'm getting the most out of this movie. But yeah, just very, very strange to think of this guy and be like, oh, you know, the last time we were hanging out, we were watching like The Matrix a year after
Starting point is 00:10:46 it had come out at movies. Right on. Very long time ago now man. Yeah, dude. I had like a similar thing where it was like a friend who was a very young parent and kind of I hadn't seen them in maybe 15 years and they was just like a oh your kids like a well-adjusted normal person who's doing really well at school and you turned out to not be a complete like burnout teenage parent and I'm the piece of shit now fuck that's the twist then that's the twist is that like I think for people you know having kids when the younger and stuff like for a lot of people it just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just... the the the th. th. th. th. th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. Oh th. Oh th th th. Oh th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi then, that's the twist is that like, I think for people, you know, having kids when the younger and stuff, like for a lot of people it just, all of a sudden,
Starting point is 00:11:29 it forces you to have responsibility. It forces you to go, oh no, unless I stop doing all of my bullshit and look after this person. A bunch of bad stuff's going to happen. Yeah, well I mean, I mean, yeah, you that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the that's the that's that's the the the that's that's the the the the that's the that's what happens. I mean, I feel like more often than not, it doesn't work out. Like, yeah, exactly. Like, oh, I've got a kid. And I'm a teenager.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Well, fuck, not that I'm teen parents, like more power to them. They're doing what they can. Sometimes it's a cycle that just can't be broken. But, you know, I've that, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just that that, just, just, just, just, just, I've just, I've just, I've just, I've just, I've just, I've just, I've just, I just, I just, I just, I just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just that that's just that, just that, just that's just that's just that's just that's just that's just that's just that's just that's just that's just that's just that's just can't that's just can't that's just can't that's just can't that's just can't that nutted in someone we weren't supposed to nut. Yeah, and like I was a youth worker for a while so like like you know I totally I'd whatever but like heaps of teen parents I've met via being a youth worker, you know, interesting parenting choices but everyone's riding their own horse I'm not here to judge. Helicopter parenting doesn't work either. So what's the right? You're like, you're kind of. I I I I I I the kind of the kind of the kind of the kind of the kind of the kind of the kind of the kind of the kind of the. I the. I the. I was a the. I was a the. I was a the. I was a the. I was a the the the the the the the the. I was a the the the the the the the I was I was I was I was I was a the I was I was I was I was a the I was I was I was a the I was a the I was a the I was a the I was a the I was a the I was a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the here to judge. Helicopter parenting doesn't work either. So what's the right?
Starting point is 00:12:27 You're kind of destined to like fuck up your child in some way regardless of like how good your life is. What's your own neuroses and like weirdness and shit into it? Everyone's gonna grow up, get to like this age and be like, well this is all the dumb fucking shit my parents did and this is why I'm such a fucked up little weird. There's that Conan O'Brien thing where he's just like my only parenting tip is like they're gonna fucking bitch about you in therapy no matter what you do which is like yeah cool maybe that you called them too much you were too much of an asshole you were actually too much in the middle that they couldn't develop at all the the the their their their their they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they their they they they they they they they they to be they to be to be to be to be to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to be told told told told told told told told told told told told told told told told told to to to to to to to to be to to told to to to told told their their told their their told their their told to to to their to to to to to to to to told. told. told told to too much in the middle that they couldn't develop at all. Like there's no... Is it nature? Is it nurture? I don't... It's none. You're destined to be fucked up regardless of what happens. Some people make all the right choices apparent. Some
Starting point is 00:13:15 people do not give their kids all of the, I guess, information and context they need to do a lot of like critical thinking and assessment of the information context they need to do a lot of like critical thinking and assessment of the information that they've been given and we're going to find out a little more about that in this week's poll report. I'm gonna grab another cup of tea. Ah! Every time I think the Polish National Anthem is about to end it keeps going. Yeah, it's like the Fulch the King over here. There's like four false endings in there. Yeah, you're ready to come back in on your podcast and these guys. Yeah, it's like the Polish National Anthem, it's about to end it, it keeps going. Yeah, it's like the fuking to the king on your podcast and these guys. The Polish Masters of Suspense. They're busy singing about Napoleon and running people through with a sword and all this kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Incidentally, I've got the same mug as you. Oh really? You're drinking your tea out of the like Japanese home Mr. Sparkle mug. Yeah, yeah. I'm um, I'm like my parents, the that, the whole family when it's. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they. they. their. they. they. they. they. their. their. their. their. Yeah, yeah. I'm um, I'm like my parents Or not even just my whole family when it's Christmas Just for Secret Santa everyone just gets me Simpsons shit, which rocks because like I'm a fucking I'm a child of the 90s. Yeah, I like the same But am I am I correct in thinking that Lucy has a Mr. Spackle tattoo? Yeah, I do. That rocks. Oh, for real. You got a little Mr. Spackle.
Starting point is 00:15:49 She's listening to you guys talk about your mugs, your little temperance. I'm also the child in the 90s. Only 90s kids remember the Simpsons. That's such odd dude. Oh, dude, one was talking to a kid at work about The Simpsons and they were just like, that's like an old person's kind of thing. I'm just being like, fuck! God damn it! But it also would have been worse if they're like, yeah, I love like the new seasons.
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Starting point is 00:16:35 Oh, fuck you. Why would you tell me that? I saw the Simpsons once and Bart was doing video game streams and I decided that I wanted to die. God damn. I don't like how yeah like like they did one of the episodes where they were like oh remember when Homer was in his early 20s and that was the 90s and he invented grunge. I do remember that. It's like hanging out with stomach youth and stuff. Yeah. You can't do that you can't just know. The poll report. This is for you go gove poll. the contact that that. I I I I I I I I I I I I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like the the the the the the the the the the the the the th like the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I don't like. I don't like. I don't like. I don't like. I don't like. I don't like. I don't like. I don't like. I don't like. I don't like. I don't like. I don't like. I don't like. I don't like. I don't like. I don't like. I don't like. I don't like. You can't do that. You can't just... The poll report. This is
Starting point is 00:17:05 from a U.Gov poll. The contact that a nationally representative sample of 1,500 U.S. adult citizens. This has been weighted according to gender, age, race, and education, as well as 2016 presidential vote registration status, geographic region and news interest. The margin of error is approximately 3% for the overall sample. So I was skimming through this UGov poll and this one really made me go, uh, this one says, in your opinion, how likely is it that the following scenarios are true? We have that the threat of the coronavirus was exaggerated for political reasons. 40% of US adults say that that is definitely slash probably true.
Starting point is 00:17:58 People who are fully vaccinated, it's 28% and people who refuse to be vaccinated, it's 85%. Although that's a funny sort of implication, that like the idea that these people that refuse to be vaccinated are like, oh they're not exaggerating. Yeah, not a little. Yeah. I just hate needles, you know. Yuck. Then I asked if people think that the following scenario is true, that vaccines have been shown to cause autism. 18% of US adults say definitely slash probably true. 58% say definitely probably false.
Starting point is 00:18:37 25% in the middle say not sure. People who are vaccinated, oddly enough say, I think it's fine. Only 7% of people who are vaccinated think that is definitely slash probably true. I mean that's honestly good on him. They, 7% of those people believe that vaccine cause autism and they're like, yeah, give it to me. Yeah, I'll get it. Great. Have been shown. Well, I mean, you got a 3% margin error in there, you know, that's okay. This last one is what thah is thah is thah is th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, that's that's, that's, that's that's, that's that's that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. thoooooo. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's what got me, I think. That the US government is using the COVID-19 vaccine to microchip the population.
Starting point is 00:19:14 20% of US adults believe that to be true. Now, I'm not great at maths. That's one in every 100 people, right? Take your hand, take your hand and fold four of your fingers down. Yeah. That's one in every 100 people, right? Take your hand, take your hand and fold four of your fingers down. Yeah. That's one guy. Every five guys that you meet. Got one guy left. One of those guys is like, I can't have a microchip.
Starting point is 00:19:35 I can't have a microchip floating up and giving me an embolism. So like you go into a room, there's 25 people in the corner Five of those people like microchip. The five people huddled in the corner around the jukebox. Yeah. With tin foil on their head. Yeah, putting in their nickels and playing steely dads, reel it in the years over and over and over again. Yeah. Nothing wrong with that. Ain't a crime yet. We... We... We... We've done these before, right? Like, looked at different poles and stuff like that. A lot of things we've had on these shows that are like, you know, scientists say a glass of red wine, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:20:19 And something that Ben has talked about in the past from when he used to do articles for like pedestrian and stuff like that was that you would be sent press releases that say, scientists say this thing, and he would then have to take the journey of reading the press release and then going back to the person talking about it and then going back and finding the study that they're talking about and then reading through the study and finding, and finding, and finding, and finding, and finding, and finding, and finding the, and finding, and finding, and finding, the the the the, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, and, the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, their, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, like, the person talking about it, and then going back and finding the study that they're talking about and then reading through the study and finding the actual information which doesn't really suggest the thing that the headline does. One of my, like, one of the examples of sticks out is the most in my mind, which it's an irrational thing for me to be this pissed off about a website that like counted for so little, but it was one about like the the lead on the press release was Sydney's most popular coffee order and I was
Starting point is 00:21:10 like ah it's interesting how would you get that data and then I was like looking at it and like at this point we'd basically already written the headline for it before I'd written the story and I was like hmm and it was like a an't it was a like an app for ordering your coffee in advance. Yeah, yeah, I know the one you're talking. Is it skip? I don't, I have no fucking idea. But it was like, so it's like, oh, so it's sampled from people that would use this app. And based on their own reporting.
Starting point is 00:21:41 So it's not that it's not Sydney's most popular coffee order. It's like, it's this app's most popular coffee order. And then everyone was like, well that makes the headline really ugly so you should probably just go with like. Sydney's most popular coffee. Yeah, I was like, but that's not what it is. It's not a representative sample at all. That doesn't show you anything and then got into a very heated argument with everyone and how many people do you thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. that's, that's, that's, that's, thi, thi, thi, that's, that's, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well th. th. th. th. Well, well, well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's, that's that's that's that's that's like, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's that's that's that's th. th. th. th. do you think if they were ordering their coffee from it's not a delivery thing right it's the it's skip is like that I'm gonna order it and then I can just I use it here you can order it on your way to work and pick up coffee you basic bitch genius fuck the line I was reading a thing about like Netflix saying here are all of our most watched
Starting point is 00:22:25 movies. You know you can't believe in the slightest to like. They're lying to you. They say number one with a bullet 99 million people watched Chris Hemsworth in the Russo Brothers movie extraction you know and I watched it because I'll watch fucking anything and whenever you look down this list so like the top 10, it's pretty much all like Netflix originals. Yeah. Which they also push that stuff the hardest on the app. It's always at the top and it is impossible to surface like other shit.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Well I had a moment of thinking to myself like, well you know, maybe it's because maybe this is kind of like proving the point for Netflix that they, so so so they, so they, so they, they, they, they, they, they, they, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, they's, they're, they're, they're, they.. they. they. they. they. they. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, well you know, maybe it's because maybe this is kind of like proving the point for Netflix that they like they've sunk they sink all this money into making content. Maybe it's just proving the point that like on streaming services you have all of this shit that you've seen before or like stuff or like stuff from the 90s and the 2000s and everything. Maybe this is demonstrating that like people people just want content. They just want new content. They just chum bucket. And then you see the footnote down the bottom that says this is based on people having watched two minutes of the movie. So if you put on the movie and you see the
Starting point is 00:23:39 Netflix thing come up and you see one or two production company logos and then it starts to get a bit of the way through the credits and then Mark Wahlberg pops up and he goes, I'm fucking serious and you just turn it off. They're like, you watched it, you watched it, you watched it, you watched our movie, our Netflix original and you probably loved it. And they chalk up the big number, you know? I love that all of like the number, you know. The Netflix stuff for foreign markets when it gets redubbed for Western audiences and it's always like a show called Money Bank or like Danger Haste or just like these really basic titles. I like for ages didn't, people watch this shit man, like for ages didn't believe that anybody watch money heist. I remember like when I was working in an office,
Starting point is 00:24:32 in a cubicle, just getting up and seeing Joanna, lovely lady, but like she was sitting on her desk like this with her phone in her hand. Watching money hikes. Fucking no offence. with her phone in her hands. Watching money hikes. No offense to Andrew and Lucy, but people with office jobs watch literally everything. This is what happens when you don't work seven nights of the week. You go home to your house, you cook a sad little dinner, and then you watch like 10 episodes of whatever fucking garbage
Starting point is 00:25:06 Netflix is thrown up on your fucking thing. Hey I take offense to that I was watching all kinds of fucking moronic stuff way before I had an office job. Yeah I used to watch worse shit. I like work two days a week right now and I'm still just watching 10 hours of fucking rubbish I was saying to Andrew and Lucy before you recorded, but I've managed to watch all of Big Love, the Bill Paxton woman show in like a fortnight. Just literally will wake up and go, okay, well, it's 8 o'clock in the morning.
Starting point is 00:25:37 I'm a normal human being, and I will start watching Big Love right now, my. I work like five to six nights a week. So the one th I th I th I th th I th I th I th I that I th I that I that I I I I that I I I th I've th I've I've I've I've I've like five to six nights a week so the one night off that I have I'll be like I have to make this single totally perfect choice and then what ends up happening is that I get very stoned and I watch like five hours of archival footage from the 60s yeah baby the US Navy survival techniques yeah and then I'm like was that a night well spent? Yes, because if my, if I crash later to the desert, I'm fine now.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Yeah. I know what's got to be done. Yeah, absolutely. So, so we have like, you know, we look at the numbers on things like the Netflix thing and the coffee story. And as soon as soon as you you you you you you you you you you you that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's not that's not that's not that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's. that's that's. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. th. that's th. th. that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. th. th. the th. th. that's not not not the that's not not that. that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that numbers on things like the Netflix thing and the coffee story, and as soon as you actually like delve into it a bit, you go, oh, that's not really a thing, you know? No. Whereas, when I saw the headline on this story, when I saw like this particular thing
Starting point is 00:26:35 pulled out, this data point pulled out, I immediately sent it to Ben and said, we have to look into this and see if th, th......... And, the, the, the, the, the, thin, the, the, the, thi, thi, thi, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th th th th thi, thin, thi, thr, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th....... And, th. And, th. And, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's not, that's not, this is actually representative or anything and we both looked at it and we're like oh no they yeah they they talked to thousands of people and weighted their samples and everything this is like one in five people that sounds believable yeah thousands of people it reminds me of the bill gauged microtrip there's a study that came out in Australia like a couple of years ago. Like it was a similar survey of like people in Australia that agreed with like Pauling Hansen's no Muslims immigration thing where the number was like, it was somewhere between 25 and 50% like it was a massive number and then everyone was like, oh, that only surveyed 1300 people.
Starting point is 00:27:20 That's not representative. And then a bunch of people had to be like, no, the way they conduct these polls, that number is a hundred percent representative of the population. And you're like, oh, that's the most depressing fucking shit I've ever heard my entire fucking life. Huge bummer. Oh, that's the population of most small towns in Australia. Yeah, of course, the population of small towns in Australia hate Muslims. Hey, we don't all live in
Starting point is 00:27:45 Sydney and also a bunch of the people in Sydney believe that too. Oh yeah big term, yeah it's half of literally half of Western Sydney. It's like the fucking Western Bank out there man it's like it's just full on yeah anyway. So you have that kind of thing, right? You've got numbers and statistics and actually talking to people. That's not what this next segment is all about. We had a listener, Silke, who wrote in to suggest that we might get a kick out of the subreddit, retconned and boy were they right.
Starting point is 00:28:27 As soon as I started looking at this thing I was fucking delighted right. They were you told us to look at this and I was like why and then I spent five minutes on there and I was like oh this is fucked. Yes yes so Bates you know what people are normally referring to when they say red con right. Yeah like like like like like like like like like like like like like th. th. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. B. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I I th. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I. th. th. th. th. th. th. B. th. the. B. B. the. the. the. the. the. B. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the the the. I. normally referring to when they say red con, right? Yeah, like, you know, Aunt Marge is now played by some other lady or this is how Bill and Ted met at high school. They didn't meet a professor Miyagi's karate combo. I don't know. But yeah, I know what you mean.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Wolverine was, he was a product of the Weapon X experiments, not a literal Wolverine that was turned into a man by the high evolutionary as a very specific example from the Marvel Universe. Yeah, so our common understanding of this is retroactive changes to continuity. It's usually applied to long-running things like comic books. Shit for nerds, right? Yeah. So that's not what this is, right? This is a Reddit community and the description that they have offered themselves for us. It goes as
Starting point is 00:29:38 follows about the community. A public sub for those experiencing the phenomenon of the retcon effect or real-life retroactive continuity, sometimes known as the Mandela effect. R-slash retcon is a public sub for discussion of the retcon effect under the presupposition that for whatever reason it is really happening at the exclusion of explanations like, it's always been that way. You remembered it incorrectly. You were taught wrong when you were growing up. happening at the exclusion of explanations like, it's always been that way. You remembered it incorrectly. You were taught wrong when you were growing up.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Surely mapping technology has gotten better by now. Logos change over time, or even it's a very common misconception. Just because you never knew about it before, and our favorite, it's just human error. Now I do note that in this description they have referred to the Mandela effect, right? So we all know what the Mandela effect is, right? It is false memories shared by many people. Yeah. One of the most common examples of this is remembering the title of the Bear and Stain Bears, Children's Books as being spelled Berenstein, the logo of clothing fruit brand, the clothing brand Fruit of the Loom featuring a cornucopia and the existence of a 1990s movie entitled
Starting point is 00:30:58 Chazam starring comedian Sinbad as a genie. So basically like all real things. Wait what? So the explanation for this from science talking people is that that like you have a whole bunch of people independently getting this information and all sort of coming to this conclusion and then they run into somebody else and they go, I also thought there was a movie called Chazam starring Sinbad as a genie. Um, that you're not just confusing with the movie Kazam that stars Shaq? That's not a loud on retcon. Yeah, sorry, I sorry I can't. It did stars Shaq. And also apparently there was a thing in the 90s where Sinbad introduced an Ali Barber and the 40 Thieves thing dressed up as a genie. So a bunch of people are
Starting point is 00:31:56 going to have seen these things conflated them in their minds, you know. Or the fabric of reality has changed. Only you, the protagonist of reality, can remember how it really was. This is what is fascinating about this to me, right? They refer to the Mandela effect, but they're not referring to the common understanding of the Mandela effect, which is something that a whole bunch of people have collectively misremembered. Like that's what it fucking means, right? Instead, they think that the Mandela effect is a thing thiiiiiii thi thi that a a that a that a that a that a that a that a that has that has a that has that has that has a that's that's thi, that's thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. This is thi. This is thi. This is thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi. th means, right? Instead, they think that the Mandela effect is a thing that has really happened, like reality changed. They think... Yeah, they're like in some kind of matrix type situation. Yeah, so people on this subreddite think that at some point, like at the moment that they realized
Starting point is 00:32:42 they were wrong about something basically they're like oh That's when my reality shifted. Yeah, that's I've got the residue of the old reality. Yeah, yeah I came off the big train tracks someone hit the big switcher and I fell back into the lane where they spell it Bear and Sparence and pairs, you know? Here are the retconned subreddit rules of engagement. No name calling. Number one. Number one.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Number one. Number one. That's fair. Yeah. that seems fair. This one's curious to me. No downvoting. All downvotes will automatically be upvoted to zero by the mods.
Starting point is 00:33:25 I would love to see the secret downvote version of this subredd. To see the people that have been subverted that's downvoted. It's a real positive vibes only subred. No telling people they have memory problems. Hmm. No telling us. No explaining anything. Be polite and respectful of all people posting. If you disagree with them or think that their idea is absurd, you are still required to be kind to them.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Do not tell, this is all caps, do not tell anyone they are wrong about what they remember. Do not tell anyone that any theory they propose is wrong, stupid, or impossible. You may discuss alternate possibilities, but you must be nice to people. Sure. There's no gas lighting in Rett Cond. No. Do not dismiss other people's memories or experiences just because it doesn't match yours or you don't agree with it. In short, do not tell others what is and isn't a Mandela effect.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Again, they're referring to it as though it's a thing that's really happening, not a commonly accepted classification of misremembering something. So with that as the setup of here's what the Reddit's about, of here's what the Reddit's about and here's how everyone must speak to each other, that one will find in the retconned community. I was watching Star Wars this weekend when I noticed a change in Boba Fett. I was 10 years old when the original Star Wars was released. I watched numerous times in the theaters. So many times. I also watched Empire Strikes Back so many times.
Starting point is 00:35:11 I've been a huge fan of Star Wars my entire life. I was also in marching band in high school and our band uniform had braided shoulder loops. Not sure what they're called. But I remember putting them on and how they actually felt to wear. Throughout my life I've noticed any time I saw them, but mainly I saw them on military uniforms and ban uniforms. But I've never in my life seen them on Boba Fet ever. And I've watched Empire so many times in my life, it isn't even funny. It kind of is, bro. You're making it a little bit funny. But this weekend I saw them.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Here's a picture of him with them on. And at this point we have a still from the movie. That's not even from the movie. It's just a picture of a costume. Yeah, yeah, the braid. Yeah. All right. So there's a picture of Bobafet with the braid on, right? And he's freaking out of this because, well not because he hasn't noticed it before, you're not allowed to say that. No, you could not point out that like I was obsessed with the Star Wars visual dictionaries when I was a kid and that that was like, hey, this is a wookie braid. Yeah, that's dope. Dude, was it the DK ones?
Starting point is 00:36:35 Yeah, man. Yeah, absolutely. I'm literally, there's one one right over there. It's like a mineral there for me. It rocks so much. He follows this up with, but here is a picture where they're not visible. And he posts a picture in which Boverfeet is holding up his gun and completely obscuring that part of his body. Sure. He says it might be behind the gun.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Yeah, it's behind the gun. It's got a feeling it's behind the gun man. I've got a feeling it's behind the gun. And also it depends like I think he was wearing a different outfit in return of the Jedi so are they because does he have a cape in return of the Jedi? I he's got a Oh this image he doesn't have the cape. He doesn't have cape but I think that's pretty unlikely I think it's more likely the reality changed. Yeah Yeah it's right that's how you know reality is the the the the the reality the reality the reality the reality the reality the reality the reality the reality the reality th the reality the reality th th th th th th th th the reality is th th th th th th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi thi the. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. It's th. It's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It's th is th. It's the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. It's the the the. It's the the the the the the the the the the the. the the. the the. the. the. the. the. th a Mandela in fact. That's how you know reality is not real. I like like the first thread I found on Rek Condors. Hey guys, I'm new here.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Mental health questions. Oh, no, I saw that today. I was just like, oh, this is another. Don't ask about that, bro. That's a ban. What are the replies in the Star Wars thing? So this guy says, this is a brand new thing for me. It's easy to say you just never noticed them before. Yes it is. But you don't know me. You don't know how my mind works. Nor the little things I notice all the time. their thii. No the little little little little little little little little little little little little little things things things things things things things things things things the little little little little little little things things things things things things things things things things. the little things. the little things. the little things. the little things. the little things. the little things. the little. the little. the little. the little. their. their. the little things. their. their. their. their. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. the little the little things. the little things. the little things. the little things. the little things. the little things. the little things. the little little little little little little. the little. the little. the little. the little. the little. the little. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the all the time. You have no idea how many times I've watched Star Wars Empire
Starting point is 00:38:05 nor how many ways these movies have been a part of my life. I don't know man you sound like a fake fan to me that's what I've been in comments. If you just simply reference Lucy's three-quarter sleeve tattoo of Bob a Fet you would not. It's a fifth. To answer your question now,, the very first reply on every post in the retconned subreddit is an auto moderator post that says, due to overuse, the phrase, just because you never heard of something doesn't mean it's a Mandela effect or similar is not welcome here and is a violation of rule number nine. Continued arguing and push for this narrative without consideration of our community will get you banned. Someone else says, okay, those are new to me as well.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Never seen them before, to which O.P. says, cool. Thanks for letting me know. This is followed by a post that has been removed by the moderator. Uh, that post said, he definitely always had that wookie braid. The moderator says post removed. Please review our sub description and rules before posting again. We treat the subject differently here and the phrase always been that way is not received well. So what can you reply if you disagree you have to agree? You're a fourth of the biggest reality. Oh that's weird. Well people people reply with stuff and say like okay. Oh I have the Star Wars visual
Starting point is 00:39:41 visual dictionary which I always looked at and it says that it's a wookie braid, and he had it and everything, and I bought this dictionary in 1992, and he says, and he'll say something like, oh well I saw the movie in the 70s, so I guess the 90s must have been when reality shifted and everybody started to see this different thing. And everyone goes, wow, interesting. That's right. Ryan clad. J. 1111 replies, I totally know the feeling of standing up and screaming, what the
Starting point is 00:40:13 fuck is this at the TV? It wasn't Star Wars, but it was a pen and teller fool us when Louis Anderson popped out from behind a red curtain, very much alive. That man's show, Life with Louis, ended when he abruptly died from a heart attack in 1997. The series finished out posthumously with his remaining episodes, but it ultimately ended in 1998 after the writers decided Louis was irreplaceable and it was his show. After Googling Louis after seeing him on Penantel show, I found out he's been
Starting point is 00:40:43 on Baskets since 2016. Ironically, 2016 is when I was first Mandela effected, so I guess Louis POPped back into existence in 2016 for me? Yeah, dude. Just for the record, comedian Louis Anderson has never been dead. He has been working literally the entire time. He has been in a show or movie every year since the year this person thinks thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi this thi thi this person thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to thi to toe toe toe thi thi toe thi thi thi thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I working literally the entire time. He has been in a show or movie every year since the year this person thinks that he died. Every year from 1998 onwards he has been in a TV show or a movie. And then everybody goes, yeah, you're right. Hearing about
Starting point is 00:41:21 him dying in the 90s means that he really died in the 90s and the explanation must be something else and not it being much easier to just receive non-verified information in 1997. I think that makes more sense that reality is shifted. Once again, I like, I got him for cameo, you know that cameo thingy? That were your highest celebrities to read a memo. I did it for a friend for his 30th, so if Louis Anderson has been dead this whole time, who have I given money to? That's creepy, man. It's just, it's, it's so cool to me that they have created this whole community that just says you are only allowed to agree with people.
Starting point is 00:42:08 You're not allowed to say- It's so good. It's not allowed to say, like if you Google Louis Anderson or Louis Anderson dead. It just says, hey, there were a lot of hoaxes about him being dead in the 90s, but he's not he's fine Look at him here he is you go on to IMDB and it's just a never-ending list of credits And then all the credits rearrange into some dead language that has never been spoken And the curse of the lifts reality gets shifted back to what it was like
Starting point is 00:42:40 It's the most wholesome some reddit where you can just log on, it'd be like, um, I don't think I've ever heard of the Kia Serrento before. And then like 50 people be like, dude, it must have never existed. I bet it, because that's all they're allowed to say. To the exact moment. It's like the, like the confirmation bias thing of like, of like, we bought, we like however many years ago we bought a Ford Cougar and then I was like, boy I'm seeing a lot of Ford Cougars around. Totally. It's like I see a lot of May U Falcons on the road. Yeah, tunne of them out there. Just didn't know they existed before so that's probably it. Here's one that Lucy liked. When did green onions become chives? This is a prime example of like, it has a very simple explanation
Starting point is 00:43:28 and it's that some people call green onions chives, but go on. Hit us with this one, Lucy. Give us this pose. Oh, OK, this one has been bothering me for some time. Remember those thick, dark green, delicious garnishings you used to chop up and put on baked potatoes with sour cream? You know with the unmistakable chive flavor? Well apparently now people are just cutting up green onions calling this green onion cousin a
Starting point is 00:43:55 chive and acting as if chives never existed before. Some people just call things different things. They're just called, they're like different, and they're all very similar, like a green onion and chive, very similar things. I'm sorry, the the the the the the the the the, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, the, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you, you, you, you know, the, the, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you the, you the, you the, you the, you the, you the, you, you, you the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, things different things. They're like different and they're all very similar, like a green onion and chive, very similar things. I'm sorry, but I know what a green onion is, as the garnish is used heavily in this area due to Asian influence. These things people are calling chives are green onions are green onions, are green onions, the green onions, are green onions on the baked potato instead of chives.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Imagine that being the thing that made you think a place was low class? What's the fucking high class place you're eating it that's got baked potatoes? I'm here, I'm here in a Michelin starred restaurant ordering a baked potato. I'm sorry, it is green onion. This better be the best sour cream of my fucking life. I paid $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $. Oh. Oh. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the? I tho? I thi. I tho? I tho. I tho. Imagine tho. Imagine thi thi thi th. Imagine th. Imagine th. Imagine th. Imagine th. Imagine. Imagine th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thed thed thed the the the the the the the the theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeea thoan. Imagine thee? It's better be the best sour cream of my fucking life. I paid $70 for this. Which farm did the pork come from for these bacon bits? Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Little did I know that it has always been done this way. People are calling green onions chives now. It's so fucking cool that people get... It's so cool that people get slightly confused and act like they're in dark city. Yeah, sure. Where am I? Oh, every night when I go to sleep reality just changes around and locks back into place. Just like instead of chives, there's a slightly larger green sliced thing on your potato, you're like, well, while I was asleep, literally all of reality has changed.
Starting point is 00:45:35 There's no other way to understand what I'm experiencing right now. Chives, like, it's like shallots and onions, right? It's just like the same shit, but just not. I'd always thought chives were just the chives were just the chives were just the chives were just the chives were just the chives were just the chives were just the chives were just the chives were just the chives were just the chives were just the chives were just the chives were just the chives were just the chives were just the chives were just the chives were just the chives the chives theirves their chives their chives their chives their chives. Chives. Chives. Chives. Chives. Chives. Chives. Chives. Chives. Chives. Chives. Chives. Chives. Chives. Chives. Chives. Chives. Chives. Chives. Chives. Chives. Chives. Chives. Chives. the chives. Chives. the chives. the chives. Chives. the chives. Chives. the chives. Chives. Chives. Chives. Chives. Chives. Chives, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, their chives, like, like, like, their chives, like, their chives It's just like they're the same shit, but just not. I'd always thought chives were just like the shoots of onions. Chives are very small. I could, yeah, chives are smaller in diameter. Certainly. I came across this in America.
Starting point is 00:45:55 What they call green onions, I think I would call chives. Like the little circular green stuff you would put on as a garnish. Sure. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's the little. That's the little the little the little the little thive. That's the little thive. That's the little the little thive. the little thive. Cive. Cive. Cive. Cive. Cive. Cive. Cive is the little chive is the little chives. Chive is the little chives. Chive is the little chives. Chive is the little chives. Chive is the little chives. Chive. Chive. Chive. Chive. Chive. Chive. Chive. Chive. Chive. Chive. Chive. Chive. Chive. Chive. Ch. Ch. Ch. Ch. Ch. Ch. Ch. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. I's. C. C. Chives. Chives. Chives. Chives. Chives. Chives. Chives. Chives. Chives. Chives. Chives. Chives. Chives. Chives. Chive. Sure. That's a chive, right? You know, I'd call it a chive, but maybe they're slightly different, you know. Fuck me. Well I guess that's the other thing that I love is like the complete, the complete sort of disregard for the idea that things are called different things in different regions, like, and not even being like, oh I went to Malaysia and they called this a chive. It th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi, thi, that, that, that, that, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the the the the the the the the the the the theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee the thu, I went to Malaysia and they called this a chive. It's like in America you could just go two states over and have them be like no this is chili, chili has cinnamon in it and milk you know. Oh so chives. Yeah, but they're a relative of like what we would maybe call.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Yeah, apparently they're different but they're relatively interchangeable. What some might call scallions maybe or like green onions or shallots depending on where you are. Yeah, but they're all pretty much the same thing. Instead of Googling this and confronting this idea, I think I'll go to my favorite subreddit and do a post where everybody is forced by the moderators to agree with me. To tell me that I am the world's smartest genius. I'm basically the neo of this universe because I know that chives used to be smaller.
Starting point is 00:47:10 This is like a wholesome version of targeted individuals where instead of agreeing that you're being followed by the government, it's just agreeing that onions have changed. Yeah, you're right. Chives did used to be different. the government th. th. th. th, th, th, thi, th, thi, thi, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. the, the, the, the, the, the, th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th, th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. Chives did used to be different in the 70s. I don't know you and I don't know shit about you but I do know that you've shifted through dimensions permanently. So this one, this one kills us when we found it. This is from a user Taya 20. Parmesan cheese. So I guess if we're being generous here and we know this is an American person, they might be saying Parmesan and Parmesan.
Starting point is 00:47:53 Yes. So the first Parmesan in this is spelled the way you would expect. and the second is P-A-R-M-A-S-E-A-N. and the second is P-A-R-M-A-S-E-A-N. The Irish spelling of S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-P. The the-P. The the-P. The the way you would expect P-A-R-M-E-S-A-N and the second is P-A-R-M-A-S-E-A-N. The Irish spelling of Sean, which I'm really, the proper spelling of Sean. To this person says, Currently, Parmesan is the correct spelling, but it hasn't always been the case for me. For most of my life, I've been in the Parmesan dimension, but one fateful day I ended up in Parmashorn land.
Starting point is 00:48:30 I can't not read it as Parmashon. That's the only way I'll be reading. But it's Parmashon is the funniest interpretation. It's Parmashon to me, you know. I remember the day vividly, March 2019. I was dog sitting for a family friend and got home from the morning walk around 10 a.m. Check the mail and got some bad news about my credit. I was struggling a bit of the time and I was worried this new development would hinder my plans
Starting point is 00:48:58 to move in with my long-distance girlfriend. It was real by the way. Moving all the way to Canada. Two states over you wouldn't know about her. Before getting ready for work I browsed Reddit for a bit. Oh you browse Reddit a lot and you have a long distance girlfriend. The perfect life. Specifically this very subreddit. I saw a post detailing the spelling changes of Parmesan cheese. It had changed to Parmashon.
Starting point is 00:49:32 In Credulous, I checked the cheese container in the fridge. It read, Parmesan. I desperately need to know if it's a container that someone wrote, Palmer Sean, or if it was like a brand, you know. A few months later, I had cleared up my financial issues and moved in with the girlfriend who continues to be real. This is where I had noticed that I had shifted back. I had been a heavy smoker for years.
Starting point is 00:50:01 The girlfriend hated it and was very upfront about it. I came home one day and announced I was quitting but but she didn't seem to care too much. I thought that to be beyond weird, but it jogged my Parmashorn memory. I checked the spelling and it had returned to Parmesan. I have stayed in this dimension ever since. Sure. It sounds like he's got a pretty firm grip. Oh no, right.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Definitely the fact that this is all triggered by like, stress that he was experiencing ships. Okay, okay, so you're saying that clearly Mr. Parmashon has a firm grip and that's, that's cool. Let's just see if he's got any other information in his post. Growing up I wasn't spiritual or anything I was terrified of the paramormal and occult and all that. I do note I do know that as he talks over and over about Parmashon that he has typos all over the place in his own post? He spelled Palmas and Rog multiple times and so even without the place in his own post? He spelled parmesan wrong multiple times inside. Even without the parmesan. What if he wrote paramedicone on the container in the fridge?
Starting point is 00:51:11 He was just looking at his own handwriting like, whoa, really. Good enough for me. Terrified of the paramormal. 2016 I had an intense spiritual awakening and nowadays my mind is wide open. I coped by developing a bit of a power fantasy around gained spiritual powers. Sort of like Ang in Avatar. Oh, crap. I've had three NDEs in my life, near-death experiences. Of course. One of which actually occurred in
Starting point is 00:51:47 the Parmeshon dimension. Oh. My girlfriend and I were driving to the grocery store, she's real. When a Jeep ran a red light, I was in the passenger seat and it should have plowed into me, but all I remember is looking at a reflection of the Jeep in the Review mirror thinking, if any of that spiritual power is real, stop that car, and then it did...... the. I. Anyway. Anyway. Anyway. Anyway. Anyway. Anyway. Anyway. I. Anyway. I. I. I. Anyway. I. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th. I th. th. I th. I th. I th. I the the th. I the th. I th. I the the the th. I th. I the the th. I the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the th. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I the th. I the. I te. I tean. N. N. N. N. N. N. N. N. N. N. N. N. N. N. N. N. N. N. N. N. N. N. N. N. N. N. N. E. N. N. I t. at a reflection of the Jeep in the Review Mirror thinking, if any of that spiritual power is real, stop that car. And then it did. Anyway, not sure what compelled me to post this today, guess I just need to finally move past it. Too long didn't read, woke up one day and Palmas and Cheese was spelled like Parmesan.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Had a near death experience later that year and noticed it reverted back. Anyone else remember that postal spelling? He reverted back to the Parmeson dimension when he had a near-death experience. No, I think he reverted back to the Parmesan dimension. I think that the near-death experience shunted him back. He got the powers of... Maybe Lucy's is a Parmesan dimension. Maybe I have. The character from Avatar-Zin. Whating about Parmison? What the fucking thin? You mean Parmashord? I immediately started Googling trying to figure out if anybody spells it. The one of their short.
Starting point is 00:52:58 My thought was maybe that it's just one of those things, so sometimes it's like transliterated weird. And then every time I did it would be a listing on like Amazon or whatever, but on the actual product itself, it would be spelt normally. Exactly, exactly. The only thing I felt, the only thing I found was like- The only thing you sensed in the Parmashon dimension. I was waving my hands around my computer, try to get any signals from the Parmashon dimension. I turned my TV on it was just static, hands up,
Starting point is 00:53:25 you know. And the only thing I found was like dozens and dozens of recipes for like chicken parmesan submitted to websites by a guy called Sean. Just so they were all, I was like what the fuck there's a chicken parmeshorn on Epicurius and you go and look and it's just like submitted by some dip shit. All of that and then the only products that you could find would say like Parmesan cheese and you go and look and then it has a picture of the packaging that says parmesan on it and it's very clear that whoever was doing the data entry fucked up. Let's see what we have in the replies here.
Starting point is 00:54:13 This person says, it used to be parmigan for me. It did. It never was. You spelled Parmesan wrong. Because they say parmesan. It says, it did. It never was. You spelled parmesan wrong because they say parmesan. This person wrote parmesan with a G. Used to be parmigam. You just can't, you've never been spelling it right. That's what your problem is? It's because they say parmesan in America. That makes sense. You just spelled it wrong. Were they trying to do like, um, were they trying to do like the Italian Parmigiano type thing?
Starting point is 00:54:56 But they've in their brain, they've mushed that and parmesan together. They said, Parmesan. I just that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I just that, I just that, I just that, I just that, I just just just that, I just just that, I just just that, I just that, I just that, I just that, I just that I just that that that that that that that, I just that that that that that that that that that that that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that that, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the the the the the th, the the th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. they they they're they're they're they're thee. they're they I love, I just love that it's like, it used to be this for me and and then at some point I saw enough packaging that my brain said, that can't be it. I just love it boils down to, have you guys noticed that something's changed? Oh no, I've misremembered. Yeah, that's it. It is 100%. What a beautiful community. Some real like eternal sunshine of the spotless mind shit to just be like I will be blissfully happy if I don't remember when I was wrong. Ben should we dip in to ye old mail bag and see what has been sent in to the hotline.
Starting point is 00:55:46 I would love to. I just want to read out this one last example I've got here from the retconned because I think this really speaks volumes about what's happening here. So this is from the user standing underscore on underscore my underscore neck. Wonderful song from the band Splendora. The Arctic Circle is hot. I've seen some headlines recently about the Arctic Circle getting into triple digits. Since weather has it been warm enough in that area of the planet to go without a jacket, never mind about a heat stroke. Yeah. Well, best not to dive into
Starting point is 00:56:21 the details. I've got some real bad news for your pal. Shit's kind of fucked. Yeah. And there'sto dive into the details. I've got some real bad news for your pal. The shit's getting kind of fucked. Yeah. And there's lots of replies in there of people being like, oh yeah, but also climate change. Climate change happened.
Starting point is 00:56:37 We're just in the Parmashon dimension. So once we go, once we revert back, everything's gonna be all good. It'll all be fine. It'll all be fine. I. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I I I. Yeah. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the there's. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I. I. I. I. I. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. the. I'm. the. I'm. the. the. I'm. I'm. the. I'm. I'm. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the 'll click back it'll all be fine it'll all be fine I I'm sure I've I've done that on this show before something where you're like huh somebody told me in 2002 that that person died and I can see now that that is not the case well I've had tons of those moments just been like oh that wasn't true at all someone told me that when I was 14 th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho tho th tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho' tho' tho' tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- tho-n' tho-n' tho-n' thi th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the tho' the tho' the to to toe toe toeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee too' too' toe toe tho' tho' tho' tho' that is not the case. I've had tons of those moments just being like, oh that wasn't true at all. Someone told me that when I was 14 years old and they were full of shit. But here's the thing, what I generally do is I type that into my computer and immediately I'm like just swamped. You accept the new information. Deluge with information saying, no no. Louis Anderson didn't die. He is here.
Starting point is 00:57:25 You can contact him and have him say a message for money. For 50 bucks, he'll say, happy birthday card. And instead of say, I just, it's a powerful brain that can see that and go, oh, actually he's been dead for years. It's me that's clicked into another dimension where Louis Edison never died of a heart attack in 1997, causing his show life with Louis to go off the air. I blinked too hard and now I'm in the Parmeshawn dimension. All right. It's time to see what has been sent into the hotline. send us an email. Mailback at Bultivista.com, maybe DM us on Twitter. You could even message
Starting point is 00:58:29 Facebook, but we don't really check the Facebook, yeah. 8003175-5 that's the Bontavista hotline. 1,8003175 that's the Bontav one five, that's the Buntavista Hotline. That's the Wunter Vista Hotline. Ben, what have we got? Oh, I'm reading this one, okay. You put it in there. This is an email from Liston Matt, which I found absolutely fucking fascinating.
Starting point is 00:59:04 And it reads as follows hello bunties every every every plural sounds like like it's not good I mean I appreciate you trying but yeah it's not work sounds like a hate word dude yeah that's like a 1950 slur for I don't even want to try and guess what it might have been. I'd like to present a small selection of miniature nature corners. Nature cornitos, if you will, I'd love that. From my time volunteering at redacted wildlife park on work experience in my teens
Starting point is 00:59:36 during the late Nauties. Number one, not animal related, starting strong, but the owner's son used to pick me up from my youth hostel in his sporty jeep and pump, the the the the the the the the their their, th, th, th, th. I th. I th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, the, the, the, the, the, I, I, I' to, I'd, starting strong, but the owner's son used to pick me up from my youth hostel in his sporty Jeep and pump a single album the whole time, Black Sunday by Cypress Hill. Fuck yes! It ruled that he was the coolest guy on earth to me. That album fucking whips so hard. What a strong opener on that album. I want to get high?
Starting point is 00:59:59 Track number one. Beautiful fucking song. Number two, the akinners were covered in ticks. Every day we would flip the echidners, a delicate art, the film relied on surprise and finesse, and exposed their weird underbellies, which invariably housed several horrible ticks. If you missed one, the next day it would be the size of a five cent piece. Jesus Christ. Oh, because the echidna is on a five cent piece piece piece piece piece piece piece piece piece piece piece piece piece piece piece piece piece piece a five cent piece. Ironic. Jesus Christ. Oh, because the echidnas on a five cent piece.
Starting point is 01:00:25 The echidnas on a five cent piece, that's right. I get it. We had to put the ticks in a tube of toxic pace to kill them because otherwise they don't die. Hell! Oh, God. OK. the to the way of my rake so I would scratch
Starting point is 01:00:45 her back with it. If I sat down, she would climb all over me. Oh. The Northern Hairy-nose wombat, on the other hand, was aggressive to the point of being malicious. The more experienced staff would have to trick it into its fiberglass burrow where they would close it behind a steel gate, on their steel gate, while I raked the enclosure, it would stare at me and try to grind through said steel gate with its rodentine incisors. There was a decent groove in the metal where it did this. Damn, maybe that's the wombat that deserves to get it by a car, you know? Oh, I don't know. No, sorry, I'm just, look, honestly, at this point in my life, the vast majority of my encounters with wombats the them comically on their back with all four paws up in the air. Oh that's the only one but I've ever seen outside of a zoo that all of them
Starting point is 01:01:32 have been dead by the side of right. They're like Australia's hippos where you think they're gonna be a nice cute friendly animal but they're in fact a killing machine that wants to destroy anything and they want to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their to their their their to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their tho. I I tho. I's thooooooooooooooooooooooooom. Ie. I's the. I's thea. I's their their their their their to destroy anything and it's like that one to squash you to death with their ass inside its burrow, is my understanding. Yeah, horrible beasts. Number four, if during a saltwater crocodile feeding show the presenter is attacked, you should rush in and stick a broom handle in the animals face several times. It will let go and bite the broom handle if, alternativelyly, the presenter is attacked during a freshwater crocodile feeding show, the above method will cause the edible to bite down harder and roll violently, likely severing the trapped body part. Instead, you should jump on the crocodile's back and stick the broom under its neck
Starting point is 01:02:18 before grouping the handle on either side of its head in a configuration akin to what is known in wrestling as a master lock. Beautiful. I know this because I, a fat teenager, was made to spot for both of the above feeding shows and given this information immediately before the presenter, the Cypress Hill Jeep Sun entered the enclosure. I may be mixing the species and methods up, gentle bunties. No! Do not spot for a crocodile feeding show based on this information? Okay, let's try and figure this out. Yeah. Oh, you want to make a nemonic? Yeah, if the water is fresh, face poking is the best. Horrible rhyme, but go on.
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Starting point is 01:03:13 Uh, must a look. Must a look. With all your heart. There we go. that's beautiful. There you go. And unless Matt has gotten it wrong, remember that for the rest of your life. Hey, 50-50 chance. That sounds right. We don't have Theo here to double check the math, so no way of knowing. Number five,
Starting point is 01:03:39 the wedge-tailed eagle despised blonde women and would absolutely hammer into the wire of its huge avary whenever one walked past. Broads am I right? Now I think according to the wedgedailed eagle yes. I think Matt's being ironically sexist here so please do not cancel Matt who so far arguably one of the more entertaining letters we've ever received. Yeah loving it and written very sexist by the way we are very sexist hate women. No that that's us that's that's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the that's the that's that's that's the that's that's that's that. th. th. that's that's that. th. to to th. th. th. th. th. th. their their their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. the. the. the. te. teat. teat. teat. tea. tea. tea. tea. thea. the. the. thory women as well. By the way, we are very sexist. Hate women. No, that's us. We can't attribute that to Matt though.
Starting point is 01:04:08 No, we can't put that on here. We are. That's just us. Yeah. I was taught this behavior from the Eagles, the bones. I learned it from watching you. Yeah. Number six, male koalers are big rotten piss smelling demons with empty red myopic eyes. I was constantly pushing them away from my feet with anything at hand as they zombie-like
Starting point is 01:04:31 tried to climb me. Hmm. Yeah, that seems fair. Anyway, what did you all do for work experience in year 10? Or is that only a Victorian thing with love from Matt? I did not do any kind of work experience at all because I don't think Harvey Bay had enough jobs going around for anyone to do work experience because of our very, very low employment rate. But you, Al, do you do work experience?
Starting point is 01:04:52 Yeah, I looked in a guitar shop for like a week. Seek. Prime music. I fucking hated it. They made me go to get the coffees and I would just like I was a fucking shithead so like you know I fucking hocked Luke is into those fucking like I think when I realized I wasn't going to get a job out of it I was like losers this is what you get which everyone is realizing immediately in doing work experience totally did you do work experience did you do work experience did you do work experience I did. Did you do work experience? Did you do work experience? I did. I did it. I was trying to think of what I did. I did it. I was trying to think of what I did. I did it at
Starting point is 01:05:34 I did it. I did it at the disease pharmacy. Small town. There was like nothing in my interest to do. So it was just like, I'll just just yep. Did they let you try any of the pills you wanted? No I just had to like stick labels on the pill packets I should have stolen the heaps of them. You know how did you want to do what was good there? Yeah you would have been so popular if you just like walked out with like 20 Xanax yeah yeah no to theynce. Yeah. to to the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to to to their to to to to their their to to to like to like to like to like to like to like to like to like to like to like to like to like to like to like to like to like to like to like to like to like to like to to to to their. their. their. their. I I I I I I I I I I I I their. I their. I their. I their. I their their. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I the. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I the. I'm. Yeah. Yeah. I'm. Yeah. I'm. Yeah. Yeah. I the. I the. No one was doing that shit there. I would have taken any pill anyone gave me, idiot Ted. Being like, hey, I think this is like a bono pill? I'd be like, great. Let's go. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:06:16 You have this for your fits? Sweet, I'll try that. Oh, now I can't get off the floor cool. I am. It's doing. I always liked cooking. And so I did work experience as a chef. Yeah. Awesome. So like in a in a sort of in a hotel in Canberra and it sucked very bad because they were just like you should should, like, peel these 10 million potatoes and just, you know, do all the shitty stuff. Almost like work experience is just some kind of free labor bullshit. Yeah, it sure is.
Starting point is 01:06:57 And the things I remember were one of the chefs being like, this is how you julienne something, right? Now julienne these beans or whatever the fuck. I've never heard of a julienne bean in my entire life. Yeah, and me going, okay, I'll give that a go and then like, oddly enough, not having, say, the knife work of an experienced chef in a professional restaurant and having a go of that. And then him coming back after a bit and being like you fucking call this julienne? This is fucking bullshit. It's pathetic. And I was like okay. You ribbon to these beans. They're not julienne at all. You showed me. So yeah just generally all the dog shit jobs and
Starting point is 01:07:42 then one of the jobs was to just like grate Many many kilos of cheese for putting on pizzas and while I was Grading one of these many kilos of cheese. I got my hand on the grater and I took a big chunk of my skin off and I couldn't find the skin in the cheese Oh, dude that rocks And I just put that cheese on the skin in the cheese. Oh, dude that rocks. And I just put that cheese on the pizza. No, no. Yes, someone's eating your thumb. I was like, someone's, someone's getting an extra chewy piece of cheese tonight.
Starting point is 01:08:17 That's so nasty. Yep. No one was like, why is your hand bleeding? Maybe stop working with the cheese. Oh, God, no. And I tell you what th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th I th I th I th I th I tho I tho I tho I tho I tho I tho I tho. I tho. I tho. I tho. I tho I just tho. I just thu. I just tho. I just that I just put that I just put that I just put that I just that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I tho. I'd tho. I'd tho. I'd tho. I'd tho. I tell you tell you tell you tell you tho. I just told tho. I just tho. I just tho. I just tho. I just tho. I just tho. I just th the cheese you know I tell you what though it was educational in the sense that I came out of that and I said fuck being a chef yeah dude and I think that that was probably the right choice because at this point you know I still I really enjoy cooking and part of what I like about cooking is like sitting down with people and having them meal with them and like, yeah, and seeing them go, ooh, this is really good and talking
Starting point is 01:08:49 about it and having a nice little experience together. Whereas like seeing what it's like working at a chef is that you just, you just work away at stuff and you just push it out of a little hole in the side of the kitchen and you don't see shit. You just do your thing and thing and thing thing thing thing thing thing thing and thing th thing and th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. And their. And their. And their. And their. And their, their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi. And thi. thin, the. the. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. Yeah, they. Yeah, they. Yeah, they. Yeah, their their their their of the kitchen and you don't see shit, you don't hear shit, you just do your thing and then you fuck off at the end of it, you know. Yeah, then you sleep all day and not before getting incredibly drunk between 11 to 2 a.m. Yeah. Yeah. And you're also doing these like weird split shifts where you've done the morning shift and you're doing the night shift so you've gotten drunk between those two and then also afterwards.
Starting point is 01:09:32 I worked in kitchens for ages it is demoralizing work and kind of same as you Andrew was like I love cooking I could do this as a job and then like just realizing like you know that maybe I got lucky with the first couple of places I worked at because they were owned by mates or whatever but then like you go work somewhere else and it's just towel upsetting. It really seems to me like and I don't know if this is sort of changing at this point by all indications it's not but it seems to me like one of the workplaces with the most ingrained case of well I was of, well, I was bullied really hard when I was coming up and now it's my term. Totally.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Like, it's part of the culture of professional kitchens to be like, no, you have to just fucking try to absolutely destroy the will of everybody underneath you. Yeah. Which you know, I don't think is a super great work environment? No. No. That's why everyone should get a job podcasting. That's right. The only true profession. Yeah, that's right. Just talk to your friends.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Speaking of podcast, Al, where can people listen to yours? Oh, I think on the iTunes app on Spotify, we were doing other services, but I think it's now just the big ones Apple podcasts. I think we had Stitcher for a bit, but I don't know. Hey, it might still be on there. It might still be there. Oh, because we, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:01 We could be on there. Yeah, genuinely don't know. So yeah, I mean, most places that you get them, the Gooden's. Your mom and pop podcasting stores. But no, Apple Podcasts and Spotify. I'm a big Apple head so you can catch me using the Apple's podcast, whilst Sean loves Spotify, and he just gets it on in his Spotify. Hey shout out to a friend of the show official Apple Ambassador Phoebe Paradise. Yeah I know right yeah
Starting point is 01:11:36 how fucking wild is that? Yeah our executive producer Phoebe she is like the fucking the true brains behind the podcast and is the one who, like her and Sean, just a fucking power duo man. She's a part of Australia's campaign for Apple and that has a featured artist. It's fucking amazing. She's, she's crazy. She's so good. And she didn't tell us for whole time. So, because she, she had to sign an NDA about it. So like, yeah, she was just going through all of these things and we were just like, oh no, she must be so stressed out right now and then to have the Apple stuff going on
Starting point is 01:12:22 and just not being able to tell anybody. Like, she's the best. Yeah, rocking. Unbelievable admiration for that woman. She's a insanely talented artist. I know. She's the best. Check out the art of Brisbane's Phoebe Paradise. It was uniquely chronicling the character of this wonderful city. Very, very, very, very, very talented artist. Yeah, fucking dope. I think we want to get a, try to get a shirt designed the shirt a the shirt a the shirt a shirt a shirt a shirt a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th tho to tho tho tho the to the thea thea the of thir thea. Yeah thea. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. th. th. Yeah. th. th. the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. the thea. theaented artist. Yeah, it's fucking dope. I think we're gonna get a try to get a shirt designed by her I think. Yeah, I was gonna say I'm bloody, I'm fangin for a Phoebe Paradise shirt which you can find at Phoebe Paradise.com. Yeah and you can find us on like the internet, on the internet. Find us online. Please just Google take a look around a podcast.
Starting point is 01:13:09 That's right. Google take a look around podcast and you will find everything that you need. Yeah, exactly. That's pretty much it. At take a look around pod on every social media. Beautiful. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for having me. Beautiful. We love to see it. Al thank you so much for joining us. We're all... Thank you for having me. Oh. It's a long-time listener first-time caller it's very, it's a very full-circley deal. I'm very much like, oh wow, this is nice. You're like, hey I know these guys. Yeah, no, I've heard these guys before. Oh, dude, and like when you and Ben were like, yeah, they're like, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th-t-tha, th-t-t-tha th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. Thank, th. Thank you're thi, thi, that-a. Thank you that-a. Thank you to to to to to tha. Thank tha. Thank you tha. Thank you tha. Thank you tha. Thank you tha, tha, hey I know these guys. Yeah, no, I've heard these guys before.
Starting point is 01:13:45 Oh, dude, like when you and Ben were like, yeah, we'll come and do your podcast, I was like, oh my god, this is the big leagues guys. We got to look, we've got to look like fuckwits right than ours. It's true. Your podcast is much better prepared than ours. It's true. Well, that's it's it's the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their their their th. th. th. their th. th. th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.. Yeah.............................. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. ours. It's true. Well, that's it for us. Check out. Take a look around on all of the places where you find your podcast probably. Check out Phoebe Paradise.com. I'm at Twitter at Akapuco, underscore, golf, underscore, sorry. Gulf. Yeah, absolutely. Unpucco Golf. I, unfortunately after having an account for 11 years got banned. under school golf sorry kick off yeah absolutely go golf I Unfortunately after having an account for 11 years got banned by Tweeting death threats at the state of origin last year Who are you threatening to kill I had? Was it got gold? I had a sizable amount of money on what I thought was a sure thing and? I was in a rage? I had like a? Was it going to rage? I? I had a sizable amount of money on what I thought was a sure thing and
Starting point is 01:14:48 was in a rage but sure look that happens to all yeah yeah but now you can find me at Akapuco Golf so beautiful God bless all of you perverts lovely thank you so much Al. And we will see everybody else next week or maybe on the next episode if you're a bloody Patreon subscriber and you like to get some little midweek treaties, you know? Jesus Christ, calm down. Whenever we put them out, I don't know anymore. Ben knows. Thursdays and Sundays, mostly unless I'm sleepy on Thursday and then it's Friday and Sunday.
Starting point is 01:15:26 And unless I'm busy on Sunday and then it's Friday and Saturday. You never know. You just never know with us. Keep you on your toes. You know, you're bloody toes. You know, you're bloody want to. I've got shit going on all right. Don't fucking pressure me. That's right. Shop. that. Bye! Bye.

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